Zach WalkerLieb: Growth, Leadership &the American Dream

Zach WalkerLieb is a fourth-generation Las Vegas native, nationally recognized real estate leader, and one of the top-producing agents in the region. As Owner and Managing Partner of Willow Manor at Keller Williams The Marketplace, he leads one of the highest-performing luxury teams in Las Vegas, with hundreds of homes sold and hundreds of millions in career volume. Zach has been named a Top 30 Under 30 Realtor both globally and nationally and is recognized as one of the Top 40 Under 40 Realtors as well. Zach is known for his understanding of Las Vegas’ growth, housing supply, and economic trends, making him a trusted voice on where the city, and the market, are headed. He serves as Chairman of the Board for Habitat for Humanity Las Vegas, where he advocates for expanding access to homeownership and advancing practical housing solutions. He also sits on the Board of Keystone Corporation and is a Fellow with Club for Growth, contributing to conversations around economic policy, business growth, and the future of the American economy. Across business, nonprofit leadership, and policy involvement, Zach brings a grounded, real-world perspective on housing, opportunity, and long-term growth in Nevada and beyond.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Welcome to Lipstick and Legacy, a podcast where your story matters and your journey has purpose. Together we move and inspire our communities one story at a time. Welcome, Zach.

SPEAKER_01 0:11

I'm very excited to be here. Thank you for having me.

SPEAKER_00 0:13

Can you introduce yourself and tell me what you do and a little bit about who you are?

SPEAKER_01 0:18

Yeah, so my name is Zach Walkerleieb. I am a fourth generation local to Las Vegas. I currently serve as the chairman of the board for Habitat for Humanity. I'm the owner and founder of Willow Manor, a real estate company. I also sit on the board of Keystone Corporation and I'm a fellow with Club for Growth Nationally.

SPEAKER_00 0:39

Awesome. So I am as well a fourth generation Nevadan. We are hard to come by. So that makes our children fifth generation. I do know that my grandfather came on a mining claim, and that would have been, you know, four generations ago. Can you tell me a little bit about your growing up in Las Vegas, what that looked like, what it means to you?

SPEAKER_01 1:03

Wow. Well, it's very special growing up in Las Vegas. I think it's so unique. You know, that no one really has the perspective of what it looks like. When you go off to college and you tell people you're from Las Vegas, or you introduce yourself to people from around the country, you know, everyone thinks it's uh casinos, right? And growing up here, honestly, it felt like the last bastion of the Wild West where there was real freedom to explore and live and just experience all different areas of life. You could all extremes are in Las Vegas. You can go any direction you want, and so you you could really feel life and it was vibrant. And I think some of that has changed as the city's grown up and become more regulated. But growing up here was something very special. It's a wonderful city and a wonderful state, and people really do care about each other. You come to understand that this is a small community, and everyone's interconnected, and when you form that bond, uh you can rely on each other almost like family. It's a very, very special community that was very free for a long period of time, and I hope we maintain levels of that freedom moving forward.

SPEAKER_00 2:15

Yes, we really have that um thread of the Wild West. I remember my mother walking out of our front door, and she always had these big red fingernails, and she had a shotgun, and there was a rattlesnake, and she just hit the rattlesnake with like the end of the gun, and it was like nothing like get the get the snake, you know? And it's just like that is just something so special about Las Vegas, is just that wild west, that that free live, live wild. I just love that thread. I love it so much. Can you tell me a story that maybe a memory you have as a child growing up in Las Vegas, maybe a good one, maybe a bad one, something that really shows us who you are and who you were as a child.

SPEAKER_01 2:57

Well, I don't know if it would be a defining moment of who I am, but you know, it's something unique to Las Vegas. Is one of my best friends growing up, uh, his his mother was the head of entertainment at Tropicana. And so the Folly's Bergère show and magicians and all that stuff. So there were a few times where I got to go backstage and see everything and experience it. But I, you know, I'd get called up on stage, they'd set it up in the audience and do all that stuff. So I got to participate in big acts and you know, see behind the scenes stuff that you know you you think is normal growing up in Las Vegas, but it's just not. And so so many, so many cool things happen on the strip, and you get to you get to experience things that I don't think anyone else ever will.

