Collete Davis on Reinvention, Risk, and Racing Everything | LET'S BE RONest S2 #3

From open-wheel racing and rallycross to Monster Jam and Formula Drift, Collete Davis has built a career by refusing to stay in one lane.
Collete takes Ron through the journey that started with a simple go-kart experience and turned into a lifelong pursuit of speed. She shares how she hustled her way through a mechanical engineering race program, made the difficult decision to leave the traditional path behind, and took a chance on herself as a professional driver.

Ron and Collete dive into her years competing in Red Bull Global Rallycross, the transition from open-wheel racing to dirt, and how she stayed motivated when racing programs ended unexpectedly. They also discuss the mindset required to keep adapting, from landing a spot in Monster Jam to discovering a passion for drifting and building her Formula Drift program.
Along the way, they explore the people who inspired her, the challenges women still face in motorsports, her YouTube journey, favorite forms of racing, and what it takes to stay aggressive and competitive at the highest level.

This episode features Collete Davis discussing Formula Drift, Red Bull Global Rallycross, Monster Jam, women in motorsports, engineering, entrepreneurship, drifting, YouTube, driver development, racing mindset, career pivots, and chasing opportunities wherever they lead.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Welcome to the latest episode of Let's Be Ronic. And this weekend, today, special guest is Colette Davis. And we've just got to her lair. Let's see what we can see. So far, looks pretty low-key, like I'm going in the catwoman's lair. And just as what I thought. Tons and tons of stuff. Race trailer, race trailer. Tesla. I guess is this the drifting Tesla, maybe? Rotary, RXA. Those aren't nittos. Cool truck. Square body. Tires, of course. The cool lights. Garage. Swamp cooler. We're in Orlando. It is muggy and what is the term they call it? Swamp ass. That's what's happening right now. Oh, a little lounge area. Cool. I wonder what this is for. Oh. Her little dog. Ooh, I don't see any grass around. We're about to enter her catwoman layer, maybe. But so far it's pretty cool. Wow, look at this. House of pricks. Oh, look at that. Oh, got all the little tropies. Oh, look at Hello Kitty. Wow, look at this. Colette, where are you at? I've just infiltrated your lair. This is cool.

SPEAKER_04 1:45

You like it? It's a lot of colors.

SPEAKER_01 1:49

Oh my gosh, this is this is pretty cool. Welcome. I mean, the design is pretty cool. I I don't feel emasculated at all, but it's like cool. Like I can hang out here and get hammered beyond all recognition.

SPEAKER_04 2:05

This is pretty cool. It's a little different than your average great shop, maybe, but I think it's just more whimsical and fun, right?

SPEAKER_01 2:13

Yeah, I did it. That fun as Von Gitten Jr. put Von Gitten Jr. put it. This is a fun-having shop.

SPEAKER_04 2:20

Yeah, this is actually the first time I've ever had like the space to build like a lounge. And then we started with, okay, well now I can put stuff on display. We can add some pops of color here and there, and then I actually set up my first sim.

SPEAKER_01 2:34

Yeah, look at that. Look at that. That it and it it's in your traditional colors. Of course. You know what I'm and then the chairs match. You know what? Just like you gotta coordinate. Coordinate mushroom lapel with the mushroom belt. What was the movie is that? Boomerang. And you got the chairs that match, the toolbox. I mean, this is pretty sick. Yeah, I I I'm in all for the design. It looks good. Dude, your shop pretty sick. Like the overall design and everything. Uh, what happens here, Colette Racing?

SPEAKER_04 3:13

Really? Everything. You know, is this your first shop? It's my first, like, bid shop, like standalone with areas to like test the car a little bit with a full lounge. Like, I've never had my random trophies on display or race suits. So I feel like this is the first space I've been in that I've been able to renovate and fully make my own, which is awesome. And I mean everything happens here from running the FD program and team to other car builds. Um, now I got my sim in here, so I'm doing training on that and content production, media production, everything.

SPEAKER_01 3:47

Wow, it's it's it's fucking cool.

SPEAKER_04 3:51

It's awesome. Honestly, it was such a dream to even find this place. So Winter Park is one of my favorite areas in all of Orlando, and the fact that I found like the dream space, it worked out. PSI was moving out into much bigger space, and I got it at the perfect time.

SPEAKER_01 4:05

So you know, when I first walked in, there's it's very unassuming because you got the black gate, there's no signage outside, PSI is still out there, right? Which I think is kind of cool and unassuming, right?

SPEAKER_04 4:17

Or blacked out all around.

SPEAKER_01 4:18

It seems like a lair, that the Colette Davis lair. And when you open it up, just like everything you see typically in any type of race program or anything like that, shit is everywhere.

SPEAKER_04 4:30

And then um to walk in through your doors, just like, oh yeah, I'm I'm stuck with how the lounge came together. This is still a work in progress, but like I just wanted a fun place to hang out that also like expresses my style in cars, has some crazy colors. I like it, and like this place having a dyno also is super. The RX7 is sitting on top of a dino, and PSI runs that, but like just so many things came together that made this the best spot, and I'm right in downtown Winter Park. Congratulations.

SPEAKER_01 5:03

It's this is this is pretty dope. Pretty dope. The cat. I mean, it's got that, you know, all the the stuff after you've been busting your ass, right? You could just sit here and relax, and then you got anime race stuff on TV, stuff like that.

SPEAKER_04 5:20

You got the vibes, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:21

There's a lot of vibe in here.

SPEAKER_04 5:23

You know, girls shop, so we have a little makeup corner, of course, with the helicopter mirror. Um, but no, it's awesome. I mean, so many nights you're here late, late nights at the shop, and now to have a place to just crash if we need to.

SPEAKER_01 5:35

I've already got out of here.

SPEAKER_04 5:37

It depends. I mean, I now I have an apartment like down the street, which is great, but still before that, I mean, I've definitely slept on that couch many nights. But it's you know, when you're here late, now it can just pass out, like it's it's convenient.

SPEAKER_01 5:51

Yeah, pretty cool. One thing um is you mentioned you have an apartment, right? But your shop is where the magic happens, you know what I mean? And this is cool.

SPEAKER_04 6:04

I'm definitely here like 90% of the time, but this has been such a dream come true to find this place, and it's still like there's a lot of work to be done. I mean, I have so much stuff. I'm still officially like moving in in the outdoor space. I'm making like a whole car wash, car detail hangout area. I saw that the shop still needs like so much more to be done to it. I'm getting LED signs with all my sponsors everywhere. There's there's a bigger vision, and it's coming slowly but surely. You know, I think the focus was first getting here, and then we had to renovate a couple rooms, and then the FD season was already knocking on our door. So there's there's always a lot going on.

SPEAKER_01 6:40

You know what's silly is you'll be you're in your makeup area, right? And what a better view while you're doing the makeup area, right? Then to see your race car, right?

SPEAKER_04 6:52

Yeah, no, I love I love this uh this window in here, it's really awesome.

SPEAKER_01 6:56

Yeah, and what a better place to do makeup because and on the sim.

SPEAKER_04 7:02

You know, I can keep looking at my FD car and be like, no, go back on the sim. Come on, we got we got training to do.

SPEAKER_01 7:07

You're making yourself beautiful in front of the mirror, right? Not that you're already beautiful every day. And you're looking at the beauty of a race car. You can't beat that with the stick. I'm telling you that right now.

SPEAKER_04 7:17

I know, it's really great. And I think it's like it's it's girly, but it's also just fun. And I don't know, I really like it. It's coming together. There's like I said, it's still a lot of work to do, but it's definitely starting to be way more collette spec. Oh this entire area, which I love.

SPEAKER_01 7:34

I'd imagine the first one was you're at 1.0. What are you at right now?

SPEAKER_04 7:38

3.0 for a number of shops?

SPEAKER_01 7:40

No, for this shop.

SPEAKER_04 7:42

Um, I mean, this is like maybe 1.1.0, yeah. How long have you been here? I've been here since January. Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_01 7:51

Fresh and brand new.

SPEAKER_04 7:52

We had to fully renovate like two of the rooms, so that took a long time. And I just have so much stuff wrong. Oh my gosh, you were already trying to sell me another one of your cars. Like, I don't know. No, please PSA to everyone. Do not offer me a car or try and sell me anything. Like, I have too many things, and even moving into here, it forced me to go through maybe 10 years of hoarding car parts. Like, I found entire builds I had no idea about from when I lived in California and I moved my shop then. So um I'm I'm going through everything, and uh I don't need any more cars. So you have to stop everyone there.

SPEAKER_01 8:29

Take it from me, who's been in motorsports since 80, 89. Yeah, accumulation is a real, real problem.

SPEAKER_04 8:38

Yeah, and I have so there's so many awesome builds that like I just I'm so looking forward to being settled, the FD program where it needs to be, to then get back to building. Like, I feel like the past year and year, year and a half, you know, I haven't been able to go back to just building stuff that's not competition level, there's way more pressure, stress, and like I have a ton of sit cars and like parts for them all, and I'm just excited to get to a good place to just get back to like normal ranching in the shop.

SPEAKER_01 9:08

Ah, nice. We're close. We're very close. Let's go check out the other rooms.

SPEAKER_03 9:15

Let's do it.

SPEAKER_05 9:17

Oh man.

SPEAKER_01 9:22

I thought your living room was pretty relaxing. This is taking it on another whole level. Like I feel like you can sleep in here.

SPEAKER_04 9:32

This is the media room. Victoria and I fully renovated this room. There was like no real wall or insulation before, and it's just so cool. She has like the tech wall over there, and just having a space that's separate from the shop for when you need to just get in the editing zone and just switch it up, you know. Like I feel like I really haven't worked from this desk often, I'm not gonna lie, but I feel like we both just kind of go to the different spots around the shop and mix it up all the time. But it is really awesome to have a central place for all your media gear, equipment, brainstorming, and all that.

SPEAKER_01 10:06

I see that all on the wall. What was this room before? A storage room or something?

SPEAKER_04 10:10

Yeah, kind of storage. Um, and like with a wall that you could see through to the main shop, and it was just falling apart. So this is one of the first things we did, and then we renovated like the entry room as well. You which I've never done that before. So that was that was a fun series of videos. Me and Victoria like figuring out how to do a lot of this, but it's a vibe. I love it.

SPEAKER_01 10:33

You you have a knack for design, I'll tell you that. And thanks for all you feel the motif between your media room and the living room, it's completely different.

SPEAKER_04 10:45

It's just fun, you know. I feel like I've I say this a lot, but like in the beginning of racing, I always like wore all black and tried to blend in and do all this stuff, and like you're busting your ass to be there. So eventually, when I got into drifting, I just started like building what I like and putting colors into everything. And now I kind of just maybe do that to an excess, but it's fun, right? Life's too short.

SPEAKER_01 11:11

How did all of this? I mean, you're a young, a a young businesswoman, right? And a young driver, right? What let's go to the beginning.

SPEAKER_03 11:25

No problem.

SPEAKER_01 11:26

Let's go for go to the very beginnings. I don't know how old you were. How did your passion I mean, where did all this start? Who inspired your dad? Or did you see something on TV? And I I saw a few Barbie dolls out there, but you know, did your dad go here, have some Hot Wheels? How did all this start?

SPEAKER_04 11:48

That's we gotta go way back, Ron. We're gonna we're gonna go super farming. Oh, way back. I uh, you know, I think in general, I was never born into racing, I was never really around it growing up, but I was always super competitive. So any sport that was in season, sign up, throw me in coach, you know, sort of sort of deal. But I was never passionate or like really loved one thing until I found racing. And it really was just uh How did you find racing?

SPEAKER_01 12:16

What'd you what'd you see?

