Graz: The Gem of Austria

Exploring Graz, Austria: Food, Culture, and Adventures - We Should Move Here Travels Podcast

Join Brittany and Josh in this special episode of the 'We Should Move Here Travels' podcast as they recount their recent trip to Graz, Austria. Originally planning to record on-site, the hosts explain why they had to record from home instead. They discuss their journeys through Austria, including a picturesque train ride, staying in Graz, and their brief time in Vienna. The episode highlights their experiences with local cuisine, their yoga sessions at Hotspot Yoga, and their adventures exploring Graz's stunning historical sites like Eggenberg Castle and Schlossberg. While sharing their memorable food encounters - from pumpkin soup to delicious Schnitzels - they also provide insights into the public transportation system and their overall impressions of Graz. They conclude with a reflection on how Graz measured up to other destinations they've visited and their plans for future travels.

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00:00 Welcome to the We Should Move Here Travels Podcast

00:19 Reflecting on Our Trip to Graz, Austria

00:48 Travel Adventures and High Ceilings

02:25 Our Journey from Augsburg to Graz

04:56 Experiencing Yoga in Graz

07:59 Exploring Graz: Public Transportation and Castles

12:45 Culinary Delights in Graz

26:24 Churro Sticks Delight

26:48 Austrian Chocolate Adventures

28:29 Exploring Austrian Wine

30:07 Schlossberg Mountain Fun

32:11 Graz: A City of Museums

35:35 The Friendly Alien Museum

38:05 Reflecting on Graz

39:01 Travel Tips and Future Plans

52:04 Final Thoughts and Farewell

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Transcript

Brit 0:11

Hello and welcome to the We Should Move Here travels podcast. My name is Brittany.

Josh 0:17

I'm Josh

Brit 0:17

and we are your hosts. We are not currently in Graz, Austria. Um, we are doing this pod from home right now, mainly because when we were in Graz, the ceilings were just too high for us to feel comfortable with how the sound would turn out. So, we are doing this from home.

Josh 0:40

Yeah. Like you said, high ceilings, faulted ceilings in our Airbnb there, so we're just gonna get a ton of echo. Yeah. And plus we had an extra day before we got back, so we thought we'd kind roll in our travels back and Austria all into this episode, so.

Brit 0:57

Yeah.

Josh 0:59

Yeah,

Brit 0:59

it was an amazing trip. Mm-hmm. So if you've been following along, you know that we went to the Netherlands, Belgium, uh,

Josh 1:10

Augsburg.

Brit 1:11

Germany and Austria.

Josh 1:14

Yep.

Brit 1:14

And so this was our last stop.

Josh 1:16

Yeah. Of a very long but very fun trip.

Brit 1:20

31 days. Yeah. Without my cats. I don't know how I survived, but here we are.

Josh 1:27

It's hard to imagine how they survived'cause they've been glued to us ever since we've been back. Now.

Brit 1:32

Oh my gosh. Oreo has been sleeping with me every single night. Like he has not left my side. He actually is meowing right now, so if you hear him, we apologize, but I mean, he's just, he just wants to be with mom and dad.

Josh 1:45

Yeah.

Brit 1:45

So

Josh 1:46

he thinks we left him again.

Brit 1:47

Oh no, no. So we stayed in Graz the entire time that we were there.

Josh 1:53

Mm-hmm.

Brit 1:53

So we were there for six days.

Josh 1:56

Mm-hmm.

Brit 1:57

And then we ended up taking a train from Graz to Vienna, and then we flew home from Vienna. Mm-hmm. So we were only in Vienna for one night, so we definitely did not explore at all. We stayed at an airport hotel that did not have a/c and it was hotter than hell, but we survived that as well. Um, but Graz was stunning.

Josh 2:23

Oh, so gorgeous. From the second we got on the train from Augsburg to come to Graz

Brit 2:31

mm-hmm.

Josh 2:32

We were just blown away by the scenery. Now I was. Leading up to coming to Graz, I was all hyped for the train ride from Augsburg.'cause we were supposed to go directly south from Augsburg into the Alps and then a train ride all through the Alps on the way. But apparently there was some maintenance that needed to be done because of some weather that had come up. So we had to take a separate route, which actually took us all the way north through Berlin to Vienna and then down to Graz.

Brit 3:13

Yeah. It was a long travel day.

Josh 3:16

Mm-hmm. Very long travel day. But we still get, did get to see plenty of mountains, beautiful scenery.

Brit 3:24

Oh my gosh. On the way in from Vienna to Graz. Mm-hmm. The mountains were stunning. Mm-hmm. Beautiful.

Josh 3:33

Yeah, I think that section was two and a half, maybe three hours. But it flew by because of all the, the scenery that was going on.

Brit 3:42

Yeah.

Josh 3:42

I, I took so many pictures and videos, so, and'cause it was such a long day, I had looked up, I think in Vienna how much it was for a business class seat to go the rest of the way. And it was only 30 euros for the two of us to go the rest of the way. So it's like, heck yeah. And so we had those kind of singular seats, kind of like what we're sitting in now with recliners and

Brit 4:08

yeah, it was nice.

Josh 4:09

Yeah, it was super nice.

Brit 4:11

We were living the life on that train.

Josh 4:14

Only if business class flights cost$30 to upgrade. Oh my

Brit 4:20

gosh. Hey, if any, any, um, airlines wanna sponsor us. You know, you can do that. We'll accept that. Totally.

Josh 4:29

Absolutely. Give us, give us at least some economy plus seats, at least this, uh, economy, traveling, you know, it's nice on the pocketbooks, but for, for this 30-year-old back, you know, it's been rough since we've been back. We've already, we've been back five days and we've already gone to three yoga classes.

Brit 4:48

Yeah.

Josh 4:48

And my back is just getting back into the way it's supposed to be.

Brit 4:52

Oh, mine is not. Mine is so off. It's bad.

Josh 4:57

but we did get to do some yoga while we were in Graz.

Brit 5:00

We did.

Josh 5:00

Yep. We went to hotspot Yoga and Graz.

Brit 5:04

Yes, yes.

Josh 5:04

Oh my gosh.

Brit 5:05

Hotspot was amazing. I really loved it. Mm-hmm. However. It was much hotter than we were used to. So, um, they did the Bikram series. Mm-hmm. And we did Hot 90, so it was, uh, 26 poses, and you go through them twice and it starts out in a room that is 104 degrees with a humidifier.

