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Protecting Your Peace Without Losing Your Power | Season 4 Episode 3 with Pastor Danni Howell-Morris

Kesha - T.H.E. Forgiveness Coach Season 4 Episode 3

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 Season 4 continues with a powerful, real, and necessary conversation. Episode 3 goes deeper, this time focusing on what it really looks like to protect your peace while still standing in your authority, voice, and purpose.

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SPEAKER_01

Welcome everybody. Happy Forgiveness Friday. We are so excited to have you guys back. Thank you for tuning in to the Forgive Podcast. I am Keisha, the forgiveness coach that's trusting his expertise, y'all. And so I'm just so excited. We have another amazing guest, you guys. I have been wanting to have this dynamic powerhouse. You guys are in for a treat. This is Pastor Danny Howell. You guys, she is here to bless your socks off. And you know, we welcome everybody that tunes in because we are a people that are on this journey of forgiveness. It is not easy, it is a process. And so make sure you like, share, and tag, you know, because somewhere somebody needs help forgiving. Amen. So, Pastor Danny, just say hello to the people as I get ready to introduce your bio.

SPEAKER_03

Amen. Good afternoon, everyone. Wherever you are tuning in from, I'm Pastor Danny. What an honor and a privilege to be on here on the Forgiveness Show with Miss Keisha. I'm so excited. We love all of you and God bless you.

SPEAKER_01

Amen. Don't y'all just love her voice. Her voice is so soothing. I just love her voice, y'all. You know, um, but let me tell you a little bit about Pastor Danny. Pastor Danny is a loving wife and mother of five beautiful children. I would never have guessed that she had five kids, y'all. She just big. She just big. She won them little beautiful petite women. She just big. But she grew up on the south side. She said, a phoenix. She said, so I'm just gonna let y'all know, don't play with me. Don't play with me. She said she said she was in the hood, y'all. She said it. I didn't say it. Don't get mad at me. She said it. She said it was always her dream and her mission to make an impact and a difference in her community. And this dream and passion she has taken around the world. She has ministries in the United States, Africa, Jamaica, Pakistan, and Mexico. Y'all don't play with her. This is a world traveler. She said it is her passion in her heart to give back, to love, to lift, to elevate, to encourage and inspire everyone she meets. And let me say that is the truth, honey. She truly does. Well, Pastor Danny, we are so excited to have you. You know, tell the people something that they don't know about you.

SPEAKER_03

Thank you, Miss Keisha. I would say that I speak multiple languages. Well, from of course you do. So from Spanish to some Swahili to sign language. Um, I am, I like to say different dialects. Wherever I am, I just kind of ingratiate myself and speak the language or the dialect of the people.

SPEAKER_01

I love that. See, girl, I just love you even more and more. Keep talking, keep talking, girl. Keep talking. You know, we are gonna get right into this, you guys. We are so excited to have you, you know. We are gonna hear her life, her story, you know, her testimony on her journey of forgiveness. And so, here, what we believe is when we forgive, we make room for freedom, for restoration, and for a deeper intimacy with God. And that's what it's all about. You know, we can't truly forgive without the Holy Spirit. You know, I truly believe that 100%. But we're we're just gonna get right into this, Miss Ma'am. If you're ready, I'm ready. So can you share with us, you know, just briefly your story, your journey, who you are, you know, the kind of relationships that you've had to navigate that were hardest for you on your forgiveness journey and where you are now. We'll start with that.

SPEAKER_03

I love that. Um, so thank you, Miss Keisha. So who I am, as you said in my bio, uh, I'm just a girl from the projects, just a girl from the hood. Um, actually, uh in my birth, I was actually a crack baby. Um, and so when I was born, you know, in my veins, injected in my veins was crack cocaine and heron. And so, um, yeah, so both of my parents were, you know, on drugs, uh, grew up in crack houses, different things like that. And so had to navigate kind of that life. Um, and it, like you said, in my bio was always just my dream to make it out the hood and bring others with me. Wow. And so that's really my testimony.