SPEAKER_04 12:17

I think I just saw an indie car race and thought this is the coolest thing ever. Yeah, so indie car. I went to my first indie car race when we were stationed at Fort Carson, Colorado. So my dad was in the army, so I grew up just moving around all the time. And I went to the indie car race. I met Elio Tashenevis in like Tom's autograph or like a hat from him. I don't I don't know why we're there. I need to ask you. I need to remember why we got like this treatment. I think uh they're doing a military thing, or or my dad just went. I don't know. But I went there and I was like, this is so cool, like what is racing? This is the coolest thing ever. And at the time, Dana Capatrick was like rising up and she was she was it, man. And like for me to see a female out there, I was like, what is this? This is so cool. How many? And I was probably 14. Wow, 14, 15, which I mean, honestly, that's pretty late in life to discover racing. You know, most people, I always say this like racing is a very generational sport. You're usually brought up in it, grown into it, your family's into it, it's family tradition, something. But I found it pretty late in life, and I was like, I want to do that. Where do I start? And somehow, I don't know how, but I got Lynn St. James's phone number off of Google. So she's one of like the pioneering female racetra drivers, like way back in the day, and she had a foundation to support women in racing and give grants and support. And I got her cell phone number, and this was this is probably 2009 or 2010. No, it had been like 2009 or 2008, um, early. And I don't know how I did it. I call her, I'm like, hey, I want to race, I want to be a race car driver. Like, this is what I want to do. Like, tag me in. And she's like, whoa, whoa, like, calm down. Like, that's really cute that you want to be a race car driver, you need to start somewhere first. You need to start in goat karts. So I was like, okay, like that's great. I have an answer, I have a path. And I my dad took me to the local goat cart track. I got like in one of their rentals, and my first laugh around a goat cart track, I knew I wanted to do that for the rest of my life. Like, nothing have ever has ever sucked me in like racing from a pure competition standpoint. Like you're you're on the track, you're you're going against yourself, you're doing against other people. You can always improve, it's never perfect. And then it also captivated me from the mechanical side and the hands-on side and the building and getting better, and it just and the a shot of adrenaline, you know, on top of all of that. So I fell in love pretty hard, pretty fast, and had a lot to figure out. Um, pretty much at 14. Yeah, by the time I, you know, my dad was stoked. He's like, Oh, you like this? Like, this is awesome. We ended up eventually down the road. Um, I did everything that I could to graduate high school early. And my dad, we found a used goat cart, a used race suit, and we had these like plastic sawhorses, and we'd load it up in the back of his truck and go to the local cartrad for practice. Eventually, when I was like 15, I started doing my first competitions. I think we won like my first ever race. Wow. And we pissed a lot of people off. Oh, nice! Because even at that time, you know, it's a it's a smack in the face of like, hey, this is an expensive sport. Like we were showing up with all our youth stuff, just me and my dad.

SPEAKER_01 15:46

And um sounds like a Lewis Hamilton kind of story right there.

SPEAKER_04 15:49

Well, it's crazy because like one, I'm so lucky that like my dad was pumped and supportive and like full crew chief mode, full we both just went in. He learned how to like rebuild the engine and everything, and we're showing up there, and this other 13-year-old has like a semi with five engines, like five chassis. I'm like, dang, like this is that's crazy. Like, this is this is an expensive sport, and we ended up beating a lot of people that had eat the teams like in goat parking, it's really, really competitive. But that was just like the beginning of it, and I was like, I want more, this is amazing. Um, and just the amount of stuff that you can learn, it's like the first thing that me and my dad are able to together like really dive in on, and I like I said, I knew I had would have a lot to figure out to advance it in any way from that point on, but I knew that that's what I wanted to do.

SPEAKER_01 16:40

Was there anybody or any family members that were like you you why why are you getting into racing? Why don't you do something else or you know, um do more girly things, so to speak? Was it did you have any naysayers on that as far as support is concerned?

SPEAKER_04 16:59

Not really, you know, being a military kid, you really just travel the US and the world sometimes with your parents, right? So I think I was so lucky that I never felt that from them. You know, I think I also grew up though with them getting me little engineering kits and like I like taking things apart, and like I was just in an environment that I can look back and appreciate a lot now that like was so open. And I also think being a military kid, I'm always moving from school to school, so I think I was never in one place long enough for stereotypes to set in. And looking back, I there was one point when I went to college that I was talking to middle school girls about STEM, and like so often stereotypes just make girls think they shouldn't like this or that or they shouldn't be good at math or science. And I think just the support I had at home and then constantly moving, that those thoughts never corrupted me, I guess. And yeah, so you were already steadfast.

SPEAKER_01 17:56

This is it, open meal, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 17:58

And my mom, like, she it's funny because I come from a family where there's professional dancers with all the women like before me, pretty much. So they they tried getting me into the dance. I think I probably hard quit when I was like 10 or something from being a kid, and like I'll just dance with cars, you know. I didn't know that at the time, but I just yeah, but first laps and joke cart so mom was into it too. Oh, yeah, rooting you on the cheerleader, day one. Like it was it was it was awesome, and I was super lucky for that. And um, yeah, I think my from then on, like I knew I was going to be a race car driver, I'm going to figure this out. I need to get out of school as fast as possible. Like for me, school was holding me back. It was like I needed to move somewhere, graduate, and make the next steps to actually pursue a racing career. So when I was 15, I basically did everything that I could to graduate a year later at 16.

SPEAKER_03 18:51

Wow.

SPEAKER_04 18:53

And that included going to regular high school, and then my high school had a program where they would bus you to a community college.

SPEAKER_05 18:59

Uh huh.

SPEAKER_04 19:00

And they had an automotive tech program that I would then go to the community college, do auto tech for a few hours, and then go to night school community college, like 8 to 9:30 p.m. to do regular basic courses to get extra credits, and I was doing online school at the same time. Shout out uh Kathy Mathinson's because she is my high school counselor and she helped put this puzzle together to get me out because I was like, I know what I want to do, let's graduate. Um, so I had a crazy last year of high school to just get out and graduated at 16, got a scholarship to do mechanical engineering at Embry Riddle in Daytona Beach. Uh-huh. And that to me was the best move to get in a state with a lot of racing in Daytona Beach, home in NASCAR, IMSA, tons of like teams out here. And at the time, they also had a jet dragster race program at Embry Riddle with a female driver. So I was like, this is this is calling my name, and I hustled to make that next step.

SPEAKER_01 20:01

So you were already intrigued not only with the dri the the high of driving, but the mechanical aspect of it too. So yeah, something you and your dad did together.

SPEAKER_04 20:11

Yeah, I think I was just always curious. I think like curiosity and then competitive in sports, and like I think you take a lot of those, yeah. You like you take those things, and racing is like the perfect drug, right? There's there's a little bit of this, a little bit of that, and it is pretty addicting pretty early on.

SPEAKER_01 20:29

How many years were you caring?

SPEAKER_04 20:31

Only a year and a half, two years. Year and a half, two years. Yeah, very fast. It's like I I got the dough cart, maybe 15 was starting to compete. In Colorado? Yeah, so I I competed uh I'm I Motorsports part and basically graduated high school within the year to just get out and like pursue this.

SPEAKER_01 20:51

Just based on that first indie race you saw in yeah, I mean that definitely introduced me to the sport, right?

SPEAKER_04 20:59

Where I was like, wow, this is so cool. Like I want to learn more, and what is this racing thing? And eventually found my way to landing myself in a doat car, bringing my dad out.

SPEAKER_01 21:10

What was it about indie and karting that you just love so much about? And the mechanical aspect. Why?

SPEAKER_04 21:18

Yeah, it's the competition, it's the fans, it's the team, it's the risk, it's like it's the awe factor, right? Like indie car, especially back then, was was huge. And also seeing a female driver like Danica doing well and and dominating, and like her in person too. Like she's she's shorter than me. She was tiny, you know, she is tiny. So I was just in the beginning very, very curious and wanting to know more. And then the closer and closer I got to it to then being in a seat, I never wanted to let go.

SPEAKER_05 21:50

So crazy.

SPEAKER_04 21:53

It is like when I talked about the timeline, it did happen so fast, and I almost look back like, where did all that come from? From like I think I'm lucky that I I'm definitely a bit stubborn. I'll admit that. But like I'm so glad that I was. Like if I look back, I'm like, damn, I don't know how I walked. I walked into some rooms and owned the place at 16, and like went to my high school counselor and told like the high school was it president or whatever the principal? Like, hey, I need to graduate in a year, what can we do? At 16, and I'm like thinking back, I'm like, wow, that's that's pretty ballsy, but it all worked out.

SPEAKER_01 22:29

So um, what at the time when you were first inspired, right? Inspired to go karting, right? What was your dream at the time, the goal?

SPEAKER_04 22:41

Before? Yeah, before carting, like before I even got into it.

SPEAKER_01 22:45

Or when you were got into carting, because you you were you were obviously uh a bat out of hell, right? I need to get the I need to get out, I need to get out of high school. I need to do this full-time. I want to go karting all the time, right? Is what what what was it that got you to just what was the goal? Yeah, what would you want to be indie car uh with with Danica Patrick and that sort of thing?

SPEAKER_04 23:12

Indy car was the goal, and I think you know, obsessing over you know, Ari and Senna, Schumacher back then, and just like the the These are drivers you looked up to, yeah. And like just everything IndyCar was accessible, it was huge back then, accessible as an in in the US, you know, we're not talking F1, and I was so captivated by it, like that was the goal, and for me that those were the next steps, like transitioning from dope cart. That's where you start. And the beginning years of my career, I was pursuing IndyCar. You know, I ended up making my first pro race, it was on the Mazda Road to Indy Really system in USF 2000. Um, and before then, just I mean, there's there's a lot that happened after the move to Florida, but that got me to Florida where I just went to almost every single SCCA race between you know, seabring, uh, homestead, walking around, like introducing myself to people, learning more, like just shaking hands. I thought that's how it worked, right? I knew nothing. You know, I thought it was about just like meeting people, and it it's especially at that level, it's mostly just about money and maybe some ride opportunities, but like I I had the same shoes, my Converse, that I walked so many miles in, just introduced myself, calling 1-800 numbers of like spy. I remember calling 1-800 about a sponsorship. They did end up sending me glasses and stuff, so that was technically my first uh sponsor. But like just I moved here, started college, and I was like, all right, how the hell am I gonna do this?

SPEAKER_01 24:35

Were you still talking to uh that cell phone number you got in the beginning? What's her name?

SPEAKER_04 24:39

Well, yeah, I would update her and what was happening, and I just I went into full eventually I realized yes, it's a capital problem. The passion's there, there's there's raw talent, but it needs to be developed, and you can't develop it without money. Like straight up. Racing is an expensive sport. And um, you know, I realized very fast I had to learn business, so I minored in business and figured out okay, I need to learn how to write pitches, make make decks, call companies, write emails, hack LinkedIn. Like I LinkedIn was still early, and I like made my LinkedIn profile and figured out how do I get to people in the company that make the decisions and all this stuff, right? At 16, and I'm also a freshman um in college there. And eventually, fast forward a bit, I pitched the president of the university and his wife a hands-on mechanical engineering program to bring students to the track that got me in a car so that the students could come to the track and learn from the race car that I'm in because they had the Jet Dragster racing program there, and Amber Riddle was mostly known for aerospace engineering and pilots. So mechanical engineering was three years old by the time I got there, and they didn't have a race program that was applied to mechanical engineering specifically. So I pitched that, and that was my first big sponsor.

SPEAKER_01 25:57

Like, so at 16 hustling at 16, got it done.

SPEAKER_04 26:02

But it was because I did all those miles walking around. I met Ron Stanley, who's my first ever team owner, and he had a car. I needed a little bit of funding, and he he helped get me in that car too, though. Like, I Ron, you know, he he supported me so much, and my parents, and like it was to have that chance with a race team, and I just needed a little bit of funding, put the program together. It I needed to do everything that I did for it to eventually come together. But that was one of my first bid partners that got me in a car, SCCA, like national level. Um, set the track record, I think, by the end of the season, got second championship that year. And mind you, when I first set foot in that car, I think there's video somewhere, I didn't even know how to drive a manual transmission.

unknown 26:49

What the?

