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Hello everyone and welcome back to Sports Live with Steve and Justin. How are you, Justin?
SPEAKER_00:I'm still full from lunch yesterday. Thank you.
SPEAKER_03:We had lunch yesterday?
SPEAKER_00:No, your recommendation to go up to Gilligan's.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, that's right. I was like, I didn't remember that. Yeah, no, that place is unbelievable, right?
SPEAKER_00:It was great. Really was. A lot of food for a lot of bang for your buck. And I was uh I was I was able to take a whole bowl full of clams home to my mother who loves mussels and clams. And uh it was almost like five pounds in that box.
SPEAKER_03:And you didn't you didn't have the lobster though. The lobster's amazing.
SPEAKER_00:I had I had lobster tails, but I did not get the stuffed lobster, but now I know we can go back because my wife is already planning our next visit.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I like the broad one. I mean, listen, it's half the price of anywhere else. Half the price.
SPEAKER_00:Outrageous. Who was outrageous?
SPEAKER_03:And if anybody wants to know where that is, just reach out to me or or Justin and we'll we'll let you know. But uh it's in Rockland County, I'll give you a hint. New York. So the wildest few days between the NCAA semis. What a week for football. Wild. I mean, I was watching football since Thursday.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Every night there's a game on. And there's one tonight that we're gonna see.
SPEAKER_00:I'm still a little shocked by that that we're having a Monday night football game on playoff game. But pretty cool. More football.
SPEAKER_03:I know. The only thing is on Saturday, I could I hate to even say it. I could use the little football right at one o'clock. Because you're used to the two games on Saturday and the two games on Sunday. But this time we had two, we ended up with six games, you know, so it's done a little differently now, which is amazing. What'd you think about, you know, Amazon Prime has gotten so lucky with these games. I mean, people complain because it's on Amazon, but I have to say that I think the group that they have there does a great job.
SPEAKER_00:I agree. They were they were watchable for sure.
SPEAKER_03:For a change? In that case, listenable too. And the games they've gotten this year have been amazing.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, they're they're the NFL and the streaming partners are doing the best job they can to give you a watchable product. So they want big teams and big names, big quarterback names anyway, because they're they're trying to shift us into the next era of I guess we'll we call it watchability, which is streaming. And um, I'm not a fan of of that because it's it's so fragmented, I feel like it should still be available on regular television. But you know, we act we asked for the last 30 or so years to cable television and our local teams being on their own channels. So it's just you know, it's the way of the future if you want to watch or consume pro sports.
SPEAKER_03:Absolutely.
SPEAKER_00:And I mean secondary sports are starting to get more airtime, I noticed. It seems like things like the WNBA, the Women's Volleyball League, even G League or D League basketball is being televised where you didn't have that before.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_00:So there's still, you know, a market for people who want to watch sports, but it it's it's getting ever more exclusive.
SPEAKER_03:So I don't know if it was Thursday or Friday, I want to say it was Friday, now that you bring that up. I heard an interview with Stephen A and and Dana White talking about UFC now on the streaming service. And it's now on Paramount Plus. And just to talk about television coverage for a minute before we get to the games. So there is no more pay-per-view. I mean, I I think he signed, I think it was like a$17 billion deal or something. There is no more pay-per-view. So no more having to have watch not only ESPN, but you had to have ESPN Plus, and then you had to get the pay-per-view. So now all you have to have is Paramount Plus. And I have it. I don't know if you have it, I watch it all the time. I think I have it on the stick. They have great shows. I mean, you know, I can go on and on. Um, but they have some great shows on Paramount Plus. And what's interesting is that there's no more pay-per-view. And so we're gonna see great fights on Paramount Plus for just the cost of admission, so to speak.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I think that tells you that there's you know, making the move from pay-per-view to something like streaming or these other services, it's always about money, which means that if they were willing to give up their pay-per-view money, they got big money elsewhere.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, they got more money than they would have gotten. And they realize that that dynamic is gonna create a wider audience because pay-per-view obviously keeps people away. It was limited for sure, you know. And now you're gonna be open to a wider audience, and this is something else that he announced, and you're gonna find this interesting. I don't think we spoke about it. And that is he is starting his own regular boxing that he's gonna run just like UFC. Everybody fights, everybody. No more con certain um promoters controlling fighters, controlling fights, guys fighting fake fights, not real contenders. Yeah. He said none of that.
SPEAKER_00:You're gonna have to earn it.
SPEAKER_03:You're gonna have to earn it, and everybody fights everybody. That's the way it's gonna work.
SPEAKER_00:I think he's enabled to do that because the money's so big. You don't have to worry about creating matchups. It's you're gonna fight who I tell you to fight, and you're still gonna make money.
SPEAKER_03:And every month, there's gonna be a big fight, whether it's welterweight, whether it's heavyweight, whatever it is. So you're gonna have on Paramount Plus, UFC, and the return of boxing. And we know, listen, one thing we know for sure is White really knows what he's doing, right?
SPEAKER_00:Well, he's a very smart man, and he is the frontman for that entity. I I I watched uh a video recently on the UFC rabbit hole, so I I won't I won't go deep at all. But uh there are some big names behind Dana White now that probably weren't there before.
SPEAKER_03:Right, because because that big company bought UFC and they bought uh WWE or whatever that whatever the thing is. So that company controls both of those. Now they're run totally differently.
SPEAKER_00:I would uh Yeah, uh if you if you look into them, if you want to check their Wikipedia pages or keep clicking links, you'll you'll get back to some pretty prominent names that might surprise you.
SPEAKER_02:What's interesting.
SPEAKER_03:What's interesting, my friend just takes me, he goes, all the things you do. I don't know how you sleep. What what's what's interesting is that when UFC was kind of floundering, didn't really take that big push, was out there whatever, there was an option to buy that. What's his name, son? The guy from WWE, what's his name? McMahon. McMahon's son wanted to buy UFC and kind not merge them together, but to run UFC like like it is. And McMahon said no. And he said no, or Dana White said no. McMahon said no. Vince McMahon. Vince McMahon, and it was very expensive. It was billions. I think it was billions. And McMahon told his son, you want to buy it? Buy it with your money, not mine. And listen, we know that the fall of McMahon comes soon after that, but um, not that the fall of WWE, I mean, that's making loads of money, and um that's involved in ESPN, uh, which is a little weird, I think, for me, is that you're watching an ESPN show and they're talking about football and gambling, and in the same breath they're talking about WWE, which It's pretty incredible.
