Journey to Portugal: Tours, Tastings, and Travel Talk

Portugal Trip Plan: Solo Start in Aveiro, Food & Wine Tours in Porto, Coimbra, Lagos & Lisbon

Brittany and Josh share their upcoming Portugal itinerary and why the trip could make Portugal a front-runner for where they might move. They gathered recommendations from TikTok but won’t make it to the islands due to limited time. Brittany will begin with five days of first-time solo travel in Aveiro, navigating Portugal by public transit, before Josh joins her for two more days and then they head to Porto. In Porto, they’ve booked multiple tours including food, drink, port wine, and a full-day Douro Valley wine tour, and they’ll be there for Josh’s birthday. They’ll then spend three days in Coimbra, known for its historic university, followed by three days in Lagos with a beach hotel, a speedboat cave tour, swimming, and a food tour, and finish with one day in Lisbon with a food and wine tour.

00:00 Portugal Trip Preview

00:39 Crowdsourced Tips and Tradeoffs

01:26 Solo Start in Aveiro

03:10 Aveiro Canals and Vibes

03:46 Porto Tours and Birthday Plans

06:16 Getting Around by Train

06:51 Coimbra University Stop

08:24 Beach Time in Lagos

10:24 One Day in Lisbon

11:06 Why Food Tours Matter

12:33 Most Excited For Porto

13:40 Porto City Size Talk

14:09 Birthday Plans In Porto

14:22 Beach Trip To Lagos

15:06 Predicting Favorite Cities

17:51 Top Tours To Book

20:01 Wine Tours And Reviews

21:50 Hotels Pools And Beaches

22:28 Mountains And Day Trips

23:26 Solo Travel Nerves

24:38 Why Portugal Feels Right

25:52 Next Episode And Farewell

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Transcript

brit 0:11

Hello and welcome to the We Should Move Here Travels podcast. My name is Brittany.

josh 0:17

I'm Josh

brit 0:17

and we are your hosts. Today we are gonna be talking about our Portugal trip and everything we plan to do there. We are both so excited for this trip and truly believe this could end up being a front runner for both of us of where we might wanna move.

josh 0:38

Yeah, absolutely. We have posted a couple different tiktoks asking for suggestions and recommendations for Portugal, and so many people have commented, liked, shared, sent us messages, so it's really exciting to go.

brit 0:56

Yeah, it is really exciting. I cannot wait. There are some places that people recommended that we won't be going. Mm-hmm. Um, unfortunately we just can't go everywhere. And there are also some places where we just really wanted to check it out so.

josh 1:11

Unfortunately the islands are someplace that so many people said, oh, you guys have to go. You have to go. But just with a limited time on a trip, and like you said, so many other places we wanna go, it's just not gonna fit into the trip.

brit 1:25

Yeah.

josh 1:26

but where we are going is we're gonna be starting in the city of Aveiro and it's gonna be kind of a special, unique start to the trip for us.

brit 1:37

Yeah. I will be doing the first five days completely solo. I've never done any solo travel before, so it'll be a fun and new experience for me. and then Josh will meet me. There, five days later. So really after seeing my mom bungee jump, I had asked myself like, what really scares me? What is my bungee jumping? It's not actual bungee jumping 'cause that's. That's not something I will be doing. but I was like, what's gonna help me grow as a person? What's going to get me outta my comfort zone? And it's, it's solo travel. It's what we do and it's what we love and I've just never done it solo. So.

josh 2:23

I'm so excited for you to do this. I'm pretty sure I have been asking you or telling you like, oh, you should do a solo trip. Ever since we started traveling together.

brit 2:34

Yeah.

josh 2:34

And now you are. And I'm really excited to. See what kind of experience you have.

brit 2:40

Yeah, me too. Looking forward to it.

josh 2:42

also looking forward to have my own personal guide to show me around once I get to Aveiro

brit 2:49

Yeah, I will have found all of the best spots by then. Hopefully. So I'll show you all of the favorite spots that I've been to those five days. But once Josh meets me there, we will spend two more days there and then we will be going to Porto.

josh 3:09

Yes.

