Have You Seen?! The Movie Podcast
Grab some popcorn and join Joe and Dylan as we take on the greatest movies Dylan somehow skipped. Have You Seen?! The Movie Podcast makes every episode feel like movie night with friends and where every classic is a brand-new premiere.
Have You Seen?! The Movie Podcast
The Goonies: A Hidden Treasure?
A treasure map, a fragile neighborhood, and a pirate ship that still makes your jaw drop. We dive deep into The Goonies with a clear-eyed look at what makes this 80s classic endure: the scrappy heart of kids trying to save their homes, the handmade magic of practical effects, and the messy, joyous tone that Spielberg, Richard Donner, and Chris Columbus stitched together at the height of their powers.
We unpack the film’s world-building through details that feel lived in: the Rube Goldberg gate as a friendship ritual, denim and Members Only jackets that stamp the year without turning into parody, and set pieces that favor tactile danger over digital gloss. From the bone organ’s nerve-wracking puzzle to the cavern’s booby traps, the movie keeps stakes simple and specific. We also get honest about pacing and the looseness of 80s PG, pointing to subplots that could run tighter and jokes that age unevenly while still celebrating the cast’s chemistry, including Sean Astin’s warmth, Josh Brolin’s steady big-brother energy, and the Fratellis’ Three Stooges chaos.
Then we map the lineage forward: why Stranger Things feels like Goonies’ modern heir, how the Duffer Brothers channel Spielbergian wonder, and what Sean Astin’s later role signals about the values that tie these stories together. Add in behind-the-scenes lore—the deleted octopus, the genuine reactions to the real ship, the Superman cue for Sloth, and that sprawling Cyndi Lauper video cameoing 80s wrestling—and you’ve got a full picture of a film that’s equal parts artifact and alive.
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Dylan you Goonie!
DYLAN:Welcome to Have You Seen the Movie Podcast, where every movie is a premiere.
JOE:We're heading to the Oregon coast for a treasure map, a pirate ship, and one of the most iconic kid adventures ever made. The Goonies.
DYLAN:This week's movie, The Goonies, came out in 1985 and is rated PG. But let's be honest, it's one of those 80s PG movies that probably wouldn't be PG today, so listener discretion is advised. So yeah, I to start it off, I actually had one of my trainers at work who she was, I told her that I hadn't really seen movies. And so she she was saying, like, I need to go watch the Goonies.
JOE:She was saying you need to go watch the Goonies. Yeah. Yeah.
DYLAN:Yeah, because she didn't know, you know, we did this. Yeah. And so um, but yeah, so she she was saying that I need to go watch the Goonies, and it's her favorite, and both of her kids, you know, their favorite, they watch it all the time, she said.
JOE:Yeah. Yeah, it it is one of those like comfort food type movies. Yeah. You know, it's just, I mean, you know, even the setting is kind of in that like, I want to get a bowl of soup and climb into a blanket. Uh it's you know, mid-80s, uh Spielbergs on the top. Uh uh Richard Donner, uh, you know, he he was the man who who showed people that a man could fly on film. Yeah, you know, did Superman one and two. Um Chris Columbus was up and coming as a writer. He would go on to do Pirates of the Caribbean. Oh yeah, yeah. Um I have a story about him later, but uh uh yeah, it it just you have these this perfect storm and a perfect uh you know summer movie, and you know, um just just a good good recipe for a good movie.
DYLAN:Yeah.
JOE:So uh so yeah, quick plot rundown. Group of kids find a treasure map and go on a wild adventure to save their home from foreclosure, dodging criminals, and booby traps along the way.
DYLAN:One of my like favorite parts of this movie was watching all of like the the Rube Goldberg machines.
JOE:Oh, okay.
DYLAN:That's that's what those are called with all the different elements and stuff, and I love that. Like that that was so cool, like just watching everything get put together. Yeah.
JOE:Yeah, the even just getting into the house and all the conjunctions. Right. Yeah, you know, the funny thing about um the Goonies and the whole adventure thing is the kids in that movie. Uh I have pictures of my brother at that time, and he dressed exactly like that.
DYLAN:Oh yeah.
