Dream Destinations: Top 10 Spots We Can't Wait to Visit

Dream Destinations: Our Travel Bucket List (Santorini, Slovenia, Amalfi Coast, Poland, China, Taiwan, Switzerland, Colombia, Kenya & Norway)

Brittany and Josh shift from discussing moving abroad to sharing their dream travel destinations, starting with honorable mentions Portugal and Finland (planned for 2027 to see the Northern Lights). Brittany’s list includes Santorini, Greece (tours, classic blue-and-white stays with private pools, volcano hot springs, beach horseback riding), the Amalfi Coast, Italy (honeymoon plans, boat tours, snorkeling, pizza-making class, food and wine), China’s Hunan province (Avatar-like pillar mountains, the 999-step Heaven’s Gate climb, dumplings, cultural immersion), Switzerland (Bernese Oberland, paragliding, Swiss Alps hikes, cheese and chocolate tour), and Kenya (safari, hot air balloon over the Great Migration, giraffe hotel, sanctuaries, coffee farm and street food tours). Josh’s picks are Slovenia (Lake Bled, sustainability, trains, wines), Poland (Morskie Oko, Krakow, Christmas markets, fermented foods, Gdańsk), Taiwan (Sun Moon Lake, Taroko Gorge, boba, fireworks festival, progressive and safe), Colombia (nature diversity, coffee, empanadas, Medellín), and Norway (fjords, Trolltunga, seafood and wild game, microbreweries, safety and inclusivity).

00:00 Dream Trips Setup

00:36 Honorable Mentions

02:09 Santorini Greece

05:00 Slovenia Food Trains

07:34 Amalfi Coast Honeymoon

12:36 Poland Lakes Markets

16:06 China Avatar Mountains

21:02 Taiwan Food Sun Moon

23:24 Taiwan Taroko Gorge

24:00 Beehive Fireworks Festival

25:37 Switzerland Bucket List

26:51 Swiss Alps Adventures

29:27 Cheese and Chocolate Tour

30:43 Colombia Nature and Cities

32:07 Coffee and Food Highlights

33:46 Kenya Safari Dreams

39:03 Norway Fjords and Heritage

43:20 Wrap Up and Next Episode

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Transcript

brit 0:11

Hello and welcome to the We Should Move Here. Travels podcast. My name is Brittany.

josh 0:17

I'm Josh

brit 0:18

and we are your hosts. Today we are gonna be putting aside the idea of moving somewhere for the day, and we're gonna be talking about our dream destinations.

josh 0:32

Mm-hmm.

brit 0:32

just thinking about where we would love to go. Mm-hmm. we do have some honorable mentions to begin with. these honorable mentions are countries that we are already planning on going to, but they were, and would be in one of our dream destination spots. So, first one is Portugal. If you've been listening, you know how excited I am for Portugal. And then we also have a trip planned, well, not fully planned, but we know that we're gonna go because if you remember voting between Ireland and Finland, Ireland won.

josh 1:18

Mm-hmm.

brit 1:18

And we did not get to go to Finland. So Finland, we are going in 2027. Yeah, for sure. Yes. Because I would love to see the Northern Lights.

josh 1:31

Mm-hmm.

brit 1:32

I just think Finland would be really beautiful. So I'm excited.

josh 1:36

so excited for Portugal, like you said. And yeah, Finland. if Finland had won instead of Ireland would've been absolutely stoked. But Constellation Prize just going a year later.

brit 1:45

You know, I am still a little salty about that because I don't think the people that voted listened to the episode. So a little salty, but it's okay. We'll move, move past that.

josh 1:59

So since you're so salty, why don't you start us out. Give us your number five spot of places you wanna travel to.

brit 2:07

Okay. At number five, I have Santorini Greece.

josh 2:14

Mm. Yes.

brit 2:16

I have literally always wanted to go to Greece, and I know Santorini is such a tourist spot. However, there are also small communities within Santorini and right on the outer parts of it as well that I think we would really love.

josh 2:32

Sure.

brit 2:33

Um, there are boat, food and wine tours that we could do.

josh 2:39

Love it.

brit 2:40

Amazing. Yeah. It would be beautiful there.

josh 2:43

Mm-hmm.

brit 2:43

we could stay in a classic, you know, the like the blue and white clay buildings.

josh 2:49

Oh. The ones that you always see on TikTok and travel.

brit 2:52

Yeah. We could stay in one of those with our own private pool.

josh 2:57

Oh my goodness.

brit 2:58

Oh my God. I've looked at some of these and I'm like. We have to do this.

josh 3:04

I always think it's funny when places have a pool, private pool, and then you're right next to the ocean. So love it. I just think it's funny.

brit 3:13

I mean, it is kind of funny and ironic, but also you get to swim in it at all times. Mm-hmm. Like it doesn't close.

josh 3:21

Right.

brit 3:22

Doesn't have dangerous creatures in it like the ocean. Mm-hmm. And you can't see anything at night. So I wouldn't go swimming in the ocean at night.

josh 3:30

Plus you get to do all your handstands and back flips on a private pool.

brit 3:34

Honestly.

josh 3:34

Yeah.

brit 3:35

No one else except for you in there to hit with my legs. So don't have to worry about that.

josh 3:42

Hey, I understand it. Okay, so cool. Buildings with private pools. All right.

brit 3:48

there are also volcano hot springs near here.

josh 3:53

Is that just.

brit 3:55

It's just hot springs.

josh 3:56

Yeah.