Josh 5:29

Yeah.

Brit 5:30

And it was really hot.

Josh 5:31

Mm-hmm.

Brit 5:32

It was, yeah.

Josh 5:33

It was much warmer than we're used to. Our, um, yoga three that we do here in Neenah, Wisconsin starts out at like 94, 95, sometimes 96, but right in that range. And then it gets hotter from there. But, you know, just up to like 1 0 2, 1 0 3 max usually, and it's dry heat. You know, they, they have a dehumidifier going sometimes if it's too humid in there.

Brit 6:00

Yeah.

Josh 6:01

But this, like you said, 104 degrees humidifier, we walked in and we both just looked at each other like, oh no.

Brit 6:09

But we did it twice while we were there. Did, I was proud of us for, for going back mm-hmm. A second time. Even though the first time was so fucking hot.

Josh 6:17

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, and we had had a break through Augsburg where we didn't do any yoga and we were just kind of getting over a little bit of like a flu sickness thing and we were both still suffering from that a little bit in Graz.

Brit 6:34

Yeah.

Josh 6:34

So it definitely, I mean, physically helped.

Brit 6:37

Oh, for sure.

Josh 6:38

Both, I mean, the sickness and our bodies. So

Brit 6:41

I definitely felt that I needed to sweat and boy did I sweat.

Josh 6:46

Oh my goodness. Yeah. It's. Doing yoga in a different country was such a new experience for us.

Brit 6:57

Yeah. It was really terrifying at times. but also I think we grew within our yoga practice by doing this. Mm-hmm. Because we are so used to our routine mm-hmm. The classes that we go to, the instructors that we take, and to do something that is so out of your comfort zone.

Josh 7:19

Mm-hmm.

Brit 7:20

Like yoga in another country. I mean, we grew a lot in it and we did different things in the yoga classes than what we usually do, so,

Josh 7:29

yeah. Yeah. Totally agree. I mean, I'm definitely not stronger coming back. You and me have talked our first couple days back we're like, oh man. cause we're typically three, four days a week. Consistently when we're here at home and there, you know, we were only able to get two times throughout the trip, except in Germany and both of us are like, oh man, gotta get these muscles going again. So that was, that was a fun part of Austria was doing the yoga there. But, uh, as far as Graz overall, when we first got there, uh, we were talking about the train, took the train in the tram system. We came, if you listen to the Augsburg Germany episode there, their public transportation kind of wonky. Everyone says it's underfunded that they need a bunch of. New systems put in place.'cause it's hard to navigate. Everything's always running behind. Everything's always breaking down. But in Austria

Brit 8:27

Yeah,

Josh 8:27

it's clockwork. It is going.

Brit 8:30

It's so quick.

Josh 8:31

Oh, it's amazing.

Brit 8:32

Yeah. I really appreciated the, uh, public transportation in Austria for sure. And from Graz to Vienna, it was just so easy.

Josh 8:43

Mm-hmm.

Brit 8:43

Every train we took was so easy. I mean, we only took a couple in Austria in general, but even the tram that was super easy. We bought a, a week long, uh, pass to be able to use the trams. Mm-hmm. And we just hopped on and hopped off whenever we wanted. Like it was just, it was really easy. Yeah. We still did walk a lot and I would say that Graz. Is very walkable.

Josh 9:10

Mm-hmm.

Brit 9:11

Um, but if you wanna go outside of the city center and kind of explore outside of those areas mm-hmm. You might wanna hop on a tram.

Josh 9:19

Yeah, for sure. And I mean, where we stayed in our Airbnb. We were in. The center of Old Town. Yeah.

Brit 9:28

We were,

Josh 9:28

we could not have been any more center of the old town. It was

Brit 9:31

prime location.

Josh 9:32

It was perfect. And it was the cheapest Airbnb we stayed in, which is insane.

Brit 9:38

That's so wild. Yeah. I don't understand that. But I mean, it worked out really well. Mm-hmm. It felt like a nice Airbnb, it felt safe, it felt, you know, it wasn't too hot or too cold. We could just open the windows. Mm-hmm. Like, it, it was very easy to navigate how to get there, like

Josh 9:55

mm-hmm.

Brit 9:55

Just

Josh 9:56

the, the one tram stop was like a hundred yards maybe from the door Yeah. Of the Airbnb. So, and like we already said, that was super easy. we did go out of, uh, old Town, uh, twice I think with the tram. we went to, uh, Eggenberg Castle, which is just a short. Tram ride and then a little walk down a road.

Brit 10:21

That was a beautiful castle.

Josh 10:23

Oh my gosh. And we went on a, like an off day, I think it was Monday. And so they had an exhibit going that wasn't open, but, uh, so, but we still got to walk around.

Brit 10:34

Mm-hmm.

Josh 10:35

The castle inside and then around the grounds

Brit 10:38

and the gardens.

Josh 10:39

Yeah.

Brit 10:39

We saw a peacock.

Josh 10:41

Yeah. They have apparently a couple,

Brit 10:45

apparently I've never been on live television before

Josh 10:49

that has to stay in now. Um, they have at least one, maybe multiple free roaming peacocks that live on the grounds of Eggenberg Castle. And we didn't see one of'em until we were about to leave. And we looked over and it was this massive bird just walking down this path and we're like. What is that? And then you said, you're like, oh, that's a peacock. I was like, are they wild in Austria? And so we had to quick look it up on Google and no, it, it says, you know, that there's a, a couple that are, open living, free living on the grounds there.

Brit 11:29

Oh my gosh. It was so beautiful though. Mm-hmm. And the entire, like, garden area was stunning. Mm-hmm. I, I really appreciated being able to just like, go through the gardens and the castle, even when the exhibit wasn't running

Josh 11:43

right.

Brit 11:44

It was really cool to just like explore that area.

Josh 11:47

And it's right on. The foot of the mountains and the hills, right? Mm-hmm. Behind it. So it's a absolutely gorgeous backdrop. You and me kept on comparing it to, uh, some places that we had been in Colorado and Oh

Brit 12:05

yeah. It really felt like that. Mm-hmm.

Josh 12:07

Mm-hmm. And we especially thought it was like old town, kind of had the vibes of Aspen.

Brit 12:14

Oh yeah.

Josh 12:15

Little

Brit 12:16

bit. It,

Josh 12:17

it, it had a lot of shopping centers, right around where we were and this kind of upscale, bougie sort of feel

Brit 12:27

mm-hmm.

