From Empty Lot To Dream Home: How True Custom Building Works

A blank lot, an aging ranch, and a head full of ideas—where do you start without blowing the budget or your sanity? We sat down with Simon Amesbury from Alair Homes to map a path from “someday” to a keys-in-hand custom home that fits the way you actually live in Tampa Bay. No fluff, no guesswork—just a clear process that ties your vision to realistic numbers and a timeline you can track.

We dig into the first decisions that matter: understanding zoning, setbacks, and FEMA rules; crafting a concept design that reflects your style and the site; and building a detailed estimate before you touch construction. Simon explains why true custom isn’t four cabinet choices, it’s informed freedom—making selections with guidance so each choice works with code, climate, and the trades who install it. You’ll hear how open-book software keeps schedules, invoices, selections, and photos at your fingertips, and why the right subcontractors for bespoke details are different from production crews built for repetition.

If you’re weighing remodel versus teardown, we talk through the Tampa Bay realities. Many block homes from the 60s and 70s are structurally sound and worth reimagining—sometimes with a second story—rather than lifting old structures or moving away from the neighborhood you love. For buyers and agents, we cover using renderings to help people visualize what fits a lot within height limits, setbacks, and impervious area rules. And for sellers, that vision can unlock better marketing and stronger offers.

By the end, you’ll know how to protect your budget, reduce stress, and keep design integrity from plan to punch list. Ready to turn your ideas into a buildable, beautiful plan? Follow the show, share this episode with a friend who’s dreaming about a custom home or remodel, and leave a review to tell us what you want to hear next.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:05

Hi everybody, and welcome to Snapshot Tampa Bay with Candace and Lisa. Get ready to dive into the exciting and colorful world of the greater Tampa Bay area. Whether you're sorting out a military mood, checking out the senior living scene, or just on the hunt for the coolest local spots, let's get started and have some fun.

SPEAKER_03 0:28

Hello everyone, this is Candace, and I am here today with Lisa and David. Hi, Lisa. Hey. Hello, David. Hi Candace. How's everyone doing today?

Today’s Focus: Custom Builds

SPEAKER_02 0:37

You know what? I'm doing fantastic, but it's a little bit, you know, it's early in the morning. I'm great in the mornings. Catch me at 9 30 at night, you know. I know that too well. Yeah. A little bit too well. Yeah. Love the mornings.

SPEAKER_03 0:50

Well, we're excited to spend some time with you today and we're discussing custom builds. And I'm going to let Lisa begin this conversation.

Meet Simon From Alair Homes

SPEAKER_02 0:58

Well, yeah, I'm so excited about this because custom builds, you know, for a lot of people, they're scary, but we want to break a little bit down. And within doing that, we have Simon from Alaire Homes here. Um, this is, you know, somebody who I've worked with very closely. He does beautiful quality products, not just home builds from the ground up, but also remodels. Um, and I've seen evidence of both of those things in the Tampa Bay area. So, so Simon, welcome. We're so happy that you're here.

SPEAKER_00 1:33

Thank you. Thank you for having me.

Vision, Budget, And Process

SPEAKER_02 1:35

Yeah, everybody, you hear his accent. I I keep him around because I like to listen to how he talks. But um, so what we want to talk about today is the thing for for regular people, they can't necessarily visualize. They might be looking for this unicorn of a home that they're just not finding because it's somebody else's home. So, do but doing a custom build might be really scary for them. So, we want to talk about the process with you today. We want to talk about, hey, um, I like this a lot because I like this area. Where do I go now? What the process is. So, first off, if somebody likes a certain area, um, what tell us like in stages, what's the first thing that they're gonna do? They see a lot, where are we going from there?

Concept Design And Estimating

SPEAKER_00 2:20

Yeah, so like you said, we do custom builds and we do remodels as well. So there's two different um types of client that come into us, but every client that comes into us has a vision. And the challenge is reaching that vision. Um, so we start off, we're very, very process driven because if we have process driven, and we have a hundred offices across North America, a lot of experience. So that process is you know being developed to be able to answer all those questions at every step along the way, um, and alleviate any of the risks, alleviate any of the concerns that the client may have as soon as we can. You can't answer everything at day one. So most clients come to us with the piece of land, they know what they want, they've not been able to find it on the market out there, they've got this vision. What is the next step? What do they do? So we we have a lot of uh meetings where we bring in architects, engineers, we're starting off with a concept design initially. Um, we very much focus on the client's budget. Custom doesn't necessarily mean really expensive.