SPEAKER_04 26:50

I kept stalling, and Ron will talked about this moment because he he's like, Alright, get in my car. And I was like, okay. And I was at Seabring and it died probably 15 times, if not more. Uh-huh. And he kind of caught it. And I just kept small. I just kept, I just kept doing it, kept doing it, and then eventually um I drove it and fit figured it the hell out. So uh yeah, it's kind of it's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 27:14

I saw of hustling, hustling, hustling, right? Getting your dream to fruition, right? I saw on on YouTube that you went to Silicon Valley to look for funding.

SPEAKER_04 27:27

Yeah, so I mean eventually, you know, we'll fast forward. I think I was 18 by the time I ended up moving to Silicon Valley. But by then, you know, I'd gotten a deal with Ember Riddle, I'd gotten a few other like partnership deals, still meeting new teams. I think by then I I had also debuted on Mazdoro to Indy, basically had enough funding to support me making my pro debut on the Mazdoro to Indy, which is you know, the ladder system for IndyCar. There's one, two, three, IndyCar. And at 16 or almost 17, I was in an IndyCar driver's meeting with Dan to Patrick. Like at the next table. No, I didn't say anything. I was like, I don't like being that I just don't like contributing to like the oh my gosh, no, and like you're in the professional setting, I'm like, I'm here as a driver, but that moment, I will remember that for forever. Like, I was like, holy sh like for here, and yeah, making my debut on Maz Road to Indy, and it's very expensive, so I did like the first race, but these were all just steps in the right direction. And by the time it was beginning of my junior year for mechanical engineering, I really realized that if I'm going to do this, I need to learn business. I need to be an expert in business. Mechanical engineering degree is great. I convinced Embery Riddle to let me, as a freshman at 16, already take the senior level mechanical engineering classes because of my racing experience, which at the time I'll admit now it was like go-karts and a few tests and race cars. So I'd already done the hands-on mechanical engineering stuff. Like I didn't need English and you know, everything else. It just to me it was a waste of time, and I needed to become a master in business. So I ended up meeting Tim Draper, who's a legendary venture capitalist in Silicon Valley. He gave me a scholarship to be in his first class of Draper University of Heroes. And it was entrepreneur school. So you basically you fly out, I draw a scholarship for it, you live in downtown San Mateo in this crazy hotel that they renovated with like superhero murals everywhere, and it's insane. And this was opportunity of a lifetime. I packed my car and dropped out of school beginning my junior year. But everything on the line to do this, because I just I had to do it. And in the three months, like I'm learning from Vivek Randeviv, who is the owner of Sacramento Kings, legendary Tet Giant, Larry Page from Doodle, we're going and getting a tour from Elon Musk at Tesla. Like, these are the people coming in and giving us lectures on business. It was the most insane, incredible experience of my entire life. Like, I am it was mind-blown. The amount of people that I made, I mean, Tim himself was there with us every single day because we were the first class. So every day he was there giving us the lesson lessons, having these crazy challenges thrown at us. We're split into teams. We had to create, we're all basically working on our own business, and you eventually pitch a panel of VCs. But we do survival training. We're like, they're like you have a hundred bucks and you have to get somewhere, loot Skywalker's ranch to be survival trained with a ranger, you know, for like a week, and we had to eat or kill what we ate. It was crazy, man. Like it was the most life-changing thing you've ever done, and I'm so glad that I did it because like taking that risk is what got me more into place.

SPEAKER_01 30:51

Explains all this. I mean, my gosh.

SPEAKER_04 30:54

So and I was still pursuing racing, you know. My startup at the time was my brand as a racing driver. Like, that was my concept, that was what I was there for. And moving out there, like really getting a deep dive on business, the networking, the partnerships, um, learning like marketing from huge companies. Like Uber was just launching, then it was completely life-changing, and my parents were definitely scared.

SPEAKER_01 31:20

Really?

SPEAKER_04 31:21

Why to make that decision to drop out of the bottom?

SPEAKER_01 31:24

Oh, as a 16 to 18-year-old going out there, okay.

SPEAKER_04 31:27

But I also had a scholarship for Ember Riddle. When you drop out, you don't get that badge.

SPEAKER_01 31:31

Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_04 31:32

So, like turning that down, I knew I wasn't gonna be able to get it back.

SPEAKER_01 31:39

Um what were the parents thinking?

SPEAKER_04 31:41

They were, you know, they're a little stressed, but I also I learned so much with Emory Riddle, like, and I helped develop that program, and like they were one of my early partners, and like I even talked to them, they completely like understood and supported, you know, and yeah, I would definitely look back at things and say that was crucial for anything else to happen.

unknown 32:02

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 32:03

I couldn't help but notice. Um, is that your suit there when you were 16 to 18 years old?

SPEAKER_04 32:08

Uh yeah, yeah, Moz Road to Indy.

SPEAKER_01 32:10

Road to Indy.

SPEAKER_04 32:11

I actually just found that the other day. So yeah, it's pretty crazy, but um yeah, Twitchly learned.

SPEAKER_01 32:18

So that's the OG suit right there.

SPEAKER_04 32:19

Yeah, that's my first ever race suit that I ever had. I thought it was the coolest thing ever. I couldn't believe it. Uh Alpine Stars actually sent it to me. And uh yeah, actually the company I was also working with, beat by a girl.org.

SPEAKER_05 32:33

I get it.

SPEAKER_04 32:35

We actually taught carting and like other entry-level uh things to young girls. We'd bring them to like a local cart track, give them instruction, and it's beat by a girl.org, which is very no cooper tires.

SPEAKER_01 32:46

Yeah, middle or nothing. Yeah, right there you know, but yeah, this is my first episode. This is pretty OG. How many race my gosh? That and uh what was the special shoes that you went walking for networking? What kind of shoes?

SPEAKER_04 33:01

I have my Converse 30 too, yeah. Wow, so it was so up, like the time, so I put like live and race on them, you know, like on the little tow cars. I thought it was so edgy and cool, but got a lot of miles on those.

SPEAKER_01 33:16

So after doing your time in Silicon Valley, right, and um didn't you get on, yeah, you got on TV on K Ron, a local channel. What was that about?

SPEAKER_04 33:27

Yeah, I mean, so this whole moving to Silicon Valley, you know, I still have to make money to survive and live as a human. So while I was going to school at Draper University, I was coding websites and like making money on the side, doing that and working on my business, and then eventually doing I'd been doing decks and marketing and pitches then for a few years. So I started doing it for other companies like in Silicon Valley to make money, um, and still taking racing opportunities. There'd be a test day here with like an MCED team or Dr. Drive and RX8 or another test day with an open wheel car, SCA SCCA race in a random open wheel car. Like there's by then I'd have a lot of those one-off points, but it is so hard to hit a full season, like funded. Yeah, pursuing Mazdro to India, it's expensive. Like and this was this was like over a decade ago. So it goes uh quarter million dollars, half a million, maybe 400,000, 1.2 million, four to seven million. Like that that's the ladder that I was looking at, and I had all the numbers, I knew the budgets, I met with all the teams, and I'm like, how the hell do I do this? Right.

SPEAKER_01 34:38

So what do you do now?

SPEAKER_04 34:39

I keep doing my thing, doing tests, showing that I can drive different teams than I could, and then eventually Red Bull Global Rally Cross became a thing.

SPEAKER_01 34:50

Oh, that's right.

SPEAKER_04 34:51

And that to me changed everything. So, you know, Ken Block, I looked up to him huge. Like he he started racing. Yeah, he started racing later in life. He's a marketing genius, built huge, successful, cool companies, and was able to bring that vibe into motorsports on like it's never been done before. So and it completely flipped the model of it just being about money to being about cool shit, content, marketing, and like sick driving.

SPEAKER_01 35:22

So 2018, right? You're you're doing open wheel, right? Lots of money, lots of earlier. But yeah, lots of money, lots of money. Now, how did you pivot? What how did the rally cross thing come about?

SPEAKER_04 35:39

To me, I'm looking at rally crossing.

SPEAKER_01 35:41

You're what 18, 19?

SPEAKER_04 35:43

Yeah, 18, 19, probably at that time because it came here in 20, I don't know, maybe 2014, but my first year is 2015. But I saw this, and I'm like, one 10 block, Travis Pastrana, Bucky Lasik, Legends, Sick Racing, way cheaper, but also way freaking cooler, way marshable. I was like, I can sell that. You know how hard it is to sell USF 2000 feeder series with no audience watching is hard. Um, so I saw this for it, captivated by it. Obviously, 10 blocks, huge inspiration, and that became what I was pitching to do. And at the time, I was working for a venture capital fund running their partnerships and basically put together a whole pitch that would bring together the startup side, a bunch of our partners on the venture capital side, so like huge companies, Microsoft, um, bunch of companies, and have GRC and the racing program be this link to hospitality, schmoozing, driver experiences. At the time, VR was huge, content production, and they took it. So before I knew it, I come in, it's like 9 p.m. Like, we're always at the office late. I put together this pitch I was like, this is a sport, it's insane, it's sold out, content opportunity is great. We can have hospitality to schmooze our partners.

SPEAKER_01 37:01

So you're pitching all this though?

SPEAKER_04 37:02

I'm pitching it because I in partnerships. I mean, this fund, we would have a suite for the super oh by the way, don't use the word sponsorship.

SPEAKER_01 37:09

Notice she's using partnership.

SPEAKER_04 37:12

I in running partnerships for this VC fund, we would be connecting startups and VCs and people interested to invest in anything all the time. And we'd have a suite at the Warriors, a suite at the Super Bowl. We were doing these elaborate things, that's just kind of how it works over there. So I was like, okay, let's take that same model of hospitality and bringing together startups and other venture funds or investors, and let's just do it in racing. And it's a different environment, it's unique. Um, we were investing heavily in VR at the time, so we're also gonna use it as a platform to capture VR, and that's all this so that we can go.

SPEAKER_01 37:46

You went rally cross racing.

SPEAKER_04 37:47

I pitched a full season of Global Rally Cross. My first year I was uh racing with Brian Herta, who I'd even talked to way before that on like the sports car open meal side of things, and it was pretty much an immediate yes by the time I got done talking and explaining how everything works, and I like I couldn't believe leaving that room, and I was like, holy shit, like this is gonna be my first full season of racing ever. And professional racing, like this was live stream Red Bull TV, huge, freaking 10. Like I said, the first audraft signing with 10 block. That was another one of those, like I did do some thinking about it of like okay, being in the room, Dan Patrick was there, like 16, and then now I'm at an audraft signing with Ken Blocked. He's actually right next to me. I have the photo, and I was like, I was trying to be cool, you know. I was trying to freak out. But on the inside, I'm like, oh my god, get me right next to me, get the block into me. This is like my the people I would say if I had to choose someone to look up to, it was Ken Blocked and Mark Cuban, like at the time. Mark and he was there Travisrana, Bucky Laced, and it's so cool. I'm doing a lot more stuff with Travis and Bucky now to like just throw back to like that era. But I was like, this is reasonably priced, it is an awesome demographic, it's millennial, like it's it's the perfect demographic that people want to reach. It's exciting, it's so sick. And at that time, they went in downtown. We raced downtown Fort Lauderdale, like downtown Vegas, downtown Detroit. It was the sickest thing ever.

SPEAKER_01 39:18

And how was the transition from uh open wheel to uh rally?

SPEAKER_04 39:23

I had a really good team. I had what was the name of the team? Uh Brian Herda. Okay. So uh I had a half a day of testing before I was thrown into the first event at downtown Fort Lauderdale, and um it was it was insane. I think I I made it to the finals. I think I was leading a few laps.

SPEAKER_01 39:42

So the the transition from on-road open wheel to off-road was seamless?

