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EP01 Finding Your Oasis: The Journey of David Taylor

• David A Lennon • Season 1 • Episode 1

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In this chat, David Taylor shares his multifaceted journey as a musician, entrepreneur, and community leader. From launching his craft beer brand, Oasis Brewing, stemming from his last MBA assignment, to navigating the challenges of the beer industry, David discusses his passion for music and community engagement. He reflects on the impact of COVID-19 on his music career, his advocacy for mental health, and his experience running for local council. The conversation highlights the importance of connection, support, and the joy of enjoying a beer with friends. 

Follow David - @davidtaylormusic and @oasisbrewingofficial, and check out https://oasisbrewing.com.au


Chapters

00:00
Introduction to David Taylor

02:26
The Birth of Oasis Brewing

05:07
Crafting a Unique Beer Experience

08:08
Navigating the Beer Industry

09:18
David's Musical Journey

12:58
The Impact of COVID on Music

15:45
Balancing Multiple Passions

18:05
Community Engagement and Mental Health Advocacy

21:07
Running for Local Council

30:09
Reflections on Politics and Community


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Everyone thinks that they're going to create a beer brand one day, right? They go, one day I'd like to own a brewery.

That's the dream, right? It's the Aussie dream of owning a house is out the window. So now it's just brewing your own beer. Yeah. It's started as a uni assignment and then kind of just took off and became what you're tasting today. So thanks to the wonderful people at Dad and Dave's where we're sitting now, kind of helped put the dream into reality. it kind of, yeah, they've done a wonderful job at brewing this beer and I'm really happy to.

Speaker 1 (02:24.226)
Yeah, happy without 10 doubt.

You were in the uni assignment, right? Because people would be thinking, okay, did you study a Brewers course or what it could be? You were studying an MBA.

Yeah, so finishing my MBA and our final, I guess, assignment was to make a business and make a new product or business that could be taken out into the world. I thought my passions are music and I worked in the music industry for so long and beer. was always passionate about finding good beer and I wanted to have a beer that I could...

not feel bloated after I had it. So it's got a nice, low, I guess not as many bubbles in it that make you feel bloated afterwards. Like you've eaten a loaf of bread. and I, yeah, I kind of took in with this assignment of I work a lot in pubs and, know a lot of people in that, in that scene. And so I'll bring a beer into, into the mix and kind of combine those two worlds and use those contacts and, take this beer and take it out. And, when I handed in the assignment, the, professor said,

really looking forward to trying this beer. I said, no, was all hypothetical and not actually ever going to be a thing. And he went, well, why? No, mean, yeah, I guess that's a good, a good point. And we had, had the connection here at dad and Dave's just through playing, playing gigs here and, yeah, made a great connection with the guys here and kind of went, so hypothetically, what would it take to kind of do this? And, and Dave went, yeah, like super excited about it. Let's kind of.

Speaker 1 (04:03.106)
take it and run with it and see what happens. And then here we are. So we've actually just been brought some steak sangas as well.

Sure, we can bring them up on the table.

Like the hot wings section where you're going to taste it with different kind of...

I actually have a friend who's made a whole, he's made his own account entirely on steak sandwiches. Right. So there's the steak sandwich review.

I see that one there as well. The Steak Sanger review.

Speaker 2 (04:30.86)
He goes, one of the important things is he goes, look we've got to check the Brookvale scrapage. Which is running your knife across the

It's like this whole little ASMR section of the show where it's...

Speaker 1 (04:45.282)
How does that do is is a whole new curry puff picture and see that the crunch test

So what is it that you bring then? mean, I'm guessing that from your background, wasn't necessarily, you hadn't brewed before. So what do you bring to the brewery?

Yeah, I mean, it's the actual brewing itself is all done by Dave. We kind of sat down and came up with a concept and I had this design in mind of what I wanted the can to look like and how I wanted people to, I guess, experience the brand and how I wanted people to feel when they were drinking our beer, other than intoxicated after a lot of them. But how I wanted the experience to be. And I think it's the whole tagline of drink responsibility, first of all.