SPEAKER_02 3:32

That's one thing I was gonna ask you because a lot of people think, okay, if I'm gonna build a home and I'm gonna build it custom, it's really gonna cost me a million dollars.

Financing, Engineering, And Permits

Bidding And The Right Subcontractors

SPEAKER_00 3:43

Absolutely. And and that is a um uh misconception out there that you know, custom is very specific. It's not necessarily um, it's not necessarily the McMansion on the water. We have a lot of the you know, quite a diverse client base. Um and uh you're you're trying, you're taking their budget and making sure that their vision is matching their budget. And and initially, nine times out of ten, they're miles apart, and you have to lead them through this path to be able to marry the two together before you get into construction. No one wants to enter into construction uh based on an estimate, no one wants to enter into construction, remodel or new build based on allowances. It's just a recipe for disaster. So you've got to answer all the questions. The first step to doing that is creating this custom this uh concept design for them, something that meets their vision as close as you can, and then you go into doing an estimate from there. The estimate will identify if it is outside their budget, and therefore we we've only got one step to backtrack to develop that concept design to get it to their budget as close as we can to their budget. From there, then the client typically goes and talks to a bank, they talk to a funding agency about um how they're going to uh pay for this this product, this renovation, whatever it is. Um then we'll revisit it, we'll come back. So hopefully the the bank and themselves they can get the funds together for that budget, for that concept design. If they can, then we move into structural engineering, detailed designs, uh, permitting, etc. And then we start to bid the project out to the subcontractors that we're going to use. Our role is really as a trusted advisor. So we're trying to pull all those people together, get the best price we can from the right contractors, subcontractors. We're licensed contractors ourselves, uh, the best subcontractors for their project. So, for instance, you don't want to use a subcontract in this building, production homes, to frame your customer. Because a production home is a cookie cutter, they've done it hundreds of times. This is very specific. It's got different structural, um, uh different structural elements to it. It's got often we're fabricating new um structural supports that have never been used before. So you need that guy who's experienced in in working with us for that. And my project managers obviously are there alongside them to work out all these nuances before construction, not during construction. That's too late.

Planning To Reduce Stress

SPEAKER_02 6:34

Right. I've seen your spreadsheets because uh I have a friend who's doing a project with you, having a custom home built, and you literally know by the week exactly when things are going to happen. His spreadsheet is unbelievable.

SPEAKER_04 6:48

Yeah, we we have something you would like to do.

SPEAKER_02 6:51

David blah blah David's eyes just burns up. It just stars when, oh my god, a spreadsheet.

Open-Book Management And Software

SPEAKER_00 6:58

So going back to your question about what a client does, well, one of the biggest uh challenges we have is answering all the questions before they become uh a worry of concern for that client. Because if if it becomes a worry of concern for that client, it percolates and it becomes this volcano. So yeah, and and to become stress. It's probably the biggest investment these clients have ever made, right? So they are they have all these concerns, and we've got to we want to hold their hand, we want to reassure them, we want to make sure that this process is set up, they can see every step along the way, they can always stop. If you've got a good process, we're doing many commitments along the way, then they can stop at any time. Um, and uh you you're we want rating fans. That's that's our aim. We want rating fans. So and you you know they could be with us for two years. Everyone goes through different emotional um family matters and two years.

SPEAKER_03 8:05

That was my question for you, is like basically how long can the process take to well.

Timelines And Permitting Realities

SPEAKER_00 8:11

Typically, you're looking at a design and permitting that's six months on a new build. Remodel might be slightly shorter than that, but that's time well spent. So during that six months, in particular while it's in permitting, which is eight to ten weeks, unless you use private inspectors or private um uh plan reviewers and so on, um then we are that's when we are going out to the subcontractors, we're bringing them in, we're talking over the drawings, we're making sure they see uh what needs to be done, but also identifying challenges that are there or ways that we can do it better, or you know, these things, and that takes a lot of time. So, one of the things that clients really like about uh Alaire is we are very, very open book. So we have software um online that our clients and ourselves see they'll get access to every penny that uh that's going into the budget. During construction, they see all the invoices coming in, going out, you know, the schedule's all right there, the photographs, the documentation is all right there online for them. So we have clients that are up in Carolina, up in Toronto, and so on. So they they're bought in, they're part of our team. They're not just oh, here you go, here's the piece of land, go ahead, here's some money, go ahead. No, no, no, no. You're meeting with us on a regular basis. These are your responsibilities. We're holding them accountable, they're holding us accountable.