JOE:Yeah. I mean, um it if you look around, there is a lot of print stuff. Uh I even noticed in one of the kids' rooms there's a whole like like poster of Prince and his band. You know, like in it's like, I don't know if it's it looks like it's a painting, but it might be a poster. I'm assuming it's a poster, but uh Mouth is wearing a purple rain shirt on, and you know, it's just like it's just the setting of the times. And I have like I said, I have pictures of my brother wearing the exact same the um members only coat that that Mouth is wearing with the with the purple rain shirt. That was a thing. Uh, you know, so it's just yeah, it just um the the way they dress, the who they are. Uh Mikey, I have a picture of my brother just completely in denim, just like Mikey, and and just yeah, it those kids represented us at the time, you know. Yeah. At least me, because that's that's the age I was.
DYLAN:Right. Yeah, I think I think for like a first watch through, I would say, I would say it's pretty good. Uh-huh. I don't know if it would necessarily if it would necessarily be my run-to movie for, you know, but you know, chicken soup for the soul. Yeah, right. But like, but I would say it's it's pretty good. It there's definitely parts of it that like given the PG rating that it had and how loose they were, you know, back then with the rating system and stuff, I'd be like, ooh, that's that bumped it up a rating.
JOE:Yeah, and I don't know, like, I guess you could say it it was looser, but I don't think that it was looser. Um yeah, because some of the movies that are coming out right now, it's just like, what in the heck? Like, how how is that even not rated worse than it is? Yeah, it's just yeah. Um, but yeah, the these are kids, and I think that's where they were coming from. Like Spielberg and Donner were, you know, it's like these kids have a mouth, you know, and even Mouth is named Mouth for you know uh before even all the dialogue that he has with the with the movie.
DYLAN:Yeah, it's like but yeah, how how do you feel like the pacing holds up throughout the movie?
JOE:It tells a lot, and it's crazy because I guess the original was like seven hours because there's all kinds of other like if they would were to have found all the footage to make it seven hours, yeah, the this day and age they could make it a series, right? You know, and actually have chapters and have a beginning and end to each thing, but with it being what was it an hour and a half, maybe?
DYLAN:Um just under two hours, I think.
JOE:So I think it does slow down a bit, and again, in these times you could do that, and and they got away with it, obviously, back then. Yeah, but and you also have to consider we didn't have back then Netflix or any of that TV was pretty much like you had your episodics and sitcoms, and you wouldn't have something as high budgeted, like all the pro you know, effects and props and things like that. Right. So it's really hard to look at it from this lens of today, because yeah, you can pace it better, you can write it better, but again, you had all these three guys that were on the top of their game. Um so you kind of have to give it some some leeway there, yeah. Uh when you're looking at it. Um but there are definitely some even in the looking at it through the time of the lens, and there are definitely some slow parts. And there are it feels like there's some little subplots in there that are like, okay, it's I still feel like it's slowing it down a little bit. Yeah. Uh there's a lot of buildup with with like chunk and and sl uh sloth and yeah, you know, that kind of stuff. I think it could have been a little faster.
DYLAN:Yeah, you could have definitely tightened that up.
JOE:Yeah. And I don't really feel like the boyfriend stuff, uh, the uh what's his name? The the son who's um the son of the the dad who's trying to take away the house, how he's kind of interwoven into Tony. Yeah, yeah. So he's like interwoven into everything. And it's like I think that could be faster too.
DYLAN:Yeah, I did kind of wonder why he was he kept popping up in things. Uh-huh. And I almost wonder if they would have made him out to be like kind of the the realtor or you know, whoever he was, like his son. Uh-huh. I think if they would have made that out from the get-go, it might have paid off more because then we already know that we don't like this guy.
JOE:Yeah.
DYLAN:Other than the fact that they really made Tony to at the beginning to really come across as just kind of a creep. He's older, he drives, and the whole time he was driving, he was adjusting the mirror to look down her shirt. Or there was one shot where it looked like he was trying to see up her skirt. Yeah. And it's like, that's that's just don't be don't be creepy, dude. Like Yeah.
JOE:And I and you know, like people people would say that's an ick today, and I think they would say that's an ick back then. Yeah. And and that was the point. Right. You know, like how they can build a build up a creepy person. Right. You know. Um, I mean, obviously Stranger Things took from all those movies, you know. The adventure, the um you know, the just the a bunch of kids get together to um, you know, complete a task, whether it's you know, killing aliens or or helping an alien.