SPEAKER_04 39:47

It wasn't that bad because at the time GRC was mostly 80% asphalt. Oh and it was only it was a small amount of dirt, which was I freaking look. And there's a jump. So like if anything, the learning how to fly a car. How was that? There was no way to practice that aside from there in real time, and it's like, oh my god, like it's downtown, like everyone's watching. It's the coolest feeling ever. And like the the biggest thing I learned is like a bite, it's just like don't lift. So when they said that, it's so funny. I actually remember with Herda, they're like, Colette, okay, your first lap around, you can't lift, like, don't lift whatsoever. I did exactly what they said, and they're like, Okay, you can go a little slower, maybe that's why I cleared it's like a hundred-foot tabletop jump, almost cleared it, like straight up landing. It was the sickest thing ever. Um, and I yeah, I just I fell in the relics is so sick, and it's like 10 laps, it's all or nothing. There, you're three wide donate in the first corner. Like, there was so much to learn my first year, and my first race during the the race, I was leading some laps, and then I actually got pushed off the ramp. This 100 foot, it's 11, 12 feet high. And the guy coming out of the Joker, it's called it a Joker. You give wave to whoever's in front when you take it, you have to take it once in the final. And he just straight drove me off. I got pushed off the ramp, wedged on the side 11 feet up, just hanging in my car, and I had to be like jaws of life. They pulled the car out. It was insane. And they built all the tracks differently, thanks to me. Uh, thanks thanks to what happens. But even that moment that every I got I got pulled out. The whole thing, I'm like there.

SPEAKER_01 41:25

What was going through your mind after you crashed? I was like after you got pushed out, she didn't crash, you got pushed out.

SPEAKER_04 41:31

I'm hanging in there. I'm like, that's bullshit. Like, how's the car? How's the car? What are we gonna do? What are we gonna do? Get back out here. Like, I'm already like talking to them about that, and they pulled me out. I remember multiple teams were coming around. It was like such an insane moment that like they were duct taping me back. The door was screwed, they're duct taping me into the car. They I didn't have reverse, all the fans, we had like maybe a hundred fans around and teams, and it was insane. And we made it back out there. Um, we got on back on the line. I was really pissed as they didn't realize what happened at first, so they had me start in the back. I'm like, this bullshit. They later said sorry. Um, but restarted the race, jumped up to fifth or fourth from the back, eventually got detued with one lapse jode as my door was falling off. So they blash flagged me. But I was like, holy talk about an adrenaline rush, the coolest thing ever, your flying cars, your cross dirt, pavement, and that was my Walton Rallycross, and it was sick.

SPEAKER_01 42:27

You pitched the deal, wrote the deck, got people to finance it, got the drive rally cross, right? Full season, and my hat's off to you. Damn, damn, obviously uh pitched the deal, wrote the deck, got people to fund it, got a whole season rally cross next to the who's who rally cross, and drove it. Wow.

SPEAKER_04 43:00

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 43:01

I'm anxious. And mind you, mind you, you were only in your teens.

SPEAKER_04 43:06

Yeah, I think I was 18, 18, probably at the time. And then we also had to coordinate the whole hospitality program with all the venture capitalists and the startups, and it was crazy. But like we freaking did it, and it was kind of an insane part of my life and changed a lot going forward for sure.

SPEAKER_01 43:24

Impressive because at 18 and n when I was 18 and 19, I was getting drunk at keg parties in the backyard of something and not doing shit. I got more questions. Let's check out the rest of your shops.

SPEAKER_03 43:35

Let's do it.

SPEAKER_01 43:41

Check out this room.

SPEAKER_04 43:43

This is the front room.

SPEAKER_01 43:45

All right, we have you the first lounge, great.

SPEAKER_04 43:48

Okay, it's like the entry service desk area. So that's what it originally is. So it has like the cutout, so you can see into the main lounge, and then you can also see into the shop, which is awesome. And we also had to Renovate this room as well.

SPEAKER_01 44:03

So obviously, if this was like a retail shop, this is a admin counter.

SPEAKER_04 44:09

But this is kind of just like a front office for admin support as well. And then Jared has his office up here too.

SPEAKER_05 44:17

Where did you get this?

SPEAKER_04 44:18

It was actually a gift from Duarte. Oh. Yeah. Yeah, it's so cool.

SPEAKER_01 44:25

And yet outside of the shop, right? Because it I I described it as a lair, right? There's no signage whatsoever. It's unassuming. But when you finally get in, just like, oh very cool. What kind of what what happens in this what what kind of magic happens in this room?

SPEAKER_04 44:45

I mean, probably just admin support in the front. You can see when like packages are coming in, and just if anyone tries coming in. And then I also just kind of bounce around between working here, working in the lounge, working back in the media place.

SPEAKER_01 44:59

Oh, that's cool. It's your Hot Wheel.

SPEAKER_04 45:01

Yeah, a fan from Australia made that for me when I was drifting over there last year, and it is the coolest thing ever.

SPEAKER_01 45:07

That is cool.

SPEAKER_04 45:08

Yeah, I love that.

SPEAKER_01 45:10

And you got uh a hot wheels of your FC. That is sick.

SPEAKER_04 45:17

Launched last year. That was many, many years in the making.

SPEAKER_01 45:22

I mean, to have your own hot wheel.

SPEAKER_04 45:24

I mean, that's so glitter on it. It's so cool.

SPEAKER_01 45:29

And it's sort of the same colors as the FC.

SPEAKER_04 45:33

Yeah, yeah, that was that was like one of the coolest gifts ever.

SPEAKER_01 45:36

Oh, look at this. Oh, you're done.

SPEAKER_04 45:40

Yeah, Jared animated a series of posters for all of the animals here at Clut Racing.

SPEAKER_01 45:47

Not that we should encourage anybody to be drinking your dog or anything like that, but this is cool.

SPEAKER_04 45:51

That's cute. You know, well, he originally only did one for Pete and I was like, oh my gosh, every animal needs their own. Ollie fashioned.

SPEAKER_05 45:58

Victoria's dog.

SPEAKER_04 46:01

Rally Rita.

SPEAKER_05 46:03

Of course.

SPEAKER_04 46:04

And then our cat, Takutini.

SPEAKER_05 46:08

Nice.

SPEAKER_04 46:09

I don't know where these are gonna live yet, but they're really cute.

SPEAKER_01 46:13

Oh man, this this is.

SPEAKER_04 46:14

But most most people know Pete. So Pete is also pit dog Pete. And when I rescued him, it was actually I rescued him a couple days after signing, uh, maybe a couple months after signing my GRC deal. And my parents thought I was crazy. They're like, you just signed like your first full-time deal, and we went actually here to Florida for my first ever test with my new team.

SPEAKER_05 46:39

Wow.

SPEAKER_04 46:40

And I just rescued him straight onto a plane, and he's been going to racetracks ever since. And off the name Pit Dog Pete. So it's been over a decade.

SPEAKER_01 46:48

So you go rally racing, but what's next after that?

SPEAKER_04 46:53

Oh man. So I did about a little less than a year and a half of GRC. That was right before the series actually unfortunately went under. You know, not because it wasn't doing well. There's just other back-end things that the series vanished like overnight. I think 20 ended 2016, right? 2017. And midway through though, um to pivot again. Yeah, and like my second year too. I it finally a lot clicked for me. You know, I was starting P3, P2, fighting for the lead again, like the next race, and like to have my season end early for other reasons as well. It it sucked, right? So I felt like I had to go back to the drawing board and and figure things out. At the same time, I got a call, like right when all this happened, to go host a TV show on primetime, 7 p.m. Friday nights, TLC.

SPEAKER_01 47:47

And what was that show about?

SPEAKER_04 47:48

It was TLC. Yeah, it was crazy. And like I've never hosted a show before. And neither have I. Of course, I'm like, yeah, yeah, let's do it. Uh I'm I got this. And it was like divine timing, right? Because like this heartbreak just happened mid-season of racing, and then I got this other opportunity to also just make money, right? And live. Um, and the show was called Girl Starter, and it was basically Shark Tank meets the apprentice for young female entrepreneurs. So they're fighting and competing over funding for their business, and we put them through a bunch of different challenges. We had a bunch of different CEOs come in. The feet there was a female CEO of Staples at the time, she was a guest. Uh, Vera Bradley came on, a bunch of marketing people as well, and it was insane. But also, I had no idea what I was really showing up for, which is day one. There's a teleprompter. I never used a teleprompter before. There's 50 people on setups.

SPEAKER_01 48:43

By the way, this show is not done with the teleprompter.

SPEAKER_04 48:45

No, yeah, no, no teleprompter here, but it was like it was another one of those feelings. I was like, man, like I haven't felt this in a while. Like, it is everything was new, and I had to figure it out. And I lived in New York City to film the show for two and a half months.

SPEAKER_05 48:59

Wow.

SPEAKER_04 49:01

And it was a crazy experience. I loved every section of it, even though it was it was insane. My mom actually flew out and stayed with me during that time, and it was like the perfect opportunity at the perfect time. Um, shortly after that, I got a call to go audition for Monster Jam, which is Monster Jam. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:21

Open Wheel, Rally Cross, right? And then a TLC show. And mind you, you weren't even 20 yet, right? And then now you got Monster Jam. Yeah, it was like I said I couldn't help but notice at that you have a Monster Jam trophy up there.

SPEAKER_04 49:41

Yeah, though I had my Monster Jam era, but it's like I think a big theme throughout everything is you know, it got sparked by this one goal, this one dream, this one obsession, right? In racing. And I had to pivot a lot along the way to make it happen. There was no straight path, and I was learning as I went, trial by fire, and when other doors closed, I found other ones that opened, and they didn't just open though, it's like it's just attributed to just staying on the grind every day, like finding other things to do in the meantime, and constantly staying motivated. And with monster trucks, a lot of people don't know this, but there's a place called Monster Jam University, and they actually audition and where's this at? It's in kind of middle nowhere, uh kind of an hour outside of Chicago, I believe. And it's Tom Mentz, who's the Max D driver, it's his backyard basically. So, Monster Jam University, they try out hundreds of drivers from all different genres every single year. And if you make it past the first tryout, you get invited back, and it's another week of training, and you're competing with everyone around you. Like, I I'm really surprised there's not a TV show about this process because it was intense. As you know, everyone you're with is your competition.

SPEAKER_01 50:56

What was what were what what were you doing? What was so intense about it?

SPEAKER_04 51:01

You you just had to figure it out. They basically had all these drivers here because uh it was an audition. I didn't have the job. Um, you go there, they put you, we're all in these unmarked trucks, and Tom Menz is on the radio, and we're just seeing what you can do, seeing if you can hit obstacles, seeing if you take feedback, seeing how naturally talented you are at I mean, monster trucks, you drive with one hand and the rear is controlled on a toggle switch, it's called rear steer, and they send you loose and then they weed you out. So I made it past the first audition, got called bad for another week, more attempts, better drivers. Made it past that one, and then I got two weeks of training when they called me back for the third time, which mind you, you look back to my career, most of my races, even I did a bunch of different open-wheel SECA races throughout the years, random sports cars. I almost never had practice. Like, practice costs money, and the fact that in Monster Jam, that was the first time I had two weeks of training, it was paid for, and if I got the job, I would get paid to drive. Like, I didn't I didn't have to figure it all out, like figure out my paycheck and pitch the debt and all this stuff. So that was insane. I got the job.

SPEAKER_01 52:08

What were you thinking? Just like you climb into this.

SPEAKER_04 52:11

It was just so cool, you know.

SPEAKER_01 52:13

Like, there's I started up, and what was going through your mind on what you're gonna do with the monster truck?

SPEAKER_04 52:22

I think that I apply this to all the genres of racing. I just look at it as if he can do it, so can I. Well what I just listen, I just listen to Tom Mintz. Uh he's literally one of the most legendary drivers.

SPEAKER_01 52:34

He's already so he was instructing you on what to do with the truck.