SPEAKER_00:Which to see where it was when it first started and where it is now.
SPEAKER_03:Right. So you you think about here you have you're gambling on something that gambling on football, which we don't know the outcome, and you're advertising WWE, which the income with the outcomes are all predetermined. So it makes you scratch your head a little bit. To me, it does.
SPEAKER_00:Some people are wondering if the outcomes are predetermined in the NFL.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, come on. We don't think that's true. We think that maybe there's a little shaving going on.
SPEAKER_00:I my issue is that it's it's already been through court where you know we've been told that you are not entitled to fair play, that it's entertainment. So I'm not saying that that is proof that any of these games are rigged, but that it's that you're not entitled to fair play, and there are companies out there that allow you to gamble. To me, that's a problem. If you're not getting fair play, and you know you're not getting fair play and you're still gambling on it, you know. I I would imagine if you called that helpline, they would tell you that you have a problem. So, you know, if you think it's on the up, that's a different story. Yeah, I mean But it didn't, you know, we didn't listen, we didn't used to allow gambling for for a reason. And, you know, it always comes down to some politician making money and changing the laws, and it went, you know, we just most recently was the 2018 law that, or in 2018, that law, the Bill Bradley law, got overturned, and all of a sudden we have gambling on phones and you can gamble anywhere in the country.
SPEAKER_03:So let's put that aside for a minute. Let's talk about the weekend, right? Um, it almost uh it's almost surreal that every game came down to the end, right?
SPEAKER_00:Oh, except for the last Friday night didn't text you that it's like watching basketball now. You could just turn the game on the last four minutes and you'll see all you need to see.
SPEAKER_03:Well, I don't know about that.
SPEAKER_00:They go back and forth three or four times apiece in the last four or five minutes, and the score changes three or four times, it's pretty incredible. Well, Pete Russell I don't remember football being like that every game.
SPEAKER_03:Pete Rosell will call will tell you that there's a lot of parody right now.
SPEAKER_00:Well, I think that kickoff rule plays a big part.
SPEAKER_03:Kickoff rule changes a lot. And it's different. I'm not sure. I do like the idea they're not running down the field full speed and smashing into each other for no reason whatsoever. That certainly slows the game down, changes the game a little bit. I mean, they really I mean it's almost strange when I watch it. I'm like, he kicked the ball, why isn't anybody moving? And then you go, oh yeah, it's some kind of scam thing that the NFL came up with so nobody gets hurt. Yeah. I think I I hesitatingly say I think it works. Um so back to the week. So Thursday night's game, Miami comes out crazed, they really take it to the game goes back and forth, comes down to the final minutes.
SPEAKER_00:They had a lot of energy. For sure.
SPEAKER_03:Indiana comes out on Friday, they look better prepared than any NFL team I've seen this year. They have clicking on all sales, they execute the interception out of the gate, they're behind. The other team was never ahead. Yeah, no doubt about it. First play the game, right? They are a force to be reckoned with.
SPEAKER_00:Indiana is, you know, timing and precision. You know, they run a lot of RPOs to kind of uh neutralize pass rushers and bait the secondary, particularly safeties. So, you know, they they do a really they're very finely tuned. Like you said, they're they don't just go out there and draw a play in the dirt. They've been practicing and it and you could tell that Signetti's got got them, you know, well oiled at this point. Whereas Miami coming into this game, you know, they're more about chaos and disruption. So it's it's two teams that are, you know, they're not mirror images of one another, two very different philosophical or philosophically run programs. And, you know, this is a home game for Miami. It's in Miami. So that's that is gonna be a huge factor, I'm sure. And we'll see. You know, uh, if if Indiana, you know, can beat Indiana, and why would they not be? They should be able to move the ball. And that's not a knock on Miami's defense, just going by the scores of these games. I mean, Miami had their hands full in their first game, they won 10-3. Um, and then they played Ohio State, and that was, you know, relatively close in scoring, you know, it was it 20, 24, 14. Um, but then, you know, they basically get in a shootout with Old Miss. And the quarterback from Ole Miss looked incredible. I mean, he was hitting everything. Um, he made some plays on his feet and with his legs, and he seemed to make every throw. Um, and Miami uh had virtually no answer. Uh it was almost like, you know, it came down to who was gonna have last possession, and it was Miami, you know. Um, but Indiana just absolutely steamrolled Oregon, which was their second matchup. And a lot of people were saying, oh, this will be different. It'll be, you know, the one they, I mean, they absolutely this was took him behind the wood chef type type game.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. I think, you know, we'll talk more about it next Monday, right before the championship game, but I think it was I think the semis were were good for for college football.
SPEAKER_00:They were two good matches. Well, the one good matchup, but yeah. I mean, well, the other one was good.
SPEAKER_03:It's just a dominant team. You get that too. And they had played once already.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So, and then we move to Saturday, and we start off with the Rams and Carolina Panthers. And, you know, Carolina comes out fighting. Rams look a little sluggish from the beginning. You're thinking that the Rams who were who finished number five on the list of teams in their division, in their uh conference, you you say to yourself, you know, they really need to play better than that. They both need to play better than this to kind of win to kind of go all the way.
SPEAKER_00:Their special teams have been subpar for sure. And it does make a difference, especially the further along you go in the playoffs. And, you know, you know, a couple times we've seen this season, you know, especially that Philly game, where the Rams lost to Philly, it was special teams that that that lost them that game. Um, the game against Seattle, which was really the difference maker in the entire conference. I mean, that ball hitting off the guy's head and rolling around, the guy's presence enough to pick it up in the end zone, and it's it's not blown dead, that game easily could have went the Rams' way. It's they didn't really do anything wrong in that game. I mean, they get let up a lot of points, but essentially that that play, that one play was was the difference in being a one-seed or being a two-seed versus being a five-seed.
SPEAKER_03:Right. So, so, but on Saturday, I thought, you know, Carolina came out good. They got a young quarterback, they were really playing well. I mean, I think they have a lot of future ahead of them. Yeah, I think so. It's funny that almost all the games, not all of them, but almost all of them, one team dominated the first half and the other team dominated the second half, and the one that dominated the second half ends up winning the game at the end.