SPEAKER_03 9:42

So it's more of a team versus just absolutely, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:46

That's great. Which is that vision, right?

SPEAKER_03 9:48

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:48

That vision just doesn't come out on day one.

SPEAKER_03 9:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:51

And it changes. Yeah. So if they're not part of it, if they're not involved, um, if they're not bought into this process, yeah. It just creates more worries and concerns. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:02

Simon, I have a a slightly different question. I the timeline, I understand the process could take 14, 18, two years from showing up with a lot, design, you know, concept, all that to closing.

SPEAKER_02 10:17

Um and that's if you show up to a lot. If you have a house or a structure already there, you have to talk about that demolition of that structure as well.

What “Custom” Really Means

SPEAKER_01 10:24

And if you're talking about, you know, certain contaminants, asbestos, things like that, those are all things that you've got to address as well. But shifting gears a little bit, I think a lot of people are curious. I I wrote this down on my notes. I wrote lowercase custom and then I wrote uppercase and italics custom. Because I think a lot of people, one, for me, just trying to pick new uh hardware for the kitchen cabinets can be overwhelming with the amount of choice. And so I think a lot of quote-unquote custom home builders will show up and say, you have these four cabinet choices, or you have these four sets of hardware to choose from, or these elevations, four different elevations, and that's that, and they're calling that custom. But what you bring to the table is the capitalized, italicized, underlined, everything is exactly the choice of the client.

SPEAKER_00 11:19

Exactly, yes. Um, so a lot of our new builds, a lot of our clients will use interior designers. Okay. And they become part of that team. Um, and they are held accountable as much as anyone else because the choice out there is overwhelming. Yeah, infinite. Um, and it's changing all the time. You may pick a flooring today that in six weeks' time is not being produced anymore, and we've got to change, right? And and the type of flooring you pick affects dozens of subcontractors, right? The level of your tread on your stair might have to change. So the frame might be needed just because you've chosen a different flooring for it. So uh that's where we come in, that's where our expertise comes in. If if you imagine trying to do that on your own, you're gonna get caught out, right? I've got 30 years' experience, I still get caught out occasionally. So that's where my project managers are watching these things, you know, and and that's where the meetings come in, that's where the documentation, that's where the online um software comes in because that's what it helps to pull it all together. We have selection sheets that are being filled out, and and one of the ways we can control that is making sure our clients go to the suppliers that we know can work within that process. Okay, that's not limiting them to the choices they have, that's just making sure that we've got some control there because you need some control.

Selections, Suppliers, And Quality Control

SPEAKER_01 12:52

Can you give us a more specific example of what you're talking about?

SPEAKER_00 12:55

Um, yeah, for instance, we're not gonna allow you to go to a trust manufacturer in Alabama, right? We're gonna ask you to go to, or we're gonna look at Tibbs, we're gonna look at Builder's first source, 84 Lamb, or whoever it may be locally, whatever. Um we're gonna ask so that they can go in physically and see the well, but not so much on the trustees, but another example would be cabinetry, right? We're gonna suggest the client goes to these cabinetry manufacturers because we know the quality, we know they can fit within a process, we know they're not overwhelmed, we know they've got the staff. Um, you know, we're auditing all this as time goes on constantly. Um, flooring. You can go to Home Depot and you can buy a tile from Home Depot, but it might be made in China. And when the guy comes to install it, he's gonna cut it and it's gonna chip. Well, that that's not what you're gonna want in your house.

SPEAKER_03 13:51

Not in my custom home.

SPEAKER_00 13:52

Right, not in custom home.

SPEAKER_03 13:53

I spec home from a NAS builder, yes, but not from my custom home.