SPEAKER_00 3:45

I agree. I was raised, as you know, in a costume store here in Las Vegas, and for me that was very normal to see celebrities and um talent from the strip come in, but that was in a time when you couldn't order things off the internet. If you wanted something, you came into the shop and asked for it. And so that was very normal for me. And I'm just now at 50 years old realizing that's not a common thing for children to be raised in a costume store in Las Vegas. So I'm I'm grateful for those experiences and I wouldn't trade them for anything. Can you tell me a little bit about faith and family for you? What does that look like at this time in your life?

SPEAKER_01 4:22

Yeah, I've been on an interesting faith journey, I would say. Um in high school, I I almost pushed off religion. I didn't feel like so I I grew up Catholic. I went to Catholic school from pre-K through college. Um Catholic school my entire life. And so I grew up Catholic, and as I would ask questions about the faith, I would get very simple answers. And it didn't it didn't really provide what I was looking for. And so I rebelled against the faith, especially uh in high school and then in college. And I started studying Eastern religion. So I studied Hinduism and Buddhism, I read the Bhagavad Gita, the Upanishads, I read all of it. I went into Eastern religion because it felt like something that I could uh put into practice. That's what gravitated me towards it. And then I I slowly started coming back to Catholicism uh over time, and it's it's become more important in my life as I've as I've aged. Um and and I would say that I'm I'm still seeking full faith. It's a very difficult thing to come to where you fully believe and trust and submit. But I I know that that's the answer. I know that that's the the truth in the way, for me personally. And I know that it's very important to raise your kids in a faith-built home. No matter the faith, I think it's important that your kids are raised in a faith-built home. It provides them the right morals, the right values. It it structures their life differently moving forward. So now in my life, time in life, it's more important now than ever to have faith, but it's also something that's benefited me. And you know, interestingly enough, I think men like Jordan Peterson and his exploration of religion and faith helped pull me back in as well because it's uh it was intellectual in its pursuit. It was challenging. When you you read stuff from him or you you dive into those rabbit holes, I was intellectually challenged in a way that I wasn't previously. So that helped pull me back into the faith and explore the mystery of it. And and you know, now it's it's endless. It's a it's a rabbit hole that I could go down continuously and always find something new and important. And uh so I I enjoy that aspect of it now as well, but still in exploration of full faith where I know I know and not quite there yet.

SPEAKER_00 7:08

One thing Jordan Peterson says, I've read all his books, um, I've loved a lot of the things that he says is I live as though I believe. And I really liked that, and I've used that kind of as a mantra because who would I be if I truly believed? Would I be on the corner with a sign, with no food, just giving all of my life to him? And so I always try to live as though I believe, because if I truly believed, what would my life look like? And so I do strive for that to live as I believe fully, and he's made a big impact for me as well. And I'm a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and I never had that rebellious spirit. I've always believed, and as I've gone through those hardships in my life and seen miracles, I can never deny the spirit, the feeling, and those miracles, and I can never deny it. And so I have to stand in testimony all the time that there is a God, He knows us intimately, and He is in every part of us. I have children that have stuck to the faith, I have children that have gone away, but I do know that I raised them in it, and after that it's their choice.

SPEAKER_01 8:15

Yep, yeah, couldn't agree more.

SPEAKER_00 8:17

Uh, let's go a little bit into what you do professionally. So you are a realtor, you are quite young in my perspective. Tell me a little bit about the market here in Las Vegas. It is a crazy market. My daughter was just looking for a home for herself and her husband and baby. And if they're renting an apartment, they can't afford to save for a home, right? So there's like this conundrum. So then they move back in with me, which is always a blessing, right? So, anyways, tell me a little bit about the market here, what that looks like, especially for young families.