SPEAKER_01

Wow, my God. You girl, won't he do it? Look, let me just say this, honey, won't he do it because the powerhouse international, and I say international, stellar star that you are, you would have never thought that your journey, girl, that the enemy was after you so tough. That he's after you so tough. So, do you have one specific moment or pattern that really because you know you you've you've had a lifetime and and and a world of time. Okay, you experienced so much, right? And so was there a time or a moment or a pattern in which you really you know marked your heart on this journey of forgiveness and you know made forgiveness feel impossible or unfair, or this, I just don't want to do this at this time.

SPEAKER_03

I just yes, you know, I I love that there was um an individual very close to me who had passed away, and how that individual had passed, I felt, as you said, was unfair. Um, I didn't understand it, but I love Miss Keisha, your show. Uh, in order to get to the next steps of my life, in order to get to the next levels of my life, I knew I had to forgive. Come on. And so even though I didn't have all the pieces to the puzzle, we didn't have all the pieces to what had happened with this person. Um, I knew that forgiveness was my journey and forgiveness was the way to go. And I ended up uh after the funeral of this person that was very close to me. Um, I called this individual and said, you know, I don't know what happened, I don't know the particulars, but I forgive you. And the individual, I mean, he was stuttering and you know, all of these different things, and he was actually a suspect in this situation. And so that was maybe the hardest thing that I had to do.

SPEAKER_01

Wow, that is amazing, even in itself. And you know, I really want you to speak to that because a lot of people, you know, deal with uh unforgiveness with people we know, people we don't know. And in this particular episode is about betrayal boundaries and becoming whole again through um unforgiveness. And there's so many people who deal with untimely death. Right. Um a loved one passed away that they may have had odd with, or you know, um an unexpected death. Like you said, you know, it could have been a murder suicide type of thing. And there are so many people who are still holding on to anger and rage, right? Um because of these types of death. How did you can you take us through what you just went through with having this person that passed away, this person that was a suspect? You know, it just can you take us through that and some of those emotions? Because a lot of people need help with that and getting unstuck from there.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, I I love that, Miss Keisha. I I would say first and foremost, allow yourself to feel how you feel in that moment. You're gonna feel sad, you're gonna feel upset, you're gonna feel frustrated, and those feelings and those emotions are okay. And so, first and foremost, allow yourself to go through the process. When we talk about the forgiveness journey, it's a process, it's step by step, right? It's moment by moment, and no one just wakes up forgiving. Come on, come on. But when you come on, when you've had something that deep happen to you, yes, and a lot of times it's it's traumatic. Yeah, you know, we have things stemming from childhood or even in our adulthood, yeah, um, going through different things. So allow yourself to feel. I know sometimes in our culture, we don't allow ourselves to go through that process or to feel, we just put it under the rug, right? We don't talk about it. And so I love your platform and saying, let's talk about it, yeah, let's discuss it, let's feel again. Yeah, you know, feel emotions, feel what you're going through. And like I said, you know, even for me with that untimely death, uh, I was with that individual a day before she passed, and we had dinner together and we're laughing and joking. And I call and the next day she's not there. And so I would say, too, treasure those moments with your loved ones. Uh, treasure every moment that you have with the people that you love. Um, but allow yourself those feelings, those emotions, even anger is okay. Yeah, even in that moment, unforgiveness is okay. Yeah getting through what you're going through. But I will tell you that there's reward and benefit in getting unstuck. There's rewards and benefits at the end of forgiveness.

SPEAKER_01

Jesus. Jesus, girl, I got chills over here. Go on and preach this thing. And that's the thing. There's rewards at the end of this thing, right? You know, unforgiveness. Even, even, you know, the Lord said we can be angry, but sin not, right? And I joke all the time and I always say there are days that, you know, I'll Google sundown, right? Just to see how long I can be angry today. Okay. You you made me real mad. So I got till 659 today, right? Okay. Okay. So 658, I'll release it. I'll release it. Right? And you said something. It's in order to heal, we have to feel. You know, I coach and teach this all the time. You cannot heal until you allow yourself the time to feel the hurt. You've got to feel the betrayal, feel the pain, feel the uncertainty, all of that. God's not afraid of our feelings, right? No. He just doesn't want us to stay stuck in them. Okay. That's right. We get to feel them and then give them and talk to Daddy God and say, okay, he tell him all about it, right? So that he can take that thing from us. Because he's not taking nothing we don't want to give. Come on, nothing we don't want to give, right? And so I love this that you you shared in that. And so I I pray for those of you that uh that are listening, if you lost someone um by the hands of someone, you know, or you lost someone before you got the opportunity to forgive or to release them, take it now. It's never too late. It's never too late. Um so let me ask you with this wound that you shared, I know that there's been many more in your life, but you know, share whatever you want to share. But um, with this one, how did because sometimes people don't realize they may be holding unforgiveness or anger or resentment? How did it show up in you? You know, how did you realize you were still holding on? You know, did it show up physically, mentally, spiritually, emotionally?