DYLAN:Right. Uh-huh. Well, because with like Stranger Things is basically like the grown-up 1980s remix of the Goonies and those different Spielberg movies. And um you can see a lot of Spielberg's fingerprints just all over Stranger Things. And the Duffer brothers, who are the creators of Stranger Things, um pretty much said that their show is a love letter to Spielberg for things like E.T. and the poltergeist and the goodies. So, you know, it's like both both movies, or you know, the movies and the show um center on just ordinary kids in extraordinary circumstances, um, you know, navigating you know, supernatural threats while the adults have are mostly clueless. Right. So pretty much each of the characters in Stranger Things, like how each character, you know, goes back and forth with both groups and um is pretty much not a cop not a copy, but definitely a a faithful rewrite. Yeah, if you would.
JOE:Yeah, there's yeah. They and they intentionally did that, which is fine. Like I don't think that you know, even if even if they said, okay, you know, this character is comes from this person, you know, like there's a chunk, there's a mouth, there's a you know um I can't remember his name in Stranger Things, where he he starts off as the bully but then turns into an overarching character throughout Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he becomes a overarching character throughout the the series, but then you have the other one who um ends up dying and his sister kind of goes on through the through the um the series in it. Am I spoiling things? No.
DYLAN:I uh can't afford Netflix enough to justify watching that show over and over again, so where both of them take place, um small town America and um both use kind of realistic neighborhoods and more worn down Americana versus the the fresh and shiny. Right.
JOE:And it's definitely it definitely bleens into more of a you know that grimy adventure realism compared to the overly polished yeah, and the whole the whole idea of being a goony is a person who lives in the goondocks, which is like the boondocks, and and so like a boonie, you know, living in the boonies, you know. And so that whole that whole thing with with the kids and in Stranger Things, it's like okay, you have um okay, I don't have everybody's name, but the metalhead guy who lives in a trailer park, you know. Yeah um who who does his whole like Master of Puppets thing, you know. I mean, when was the last episode? Like five years ago. So don't get mad at me for not knowing these characters' names. Right. So bring it back already.
DYLAN:Yeah, well, it's coming out next month. Okay, and so um I have it timed out to where I watch one episode a day and then the the very like last episode of previous seasons is the night before the next one comes out.
JOE:Yeah. I mean, and you have to hand it to them because we just watch Goonies and Who Shows Up in part of the series. Sean Aston, Mikey, is in Stranger Things. Oh? Yeah, he plays um, let's see. All I remember is that um he he he dies, but he's in uh scrubs. He's uh um Oh, he's like in the lab. Yeah. No, no, he's no, he's a character. Um I'm gonna look him up and see what his name is.
DYLAN:Oh, Bob Newby. Yeah. Yeah, he's um in season two. Yeah. Yeah, because they the uh the Duffer brothers cast him like intentionally as a nod to the Goonies. And okay. Um he like in the show, Bob even talks about growing up in Hawkins and wanting to move to Maine. Uh huh. His yeah, his line, Bob's line of what's at the center of the maze, um, just it harkens back to the wholesome nature of Mikey's earnest.
JOE:Oh, okay.
DYLAN:That's yeah, that's why it's written that way.
JOE:Yeah, that's funny. No, but yeah, I mean that's a that's a huge tribute to to Goonies and even all the other movies that he's been into to put him in Stranger Things, like you know.
DYLAN:Um yeah, going re-watching Stranger Things, I'll definitely have to pay pay more attention to that.
JOE:Yeah, and like you know, going back to comparison with E.T. Um you know, Stand By Me and some of the Stephen King movies were an influence on um Stranger Things, and uh you know, Corey Feldman is in both Goonies, and then he was in Stand By Me. And he plays a much different character, and that group of boys, man, like out of Goonies, there's some it's mostly a comedy. Yeah. And um, you know, there's some heartfelt stuff in there, but but stand by me, man, there's some deep like there's they're little kids and there's some deep wounds, you know, just family stuff, getting bullied, trying to survive getting bullied, like just um it's just it's just crazy. Um we'll have to watch that one too, just to track along with the Stranger Things stuff. But yeah, but yeah, Corey Felman, and then he he's in Lost Boys later on, but you know, we can talk more about that. Okay, so well one of my favorite performances by Sean Aston was in fif uh 51st dates. Yeah. Because he plays the brother of of this girl, and he plays this like you know, muscle guy, and he wears a uh like see-through shirt half the time, like with you know, one of those like it looks like a um a jersey kind of thing that you'd wear for football. And oh yeah, you know, he's just like pumping, yeah, pumping the weights, and he's like oiled, and you know, because they live in Hawaii, so he's like tanned and he you know one of like muscle guys, and it's just it's just hilarious to see him in that that character because you don't really see him that often that way. Yeah. And then also, you know, I think he trained in Goonies so that he could be Samwise in Lord of the Rings. And and you know, his again, his character, his softness, his his heart, all that kind of stuff, um shows through in Lord of the Rings. And I'm not even sure. I mean, it seems like he's that type of person when I've seen interviews and things like that. He just seems like a very sensitive, um, caring person, you know, and so it just comes out in those characters, but uh you know, in that 51st dates one, it's just not not the same, yeah. You know. Um and then yeah, again, he is the heart of the group for for sure.