SPEAKER_01 8:50

It's very tough. That's that's the reality of it. Is we're in a very tough market. It's the same nationally. We're experiencing an enormous amount of pressures from multiple different areas. Um, interest rates just went up again. So, you know, the Iran war caused interest rates to reverse course. We were heading down, we hit the fives, high fives. Now we're back up to 6.75 as of today. So I think that there's a higher chance that we hit seven than we do fives again based on the current trajectory of everything. When we first shot up in interest rates in the second half of 2022 leading into 2023, mortgage rates hit eight percent. And when mortgage rates hit eight percent, you saw a decline start to happen in certain segments of the market. And so in real estate, we've actually been experiencing what I would call a recession in the industry for the last four years. We've had a very tough real estate market for four years. Sales volume. Previously, we would sell between 4,000 and 4,500 single-family homes every single month in Las Vegas for over a decade. That was pretty much the norm, just for a number to understand. When rates went up, we dropped all the way down to 1,100 single-family home sales and we stayed there for almost a year, and then we slowly crept back up, and we got to about 2,500 home sales. Then we fell back down again when the war hit. We've kind of climbed back up. But we're essentially at half the sales volume that we should be at four years later. So we've been in a ridiculously low sales volume environment. People are stuck in their mortgages, they're stuck in their homes because they got two percent mortgages and they paid four hundred thousand dollars for a home. If they were to move up, the only move because now that home's eight hundred thousand dollars. If they were to move up, they would be moving up into a one and a half million, two million dollar home to make it worth the leap, and the interest rates are going to be six and a half percent or higher. Right. And so why would you leave the two percent mortgage on a four hundred thousand dollar home? It it doesn't make sense for a lot of people. So sales just aren't occurring. It's becoming unaffordable. Builders didn't build, we're underbuilt by probably over a hundred thousand units in Las Vegas. We didn't build, underbuilt. Um so we we have a serious supply issue that we're facing, very serious supply issue. And until that's addressed, we're going to be in a housing crisis for the foreseeable future.

SPEAKER_00 11:27

What advice do you have to younger couples? I mean, it's it's already against the grain to get married, to have children. You're making $20 an hour, which to me seems like a lot of money considering I worked at my dad's dry cleaners for like $5 an hour. How do you tell them to invest in their future? What would be your advice to them?

SPEAKER_01 11:49

I know this is tough for probably you to hear and many other parents, but honestly, the best thing for kids to do right now is to live with their parents and save up.

SPEAKER_00 11:58

Oh, thank you so much for that advice. I'll tell all 10 of my children that advice. Thank you. We have had a rotating door, but it's fine. It helps them get on their feet. They can save some money for a down payment, get their credit built up, all of those things.

SPEAKER_01 12:14

It's very important because right now it is incredibly difficult to afford a home. But what I will say is this problem is only going to become worse. This is not getting resolved anytime soon. Prices are not going to collapse, they're not going to correct to that level. They may correct again a little bit if interest rates go back up to 8%. We could be experiencing a situation where prices adjust a little bit again. But we're not in a bubble. We're not going to have this 30, 40, 50% correction that would allow affordability to re-enter the market. We're also not going to experience 3% mortgages again, absent some absolute insane.

SPEAKER_00 12:51

So you don't think that's ever coming back, those beautiful interest rates at 2%, 3%.

SPEAKER_01 12:56

And let's say it did. Even if it did, it would only exacerbate the problem again later. We would just experience the same thing we're experiencing right now five years down the road. Dropping the rates like they did in 2020, the worst mistake they could have ever made. They they inflated the market by doing this. The Federal Reserve caused this housing problem in many, many ways.

SPEAKER_00 13:19

How can it correct? What would just an outside advice from you looking in as somebody who deals with this every single day? What's what's a proper way of correction? Not that that will happen, but there's only one solution.

