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Erny Epley

I’m Erny Epley; public-sector leader, lifelong learner, and co-host of Leading Ain’t Easy. My leadership journey has been shaped by hard lessons, honest conversations, and the reality that people don’t follow titles, they follow trust. I care deeply about developing people, owning mistakes, and doing the right thing even when it’s uncomfortable. This podcast is a space for real talk about leadership; the kind you can feel, not just read about in a handbook.