SPEAKER_00:It's almost like there's no plan B. I say it all the time that you know you can see a team, we've seen it all season. You know, didn't the Cowboys come back and beat the Eagles, and the Eagles are up 21 in that game?
SPEAKER_03:Well, I'm gonna get to you, I'm gonna get to the Eagles, and I think, and I really think that my prophecies came very true with the Eagles, even though they haven't fired the coach yet. So I know that I'm still shocked to be honest.
SPEAKER_00:I thought they would win at least one game.
SPEAKER_03:The Fat Lady hasn't hasn't sung on that. I mean, on them and what's gonna happen. Then we get the Bears in Green Bay.
SPEAKER_00:They were talking about Suryani getting fired in the postgame. So I I, you know, for them to even mention that or it to be relevant, even though they just lost in the playoff, they still won a Super Bowl last year.
SPEAKER_03:So Yes, but that was the let's all right. You want to talk about we'll we'll jump ahead. Jump ahead to the Eagles and talk about San Francisco and the Eagles. All right. First of all, both teams um listen, San Francisco's a little beat up. They have a lot of guys out. They're a lot beat up.
SPEAKER_00:Considering key players out on defense.
SPEAKER_03:They lost and big players, and then they lose. But they have a good defensive coach. Used to be the coach of the Jets. He's very good, and he proved to give him credit. He proved his worth on that day. But what's interesting about Green Bay, I think that their play correlation got a you got I'm sorry, did I switch things? We're talking about the Eagles. We're talking about the Eagles and 49ers, I'm sorry. The interesting, I thought the game plan for the Eagles was the worst game plan I ever saw in my life. There were no plays that were NFL caliber level. Everything was like a high school call. If you look at the last series of downs, they called the same play three times in a row. And if you were watching carefully and you saw on the sideline, the quarterback is sitting there talking to the coach, and he's like, Are you kidding me? Mm-hmm. And you know, the implication is now, after watching it all and and thinking back at it and seeing some analysts, he was going, That's all we got? We're not gonna call anything else. And they were in the same play. And their defense, the 49ers defense, just said, all right, you want to run it again, run it again. We'll beat you again. And it wasn't successful the first three times they ran it. So I really thought the game plan, listen, the offensive coordinator's got to be out of there if they didn't fire him already. I didn't see because I was working more today. But he's horrible. And I I think the coach has got to go. You gotta try to get, you know, if you can get Harbaugh in there, you'd be, you'd be, you'd be sitting so pretty, or the other guy.
SPEAKER_00:He's got so much talent. And again, he was arguing with one of the wide receivers on the sideline. And you could just tell that he's completely detached from reality, or at least it looks that way. He's I mean, I don't if I was the owner of the team and I saw this behavior week in and week out over the season, I'd have to be wondering, how the hell did we win a Super Bowl last year?
SPEAKER_03:I agree.
SPEAKER_00:And ask me what changed from last year to this year, who's not there? You want that guy back. But I think the most telling thing for me in that game.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, I I think their offensive coordinator went somewhere else, and now as a coach or something.
SPEAKER_00:So the most telling thing for me was when they said that the backup running back averaged more yards per carry than Saquon. Saquon then got hurt. They bring that guy in, and he's ripping off chunks of yardage on the you know, inside the tackles. And I'm saying to myself, is there something wrong with Saquon or are they calling different plays? And I had to rewind it a couple of times to look, and I'm like, something's not right. How because Saquon did have a couple of big runs in that game, and they just kept going away from him. I would have pounded him right up San Fran's rear end the entire first half. And they wanted to get cute, like you said. They ran the same plate three times in a row. They did this, they're throwing the ball. What you have the best running back in football. You're playing at home. Use him. This is, I mean, it just didn't make any sense to me.
SPEAKER_03:It really didn't make any sense to me. And and this is the same conversation we had about them many times during the week. The coaching, and it's not the players, because we know the players have. Listen, did Brown drop three places, right?
SPEAKER_00:Oh, that both receivers, AJ Brown and Smith had had big drops in in that last drive. So there's there's some out of sync happening there, and you gotta make those plays in crunch time. You can't drop those passes. Not when you're you're expected to be a top talent on that offense.
SPEAKER_03:And there's some, you know, in football, you have these guys that transcend their heart and their abilities somehow flow together, and they do things that make you scratch your head. You're like, wow. And they do it every time. You know, the Lawrence Taylors of the world, and McCaffrey is one of those guys.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, he I agree. He's incredible talent.
SPEAKER_03:That end around where they uh uh a pass option or whatever it was, and they threw it to McCaffrey. They did not double team McCaffrey. Not only didn't they double team him, I'm not even sure they had somebody watching him.
SPEAKER_00:They took the bait and let him run free. I mean, he had somebody at the end catch up to him, but nobody was watching him out of the backfield.
SPEAKER_03:It isn't just that play. They had nobody, if you watched, you know, you use like a monster man or whatever you want to call it, where you put somebody, this is your guy. You follow him. This play, on this play, you watch McCaffrey. You stay with him and don't let him get past you. They had nobody doing that. The most dangerous guy, maybe in all of football, you know?
SPEAKER_00:Because he can't talented player.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, he can run, he can pass, I mean, he can catch passes, he does whatever. He breaks tackles, he makes things happen. And it's ridiculous that they didn't have any. I don't understand what is going on with that team. I really don't. I don't know what they do all week.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. You have to wonder what the philosophy was and what preparation went into the game plan for for that, for that, because it didn't look like you were waiting for them to take over the game, and the I'm trying to remember what the timing of was the game. It was late in the third quarter, and they were driving, and I had texted Mike, and I don't know if I texted you guys, I said if they don't score a touchdown here, San Francisco's gonna win the game. They kicked a field goal, and that was that. And you could just kind of feel like they kicked that field goal, and you could just even feel the crowd from the television watching that they were just deflated. Like we couldn't score a touchdown there. We're moving the football. We have the lead. If we score a touchdown, you know, the game theoretically should be over. I mean, you deliver, you know, a knockout punch, plenty of time left, but but it just dictates how the rest of the game is played when you only give up three points. And what about people not taking points off turnovers and going for it on fourth down yesterday? We saw it four times or three times. You know, the play calling, all I'm telling you, I I think they just look at a computer screen and it's got a bunch of green boxes and red boxes, and it just clicked the green box to run the play because that's what analytics tells you is a good play here.