SPEAKER_01 13:30

That's it. Any other solution that people put forward, down payment assistance, changing little tiny things in regulation, it will it has a negligible impact. It doesn't matter. There's only one solution, and that's addressing the supply side of real estate. We need to allow for more building to happen. That means in areas like Las Vegas, we need to have our land. We're federally controlled land surrounding Las Vegas. Until we own our land and we're able to develop on our land, we cannot build affordable houses. It's impossible. But the only solution is to fix the supply side. We need to cut regulation, we need to cut permitting process, entitlement process, we need to cut the cost around development and around the land acquisition so that builders can build and build a lot. Again, remember, we're a hundred thousand units or more underbuilt in Las Vegas. That's the same issue nationally. Only very few select metropolitan areas where that's not the case. So we're drastically underbuilt. We need to increase the supply because the demand is going to stay steady or increase, especially in areas like Las Vegas. We have doubled the amount of people moving in. So this is a good this is a good reference point. From 2000 to 2007, we were building between 25,000 and 30,000 new homes per year in Las Vegas. From 2008 until 2018, we were building 5,000 per year. So for a decade, and then now we got up to like 8,000, 9,000 per year, and then permits just got cut by 20% because of the economic situation again. So we're underbuilding again vastly. The only answer is to provide supply. And so again, when you have regulated land, you have regulatory barriers, the only way to develop that land at a cost-effective manner is to produce high-level, luxury-level, or upper middle level homes, because that's the only thing that will give you a return on investment. There's no one building $300,000 homes in Las Vegas. They're not building $400,000 homes in Las Vegas. They're only building $800,000, $900 million, $2 million homes because that's the only thing that will return profit because of the land cost and because of the regulatory barrier. Until we have deregulation and control of our land and the ability to develop in an inexpensive way, we will be in this housing crisis for the foreseeable future.

SPEAKER_00 16:05

One thing I've really noticed is the uh problems with my husband's in construction. The margins have gotten so tight because of tariffs. He gets a lot of stuff from Canada and from, you know, out of this country. That's really hit him. He has to put these fees on to pay for those. I don't know what that looks like long term. And also just small businesses. I owned a very small business. It was a game trailer that came to birthday parties, and I was feed and licensed out of business. I had to have a license for every every single county in Las Vegas and different district. I had to pay my business license. I had to have insurance. I had two employees and had to have workers' compensation. Yeah. And it just there was no margin in it for me.

SPEAKER_03 16:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:51

I think that the over-regulation, it it just suffocates small business, which in turn suffocates it's like a ripple effect. Do you have any thoughts on that?

SPEAKER_01 17:02

We actually have one of the highest licensing and permitting cost barriers in the country. So people think of Nevada as business friendly, but to your point, to small businesses have an enormous permitting and licensing barrier in a way that doesn't exist in many other places. You should be able to go out and create a business, start it as cost-effective as possible so that you have runway, so that you can invest in things that would add value to your business rather than pay the state, which is inefficient use of your money.

SPEAKER_00 17:33

The other thing that really hits, and I feel like it's the I would say middle class, middle upper class, are those taxes. I mean, a third of our income goes straight off the top. And it's like I feel like we're in this weird bracket where we're we're not gazillionaires. We, you know, we're just living our life, we still have to get a loan to buy something, all of those things, but we're also the ones creating the jobs with small businesses in our community. And I feel like the tax system is just strangling us as kind of middle class Americans. Thoughts on that?

SPEAKER_01 18:08

You nailed it. The middle class is supporting supporting everyone else. And you're you are in that middle ground where you don't have the government subsidy, you don't have the the benefit of um having support at the government level. Your tax dollars aren't coming back to you necessarily in any way. And you're also not at the that breakthrough threshold where your capital investments are now returning for you and you're able to grow through all of this, uh hold assets in this inflationary environment, you're stuck in that middle where they're just depleting you. If you take 30% of someone's cash, or in California, 50% or more, and they're in that, let's say, $100,000 to $2 million range, the amount of usable cash that you're taking from them, which would then go back into the economy, is astounding. And in my opinion, it's it's slavery. I I think that it's uh it's a horrendous misuse of of capital. Um the fact that you have to work 30% of your year to pay the government is terrible. It should not exist.