SPEAKER_03

I love that. I I was saying shortly after the passing, we would see this individual on the streets. And so we're a little about it family, right? And so uh y'all, she said.

SPEAKER_01

Little okay, listen, she was on that five-fold ministry at that time. Yes.

SPEAKER_03

But but the more I thought about it, you know, and seeing that individual, and and even for you out there, you may think of that person or think of a name or think of a face, and those feelings and those emotions come back. And that's how I knew I said it's not gone yet.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

When I see him, but it's not gone yet. Yeah, you know, when I think about his name, it's not gone yet. That that anger's there, that pain is still there, that that trigger is still there. Come on. Um, you know, even though, like I said, we got that get back spirit a little retaliation and that. Like, you know, I'll pray, I'll pray, I'll pray about it later. Look, I'll pray about it later, right? We're gonna ask for forgiveness later, but but but but I think in in the grand scheme of things, we we gotta think of it as a in a grand scheme type of way. Yeah, this person would have wanted me to forgive, you know, and let them move on with their lives because I wouldn't be able to move on in holding that.

SPEAKER_02

Right.

SPEAKER_03

And so once I made that phone call and said, Listen, I forgive you. I don't know what happened, I don't know what went down, I don't even need to know at this point. Come on, I'm gonna go over to the Lord and and and move on. And it's something I want to say, Ms. Keisha, it's something in the release. We don't talk about that release piece, talk about it. It's something when you release that you are set free because as you are holding on to that thing, both of you are captive, both of you are in change, but when you release a thing, come on, when you release that thing over to the Lord, I feel I'm right now, the spirit of the living God on this line. But when you release it and you turn it over to the Lord, you your life is lighter. God says, My yoke is easy and my burdens are lighter, you you become lighter in that thing, yeah. And so I think that that's how you know. If you got that releasing spirit, you know that you released it. You you don't have that retaliation. I got to get you back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Amen. I can just release you and let you go about your business. That's when you know it's gone. You don't have that vendetta. Oh, come on here, listen. But let God allow that release to happen. And I speak right now that there's a release, yes, even on the line. Hallelujah, that God is releasing you from that unforgiveness, from that thing that held you, that from that thing that's currently holding you. We speak that release right now in the name of Jesus.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, thank you, Lord. Yes, and we believe shackles are being broken, hearts are being softened and changed and turned around, right? Y'all, let it go. It's just not worth it. It's just not worth it. Nobody's getting away with nothing, nobody snuck nothing. You know, God sees everything, everything. And the truth of the matter is when people do something to us and to our loved ones, it really is above our pay grade anyway. You understand? Because he says vengeance of kids, it's really above our pay grade, right? And so I'm just so excited that you're here, and just to hear you talk about this because so many people get stuck with passings. We have a lot of untimely deaths, a lot of untimely deaths, and it it hurts my heart when I'll see it in the news when something tragic has happened now. It's a wrong. A right is a right, and a wrong is a wrong. But when I hear people say, I will never forgive them for what they did to my loved one, I'll never forgive them for what they did. And you said something, both people, when you hold unforgiveness, are being held and bound and chains, and hell is too real, and it ain't worth going there for nobody and for nobody.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, I'm like I'll release you.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly.

SPEAKER_03

I release you, but my life, you know, we don't understand when you release it, it's for you, it's not for them. Nothing to do with them. Let's talk about it. You know, it's for your freedom, it's for your peace of mind. Come on, releasing them. It it benefits you in so many different levels. It's not for them. Let them go on and go about their business. She said, Let them go on, let them go on. You know, I think about the woman in the Bible when she lost her son, yeah. And though she lost her son, when the prophet asked her how you doing, how's everything going? She said, It is well, it is speaking as well in your life as you release it well with you, Jesus in Jesus' names.