DYLAN:Yeah, yeah. And he he definitely keeps that true, you know, with Goonies never say die.
JOE:Right, right. So this is our time right here. Yeah. And uh so then Josh Brolin is that's this is his first movie. Um, it was his first? Yeah, yeah. Wow. And his dad was James Brolin, so he was already he already kind of grew up in the industry, but yeah, you know, he had to make it his his own. And for sure. Yeah.
DYLAN:So definitely good did good. I think he's one of my favorite characters.
JOE:Yeah, yeah. And you can see that you know, just what was ahead of him, and and I always thought he was the meaner older brother, and he kind of was, but at the same time, he was he was kind of along for the ride too, because he he I think he had some faith in his brother that I think he knows what he's doing.
DYLAN:This this guy's on to something. Well, and like it definitely he definitely starts off the movie as not even necessarily the meaner older brother, but like he you can definitely tell that he cared. And even if they did it in a brotherly fashion, yeah, you know, he's you could still feel that through the character.
JOE:Yeah, having grown up, probably being more the Mikey to to you know, my brother's uh brand, yeah. Uh, you know, you you kind of see where a caring brother will follow his little brother to a certain extent, and then because there's points where like, okay, he goes along with it, and he's like, Alright, let's we're done. Let's, you know, and so it's just then when later on when he's like, No, I'm the oldest, I you know I'm saying, yeah, exactly. So, yeah, there's just definitely a good play on that. Um Yeah, and then Corey Feldman, uh, again, like Lost Boys, Stand By Me, uh, with Mouth. Um he auditioned, and um I guess Jeff Cohen, who played Chunk, auditioned for Mouth, but they thought he would be a better chunk. Yeah, you know, yeah, and so and then Corey Fellman also ran into Corey Haim, which Corey Haim and Corey Fellman ended up having multiple movies later on, but that was their first meeting was this audition. Yeah, and so it that was kind of like you know Laurel and Hardy meeting, or John Lennon and you know Paul McCartney, like they did so many movies together after this that it was like it was just a chance encounter kind of thing. Like, this is gonna be your future, guys. Yeah.
DYLAN:So yeah, I think Mouth was definitely probably one of my lesser, lesser liked characters. Oh yeah. I I don't know. I just I wasn't here for it. Yeah. Yeah. But Chunk Chunk was funny. Chunk has you written all over it. Sorry, Joe.
JOE:Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah, Chunk definitely was me. I think, man, I think he was actually more daring than I was, uh, as far as like I I it's funny because I feel like Chunk was also a mouth in in some ways. Yeah, you know, like he he would say things and do things that that were not, you know, like it's almost like they kept the characters, but they still switched. I don't know. It's like uh I think mouth was meant to be more of a impersonator, like impersonating, you know, at the beginning you kind of get that feeling of him, you know, quoting um uh Three Stooges and and other TV shows because it seemed like he's always watching TV, yeah. Um, but I feel like that kind of dies down after a while, and it's more it's more mouthy as far as language, talking back, yeah, talking back. But yeah, Chunks great. Um, you know, he he um I yeah, I can't I kind of say like I definitely identify with him with the eating.
DYLAN:Yeah.
JOE:I mean, there's not much to say about the truffle shuffle, but I think it where they pick up, they throw you in the middle of all these friends, right? And so they have these established things that they do, and so they have this whole device to open the gate, and Mouth doesn't want to open the gate until Chunk does the trouble shuffle, and that's picking up his shirt and moving around his, you know, jiggling around his fat essentially.