brit 3:10

We don't have a whole lot planned in Aveiro, only because it's a smaller city. There's not a whole lot of tours or anything. Mm-hmm. Um, but they have canals kind of like Venice.

josh 3:21

Yeah.

brit 3:21

it's smaller than Venice though. Mm-hmm. They have, I think some boats similar to Venice.

josh 3:28

Yeah.

brit 3:29

Where you can like go through the canals, but I'll wait until you're there to do one of those probably if we want to do one.

josh 3:37

Yeah. Plenty of people have said the Venice of Portugal is Aveiro

brit 3:42

Yeah.

josh 3:43

So a lot of simularities there. Like you said, just a little smaller. But Porto, I believe is the second largest city in Portugal. Yes. Next to Lisbon. And. Very kind of mixed reviews. People saying like, oh, you have to go to Porto. And a few people saying like, you don't have to, it's just another big city. But for the most part, everyone agrees that it's beautiful regardless.

brit 4:06

Yeah. Well, and it's kind of like a, a good stop for tours.

josh 4:13

Mm-hmm.

brit 4:13

And. If you've been listening to the pod, you know we are suckers for tours, a

josh 4:19

great tour.

brit 4:21

So we have several tours booked. Mm-hmm. We have a food and drink tour. We have a food tour, we have a port wine tour, and we have a full day wine tour. Mm-hmm. We will be here for your birthday. Yeah. And we're gonna be doing a food tour on that day. Mm-hmm. So that's really exciting.

josh 4:41

Yeah. And the full day wine tour is the Duro Valley, wine experience. That'll be very exciting. A place that a lot of people recommended us to go and stay there. Yeah. But just because of the other places, we just couldn't make it. But luckily. Porto has full day tours, so we decided to do one of those.

brit 5:01

Yeah.

josh 5:02

Mm-hmm.

brit 5:03

I'm so excited to go and see the Duro Valley.

josh 5:06

Mm-hmm.

brit 5:06

We just tried a wine from there after we had booked all of this.

josh 5:12

Oh, we did? That's right.

brit 5:15

It was really good.

josh 5:16

It was, it was very good. I'm really excited to, to go there and get right from the source.

brit 5:22

Yeah.

josh 5:22

Mm-hmm. Get a little information on it and with all these tours, it's gonna be fantastic. And the place we're staying is above a brewery as well, so. It's gonna be kind of like our,

brit 5:34

it's like made for us.

josh 5:35

Yeah. A real party for us. Yeah. Kinda stuff. Uh, some drinks and food, like, what else could we ask for?

brit 5:43

Yeah. I'm hoping that this is kind of like the rusty mackerel of the spots that we stay Mm. If you haven't heard the Ireland episode, the Rusty Mackerel was just like an incredible pub that we stayed at. So.

josh 5:59

Yeah, that would be, if this is anything close to Rusty Mackerel, I would say that'd be a win.

brit 6:03

Yeah,

josh 6:04

for sure.

brit 6:04

No, it's an Airbnb, so, not like a Local Inn or anything like that.

josh 6:09

Mm-hmm. But very excited for Porto. Now,

brit 6:12

Porto's gonna be amazing.

josh 6:14

Oh, it's gonna be fantastic.

brit 6:15

Yeah.

josh 6:16

And we didn't say, but we are doing this all by public transport.

brit 6:20

Mm-hmm.

josh 6:20

once Brittany lands she does have to navigate, oh

brit 6:24

my

josh 6:24

God. Foreign country train by herself.

brit 6:26

Yeah. I'm actually really scared, but I've heard that Portugal trains are way easy.

josh 6:33

Mm-hmm.

brit 6:33

So. We will see if they're actually as easy as y'all say they are,

josh 6:41

you'll be fine. And then there's a huge, uh, American expat community there that's moved there. Yeah. So, I'm sure you have plenty of people help you out if you need to. Yeah. And I'm just a phone call away.

brit 6:50

I know After three days in Porto, we will spend three days in Coimbra.

josh 6:55

Mm-hmm. This is one that I pushed for. I kind of wanted a definitely. Slightly smaller town than Porto. After that stay, Coimbra Still a well-populated city and very well known, especially for its university, one of the oldest in Europe, originally established in 1290.