Very important. Don't have too many in one sitting. But the tagline of Find Your Oasis. It also touches on the subtle nod to Oasis, the band, and kind of bringing that whole full circle thing in together. But yeah, finding your Oasis of being able to have this beer at any time of year and just having a really enjoyable drop. And I guess we experimented with a few different flavor notes that I wanted to have come out of it. And Dave kind of just.

took it and brought it to me and said, how's this? And I went, that's it. So he's really the mastermind behind the whole brewing process. And I was just lucky to stick a logo on the can. But yeah, he took everything that I had envisioned it to be and turned it into what it is now. And I mean, they do such a fantastic job of everything. And we're really lucky to have that partnership with them.

Speaker 2 (06:22.774)
Yeah, certainly a test of that because the thing for me getting into the beer industry and enjoying beer content has always been, I don't know enough about how to explain beer. I don't know the flavor profiles or whatever. I explain the vibe. I want to find a beer for this occasion and whatnot.

the whole wine testing of it's red. It's definitely a red wine. And I'm definitely getting drunk. I'm getting drunk. Yeah, that's how it works out. But yeah, I guess I was really lucky to have this connection and just coincidentally have that assignment that I was putting forward and everything, know, right time, right place, everything kind of came together as it was meant to be. And we were really lucky to just have a really good

Good product, suppose. Yeah.

And can confirm we are recording this in basically the depths of Sydney winter. There's live music inside the brewery so we've come and sat outside.

It's nice and toasty, it's fantastic.

Speaker 2 (07:24.066)
I'm all good. But this isn't a beer that makes me go, this is too cold for this. I'm not wanting a stout. So no, you've done. Nailed the brief. Well done, Dad and Dad.

Yeah, absolutely. as I said, it's 365. It just hits the spot and hopefully you can find your oasis. Marketing's ticked off, done the deal. Happy days.

Yeah, got the tagline. He's sort of out.

This year, so I mean, you didn't envision coming in and having a beer brand. What do you envision next? mean, it's across, like where is it? Where's its distribution at the moment? Where are you hoping? is...

Yeah, I mean, it's, it is a pretty hard industry to crack, especially on the micro level, because you're competing with a lot of the big, big players in the scene. but yeah, we're, we're across a few different bars and pubs, which have been amazing to kind of, I guess trust us and take it on. And I guess as soon as somebody tries it, they go, this is, this is fantastic. We're all obviously take this on. but it's just about building that brands.

Speaker 1 (08:25.784)
brand awareness to go, you know, how do we get people to not opt for the VBs and the, fosters and the two, not the fosters. I'm, we were having a conversation about America before I now I've gone off on a whole different, nobody in Australia actually ever drinks fosters. But the two E's and the, know, how do get people to move from those well-known brands into something that's not as well known? And I mean, once people try it, they love it. So, yeah, it's really just about getting more brand exposure.

out there and introducing more people to the beer and hopefully they can find their new favourite pale ale I suppose.

Yeah, so there's a big question that gets asked a lot of musicians. You may have heard this question in the past as a music, we'll get to that. But is there a moment where you first see your beer in a fridge that isn't here, you know it's going to be here, and first see it you weren't expecting to and you go, whoa.

I think I was, I was playing a gig and I saw, so as I was pulling in, like as I was, loading in my gear, I saw somebody sitting outside who I didn't know. obviously I'd been to the venue many times and had a connection there and I was lucky that they took on the beer, but I remember pulling in and watching someone sit outside, having

a can of Oasis in the hand and having actually decided to pick it of their own accord and really enjoying the beer. I went, that's awesome. Did you go and introduce yourself? I didn't. was like, just waited to see if they went back for another one, which they did. But yeah, I kind of just let them enjoy the beer. But it was a really, yeah, was a special, special moment to see somebody drinking the Oasis.

Speaker 2 (10:11.064)
Yeah. Great. Let's pivot to your music career, which is if you want to follow at David Taylor Music. So you're a big champion of musicians. I'm guessing you started out, you've made your music early and now you want to give back. Give us a synopsis of your music and what it is that you're doing in the music scene.

this on.