brit 3:56

Yeah. So like, it's basically a natural hot tub.

josh 3:59

Okay.

brit 4:00

yeah, we did one in New Zealand.

josh 4:03

Oh, that was the Rotorua Hell's Gate.

brit 4:05

Yeah.

josh 4:05

Okay.

brit 4:06

The mineral baths. Okay. I don't know if it's exactly the same, but I think it's similar.

josh 4:10

Okay. just naturally heated water pools.

brit 4:13

Yeah.

josh 4:13

Okay.

brit 4:14

We could also horseback ride on the beach.

josh 4:18

Okay. That's definitely for you. 'cause horses scare me.

brit 4:22

Oh my God. You just have to meet the right horse. You haven't met the right one.

josh 4:26

I haven't met the one.

brit 4:27

Yeah. So, so those are just a couple of the things that I have found for Santorini. Okay. I feel like we have to go here at some point soon because I have been itching to go to Greece for years. Mm-hmm. Like it has been in my top five list for so many years. It used to be my number one.

josh 4:52

Mm-hmm.

brit 4:53

Until I started traveling more. It's been bumped a little bit, but What is your number five?

josh 5:00

My number five is Slovenia.

brit 5:03

Okay.

josh 5:04

Yes. I went deep diving in Google Maps, looking for places that were beautiful and had great food, like great kind of culture. this place, if you don't know where it is, it's kind of sandwiched between Italy, Austria-Hungary, and Croatia. It's a really small place and hmm. When I was researching it, it says that the culture and kind of the food scene is a combination of all of those. Mm-hmm. And that sounds amazing to me 'cause we've been to Austria. Love the food.

brit 5:40

Yeah.

josh 5:41

Been to Italy. Love the food. Like everyone,

brit 5:44

it's so good.

josh 5:44

And we haven't been to Hungary or Croatia, but we've talked about that. Mm-hmm. Can only imagine that. A combination of all that would be delicious. they're also really well known for their white wines.

brit 5:58

Ooh.

josh 5:58

As well as orange wines, which I know, I know we've had, but I'm not a hundred percent sure what an orange wine is.

brit 6:05

that sounds really fun.

josh 6:07

Yep. Led with the food scene kind of thing. Yeah. very sustainable and green country. They have, a city that is one of the largest, has one of the largest pedestrian only places in all of Europe. And they have fantastic trains. I love my trains.

brit 6:28

Okay.

josh 6:29

It is a place in Europe that is extremely naturally diverse. you get a little bit of a, everything was Slovenia or a good diversity of it, and if you want to look up something absolutely stunning, you can type in Lake Bled and look that up.

brit 6:49

Oh my gosh.

josh 6:51

Mm-hmm.

brit 6:52

That looks stunning. Gorgeous.

josh 6:55

That's what came up on when I was going through Google Maps, looking for cool places. I was like, oh, yeah.

brit 7:01

Oh, I bet there's a beautiful hike around there. Wow. That's, that's gorgeous. Love that. Okay.

josh 7:08

So great food, great scenery, trains, walkable. Seems like a place that you would go and be able to walk from place to place, grab a wine, grab some food. Very, very Italy esque, you know, very Venice esque,

brit 7:22

I love that.

josh 7:23

Mm-hmm.

brit 7:24

Okay. Well, you're really convincing me to add Slovenia onto, onto my list. Yes.

josh 7:31

Well, let's see if you can do the same. What's your number four?

brit 7:34

My number four. We are going to,

josh 7:39

are we what's here for

brit 7:40

Oh yeah. Oh, the am Mafi Coast. Mm-hmm. In Italy. Yeah. We have been to Italy, but we did mostly northern Italy.

josh 7:49

Yeah.

brit 7:49

loved it. it was stunning. Tuscany was gorgeous and some of the best wine we've ever tasted in our lives, probably. however, we did not make it to the Amalfi Coast. And for our honeymoon, we're planning to do a Southern Italy trip because this was our first. international adventure together.

josh 8:15

Mm-hmm.

brit 8:15

So we're gonna go back to where kind of this was started.

josh 8:20

Yeah.

brit 8:21

after we get married. So I think that's gonna be really beautiful. I did add it onto the list just because we did not start planning that part of our trip at all yet.

josh 8:33

Mm-hmm.

brit 8:34

And I really wanna go to the Amalfi Coast, so it is on my dream destination list.

josh 8:38

Okay. All for it. All for it. I think it's cheating to put place that we had planned for our honeymoon on here, but you know what, that's fine. We can

brit 8:51

do not cheating because we planned to go to Southern Italy. We did not plan to go to the Amalfi Coast.

josh 8:57

Mm.

brit 8:58

I mean, I think it's kind of a given, but this kind of solidifies that we have to go there, so. Hey, is it cheating?

josh 9:10

No. I'm okay with it. I'll allow it. I'll allow it.

brit 9:14

Okay.

josh 9:15

so besides the fact that it's for our honeymoon. Yeah.

brit 9:21

I think we could stay in Sorento. It's so beautiful. I mean, there's mountains, there's the ocean. It just looks so stunning.

josh 9:33

Mm-hmm.

brit 9:33

from there, there are several different boat tours that look really fun. I know what you're gonna say to this, but there's also snorkeling, which looks so fun and I've always wanted to do it.

josh 9:47

I could do it. I could do it. You could do

brit 9:48

it.

josh 9:48

I think I could do it. I think I would be very scared. But if we're doing it together, I'd be okay.