SPEAKER_01

It is well with your soul today. And listen, and listen, you you forgiving them, just speaking to the Lord that you you forgive and release what you know and what you don't know. Listen, it is going to change the trajectory of your life in the spirit. You'll you'll stop having those headaches, your stomach will stop hurting, your back will stop hurting. You understand that stress, all that the unforgiveness really affects our body naturally as well, right? You know, they have scientifically linked unforgiveness with a whole lot of diseases, that's right. A whole lot of cancers.

SPEAKER_03

I was gonna say that beautiful. I I love that cancer, because cancer is what is close to your heart. And so when unforgiveness, that's all around that heart area, congested heart failure. I love this. I've been in the mental and the medical field for 25 years. I'm currently going to school for nursing to pursue my R. Hallelujah. So we think about a spiritual realm, and we think, oh, it's happening in the spirit, but it's happening in your body, as she said, in the natural. You're having those migraines and those headaches and that back pain. That back pain came from unforgiveness, that neck pain came from not forgiving. And so you have all these traumatic things going on with your body, and you're wondering why. And the cause of a lot of it is unforgiveness being rooted and stemmed in your heart and even in your mind. Jesus. And so we wonder in our culture and in um our communities, we're having all these mental health issues because the thing is unforgiveness. It's unforgiveness. We cause it. Can I say this? We're causing different things on ourselves. We're putting different diagnoses on our own selves because of unforgiveness. Why you got that bipolar schizo friend? You're not forgiving. You know, now some of it is born and inherited and all of those different things, but but I'm a firm believer in and working in the the psych hospitals. Come on in here, and the things that I've seen in mental health, a lot of these things, beloved, we bring on ourselves.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, come on here, ourselves, Jesus, Jesus. Cha. You would just drop the whole. She said, Come on here now, y'all, y'all, y'all. Yes, we are in the spirit, but you wonder what's happening to your physical body.

SPEAKER_02

That's right.

SPEAKER_01

You wonder what's happening to your physical body. Now, this was a woman speaking from authority in the medical field as well. Okay, y'all, you know what? Go Google it. Go, yes, go Google. Go find it. My god, my god. Y'all, if y'all don't hear nothing else, hear this. Do a self-check. Yes. Am I ailing? Is my body been out of whack? Do I have some chronic ailments that they can't figure out what it is?

SPEAKER_03

And I'm and oh, you said something. I'm thinking about the word alignment. When you go to a chiropractor, they're gonna get your bones and your muscles in alignment. We gotta be in alignment with the spirit. We gotta be in alignment with forgiveness. We gotta be in alignment with what God wants to do in our lives. We have to be in agreement with that thing that Lord, I want you to forgive. I want you to forgive me. Come on, we gotta be in alignment because when something's out of order, it's disalignment. And we want to be in alignment, congruent with what God wants to do in our lives, in our minds, in our bodies, and in our spirits. Because this is a holistic approach. Come on, here it's not just our minds, it's it's everything, your finances, it's your whole life, your relationships, it all has to be in alignment. And that's why we have I love this. That's why we have disorders. Because we ain't in order. This means not in alignment. You come on here in disorders, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you're not in alignment, it's not in order with what God is trying to do with your life, it's not in order, beloved, so what God is trying to heal in your life. Jesus, Jesus. Alignment and disorders.

SPEAKER_01

Listen, I'm about to walk out. Listen, you just dropped some bolos. Y'all better catch it. Alignment. Get in alignment. Now, I was just talking to this girlfriend yesterday. It's so funny that you brought up the chiropractor. She said, Keisha, you know, all these years, you know, I've knew about chiropractors and, you know, you know, thought that they were kind of quacky. And, you know, when chiropractors first came out, people thought of them as quacks. You know, they weren't real doctors and all of this. And she said, and I've been having all these back issues and all these things. And my doctor just referred me to a chiropractor. And I was like, I really didn't want to go to the chiropractor because, you know, they're not real doctors. She said, and girl, everything was out of alignment. I didn't realize that I'm thinking this is a quack doctor. When this doctor was trying to put my body back in alignment so that I wouldn't have all these ailments that I have. Okay. And so we have to, like you said, you know, be intentional about being aligned with the will of God, with the will of God. And it is, it is his will that we be in peace. It is his will that we be healed and whole, right? It is his will. So I girl, I love, and it's your portion.