DYLAN:And is that was that like a dance at the time, or just something that they just threw in there?
JOE:It was just something they threw in there. It was just one of those things that you know we're we're friends and we all have this thing.
DYLAN:Right. Here's an inside joke, yeah.
JOE:Yeah, yeah. There there was uh and I think the cartons back to this, like it calls back to um there used to be uh the little rascals, and it was like old black and white show, and you had all these kids that would play together and they would get in the all these little adventures, right? But they were like innocent little uh were kind of stealing ice cream from the ice cream truck or like you know, you know, trying to get alfalfa into the uh you know, talent show or something, right? And they had the the He-Man Woman Tators Club, yeah, and they had this little clubhouse, and in order to get into the clubhouse, you had to do the call sign.
DYLAN:Yep.
JOE:And the call sign was basically you put your hand uh under your chin and you wave, right?
DYLAN:Yeah, yeah. I love I I still do that to people. Exactly.
JOE:Yeah, I grew up doing that. My uncle used to do that to me, and and so we used to we used to watch those um during the day, and so I think some of that is built into this where they have these little like, you know, it's Spielberger and Donner, so they grew up watching these these uh old little rascals and you know, our gang and all that, and so they built in these little things. So I think that's kind of where it came from. Yeah, that that's where I can logically um link back to link back to it is just they have the they kind of their house is kind of the clubhouse when the parents are gone, and so they're this is how they they treat it, you know, and and so that truffle shuffle, I think, is just that. And I guess the funny thing just a little Easter egg here, uh since we're on it, but uh I guess the actor had just gotten the chicken pox and he didn't want to lose his job, so he showed up anyway. And I guess if you if you really look, you can see it on his chest. Oh funny. Yeah.
DYLAN:Speaking of that uh Mikey and Bran's house being used as the clubhouse. I love I love the intro for data. Yeah. Not the intro, but yeah, his little entrance. Right. The entrance, thank you. For data they're like the screen door, and he screened crashes right through it.
JOE:That's right. I I wonder how many screens they you know fixed uh uh along their just hanging out, you know. Right. But yeah, Keekwan as as uh data. And now he's in you know Marvel stuff and uh you know he he took a long hiatus from acting and and just did other things, and so now he's back and and it's kind of cool to see him, you know. I'm I'm hoping, you know, because he he he plays short round in in the Indiana Jones movies, and I'm just hoping he makes a comeback at some point, yeah, of of doing that and being in an Indiana Jones movie.
DYLAN:I think the the Fratellis, they're such a good like bumbling villain group.
JOE:Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, they're so great. Um, and as actors, um, you know, they they've just done so many things as actors and and just have done um like I think the biggest one that Joe Pant Pantaliano, everybody knows him from Mate The Matrix. Um but I everybody yeah, well everybody who's seen movies, everybody who's not in front of me.
DYLAN:Everybody who's not sitting across from the table from me right now, yeah, exactly.
JOE:But most people. Uh but you know, he was in the Matrix, uh, and uh, you know, for me, he was in Eddie and the Cruisers, he was in La Bamba. Uh there's just like and that's a movie that you know I'm hoping we can cover under musicals, uh, because La Bamba is just that that's just a a home, like a culturally home movie. Like, you know, it's just it's just a reflection of um Hispanic culture. But uh, you know, he he plays a huge part in that movie, and and I knew him from that probably first, because I think I s I didn't see Goonies right away. Uh but then um but just yeah, he's just been in uh just so many so many good movies. And then the funny thing with uh Robert Davi is he's you know he was in die hard and he plays he plays so they have these detectives come in to come and like you know um like take down this guy, right? They don't know who he is, they don't care who he is, and so they come to take and they're both named Johnson and Johnson. And I don't know if they worked in an ad there, but but they should have. Right. But uh that's that's kind of where I know him mostly.
DYLAN:Um what movies like what other movies did mama play in? Um I I think this is the first movie I've actually seen her act in, but I feel like I've seen her before, though.
JOE:So oddly enough, she plays another mama. She was in uh Throw Mama from the Train with Billy Crystal.
DYLAN:Okay, I okay. I think I think I remember seeing the advertisement. For that movie on VHS tapes of my grandma's house. I think that's where that's where it comes from.