brit 9:55

Yeah. I mean, well, it's our honeymoon. We have to go snorkeling.

josh 9:59

Okay. Is that a requirement for honeymoons?

brit 10:02

It is, yeah.

josh 10:03

Oh,

brit 10:03

I don't know temperature wise, 'cause we're getting married in October, so I don't know if we'll be able to. Mm-hmm. Because it might be too cold.

josh 10:13

Yeah.

brit 10:13

So we'll talk about that and see what temperatures and stuff will be like.

josh 10:18

Sure.

brit 10:18

But that's an option. There's also a pizza making class.

josh 10:24

Oh, yay.

brit 10:25

That looks so fun. I think it went viral like a couple years ago on social media.

josh 10:31

Oh, is it the one where they're partying like crazy while,

brit 10:34

yeah.

josh 10:34

Okay.

brit 10:35

Yeah.

josh 10:35

Definitely seeing it. That looks fun.

brit 10:37

I think it's this one.

josh 10:38

Yeah. Okay. That looks fun.

brit 10:40

It does look fun.

josh 10:41

Mm-hmm.

brit 10:42

so it's basically like a pizza making class and a wine, wine tour, or like a drinking

josh 10:48

mm-hmm.

brit 10:49

Environment of some sort. there's tons of food and wine tours all over the place. I mean, you're in Italy.

josh 10:56

Gotta do it.

brit 10:57

It's to be expected. Mm-hmm. You're going to eat and you're gonna drink wine. That's what you do in Italy.

josh 11:04

Yeah. Look at the rolling hills.

brit 11:05

Yeah.

josh 11:06

Yeah.

brit 11:06

absolutely beautiful ocean views, of course. Just stunning. Mm-hmm. It kind of gives me from photos, kind of similar vibes from Santorini mm-hmm. Greece.

josh 11:18

Yeah.

brit 11:19

just because. The houses are kind of like stacked on top of each other like that. Mm-hmm. And, um, the rolling hills or mountains and the water's right there and it just, it kind of looks similar.

josh 11:32

Yeah.

brit 11:32

I don't know what it is about that look, but I just love it.

josh 11:35

I was gonna say, the way you're talking about these, back to back, you got boat tours, food tours, the stair step, places to stay up the hills. Oh

brit 11:44

my gosh.

josh 11:45

Don't tell me that. Don't tell me that. There's private, pool houses on this coast as well. Is there?

brit 11:51

Oh, there probably is, yeah. Probably not as famous as the ones in Santorini, but yeah.

josh 11:57

Fair enough. Fair enough.

brit 11:58

so overall just really beautiful. Looks like it would be so much fun and we have to go there for our honeymoon.

josh 12:10

I guess that's good. Reason is I need to go there is for a honeymoon, so Yeah. You don't have to convince me of that one. Well, that's good

brit 12:21

because now it's our first plan for our honeymoon. Yes. We'll go to the Amalfi coast.

josh 12:28

One of the places we have planned one less thing to do.

brit 12:30

Yeah. Okay. What's your number? Four.

josh 12:36

Alright, I'm gonna make you do this again. I'm gonna have you look up the Morskie Oko in Poland, or you could try typing out Eye of the Sea Poland.

brit 12:53

Wow.

josh 12:53

Mm-hmm.

brit 12:55

Those mountains kind of remind me of the remarkables in New Zealand.

josh 13:02

Yes. Yes they do. I had that written down. Yeah.

brit 13:08

Wow. Those are stunning.

josh 13:10

It and this lake in these mountains, it, it either looks like it belongs so perfectly or it doesn't look like it belongs at all.

brit 13:23

Yeah.

josh 13:23

It's, it's so stunningly beautiful. And that's just one of many lakes in all of the mountains there in Poland. It's

brit 13:31

looks gorgeous.

josh 13:32

It's just stunning.

brit 13:33

Yeah.

josh 13:34

another reason for Poland, we had talked about possibly doing it for our long Europe trip, going to Krakow 'cause it seems like a wonderful city. A lot of people go there, wonderful Christmas markets there, that'd be a great reason for food. They are really into fermented foods, so you see a lot of sourdough there and fermented veggies that we love. But some of the ones that I saw while looking up like, oh, what's some really good food would be Hunter Stew. just coming back from Ireland not too long ago, we had some amazing stew. So another stew just was like. Fits.

brit 14:16

We love Stew.

josh 14:18

Mm-hmm.

brit 14:19

We both love Stew so much.

josh 14:20

Yeah. so Hunter Stew, it's got a polish name to it, but I get not something I would be able to pronounce unfortunately. dumplings. They also have great dumplings as well as a sandwich called, Zapiekanka. I probably said that wrong, but it's like an open face sandwich and Oh, it just looks,

brit 14:43

mm,

josh 14:44

and sounds delicious. So some really good food. There is this city called Gdańsk it's a historic town that was, I think, fully rebuilt after World War ii. It is so picturesque and it's right on a river. This actually looks very similar to like a Venice.

brit 15:09

Oh my God, this looks so cute. It kind of reminds me of Belgium Ghent.

josh 15:14

Oh, there you go. Yep. Ghent Belgium. Yep. That's even better. One to compare it to.

brit 15:18

Oh my gosh, that's so cute.

josh 15:21

Mm-hmm.

brit 15:22

We have to go here and for Christmas markets. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my God. There's a picture of Christmas markets. Yeah, I'm sold. I, yeah. Yeah. We're gonna go here.