Josh 12:27

To it. but we didn't feel at all. Like we were priced out of the area.

Brit 12:32

No, no. I would actually say the opposite. Mm-hmm. I think that it was very affordable. Like Oh, extremely. Our meals were very afford affordable. We had a couple that were outliers of that for sure. Mm-hmm. Like we, uh, we went to Miss Cho.

Josh 12:48

Mm-hmm.

Brit 12:49

And we had the, what was it, six course meal, no. Four course meal with wine. Wine pairings mm-hmm. For each of us. And it was really delicious.

Josh 13:00

Yeah.

Brit 13:00

Also very expensive, but it was like, it was our last dinner in Europe.

Josh 13:07

Mm-hmm.

Brit 13:07

You know, before we were leaving

Josh 13:09

Yeah.

Brit 13:09

For this whole trip. Mm-hmm. So we were like, let's go do something special.

Josh 13:12

Yeah.

Brit 13:13

Um, so it was a really nice place. I loved it. There. We got,

Josh 13:18

that was delicious. Yeah.

Brit 13:20

there was a cucumber salad. That was really good.

Josh 13:22

Fantastic. Yep.

Brit 13:23

The sushi. We got two sushi rolls.

Josh 13:26

Mm-hmm.

Brit 13:27

Uh, the fish and then there was the matcha dessert.

Josh 13:31

Yes.

Brit 13:32

Ugh. So good.

Josh 13:34

Delicious.

Brit 13:35

Definitely recommend going here if you want like a special kind of meal.

Josh 13:39

would you say Ms. Cho was your favorite restaurant when, while we were in Gratz?

Brit 13:45

No, actually.

Josh 13:47

Oh, okay. What was your favorite?

Brit 13:48

my favorite was a restaurant that I am not going to try and pronounce. I will spell it. It's really long though. A-L-T-S-T-E-I-R-I-S C-H-E-S-C-H-M-A-N-K-E-R-L-S-T-U-B dash n. Have no idea how to pronounce that.

Josh 14:14

It's, it's on, it's on the website already in the Gratz, Austria section. So,

Brit 14:18

but this was an incredible meal. Mm-hmm. We needed something that night really comforting, and it was,

Josh 14:26

yeah.

Brit 14:27

we got this pumpkin soup. I cannot even give words to how delicious this soup was. Mm-hmm. I mean, I'm looking at the picture of it, and it doesn't even, it doesn't do it justice. It is, it's so good. It has balsamic vinegar on top. Mm-hmm. It has, uh. I would assume like day old bread that they toasted, as like croutons in it.

Josh 14:52

Mm-hmm.

Brit 14:53

Um, it has the creamiest pumpkin base that I have ever tasted in my life. It was so delicious.

Josh 15:03

Super savory. uh, maybe just a hint of sweetness from the pumpkin. It was like you said, so comforting, so delicious. And this was our first, uh, schnitzel that we had had. Oh

Brit 15:17

yeah.

Josh 15:17

Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Brit 15:18

It was.

Josh 15:19

That was delicious. Came with like a cranberry sauce where when you paired that with drizzling, a little bit of lemon on it.

Brit 15:26

Mm-hmm.

Josh 15:26

And it came with some, uh, poached potatoes, I believe.

Brit 15:30

Oh, that was so good.

Josh 15:31

It was such a incredible pairing. And then, um, what is the, the other main dish we had with it,

Brit 15:36

we got, uh, we also got the, the stew.

Josh 15:40

Mm-hmm.

Brit 15:41

And it was with a stuffing kind of

Josh 15:44

Yeah.

Brit 15:44

Ball.

Josh 15:45

Yep.

Brit 15:45

A ball of stuffing.

Josh 15:47

Yep.

Brit 15:47

So delicious. All of it. Every single part of it was so good. Mm-hmm. I think the apple strudel, I had a, I had a stem

Josh 15:57

Oh yeah.

Brit 15:57

In one of my bites. Mm-hmm. So. That. I dunno, that's probably a one off thing, but it wasn't my favorite Apple strudel that we had, but the rest of it was insanely good. Like you, if you're going to Graz, you have to go here. It's so delicious. Yeah. And get the pumpkin soup, that's a must.

Josh 16:17

You, you did want pumpkin soup, uh, frequently after we had it there. You you were like, oh my gosh, this is amazing.

Brit 16:24

Well, and its everywhere. Mm-hmm. It's everywhere. But none of the pumpkin soup that we had was as good as this one.

Josh 16:31

Yeah. fair enough. Where was your, uh, what was your best coffee?

Brit 16:35

Ooh, the best coffee was, cafe Koenig. Hmm. That place was right by our Airbnb. It was literally right next door, and it was delicious. It was so good. I keep saying everything's so good again. But anyways, what was your favorite meal?

Josh 16:54

Oh, man, I, it was another place where we had so many good meals, I'm, I'm gonna have to, I'm gonna have to name two for you.

Brit 17:04

Okay.

Josh 17:05

Uh, the first one is going to be the. The Tega Cafe, I, I'm sure I'm saying that wrong, so I'm gonna spell that out. But it's F-R-E-I-B-L-I-C-K and then it's T-A-G-E-S-C-A-F-E. So it's, to get to it, you have to go inside of a shopping center and then take escalators all the way to the roof. And then they have a big outdoor seating patio and it's stunning view. Uh, we got pictures and videos up there.

Brit 17:42

Oh my gosh. It's so beautiful.

Josh 17:44

Gorgeous. And we went up there twice, once for kind of. A little after lunch and one for more of a, a brunch meal.

Brit 17:55

Mm-hmm.

Josh 17:55

Um, everything we had there was fantastic. I would say my favorite was we had this wrap that was kind of like a curry curry wrap sort of thing. That was amazing. And then for brunch, you had ordered some french toast.

Brit 18:13

Oh my gosh. You have to get this french toast. It was amazing.

Josh 18:17

Those slabs were,

Brit 18:20

they were thick, they were thick cuts of bread, and then they were just. They were caramelized, they were so sweet. Mm-hmm. They had a, it was a vanilla mousse

Josh 18:34

mm-hmm.

Brit 18:35

On the side to dip it in. Mm-hmm. And then a strawberry jam.

Josh 18:39

Yeah.

Brit 18:39

Incredible.

Josh 18:40

Yeah.