Speaker 1 (10:32.114)
well, it's been a little long times inside the, I guess kind of been releasing my own original music and I've kind of stepped away from that space. I think it's, had a long, long run doing that and I had a lot of, lot of fun, had some great experiences, met some great people, had a decent amount of success locally in doing that. And, I guess I have moved past that to explore different ventures and different things.

Just, just while we're, before you then move away from your original music, I do want to say when we were listening to it, we were, we were trying to like, you know, as, as anyone does, you try and pick the thing. If you are going to go look up David's back catalog, think like, think Shawn Mendes.

Speaker 2 (11:19.532)
National hint that really is, you know, the country thing seems to be really big at the moment. There's notes of that. maybe you're a bit...

early. Yeah, possibly. Maybe I'll come back and revisit it in my second life. Yeah, David's version of this. I see what you did. That's fantastic. Thank you. It took me a while to get there. Yeah, it was a, had a lot of fun and it took me to the States. It took me to different parts of the world playing music, which was a really amazing experience. Straight out of school, I kind of was able to go and

into a daemon talisman.

Speaker 1 (11:56.728)
take a gap year by working on cruise ships in the US, which was an amazing experience. I got to meet people from all over the world who I've stayed in contact still. it was a really phenomenal experience to be able to go and do that at such a young age. And I had family and friends that all supported what I was doing. And I kind of had a really good network of people that were championing me.

which helped and of always allowed me to go and support, go and do what I wanted to do. yeah, look, I just wanted to be able to get, give that back to people that are kind of starting out and give advice where I can to those people and running a music school now as well, which is a really strange change of pace. I actually took over a music school that I attended when I was three or four years old. So it's kind of a nice full circle.

moment where I bought a school two and a bit years ago now, which is amazing. It's been a really phenomenal adventure for me to kind of see all these kids go through the same program that I went through all these years ago and get to see the next generation of musicians coming through.

Do you find, is it sort of music for you now is like that's the creative outlet? You know you've got so many things on the go and we all need to make a buck. We all need to you know move forward. Original music is extremely hard to do that.

It is, yeah. I think I went through a period where it was my everything. It so long. then when COVID hit, I watched how quickly that could kind of all be taken away, especially in this industry. Like it was brutal. mean, all my gigs were taken away within a second. I had a sync deal in the States that disappeared pretty much straight away. Everything kind of vanished in a course of two days. And I went,

Speaker 1 (13:59.008)
Wow. Yeah. Everything I've kind of worked for, for the last decade is...

Does that change your relationship with views?

It did, it did for a long time. I stopped pretty much altogether. I stopped the cruise ship work. I stopped all gigs. I kind of went back to, I went to uni and I went and worked corporate jobs and kind of stepped away from it entirely. And I lost, I lost a lot of love for it. I lost a lot of drive towards it and I'm slowly, I'm in a place with it now where...

I'm gigging enough that it doesn't feel like work. Like I was going to gigs and I was like, I don't want to be here. Like, shit, I'm singing the same songs to nobody. just, well, I don't want to be here. And now I can go to, you know, one gig a week if I want to. And there could be nobody there. I could just be sitting in a corner playing by myself, do it myself and go, this is sick. This is awesome. Like I'm sitting here, I've got a beer. I've got, I'm having a burger. Like it's...

And I'm just playing music. And even if nobody's listening, even if one person's listening, I don't care. Like I'm still doing it and it's just a creative outlet for me now. And I'm doing a lot of weddings and different bits and pieces with some awesome musos, like through the Baker Boys Band, which has been amazing. So I get to work with some of Sydney's best guys, guys and girls, and get to go and play at people's weddings and entertain a crowd and feel like a...