josh 15:38

And it's another one where they have fantastic public transportation. 'cause I'm just obsessed with public transportation right now. So would love to go there and just be able to get it wherever we wanted with a train or a tram. And it's. Very affordable as compared to the United States.

brit 15:57

So, yeah. That sounds like a really amazing stop. It does.

josh 16:01

Yeah. Poland was my number four. What was your number three?

brit 16:06

my top three. It was really hard to order.

josh 16:11

Oh, decipher between 'em. Okay.

brit 16:12

Yes, because I want to go to all three of these places so badly.

josh 16:20

Yep.

brit 16:20

it almost feels like a need that we have to go to some of these places. so number three, I did put, China.

josh 16:29

Okay. Now.

brit 16:31

I know China is huge. I can't just say China, right?

josh 16:35

Well, you can, but,

brit 16:37

but, particularly where I want to go is the Hunan province where? There are pillar like mountains that look absolutely stunning. it is actually where Avatar was filmed, in this national Forest Park. I'm not gonna try to pronounce it, but it looks so beautiful and out of this world that Avatar was filmed there. I mean,

josh 17:12

oh my gosh, I'm, yeah, I'm looking at these, the mountains you're talking about, where all the scenes in Avatar, where they look like floating. That's what these are.

brit 17:20

so stunning. I would love, absolutely love to go there. I have also seen a lot, on my social media, people climbing up how Heavens gait, this would be such a challenge I think, for both of us. but I think we're getting more into physical challenges that I. make us feel proud of ourselves and all of that stuff. So, uh, it would be a challenge. It is 999 steps.

josh 17:51

Oh my gosh.

brit 17:53

And these steps are steep.

josh 17:56

Holy cow. Look at that. Oh yeah. I've seen people do this before.

brit 18:00

Yeah. Oh, I think it would be so rewarding though to do this and in Chinese culture, 999 is considered to be lucky so I think it would be fun to kind of partake in this challenge and you get to see this stunning view at the top. and then there are escalators that can take you up and down if you do feel like it's too much. Mm-hmm. But I would love to challenge ourselves and do this.

josh 18:33

the pictures, it looks really steep. Mm-hmm. It looks like quite the hike, but I think we could do it.

brit 18:39

there's a lot more in China that I would like to explore. Mm-hmm. I mean, their food scene would be insane. It would be out of this world. And I am a dumpling girl. That is probably my favorite food. Mm-hmm. In the entire world.

josh 18:55

Mm-hmm.

brit 18:56

So the dumplings there, I would, oh, I would be in heaven.

josh 19:01

I was gonna say, shame on you. If you didn't mention any food scene in China, I was gonna be like, oh my gosh.

brit 19:07

Honestly. Yeah. No.

josh 19:10

Kick you off the podcast. This, this is basically a food pod.

brit 19:14

It really is. I just think that this would be such a fun trip and we would explore so much. We would try so many new things and I get taken back to Japan in my memory often

josh 19:29

mm-hmm.

brit 19:30

Of like just being immersed in a very different culture

josh 19:34

mm-hmm.

brit 19:35

Than our own.

josh 19:36

Yeah.

brit 19:36

And how many new experiences were thrown at us during that trip? And I'm like, I mean, China would be very similar.

josh 19:44

Yeah.

brit 19:44

It would be a completely different culture. which I thoroughly enjoy experiencing because there are so many people living their lives out there

josh 19:57

mm-hmm.

brit 19:57

In different cultures, in different countries, and just different ways than what we know.

josh 20:03

Yeah.

brit 20:04

So,

josh 20:05

no, I'm a hundred percent with you on that. It is really cool. Because it's so jolting. Like when we were in Japan, we were just senses, were constantly on high alert, whether it was new food or going on the trains, just walking down the street talking to different people. It was just a totally worthwhile once in a lifetime trip. It was awesome.

brit 20:30

I think doing that and going to places where you're so far outta your element really teaches you Yeah. It teaches you who you are teaches you things about other cultures, other people.

josh 20:43

Yeah.

brit 20:44

I think makes you a kinder person too.

josh 20:46

A hundred percent.

brit 20:47

Yeah.

josh 20:47

I'm with you. Mm-hmm. I'm sold. We've talked about China before.

brit 20:53

We have definitely talked about China before. Yeah.

josh 20:56

Definitely On both of our bucket lists for sure.

brit 20:59

What is your number three?

josh 21:02

So I think I'm going kind of in a similar direction as you with my list, because my number three is Taiwan.

brit 21:09

Ooh,

josh 21:10

okay. Yeah. So just off the coast of China, south of Japan, right over in that area. we've talked about Japan and wanna go back to Japan?

brit 21:20

We need to go back to Japan. No, it's a must.

josh 21:25

But there's just always, we always come back like, oh, there are so many places we have to go.

brit 21:30

I know.

josh 21:31

And I think a place, even though it's a complete different culture, complete different place, a Taiwan or a China might be a great substitute as a place to go to because they have very similar kind of cuisines.

brit 21:47

Yeah.

josh 21:47

Which is one thing that of course we loved about Japan.

brit 21:51

Yeah.

josh 21:51

some things that we loved about Japan that are great in Taiwan is they have beef soup that is just known around the world. Bao buns. Mm-hmm.

brit 22:03

I love Bao.

josh 22:04

Yep.

brit 22:04

Actually Bao, um, is buns. So saying Bao buns is like saying buns. Buns.