Brit 18:41

Best thing there, in my opinion, that we had,

Josh 18:45

it was fantastic. You had ordered that, I had ordered, um, kinda like a, a Hollands sort of open breakfast sandwich thing, I believe, which was also delicious. But we went, havsies, and so I got to have your french toast as well, and yeah, that was fantastic. I took the, the strawberry jam and mixed it in with the mm-hmm. The vanilla dunked man. Mm-hmm. Stuffed my face. It was fantastic. But that, that'd be my first one and my second one that I. Would say was, uh, Gosser Brau.

Brit 19:21

Ooh, yes.

Josh 19:22

Yep. Um, it is a brewery, a local brewery in Graz, Austria. Um, very well known, big producers of Austrian beer. And we had there some barbecue ribs with cole slaw and fries, which were

Brit 19:44

mm-hmm.

Josh 19:44

Delicious. And then you ordered some chicken, which came in this massive

Brit 19:51

bucket. No, I ordered a salad and it said a chicken tender salad. Now when I. Think of a chicken tender salad. I think of, you know, greens a dressing. Mm-hmm. You know, maybe some salad stuff, fixins. Mm-hmm. And a couple chicken tenders. No, these chicken tenders were huge.

Josh 20:09

Mm-hmm.

Brit 20:10

And then the salad had like beans and like potatoes. Mm-hmm. And a lot of really hearty kind of ingredients.

Josh 20:20

Yeah.

Brit 20:20

That like, I did not expect it was delicious. I would order it again. Mm-hmm. However, I just didn't expect it. And then we went, halvsies these and the ribs. So good.

Josh 20:32

Yeah.

Brit 20:33

Very good. Yeah. Yeah.

Josh 20:34

And then with that, we had, uh, a couple different beers, which were all delicious. They also had some schnapps

Brit 20:43

Oh God.

Josh 20:44

Which we, we had seen, they were kind of at this big container behind the bar and we mm-hmm. Like, what's that? And so we kind of googled it, found out that they. Do their own schnapps there. And it's kind of used as a, a digestive similar to like a lemon cello in Italy. And we're like, oh, maybe we'll do that. But we had actually booked a table and we got there a little early. They didn't have it ready for us. We said, okay, we'll just set the bar. And we went through pretty much the whole meal at the bar, which was totally fine with us.

Brit 21:16

Mm-hmm.

Josh 21:17

And then the waitress was like, oh my gosh, table's available. And we're like, ah, this is fine. This is what we're used to.

Brit 21:22

Yeah.

Josh 21:23

And so then she brought us a, a couple shots of the schnapps and we tried that and.

Brit 21:30

It was like moonshine. It was so fucking strong. I gave you most of mine. Mm-hmm. Because I couldn't do it, but my gosh, I took like, maybe a couple sips and I was feeling it immediately after. Yeah.

Josh 21:45

It's a big thing for schnapps in Austria.

Brit 21:50

Mm-hmm.

Josh 21:50

So, uh, glad we got to experience that. And then we had this triple layer chocolate mousse dessert, which was really nice. It came in this little mason jar, half mason jar sort of thing. Um, that was really nice, but it was a lot of food. Mm-hmm. And it, and just filled us right up. Like you said, you're. Salad that you ordered. We split everything here. That salad you ordered was so hardy and I took a few bites of the potatoes and chicken, and I was stuffed after those ribs and fries as well, as well as the beer, which was amazing. I thought there was a lot of really good beer here. There was a lot of really good drinks.

Brit 22:30

There was so much good beer. Yeah. Mm-hmm. We also went to another brewery at the end. It was Glock Brau, G-L-O-C-K-L Brau. And that was really delicious as well.

Josh 22:46

Mm-hmm.

Brit 22:47

We did get a pumpkin soup there. Definitely wasn't as good as the other one, but I was just obsessed with the other one, so.

Josh 22:54

Mm.

Brit 22:54

Maybe I had poor judgment. I don't know. You had the lentil bowl. Mm-hmm. It was a curry lentil bowl.

Josh 23:00

Mm-hmm.

Brit 23:01

And that was really delicious.

Josh 23:02

Yeah.

Brit 23:03

Very spice forward. Mm-hmm. If I'm remembering correctly. And then I had the roast beef. Was it roast beef?

Josh 23:10

Um, was it No. Wasn't it duck?

Brit 23:13

No, I would never order duck. I would never order roast beef though. So I don't know what I was thinking.

Josh 23:18

I can't remember exactly what it was, but it was pretty decent.

Brit 23:21

Yeah. I mean, I liked gosser brau more.

Josh 23:24

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Same, same. Uh, that place was a little more, it seemed kinda tourist driven. Yeah. The waiters were wearing lederhosen and kind of traditional clothing, which is fine. but we just, we didn't see that anywhere else.

Brit 23:43

Yeah.

Josh 23:43

So. It just felt a little more touristy, we also, I wanna mention, we intentionally went to a place that was on the Michelin Guide. We did. Sometimes we accidentally go to places that are super high end, This time we intentionally went here.

Brit 24:05

Yeah.

Josh 24:05

We booked a table ahead of time and went, uh, it was supposed to be really good food for the price. Uh, I'm gonna spell out M-O-H-R-E-N-W-I-R-T. And we had some stew there, uh, fried chicken that came. In like a KFC, sort of like 12 piece basket. It wasn't 12 pieces, but it was,

Brit 24:31

it was a lot,

Josh 24:32

it was a lot of chicken.

Brit 24:34

I didn't realize how much chicken it was gonna be, and it also said roasted chicken.

Josh 24:38

Mm-hmm.

Brit 24:39

Um, so I thought we were gonna get like not deep fried chicken. Yeah. But we, it, it was deep fried. It was still amazing.

Josh 24:47

Mm-hmm.

Brit 24:47

Uh, I just didn't know what I was ordering. Yeah. And then we got the apple strudel there.

Josh 24:51

Mm-hmm.

Brit 24:52

That was an incredible apple

Josh 24:53

strudel. That was a really good apple strudel.

Brit 24:55

Yeah.

Josh 24:56

Um, the stew was fantastic. Yeah. Overall really good. And that was, I would say inexpensive for

Brit 25:07

Yeah.

Josh 25:07

A Michelin guide rated restaurant. And it was, I think for the two of us with drinks with the dessert was 70 euro maybe, I think, if I'm remembering correctly.

Brit 25:19

Yeah.