SPEAKER_03:There's no way. Who was the first one? There was it was it Carolina? I forget. Who's the first one that ran it from their own 32?
SPEAKER_00:It was the first game.
SPEAKER_03:It was Carolina, right? Or was it Rams?
SPEAKER_00:No.
SPEAKER_03:Who who lost that game? Jesus. Rams, Carolina lost that game.
SPEAKER_00:No, it was uh it was the Jaguars, wasn't it? The Jaguars had a had a who cares who who was first, but yeah, I thought it was the Jaguars.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, well, what are you doing? What are you doing? It's not even close. What are you doing? It's not a yard or two.
SPEAKER_00:We thought it was our best interest. He's telling you the analytics said we should go for it.
SPEAKER_03:And no way the analytics said you could go for it. No way. No way. No way. If the analytics you forgot to punch a number in.
SPEAKER_00:And let me tell you something else. If they have all these analytics are the same, they don't have their own, they're they're all getting it from the same program. So if I'm using analytics to run or pass on a certain down and distance, and the analytics says, run this play. Guess what? The defense has the same chart. They know what to run against it. It's just mind-boggling to me. Trust the analytics instead of coaching the game. What are you doing? And then not kicking field goals on fourth and two. I mean, you're on the road. You're playing. Take the effing points, please. I mean, it's just football one-on-one. 100 years worth of road.
SPEAKER_03:Ridiculous. You're on the road. You're in the first quarter. You're gonna have to bowl a load of times more.
SPEAKER_00:Right. Kick, get the points. Take the take the points. It's just incre I mean, unless your kicker is dead or he missed the team bus or you left him back in San Francisco, whatever it is, kick the field goal. My God. I mean, you you just can't. I mean, I understand some guys like to go for it in certain situations. You want to, you know, you know that you're the a heavy dog, let's say, and you're trying to inspire your football team, and you you have faith in them, and you want to, you know, you believe in them, and you know if you deliver that punch that it's gonna give you some momentum and put the other team on its heels. That's not happening when you do it from, you know, if you're outside the five-yard line, that ain't happening. I want to say it was the first series.
SPEAKER_03:First or second series. First or second series, and you're on your own 32 or 35 or something like that. The other team's like, no problem, I'll take the ball here.
SPEAKER_00:Go ahead. I just you know, maybe it's that they don't have faith in their kickers. I don't know. I I just and then and that's another thing. What do you think the kicker's thinking? He's got to be thinking, I'm I need to go in and make this field goal, and then they don't use him. That's got to put it something in his head. Man, I would have made that from 32. Uh that's that's a chimney. Then he comes out later and and misses one, you wonder why.
SPEAKER_03:So Rams and Carolina, that was the first game. Second game, Bears. Bears in Green Bay, Bears at home, right? There were Soldier Field.
SPEAKER_00:Bears at home. Game was actually closer than I thought it would be, to be honest with you. Absolutely. I thought the Bears would be a little bit more well prepared for that, but credit where credit is due. LaFleur seemed to have things going right until it until they didn't go right, if that makes any sense. But that was another one. Wasn't there a miss field goal in that game? Or miss extra point? Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Something like that, right? So the rumor is with Green Bay that the coach is going in to talk to the owner.
SPEAKER_00:They're gonna evaluate for sure, no doubt.
SPEAKER_03:Right. He has one year left in his contract, and you know, it's hard for a coach with one year left. So excuse me.
SPEAKER_00:You're either getting an extension or you're getting fired.
SPEAKER_03:Right. So the thought is that they're gonna bring him in for an extension, and that conversation's only going well if he agrees to get rid of all the other coaches. And if he doesn't agree to do that, then they were gonna let him go. And that's what I heard with.
SPEAKER_00:That's kind of a petty way for ownership to handle firing somebody. Just fire him. It's time to move on. The problem is, you know, they they seemingly never have foresight when it comes to, all right, this is what we have here. We don't like it, we gotta fire this guy. Okay, who are we getting? It's something, it's it's a business, right? You always have to be looking down the road to see what's available. And in this case, they might be saying to themselves, well, hold on, we still have a good coach. He just can't get over the hump. He's only been there for what's he been there, for five seasons? Four seasons? I don't think he's a bad coach. Some guys are just better uh team coordinators than they are as head coaches, they're in-game coaches. Uh, you know, if they fired him, I wouldn't I wouldn't be surprised. I know that some of the fans were griping, which is unusual for Green Bay. Usually they're they're pretty tolerant.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_00:But in this case, it seems like they feel like, you know, maybe he's not gonna get over the hump. And that's the world we live in too, where it's win now and win at all costs, and you know, the grass is greener on the other side. Who can we get? And with somebody like Harbaugh available, they're gonna want to bring him in for an interview. And others. And others. And others, yeah. So I, you know, I I just don't know who's on that coaching list anymore because it's it seems like they're they're circulating through the same guys all the time. And it's it, there's never a clear path to someone unless they have experience already. So I don't know who where Green Bay's gonna look and if you know if anybody's gonna be available that's not available yet, because we talked about that, how many guys are coaching in these playoffs that are not gonna have jobs next year. I felt I was actually not shocked, but I I thought the Jaguars would win that game and that that would have gotten McDermott fired, but now obviously they won, so that's that's not gonna happen. And Buffalo now is, you know, Buffalo, um, Buffalo is kind of in the driver's seat here. You know, they're they're the most experienced team in the AFC playoffs. So it'll be interesting to see after tonight's game, you know. I I I think the Steelers are gonna get whacked tonight, but you never know. You know, I thought differently before that. And the Texans, I think, are the better team, but the Steelers are the home team. So we'll see what happens.
SPEAKER_03:So the I mean, listen, number one defense. Um, the Texans are number one defense in the league. They got a friend of the game.
SPEAKER_00:They're gonna be coming after Aaron Rodgers all night.
SPEAKER_03:Big time.
SPEAKER_00:So they're gonna come up with with stuff to, you know, I can't imagine they wouldn't.
SPEAKER_03:I think Aaron still has one or two games left in him, and of laying it all on the line without getting hurt.
SPEAKER_02:Let's hope. That's fair.