josh 22:10

Oh, it's, it's redundant.

brit 22:11

Yes.

josh 22:12

Oh, so you can just say Bao Bao, you know, I even have it typed on my list. That's just Bao, and I just threw buns in there. If you look up Taiwanese food looks amazing. also, Boba tea was invented in Taiwan.

brit 22:27

I love Boba. Mm-hmm. Okay. Yeah.

josh 22:30

another one, I hate to keep on doing this to you and to whoever's listening, but you should Google this Sun Moon Lake, Taiwan.

brit 22:39

Wow. Oh my goodness.

josh 22:43

This reminded me very much like Queenstown. Yeah. Kind of like how we were talking about, the Eye of the Sea Lake in Poland. This even more so reminds me of Queenstown, just how dramatically and jaw dropping. Beautiful it is.

brit 23:03

Wow. It really is.

josh 23:04

Mm-hmm.

brit 23:05

Oh my gosh. I could go here. I don't know if this is very productive 'cause we're just adding so much to each other's lists. So how are we gonna get to all of these places?

josh 23:16

We got loads of time to do lots of traveling.

brit 23:19

We do. We have our whole lives.

josh 23:21

We got forever. Since you're already on your keyboard, I'm gonna throw another one at you. Taroko Gorge. That's T-A-R-O-K-O. Gorge.

brit 23:36

Wow.

josh 23:37

Mm-hmm. Yeah.

brit 23:39

Is that a waterfall? Look at that suspension bridge.

josh 23:42

Mm-hmm.

brit 23:42

That looks terrifying. Terrifyingly beautiful.

josh 23:49

I'm pretty sure Taiwan is one of the most like densely mountainous places on earth

brit 23:56

really? Okay. Mm-hmm. Wow. It looks gorgeous.

josh 24:01

another thing that came up while I was researching, they have a festival every year. It's considered one of the most dangerous festivals, people say. It's described as looking like the galaxy is exploding.

brit 24:16

Hmm.

josh 24:17

I'll try to pronounce this, but it's the Yanshui beehive fireworks festival. for people just listening, all you see is people wearing like beehive suits and behind, behind like plexiglass because they just got fireworks going off all over the place.

brit 24:39

I bet it's gorgeous. I bet it's really fun. I bet it's exhilarating, but I don't wanna do that. That is not for me, dog.

josh 24:50

I also wanna say, as a side note, I'm pretty sure Taiwan was the first country in Asia that legalized same-sex marriage.

brit 25:00

Really? So Taiwan would be a pretty progressive place.

josh 25:04

Mm-hmm. Very safe, very progressive. great food, really beautiful. Some wild festivals.

brit 25:13

Yeah,

josh 25:13

that is my number three onto the top two. I feel like this is like deal or no deal and like opening a case or something. What is in case number two?

brit 25:29

No, um, well do we get to go to our number ones then? Um, my number two is Switzerland.

josh 25:43

Okay, sure.

brit 25:44

we have both been talking about Switzerland since. We first started dating.

josh 25:49

Mm-hmm.

brit 25:50

Like we've been talking about it forever.

josh 25:52

what big traveler doesn't talk about Switzerland at some point?

brit 25:55

Honestly, it looks so gorgeous. Every single picture I see of Switzerland, I'm like, I Oh, we gotta go there.

josh 26:06

And it's so funny 'cause I think we, we danced around it quite a bit in our travels so far.

brit 26:12

We have, we really have. And we've talked about going there, but we've always just decided somewhere else.

josh 26:18

Yeah.

brit 26:19

so this is in my number two spot. I think we could stay in Bernice Oberland, which is surrounded by mountains. Look it up, Bernice Oberland, Switzerland.

josh 26:36

Oh my gosh.

brit 26:38

Oh yeah.

josh 26:39

It's just a town in like a valley.

brit 26:43

Yeah. It looks so gorgeous. You're surrounded by mountains and water and just like it looks stunning. there is something that is on my bucket list here.

josh 26:56

What's on your bucket list

brit 26:58

to go paragliding.

josh 27:00

Oh gosh.

brit 27:02

In Switzerland. Yes. And you can do that here. It is terrifying. However, I think it would be so fun.

josh 27:09

Oh, of course. It'd be fun.

brit 27:11

And it's safe. As safe as jumping off a mountain can be.

josh 27:18

That makes me feel great about it, because that doesn't feel safe at all.

brit 27:24

Well, if you don't wanna do it, I'll do it on my own.

josh 27:28

Well, if you do it, I gotta do it.

brit 27:30

Really.

josh 27:30

And that's how this works. I'm gonna, if I can convince you to do things, you can convince me to do things. Mm-hmm.

brit 27:39

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah,

josh 27:40

it's good. It's good for the pod.

brit 27:41

It is for the pods.

josh 27:45

Okay. So, uh, jump off cliffs,

brit 27:48

jumping off cliffs or mountains here.

josh 27:51

for paragliding.

brit 27:52

For paragliding.

josh 27:53

Okay. Cool. Cool.

brit 27:54

there are some amazing hikes in the Swiss, Swiss Alps. Like, well,

josh 28:00

there's gotta be.

brit 28:02

Absolutely stunning, gorgeous. We've gotten into hiking recently, like I think these hikes would be above and beyond what we've ever experienced in our lives.

josh 28:14

I, I think you might have to climb up another mountain.

brit 28:17

Oh, I know. I was looking at some of 'em and I was like, oh, that one looks scary, but beautiful.