Josh 25:19

So we did go. For like late lunch, I think we were there like at four o'clock. Mm-hmm. If I remember correctly. So a late lunch service, but still very good. Um,

Brit 25:32

I think every meal we had here was so delicious. I don't think we, we missed. Any of them on any of them. We also went to a pink elephant.

Josh 25:43

Mm-hmm.

Brit 25:43

That was such a fun vibe. They had a part of their restaurant on the street almost. Mm-hmm. with umbrellas and, kind of like a porch area, but it was on the street. And, that's where we sat. So we were outside. It was a little cold, and I should have worn warmer clothes that is on me. but we got a vegan burrito and a vegan taco there. It's not all vegan, but they have vegan options. And we were just done with meat for the day, so we were like, we're gonna order some veggies.

Josh 26:18

Mm-hmm.

Brit 26:18

And it was amazing. That taco I had was incredible.

Josh 26:22

Delicious. Delicious. Yeah.

Brit 26:24

And then we got the Churro sticks.

Josh 26:26

Mm-hmm. Churro sticks with chocolate drizzle that dunk'em in. And it also had a bunch of, uh, fruit around the plate with some caramel drizzled over that.

Brit 26:37

Oh yeah.

Josh 26:37

That was delicious.

Brit 26:39

Who doesn't love churro sticks? Do we call'em churro sticks or churros?

Josh 26:43

I don't know. I think churros.

Brit 26:45

Churros.

Josh 26:45

Yeah.

Brit 26:46

Yeah, they were good.

Josh 26:48

I don't want us to skip over this and I don't wanna forget, but we also were fortunate enough to be surrounded with great chocolate again in Austria. Mm-hmm.

Brit 27:01

Yes. I did not realize that Austria had such a strong chocolate game.

Josh 27:08

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, after Belgium I was like, this is, and obviously. Two completely different countries with the different strengths of chocolate, but

Brit 27:18

mm-hmm.

Josh 27:18

Uh, we did a little research just Googling and you know, Belgium is very well known for their dark chocolate and their purity of chocolate, where Austria apparently is very well known for their fillings inside of chocolate. Mm-hmm. So we had several little bites of chocolate throughout our time there.

Brit 27:44

Yeah.

Josh 27:44

Mm-hmm.

Brit 27:45

Yeah. We went back to the place around the corner of our Airbnb like three times while we were there.

Josh 27:51

Yeah.

Brit 27:52

We did get some for friends and family while we were there. So not all of it was for us, but a lot of it was, it,

Josh 27:58

it was just so good and it was. Convenient. You know,

Brit 28:03

Eckerds chocolate is where we went. Mm. Incredible. Oh my gosh. I am already missing all of this food. How could you not?

Josh 28:14

Yeah, yeah.

Brit 28:15

Is there any, are there any places that we are missing that you feel like you want to talk about?

Josh 28:21

Man, I mean, like you said, we really didn't miss, I mean, some good coffee, some good wine.

Brit 28:29

Oh, the wine there. Yes. We went to a couple different wine bars. Mm-hmm. And, uh, we kind of made it a point to try Sauvignon Blanc that was made in Austria, because there is a region in Austria and we were actually in that region. Mm-hmm. Uh, the Syrian region, I believe. Yep. It's called.

Josh 28:49

Yeah.

Brit 28:50

Um, and this region is known for their Sauvignon Blanc. Mm-hmm. And it was delicious. I love a good Sauvignon Blanc,

Josh 28:59

Yeah, it was really good. We were hoping to go to, there was like a wine festival to the south of Graz while we were there that we were hoping to go to. But I was feeling under the weather, getting over kind of like a chest cold, and it was going to be kind of a difficult day to travel. Being that we would have to take a train and then a bus, and then another train and some walking, and it's just not something that I was feeling up for. And that kind of unfortunately took us out of a few things that we wanted to do. But, uh,

Brit 29:34

but that's okay. I think, I think when we travel, we have to listen to each other and we cannot just push through those things if we feel like we can't do it. Yeah. You know? Mm-hmm. Like, I would never want you to push through that and then make yourself so sick that like you can't do anything.

Josh 29:55

Mm-hmm.

Brit 29:56

You know, if you need rest, you need rest. I'm not gonna be. Somebody that's like, no, you gotta walk 10,000 steps. Hike up this mountain with me. No, speaking of hiking up a mountain though.

Josh 30:10

Mm-hmm.

Brit 30:11

So we didn't hike up, but you can go up the stairs of the mountain in Graz.

Josh 30:18

Mm-hmm.

Brit 30:18

Uh,

Josh 30:19

Schlossberg.

Brit 30:20

Yes.

Josh 30:21

Mm-hmm.

Brit 30:22

That was so cool. Yeah. Going up there. So we actually took the elevator.

Josh 30:27

Mm-hmm.

Brit 30:27

Because, um, why would you take the stairs when you can take the elevator all the way up a mountain?

Josh 30:34

Plus it was like two euros. And we also then bought for another three Euros a. Slide pass

Brit 30:44

to

Josh 30:44

come down. Oh

Brit 30:44

my gosh.

Josh 30:45

So we were just like, ah, we'll just do this

Brit 30:47

this whole time we're exploring on, on top. And I am terrified of sliding down because it looks scary.

Josh 30:56

Mm-hmm.

Brit 30:57

It is such a long slide.

Josh 30:59

It is. It is. When we came down, you went first and it has a timer going and it's over 30 seconds for sure. It, yeah. Oh my gosh. And usually you're kind of like, woo. But you were dead silent.

Brit 31:14

I was scared,

Josh 31:15

but as soon as I started going down, I got a little bit of a head rush. So I was giggling the whole way. I was,

Brit 31:20

oh my gosh. You were giggling so hard. It was so funny listening to you. It was so funny. No, that slide was fun though.

Josh 31:27

Mm-hmm.

Brit 31:28

I would recommend that.

Josh 31:29

But, uh, all of, uh, schlossberg. Was cool to walk around up there. Um, there were some old castle ruins up there. Mm-hmm. I think there used to be a prison up there. It was, uh, turned into a prison. So there was kind of old prison ruins up there. There's the clock tower. Uh, we went into the, I think it's a Schlossberg or Graz museum.

Brit 31:57

Yeah.

Josh 31:57

That's up there that we went into, which was really fun to go through.

Brit 32:01

Mm-hmm.