Speaker 1 (15:24.82)
superstar again for a couple of hours and then I'll come home and go, I've got 600 emails I need to get through now. But for that little three, four hour period, like you just, feel it all kind of comes rushing back and that adrenaline and that energy comes back and it's something that you can't really explain to anyone. Like it's, it is a feeling like no other. It's, people chase that high for so long. mean, Muso's...

to have a crowd of people, even if it's 50 people in a way, just eating out the palm of your hand and there is truly no better feeling. But then to be able to leave that and kind of go, I'm back in the office on Monday and that's fine. And be okay with yourself in that and going, I've just had this sensational Saturday night where I've been, I've had.

the whole wedding on the floor. Grandma was on the floor over here and they had to help her back up and I had, you know, I was lying down on the floor with them and we were just having a sensational time. And then I can leave that and go, nobody knows who I am. Like I did a job. I don't have to continue to chase that high because I know I can find it again, whatever I want to go back and do another year. And I can now just go and go back to work and live a normal.

life and still have that balance. Like I'm not chasing that sense of, don't even know what it was. know, the whole, every kid wants to be a pop star and a celebrity. And I'm like, I don't want that anymore. I truly couldn't think of anything worse. I really couldn't think of anything worse than having that, the limelight and having that anymore. just, it sounds like torture. But that little couple of hours where you're up there and you're like, okay, this is pretty cool.

for that limited period of time. It's a really, yeah, I'm really lucky to have people that trust us enough to play at their weddings and events and things to put it on a show for them and hopefully we kind of...

Speaker 2 (17:31.778)
We'll live up. You say you go back to balance though, but the rest, doesn't actually sound like your life has much balance with all the things you do. What we'll do, maybe we'll take a very short break because people who can't see it, our steak sandwiches have come. We haven't touched them for 10 minutes. I finished your first beer, like totaled it in two seconds. Wow, I need to drink responsibly. of course. All right, we'll pour another drink. We'll have our steak sandwiches. We'll come back. We'll sort balance.

It's a mess.

Speaker 1 (17:50.734)
gonna catch up, I like, no.

Speaker 1 (17:57.496)
Sounds good. Sounds balanced, a beer and a steak sang, what could be more balanced than that?

Speaker 2 (18:06.488)
Well, welcome back. David Taylor is our guest.

think this pool was a little better than the last one. Yeah.

Yeah, no, both of them were stunning. Yeah. So we've recharged our glasses. We've had our steak sandwich here at Dad and Dave's Brewing, which if you're ever in Brookvale on the Northern Beaches, you should absolutely go and check out. We're mostly celebrating, not mostly, we are celebrating Oasis Pale Ale, which is David's beer brand. Can say it is a beautiful drop. He described it as being something that tastes like a pale ale, but you don't want to feel like...

you've drunk a pale ale. It's more like drinking something like your Northern or whatever in terms of lightness on the body but tastes like-

want it to feel like you've eaten a loaf of bread. That was kind of the vibe I was going for. I just want to be able to have a couple of drinks that get you to where you need to go. And it's an enjoyable experience when you get there. Yeah. So, you know, it's, and you can still have that loaf of bread and not feel bad about it.

Speaker 2 (19:03.47)
If someone was listening... Yes, but me too. This whole thing falls over if they're not listening. Where could you get the beer?

Which I hope they will be.

Speaker 1 (19:15.23)
So we just relaunched, well it would have been launched for a while, depends how long you're banking these for, but we have had this website launched for a while. Yes, you can get them online. We ship all over the country. you can go to your favorite bar. Any good bar and pub will have Oasis. And if they don't, they're probably not a very good bar or pub. And they should have Oasis. So go to your local pub.

pub and bar and be like, where's my Oasis? I'm not coming back until you have it. And they'll go, what's that? And you'll go, it's, you can direct them to the website. You can give them our number. You can do it that way.

Give me the Oasis, what is that? If you don't know, you don't deserve my...

I it and they'll go you've had enough sir. Thank you very much But not enough of the right stuff because they're not serving Oasis. you know, okay Yeah, wait. I mean we can come here to dad and dad and Dave's go straight to the source. There's a few different like yeah Well wherever you are in Sydney crows nests foxtrot Blanko shorties bar Alma in freshwater all different I'm a fair few people that we can add it in add it in both. Yeah

Well said.

Speaker 1 (20:30.496)
I can't forget. Yeah, and that's just a couple of that relu-

And if you're an Adelaide on Brisbane, jump on line. Okay, away from the beer, we taught the music, you told us some great stories over our steak sandwich break that

Not to be invaded. What happens in Brookdale? Yeah.