SPEAKER_00

Come on. And it's your birthright.

SPEAKER_03

Come on, we're to hear, right? With a holy priesthood. That's your portion. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what you deserve. That's what God has given you. So why aren't we living up to that? I need to be free. I need to be whole. I need to be healed. That's my portion. That's my heritage. That's my lineage in Christ. That's my birthright. Come on. You were born, beloved, into this thing. You were born, listen, into royalty. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, that's that's what you deserve, and nothing less.

SPEAKER_01

And nothing less. Y'all, y'all better catch it. She says, Y'all was born into royalty. You better know who you are, kings and queens, and accept nothing less. And that's even from yourself. From yourself. Love yourself enough to release yourself and to release other people, right? Because that's what we're saying is if I truly love me, then I'm not gonna do something intentionally to damage my body, my mental capacity, my emotional capacity. And when we hold on to anger, resentment, unforgiveness, I call them all kissing cousins because they all go together, right?

SPEAKER_02

That's right. Yes.

SPEAKER_01

When we hold on to that stuff, I mean, and here's the thing can't nobody make you hold on to nothing. That's right. You choose whether you want to hold on to something. You know, when people coach with me, they ask me, first thing they always ask me, Pastor Danny, is and people don't coach with me long. I've been coaching almost 20 years. I've been a forgiveness coach. And people do not coach with me long. Okay, they always say, Well, how long is it gonna take me to heal? How long is it gonna take me to get past this? And I'm very straightforward. I say, as long as you want it to. That's right. As long as you want it to. You get to make the choice on whether you want to release somebody or not. And even if we don't have all the tools, we have a voice to say, Lord, I don't want to hold this anymore.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, you know, I love that, Miss Keisha. I'm reminded of a story. A pastor gave a story of two different stories, and and there was a mother who was in a hospital sick, and the son uh had to forgive, or you know, whatever it was. And um the mother, you know, went to glory, and the son had the decision to forgive, and the son did not forgive for what happened to his mother and all of these different things. And the pastor said, if you just forgive, all of this will go away. She was, you know, the son was like, Why am I having all this? And why is my mama this and why is this? And the the pastor said, All you gotta do is forgive and let it go. Yeah, let go of what your stepfather did to your mother, let go of this and this and this, and this is why you're feeling this way. And the son said, I will never forgive. There's another story on the contrast where the son said, What do I need to do? Because I see this going on with my mother, the son and the father, or the pastor said, You just gotta forgive. He said, I let it go right now. Do you know, Miss Katie, that the mother became healed from the son's forgiveness? Jesus again, we hold all this. The most precious place is your heart. And a lot of pressure and stress that we hold is where around your heart. And we wonder culturally why we have all these heart conditions. It's a it's a heart matter, yeah. It's a heart matter, yeah, it's getting to the stem of what's going on in your heart, and releasing is so important, even to people passing because they haven't released. We have individuals that have passed because they haven't forgave, they took it to the grave. Remember it and let it go so that you can live. Yeah, yeah. I I think about our loved ones, they've gone on, but we still have to live life here. Yeah, you still have to make it through every day, and if you release it and forgive, you will live. That that's where life happens in the way your life will begin. I know you're 50 something years old. Come on, life will begin again for you once you release.

SPEAKER_01

My god, once you forgive, my god, my god, y'all don't miss. She said, Life will begin. So you're never too old. It's never too late. You understand? To experience God's abundant joy, and we don't say these things figuratively, we don't say these things a hope and intuition. You okay? We don't say these things like it's magic. And uh no, we say these things because it's the truth of the matter. You know, we believe God is who He says he is and can do what He says he can do. Period. You know, and you know, you said in the beginning, you know, I want people to understand forgiveness is a lifetime process. It is a lifetime journey because people gonna make you mad, they're gonna offend you, they're gonna hurt your feelings, they're gonna look on a daily basis. And guess what? You may do the same to somebody else. Okay, so it's not just us seeking forgiveness from them, but it's also we've got to forgive ourselves for the things that we've done. You know, we've all hurt somebody along our lifetime journey, we've all done some things wrong, so we all fall short of the glory of God. But the beautiful thing is the moment we repent, the moment we ask for forgiveness, it's gone with God. Right? And that's the way we have to treat people. You know, there'll be times where you can reconcile with folks, but there'll be times where you can't. Where you can't. You may never get a I'm sorry, from somebody that may have passed on, but you can't let your journey of forgiveness, you can't hold unforgiveness waiting on them.