Josh 32:01

Um, and very informative. They had kind of like a, a screen playing history of, uh, Schlossberg the mountain or the Hill.

Brit 32:10

Yeah. That was fun. Mm-hmm. I think traveling is turning us into museum people. I know. I've never been a museum person, but Yeah. It was really fun.

Josh 32:22

It was fun. I mean, it helped though that while we were walking up there was like a restaurant and an open seating deck that served, uh, different drinks. So we had a beer and some water and we sat on the deck and looked over the viewpoint of Graz, which was stunning. Amazing.

Brit 32:42

Absolutely beautiful. I mean, when you say deck, it is, you're on top of a fricking mountain.

Josh 32:48

Mm-hmm.

Brit 32:48

You're looking over and you're seeing all of Graz.

Josh 32:52

Yeah.

Brit 32:53

It's absolutely stunning.

Josh 32:56

Yeah. Yeah. Highly recommend if you go to Graz that you gotta go up there and

Brit 33:01

For sure.

Josh 33:02

I mean, if you're hiking up, that's totally fine. I don't know if you can buy, because we bought the. The slide tickets at the bottom. I assume there's a place that you can buy'em up top, but we bought'em at the bottom. So

Brit 33:17

maybe it's free if you hike up. I dunno.

Josh 33:20

No, it's not free.

Brit 33:21

I don't know.

Josh 33:22

You, you have to buy tickets. Um, and I think in total we might have paid like 10 bucks for the ride up and the slide down. So our 10 euro, so not all that expensive, but a fun little 30 seconds to slide down.

Brit 33:35

But the museum I think was like five euro each

Josh 33:39

five or 10 euro each again.

Brit 33:40

Yeah.

Josh 33:41

Yeah. Not, not anything crazy expensive. And we

Brit 33:43

got everything. Everything else was like really easy to explore though.

Josh 33:46

Mm-hmm.

Brit 33:47

Yeah.

Josh 33:48

Yeah. but yeah, we did that. one day we just kind of walked around the base of. Schlosberg, which was fun. There's like on the opposite side of Old Town, there's just a big park.

Brit 34:02

Mm-hmm.

Josh 34:02

Kids and people playing and kind of more of the local living area that we got to see, which was pretty nice.

Brit 34:10

Yeah.

Josh 34:10

an area that when we were walking. Towards, um, the eggenberg castle after we got off the tram, it was such a nice little street with houses and apartments.

Brit 34:23

It was beautiful. Mm-hmm. And then the, it, there were fall leaves already. Mm-hmm. And it was absolutely beautiful. I could see us there for sure in that area. I was like, oh, I feel it a little more over here. Mm-hmm. I feel like, I mean, being so close to the city center too, like being so easy to get there, I was like, I love Graz in the middle with all of the history and all of that. But also when you're outside and like, by people's houses and like not touristy area. Yeah. It, it felt different.

Josh 34:58

Mm-hmm.

Brit 34:59

It felt like we were in Gilmore Girls.

Josh 35:02

Yeah, you did say that while we were there. It did. I mean'cause it in

Brit 35:06

the fall. Yeah.

Josh 35:07

In, in that street in particular, which I'm assuming by the way of setup kind of an expensive street to be on. Probably. But you know, the houses were spread out a little bit. Like you said, the trees were well manicured and they were changing colors. And then, uh, Eggenberg was at the end of the street with the mountain behind it, so it was very picturesque.

Brit 35:29

Beautiful.

Josh 35:30

Mm-hmm.

Brit 35:31

Very beautiful. We also went to, uh,

Josh 35:36

the Friendly Alien.

Brit 35:36

The Friendly Alien. Yes.

Josh 35:39

Don't know the official name for it.

Brit 35:41

No. But if you look up the friendly alien, the museum comes up.

Josh 35:44

It actually comes up. Yeah.

Brit 35:45

it's such a cute building.

Josh 35:46

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And we went in and went through the exhibit that was going on, and it was really emotionally kind of like uncomfortable in a good way that art can make you feel, you know, like some art's, happy, some are sad, like this was,

Brit 36:09

yeah. This had a lot of, uh, advocacy

Josh 36:12

mm-hmm.

Brit 36:13

Work within it. And it, it showed a lot of pain that people are currently going through, have gone through, um. A lot of like segregation, a lot of, uh, genocide stuff. A lot of, yeah. You know, a lot of advocacy

Josh 36:31

mm-hmm.

Brit 36:31

Uh, that this artist had created. It was really beautiful.

Josh 36:37

Right.

Brit 36:37

Uh, and really powerful.

Josh 36:40

Mm-hmm.

Brit 36:40

More emotionally triggering than I thought. What we were walking into.

Josh 36:45

Yeah.

Brit 36:45

I wasn't prepared definitely 10 outta 10 experience would recommend going back again. We are turning into museum people.

Josh 36:54

Another, uh, place. I think it basically right out the doors, there's a river and on the river through kind of like a walkway is, it's in English called, Mer Island. And it's this little floating platform that they have out there. Yeah, it's a little cafe. You can get some drinks, some snacks, some ice cream. And I mean,'cause of all the walking we did, we just walked across it one day. Really nice day. Sun was out, took some pictures, grabbed the uh, Coke, zero, some ice cream, some water, and just sat out there for a little bit. Yeah. Yeah.

Brit 37:33

That was so nice.

Josh 37:34

Mm-hmm. You can have a lot of really. Nice days in Graz as kind of like a tourist, you know?

Brit 37:42

Yeah.

Josh 37:42

There's so much you can do, especially right in Old Town, there's a lot, you can get a lot done in a couple days'cause you don't have to go very far.

Brit 37:53

No, you do not. No. Mm-hmm. No, it's a really beautiful city and People were very kind there.

Josh 38:00

Mm-hmm.

Brit 38:01

Yeah.

Josh 38:01

Yeah. Yeah. We didn't run into any trouble with anything, so.

Brit 38:05

I think that Graz checked a lot of boxes for us.

Josh 38:09

Mm-hmm.

Brit 38:09

And I don't know that it cracked into my top three.

Josh 38:12

Yeah. I agree with that. Yeah. I

Brit 38:15

mean, it was beautiful. It was stunning. I loved it. Mm-hmm. I loved being there. The food, the culture, the wine, the beer, the views.

Josh 38:26

Mm-hmm.

Brit 38:26

Mm-hmm. The exploration. It was, it was really cool. It was really fun. Um, but I don't know if I could see us there long term.