brit 7:21

Wow.

josh 7:22

it's the old medieval capital of Portugal, so, uh, that's something cool. And we don't have any tours booked because they don't really have a lot of those. There are a few food ones that I've noticed across the internet, but we might do a city and university tour 'cause it just looks so historic and fun.

brit 7:42

Yeah, it's gonna be a really great stop. I think we're gonna have a lot of fun there.

josh 7:47

Mm-hmm.

brit 7:47

Who knows? Maybe this could be a place where we wanna move.

josh 7:51

Yeah. We are coming. I think it's the week before they have, I believe it's tassel burning is what it translates to. It's. The next week is when the, all the graduates come out and they do like a tassel burning ceremony, and the city goes a little crazy with parties.

brit 8:11

Oh.

josh 8:11

But I think we're there the week before that.

brit 8:14

Okay.

josh 8:14

Mm-hmm. So there might be a little buzz of energy from the students from the university.

brit 8:19

Yeah.

josh 8:22

So,

brit 8:23

okay.

josh 8:23

Yeah. I hope it's a great stop, but after that we are definitely going to a great stop in Lagos.

brit 8:33

Yes, I am so excited for Lagos. We are staying at a hotel with a pool by the beach and. Uh, you're gonna go swimming in the ocean for the first time. Mm-hmm. Maybe here, maybe at one of the previous stops. Who knows?

josh 8:53

Mm-hmm.

brit 8:53

Uh, but you're going swimming in, in the ocean. I'm gonna make you,

josh 8:58

I'm definitely gonna try. I'm a little nervous, but I think with you there, I'll be okay.

brit 9:02

Yeah.

josh 9:03

You can fend off the sharks for me.

brit 9:05

I'll fend him off. Hopefully not on my period. Um,

josh 9:12

nice

brit 9:13

then. We also have a boat tour scheduled. Mm-hmm. This is a speed boat tour we're gonna go see the caves. Mm-hmm. By Lagos. Mm-hmm. And I think you get to do some swimming and stuff there too, so like off of the boat.

josh 9:30

Yeah, maybe.

brit 9:30

So you'll go, you'll definitely go swimming in the ocean here. Definitely. Can't

josh 9:36

forget my swimsuit.

brit 9:37

No, I actually had a nightmare. I think it was last night that I forgot my swimsuit.

josh 9:42

I mean, it's Portugal. They're beaches, they're swimsuits for sale.

brit 9:46

I know. I know. But we will also be doing a food tour here, of

josh 9:53

course.

brit 9:54

Oh my gosh. I'm just so excited for Lagos. I am. I think Lagos is gonna be such a good stop.

josh 10:02

I think it's gonna be amazing. A lot of people either said, you gotta do North Portugal. It's the true Portugal or Southern Portugal. 'cause it's the true Portugal. So we're getting one of each. We're getting Porto, which is pretty far north, and then we're getting Lagos, which is the furthest south. Yeah, pretty much. You can go,

brit 10:21

Yeah, so we're spending three days in Lagos. Mm-hmm. And then we will spend one day in Lisbon. And for that one day we do have a food and wine tour booked.

josh 10:31

Yes, we do.

brit 10:33

So hopefully we get to see a little bit more of Lisbon, then you would expect with just one day. Mm-hmm. I think typically with food and wine tours, you get to see more of the city than you normally would. Yeah. So I think it'll give us at least a, glimpse of Lisbon.

josh 10:49

Yeah. And again, there were a lot of people that were hating on Lisbon, but

brit 10:53

yeah,

josh 10:54

some people said it's the true Portugal. So we will see for the. Albeit one day that we're gonna be there.

brit 11:00

Yeah. And I mean, we're flying out of there, so.

josh 11:04

Mm-hmm.

brit 11:04

We might as well spend some time there.

josh 11:06

Yeah. It's almost like we're making up for our last trip. With all these food tours. 'cause in Ireland we only had one food tour throughout the whole trip. Yeah. And some people might think, well, you did one food tour. No, not around here, partner. Not around here.