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That's right.

SPEAKER_01

Right, it's gonna hurt you if the Lord decided to crack the sky in 2.2 seconds.

SPEAKER_03

That's right.

SPEAKER_01

That's right. That's how real it has to be. We have to ask ourselves, especially as believers. I'm talking to the believers now, as believers who claim Christ, but we still walking around talking about people, we still walking around tearing down people, we still walking around dishonoring, disrespecting, you know, we're still doing all this stuff, but we say we're believers, we're gonna be held accountable for that. So just make it right now and repent, right? Yes, yes. My gosh. So I want to ask you, you know, I know for the sake of your time, I'm gonna have to have you on again. I'm gonna have to have her on again, y'all. I'm gonna have to have her back because, you know, this woman of God has so much, and she's so full of him, of our daddy God, and has experienced so much, she has a breakthrough anointing on her that I don't want people to miss it. I want them to get the fullness of you. So you're gonna have to come back again. We're gonna have to have you again. I just want to honor your time. Oh my gosh, this has just been so, so amazing. Uh, you this has been a powerhouse. I hope you guys have gotten so many nuggets. Like I said, we are definitely gonna have her back. So make sure you like, share, and tag and look out for her return. But before we go, do you mind just praying over the listeners, those out there that may still be experiencing unforgiveness?

SPEAKER_03

Yes, ma'am. Amen. Let us pray, beloved. Hallelujah. Spirit of the living God, we give you glory, we give you honor, we give you praise. Father God, we thank you for the gift of forgiveness. So, for right now, Father God, in the name of Jesus, we pray for every listener out there. Father God, we pray a spirit of release in their hearts and a spirit of release in their minds right now in the name of Jesus. Father God, a spirit of forgiveness that is flowing through the lines right now in the name of forgiveness. Father God, we choose to forgive. Father God, we choose to love, we choose to forgive in spite of how we've been treated or what happened in that situation. Father, we choose right now in the name of Jesus, not even to know all the facts and what happened. Father God, we release the unknown to you right now in the name of Jesus. I feel that. But somebody release the unknown. I don't know where it's coming or what happened, but Lord, I choose right now to release. Lord, I choose right now, I make a decision to forgive. Thank you. Father God, we forgive now in the name of Jesus. Father God, let your forgiveness flow in their lives, let your love flow in their lives. Let your freedom flow in their lives in the name of Jesus. Father God, you tell us where the spirit of the Lord is. There's liberty. So, Father God, we know that your spirit is on and flowing in the forgiveness show. They are free right now. We decree and declare freedom in the name of Jesus, that their mind is free, their backs are free, their bodies are free. Jesus are free and released right now in the name of Jesus. Father, we give you glory, we give you honor, and we give you praise for holistic and total healing. In Jesus' mighty and matchless name, we pray. Amen, amen, and amen.

SPEAKER_01

Woo! Y'all be back for round two. Y'all come back for round two when I have Pastor Danny back on again. This powerhouse, powerhouse, powerhouse. I feel God's anointing is presence in this place. You guys, oh my God. I almost can't even speak. Lord Jesus, we thank you. So you guys make sure you I'm gonna have her share how to get in touch with her. This is a dynamic, a praise dancer, a speaker, an author, a coach, you name it, a motivator. She is a just a woman to know. A woman to know. And so, how can they get in touch with you? How can they contact you?

SPEAKER_03

Awesome. Thank you, beloved. So it's just my Facebook, which is my name, Danny How Morris. Send me a message and I'll get back to you.

SPEAKER_01

Amen. And she will. So we just want to thank you guys again for tuning in to the Forgive Podcast. We appreciate you. If you need help forgiving or walking, you know, closer in your intimacy with God. Make sure you hit me up at forgivwithkeisha.com. I'd love to take that journey with you. Until next time, we thank you. Make sure you like, share, tag, and subscribe. And we'll see you guys next time. Amen. Bye bye.