EP#50 - Surron Hyper Bee TESTED!

We put a 6 year old and a 10 year old on the Surron Hyper Bee to see how it goes in the 50 cos and 65 class because this one bike can ride in two classes if you switch the wheels from 10/12-inch combo to 12/14 inch combo. Would the hyper Bee be too much bike for a kids int he 50 class or would it be too slow for a kid in the 65 class. We ask our 50 and 65 tester to find out. 

Transcript

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Welcome to the ADB podcast where we talk all things dirt with your host, Mitch Lee.

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All right, the Seuron Hyper B. What is it? A lot of people have been asking us where does this fit? I'm Mitch Lee's header of ADB magazine, and we hit up the guys at Mojo Motorcycles who import this particular bike to see, yeah, I guess where it fits, what it does. Because it was confusing to us because we know it comes in a 10 and 12 inch and a 14 and 12 inch wheel size. And that means that this bike is officially homologated to race in both the 50 and the 65 class. Now, you just that confuses us because a bike that's powerful enough to run in a 65 class surely can't be allowed to run in a 50 class. Turns out it is. Um that's pretty cool. So if you're kind of looking for a bike that you have maybe kids in both classes and you don't want to be spending money on two different bikes, you could buy one bike and a couple of extra batteries and two sets of wheels and swap them over between races if you've got uh time to do that. Uh but uh yeah, we first saw these turn up uh personally at Melbourne Supercross last year in November and race around in a uh fun race in front of the crowd on a supercross track, and we kind of took like sat up and took notice because anything that can tackle a supercross track is actually pretty solid. Now the Seuron I guess has had a bit of a bad reputation because of all the idiots out there that are getting them and doing wheelies up and down the street uh illegally and giving us a bad uh reputation. Uh that is not the image that the official distributor of Seuron in Australia wants to portray. Um they can be used, like we have found out, as a full-blown kids race bike, um, which is cool, but they also have models and they can also be used as a farm bike, as a recreational bike for kids at ride parks, that kind of thing. Certainly not for doing wheelies on the main road down your local town. Yes, they look cool, and some of it is incredibly talented, but it just isn't the image that we want to uh be portraying. So make it very clear that Seuron, the official distributor of Seuron here in Australia, that that that's not what they're going after. They actually want to go after the motocross market and the recreational trail riding market on private property. Anyway, so we grabbed a Seuron Hyper B and we put it on a six-year-old, my son Jackson, who's racing a 50, and we gave it to uh Henley, who is our uh my co-host on this podcast, Jeff Briggs. It's his daughter. Uh, she's racing a 65, and we thought, hey, the two of you can go ride this thing and tell us what you think for uh someone in the 65 class and what you think for someone in the 50 class. And that's what we did. So we got the two on them. Both kids are gonna race the bike uh in the 14 and 12 and then 10 and 12 inch spec. We're gonna do it at Junior Trials Club at Gwendolyn on uh for some mini karna for some maybe less intense competitive racing, so we can make sure this thing can actually do it. Um first impression is that this thing is wild for a 50. It's gonna kill a lot of 50s in terms of speed and power. Uh, but anyway, we're gonna get into that testing in a second. Uh but before I do, I do want to uh thank our sponsors. We've got Dunlop uh sponsoring the show with the AT82 tire. Um that has been a really good tire. We've been testing it actually on our Shirko long-term test bike, and uh yeah, it is incredible because it's multi-directional, so you can kind of flick the tire around depending on the terrain that you're uh riding it, which is pretty cool. And obviously, our other sponsor is uh Sherko. Uh Sherko is sponsoring this podcast with a finance deal. They have uh launched an incredibly incredibly low-rate finance offer on their latest 2026 factory two-stroke range. You can get a Sherko 2 banger for 3.89% comparison rate over two years or 4.89% comparison rate over three years. That's probably gonna be less than whatever you're paying in your mortgage right now. So you're better off getting a loan than ripping it out of your mortgage or your offset account, however, you do your finances. Uh, and that's through the Sherko Fast Finance. So go check it out. We love the Sherko 2 Strokes, they have been winners of our uh two-stroke comparos and shootouts in the past. They are amongst the best bikes you can get in that space. Head to a dealer or head to shirko.com.au for more details. Alright, without further ado, let's rip into this Suron Hyper B test with a six-year-old and a 10 slash 11-year-old comparing them as a 14 and 12 inch and a 10 and 12 inch tire combination. Alright, that is a rat. It's about feels like a 200% humidity right now. I'm sweating, everyone's sweating, even the kids have worked up a sweat. We are done testing the uh Seuron Hyper V. Now, like I said earlier, we have Henley here who is 11 and he's kind of on a 65 right now, but going to transition to an 85 in the next 12 months. And Jaxie, who rides a 50, he's six years old. Um, so let's start with you, Henley. What did you think, firstly, of level power mode one on the Seuron?

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Too slow.