SPEAKER_04 52:36

Yeah, everyone. So he's basically your it's his backyard essentially, where they have the full facility built out, and he's on the radio with you, he's telling you the tactics, telling you what to do. And a lot of times it's scary because you don't know the feeling until you do it. You don't know that this log ride, this log wall that's huge that you're looking at is like, okay, 100% gas, right ride on it, drive through it and go up into the air. And mind you, this is 12,000 pounds and wait, 20 feet long or 15 feet long. I know what it was for truck, but okay, and like you the only way to get to their side is doing it, and like you're feeling these things for the first time, and I'm just like, if he can do it, I can do it. I'm gonna do exactly what he says. I'm really good at feedback in the car and listening, and like I love data and seeing data. That's the same thing in sports car racing. I would make the most of my laps because I would have another driver's data and be like, you need to be a hundred feet later on the brakes, more pressure here, brake later, and I just do it. So the same thing in Monster Trash. I was like, he said, I can do it, I'm gonna do it. And it was crazy like the feedback, the air, the dough, like the racing that you do, and they eventually I made it through, I got the job essentially, and then my first ever event, I was in the El Toro Loco. The bowl, and it was insane. I think I I won racing, and I had like I was like in the finals with Graviditter on my second event in the same weekend, and that was my first event championship that I won. So, with that, they then bumped me up and assigned me the Wonder Woman truck. So I was El Toro Loco, then I got uh El Toro Loco, El Toro Loco, the bull, which is awesome to start with, learned a lot. And my mind you by then I had training, I had sea time. I never really had that amount of time because it was funded, it was a tryout, and like I had this huge opportunity, so I think I adapted really fast. So my first ever event in El Toro Loco was able to win my second night, and then I got promoted to the Wonder Woman truck, which was brand new and launching, and it was launching with Warner Brothers and the new movie coming out, so like that was huge. Like, from I was doing all these like news interviews and so you'd have to dress up like Wonder Woman? I had a Wonder Woman race suit, which is really cool, and yeah, I was able to like be on the full tour with Wonder Woman, won a few different like event championships, went to the Vegas like world finals, and had this whole monster truck era. And at this same time, I bought my first drip car, my first project car to be working on as I was doing monster truck.

SPEAKER_01 55:18

And what was that drip car?

SPEAKER_04 55:20

It was my Arc 7.

SPEAKER_01 55:21

Wow, that's the one sitting right over there.

SPEAKER_04 55:25

So the monster truck stuff was so cool, it was definitely an era.

SPEAKER_01 55:28

Um well, it's just so odd because open wheel, rally cross, and then you know what? I think we're gonna jump into monster.

SPEAKER_04 55:34

At least I was on dirt a little bit beforehand, you know? It's like at the end of the day, they're all machines, and there's experts that know how to drive them that can help you if you're willing to learn.

SPEAKER_01 55:43

But not many people uh have that accolade, which I think is freaking cool, right? Uh you drove monster trucks and you did tricks with them.

SPEAKER_04 55:54

Oh yeah, so I I was the best at the tricks actually. I caught on to them really fast with doing, I would do like a the poppers. I could stand it up, land on the two wheels, stall the car, and then like walk it a little bit, and then I had to do a reverse popper where I like flip the truck. You're doing a handstand and you have to balance it. And like you're doing all this with one hand, trying to like okay, first second, first second, first second, reverse, and like figuring this stuff out. But I love two-wheel still was like the challenge. That was my favorite. So you'd have the you would fly to Chicago and practice those tricks in the guy's backyard, and then practice at an event, which I did the arena tour at first, which is really hard because it's a very it's small area, and like monster jam doesn't play around. Like, if you hit a bleacher, it's like a hundred grand damage, they'll bench people, so like you're with everybody, it's it's a job, right? At the end of the day, like we're there to compete and drive our best, but also like people were benched for like not driving well. And I was in the triple threat series, which meant I drove the monster truck. You would run, change outfits, I would compete in the UTV and the ATV all in one event. It was crazy.

SPEAKER_01 57:02

So wow, that just adds more to your residence.

SPEAKER_04 57:05

Uh-uh. I was like, I'm not trying to go on an ATV, just like me up against like 200-pound dudes. They they didn't get any weight for mine, and it was crazy. I was like, I am not.

SPEAKER_01 57:14

Yeah, there's no protection.

SPEAKER_04 57:16

Yeah, so like that was a big learning curve for me. I struggled for a while with the ATV part of it, but the ATV was born.

SPEAKER_01 57:23

So you had mentioned that you got an FC, right? Um, why did you're doing monster trucks, I get- I get it, right? But why what inspired you to get an FC? A Mazda FC Rotary?

SPEAKER_04 57:41

I my first ever car was an RX8.

SPEAKER_01 57:44

Really?

SPEAKER_04 57:45

So that was a car I picked out in college. I didn't know it at the time, but rotaries are a Puerto Rican thing. It's a very Puerto Rican thing. I'm half Puerto Rican.

SPEAKER_01 57:55

You're half Puerto Rican?

SPEAKER_04 57:57

So honestly, rotaries were in my blood. I had no idea at the time, but I gravitated toward an RX 8 as my first car.

SPEAKER_01 58:03

So naturally, when I looked at drifting, Rotaries and being Puerto Rican are one and the same.

SPEAKER_04 58:09

Pretty much and uh naturally when looking at the rotaries. I didn't even I thought that the RX8 was so cool and it sounded cool, and it had this like different engine, you know. I like I wasn't super into them when I got it. That's just what I gravitated towards too.

SPEAKER_01 58:25

And you couldn't help it, it was in the jeans.

SPEAKER_04 58:27

No, yeah, but and now looking back, I'm like, that's so funny because like it was it was in my blood the whole time. But looking into drifting, at that time I was just like, man, I just want a car that I can build and go compete in a genre somewhere. Drifting was again rising, even more popular. And to me, drifting was the closest thing, demographic and marketing and sales pitch-wise, to what GRC was yonder crowd, high action. Oh, so you already knew the analytics, yeah, and like obviously the style too in drifting. I was like, this is so awesome, and I could maybe build my car, get my own seat time. I've never had that, I've never had the ability to just go drive, and I'm like, if I own this thing, I can run it, I can practice more, and I can work my way up to the highest level of drifting. This was the first step.

SPEAKER_01 59:12

How did you first discover drifting? What was the first thing you witnessed? Just like how you witnessed uh IndyCar in in Colorado, how did you first find out about drifting?

SPEAKER_04 59:26

Online. Yeah, I raced for Reese Millen my my last year in GRC. I mean, he was huge drifting back then, so being exposed to it and just thinking again, it has that wow factor and the style and the flair, and you know, especially getting the inspiration from Japan, like the colors, the everything about it was so aspirational and exciting.

SPEAKER_01 59:49

Looked on the internet and said, This is for me. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 59:51

And to me, I saw it as a potential path to build something, express myself in a creative way, get hands-on again, and that be maybe a platform that I could build and advance my skill to the highest level eventually. You know, right at first it's just hey, I want to I want a project car. I did been many years since I was an automotive tech in community college at 16. When you're racing this entire time doing monster trucks, doing sports cars, doing open wheel stuff, you don't touch the car. You're on a pro team, you're not getting hands-on, you're not in the weeds, you did not touch anything on the monster trucks.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:26

So you're already hungry to get your hands on something.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:28

Just like, hey, have a have an outlet to work on cars again, and also thinking this would be a great path to possibly pursue.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:36

And so you got an FC. Yeah. So let's go check it out.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:39

No, fun fact. Oh. Did you know Ron actually ran an RX8 for many years and who the driver was? No.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:45

Oh, you didn't know? No. Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:47

So Ron. So Ron, can you tell us a little bit? Oh my gosh. Educate Colette on your history about the RX 8.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:53

All right. Funny thing you should mention that your first love was an RX8, right? Back in this how old I am. Back in 2008, uh, funded by Ma uh, you know, one of the major backers was Mazda. We built a three-rotor 1100 horsepower RX8, right? At first it was JTP driving, and then Jun Mang, and then Chelsea Danafa.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:19

What?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:19

And that with Chelsea Danafa buying the wheel, that car hauled fucking ass.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:26

I had no idea. Yeah, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:28

The Bergenholtz RX 8.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:30

Yeah, the Bergen. If you look up Bergenholtz RX8, right? There's all kinds of content on that, right? And uh we were we were Mazda at the time, we first started off with Apex. Apex RX7 FD with uh uh Rujimiki 2004 D1 Champion. Okay. And so we're we got in the drift in 07, 08 with an FD, right? Imamura. Imamura's old car. Apex owned the car, we funded it. And then Mazda goes, uh, well, you know, can can you drive a newer car? Alright, alright. If you want us to drive a newer car and promote what you're selling now, alright, that's fine. We need funding. So we built something fucking stupid, and it's the car you like, RX8. Two-rotor wasn't happening, so we put a big womp and three-rotor in it with a big womp and turbo, right? And use that to compete in Formula D. You know, unfortunately, uh things, you know, I was getting any younger at the time, and I couldn't. I guess, you know, I'll I'll be the first to say my my taste as a team, I enjoy watching drift. There's no doubt about it. I enjoy the entertainment, value everything, right? But as a team owner, it's rough. It's rough, and especially at the time uh Chelsea Danaffa was maturing nice, keeping keeping from crashing. Yeah, um I was just like, I can't handle this anymore, just all the carnage in drag racing for me. You know, you don't wreck the car. You know what I mean? When you when Chelsea Danofa went up went up against Daigo Saido in our car, I mean he was all out well. As he's gonna be. Yeah, and he's at all times. He's never lift, right? And I was just like, nah, yeah, it's over for me. But yeah, we built a crazy RX8 drift car on the edge of the rules. Um at the time it was uh another tech director. It's like, no, no, that's you can't do that, you can edit it. And for me, I like to work in the gray area.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:43

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:44

Right? And so we built a crazy ass RX8.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:47

Yeah, like engineer the angle kit, like changing.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:50

Everything, yeah. We made everything our own. This was before uh what's that European company called uh the one that built all the angles. Well, before Wise Fabian existed, so we had to build everything ourselves, and all the engineering behind that, you know, everybody's building S13, S14, S15 stuff, but with they didn't make anything for an RX8, so we had to figure it out all ourselves. But one thing's for sure, with Chelsea Danafa driving that car, it was fucking nuts.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:19

Wait, what was if you can say it, what was like the most gray area thing?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:23

Oh it wasn't a unibody anymore.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:26

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:27

It if I were to remove all the panels, the roof was removable, the A-pillars were removable, it looked like a uh a dune buggy.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:36

Yeah, and but it wasn't light, you know what I mean? Like standard issue for FD is an inch and a half, uh, inch and uh inch and a half uh tubular structure for the cage. I built mine inch and three-quarters so you can road race it. So it was a dual-purpose vehicle. That way you can go if you wanted to uh enter SCCA, you can do it, it'll pass the rules. If you want to enter an FD, you can enter an FD. And then our claim to fame was we had the shock absorber bash bars with a potentiometer on it. So the moment Chelsea or JTP was the first person he tried it, when he was at Irwindale and he hit the wall, one one light would come on. Oh, okay. I'm I'm right on the wall. If he got deeper, two lights would come on. So instead of using a shift light, it was a shift light for either one of the bash bars, so that way he can get an idea of how deep he's in.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:31

Were they extended at all?

SPEAKER_01 1:05:32

Or there's there's they were fully extended, so that's zero. Yeah, and then there's a shock absorber, a full-blown shock absorber in there with a potentiometer. So it would absorb, absorb the wall, but the driver knew how deep he was. So I guess now judges don't want you going deep into the wall. That's you're going past there, right? They want you to, you know, inch, maybe rubbing at a hair, right? With that invention that we did, right? He can know. Alright, I just want one dot on my ship light. One dot and then leave it rather than you know being absorbed into the wall with five dots or whatever with no disruption in the drift, but uh that's what we build. We we I don't know. For me, what yeah, we need a loader for this one.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:20

Oh nice. Dang. The RSA is such a dread horror, like overall.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:26

Yeah, it's got a long wheel base, right? The only thing that's shitty about it is you got double wishbone front suspension with the traditional McPherson. So that thing hauled fucking ass. We would we would walk people with a thousand horsepower and all we had was 700 800. And for a little bit of the time, Chelsea would always and I would always ask him after we bowed out, he goes, dude, that's the fastest fucking car I've ever driven. Ever.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:53

Who did your engine program?