SPEAKER_03:You have a brilliant coach, and you have one of the best quarterbacks that ever lived, and he seems to be on his game with his arm. Though maybe he's not as mobile as he used to be. He's on with his arm, and this is it. You gotta think that this could be it for him.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. I mean, they can protect him. I mean, they have two pretty decent sized running backs, and they have three huge tight ends that all can block. They spread it around when they have to. They're gonna get Metcalf back, obviously, so that's gonna make a huge impact for Rodgers to have that extra weapon, somebody who, I mean, that guy's huge himself. So, you know, it's gonna be Pittsburgh is gonna do what they did. They're gonna circle the wagons, run the football, ground and pound, short passing game, and then take their shots here and there downfield when Rodgins it's open. And that relationship with the quarterback and the coach will help make that offense go. Whereas it's not robotic. So, you know, Tomlin, as we know, is you know, he's a good coach, and he's gonna have something up his sleeve. But I expect the Texans to keep doing what they're doing and surprising everybody.
SPEAKER_03:I heard an interesting comparison to Tomlin and Harborough. You know, we had that game where, you know, the field goal decided it, and it was interesting because they were saying, and it's absolutely true from my point of view, the difference between Tomlin and Harborough, the fans didn't want to fire. Right now it's a field goal. Yeah, but the fans didn't want to fire Harborough. They really weren't out there screaming, but the players did. The players were unhappy. For whatever reason, he'd lost control of that locker room.
SPEAKER_00:I think it's because they don't have leadership in the locker room from the players. I agree.
SPEAKER_03:I think that because of the comes from Lamar Jackson. The corner book. Yeah, yeah. I don't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't take him anywhere. I know he's one of the best that ever lived. I mean, I I don't really go for it.
SPEAKER_00:So let's I think if you have you have Ray Lewis in that locker room, Harbaugh is still the coach.
SPEAKER_03:I think when you have Ray Lewis in the locker room, I mean, you do whatever he tells you. Okay? That's right. That's right. But with Tomlin, you have a team that believes in him. Maybe the fans have lost faith in him, but the ownership hasn't.
SPEAKER_00:I know the fan base is frustrated with Tomlin. You hear it on the radio all the time. Who cares? But yeah, because you had, I mean, any other team would like you think Jet fans are gonna complain if they hire Tomlin tomorrow? They got with what he's done, would they be complaining about going to the playoffs every year and never having a losing record? I mean, it's it's pretty incredible. It doesn't, you know, you have to be a good coach to accomplish that. And he's had so much talent come in and out. It's not like they're just loaded every year. They're not. They weren't loaded this year. They they went out and made a lot of moves via free agency to bring guys in to try and win this year. And, you know, I don't know that they've shown their best football yet, but could be ahead of them. I wouldn't, I'm not doubting Tomlin, of course, but he's who knows where we'd be if if the Ravens had made that field goal last week. Maybe they have a conversation and he's on his way out.
SPEAKER_03:So it's hard, it's hard to know. I think that you know that we have we've had some great playoff games this this time.
SPEAKER_00:I'm still waiting for the for the shoe to drop with the Chiefs and Kelsey and Andy Reid and where this is headed because that I think is is a pretty interesting story if it unfolds the way you think it will.
SPEAKER_03:Have you heard anything about Miami where they're going for a coach? Because I heard something, but I don't know how true it was.
SPEAKER_00:They said they were gonna include the head coach in the discussion. But I the only thing I heard was that Miami is gonna do what the Jets did, and they're gonna hire another outside third-party organization to give them suggestions. And here's my here's my right now, you have what, seven teams looking for a head coach, or maybe eight teams looking for a head coach, but they're all gonna hire the same one or two, maybe three companies to help them find a head coach. So if you're Mike Tannenbaum and you work for that company, and the Jets come and they're like, Oh, we we need you to pick our next GM to help us find the coach, and he says, Here, take this guy. When the dolphins come knocking on the door, what is he gonna say to them? Now, you don't want this guy, he's not for you. He's not the best guy for you. If you're the Jets, you have to say, Well, wait a minute, why is he good for us and no good for them?
SPEAKER_03:So I heard, I heard that within their group of interviews they're looking to do, that they slipped Belichick's name in there to Miami.
SPEAKER_00:The only thing that leads me to believe that there's a shred of truth to that would be his relationship with Sabin from when Saban was there for two years before he took the Alabama job. If Saban, but they were much younger then, vastly younger. You're talking about 20 years ago, right? At least, right. Belichick's at the end. Okay, he's in a set. I I could see him coming back to the NFL to general manage. Maybe he coaches for a year or two and moves up. Yeah, maybe that that's what it is, but that's what they need. They're a disaster. They they are a disaster. And the the reason they're a disaster is because of their ownership group. Well, come on.
SPEAKER_03:Their ownership group doesn't know what they're doing. Everybody that listens to us does the same thing, and they're not talking about that again, are they? Right. The ownership, the ownership, the ownership ain't changing.
SPEAKER_00:You know, that that's why this league, I have to laugh when they talk about expansion and going to 20 games and all it's it's it's inexcusable to operate this way when you have a pro franchise. So that's why teams like this have to go to a third party. I I just it just it I listen. I think you and I could probably start our own company and find four or five guys that would be suitable enough to be GMs in the NFL.
SPEAKER_03:I agree, because we can find that. But let's think about it for a second, though. But if if he becomes the coach, So he coaches one year. He drafts some really good players. He works on that team. And then he brings in a coach to succeed him. He moves up the lane. And even if he just that expertise to bring draft picks and players to play, if you look at he also has a great ability of getting players to renegotiate the contract so we can operate under the salary cap. Well, he's very good at that.
SPEAKER_00:He had the most selfless quarterback of all time in that regard.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, well.
SPEAKER_00:But to be fair, there is history here where it's been done before. When Mike Holmgren left Seattle, uh Green Bay, sorry, coached in Seattle for a couple of years and then moved up to the GM spot. He set that entire franchise on a whole new course. And they're still relevant today. And they get things right. And the reason why is because when he went there, he straightened all of that out for them. So I don't think they had bad ownership prior to that. They they made the right move. They brought in a football guy. They did what you're supposed to do. But Miami doesn't have the wherewithal within their ownership group to make that decision. And that they have to go outside of that to make that decision is a huge red flag. So Belichick would be somebody that I think would follow that Mike Holmgren path, coaching, general managing, and setting up the franchise. But with that ownership group, I don't know if that works for them.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_00:Because he's going to want full autonomy.