brit 11:21

No. Yeah. One food tour on a whole. Trip is not enough.

josh 11:26

Yeah.

brit 11:26

Not for me.

josh 11:27

Across a whole country? No.

brit 11:29

No. I don't think for either of us.

josh 11:31

No, no.

brit 11:32

We love food. Yeah. Okay. We love food tours,

josh 11:35

love food. And also across an entire country there's different cuisines.

brit 11:40

Yeah. And.

josh 11:41

Every corner of a country, you gotta find out what those things are.

brit 11:45

Yeah.

josh 11:46

Mm-hmm.

brit 11:46

Italy is a great example of that because the food in Venice is so different than the food in Tuscany.

josh 11:53

Yeah.

brit 11:54

So different.

josh 11:55

Completely different. Oh man. Just thinking about that. Once we go to our honeymoon in Southern Italy, we're gonna be like, this isn't the Italy food we had before. Minus the pizza and the pasta.

brit 12:06

Well, and from what I've heard, I think that Southern Italy has more pasta.

josh 12:11

Oh, that's right. Than North Italy's. Northern Italy was more fish, right? More

brit 12:16

fish seafood.

josh 12:17

Yeah.

brit 12:17

Yeah. Oh, well

josh 12:19

then I'm really excited.

brit 12:20

Yeah, me too. Anyways, back to Portugal.

josh 12:24

I'm really excited about all these food tours in Portugal.

brit 12:27

Me too. Mm-hmm. And the wine tours. Ugh. Portugal wine is so good.

josh 12:32

Mm-hmm.

brit 12:32

It's gonna be great. what are you most looking forward to?

josh 12:36

For us as a couple. I'm really excited to get there. That first day with you, after you've had time there by yourself. Yeah. And. To see what's what's happened. Really. Of course, I'll be in contact with you the whole time and know.

brit 12:51

Yeah.

josh 12:51

But then to get there and actually see like how you're doing will be awesome. And I'm guessing that you're gonna have a great time and nerves are gonna go away as soon as you're there. Yeah. But besides that. Uh, there are a lot of people singing the praises for Northern Portugal.

brit 13:11

Mm-hmm.

josh 13:12

So I think Porto for sure is gonna be really cool and really beautiful. Yeah. I mean, I'm gonna say Porto, I think that's gonna be really beautiful and cool.

brit 13:22

Okay.

josh 13:23

Mm-hmm. And of course we're doing all the food tours there, or a lot of food tours there.

brit 13:27

Yeah.

josh 13:27

Mm-hmm.

brit 13:28

Porto, I think is gonna be a really surprising big city for us.

josh 13:32

Mm-hmm.

brit 13:33

Because we're not huge like big city people.

josh 13:35

Right.

brit 13:35

But I think it's going to be surprising for us.

josh 13:38

Mm-hmm.

brit 13:38

For sure.

josh 13:39

Yeah. And I think, uh, big cities is relative. I'm not sure what the population there is, but I mean, where we live, Fox Cities, I think it's around. 200,000 for a population in the Fox Cities,

brit 13:53

Porto has about 250,000.

josh 13:57

I think where we're from, the Fox Cities, probably a little more spread out, but similar amount of people, so I don't think we'll feel too overcrowded.

brit 14:08

Yeah. I agree.

josh 14:09

Mm-hmm. What are you most looking forward to on the trip?

brit 14:11

I am really excited to spend your birthday there. Aw. And that's gonna be in Porto. And we have a food tour booked that day. I think that's gonna be a really fun birthday for you. Mm-hmm. but I'm also really looking forward to Lagos.

josh 14:26

Are you?

brit 14:26

Yeah. Like we haven't done a beach trip. Really?

josh 14:32

No.

brit 14:33

And this will be that. Yeah. So. I'm excited for that.

josh 14:37

The closest beach I think we've done was when we went to Silver Strand in Ireland.

brit 14:42

Yeah. But it was freezing.

josh 14:43

Freezing and really windy.

brit 14:46

Yeah. It's kind of unlike us to be doing a beach trip.

josh 14:51

Mm-hmm.