SPEAKER_01 4:48

Too slow, yeah. I thought so. I could say you were looking for more power around the slipper.

SPEAKER_02 4:51

I could barely get around the slippery corn like you know the bog bits on the corners, I couldn't get out of them basically.

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And when you like open the throttle, it doesn't really, it just takes off normally. Yeah. Begin and level.

SPEAKER_02 5:02

Yeah.

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Yeah. Uh brakes. What do you think of the brakes?

SPEAKER_02 5:06

Easy.

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They're great, aren't they? They're solid. Don't forget, um nice and soft. Yeah, soft. Okay, good. So they're kind of easy to feel. And also, did you like the fact they're both up here?

SPEAKER_03 5:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:15

Uh so did it take you a while to remember that there's no brake on your foot or was it pretty quick?

SPEAKER_03 5:19

No.

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Okay, you ride a push bike?

SPEAKER_03 5:21

Yeah. Yeah.

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Okay, similar to push bike, so there you go. So transition for Henley off her you know regular setup bike to this one actually wasn't as different as I would have thought. Um, suspension-wise, soft, firm, kind of just right?

SPEAKER_02 5:34

Light, like you could barely even feel that it was pressing down.

SPEAKER_01 5:37

Okay.

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And it was really soft.

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Okay, good. So not firm, but still felt quite comfortable. We didn't feel any big bumps.

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No.

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Uh, do you feel comfortable in the aggressive mode? We'll get to that in a second, to race this as it's kind of set up.

SPEAKER_02 5:50

Yeah, because it's like easy over the bumps, like over there when I was jumping, like they were nice and easy.

SPEAKER_01 5:56

Yep. And power-wise, let's talk about the level three. So level two was kind of, I guess. Mid. Mid, yeah. Okay, like fast enough to have fun.

SPEAKER_02 6:04

Yeah, but too slow for racing.

SPEAKER_01 6:06

Too slow for racing. There you go. Fast enough for fun, too slow for racing, but level three, you reckon that'd be competitive race. I saw you take off before, and as you took off, it just wheelied twice just to get going.

SPEAKER_02 6:15

Yeah, it's good.

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Level three would be competitive against your 65 and your other friends on 65. Yeah. Yeah, there you go. Um, but it feels more agile and lighter and easier to turn, bits and pieces like that.

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Yeah.

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Would you be comfortable racing an electric bike against all your friends on 65 combustion engines?

SPEAKER_03 6:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:32

Cool. Um, and there's no stigma around oh it's electric, it's not as cool, or is it your for your age bracket, electric's cool? I mean, I know Jax is all about loves electric bikes as well.

SPEAKER_02 6:42

Electric's cool, but I do like the petrol. Yeah. But I think electric's a bit better.

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Okay. Jax, I'm gonna talk to you, mate. Now you have to ride this in the 65 setup, so as you can see in some of the video, it's a little bit tall for and he can only just get his feet on the ground. Briggsy was able to kind of hold it up for him while he took off. Jax, what did you think of the power modes, level one, two, and three? Which one was your favourite?

SPEAKER_03 7:05

Well, I think this happened in level two. I was a bit scared because when I did that zoning jump when I turned like that, it was a bit scary because I thought I was gonna like like I was in the surf and I was gonna get around like I was getting a barrel.

SPEAKER_01 7:21

Oh, like you're gonna get a barrel. Okay, so it felt like in level two. Felt like in level two, you did do a little jump, it got a little bit sideways like you're gonna get barreled in the surf, like when you surf. Yeah. Okay, so what do you think of level three? Your six years old, was level three too aggressive, or did was it okay to control? Could you you didn't loop out anytime, you didn't crash from trying to go too fast around a corner? How did you feel in the fastest mode?

SPEAKER_03 7:43

Comfortable.

SPEAKER_01 7:43

Okay, so you could ride it. You didn't ever feel like it's a bit scary?

SPEAKER_03 7:46

No.

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Now we also noticed you standing up a lot when you were riding. Why did you stand up?

SPEAKER_03 7:50

Did it just feel like a good position to stand up in, or I just feel like a good thing to stand up in.

SPEAKER_01 7:56

Okay, and what about level one for your age group? People might think maybe a six-year-old. Way too slow, okay. That seems to be the general consensus from all the other little tests we've had on here today is that level one is just too slow. They all want the fast mode. Um, Jax, you've ridden heaps of electric bikes, so you used to brakes being up here and not on the foot. How did the brakes feel? Were they pretty pretty accurate and pretty close to perfect?

SPEAKER_03 8:17

Yeah, and I'm kind of learning to use the front brake now.

SPEAKER_01 8:20

Oh, that's good, yeah. We've noticed that Jax has just got a tendency to grab the back brake, no front brake, and then we're trying to teach him to jump on the front brake. So that's good. So this is helping you learn. Is that because it's light and it's easy to get to?