josh 28:27

Gonna have to strap on the boots tight.

brit 28:30

Oh my gosh.

josh 28:31

We're going up a mountain.

brit 28:31

No, my biggest fear is like, we go and do this and I fall off a cliff and die in another country.

josh 28:38

Oh, but jumping off a mountain, the paraglide isn't scary.

brit 28:41

Oh my God. We're gonna be fine. We have something attached to us. We don't climbing up a mountain, we just got our boots.

josh 28:50

We're attached to the ground.

brit 28:52

Some of us are, some of us fall. Okay.

josh 28:58

Okay. But you could, you would do it though. You're, you're saying if there was one everyone, like you have to go up this, you'd be like, okay.

brit 29:07

Yeah. I mean, it depends on the hike, obviously.

josh 29:11

Right? Like,

brit 29:12

I'm not gonna do an extremely dangerous one that's like

josh 29:16

Right. And like people die on the, Nope. That's

brit 29:18

not doing that.

josh 29:19

I can see the mountain from here. It's pretty big.

brit 29:23

yeah. So we could do some amazing hikes. In Bernice Oberland, there is a Swiss cheese and chocolate tour.

josh 29:34

Oh gosh,

brit 29:34

it sounds amazing. I found it on TripAdvisor. If you're going and you do this tour, please let me know how it is.

josh 29:42

Yeah,

brit 29:42

because I wanna do it.

josh 29:45

Oh man, that sounds as good as what, what did we do in, was it Brussels? Did we do a cheese and No, what did we, oh, we did chocolate and beer. That's right.

brit 29:58

Chocolate and beer. That was fun.

josh 30:00

Mm-hmm.

brit 30:00

But this is Swiss cheese and chocolate.

josh 30:03

Swiss cheese and chocolate. Hey, that's two of my two favorite things to eat.

brit 30:09

Yeah, me too.

josh 30:10

Me

brit 30:10

too. Cheese and chocolate.

josh 30:13

Yep. Sounds like a perfect charcuterie board.

brit 30:16

It really does. Um, but also it is just out of this world. Beauty in these mountains. Of course. So I think it would be insane not to have Switzerland on one of our lists.

josh 30:36

yeah, of course. It's stunning.

brit 30:40

So what is your number two?

josh 30:42

Okay. My number two. I mentioned this in the last episode of the podcast. If you didn't listen to it, go back and listen to that. But I've always kind of had an interest in going to South America, but it's definitely been. Intensified since starting this podcast. 'cause I just want to go everywhere. Mm-hmm. And so Columbia would definitely be a place that I would love to go. Several other places in South America as well, but Columbia for sure. Okay. Would be a place I would love to go. this is another place where it is so naturally nature diverse. They have beaches, they have mountains, they have the the Amazon rainforest.

brit 31:28

Oh my gosh.

josh 31:29

And they have deserts. So they literally have parts of everything.

brit 31:32

Yeah.

josh 31:33

There.

brit 31:34

That actually sounds really terrifying.

josh 31:36

It does because you could be in anywhere, you could go to the mountains, I'm sure, get some snow, go to the beach, be around massive amounts of water and tan. Then you go to a desert.

brit 31:49

No, but like all of the animals.

josh 31:51

Oh, in the rainforest, Amazon. Yeah.

brit 31:54

In the Amazon and in the ocean and in the desert. Just, oh my God.

josh 32:01

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

brit 32:02

I don't think I'm helping your case in presenting this. I apologize.

josh 32:07

Okay. How about this? So coffee? Yeah. Yep.

brit 32:12

Colombian coffee. Yeah.

josh 32:13

Yep. Arabic beans.

brit 32:15

Mm-hmm.

josh 32:16

Mm-hmm. So, amazing coffee scene. Of course. to go with that, their foodie scene could have empanadas for days.

brit 32:25

I love empanadas.

josh 32:26

Mm-hmm. And I wrote down another one, I'm probably gonna say it wrong, the Bandha Pisa. I dunno how to describe it. It looks delicious. It's a like a full breakfast, basically. Ooh. And it's, it's like a hardy farmer's breakfast. I think it's described as, but if you pull up looking at it, you're like, oh my gosh, I could eat that. when I looked it up, it was described by someone's Reddit, I believe, as the Ghent Belgium of Columbia. This city and it's Zales, it's safe, it's historic. Got the great food and coffee scene, it's got mountains. It's a little cooler. Because of those mountains, so,

brit 33:12

okay.

josh 33:13

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

brit 33:14

We love to Ghent Belgium, so anything that's described as the Ghent Belgium of a place I feel like will love.

josh 33:21

Yeah.

brit 33:21

So, okay.

josh 33:24

And it's very affordable So Columbia is my number two. Looks like a place that is very beautiful, very diverse, just a stunning place to be.

brit 33:36

Yeah.

josh 33:36

Mm-hmm. Seems

brit 33:37

like it. Yeah. Okay.

josh 33:39

But I am now ready for you to open your last case. What is in case number one?

brit 33:46

in my number one spot is somewhere I have wanted to go. I think my whole life, maybe not consciously my whole life, but I've always dreamed about seeing the animals that live here.

josh 33:59

Okay.

brit 33:59

I've always been an animal person, always will be. And these animals always have intrigued me and scared me I just would love to see them in the wild.

josh 34:10

Mm-hmm.

brit 34:11

I also would never go and see them. Under captivity or anything like that. So when we have been in places that maybe, you know, you can ride an elephant or something like that, we would never do that. we would make sure to look at places that treat their animals. Right.