brit 14:52

So I, I don't know. I think it's gonna be really interesting to see how we like it.

josh 14:56

For sure. Yeah, I, I mean, I'm excited to see, I've never been a beach person, but maybe Portugal's gonna change me,

brit 15:05

maybe.

josh 15:05

Mm-hmm. Uh, which location do you think is gonna be your favorite and which do you think is gonna be mine? I,

brit 15:11

like, as far as moving there, wanting to live there.

josh 15:15

Sure. Yeah. If you wanna go with that. Yeah.

brit 15:16

I think that Coimbra is gonna be yours.

josh 15:20

Mm.

brit 15:20

And I think Aveiro is gonna be mine.

josh 15:22

Yeah.

brit 15:23

I do think so. I think Lagos is gonna be absolutely stunning. I don't know with the tourists that we'll see ourself there really. Mm-hmm. and Porto and Lisbon are kind of bigger cities, so it, we definitely could see ourselves there, but it's kind of up in the air, I don't know.

josh 15:42

Mm-hmm.

brit 15:42

but Aveiro, with me having some alone time there, I'm like. I could see myself really loving it and falling in love with it.

josh 15:51

Mm-hmm.

brit 15:51

but then Coimbra, because it's a university town you love, university towns

josh 15:58

love 'em.

brit 15:58

I think you were a professor in your past life.

josh 16:02

I don't know of what, uh, professor

brit 16:06

traveling.

josh 16:06

Oh, there we go. That was way better than what I was about to say. What were

brit 16:10

you gonna say?

josh 16:11

Bullshit.

brit 16:13

Well, that too, but, um, yeah. So I'm gonna say yours is Coimbra mine is Aveiro. Mm. What about you?

josh 16:23

I am gonna say Porto is gonna be your favorite. Oh, mm-hmm. Yeah, I don't get me wrong, I think you're gonna love Aveiro. I think it's gonna be your Venice of Portugal. 'cause if you've listened to this podcast. Venice is Britney's all time city. I

brit 16:40

love thatVenice so much.

josh 16:43

And so if it's just like a little smaller, 'cause Venice is pretty big.

brit 16:47

Yeah.

josh 16:47

If it's a little smaller, you're gonna absolutely love it.

brit 16:50

Yeah.

josh 16:50

But if we're talking about places to move, I think Porto. Might be it. I've seen pictures, all the food tours that we're gonna do. I think we're gonna see so much of the city, and I think that's gonna give it a little, little nudge. But who knows? Maybe you will blossom in

brit 17:07

Maybe. What about for you?

josh 17:10

I think I'm also gonna say Porto, I,

brit 17:13

Hey,

josh 17:14

you know, I want it to be Coimbra, but usually when I want something, it's.

brit 17:19

It's not it.

josh 17:20

It's not it. Like when we took our Europe trip.

brit 17:23

Yeah,

josh 17:23

I think Graz, I was like, man, I really hope Graz is it. And I loved Graz. It was stunning, but it just wasn't it Like Ghent was

brit 17:32

Ghent, was it?

josh 17:33

Mm-hmm. Ghent was it? And I didn't even, I don't think either of us really thought it. I think I might have said it would be for you, but regardless.

brit 17:41

Yeah,

josh 17:41

I'm, I'm excited for Porto for both of us. I think we're gonna see a lot of the city with all the tours, which is exciting.

brit 17:48

I love that. Mm-hmm. Oh, okay.

josh 17:51

So with that being said about tours, which tour experience do you think is going to be your favorite? What are you looking forward to the most, I should say?

brit 18:01

I think the full day wine tour in the Duro Valley. that one I think is gonna be an amazing tour. Yeah. I mean, we get lunch, we get to do the tour with a group of people. Hopefully they're great people.

josh 18:15

Mm-hmm.

brit 18:15

Hopefully, the tour guide is great. I've looked at reviews and it just looks amazing. So I think that one's gonna be. A highlight of a tour.

josh 18:26

Mm-hmm.

brit 18:26

Um, I also think that the boat tour in Lagos is gonna be so different for us.

josh 18:34

Mm-hmm.