JOE:Yeah. I mean she did a lot of character acting, but I think that was I I think that was her biggest one, and she may have even been nominated for that role. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah.
DYLAN:She definitely takes on the motherly, motherly type of role.
JOE:Yes. Yes, she does. Yeah. And it was crazy because uh Robert Davi would tell her to to actually hit him. Whenever, so whenever she would was hitting him, yeah, she was like going full, you know, going to town because you know he's trying to kind of be method and and really get the shtick that that like between the three of them trying to kind of do a uh three stooges type of thing. Right. You know, and so like Joe and and Robert Dobby like um met at the at the audition and instinctively had this playful uh brotherly type thing where they would like start pranking each other or really start making fun of each other, and um Robert uh made fun of his uh Joe Joe Pantliano's toupee, and so they just kind of just went back and forth, and and and so that's how they got the part because they instinctively just kind of went into it and and they knew their roles, they knew their roles going into it, and so they just played off of each other and got the roles, and then even on the set, they would still prank each other.
DYLAN:Uh so I could imagine it was it was a great time. Yeah, chemistry on that one's definitely it's definitely you definitely feel that watching the movie, yeah.
JOE:And then you throw in mama and she's just yeah. Again, it's like the two bumbling guys, and then you have the the the black and white person who's you know keeping order trying to keep it all together.
DYLAN:But yeah, I think throughout the whole movie though, they definitely it definitely does a great job of balancing the the humor and the chaos and just the heart of it all. Because really they're they're doing it to try to save their you know their families' houses.
JOE:Yeah, yeah. And I think Spielberg really, you know, he he does give input on a lot of movies, and you can see where the three who were involved really had some investment in that that idea of like growing up as a boy, what what's gonna happen if you lose your house, like and and even in your mind growing up and thinking, what would I do as a kid to save my house, and how far would I go to try to save my house and my parents' house? Like, you know, obviously they're their parent the parents are at their wit's end, they're doing all they can, and you know, and so they want to help, they want to give, they wanna you know, help with that situation. Like growing up, you know, my my brother and I grew up in you know, on welfare and the apartments and things like that, and we always wanted to find a way to help and in that. So like just being able to be an adult and go, you know, I I'm a kid now, what would I do and how would I do this? And they just yeah, it's in this they get in this great adventure.
DYLAN:So yeah, I I definitely appreciated like all of the practical sets that were made, and like you know, it just overall sticks out to me as like the pirate ship, but like you could just tell the scale of it and you could feel it. Yeah, and that's that's what really sells it.
JOE:Yeah, and even going from the house, uh Richard Donner said those those um what did you call them? The the the setups in front of the the yard, not the booby traps, but the um the Rube Goldmer, yeah. Exactly. Um those were practical, so they worked. So they you could play with them on the set, like the kids would play with them, and and so everything was was was practical on there, and they did as many practical effects as possible to to yeah, immerse you in that, and you really do feel like the whatever places you're in, you're you're immersed in those places, you know.
DYLAN:And then the booby traps or the booty traps, as Data would say exactly like I I liked that those parts of it when you know when they were in the in the um how's gonna say hallway when they're in the um cave system and the they get to the one that's the what's it what was his name? Copper pot, the one that passed away. Oh yeah, yeah. Um but you know, when they get to that one and they accidentally trigger the remaining booby traps there. Oh yeah. Like whatching that you it felt real. Yeah. You know, it it felt like there was tension and that if you don't get out of there, you're going to get hurt. Yeah. Um I like you s I feel like you see other booby trap scenarios and it's it feels impossible pretty much. Like, how does the pressure plate that you step on suddenly you know start spraying poison darts at you or across the room? Whereas with this one, it's he pulls on the trip rope, and then you see almost a behind-the-scenes shot of that of it actually starting to trigger in the axe swinging and like slowly cutting the rope and you know moving down all on its own.
JOE:Yeah, I really feel empathy with um thinking through the lens in the eyes of of my my wife's students who would be approached by uh a ginormous organ made of bones because yeah, I know the keyboard pretty well. You know, I I can I can pretty much tell you um, you know, how many um you know how many strings are in each each key on a piano, right? Uh looking inside it and knowing okay that this one has three and yada yada. But to see a piano set up in bones is a completely different thing. And then Andy's just like stressed because she's like, I haven't had piano lessons since what, four or something like that? Yeah, and so she's trying to figure out the keyboard and play and and kind of be the hero at that point for everybody, yeah. And and so I just I'm like, wow, like they really thought of everything.