SPEAKER_03:But his bargaining power has diminished exponentially. He's going to jump at any chip he could get to get him out of the hell that he's in.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, listen, he should have a something-year-old girlfriend. He's not too far.
SPEAKER_03:Atlanta should have taken him. They'd have been much better off than I don't know why they didn't.
SPEAKER_00:And maybe, hey, listen, they they might be looking at themselves saying, you know what? We should have done that. Let's make the let's write the ship.
SPEAKER_03:Well, let's not forget who the president, the new president of football operations is there now is Matt Ryan. They just hired him to take over football operations. So I saw an interview with him, and he was very coy about how he answered questions. But smart guy. He was a good quarterback. You know, he was a good one.
SPEAKER_00:Should have won a Super Bowl.
SPEAKER_03:Should have won a Super Bowl, except for the coach, Tom Brady and Belichick.
SPEAKER_00:So well, it was his own coach. It was his own coach that lost that game.
SPEAKER_03:Absolutely.
SPEAKER_00:Take the points. Run the football, take the points. Game's over.
SPEAKER_03:People are brain damaged. But anyway, so let's try to get through the rest of these games. We've gotten sidetracked a hundred times. And that is, okay, so the Patriots, listen, I expected them with the Chargers. Chargers gave him a good run for the money. Chargers were hurt.
SPEAKER_00:And I'm not making excuses. But they didn't, they couldn't, they couldn't keep Justin Herbert on his feet. He got whacked seven times.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, but uh on the on the listen. The coach from New England, I forget his name, the uh Rabel. Rabel, he he's good. Nope. Well-prepared coach. And he's got good players, unless, you know, the offense really wasn't firing on all cylinders in the beginning, but they got it together to win the game.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, because they don't ask their quarterback to do anything out of the ordinary or go out of his way to do something spectacular. They circle the wagons and they they do what makes them successful. They do what they do best, and they don't try to go outside of that unless they're taking a shot or they have to. So they're very much this year, they've seen like they've been in control, even when they were losing, they've been in control of these games for the most part the entire time. So why? Because they don't make bad decisions.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I agree. And no, I said a fourth down. I said I said right.
SPEAKER_00:Or they take the field goal. They're not they're not making terrible decisions or drastic decisions or rash decisions. They're just very methodical and go about their business, they handle business, and they move forward. Are they beatable? Absolutely, they're beatable. Are they world beaters? No. But when you do things right consistently, you're hard to beat.
SPEAKER_03:So, okay. So here we are. So we have so the final game we haven't talked about is Buffalo and Jacksonville.
SPEAKER_02:Alan is the is the whole team.
SPEAKER_03:He just I mean what to say. First of all, he's a big boy. Monster.
SPEAKER_00:He's so tall. He's monster, he's tough, he's hurt. When you watch him play, you have to think back to that draft and wonder what anyone was thinking, not taking him first overall. Even by default, which is what I my used back then to analyze those quarterbacks, how I got down to that pick. But the interview with Tom Brady about having quarterbacks that are six, five, this shows you it makes a difference. He's not hiding behind his offensive line on the tush push. He's pushing them down the field.
SPEAKER_03:That was ridiculous. He carried those defensive players. You have to couple yards, three yards, four yards into the end of the room.
SPEAKER_00:They almost, I mean, they called it a touchdown on the field. That was incredible. And then they let him score, which I understand. You know, and Trevor Lawrence threw a good pass, hit the guy right in the hands, and that was it. It was over. You have to feel for Jacksonville because they played well all season. I know they had a couple of injuries, but they overcame those injuries and looked even better than they did before the injuries.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I thought they I thought they looked good. They just couldn't, they they didn't have that player went above and beyond. And that, I mean, he really at the end of these games that they win, he picks the whole team up on their shoulders and they love him for it. They'll do anything.
SPEAKER_00:Well, they were another one that, you know, Jacksonville was another one that, you know, didn't take the points. Right? They they had a after we saw it all day. We we saw it with them too. Literally, you know, was it four? I'm trying to remember the play, but they they're guilty of it too. You know, it was fourth and three. Um on the I'm sorry. It was fourth and three on the on the on the on the Bills 20. And you're up 7-3. Take the points. Right. Take the points. You know, that's on the coach. You know, I don't blame the player, but these young coaches think, you know, that for whatever reason, again, I I'm convinced that it's analytics, that they're looking at a sheet on a screen somewhere telling them, no, no, no, you should go for it on this play. Take the points.
SPEAKER_03:I agree. I mean, I contrast.
SPEAKER_00:Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson should have lost the game also yesterday because Chicago did the same thing, right? It was just you have to take the points. They're so valuable. I mean, Parcells, there's a whole thing on Parcells in the in that documentary of his coaching tree, his coaching legacy. What is it? Uh one of those things that they do, those specials they do on ESPN. They talk about Parcel, football life. And one of the things they talk about, and they spend a few good minutes on it, talking about why did you do this? Take the points. It's one of his you know philosophical points. You're on the road, you're in a playoff game, you're in a hostile environment, whatever it is. Don't leave points on the field. Take the points. You have to. It's so deflating to a team sometimes when even if it's just a field goal for three points, you gotta take the points. You could never take points off the board. You can't do that.
SPEAKER_03:Especially in the beginning of games and they routinely.
SPEAKER_00:It matters so much. It really does. You know, I I know that I'm I'm a proponent of going for it late in games to win the game, especially if you're a dog. You know, I I always say never go for two unless it's to win the game, never go for two unless you have to. It drives me nuts when it's the first quarter and they're going for two. And just as much, it it it's it's mind-boggling to me in in times, especially you're home. You're not on the road. Take the points. Don't give the points away. You're playing a good team. You need those points, they're gonna matter.
SPEAKER_03:I agree.
SPEAKER_00:So, lesson learned for that coach, you know, because I do think he's a good coach. I know he got support from one of the members of the media after the game saying, you know, you did a good job this season. Keep your head up, and we look forward to what's to come. And hopefully he learns that lesson and and doesn't make that mistake again.
SPEAKER_03:Well, things change all the time. So I think there is. I think, you know, the these games have been different than they usually are. They really have been. And maybe you're right. Maybe it's from analytics that people are doing things that we scratch our heads about. The playoffs are different than the regular season. The playoffs are full bore, 100% preparation, know your things, know your games. I mean, this week you're going against teams that had you may be going against teams that had an extra week of rest. And the best teams had an extra week of rest.