Code, Products, And Florida Standards

SPEAKER_00 13:57

And we have you know we have codes, we have UL numbers. We and you know, you have to use certain products here in Florida. There aren't you can't just go to Wayfair. You can buy great vanities from Wayfair, but some of the faucets on there are not ripe for Florida. We've not got the right uh numbers or whatever um standards we would have in Florida. So we're guiding the clients, we are allowing them to choose whatever they want, and often they'll choose whatever they want and come back to us with that product, and we'll go, okay, we know let's say it's flooring, we know you want this style, this size, or whatever, but we don't suggest you go with this tile. Let's go with that tile, not a ceramic, go with a porcelain, for example, right? But the same colors and so on. And these are the reasons why.

DIY Pitfalls And Why Guidance Matters

SPEAKER_01 14:47

These are the things that I think people are overwhelmed with even comprehending or thinking about, and to understand that you're kind of guiding them through the process. Again, we talked about takes a lot of the concerns away before they develop into stress. Because I've talked to plenty of people, I've even experienced it myself firsthand, where you've tried to piecemeal certain jobs and come up with the final product, and it doesn't meet your expectation because of X, Y, or Z, because you didn't have somebody there kind of guiding you through that process.

SPEAKER_00 15:21

Yeah, I went to look at a house last week that a gentleman's been building here in Tampa Bay Area. Um, and it he's got to a certain stage and it's overwhelming for him, and he's decided he needs to bring someone in. Um, and you walk through and you identify that he's got uh piping that isn't going to pass code. He's you know he's run the pipes. Most of the building's done really well, really, really good for someone who's never done it before. But then you identify while you got this pipe joining up with this pipe, there's too many joints, too many bends, you can't have three, you've got you can't have more than three connecting together, all these sorts of things. Those are things that I I don't expect a client to know these things. That's our job. That's what we're there for. Uh, to be that trusted. We're not a chuck in the truck.

unknown 16:08

Right.

SPEAKER_00 16:09

I haven't got receipts on my dashboard.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:11

Um, so I'm not the chief.

SPEAKER_02 16:13

Right? It's a great idea. That's right. Well, but another thing to think about too, and what people don't realize. And as an agent, a real estate agent, I've learned a lot about this just by being around you. But when it's time for them to sell their home, if their home is not going to pass code, they're going to have to make those expensive fixes. Yeah. Because a buyer is not going to be able to get a mortgage on a home that does not pass code. Did not pass inspection.

Lifting Homes Versus Building Value

SPEAKER_00 16:44

And it goes into more than that. We were just talking about um the these properties that are being lifted in the Tampa Bay area right now. I we will not do that project for several different reasons. But if you think about it, you're lifting a, let's say, a 60s or 70s house from its foundation to 10 feet in the air, um, and then building, I mean, you know, just think about it. That's not as easy as it sounds. You know, you're putting a house through an earthquake, it's already been through a hurricane. Now you're putting it through an earthquake, several hurricanes, right? And um and you're elevating it, and yes, it's structurally engineered, and yes, it's past permitting and so on, but when you're going to sell it, yeah, it's still a 1960s, 70s house.

SPEAKER_04 17:26

Right.

Fit, Match, And Early Value Checks

SPEAKER_00 17:26

Um, so where's the value in doing that? And a lot of that conversation we have early on with the client is does it make sense? Um, your your custom build to me makes perfect sense because you're you're paying cost to build that thing, you're retaining the value rather than purchasing another property where you're paying someone else for the for the value. So you you we go through these, we have these conversations with clients all the time. You know, does it make sense for you? Because if it's not going to make sense for you, it's not gonna make sense for me. Uh, we need the right fit and match with every client and every project before we go into it. So, yeah, that becomes part of the conversation at the early stages as well. It's part of the process.

SPEAKER_03 18:09

So I want to go back to the vision part because you talk about how you help them bring their vision to life. And as we know as real estate agents, clients have a hard time visioning things. Like they, I mean, they walk into a house and can't stand a paint collar and don't understand, just change the paint and it changes the room. So let's say that Lisa or David or I have a listing that's for land. A lot of people can't envision what a house would look like on that. So talk about your process. If we had a listing and we partner with you on trying to create a vision for that piece of land to give somebody an idea of what it would look like. So talk about that process.