SPEAKER_00 19:25

Yeah, it's it's stifling in in our case for sure. All right, a couple more uh quick questions on real estate. How did you get into it? I know most people don't say, when I grow up, I want to be a real estate agent or I want to be like in construction, whatever it is. How did you get into it? And what is maybe one of the biggest mistakes you made early on as a young kind of entrepreneur?

SPEAKER_01 19:48

So I I would say I got into it through serendipity, um, or maybe providence.

SPEAKER_00 19:54

I that was a good word, by the way. I love that word serendipity, I'm using it now.

SPEAKER_01 19:59

Um I w I studied finance, and I was going to go into so I went to Santa Clara University in Northern California, and I was going to get a job at Goldman Sachs or UBS. Those are the two places I interviewed in San Francisco. I ended up getting both jobs. They offered me the jobs. And I said, you know, I don't I don't think this is for me. I just don't feel like this is the right career path for me. I didn't want to sit behind a desk and crunch numbers for 80 hours a week to work my way up. And so I came back to Las Vegas and I I just wanted to learn about real estate. So I chatted with a broker here in Las Vegas and asked him for a job, and he said, There's no jobs in real estate. You're an independent contractor, you go on something. He called me a couple days later and he said, I got a job for you. I created one for you. He said, You're gonna underwrite all of these investors that are coming into Las Vegas and helping understand their portfolio on investment strategy. I'm like, great, let's do it. And so I turned down $80,000 to $100,000 a year jobs in San Francisco, and I came back in my first year I made $28,000. Um but the promise in real estate was that my success or failure, and this is something you told me, and it's something that resonated with me, and it's largely what caused me to choose the career, was that my success or failure was on my shoulders. It wasn't up to anyone else. If I was going to succeed or if I was going to fail, it was going to be the result of what I did. And so I I was like, that's the ticket, let's see. So for the first three, four years of real estate, I almost treated it like a master's degree. I just put in my time, I educated myself as much as I could, I tried to learn everything I could about the industry, and then I progressed. And in my by the time I was 26, I got top 30 under 30 in the world.

unknown 21:54

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 21:55

That's astonishing. And then I got top 30 under 30 for the National Association.

SPEAKER_00 22:00

Of Realtors and What changed for you in those few years? Like what was your switch where it really changed for you?

SPEAKER_01 22:07

Honestly, it was probably how I interacted with people. I think that was a big change. So when I entered real estate, I thought it needed to be sales. Like I was selling. And so my communication process, if I was sitting across the table from you and I was trying to earn your business, I would have a script, I would. I was trying to sell you. And that I think was damaging. What I changed, my mindset changed was I'm just here to advise, I'm here to assist. You choose to work with me, you choose to work with me. I'm very confident that I'm providing you the best information available. I'm incredibly informed in this uh arena, and I know that I'm giving you the best of me. And so the confidence level changed. The way that I approached people and interacted with people changed. And once that shift happened, that I shifted from this is a sales thing to this is me assisting them in the process, this is me providing solutions for them, guiding them. They want to work with me, they want to work with me, if they don't want to work with me, they don't want to work with me. When I made that shift, that's when I took off.

SPEAKER_00 23:13

Yeah, it's about the relationship. I've I've definitely learned that. Um in my once you put the money kind of on the back burner and build that relationship, the other things come. The success, the money, the open doors. All right, let's move into the last part of our interview. Talk a little bit about um habitat for humanity. You do some awesome charity work in our valley here. Can you tell me a little bit about what it is? I've heard habitat for humanity since I can remember. It's it's an old, it's an old foundation. Tell me a little bit about it and why you're involved.

SPEAKER_01 23:45

Well, I'm involved because it it's a natural fit for me. It's it's real estate, it's housing, it's what I know, it's what I love, it's what I I breathe every day. And so for me to run that organization, uh I'm I'm the best person for it. I'm I'm boots on the ground in every capacity. You know, I I'm also deeply involved in uh the legislative side of real estate. I I understand the laws that are impacting us, what things are going on behind the scenes as well. So I can drive the ship in a different way. So that's why I I chose Habitat as the organization to run. Habitat provides affordable housing in Las Vegas. There's a subsidiary portion of it, Restore, which is, I guess, the best way to put it, is like it's a goodwill, but for housing stuff. So you can go there, get furniture, get light bulbs, get things that are for your house. Um but then the main objective of Habitat for Humanity is to provide affordable housing to the community. Our average mortgage in Las Vegas is $460 a month for our homeowners.