Now, I mean, the football takes up your life. That's what you spend most of your time doing. And that feels like it's a whole other podcast episode in its own sense. I to go back. So 2016 Young Citizen of the Year. Or Young Australian of the Year. Which one did I say? I say it right?

Mmm.

Speaker 1 (21:07.702)
That was one of the two. Something for the young Australian citizen of the year for Kerring-Guy.

So how does one achieve that?

Uh, good question. it's, uh, yeah, it kind of took me by surprise a little bit. Um, it was just for community engagement and work. did, um, I was doing a lot in the mental health space around that time. So was working with, uh, kids, which is a local charity, KYDS, the Karinga youth development service. Um, it did a song for them, did a few concerts for them. Um, kind of just raised awareness in that space was, um, an R OK? Day ambassador for a little while.

around that period of time too, and still attend events and, and, and still very passionate about that space. So I was kind of working a lot, in the community with the youth community and, putting on music in and around that space and, kind of just always had been passionate about my, my community and being involved wherever, wherever I can be, suppose. and doing it how I can. Yeah. There's only so much you can do it. You know,

can.

Speaker 1 (22:18.446)
in your teens at that point. I remember getting the award and I was actually overseas at the time when it happened. And so mum had to go and collect it for me. And I remember she, there's a video, she went up on stage to collect it and the mayor went, oh, so can you, can you say a few words? And she obviously wasn't prepared to do anything.

So she got pulled right up on the spot and had to accept this award on my behalf and I will never hear the end of it if she had to go up and yeah, was yeah, we're very proud of David and everything and thanks so much. suspicious. It was, it won't ever see the life of that. No, she did a very good job. What about like... Possibly it might come out of the next milestone. We'll see if it can resurface. But no, she went and accepted it on my behalf and was very, yeah, very honored to have been given that.

It's recorded.

Speaker 2 (22:59.244)
next milestone birthday.

Speaker 1 (23:11.681)
award and

and you're still working in that space?

But yeah, where I can, mean, it's, it is something I'm still very, very passionate about. Admittedly don't have as much time as I maybe did back then, but I still go around and support the IEOK Day events and go to kids events when, when I can. And still something I will always advocate for, especially in the youth space, youth mental health and how important it is and speaking up. Yeah.

especially in young men as well, was something that I was quite passionate about. So I've lost a few friends to suicide over the years. And it's something I don't want to happen to other people if it can be avoided.

And we know like, I mean, this is a pub and a beer themed podcast and we always promote responsible service of alcohol, but could you speak to the importance of having a beer with your mate or taking your mate for a beer and what are the signs to take him for a beer?

Speaker 1 (24:15.052)
Yeah. Or I mean, yeah, there's, there's an ad campaign that they did in the UK, which is so incredibly powerful. And I'm going to butcher a description of it. there was two blokes that were at a footy stadium. and it's just this, this clip of these two guys, and this one dude celebrating and cheering for every goal and every, you know, every moment and the bloke next to him kind of quiet and, and, you know, there, but just very.

withheld and there's about 15 different clips, like two second clips of these guys celebrating and this other guy being kind of quiet and reserved. And then at the very end, there's the guy that was quiet and reserved comes along and sits in his seat and then puts down a jersey on the seat next to him. And it just goes, you don't know what's, what's really going on. You don't know what the signs are or who's really struggling. And every time I watch that, I'm like,

I need to go look at it. I mean even your description of it. It's

It's just such a powerful image that is so true. Like you don't know what people are fighting with or what people are going through. mean, I've like so many have had experiences myself where you have days where you just go down your own dark paths. I mean, I remember when I was in the States and then working on cruise ships and would put on a show.

one night and be this super extroverted, outrageous, doing ridiculous stuff. And then kind of go back to my like cabin afterwards and just be like super, just not myself and super down or super. I mean, especially being on a cruise ship, it's in such isolation that it's, you have to be pretty well adjusted. And I was lucky that I have, you know, had a good.