josh 34:29

Sure.

brit 34:30

it, or in national forests.

josh 34:33

Mm-hmm.

brit 34:33

But my number one place is Kenya.

josh 34:39

Oh.

brit 34:41

So here we can do a safari

josh 34:45

mm-hmm.

brit 34:46

Where we can go into national parks and see giraffes and elephants and lions. And these terrify me. But rhinos, I mean, they're all roaming free

josh 35:04

around. This is a sight scene safari. Right. Okay.

brit 35:08

They're, but these animals are roaming free around their natural habitats, which I mean, would, is the perfect way to see them. I have also always wanted to do a hot air balloon over the Great Migration.

josh 35:25

Oh yeah.

brit 35:27

So that is in between July and October.

josh 35:31

Okay.

brit 35:32

Where. All of the animals are migrating, which they naturally do.

josh 35:38

Mm-hmm.

brit 35:38

but you can book a hot air balloon and watch all of these animals travel through to their next location. Like, it looks like such a life changing experience. Mm-hmm. And me being such like an animal person, I think it would just change my life so much to be able to witness this.

josh 36:03

it definitely would. I don't know how your life couldn't change after seeing that.

brit 36:07

Yeah.

josh 36:07

Mm-hmm. It's like seeing the earth from space. Yeah.

brit 36:14

No, that, that's like the ultimate travel destination is space.

josh 36:22

Yes.

brit 36:26

We're never gonna get to go there, but, oh, how funny.

josh 36:32

so the great migration. Air balloon rides, see all the animals.

brit 36:37

Yes. there's also places where there are sanctuaries for like endangered animals. And these sanctuaries are not where they hold animals captive, but where they take good care of them, they get to roam in a lot of land. And, there's a giraffe hotel

josh 36:58

Oh, yes.

brit 36:59

Where you can feed giraffes from your window.

josh 37:04

Oh, that's fantastic.

brit 37:05

Yeah. It seems like they take really good care of their giraffes. It seems like. the giraffes can come and go.

josh 37:12

Mm-hmm.

brit 37:13

If I'm reading it correctly.

josh 37:15

yeah. I think I've seen this. I'm pretty sure they're free roaming drafts, but they stick close by because they know they can get some food.

brit 37:23

I love giraffes so much.

josh 37:26

Mm-hmm.

brit 37:26

There's such gentle giants. Mm-hmm. To be able to meet one and befriend one would be my dream. Mm-hmm. Like, ugh.

josh 37:36

Better than space,

brit 37:37

literally. No, no, no.

josh 37:42

Oh.

brit 37:42

there is also, in Kenya there are coffee farm tours, so you can go and tour where the coffee is made and you get tastings along the way. So I think that would be really fun. And then there's also food tours, like street food tours and, things like that that I think we would have so much fun with.

josh 38:07

Oh, of course. Oh my gosh. A, a coffee farm tour. Ugh.

brit 38:11

This would be an ultimate bucket list adventure for me, because this is something I've always wanted to do.

josh 38:20

Mm-hmm. And not that it's ever a point us to do something to say you've done it, but this would be a whole nother continent for us. So just be able to cross that off.

brit 38:32

Yeah.

josh 38:33

A list that, you know, we've been to Africa.

brit 38:36

Mm-hmm. I would love to go there. I think it would be so much fun. would be a life changing experience. I think we have to do it.

josh 38:45

Mm-hmm. I think we do. that's in your number one spot for a reason. I think that's something that would be really special to do.

brit 38:53

Yeah. Yeah. I'm not gonna lie, it scares the shit outta me. But I think it's it. It's gotta be done. We gotta do it.

josh 39:00

Gotta do it.

brit 39:01

Yep.

josh 39:01

Mm-hmm.

brit 39:02

What's in your number one?

josh 39:04

my number one is also of course something that we have to do. Mm-hmm. And it's definitely a place we've talked about ourselves with family and because we have ancestry here and we've been to Scotland and Ireland, where I know I have ancestry from going to Norway has to be in my number one spot. Yeah.

brit 39:27

Mm-hmm.

josh 39:28

Mm-hmm. I, I'm sure I have ancestors from many other places, but Norway is one for sure where we know that we have family from. So

brit 39:39

yeah, both of us do. Mm-hmm.

josh 39:40

Mm-hmm.

brit 39:42

Wow. Oh, that would be so beautiful. Mm-hmm. I've always wanted to go to Norway too.

josh 39:46

Yep. We've talked about it and I think it's just, I think it would be a great next spot. 'cause we've been to Scotland, we've been to Ireland, Norway just seems like a place that has that emotional pull towards it. Mm-hmm. Kind of like we felt for Scotland beforehand. I kind of feel like a little bit of a pull there. It would be cool to see if, when we got there, 'cause of course we're gonna have to go at some point.

brit 40:14

Yeah.

josh 40:14

If it's like Scotland where it's like, oh wow, that there's a pull here, I can feel something here.

brit 40:20

Yeah. Mm-hmm. And I know we're not talking about like moving to a place, but Norway is one that we both have talked a lot about, where we could probably see ourselves moving to one of those Nordic countries.

josh 40:31

Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, there's crossover in this list. I mean, there, there are places that we had talked about like Poland. but it's also just a beautiful place, the the fjords. last time I'll ask you on this episode, but Google the troll's tongue. The

brit 40:51

troll's tongue.