SPEAKER_00:The two best teams.
SPEAKER_03:So I mean, and you know, you're going into mile high. So I'd have my players on a plane there already. And you're and you're a day short. I think, I think, I think somebody's too playing on a Saturday game where they played Sunday or Sunday night.
SPEAKER_00:Uh the Broncos play Saturday on the 17th. And the Patriots play on the 18th, Sunday.
SPEAKER_02:And then Seattle's also on Saturday. Right.
SPEAKER_03:So the and you get another 40 last game of the season matchup, which is 49ers and Seahawks. That was the last game of the season. The Seahawks destroyed the 49ers, and I'm sure both both teams remember that. So you have the Bills that played late in the day on Saturday, and they're beat up, and they're going into the Broncos. So, I mean, late in the day on Sunday yesterday, and they're going to the Broncos. So the Rams and Bears. And then what am I missing?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I think I think the I think the Bills were probably counting on going abr to Denver because I don't I don't think anybody had the Chargers really beating the Patriots.
SPEAKER_03:You know, if Buffalo can beat Denver at home, they can win the Super Bowl.
SPEAKER_00:Yes. I don't think they will, but I agree with you. And um It's a big if. Denver's a big if. Denver's good.
SPEAKER_03:And the other the other thing is, is if Denver could beat the Bills, they could be going to the Super Bowl too.
SPEAKER_00:That is true. And they late season hiccup, I guess, by the Patriots gave them the one seed. So that would be, you know, it'll be interesting to see how that plays out. No doubt about it. I think, you know, we'll see. Right now the Texans are only hope for a non uh usual suspect to get to the Super Bowl from the AFC. But uh I guess that wouldn't have mattered because I guess if the Jaguars had won, it would be di we they'd play each other anyway. So but interesting. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out for sure. No doubt about it.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_02:So sorry, they're texting me about my hearing, and it's not going forward tomorrow. Yeah. I mean I mean I I think there's a lot of things. So but when you look at the NFC Um So I picked the Rams to go to the Super Bowl and I picked them to beat the Bears in the in the NFC championship game.
SPEAKER_00:But the way the seating broke down, it that's not gonna happen. They're playing each other this week, so uh you're gonna get two two good football games here.
SPEAKER_02:Anything gonna happen. Right. So the Rams.
SPEAKER_00:Uh the Rams special teams is what is what really kind of worries me. And I don't I don't know what the weather's gonna be like there. I don't think that really affects the Rams. I think they'll be okay.
SPEAKER_03:So you're gonna see Bears and Seahawks in the championship game.
unknown:Right.
SPEAKER_00:Then the Seahawks are going to the Super Bowl, and we have to be on suicide watch for Jets fans.
SPEAKER_03:That's okay. I am sure that he, you know, as they do those long interviews with quarterbacks prior to prior to the Super Bowl, they do them like the week before, that they're gonna say, Well, how do you think Jet fans feel that you're here?
SPEAKER_00:He's probably got his stock answer for that.
SPEAKER_03:And he's gonna say, you know, the fans were always great, you know, they always supported me when I was there. He won't disparage the I'm sorry, you know. He may rip the ownership a little bit.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I would imagine he wouldn't want to create any sort of focus to take away from them being in the Super Bowl if that's the case. Maybe.
SPEAKER_03:Maybe, you know, but he may want to distract from everyone getting a hard time and concentrate all the media on him. So you never know. He may sound that you know you know.
SPEAKER_00:He would be oblivious to the pressure then if he did that.
SPEAKER_03:So you know what I you know, I'm constantly the Emperor's new clothes on Woody. I mean, he really just walks around like he doesn't know he's naked. But meanwhile, he's taking all the money to the bank. So that on that note, something else you want to talk about? Are we gonna cut a little short today, or what do you think?
SPEAKER_00:I had, you know, I know we were talking about the draft last week, you know, where these quarterbacks fall and where they're coming out in this draft. You know, someone is going to go to a terrible franchise, one way or the other, with that first end-on maybe second pick.
SPEAKER_03:And don't you think the reason that Tom is sitting out there running the show is because he doesn't want the number one pick to say, I'm not going to the Raiders. So you're bad.
SPEAKER_00:I don't see how they don't pick Mendoza based on what Brady has said about quarterbacks and their importance and size and fit and all that stuff.
SPEAKER_03:Mendoza is a machine.
SPEAKER_00:Listen, he's he's he's playing well in their system. And I'm not knocking him. I'm not saying that he can't make it the next level. I know there's a lot of criticism on him. This week they were talking about him being a fifth rounder at best, which blows my mind. I don't see how that's possible. He's gonna be number one pick. He's gonna be number one. I I unless they take a defensive guy or some other player, you know, comes out of this championship game looking like an all-world player or somebody has uh an extremely impressive combine. I just don't see him not being the number one pick. Um that being said, if you if you look at the last 15, 20 years, I remember Ben Rothesberger falling in that draft. And it was it was the best thing that could have happened to him because he went into a situation where he he ended up on a good team, uh playing for a good franchise, a great owner, having that coach. I mean, he won 15 games as a rookie. So sometimes it's well every time. Where you go in the draft really shouldn't matter in terms of position, one, two, three, four. Where you go, what franchise you end up is ultimately what's gonna make or break you. So, you know, with Brady there and playing in Vegas, you know, it's kind of an interesting dynamic because we really haven't seen, we don't have long-term history of the Vegas Raiders, right? It's entirely different. So they're gonna get, you know, they're gonna get a new head coach, and they're gonna pair that coach with this quarterback, and you hope it works if you're them.
SPEAKER_03:I think, you know what?
SPEAKER_00:I think Imagine being the guy who gets taken number two.
SPEAKER_03:Where'd she go?
SPEAKER_00:The Jets. I mean, unless the Jets have a plan, you know, for that pick in terms of, hey, you know what, we can't just take a quarterback. I mean, we haven't seen the combine yet, so we don't really know. But if the Jets decide that any one of these other quarterbacks isn't worth the two, the two, and they want to pick a defensive player or trade that number two and get even more picks, which I generally tend to go that route. I know they need a quarterback, but the Jets aren't in a position to get this wrong. They can't just take a quarterback for the sake of taking a quarterback. And if Mendoza's not there, they're in the same position they were with Zach Wilson. And that's not a knock on any of these other quarterbacks. It's just that no one has risen above that level to say, I'm the guy. And there's question marks about all of them. Are they tall enough? Did they have the arm strength? Can they run? Can they handle this offense? Can they read a defense? That's for them to work out, you know, in their in their draft analysis of these players. But I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:If they take a quarterback, it's another three years and minimum, it's another three years in the hole. If they get it wrong. I don't know what to say.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, I I think you gotta know who your coach is if you're gonna draft a really good player like that.