Josh 38:36

Yeah, yeah. No, I agree with that. Um, you know, the mountains always do something to me, so the, the ride in and then being around mountains the entire time always just feels like something so different and mm-hmm. So like exploring. But it just didn't have more than a really fun vacation for me and. We talked about it, and I think we're gonna do an episode kind of talking about changes to, to future trips that we're gonna have.

Brit 39:11

Yeah. I think, um, our next episode we'll be talking about, what those changes might be, and also a recap of this really long month, long trip mm-hmm. That we had. Mm-hmm. and just what we learned really about ourselves, about each other, about how we want to move forward with this pod, knowing that we're still really new with this. Right. Like, we're, we're just figuring this shit out, you know? So I, I think that's gonna be, next episode is us talking about that and, yeah, just trying to figure it out.

Josh 39:45

Yeah. Because it was. It was such an interesting way to end the trip in Graz. It was fantastic, a wonderful place, and each country we went to gave us something completely different, and Graz is just an amazing place for everyone to go visit.

Brit 40:04

I agree. I do think we did Graz a bit of a disservice by making it the last one of such a long trip.

Josh 40:12

Mm-hmm.

Brit 40:12

because at that point we were already so fatigued. We had been traveling for so long.

Josh 40:20

Mm-hmm.

Brit 40:20

I was thinking about my cats every single second, um, and could not wait to get home to them. I think on some level that was a disservice to Graz.

Josh 40:33

Yeah. I also think. Public transport, they're fantastic. You can get anywhere in Graz fairly easily and outside of Graz. But there were a couple things that we were looking at doing. I forget the name of the mountain, but you can go there and take a ski lift to the top. And

Brit 40:51

yeah,

Josh 40:51

it was like a little, um, play area up there and just beautiful views and stuff. And to get there by public transport seemed to be a little bit more challenging. It involved a train, bus and tram from our location. So just kind of many modes of public transport, that just seemed a little difficult. So there's that. we've driven through the mountains in the United States and driving through mountains is. A whole nother experience

Brit 41:23

mm-hmm.

Josh 41:24

Than going on a train.

Brit 41:26

Mm-hmm.

Josh 41:27

And I would guess that being able to drive through the mountains that we went through on the train would be a life-changing experience.

Brit 41:39

Oh yeah. Those mountains were stunning. Yeah. And we just caught like a glimpse of them on the train. Mm-hmm. Like we did get some good videos of them. Mm-hmm. But they were beautiful. Yeah. And to be able to go around them maybe a little bit more would be so cool. Yeah. That would be a life changing trip. It would,

Josh 41:59

like you, I'm guessing you would rent a car and every mile you'd probably pull off to a stop and Yeah. You know, just be like,

Brit 42:07

like we did in Scotland.

Josh 42:08

Exactly. In Scotland when we were driving through Colorado. just stop and. Like, oh my gosh. Like, look at this, and you know that that could be a whole game changer for the, the country, for the trip. I mean that, that can be said probably for pretty much any country.

Brit 42:28

Oh, for sure. Mm-hmm. I would definitely go back to Austria.

Josh 42:32

Mm-hmm.

Brit 42:33

Yeah,

Josh 42:34

for

Brit 42:34

sure. Austria was so much fun.

Josh 42:36

Mm-hmm.

Brit 42:37

And it was beautiful. I think if we did go back, we would spend the sole amount of our time on the trip in Austria, so we, you know, had all of that energy just for Austria.

Josh 42:53

Oh, sure. I get what you're saying. Yeah,

Brit 42:55

yeah,

Josh 42:55

yeah. Absolutely. I could do, you know, week to week long driving trip through Austria. I think that would be pretty awesome.

Brit 43:03

Doesn't sound bad to me.

Josh 43:05

We were, we were going through on the train and all of a sudden a, a small little mountain town would pop up and we're like, I wanna know what's there. I wanna know what's in that little town. You know? I bet they have a bar that's just like. Looking straight up the mountain, like, yeah.

Brit 43:21

Yeah,

Josh 43:22

I bet that's cool.

Brit 43:23

Yeah.

Josh 43:24

So, and we got to do some of that in Graz, just, just like a little taster. I feel like that's what Graz is. It's called the, the taste of Austria some great food. But as far as all of Austria, especially the mountainous kind of middle southern part, it's just a little, just a little taster,

Brit 43:42

little taste of it.

Josh 43:44

Yeah.

Brit 43:44

I would wanna explore the Styrian region just a little bit more. Mm-hmm. To know, uh, the, the wineries, the vineyards, the, uh, the grapes that are grown there. Mm-hmm. And more of the wine.

Josh 43:58

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, we had, when we looked at going to some of those festivals, there's some places not to, uh. Far south. Gamlitz I'm pretty sure is one that had a festival going on. Mm. Uh, Lebinitz, they got some hotels there that do a wine taxi that I saw where you can book the hotel there. And then there's a company or an app that you can go on. It's a wine taxi. They take you from, you can get the wine taxi from wine right away. Oh my gosh. It's kind of like Uber, like you have to pay for it as far as like, I know, but I mean that's,

Brit 44:36

but it's specifically made for people who are going to vineyards. Mm-hmm. That's so fun. Mm-hmm. Wait, we're doing something similar when we go to New Zealand, aren't we? We're taking like a, a van on like a vineyard tour.

Josh 44:50

Oh, yeah.

Brit 44:51

That's gonna be fun. Maybe after that we'll have to go back to Austria and see which one is better.

Josh 44:57

Yeah, I mean, I'm down, I'm, I'm just pulling up the, the map of it again and I'm like, man, there is, gosh, there's so much.

Brit 45:06

There's so much. And we have so many other places that we wanna go see too. Mm-hmm. So,

Josh 45:13

yeah.

Brit 45:14

So we gotta pace ourselves.

Josh 45:15

Yeah. Oh, I just wanna go to them all right now.

Brit 45:18

I know. Me too. We gotta spend some time with cats first.

Josh 45:21

That's true. Gosh, they're, they're being good now. They were a little noisy before they

Brit 45:25

pour themselves out. They did. They were meowing so loud. I was like, you guys are gonna have no energy left. Anything else that you feel like we should talk about in this episode about Graz?

Josh 45:38

I mean, just to kind of recap it in general, we've both said that, you know, it's not gonna break our top three. It would definitely need to have a lot more in-person research done for us to crack that top three.