SPEAKER_03 8:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:30

Yeah, I find these look they're like little mountain bike brakes, they're so light.

SPEAKER_03 8:34

Um and we're a little bit far away.

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Okay, well, we I I believe you can there is adjustment. Yeah, so you can adjust those levers to actually come in closer to his little fingers. And then the last question I got for you, buddy, how did it feel in terms of size? Was it too tall? Did you feel a little bit scared if you had to put your feet down?

SPEAKER_03 8:52

No, but only when I had to stop.

SPEAKER_01 8:54

Okay, and did you feel it's suspension?

SPEAKER_03 8:56

I was only this much scared.

SPEAKER_01 8:58

That much, okay. Did you feel the suspension move?

SPEAKER_03 9:01

Not really.

SPEAKER_01 9:02

Okay, so it's it was probably a little bit firm for Jax's suspension. I mean, I I'm not sure how you go getting different spring weights for these bikes, we'll have to do a little bit of research. We've got this bike for a year. Um it looked firm for Jax. He weighs roughly 25 to 30 kilos, um, so it's a little bit firm, but otherwise he could ride it fine. It was just a little bit that um under his crutch, getting his feet on the ground is a bit tricky. Now, Briggsie, yes, Henley is your daughter, she wants to do some racing this year for the first time. Same with Jax. Would you feel confident turning up to a race meet with one of these to race against 65s, knowing that Henley, it's her first year racing, she's not out there to take out the club championship, and she's put you know the last five years and 70 hours a week into it. Would you feel comfortable jumping on one of these?

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Yeah, I think so. Yeah, especially like because we're gonna probably do an injury or two as well. I think it'd be really good in the bush. Okay. I think turn it down to level two where it's not getting away from her, it's not gonna beat her up, she's not worrying about a clutch. She could probably navigate over some trees and sticks and that a bit easier with the throttle, and I think it'd actually be really good for that sort of stuff. Um, automatic cost track will be fine. The only thing is just with all the noise with the other kids here, I sort of thing, if she's on the inside or outside. Um, otherwise, but it's got a horn, so she can beep if she needs to, but yeah, I think it'd be alright, yeah.

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Okay. Uh any hesitations around like just looking at the bill bits and pieces. You know, the swing arm looks lighter and thinner, the bike is lighter to pick up than a combustion engine. Any concerns around some of the um, you know, like we said, Henley's not out raising a state title tomorrow.

SPEAKER_00 10:29

Look, I think with a top level 65 kid, you'd have to do some fatigue testing on parts and that sort of stuff. Um they they push 65s pretty hard, some of these kids, especially when they're doing soup cross and the riding they do. So I don't know how it'd hold up to like a top level 65 kid, but I think for most of your club kids and below, yeah, perfect.

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Yeah, they had these at Melbourne Supercross racing around the track, and they were jumping them and doing all those all the uh some of the obstacles uh around the Melbourne Supercross track, and they were okay. So we didn't see any bikes you know braking or snapping in half, everything made it perfectly fine. Um, but like you said, it'd be interesting to see over a course of a year if you uh yeah to get quite a gray, quite good at racing, and just to be hammering braking bumps constantly on some of this gear because it is nice and lightweight, which is perfect for the kids. But with that, it means you have thinner, smaller tolerances on parts. Uh, so that'd be interesting. The other thing that we're keen to test is the battery level. Now, the these kids have been riding it, it's just gone one o'clock and they need some lunch, but they've been riding it pretty much all morning, and we're only we've only used half the battery. Yeah, so pretty efficient, pretty good. Hey, and as you can see, this battery is so easy, you just switch it, flick out, open that switch, and you can pull the battery out, and you can stick a whole new battery in. So it's actually really easy to swap the battery out as well. Uh, okay, that's it for now. That's our first test. We are gonna do more testing. We've got this thing for a year, so we're gonna keep bringing it back up here. These two are gonna keep testing it and see how good they get, and we're also gonna take these guys racing and we're gonna try and get them to race the same bike in two different classes on the same day by swapping the wheels and probably bringing them.

SPEAKER_02 11:56

I just feel like I might it's a bit smaller than my 65. That's the only thing that's different.

SPEAKER_01 12:01

Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, so dimensions-wise, Henley feels it's probably just a little bit smaller than her 65, and we'll probably know whether or not that plays into your head when you go racing, and then you spend more time on it, which would be interesting. Yeah, okay, guys. We'll come back to you when we go racing on this bike. We can't wait to do it. That's what these two thought of it as testers. And if you're looking at them, what they're like, remember it's got three power modes, the third one is awesome aggressive, they both like the aggressive mode, and it is fast enough to keep up with the 65. I imagine it'll probably blow a 50 out of the water. Uh, and level one can even be used as a beginner. It's lightweight, it's easy to get uh your feet on the ground when you say Henley size, and uh all the components seem pretty good. So stay tuned as we keep testing it, we'll come back to you.