SPEAKER_01 1:06:54

Oh, believe it or not, Mazda Trick. Alright. But they lasted. But uh the I had a previous driver that liked to drive on the red limiter. And when you'd drive on the red limiter, it would blow up. And when we brought Chelsea on board, it was just like and then on the when you're speaking about data, right? Mind you, I had three drivers, right? And you'd look on the data and we'd overlay, you know, JTP, Jun Mang, and Chelsea Denapa. And on the throttle position sensor, everybody's, you know, throttle modulating a couple people are throttle modulating. Chelsea Denapa TPS is floored the whole way. Even on the transitions, the TPS would just go. But with somebody that committed the throttle. The drive line doesn't like it. It's funny, I see you have a you have a dog ring here.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:01

Oh yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:02

And I was wondering why you have a dong ring there, right? But for me, okay, I'll tell you my.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:08

You looked at it. Did you look close at the end? I did look at it. Yeah, yeah, of course you did.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:11

Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:12

So this was the first ever dog ring that I chipped. I saw I say my first one, it was a test in the US F 2000 car. Oh. And I think I was like 17. I was like, can I cheap that? Yeah. So that was the first one.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:26

Chelsea Danafa, because he stays committed on the gas. What I call it is the Japanese style of driving, right? Japanese, they're floored. And to modulate the grip, they would clutch modulate it, right? And when you clutch modulate, right? When you clutch modulate, that's disengaging and engaging these dog rings. These dog rings help hook the power on. When you depress the clutch, it disengages and smashes the corner. So I would replace this fucking third gear when Chelsea was driving every single fucking day. And then I would but intentionally buy two of these for the weekend, including a whole third gear. So every weekend I would go through two of these and two third gears just for Chelsea to knock it out. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:21

So if he was nice to the engine, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:24

He was very nice to the engine. I had no problems ripping the transmission apart every day. So that way this one gets fucked up.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:32

Okay, so you're doing uh PTSD flashback. Don't look at it. You're not you're not replacing it anymore. It's fine. It's fine. Don't look at it.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:42

Alright. This room is sick. I like that dog ring because that's that's the PTSD.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:47

I know, I'm putting it in. It's away now. Don't think about it.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:50

Let's go check out the family heirloom and the FC.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:52

Let's do it.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:54

You know, with your experience in monster trucks, I I was wondering you're a 2017 event champion monster truck.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:04

Yeah, and I have that, which is crazy because usually they don't let you cheap the trophies all the time. Somehow I got that one. And then that was a little Wonder Woman Barbie that matched my suit that my mom made.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:14

Yeah, and then you you even got the bracelets, even too. Oh my god, let me see you put those on.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:20

This was literally, look, that was it. So this was the Wonder Woman truck, and then this was Ultra Olico that I did my first events on.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:29

What racers have a monster truck event champion underneath their bell? So cool.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:38

And the little toys remember it. And that's what's so cool too about having the lounge, is like I've never had this stuff out before. So it's just been in storage, and now having this space to put it on display and use it as decor is really pretty sweet.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:52

Let's go check out your FC. Oh man. Ah, and here comes the big the shop. And there it is. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:06

Technically the car that started all, but it's a different version of the car that started it all.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:12

But what year did you buy this car?

SPEAKER_04 1:11:16

It was when well, so this is version two. So completely. But it's the same chassis. It's based off of my original RX 7 that we retired that and built this in memory of it. But my first car, the RX 7 I bought, had to have been 2016, because it was during Rallycross 2015-16, and started building on that car. Learned a ton. I mean, if you looked at the videos back then, that's when I started videos online, uh, learning everything from the building a cage. I learned how to build a cage, do wiring, make a dash, like do bodywork. I painted the car, like I learned so much from that first build, but also a decade later, it shows, you know, like the cage is probably dangerous. I think it was a couple years ago I was sitting in there, like a gusset literally fell on me. Um so you know, I learned a lot, and that car meant a lot, and I went through a lot with it, and I wanted to do version two, bigger, better, and every single way with everything I've learned over the decade. And that is what this car is. And this is the car that I actually launched my first ever Hot Wheels. And yeah, it's a version of this one, which is pretty awesome.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:29

To me, that's that's a if you can get your car into a Hot Wheels, that's a that is like the end all be all because that's where it all started. Just playing on there, and then to have your car in a Hot Wheels format, that's pretty sick. So, yeah, with this, this obviously you built this for drifting. When you originally started building that FC, right?

SPEAKER_04 1:12:52

It was a two-rotor. Two-rotor.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:54

Yep. All right. When did you decide to go all out on drift rather than road racing?

SPEAKER_04 1:13:02

That was the purpose of the R7. So for me, it was like, okay, I want to build a drift car, I wanted it hands-on again because I was racing professionally for other teams. I never got that hands-on experience, and I was like, I was itching for it at that point, and drifting looked really exciting, and I just wanted to be a part of the sport. So that was the goal from the beginning in getting an art 7. And for me, having an RX8, I'd gotten more and more into rotary engines. In my head, I was like, okay, well, if I'm blowing up engines, a rotary engine. Half Puerto Rican, it was already in my blood. But if I'm blowing up engines, a rotary engine is way less parts. It's honestly way simpler. You should build it like the Vartus Brothers on a bucket if you want. And little did I know then, it is very tedious parts form. But I was like, okay, small. I I can't afford spare engines, spare LS, this, that. So R7, and then worst case, I can rebuild my own engines.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:59

Now show me what's underneath the hood.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:02

Uh version one evolved very quickly. I think within like a year and a half, two years, I was already like, oh, three-rotor! Like, let's go! Barely it even started drifting by then. So this is the original three-rotor engine that we started with in the other car. Um, it's a semi-peripheral port with like a mild street port.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:23

Woo! Look at that intake manifold!

SPEAKER_04 1:14:26

Yeah, uh, this is new for version two with the manifold.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:30

Wow.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:31

OMD parts. He traded all of this. I also run the OMD parts angle kit as well. So Martin and Steve are just, they're honestly geniuses. And Martin was drifting the FC platform for over 20 years, came from Japan to the US. He was one of the people that helped start Parts Shop Maps and like did all the engineering for it. So now they have their own company, OMD Parts, and worked, been working with them for a long time. I met them actually when I lived in California. And for version two, they had their new manifold that came out. Also worked with Vibrant to do all this extra titanium work. Like the version two is just gonna be bigger, better in every single way. Just in in every part from the body, it's a real rocket bunny kit as well. You know, and I was just starting out, they didn't even make a pandemic kit for an FC at the time, so now it has a proper one.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:21

And how much horsebar is it pulling?

SPEAKER_04 1:15:23

Or is it around like 800?

SPEAKER_01 1:15:25

Oh wow!

SPEAKER_04 1:15:26

750, 800 range. Um, and the plates too are taffed externally, so each one is lubricated. I get it. Yeah, and this is the same engine though. This has not been taken apart since it was in version one, and there's a lot of problems that I had to learn from the first version, and again, like that that was the first car I was really, really building and and doing things for the first time and just diving like headfirst into building. So this one took a lot of what I loved about the arc 7, kept that, changed a lot of what was frustrating about the arc 7, and a lot of that lives in the rear end of them. Oh I should probably shoot that up. The rear end.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:09

Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:11

So this one actually it has a GForce GSR.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:14

Woo!

SPEAKER_04 1:16:15

Yes, very nice, and uh very nice, and this is one of the first ever arc 7 FCs that has a quit change in the rear. Oh, I think at the time there was maybe one, I think in New Zealand uh or Australia, and we're the first people to do it actually here in the States, which took a lot of learning and engineering and talking to all the other like FC guys because everyone wants that that has this platform. Uh, unfortunately, you know, the FC crowd, there's not a lot of money in the development of new parts. So we went ahead and did that, and this thing is so sick. Decided to be extra fancy.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:53

Yeah, you tubbed it, it's clean.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:54

I've never had a tubbed car before, and I definitely apologize.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:58

Usually they put tubs in the rear, but for drifting, you put tubs in the front.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:01

Yeah, and it's just it looks super clean. I I learned how to do stitch welding too because I hadn't done that before uh on this car and got to work with Chris and Cricket and Donnie building this, and yeah, this we just did everything the coolest way that we could, and uh I'm really really happy with how it came together.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:18

And you have physic physically put your hands on this vehicle. Yeah, so I built not bought.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:27

Yeah, we built this uh like a year and a half ago, maybe two years now. And a lot of this too, you know, this is basically version two is just supposed to be a an elevated version of the original car. You know, I didn't do everything on this car myself. I'm working and again getting hands-on and learning from people that are professionals at welding, at like building a cage. You worked with cage kits and got like the best craziest fitting cage for the car, and it just it came together really, really amazingly.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:58

That looks good.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:59

I think this year will be the first year I'm probably gonna just go to competition and compete in it.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:05

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:06

I really want to send this maybe to the West Coast to have just a car out there to do hot pit or something. So it's I've already like right when we were done, I I ticked it, you know, and I'm like, nope, it's a drift car because it happens. I built them and they're they're too nice. And then you don't drive them as hard, and you just have to give it a little tick and be like, you know, aesthetics matter. I'm glad that it's as beautiful as it is, but it's definitely going to get driven.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:29

What is it? What is it about a rotary that now we know you can't help but Puerto Rican jeans, right? But what is it about a rotary that interests you, that fires you up?

SPEAKER_04 1:18:43

I think it's just the magic rotating Dorito power, you know, like it sounds good, you can rev them high. They're also just different and unique, which is also part of the there's a trauma bonding there, like oh my gosh. And even just in the US, so much information is so like hidden from people about this, and like it sucks, which is why I love working with uh Mike Vargas because he's so open, he has his channel. If we learn stuff, we talk about it, we show what we're doing. Like on my channel, there's multiple full builds that we've done um putting together the the 13Bs that I have. And I I love that because I it's really sad, and I think a big reason why rotary art is dying in the US is because it's hard for people to build them reliably, make them reliably. The knowledge is honestly dying. And then you look over at New Zealand and Australia, and you go to a drift event, and like there's five, six, seven rotary towers over there. Like it's way more normal or rotary swaps.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:40

We are in Orlando. This is rotary country right here.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:44

Especially the drag at the draft ship. There's there's a ton, which is awesome. But it's uh yeah, I eventually one day one of my goals is to do some sort of like multi-part documentary where I hit up New Zealand, Australia, Japan, here, visit like the OG rotary shops and builders and just learn from them and get them on camera because I really think this is a dying art, and it's it's crazy. And I you gotta have to do that.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:08

You know, it'd be nice if you were to ship this out to uh one of mad mic's events.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:13

Yeah, I was supposed to go in December. Uh not with this car, but to send this car over there would be would be really cool.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:18

Yeah, that'd be kind of cool.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:19

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:20

If anybody's a big rotor head, it's mad mic of all people, and he's not even a Puerto Rican. But I guess it's he's New Zealand, so it's like you're on an island, right, and you're stuck on an island with nothing to do, there's a high probability you're gonna be a rotary fanatic.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:35

Oh yeah, but this it's clean. No, this is this was a huge, huge bucket list at an awesome time building B2 just in time for the new Hot Wheels to come out as well. And I'm excited to drive it more though. I think in terms of development, so you haven't driven it yet? I have, yeah. I've done a few test days with it, brought it to some different events, like fun stuff, but it's never been in competition yet. Uh, I'll be honest, like my focus has been on the FD car, FD program the past couple years.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:03

So and look, what you started off how how it started, yeah. How is it going?