Brit 45:53

Yeah.

Josh 45:54

There's really nothing, again, that a place that really does not not check boxes for us.

Brit 46:02

Yeah.

Josh 46:03

You know, as, as far as we know, it's the only place that we didn't get to go into a, uh, grocery store on this trip. So, as far as costs of. you know, groceries, we're not a hundred percent sure.

Brit 46:18

Mm-hmm.

Josh 46:19

Uh, what that's like. We saw plenty of students walking around. We went right by a university, uh, on one of our little tram rides once, so we, yeah. and I'm pretty sure I looked it up, but they got some pretty good education around there. Mm-hmm. with the trains, it's well connected to a lot of places. Graz is not small. If you look on a map, you might think Graz in general, it might look small. It's not small.

Brit 46:46

Mm-hmm.

Josh 46:46

There's a lot of people there. A lot of stuff going on. So, um, not sure as far as what work is like there.

Brit 46:55

Mm-hmm.

Josh 46:56

so there's, there's just a lot of, a lot of things that we didn't. We didn't get to experience or look into, I think in our short, our short stint there, that would need more, um, more attention.

Brit 47:09

Yeah. We also didn't really look into healthcare or cost of living like the big picture. Mm-hmm.

Josh 47:16

At

Brit 47:16

all. Mm-hmm. Uh, water, however, is very safe to drink there.

Josh 47:21

Mm-hmm.

Brit 47:21

really good water. I think as far as the climate and environment, we talked with someone, who was it? There was, uh, when we were entering the museum mm-hmm. There was the guy who was taking our tickets. Mm-hmm. And he had told us that. When he was a kid, there used to be snow up to his knees

Josh 47:44

mm-hmm.

Brit 47:44

Every year.

Josh 47:45

Mm-hmm.

Brit 47:46

And that over the past 20 years there's been light dustings of snow. Yeah.

Josh 47:51

Yeah.

Brit 47:52

Um,

Josh 47:53

yeah. Specifically in the last 10 years, he said it's been very rare to get a decent snow in Graz. Yeah. And he's like, I've lived here my whole life. So

Brit 48:02

climate change is hitting them hard.

Josh 48:04

Yeah.

Brit 48:04

It seems.

Josh 48:05

Mm-hmm.

Brit 48:06

but the climate while we were there, I think was really nice. Mm. It felt good. Um, it felt like a fall kind of weather.

Josh 48:15

Yeah.

Brit 48:16

Which we love. Mm-hmm. Uh, there was maybe one or two hotter days, but overall it was, it was really nice weather. Um, just climate change is, you know, really hitting them. I felt pretty safe while we were there. I didn't have any moments where I didn't feel safe. yeah, I mean, I think it checks a lot of our boxes and I think we would definitely need to do more in person research to know some of the things that we, we don't know.

Josh 48:48

Mm-hmm. exactly. As far as the point of this podcast is, you know, us looking for a place to potentially live in the future definitely needs that as far as a place that people can go and visit and vacation. A hundred percent do it.

Brit 49:03

Yeah.

Josh 49:04

Really easy to do. It's. Yeah, you can. I just downloaded the app on the train ride there, bought the, the week long unlimited pass.

Brit 49:14

Mm-hmm.

Josh 49:14

So that if you ever have a conductor or anything ask you about public transportation and the, the Graz area, you can just show'em the ticket right. On your, on your thing. And that was inexpensive. I think it was like 20 euros. So, and he said it was on time. It was so just

Brit 49:32

so easy. I think without you, I would feel so scared to use public transportation, but you take care of a lot of it for us. but also I've learned a lot of how to use public transportation through you. so if there's one thing I could say, it's. To not be afraid mm-hmm. To try it.

Josh 49:54

Mm-hmm.

Brit 49:55

Uh, you might make mistakes.

Josh 49:56

Mm-hmm.

Brit 49:57

You know, uh, we all are gonna make those. However, I think that public transportation is made for people to use it. And whether that's, you know, tourists or people who live there, it doesn't matter. It's for everyone that is there. So use it.

Josh 50:18

That, that is something about Graz. It felt very, uh. People friendly.

Brit 50:24

It did,

Josh 50:24

it built for people to get around, easily built for, you know, students to get to where they need to go. All again, Graz is massive and the trams went everywhere. We didn't get to explore everywhere, but they could easily go all the way to the south of Graz, north of Graz, east, west. They went everywhere.

Brit 50:43

Yeah.

Josh 50:43

Um, it just felt very accessible for people.

Brit 50:46

Mm-hmm.

Josh 50:47

and, you know, you didn't have to be constrained to a vehicle, it seemed.

Brit 50:53

yeah, I,

Josh 50:54

I love that about a place. and we had a couple places on this trip that felt like that. So I think, I think that's why too, I feel like a little bit extra for Graz is because it has that feeling.

Brit 51:07

I know a part of me might need to just like, let it digest a little bit more and maybe it will crack the top three. I don't know. Uh. Right now it doesn't, but I look back and I'm like, this was an incredible place. Like

Josh 51:22

incredible. Yeah.

Brit 51:23

How is it not in the top three? Yeah. You know, definitely top three vacation destinations

Josh 51:28

for sure. Yeah.

Brit 51:30

Right up there with Venice for me.

Josh 51:32

Yeah. Yeah,

Brit 51:33

yeah. Hmm.

Josh 51:35

Anything else you're thinking about, uh, you wanna mention, say anything?

Brit 51:39

I don't think so. I think this was a really nice trip. I'm happy to be home. Mm-hmm. Um, but I love that we went to Graz. I am really glad that we, we went here. Yeah.

Josh 51:52

Yeah. Same. It was a great part of the trip and mm-hmm. I. I can't wait to go back. If we get to do that,

Brit 52:00

we have to go back. Uh, like I previously said, the next episode will be about, the recap of this month long trip that we did just take, where we started in the Netherlands, then went to Belgium, Germany, and then Austria. So we're gonna just kind of recap that and talk about what we learned about ourselves, about each other, and what we might wanna be doing differently on the pod.

Josh 52:27

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Brit 52:55

Thank you so much for listening. We appreciate all of you, whether we know you or not. We really appreciate you for listening. please let us know if you have any comments or if you want us to travel somewhere and check a place out, do some in-person research somewhere else, we would be happy to do that. Just let us know where you want us to go. thank you so much again, and until next time.