Speaker 1 (26:17.794)
counselor and I had good friends and good family that I went hey like this is this is dark guys like I don't know what's going on and I was able to you know talk my way through it but I know so many that haven't yeah I guess I've got a mom in particular that I tell everything more things than you would normally tell your mom I've been yeah I have a very good relationship with her and great friends and then

great people in my life that have always been there to support me and I guess I want to always wanted to be able to show people that there is light at the end of the tunnel and this too shall pass whatever you know whatever is going on in your life there is always light at the end of the tunnel and if it's everything will work out in the end and if it's not working out it's probably not the end so yeah yeah it is it is it's a

It's the important four words.

So my mom actually came with me to get this. So I was 18, I just turned 18. Wow. And we had to get permission from the school because the school was, because I was still finishing my HSC. Sure. And they were like, absolutely not, like not a chance. And so mom was like, fuck it, let's do it anyway. And so I remember going and being like, this is all, I wanted it for years. Like I don't know where I'd seen it. I think a friend used to ride it on his arm or something.

Okay, now that's pretty badass.

Speaker 1 (27:45.678)
And I remember all it's all I wanted I was like I'm just gonna get one like that's it like that's all I want like it's Just want these four words and mom was like I'll go I'll go with you I think she even paid for it Yeah, and she sat sat with me and and I got it and then I went Might get a couple of more and then just went a little a little overboard and it's still here It's still quite prominent. But yeah, I've stopped now. I haven't had any for a few years bits

My mum wouldn't let me get my ears pierced out and still won't let me my ears pierced to number 36.

Exactly right. think once once I had done this one. She's like once the damage is done now. Yes. well you

You're either a person who has been tattooed and that's it, or you're a person who hasn't been tattooed and still could, still could.

It hasn't yet. you do that, you've slightly crossed that barrier. It's a whole different game.

Speaker 2 (28:38.286)
Another great achievement in your life, I think, you're obviously very community focused. You ran for the local election in Kuroonglai. So not only have you gone, I'm going go release an album. Not only have you gone, I'm going to release a beer brand. I'm going to get into politics. How does that come about? And what is it like to run for council? A of people would think about it.

Yep.

Speaker 1 (29:01.332)
It was, I don't know if I'd it again, but it hasn't been a year yet. So ask me again in dream. see how I feel. look, it's something Mike, my granddad did it about 50 years ago. All right. in, not in the same ward, but in the ward adjacent. So in the same council he ran. Possibly it was, yeah, just they moved around. and I remember him when I said I was considering it, he was like,

It was probably the same, they moved the boundaries.

Speaker 1 (29:29.218)
Don't do it. And I was like, but like, want to give back to the community, which I very much did and still do. And I was like, I just, it's a good experience. He's like, it's great. And you'll, I still have the posters from when I did it, but it'll be a great experience. and then you will get to the end of it and realize that it's a thankless task. I went, it'll be fine. It'll be okay. And it was exhausting. was a really, really exhausting campaign.

I had a lot of great, it's all self-funded, it's local council elections. mean, it costs a lot of money to do this kind of stuff, which is, I wasn't expecting it at the time. Especially because it's all independent, like it's all completely done. I don't know, it's something I wanted a little bit of fresh energy in the council and a youthful voice, I suppose. I mean, there's so many issues at the moment when I think that

this particular generation is very, I mean, we're not afraid to let our voices be heard, but in positions of influence, probably quite outspoken. Yeah. Without, I'll get off my pedestal for a moment. Off my soapbox. But yeah, it was a great experience. And I met a lot of wonderful people and made a lot of connections in that space. And I connected with a lot of local counselors.

now who, you know, I've got their number and I can call at any point in the day and they'll actually listen to me and listen to what I have to say. There was a little period of time in there where it looked quite positive. I think I had a pretty big social media presence. We had a campaign video which was done, friend of mine, Christian Taylor Wood, put together this campaign video which was sensational. Like he just did...

world-class job of it and it got 50,000 views or something in the local area. Awesome. And we went, we've got this in the bag. No worries. And then I realized that those people are not the ones that are going out and actually paying attention of who to vote for. And there was a little bit of a period of time in there just towards the end of pre-polling and towards the election day where I went, this could actually be a thing. Like this could...