Helping Buyers Visualize On Vacant Land

Renderings, Setbacks, And FEMA Limits

SPEAKER_00 18:47

So um there's there's a there are a lot of restrictions as to what you can build on a piece of land. Um, and you can't just throw you know one of five your five designs that you have in your uh in your file onto that piece of land. You've got to consider female regulations, you've got to consider zoning, you've got to consider height restrictions, you've got to consider um impervious areas, setbacks, uh, you know, whether they want to pull there or not. So we will look at that piece of land and go, okay, so this is a sort of size thing, you know, product that could go on that piece of land, and we'll produce a rendering. Um, and then you can show that rendering. It's not that we're saying to the client, no, you have to build this. We're just giving them an idea that this is the sort of thing that can go on that piece of land. Because a lot of people look at a piece of land. We had this argument in the office the other day. We've got two projects on the water and um uh on the beaches at the moment, and the houses are going up right now, and we were um questioning which piece of land was the biggest. And even as experts, it was probably 50-50 as to who got it right and who got it wrong, and so you have to take account that's because one of them's got bigger setbacks than the other one. So there's only so much usable space there. So we'll produce these renderings, you can put them on the site, you can want a nice board alongside your your realtor sign as well. Um, you can put them onto MLS, and it just gives a client an idea. Okay, I can build something of the size, the shape, the style, uh, that I want to. And then you will go, well, they'd come into our office and we'd sit down with them and say, Well, is this exactly what you want? Or is it you want no, you don't want key west style, you want modern farmhouse?

SPEAKER_02 20:46

Yeah, okay. That's another thing that's great about you guys because you can do all different styles. You don't just set to one style, you take and you visualize the outside, the inside for people because there's so many different styles out there.

SPEAKER_03 21:03

So builders here in the Tampa Bay area do one side. And you see you're seeing it. They're putting they're buying up lots of land and they're just slapping up basically the same home with a slightly different facade on the front.

Remodels, Add-Ons, And Staying Put

SPEAKER_02 21:15

Well, not like I want, yeah, yeah, not like I want a whole bunch of people to steal you, but this is a really good thing for other agents as well, because they can call you if they have a vacant lot that they're going to be listing. They can call you, you can put that sign up for them to help build that, build that base of people looking, and you're more likely to get that price for that lot of land that they're looking for and not be bid down because you have a vision of the house that's going to be coming. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:48

Yeah. To your point about painting, Candace, it's always very hard for people to just they can't see past something.

SPEAKER_03 21:54

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Most people aren't. I'm a very creative visual person. Lisa and I've had this conversation, you are too. I can see past the white wall or the orange wall or whatever's on the wall and what the room could look like with my vision. But most people totally have not.

SPEAKER_01 22:10

Having help though, having somebody to design having a designer, even having a group of realtors that can uh that can sort of help you envision and say, what about this? What if we did that? What if, you know, and that goes with changing wall color, but it also goes with looking at a lot, going, what's gonna work here?

SPEAKER_04 22:28

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:29

Well, it goes further than that. We've had instances where clients have come to us, they've got a piece of land that's got a house on it, um, and they're thinking, oh, we're gonna tear this down and build a brand new one. Um, and perhaps their budget doesn't match that. You know, it's not working with their budget right then. So we look at the we've looked at the existing structure and said, well, this structure's sound. We could strip it. We can start from this base and build you, and we can do a rendering on that as well. Um, you know, change the entrance, add a second story even to it, or not lift it.

Due Diligence And Builder Warranties

SPEAKER_01 23:08

Not lift it, but build up you're seeing that a lot of a lot of South Tampa, especially because there is a lot of there is a lot of opportunity for remodeling. There is some of these homes are are great structurally and they're sound, and they're on a lot that is in either in an X or hasn't flooded, and and and that's a great opportunity for people to stay where they may want to be and not tear down.

SPEAKER_03 23:32

And some of these older homes have nice square footage too, that some newer homes might not necessarily have, like in new builds out outside of the suburbs. And if you want to stay in Tampa and you like your area and you basically like your layout of your house, have a custom builder come in and just gut it and start from the structure of it.

SPEAKER_00 23:53

Yeah, absolutely. These uh you know, we've got a lot of ranches around here, right? A lot of them were built in like where you said it, 60s, 70s um block, and they've gone through a lot of hurricanes. Yeah, so you know what that property is probably very sound, yeah, yeah. So you can use that structure.

SPEAKER_03 24:14

I would take one of those over my new build that I'm in right now.