DYLAN:Well, and then to even add more to the stress of it, it's an organ, so it has the dual keyboards on it, yeah. And so you have two layers that you're also trying to figure out, and even going like even going from a piano, a you know, traditional piano to having the organ, which is the dual layer, you're it you have double the double the options, yeah, yeah, yeah.
JOE:It just that kind of thing that takes a little bit of thinking behind it, but meanwhile, when you come across it, you know the stress, and so you're automatically you know thrown into that that stress.
DYLAN:Yeah, I thought it was funny when she couldn't tell if one of the notes was a A sharp or a B flat. Yeah, because it's the same note, yeah.
JOE:An A sharp and B flat is known as an inharmonic.
DYLAN:Is your wife a music teacher by chance? Yeah, I should have been one too. I guess with the water slide, like how could they not make a Goonies water park? Yeah, like you have you already have your slide, right? So you have have your theming, pirate themed, obviously. Right. Your pirate ship can be your main centerpiece. Yeah, you know, could you imagine like being in a wave pool, and like that's kind of the the focal point of the whole thing, right?
JOE:The whole pirate ship there, the whole slide.
DYLAN:Right.
JOE:I I mean you got Spielberg, Universal, are you listening, Orlando? We're we're wanting some theming. Right. We need to have it. Right. Epic doesn't have a water park near it yet. Yeah. I mean they can even rehash some some things over at the other. Expand. Expand.
DYLAN:Yeah, but with where Volcano Bay is, I don't know if it it's like completely landlocked, isn't it? Like it doesn't have room for expansion.
JOE:Yeah, I guess not.
DYLAN:I truly have never been there.
JOE:Yeah, well, Epic does have more land. Yeah. So it it would be I don't know if a water park is really their focal point for being near Epic, though. Unfortunately. Oh, you can make a water ride, you know. Just make it make it a loose loosely based water ride, kind of like uh oh, what is the biggest one? The tall one.
DYLAN:There's Pluto's barge, Dudley Dew rides ripsaw ripsaw. What is it? Dudley Dew rides Ripsaw Falls Yeah. And then yeah, I mean they're taking aren't they working on taking out um like all of the what is that area for the forbidden? It's where the like all the mythos theming is. Oh yeah. The forbidden continent? Right.
JOE:Uh yeah.
DYLAN:Is that what it's called?
JOE:Forbidden continent, maybe?
DYLAN:Because that's where um Poseidon's the Poseidon sand was.
JOE:Yeah. Yeah. Naked Goonies.
DYLAN:Oh, that'd be cool. Yeah. You heard heard it here first, people, right? Start spreading this rumor. Start spreading the news.
JOE:Goonies coming to Orlando. But that's an adventure, uh, islands of adventure, but still. Yeah, it's it's it's prime prime real estate. Right.
DYLAN:Yeah, but with the pirate ship and the the grand reveal of it, I love that moment of sitting there and the you know, you get your first shot of the pirate ship, and you just hear that music swell, and you can you can just feel yeah, you're like, oh, we've reached our goal.
JOE:It's just this huge, yeah, yeah. It's the denouement of of the film. It's like you just yeah. I know big words too. Um yeah, and the way they set it up was they had the kids um walk on the set backwards, like so they wouldn't see ahead of them. And they kind of knew what they were, they kind of knew what they were gonna see, but they hadn't seen it yet. Okay, and so they they rolled, started going, had them turn around, and shot, you know, multiple angles so they could get their actual physical reaction. Wow, and the only thing that messed it up was that um Josh said the F-word in it because they were all so just blown away by seeing this huge ship, this huge physical ship um that they would end up sh you know filming on uh that they were just you know, they were using you know their real words. And so Josh Brolin said the F-word, so they had to go back and do some retakes because they uh, you know, it they're like, oh, okay, we got we were planning that, right?
DYLAN:But uh so hey, it's that's his reaction, yeah. Yeah, yeah, and then with with the pirate ship, too. Yeah, okay. I have to ask, after the movie was over, yeah, you made us watch this the the full two-hour Cindy Lauper music.