Speaker 1 (31:54.798)
I could get in here and the more that looks like happening the less I kind of wanted it. So when I was like, maybe I could impact in other ways and I mean it ended up going to the guy I had as my preference. So, but yeah, my number two, which is awesome and he's such a great bloke called Matt Devlin who's a firefighter and yeah.

sort of a sensational play can I'm really glad that he got up and then also the old the incumbent for the area as well who's a former mayor but called Jeff who's yeah done great stuff for the community for the last few years so I was very happy to see them both get up and doing good things for our for our area and as of right now I won't be holding any promises of running again but we'll see what happens in three years but don't quote me on that. What about me?

What about in the future, any other levels of politics?

I think the local level was vicious enough that I don't envy those in positions of power. I mean, it's a pretty brutal, brutal game. I had a lot of supporters and a lot of people that... I mean, I wasn't making any outlandish claims of doing things that...

were ridiculous. I remember a bullet came up to me on election day and when I don't like what's happening in Palestine and I went, I don't know what I can do about that from Kuringai, but vote for me. And what do you want to happen? He's like this. And I was like, vote for me and I'll make it happen. And obviously I had no influence on anything. But there was, you know, there's a lot of very vocal groups in these areas that are not afraid to let their voices be heard. And I don't, I don't envy people in

Speaker 1 (33:45.078)
in politics or in public figures that it kind of ties back to the thing before about being a teenager and wanting to be a pop star and a celebrity and I look at that now that I'm older and uglier and go I don't really want to have people pull apart how I was eating that steak sandwich if they saw me and recognized me. I thought I did too but I mean you know maybe if somebody else saw that they would have thought differently.

I thought you did it stunningly.

Speaker 1 (34:13.932)
Yeah, it is a very... I'm glad I did it. It's a fantastic life experience and I mean, I have my name on a ballot paper. Like how many people can say they did that? It's so cool to have done it. But yeah, I think I can make my impact in the community in other ways.

Yeah. Should, just while we're still on Politique here, talking to someone who has a beer brand, should politicians be able to, should they be able to publicly drink a beer?

Yeah, is that even a question? I mean look at the John Howard downing a beer, the Bob Hawke. Wasn't there like a Hawke beer brand or something? there you go. Yeah, well that's good. That's always very good today.

Leisure Center, it's yours. They serve succulent Chinese meals. Yeah. Because you've seen, I think in the, you know, the recent campaign you had, everyone was cheering on Dutton, who's trying to overturn. He obviously got smashed in the polls. Everyone was cheering him on at some, I don't know, some bar or something or some function center to finish to down a beer and he took a sip. And I thought that that was maybe more damaging to his campaign.

that you don't do that here. That's not the Aussie way to do it. And that could have lost it for him. I don't want to make any outlandish claims.

Speaker 2 (35:26.624)
I mean, did lose by the largest margin for a...

And he took the smallest sip. I mean are those two where's the sliding scale of ink? Where does X and Y meet together? It could have been You know, maybe that was my problem. Maybe I wasn't out there downing enough beers at 10 a.m. At pre-bowl maybe they could have And I had no excuse it was actually launched at my Election bar afterwards. So we there's a photo of

your own beer.

Speaker 1 (35:52.394)
my two younger brothers and I having the David Taylor t-shirts and holding the beer in there. I've just got this caption on Instagram, but I look, I lost so much. If you want a quick diet fix, run an election. I lost so much weight from running up. It was now put back on, but running up with, not from the beer, obviously, from all the steak sandwiches, from running up and down the street, chasing after people, trying to hand pamphlets to them, please vote for me. You just run up and down and just no sleep.

and no food. think I lived off Servo Pies for about two weeks. obviously going off on a tangent, there's a photo of the three of us just in these vote David Taylor t-shirts, holding this beer, just going, just lose an election question mark, drink Oasis. I thought that's, if I get nothing out of this, but it was such a strange, I just remember all my, seeing friends out in the street.

Beefkez,

Speaker 1 (36:50.414)
like a couple of weeks afterwards being like, what are you doing? Because I just saw this election and now you're running a beer. Like where did the, what happens in what's going on? And I was like, yeah, that's just running off on different streams of insanity. But yeah, one is down stream to the other. It does.