SPEAKER_00 24:56

For habitat.

SPEAKER_01 24:58

For habitat. So if you own a habitat home, your mortgage payment is $460 a month on average.

SPEAKER_00 25:03

It's manageable.

SPEAKER_01 25:05

It's incredible. So to get how do you qualify?

SPEAKER_00 25:08

How do you qualify for habitat?

SPEAKER_01 25:10

You apply, and we get over 5,000 applications. So think of the demand that we have for affordable housing in Las Vegas. Um we currently build between five and ten homes per year. That's all we're able to provide at the current moment. I took over as chairman about a year ago. We've had a full reorganization. Our goal now is over the next five years to build 50 units or more per year, and then I want to get us to the point of being an actual developer in the city of Las Vegas, meaning that we're competing with KB homes, Poulti, all the big ones. I want to be building almost as many homes as they build per year, and I want to be doing it at an affordable rate. So I think that Habitat is a very good solution to the affordable housing crisis right now because our labor is volunteer labor. We run off of donations from the private sector. Obviously, there's government support where we can get it, but it's largely a private citizen-supported organization, and we provide affordable housing, which is our major crisis, as we've already discussed, in the country. Um for perspective, the average mortgage right now is about $3,000 or more per month. Average rent is $21,000, $2,200. So if you could own your home for under $500 a month, what a blessing. Yes. And so we want to be able to do that as often and as many times as we possibly can for our community.

SPEAKER_00 26:49

So the people who apply, are they people, are they low income? Are they people with health issues? Like what is your main um applicant look like?

SPEAKER_01 26:58

Low income. Low income's the main applicant, yeah. And we and that's what we try to attend to most is the people who otherwise could never afford a house of their own. We want to be able to provide a house for them.

SPEAKER_00 27:11

Why do you think it's important to serve in your community? Um, I know you're busy, you have a wife, you have a family, you have a business, you have all of these things that you're part of. What does service look like for you and why is it important?

SPEAKER_01 27:24

To you to what we discussed earlier, it's none of this is for me at the end of the day. It's all for God. Everything is for the higher order. Whatever I do ripples. The rest of everyone who experiences me experiences me in a certain way. They either experience love, care, kindness, or they experience harshness, force, divisiveness. So what I put into this world will be what's experienced in this world. If I don't put that into my community, my children won't experience a better world. The people that I'm interacting with or all the people that I touch won't be experiencing a better life. I have the ability to create value, to expand love, and to touch people's lives in a way that others may not. And so because I have that capability, I have that reach, it is my duty to influence it in the proper way and to expand upon it. I believe that Las Vegas is one of the best cities, if not the best city in the world. I I love my community, I love my family, I'm generational here. Um I I must do it.

SPEAKER_00 28:47

I feel the same way. Sometimes it can feel overwhelming to serve, you don't know where to start. And I always just say, start where you are, start with your neighbor. On Saturdays when I go for my grocery pickup, I put goodie bags. It's called the Glitter Collective, because my mom always said if you put a little glitter on it, it looks better. And I hand them out to women in the parking lot waiting for their groceries. And it's amazing how I can be in a bad mood or they're just doing their daily thing. And when I hand them that bag, I'm instantly changed. They're smiling, they're waving, and that's how we build a community is through small and simple acts of kindness, layer upon layer, line upon line. And I think that's a really powerful place to start.