SPEAKER_04 1:21:12

How it's going with my new engine that we blew off at FD the last few rounds. But that you know, that's part of it. So yeah, we made our way over here to our BMW, and uh this is what I compete in and from the drift.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:26

Now it it's so funny how there's you've kept your roots, right, and made it even better, and yet this is your comp car. It's insane. I I find it very cool that current yeah, this is uh your heritage.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:45

Well, Alberto is putting in our brand new engine because we had a freak failure. It was a factory oil pump failure. Oh, Atlanta. In Atlanta, which was a few weeks ago. So uh shout out R S Garage and Jay for get for getting the engine built like super fast. It's here. Alberto's putting it in, and I finally went to eCassis almost like two years ago now, and I'm I never want to say never, but like I'm almost never looking back at this point. Previously, I was driving a Corvette to move to that platform to go up the ranks, and I just never clicked with the chassis, and I I've I've said that a lot. It just driving style, whatever it was. You know, maybe now it's a few years later, I'm way more committed than I used to be. You know, maybe I could jump back in it. But my first few laps in this, I have the video of driving this car for the first time. First lap, full send, so sick. Like, I just I just love the feeling that you get in these cars. To me, there's way more side bite than like a Corvette has. And the the Jay-Z, like a two Jay-Z is just the best thing ever.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:52

But you're Puerto Rican.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:54

I know. Okay, I will look. I rotary is for the love, the trauma, the art, whatever is in there. This is for the sickness and reliability. I know my engine just blew up, it was a freak thing, but like the for the most part, you beat on them. I have a Jay-ZX100 in Japan, one G Z sick. It sounds good, it feels good, like the power is so good. I will likely be a Jay-Z girl when it comes to competition level drifting. I love this combo.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:23

Now, with that with that feeling, right? Indie, open wheel, right? Rallycross, right? And these are uh maybe two two to two to three years stints, right? Rally cross, monster trucks of all things, right? And then now drifting, you've been in drifting for what, eight years?

SPEAKER_04 1:23:48

Or drifting started more, so when everything shut down, uh when the world stopped, I got a 350Z.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:57

Uh-huh. And so that's when it actually started, where you started drifting.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:00

That's when I started getting more of the seat time because one biggest mistake I made was dating an RX7. Like, if you're looking back, like it was a finity car. I was already on engine two, you know, of less than a year into even getting the car, and I'm I'm learning how to drift. Like, the most important thing that you want when you're dating the drifting is reliability. You don't need all the power, you need something you can rely on so you're not thinking about the car and just driving. So I would definitely say when I got a Z, I started just getting lap, lap, lap, seat time, seat time, and then very quickly from there advanced into the Corvette in a higher horsepower, like more pro car, and eventually modded that out to be essentially a FD car.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:42

So, uh out of all the types of driving you've done, what's your favorite?

SPEAKER_04 1:24:50

I would definitely say drifting is my absolute favorite, but the most insane is still probably Rally Cross. Really? I think you how do you compete with a hundred-foot tabletop jump, three people going into one corner, on three people in the air? I have a photo of me and two other people flying these cars, landing into a tight dirt corner, asphalt, then bat. It's crazy. And because it's you know, it's it's 10 laps, you're all out. And if you're not all out in the first corner, you're gone.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:21

That's why I think FD, like when you were during uh driver battles where you launched into the bowl uh almost drifting, we should we should have a jump in F D into the bowl.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:34

Yeah, yeah, that would be uh a little wild. I'll probably have to raise my car, change the suspension a little bit, but it's coming from okay, if you start sports car racing, you know, you have in endurance racing, an hour, three, you have multiple hours to get comfy, strategically plan your position, get better, better. I went from that to then rally cross, where that time is not there. Like you in a in a heat, you have four to five laps, and then finally you have 10 laps. So even mentally, going from rally cross, it's like you have to turn on now. And like if you're not flat for you're gone. Yeah, you have 10 laps, you can't make up a gap. So going from 10 laps to then no warm-up laps and drifting, it is all or nothing immediately after being cold all day, sitting for hours, a trash change, it doesn't matter, you have to fully send it and be way more accurate than any of the other genres of motorsport with someone next to you and chasing a moving target, right? So, like I'm over the years, I've gotten better and better at snapping into it. That now in drifting, I would say this is the first year in Atlanta. I got four laps of practice total, and I did my best lead run with a new engine in chaos uh on my first lead lap, and I had no chase in practice. So, like you have to be able to be great immediately. There's no warm-up in drifting. I think my progression in motorsports has slowly prepared me for that, but that was huge, especially making the jump to FD last year.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:03

Wow, and then we got Connecticut next.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:07

I'm excited. I'm really excited for I want to see you on that box. The that's the goal, man. You know, that that's always our intention, and the team is amazing. Like, we've learned so much just in dialing in the car from last year. We made a few changes this year that I'm excited to see the full extent of them in Connecticut. I think Atlanta, you know, we had freaked issues. All that being said, even on the line, I didn't have a working clutch. I had to figure out how to leave the line with like no hands on the steering wheel, and I was doing it was crazy. So we learned a lot, and I'm excited to reset, like going into the next round.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:39

Oh, you gotta pivot sometimes. Oh, clutch's not working. What am I gonna do? Gotta pivot, I gotta figure out how to work this clutch.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:45

Yeah, it wasn't working like two minutes before it was supposed to be on the line. So I just drove down the pits and like tried to figure out a strategy to like just get off the line without stalling. It worked until uh for and then I thought one more time, and then it worked again. And I just I messed up the timing and the chase where it didn't work that good, but learned a lot. And hey, now I know how to now I know how to leave one. Well, that's very aggressively.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:09

That's how racing is. It'll start throwing you wrenches, and you gotta learn how to pivot. Yeah. And you've been pivoting your whole life.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:16

Yeah, it's been a lot of that. But honestly, I used to be frustrated with flashback to open wheel, trying to pursue indie car, seeing how much money and capital is gonna take, like not being from that world, being such an outsider. And like most people in there, let's be honest, they're like you know, a lot of people were just arrogant at the time, they're just young kids, you know, they're you're you're so young at those entry ladder levels, and I was so frustrated that my path had to be so complicated. I had to pivot, I had to find funny funding, I had to work so hard. But I also started my brand so much earlier before social media was really a thing. I was creating content, I was delivering marketing deliverables. So that fast forward to now, all those pivotings, all those journeys and different genres of motorsport, I'm so thankful for.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:01

How old were you when you first started your YouTube page? Because I even saw your videos on this one.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:06

Yeah, YouTube wasn't until I got the drift car. So that was like when I really launched my YouTube. There's maybe some random clips from me racing, but I I started my channel just documenting like me building a car like fully for the first time.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:19

Yeah, 2015?

SPEAKER_04 1:29:22

Yeah, it would have been like 15, 16 around then. But I'm so thankful now that my path was as complicated as it was because I've learned so much, and I honestly think it's it's made me a better driver. Oh yeah, it's made me have to adapt, and like I just love motorsport. Like, I I want to do this the rest of my life and want to Colorado and Indy. Yeah, Colorado Springs. Yeah, yep.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:45

Um, I wanted to ask you with you getting in the drift, right? Who are some of the drivers that you're a fan of or model you're driving after? Um like anybody in the landscape now or even in the past?

SPEAKER_04 1:30:02

I think I don't know about modeling my driving after. I think I'm still so focused on the changes just I need to make in general. Like coming into this season and since making the transition into this car, I've always needed to work on my aggression and my commitment. And I feel like I've and early on, right, not taking all these laps to warm up, because sometimes you don't have that. Case in point, Atlanta. And I'm really proud of the progression I've made in terms of my aggressive driving, more commitment. There's still definitely further to dive into that and getting more aggressive in the chase, too. And I I think a driver that I like, I mean, I love watching drive is obviously like James Dean and Vaughn too. Like I just love how their style, they're so flashy and like Chelsea Denovo, right? I I would say if I had to be like okay, no fuck's given with Chelsea Danofa. I think Danova is like the end goal of drivers. So like if I could just steal your style and live it, I I would have to do that.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:05

It's insane. Full commitment, full commitment to angle, full commitment to throttle, blistering speeds, go in there, rub everything and can jump into anything.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:16

Anything the way that his brain works on the engineering side and setting up the tar, like even him, he's given us advice on how to set up my tar from the very beginning. Like he he knows everything about each house.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:25

He's a local Orlando Knight.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:27

Yeah. Yeah. So like I think, okay, I do have a driver that if I had to steal her style and feel it, it would for sure be TNOFa. And I think that's what I'm in general. I'm working on aggression and commitment immediately, and I think I've I've made a ton of progress.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:41

Now let's go back to Atlanta, right? How what what does Colette Davis do to turn on aggression? What's going through your mind? How do you get turned into the girl next door into the evil person that's driving this BMW?

SPEAKER_04 1:31:57

Yeah, just person that's like Kawaii, peace sign, and then you like it.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:03

The moment the visor goes down, what's going through your mind?

SPEAKER_04 1:32:06

I have like a like a little ritual, just like a couple helmet knocks, but the most the biggest part is just having fun with it. I think I coming from sports car racing, everything was so serious, everything's like serious all the time, and you know, life's life's short, right? Like I think just appreciating and having gratitude and having fun, and that immediately just gets a lot of the pressure off of you. Okay, and I realize I drive better. Oh, really? Like, I I'm good at driving under pressure as well, but I think going in specifically, like, dude, I have best car, best team, best people around me, best support. Like, I'm here. I'm just looking around on grid and I'm like, I'm so lucky to be here. You know what's funny?

SPEAKER_01 1:32:46

Uh Ben Hobson said that.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:48

Yeah. It's I mean, it's wild. And I think when you when you're in that seat and you're taking it in before you go up to the line, you're like, hell yeah, like I'm gonna just give it everything I got. And it it's helped my driving just being more present. And immediately, even going to a new track now. If I'm testing a new place, I force myself to be committed, lap one, like without knowing the track. So, like when we did the driving challenge, I like forced myself to be way more committed, like not taking that time to work up.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:16

I can hear it in your throttle.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:17

Yeah. Driver battle, ah, ah, ah. There's still, I think that's the biggest thing I'm focusing on this year is aggression and commitment with the unknowns, drivers that you're not sure what they're gonna do. That's a that's a tough one in prospect as well. But yeah, time just reminding myself to just send it, be grateful I'm even able to send it.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:38

I I I think you've been committed since 14 years old.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:42

I've been determined for a long time, and the path has gone left, right, and all around, but I definitely wouldn't change anything that's happened here.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:52

There's a reason, a rhyme and reason for everything.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:56

Well, damn, look at this. Is that your your uh Mitsubishi 2?

SPEAKER_04 1:34:02

Yep, I have a Evo 5. I picked up actually like many years ago, and then my rotary swapped S15 that is currently a rotor down.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:11

Oh, you have a rotor in the S15 too?

SPEAKER_04 1:34:12

I do.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:13

Wow, two rotor?

SPEAKER_04 1:34:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:16

Wow.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:17

Yeah, it's it's still a mess in there. Okay. Um but yeah, that that was another build. This was a barn find during the world shutdown era, and it got it for 800 bucks, didn't know if it ran. It runs, it's like a 1.8 too manual, so sit.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:34

You know what you should do is hit up Rob Dom and put one rotor in it. That way you have a one-rotor, a two-rotor, a three-rotor, and I don't know where you'd put that four-rotor.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:43

I already have four. Do I have four rotors at the time? Well, right now I have four running cars, and then eventually I want to do a street FC. Uh I think I'll keep this one just running and being simple. You know.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:56

But this one has a Bisman motor in it. I'm sure Robin.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:01

This was a barn finding, it probably hadn't even been started in maybe a decade. And I was just like, sure, 800 bucks, I'll I'll run run the wrist. And it was so sick. And it's just a fun car. I think I've I've wanted to build a Miada. I just think they're cute and they feel like a giant goat cart when you're running around. I've not done anything with it yet, but uh but this one runs. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:22

Okay, I get it.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:22

Yeah, no, it was it was a great barn find for sure.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:26

And what's with the other Epsy?