SPEAKER_00 24:17

Right. Yeah, and that's an alternative to the lift-in as well. Build on top of your existing structure, you know, your living spaces up above the FEMA, yeah.

Trust, Communication, And Emotions

SPEAKER_01 24:26

What you pay for, yeah, yeah. You you know, I I will say I I'm I don't have any builders that I would bad mouth, but buyer beware. You have to do your due diligence and and make sure the price tag may look very, very attractive. However, oh there is who the builder is. There is a reason.

SPEAKER_03 24:44

Yeah, we have this conversation, and I won't say the builder, but there's a builder that does communities in town that has just changed their warranty on structure to one year from 10 year to one year.

SPEAKER_00 24:55

What does that tell you?

SPEAKER_03 24:56

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:57

So there are some legal sides to that that I can go into. I'm not gonna do that.

SPEAKER_04 25:00

That's not really that.

SPEAKER_00 25:01

But yeah, but would you rather engage with someone who gives you an estimate or an allowance that they want once you sign a contract, or someone who's gonna say, No, I'm gonna show you how much it's gonna cost, what you're gonna get before we go into construction.

SPEAKER_03 25:16

Yes, that's what you want.

SPEAKER_00 25:17

That's what I want. Right, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 25:19

So it's the relationship too. In in there's the it's communication and relationship, and because that's a sign of respect. Respect for your client, client respect for you, you know, it that is invaluable. You know, you can't put a price on it.

SPEAKER_01 25:37

So it's it's establishing trust. Yes, yeah, and and that has to be established at the first 30 seconds of meeting a person.

SPEAKER_00 25:45

That comes back to what we were talking about. That trust has to be maintained for a long period of time. Yeah, you know, attitudes and emotions and all this sort of thing. That's one of the hardest uh challenges of a custom build. I can build anything you want, it's it's it's not a problem.

Closing Thoughts And How To Connect

SPEAKER_03 26:02

But it's a challenge in real estate in general because people get very emotional. Because as you said in the beginning, this is like one of the biggest investments that most people do in their lives. So whether it's a custom build or they're buying, you know, an existing home. It's not really a custom build.

SPEAKER_01 26:16

Yeah, I mean, that how many let's let's let's be honest, how many people are building multiple custom homes in their lifetime? Nothing, it's their last home. Oftentimes and there are the the fringe, you know people that yeah, I can't.

SPEAKER_00 26:34

How often are people building a custom home for a second time in the same area?

SPEAKER_01 26:40

Virtually even less, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:42

Yeah, so everyone is different, right? Yeah, right. And then when you put in a new location, now you got different regulations. Yeah, it's good in those sorts of things. So yeah.

SPEAKER_03 26:53

Well, I learned a lot today. Um, David. I I you and I have had this conversation, we've all had this conversation about how taking a you had a home in Arizona that you completely gut it and make it more custom because it wasn't. So thank you so much for spending your time with us today. We really appreciate it. Yeah, yeah. So let's let's do it again. Let's do it again. Let's do it again.

SPEAKER_01 27:14

If if you're if you are curious, you can go to uh alair homes. It's a l a i r homes.com. And we'll put the link a lot of the work.

SPEAKER_03 27:24

We'll put the link in the description of the podcast as well to with all of his.

SPEAKER_01 27:27

And I said you're looking at one of the homes you just finished, and uh it's it's gorgeous. Oh yeah, yeah, finish it.

SPEAKER_00 27:34

A lot of credit goes to the architects. So the architects interior design is yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 27:40

But you can also bring that vision there with your clients. So that's awesome.

SPEAKER_01 27:43

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 27:44

Well, until next time, everybody, I hope that you learned a little bit something today about not only um custom homes and remodels and things like that, but just that if you do have something that you want to build or design, you have help in the community, and it all it takes is a phone call to reach out to one of us, including you, Simon. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 28:10

Thank you. Yeah, I'm open to any conversation.

SPEAKER_01 28:13

Actually, I'll be having Simon come over to take a look at some of the things we want to do in our house.

SPEAKER_00 28:17

Right.

SPEAKER_01 28:18

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:20

It still amazes me. I still love it when someone says that. Yeah, let's go for it. Let's do it.

SPEAKER_03 28:25

Yes.

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Hey, look, we all love that.

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Bye.

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