That very much sounds like your life. feel like we've done multiple times listing through all of them. like, let's wrap with a couple of just beer things. Okay. These are just quick fire. Hit me. Easy. What's the best local?

I have to say dad and Dave's because it's in right here. Yeah. I think I'm best local. the Foxtrot and Crow's Nest. Okay. Also proud owners of Oasis. You can buy that at any time. two different vibes. I mean, it depends on what you're going for. If you want to short answers, dad and Dave's or Foxtrot. Okay.

Okay, so what's the second best logo?

Speaker 2 (37:38.638)
Show Dances.

Should you put ham on a palmy?

On a palmy? Yeah. Yeah. Well otherwise it's not a palmy. It's just a snissell. Should put a hand on a palmy? Yeah. What else would you put on a palmy?

Well some people just put the tomato sauce and cheese.

Well then it's just a shit snitzel. It's a schnitzel. It's shitty schnitzel. Yeah, absolutely you should. If you ask me if we're gonna put pineapple on pizza, I'll walk away from this conversation and answer this question.

Speaker 2 (37:57.773)
That's a cheesy

Speaker 2 (38:04.556)
You seem very passionate about it.

Speaker 2 (38:10.818)
Let's ask him no! Of course no.

Okay, good. I'm glad we're on the same page.

I mean, we've just mentioned all of them, but what is the go-to pub meal?

well the schnitty. The schnitty. I think so. Or if it's called a pie. Yes, a pie. Like a Guinness and slow cooked beef pie. That's the go-to.

What's your success rate splitting the G?

Speaker 1 (38:30.638)
Not high. Not high. Maybe it's not enough attempts. Maybe I need to get more. Okay. Maybe I need to get more attempts at it. I think I've done it once.

Best bee I've ever had. He's holding the six pack of a waste of stuff.

VB, big fan of the... Yeah, Oasis, obviously.

So not the physical, like not the actual beer, whether it's Oasis or VB or whatever. What is the best beer you have ever had? Where were you?

that's tough. Best beer I've ever had. I don't know. I think there's nothing better than a hard earned beer. Like when you've just done, like you've just moved house or something. think when there's, there's truly nothing better than just cracking open a beer.

Speaker 1 (39:25.742)
I think other than just having a heart, there's no better feeling than having a heart earned beer. I think having a beer with my band when we just finished a tour and we kind of finally just stopped with my mate Cam and Mosley. And remember we just had a beer after that last show.

and just went, thank fuck that's over. It was such a phenomenal experience, but it was just so much like poor man traveling. Yeah. That we just, I remember sitting down and just going, a beer will fix this. Yeah. And then many more did. Yeah.

Okay, and last one. Dead or alive, if you could have a pint with someone, who would it be?

Speaker 1 (40:33.656)
Probably my mate Michael. I passed away about two years ago. He was one of my mentors in music. I had a heart attack at just, he was just over 50. So he kind of just left us all very, very quickly. I'd like to split an Oasis, well, like to have an Oasis each with Michael, just to thank him for everything he kind of did for me and for so many people.

yeah, I'd like to, I'd like to have a be with Michael. Otherwise Freddie Mercury. think that'd be, if Mike wasn't here, it'd be Freddie Mercury. Just to have a be with him. Yeah. Liverpool or something. I think it'd be like a Stevie, Stevie Gerrard. That'd be a pretty cool experience. The three of us at Isabel, that'd be it. Four of us at Isabel. Have to kick one off. Yeah. That'd be, that'd be a pretty cool experience.

Well, hopefully then.

Speaker 2 (41:28.662)
I think no, I think that's so sweet. Most people immediately go to Fred Mercury. That's where I would have thought. Because that question is that way, but I think that ties all of this up so nicely in the importance of, yeah, sitting and have a beer with your mate. Because you don't know if it's ever gonna be the last one.

Yeah, exactly right. David Taylor. Well, he is the many more, hey?

to many more. To Oasis Brewing, the other million fucking things it is that you do with your life. One or two. Thanks for joining us.

I didn't realize I was ending this up. Thanks for having me. Find your oasis.

Speaker 1 (42:05.814)
Awesome. cool man.