brit 18:34

And so, like unlike anything we've ever. Experienced. So I think that one's gonna be really fun too, and get you out of your comfort zone a little bit.

josh 18:46

I'm outta my comfort zone just talking about it.

brit 18:48

Yeah, it'll be so fun.

josh 18:52

I gotta say a lot like it's not water, it's not boats, it's the ocean. Yeah. It's just, we don't know what, like 90 some percent of the ocean is unexplored and unknown.

brit 19:07

I know.

josh 19:07

That is terrifying.

brit 19:09

It is really scary. But I mean, you're more likely to go down in a plane than you are to get bit by a shark.

josh 19:17

Oh, that's an exciting thought.

brit 19:19

Well, and that's very unlikely,

josh 19:22

right.

brit 19:22

You know? So

josh 19:23

Very true.

brit 19:25

Think of how unlikely it is.

josh 19:27

Well, and I mean, just how. Rares it for you to be the one calling me down about a scary experience instead of,

brit 19:37

well, with the ocean, I've been in the ocean before.

josh 19:39

That's true.

brit 19:40

Not for many, many years though, so. Mm-hmm. I might be scared. I don't know.

josh 19:44

Yeah, I'm sure you're right. I'm sure we'll get out there. We'll go on the ocean and be fine. We'll get on the boat. It'll be great.

brit 19:51

Yeah,

josh 19:51

it'll be a great experience.

brit 19:53

Yeah. Mm-hmm. Agreed. What about for you? What tour or experience are you most excited for?

josh 20:01

I think I'm most looking forward to the port wine tour in Porto.

brit 20:07

Oh

josh 20:07

yeah. The, yeah. Don't get me wrong, the full day wine tour, it's gonna be exciting. Like you said, we get lunch and from the description of the tour, it is with a family winery, so that's really exciting. We loved that when we were in Sienna, Italy.

brit 20:24

Yeah,

josh 20:25

but the Port wine tour in Porto, they take you around the city. You go into like the wine caves where the wine is stored, so we get a little bit of the city. Plus the wine right on that tour. So I think that's gonna be really exciting and fun.

brit 20:41

Yeah. This one does look amazing and it has incredible reviews.

josh 20:46

Mm-hmm.

brit 20:47

Like 1300 reviews and it's at a 4.9.

josh 20:50

Yeah.

brit 20:51

That's pretty incredible. There are some that have like over 2000 and they have a 5.0. Mm-hmm. It's crazy.

josh 20:58

Yeah, they, they must do tours right there, so.

brit 21:02

Yeah.

josh 21:03

Or the wine just must be that good and. People get drunk on wine right away.

brit 21:07

Yeah. The Duro Valley one as well has 1800 reviews and is a 4.9.

josh 21:14

Mm-hmm.

brit 21:15

That's crazy.

josh 21:15

Yeah.

brit 21:16

So these are gonna be some really good tours.

josh 21:19

Yeah, I, I think it was a good spot to load up on tours. You don't always get that. Like our trip to Ireland.

brit 21:25

Yeah.

josh 21:26

Plus it could just be time of year. I am excited for the time of year. 'cause we are going here at the end of spring, so we're on the cusp of summer before it gets really busy. So we'll be kind of in a good middle area, I think as far as busyness.

brit 21:41

Yeah.

josh 21:41

Mm-hmm.

brit 21:42

I think so too.

josh 21:43

But we also didn't have any trouble booking any tours or any hotels or anything. So it might be really quiet, so,

brit 21:49

yeah.

josh 21:49

Mm-hmm.

brit 21:50

And I think the places that we're staying to, some of them look really cool. Like the the brewery one. Mm-hmm. In Porto. Yeah. That one looks really cool. And I'm excited to see the places that we're gonna stay.

josh 22:04

Yeah.

brit 22:05

Too, the one in Lagos. Mm. So excited.

josh 22:09

Yeah. And that's got. You said that has a pool with it, right?

brit 22:12

It has a pool. Mm-hmm. It's on the beach.

josh 22:15

Yeah. Well, it's a short walking distance to the beach, right? Yeah, I think, yeah. Yeah,

brit 22:18

I think so.