SPEAKER_01 29:28

Yep. I I want to expand on that a little bit because as you can probably gather, my my politics are rather libertarian in nature. I I believe that the people have the power to influence change much better than the government, especially the federal government. And so I think that the solution that we're all searching for, because we see these large problems that exist in the world, and we don't know how to attend to it. We don't know what to do. And so right now, the hand that is reaching out to the people that are down on the ground that have fallen, the hand that is reaching out and readily available to them is the federal government. It's assistance programs. And so naturally, if that's the system that exists, it's going to grow. Because that's the hand that can lift you up currently. The hand that should be there is us. The hand that should be reaching down is you and me. It's the people that have the capacity to reach down and lift other people up. Because if more of us did that, you'd have net less need for the federal government. You'd have less of a system that perpetuates us required to give 30% of our income to a broken system. We need to be the ones reaching down and helping people up. Because if we did that more, we would serve other people, which is the total benefit, but we would also reduce the need for a system like the federal government that exists today. So I think the more that we help each other, the more that we are the readily available hand for people to grasp onto, that is where real power lies, and that we all need to do it.

SPEAKER_00 31:22

I really do love that. And I feel like sometimes when we're paying taxes, I think, what kind of power could this money have if I actually put it where I think it needs to be? And I think that goes back to our talk about faith and family and how important churches are, community. I'm a member of all of these women's groups not affiliated with the church, and they're all looking for connection, community. They've all just moved here within the last three or four years and they're looking for friends, they're looking for some to learn how to sew, to learn how to cook. And I'm like, you know what? Our church already offers that and it's free. Okay. We all combine our talents. And I just think there's so much power in that in church and community. And so if it's not through church, find your group, find something you're passionate about, give your service and time. If you don't have money, give an hour. If you don't have an hour, give five minutes. Zach, I always ask everybody on my podcast this question: what do you want your legacy to be?

SPEAKER_01 32:21

I want to be a good father and a good husband. I love my children. I love my wife. And so that's number one. Number two, I want Nevada to have its land. If I could fight and win any cause, it'd be that. Because that is the most important thing to fix so many different issues. Housing affordability. We have more land, we could build more affordable homes. We have more land, we could bring in a diversified industry and cause uh less risk profile to economic movements. We have higher income, more wages. We have a more stable community. So we need our land. Uh it's the number one issue that I fight for, it's the number one thing that I believe in. I think it would fix so many different problems. We need our land in Las Vegas. And so if I had a legacy win, that would be it. But I think that we we think on such a big scale that we we forget the importance of of what being a family and good community member could be. We're both biblical in our tradition. Look at Joseph. An unquoted person, but the father of Christ. He was a silent figure. He didn't participate in the story, supposedly. But in reality, he raised Jesus. He was the father of Jesus. We would not potentially have had Jesus in the form that we did unless we had Joseph. So the silent figure was maybe one of the most influential figures in the history of humanity, if not. Right? I don't know who I'm raising. I don't know what my sons will turn out to be. I don't know who they will impact in what manner. I don't know who I'm interacting with every day. Again, are they experiencing love? When they interact with me, are they seeing a better vision of the world, a better vision of life than they did previously? Or are they becoming nihilistic because they interacted with me? So my influence on this world could be that I'm just touching the life that will change the world. It may not be me that changes the world. It may be the life that I'm impacting that changes the world. And so I think we have to enter with much more care about the things that are closest to us. You're 100% right when you say community, church. Those are the people you know and love right now, that you have so much in common with, that you're experiencing the same world as them. You're interacting in the same city, seeing the same people, experiencing the same hardships as those people. Love them, feel them, be with them. That's where change can happen. You don't know who you are interacting with that could be the person that changes the world. It may be you. You may be the one that goes and does the grand things, the big things. But it could be that you're influencing the person that doesn't. And so be cautious and careful about the daily activities because those are the things that matter most, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_00 35:49

Wow, that was beautifully said. If you don't have political aspirations, you should. I would vote for you, I would follow you you, I would knock doors in 120 degree weather for you. You love Nevada, I can tell. And I know that because I love it too, because we are deeply rooted. Zach, thank you so much for coming on Lipstick and Legacy today. I appreciate our conversation.

SPEAKER_01 36:13

Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_00 36:14

Thank you.