SPEAKER_00:I know the Falcons hired a search firm also. Right. You know what I heard about Miami? I was I was wrong. It was the Falcons that that are hiring the search firm.
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_00:Miami is looking, I think, I think they're gonna go the route of a searching firm, but there was rumblings of Troy Aikman being brought in to help them find a general manager.
SPEAKER_02:I heard that too.
SPEAKER_00:Not that I wouldn't trust Troy Aikman to do that. I don't know what his connection is with Miami. If you're bringing in Troy Aikman to help you make a decision, my general gut feeling is that there's already somebody in mind that you want to kick the tires on, and that Troy thinks would be a good fit there. Because he is a pretty decent analyst and he does know these teams and franchises, and he has relationships with general managers and owners. I think there's There's some smoke there. But ultimately, you know, it was whatever comes out of these coaching decisions or general manager decisions, these guys are still looking. You know, I who knows. You know, how do you how if you're if I'm hiring a firm and they you know, how do you how do you sell a team on a guy when you have to sell the best guy to four or five teams? It just boggles my mind that they don't have these these franchises don't have anybody on the in on the inside in their little group of CEOs, presidents, and people of operations to make that decision.
SPEAKER_03:I agree. Yeah, I don't know. It seems to be maybe they do it just to cover the Rooney rule. That necessarily they don't interview anybody.
SPEAKER_00:That well, that's that's a whole nother yeah. I mean, that's maybe they do it to say US coaches in that loop.
SPEAKER_03:We we talk to all these people and they cover it. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00:I'll tell you what what we haven't heard that's died down is the talk about John Gruden returning to the NFL. It went from people wanting him to come coach the Giants to I haven't heard a whisper about him in weeks.
SPEAKER_03:Well, too many coaches became available. But I think if any goes anywhere, he's gonna go to college.
SPEAKER_02:Gruden? Interesting. Interesting for sure.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, I mean it has to be the perfect place for him and a place they're gonna accept him, and it'll probably be in the south, you know, that kind of team. That's doesn't really care what he thought. There's lots of them out there, right? So I don't know. We'll see what happens. I think that's about all.
SPEAKER_00:Did you think that that was pass interference on the last play of the Miami Old Miss game?
SPEAKER_03:I don't think how you could say it wasn't. That was absolutely pass interference, and the ball should have been on the goal line, right?
SPEAKER_00:Um, and I'm not sure about when it happens in the end zone because it's not a spot foul in college. I don't know if that would have given them 15 yards in a first down, or if because it happened in the end zone, I think you'd be right. You get it at the one, maybe.
SPEAKER_03:So then it leads to the final play of the game being on the one-yard line, everybody just banging their heads into each other would have been great.
SPEAKER_00:So yeah, they uh quote unquote let him play on that one. Right. But he clearly grabbed a handful of jersey. The announcers tried to say that it was not a catchable ball, but I don't see how you could say that he got a hand on it. You know, but not that I was looking for it one way or the other. I mean, it for pass interference call or non-call to decide a game like that is unfortunate because it's diminishes how they got to that point. But Ole Miss's got to be, you know, reeling from that, I'm sure. But you know, hats off to them. They played a hell of a playoff. Their coach had them playing likes out, the quarterback played great. You know, I thought that was a good throw. You know, Miami defense really had no answer.
SPEAKER_03:You know I wanted you know I wanted them like you wanted them to play for the national championships. So you could you could tell the old coach to stick it.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Yeah. But but also for the kids. I mean, they deserved it. They played their game. I'm an opponent of the playoff itself, but when it comes to the games and watching these kids play, you know, I'm I you know, I want to see fair play, I want to see good games, and they deserve to win that game every every bit of as Miami did.
SPEAKER_03:So next week we have a lot to talk about. We're gonna, you know, have the next layer of games. We'll be going into the championship games, and we're gonna have that night, it's gonna be the NCAA championship game. Monday night. And then we could start talking about the draft, and we could start talking about where everything goes and coaches and basketball and hockey.
SPEAKER_00:I'm working on that. I'm looking to we'll get we'll get uh our basketball guy in for sure. Okay. He's traveling right now, he's gonna be traveling for a couple of weeks. Um still might be able to join us while he's on the road.
SPEAKER_03:I have to say that, you know, watching the winter classic, and I don't know if I mentioned it last month, last week. I mean, the winter classic.
SPEAKER_02:Sorry, I don't understand.
SPEAKER_03:How's my phone? I'm sure my phone doesn't think I understand at all. So the winter classic takes place, you know, New Year's Day or whatever it was, after New Year's. I think it was Friday after New Year's, Saturday after New Year's, and they play it in Miami? How is that a winter's classic? Because you're on ice? It's bizarre.
SPEAKER_00:I forgot there was a reason they didn't they move that game to Miami for some reason? They wanted to play that game in New York, but they couldn't. Something was going on.
SPEAKER_03:You turn it on. If you didn't watch the Rangers all year, and you watched them play then against Florida, you said to yourself, Wow, this team is good.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. And it's it that's an easy game to sell. An outdoor hockey game. It looks great on TV, a lot of action, fun environment.
SPEAKER_03:And they wonder if they're gonna build outdoor arenas for that. Fi 55 degrees, it's pretty cold here. I'm like, guys, it's it's 18 here. Stick it.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Enjoy your 55 degrees. Yeah. So lost.
SPEAKER_03:I think unless you have anything else, we'll end it there for tonight.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, that's that I'm good. I'm good.
SPEAKER_03:I look forward to the game tonight. I'm sorry we can't watch it together. I know you have other stuff. Yeah, I have a meeting. But but I have to say, I I you know, it's hard for me to pick a winner because I want both teams to win. But I guess push comes to shove. I'd like to see the Texans, you know, start making their way to playing later into the playoffs.
SPEAKER_02:I agree. And at that. And at that, we'll leave it there.
SPEAKER_03:Thank you, everybody. Have a good night. And there we go. Take care, Steve.