josh 22:19

So close enough. So we are gonna be real. Beach people.

brit 22:23

We're gonna be beach people.

josh 22:24

Man, crazy. It's

brit 22:26

a different trip. But Portugal is also known for its mountainous regions as well. So I think we will kind of get the best of both worlds. I don't know if we're like staying anywhere where there's. An insane amount of mountains, but near Aveiro. There's, um, a mountainous region that I've seen that has, I think, the longest suspension bridge in Europe.

josh 22:50

Oh.

brit 22:51

So I've looked into that. And, there's also like these colorful stairs that I've seen

josh 22:57

Okay.

brit 22:58

That are also near Aveiro. So we'll, we'll see what we end up finding.

josh 23:03

Yeah. We got lots of time, lots of things we can do.

brit 23:06

Yeah.

josh 23:07

Yeah. I think Coimbra is kind of on like some foothills of some mountains.

brit 23:12

Yeah.

josh 23:12

So we might be a little more into it since it's east of Lisbon, so a little deeper into the center of Portugal. Yeah. So we might get to a little bit of a mountain fix there.

brit 23:22

That's so exciting.

josh 23:23

Yeah. Really excited for this trip. Is there anything else that we haven't really talked about that you're excited for or scared of, interested in?

brit 23:32

I mean, I'm pretty scared to do the solo travel, but mm-hmm. We're gonna have a whole episode in the future about our solo travel experiences. Mm-hmm. Like you've solo traveled to Thailand. Mm-hmm. And, I think we can both, you know, talk about what the experience was like for us.

josh 23:50

Yeah.

brit 23:51

and hopefully I find some cool things that we can do for the two days that you're there with me. Yeah. Afterwards. I am just looking forward to the whole trip with you, and I'm trying not to think about the solo travel piece because it scares me. But

josh 24:05

yeah,

brit 24:06

I think it'll be fine. I'll be fine.

josh 24:09

You'll be, it'll be great.

brit 24:11

what about you? Anything that we're missing?

josh 24:13

Just excited for, for the people and the food and the wine. I don't know what order, if that's the right order. People, food, wine, food, people, wine. I'm not exactly sure the order, but.

brit 24:28

Wine, food, people,

josh 24:29

wine, food people.

brit 24:32

That's my order.

josh 24:35

I'm really excited for the trip. It's gonna be really fun. A place that many people have recommended to us. Of course, a huge American expat community, so a lot of people move there for good reason. So it'll be exciting to see what all the talks about.

brit 24:51

Yeah. So many people have mentioned Portugal because it is a incredibly safe country.

josh 24:57

Mm-hmm.

brit 24:58

I mean, I'm afraid to solo travel, but I'm not like solo traveling to a place that's like unsafe.

josh 25:03

Right?

brit 25:04

Like, I'm not afraid of being there. I'm afraid of getting there. That's what I'm afraid of.

josh 25:10

You're, you're afraid of a un uncomfy plane ride next to someone you don't know.

brit 25:14

Yeah. But Portugal is like one of the safest places in the world. It is. Incredibly beautiful from what I've seen in pictures and I can't imagine what it's gonna look like with our own eyes.

josh 25:29

Yeah.

brit 25:30

and I just think it, it has so much to offer and people see that when they travel there. So I think that's why so many people move there. It's an undeniable kind of feeling. I could imagine.

josh 25:44

Yeah.

brit 25:45

That like this is the place and I, I wonder if we're gonna get it here.

josh 25:50

I'm looking forward to finding out.

brit 25:52

Next episode, we will be talking about our time spent in Aveiro. Yay.

josh 25:59

Mm-hmm.

brit 26:00

It feels so odd because we still have a while before we're back home.

josh 26:05

Yeah.

brit 26:06

So we're recording this way before, but,

josh 26:09

so next time you see us, we'll probably be a little tanned up.

brit 26:12

Ooh. That will be next episode. Don't forget to like, subscribe, and follow on TikTok, Instagram and YouTube @WSMHtravels

josh 26:25

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brit 26:42

Thank you so much for listening. Until next time,