josh 40:52

Mm-hmm.

brit 40:53

Oh my gosh.

josh 40:55

Mm-hmm.

brit 40:56

Do you walk out on that?

josh 40:58

People do.

brit 40:59

There's no way that's stable. What?

josh 41:06

For those who don't get the chance to look it up, it is a very high cliff edge that looks like a tongue of, I guess a troll Norway thinks sticking out its tongue and you're over the top of Forest Mountain Lakes and it's stunning.

brit 41:26

Oh my gosh.

josh 41:27

It's so beautiful.

brit 41:29

It looks so gorgeous.

josh 41:32

There's so much of that in Norway. 'cause it's such a elongated country. It goes along Sweden and connects with Finland Place that we gave an honorable mention to. It's just got stunning scenery. Yeah.

brit 41:48

Yeah. Norway. This just like blew my mind. Oh my gosh. That would be so fun to do that. But it also looks so scary.

josh 41:56

Of course.

brit 41:57

Um, but the beauty in Norway looks unmatched. It looks so gorgeous.

josh 42:03

Yeah. It it really does. It really does. I pulled it up and I was like, oh my Oh, well, kinda like, uh, Bernice Oberland, like I looked up that picture Yeah. For Switzerland and I was like, oh, oh. Tears to my eyes. It's so pretty.

brit 42:17

Yeah.

josh 42:18

And I just want to go and see it.

brit 42:20

But me too. We, we have to go to all of these places now.

josh 42:25

it's beautiful. Of course, I wouldn't do myself or this podcast justice if I didn't mention the food. Norway big on wild game and seafood and they have fantastic salmon and deer dishes. Ugh.

brit 42:42

If you know anything about me, you know I love a salmon.

josh 42:44

Mm-hmm.

brit 42:46

Ugh. Okay.

josh 42:47

they are having a big boom in micro breweries here.

brit 42:52

Ooh.

josh 42:53

Yep. We love our micro breweries here in Wisconsin. So it would feel like home going there and going to a bunch of breweries.

brit 43:00

Yeah.

josh 43:00

Mm-hmm. And then another reason to go, it is one of these safest countries and most inclusive countries in the world. So no matter who you are, no matter where you come from, you should feel safe and included here.

brit 43:16

Oh, that's beautiful.

josh 43:17

Yeah.

brit 43:18

Love that. Okay. Mm-hmm. Well,

josh 43:20

So now that we've gone over both of our top fives, how do you feel about our 10 put together?

brit 43:29

all of these are so exciting to me. I'm having a hard time organizing what order we need to go to these places, uh, and how we're gonna do this on top of going to places Or we know we need to check out to move. Yeah. we'll figure it out. We'll get to these places. Yeah. For sure.

josh 43:51

We will.

brit 43:52

What do you think about our top 10 put together?

josh 43:56

I think it's fantastic. if we were to throw these together, there's gonna be some of yours that are probably gonna jump, some of mine that I have listed.

brit 44:06

Yeah.

josh 44:07

And it'll just become a mixed mash of places that we have to go.

brit 44:14

Yeah.

josh 44:14

You know, just like Portugal and Finland, if we didn't already have plans in our heads like, we're gonna go here, those would definitely be on here. So I am really excited to, probably go to one of these in between all those.

brit 44:30

Yeah.

josh 44:31

Mm-hmm.

brit 44:31

Me too.

josh 44:32

Is there any one of my five that most captures your imagination or your travel spirit?

brit 44:41

I mean. Norway, Norway,

josh 44:44

of course.

brit 44:44

Yeah. Norway, Taiwan.

josh 44:48

Ah,

brit 44:48

that was surprising.

josh 44:50

Mm-hmm.

brit 44:51

I don't know why I, I never thought of Taiwan.

josh 44:53

it was Google Maps is the reason that I thought of it. 'cause I was like, I wanna pick some Asian, I wanted to pick just again, by like, we've been to Japan.

brit 45:02

Yeah.

josh 45:02

And so I was circling over there and Taiwan and looked at some Google photos, some food stuff. Of course. I was like, oh, Taiwan Taiwan's pretty

brit 45:14

cool. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. it looks really beautiful. I think that would be an amazing trip.

josh 45:19

Mm-hmm. minus the beehive fireworks festival.

brit 45:22

Yeah, no, I don't wanna go there for that. we could do possibly Taiwan and China in the same trip if we wanted to, we could see.

josh 45:32

Mm-hmm.

brit 45:33

Are there any of mine that you, that really stuck out to you?

josh 45:37

Well, of course. I mean, we've talked about Italy and the Amalfi coast for our honeymoon, so that's there. Greece, just not even Santorini, but so many places in Greece I would love to go. So Greece in general would be fantastic. China, we've talked about a bunch Switzerland, what big traveler doesn't want to go to Switzerland? Uh, Kenya was one that was surprising, but makes total sense.

brit 46:04

Yeah.

josh 46:05

And that would be a perfect spot, I think, to go Check off a list of going to Africa, going to another continent.

brit 46:14

Mm-hmm.

josh 46:15

all of them is the answer. They, they, they all look fantastic, and I would absolutely add 'em all to my list.

brit 46:21

Yeah. I mean, same.

josh 46:23

Yeah.

brit 46:26

Okay. so next episode we'll be talking about what we learned we have liked about being in other countries. Don't forget to like, subscribe, and follow on TikTok, Instagram and YouTube @WSMHtravels

josh 46:42

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brit 47:00

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