SPEAKER_04 1:35:29

I eventually uh at one point I plans, plans, plans. Look, okay, this is part of my eliminating cars and being cars. This is being realistic, is like I I have a huge goal of building a nice, crazy pink, custom interior, wild street FC. Like all these years I've been building drift cars that get hammered, like they get destroyed, right? That's the nature of a drift car. I've not tried to build something that I would love stylistically in a streetcar that's gonna stay nice. And I really want to do that with an FC at some point.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:03

Is that one wrong?

SPEAKER_04 1:36:04

This one has no engine, no, no anything, and I'm honestly probably gonna sell that car and then get a clean chassis when it's more realistic to have time. Like right now, I have an R33, I need to RB25 Neo swap and manual swap that, and then paint that. I have my C10 truck, I have my Divo.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:22

Do you have a style on here?

SPEAKER_04 1:36:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:24

Where?

SPEAKER_04 1:36:24

Yeah, it's uh it's out there. I have my R say, like they're just you gotta I don't be I'm I'm learning to be realistic. Hear that? I'm doing real I'm getting rid of cars, so I'll probably get rid of the FC.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:36

But uh, where where are you gonna find one thing that's always intrigued me is you will not find any 350Z on the planet with G3s at all. That's why this car is so sick. Hey, it was yeah, it didn't.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:52

It was a lot of fun. Um, so I I've left this one in off-road mode for right now, but this was actually my first car. The Arc State. Oh, really? It's it's come a long way. So this went from a stock Arcate that I packed my entire life at the time in from Florida, near here, actually, and moved to Silicon Valley, not knowing what in the world I was doing. I drove this car cross-country and it made it back. And since then, Rocket Bunny kit.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:19

Original motor?

SPEAKER_04 1:37:20

Yes. Wow! Like 60,000 miles.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:23

High compression Renesis motor still running.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:26

65,000 miles, I think. But that's why it like it's it's on bags. I just went to Fitman Industries and like redid the wrap, and the light bar is kind of crazy, chassis-mounted wing, and yeah, it's a little wild, but it's stocked underneath for now, which is nice.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:43

So and then the R34.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:46

R33. Or R33. This is a build that again, like I'm getting rid of stuff wrong because I have so much fun stuff that I want to build here, and it's just time, right? So it's like getting the FD program taken care of, that's been a huge focus the past two years, and now that's in a better spot. I have so many cool builds I want to do. Like, I have most of the parts here, and this is one of them. I got this car also like many, many years ago at this point, and I have a whole engine swap for it, manual transmission. I I think it's locked, but I have these like super cute, purple Ricardo seats in there. It's still I have my Japanese air freshener, JDM squash in there.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:25

Um, so you this will be a nice streetcar. Your uh, your um your sickness is just the same as all of us.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:34

I'm but I'm trying, I know it's a problem. I'm to the stage where you know it's a problem, you've acknowledged the problem, and I have gotten rid of a few cars.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:42

One, two, three. What's this other Rcate?

SPEAKER_04 1:38:47

Okay, like the RC that I I got just as a good deal, Ron. And then he comes in trying to offer me another RT. I'm like, no, danger, I'm walking away. But I said I said no. So I'm making progress.

SPEAKER_05 1:38:59

Yeah, you are making progress.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:00

Yeah. But that one was just a good deal 2009 RX 8 that I have all the parts to turn it into a rally car. I haven't done that yet. So, but this would be a street build, which I'm like, I'm would be stoked about that to drive a boat around because again, I'm used to building drift cars that get hammered.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:20

You go out to Japan for uh drip matsuri and all that, right? How how is it for you driving? Are you ambidextrous with both cars?

SPEAKER_04 1:39:31

Now I am. Really? Yeah, I've spent so much time driving overseas. I I competed, I go to as many Matsuris as I can at Ebisu in Japan. Um, I've done some competitions in Japan, I've driven in Malaysia, Australia. Like it's always it's it's always right-hand drive. So like now I don't think about it. Really? But definitely, and like my my S15 is right-hand drive too. So, but now I I don't think about it, which is awesome. Uh, I try and drive in Japan as much as I can. Like, I'm super thankful to work with sideways experienced guys there. They're always like helping me. Like, I was really dialing in just my craft, especially years ago, and I just wanted the seat time and driving with other people, and it was the best experience ever.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:15

So I what I find very um attractive about you, right, is that you're good at business, right? You learn from the best, right? And then on top of that, all the different types of facets of driving, right? Monster trucks and everything. Your addic your addiction to vehicles, right? Because I do the same thing, I have to do it. It's naturally halfway. I hoard cars, right? But it's just it's it's very, very amazing that you've got so much done that people can only dream about, right? That at such a young age, that's what's amazing.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:58

Being stubborn has its advantages sometimes, especially uh looking back, like especially like when I was younger, I look back, I think about things, I'm exhausted thinking about it. I'm just like, wow, I I don't know, man. I was just very headstrong and motivated, and you know, also probably a little jaded, right? You don't really know what's on the other side, so you're gonna keep knocking and not stop. And uh yeah, I'm just thankful that I just kept going, kept pivoting, kept figuring it out. And again, I I used to be frustrated that I had to do that, but now I'm so thankful that I did have to go through all that.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:31

And there's a reason behind it, makes you a stronger person.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:34

100%. And I think now it's just okay, I need to get better at how I spend my time. I can't do everything. I I've gone from always doing everything, and at a certain point that holds you back. So, you know, people are like, oh, she doesn't build her cars anymore. I'm like, yeah, my FT program is a business. Like, I want people that do this every single day and have the time to be the business. Yeah, exactly. I when it comes to that level of a car, and even like the help on the art seven, yeah, I want to learn from and be around the best people that are experts to do that and you know, build my fun cars, build cars I can like not have stress about, or me thinking, oh, did I did I bolt check this or like did I did I do this right when I'm on the line in FD.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:18

So you know what's funny is even for me when uh when I see your shop, right? And I see um what's your crew guy's name?

SPEAKER_04 1:42:27

Eric and Alberto.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:28

Alberto. I saw an Alberto putting putting working on the motor, you get hungry to get your hands dirty. Yeah, you know what I mean. I like seeing him work on that motor, I want to jump in. Yeah, you know what I mean? So and I do help.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:43

You like I'll I'll help in different different parts of the build, or if like we're crunched for time, but like I've I've I've very much drawn a line with certain types of builds in my involvement. Yes, do I want to do everything? I always want to do everything, you know? Like I want to freaking design custom Nikes, I want to make videos, I want to build cars, I want to run, I have to run the business too. I want to work with like awesome, cool people, I want to talk to you, you know what I mean? And like at some point, you're like, okay, let's divide your time better, let's sell cars. Let's be what realistically can I start this year? What should I plan? I think that's the stage of life that I'm now. Stryble. Twirl, I know, both of us are like, but it's I've learned a lot, and I'm definitely thankful to just be in this position, and I'm I'm constantly learning or trying to, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:31

I tip my hat off the year.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:32

Thanks, Ron. And you know what? I will say, I feel like you've like silently and not silently since we first met, I've sort of always been this supporter and cheerleader. I know at first you're like hard to track a little bit. So I feel like you thought I was like just this girl coming around trying to drive. You told me this actually. I think it was like true maybe three years ago where you like pulled me inside and you're like, you know what? You just you gave me a fist bump, and you're like, uh I respect what you're doing out here.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:00

And well even not not to take anything away from our free first meeting, and I I'm just as I'm just as guilty of judging a book by its cover. But after our talks, right, it's like fuck. You are just enthusiastic, right? And I'll talk to a lot of driven people, right? You are just as enthusiastic as all the rest of it, man, woman, whatever, right? And I didn't I I didn't know anything about all this you've done at such a young age, 2019 and before below. I didn't I didn't know any of that, and it just it's it's a cool thing to witness and to hear from you, you know? Because I like what I call them is hard-hitting motherfuckers, right? And even in my race team, when I had my own race team, right, or even when I was coaching uh YMC basketball, right? I you you want to hang out with hard-hitting motherfuckers, right? And when you hang out, that to see your vision come to fruition, that's all you that's all you dream about. Even some of the people on my podcast, right? Yeah, hard-hitting motherfuckers.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:15

And that doesn't mean that I did everything great by any means. Oh no, you're not supposed to, you're supposed to fuck up. I think the biggest thing that dropped me through everything was just being so stubborn and not giving up. Figuring it out. Like I San Francisco, Siltern Valley, I'll figure it out. I'll code websites, I'll learn how to code, I'll teach my like just figuring it out, and like if you really want to do something, just keep pivoting until you form your own version of what your original dream was. You know, and I and I think just constantly letting change and pivoting be okay and accepting that has helped me a lot, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:56

Um, with all those trials and tribulations, right? What would you tell people, man or woman, mind you, right, about about if they're pursuing motorsports and a career in cars in general? What what would you tell the viewer that is just getting or even what would you instead of the cell phone of that lady that you called, right? Now you're calling yourself now. That that 14-year-old girl is calling you now. What would you tell 14-year-old Colette Davis about her pursuits?

SPEAKER_04 1:46:36

I really don't think if it was me talking to myself, I think I would have just let it happen. Oh, okay. Right? Because I I almost feel like I almost know too much now. So, like the thought of starting where I did, the odds and stuff against you is like I'm mind blown. I think back about it now. You know, like it's like you better love this shit. And you better figure it out and like be okay with not going home for the holidays, working through Christmas for a decade and not stopping. And you better really love it to get you through it. And I I think just advice for anyone, it's tough. Like I get that question, and it it depends if you're saying motor sports or drifting, right? Drifting, start small. Don't be like me, don't get an art seven and a car that you need to learn and fix all the time and get something reliable 350Z, get seat time, you know, learn as much as you can and just do it yourself and figure it out. I think now with YouTube, with AI, with with the search that you can do, you can figure out how to do most things on a car yourself. And that's how I started is just trying it, you know, like jumping it heads first and start small, see if you love it, and if you do, you'll keep finding a way, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:50

Cool. Um, last question where is Colette Davis five years from now? Oh gosh. I'm so bad at this point. You're goal-oriented. You're goal-oriented. Where is Colette Davis five years from now?

SPEAKER_04 1:48:06

Five years, man. I'm so bad at these two.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:09

I didn't say ten, I said five. Five years from now. I'll even shorten it up. Four years. Where is Colette Davis in four years?

SPEAKER_04 1:48:15

I'm gonna answer this for you, but I will say, disclaimer, I've struggled with this question so much of my life of like, oh, the next five, ten years, because I pivot all the time, right? Or I have. Five years from now, I need to be, and the goal is to be winning pro spec championship, going into pro one by within for that by the way. Yeah, but like I I don't want to make a jump without us dominating pro spec. You know, I think that's just the smart thing to do, and then making that next step, but absolutely next five years solid winning FD program under wraps, mostly running itself within five years for sure, going to pro, uh, and that just being its own entity, and then more of the creative car builds being freed up and having the team behind me to explore that more, possibly work with other people as well, and also expand into another business that is not related to any of this. Oh, interesting, whether that's a marketing agency or media agency that I've like I've talked to many people about for a few years now, and that could be a direction that is to possibly start in that's why we're gonna do it. It's just what I've been like, I've been doing media marketing since I was 16 years old and figuring it out, you know, and like I already do a lot of consulting and advising for the partners that I work with and people in the space, and it's like why not create a company around that so eventually I have this other thing that isn't fully relying on me, and I can just you know have my racing program be my racing program and me build cars because I love racing. Yeah, but so that's the genre, I guess, of five years and what that could look like.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:04

Well, I'm hoping uh this 2026 short-sighted dream to see at least top top three. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:15

That's the plan, Ron.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:17

Thank you for being on the show.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:18

Thank you for coming out. You're not coming back, and we're we're building this car and all the other parts that I'm gonna build at some point, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:24

That's the latest episode of Ronus with the shit Colette Davis. Make sure to like and subscribe on Nitto or Driving Line. We out, nitto or nothing. Peace.

unknown 1:50:35

Bye.