JOE:Yeah. The uh the epic uh what is it called? Um epilogue. Like if it was tied to if it was tied to Goonies afterwards, it would be like the way Lord of the Rings ends where there's like five different endings. Yeah. Yeah, it was it was long even for MTV, and I'm not even sure like if that was like a they did like a world premiere at the time. Yeah, but part of the reason why I wanted to show you is because where things were at the time is where that that video was. And so you have the the huge thing about it was Cindy Lopper was established and uh her kind of rival, because there's always these rivals, right? Sort of her rival was Madonna, but totally see that the the biggest thing at the time that was going on was um wrestling, and so WWF wrestling was like huge at that point. Oh, okay, and so all those guys in the in that video are all wrestlers. Oh, yeah, so there's maybe if I knew wrestling, I would have noticed, yeah, and so somehow she got paired up with them for for quite a few videos and quite a few things. Oh, really?
DYLAN:Oh, that's funny.
JOE:She would make appearances on there, and so there there was just this whole thing, right?
DYLAN:This whole tie together.
JOE:So they do this whole 12-minute video of of this song that I think two hours for for go listen to some Cindy Lauper. One of my favorite ones is Time After Time. I mean, as a kid, that made me cry. Uh, this song to me was just mediocre.
DYLAN:Well, and so funny too, because we finished the Goonies. Um I was getting up to take something to the kitchen or something, and you're like, no, don't move. We have to watch this now. I was like, okay, stop expecting like some big thing. And then it was like, it was this most like middle of the road thing.
JOE:The conversation was probably like, hey, you want to want to watch this now? Sure.
DYLAN:Probably. I mean, I'm not one to over-exaggerate brands, but if I were, I was physically restrained to the couch like Brand was in the chair.
JOE:By by a soft little gray blanket. Right. You didn't even have a cat on you at that point. Right. Big fact. So yeah, that video was 12 minutes, and I mean the goodies are.
DYLAN:Did they air that video on MTV in two parts? Because I thought it like cut it, it cuts it in the middle. Right.
JOE:There's a to the there's two parts to it, basically.
DYLAN:So I was that's why I was wondering if they like and I'm not sure like one and then the other.
JOE:Because so at the time, you know, Thriller made a made a dent in music videos. Right. And that whole video, I think, is probably around 12 minutes or something, 15 minutes, something that that whole thing was a whole, you know, you go from horror movie and zombie movie, all that kind of stuff. So I think a lot of videos were coming out as world premieres, and so like they could have premiered as 12, but then they dialed it down to I know there's like a three-minute version, yeah. But the whole, you know, still the whole story arc for that was they were trying to do Goonies, the Goonie uh script in 12 minutes, you know.
DYLAN:And so you yeah, yeah, which you totally get that. Yeah, the only part I was confused about, and I have this written down even, but because Dada says it later at the end. Dada's talking to with the reporter and he talks about an octopus. Oh, you could in the movie? Or yeah, in the movie at the end, he's he talks about an octopus, and I'm like, where I was like, where in this movie was there an octopus? I'm like, did I fall asleep? I've been known to do that. Yeah, so I'm like, did I fall asleep for a little bit and just miss part of it? But then also in the Cyndi Lauper um music, you know, video full two-hour music video, um, she she is wrapped in octopus tentacle. Yeah. Like, where is this coming from? Yeah.
JOE:Yeah, they filmed the scene where um yeah, there was an octopus in the you know, in the cave, like when they get in there and they so they had to get out of it.
DYLAN:Um is it the one where they're walking across the beam?
JOE:I'm not sure where it was at exactly, but okay, you know, because they're going through all these basically this whole labyrinth of trying to get through, right? At some point, there's an octopus. And they filmed it, but Richard Donner went back and looked at the footage and did not like what he saw. Really? And so they just kind of they they trimmed out what they could, yeah, but left in certain things on accident that kind of talked about that there was an octopus. Gotcha.
DYLAN:So I didn't fall asleep. Great. Yeah, you didn't know going back to the to the you know, walk in the the beam though, the and not tight rope, but what would you call that? Like just like the scene where they're walking across the the mast of the ship.
JOE:Okay, yeah.
DYLAN:And um, I love all of like data's gadgets and stuff. Uh-huh. Like when they're walking across and he's like, slippery shoes. And I'm like, does he have slippery shoes? And then he has like the little pumps on it that squared out the oil or whatever it was. Oh, when they're walking the plank? No, no. When they're walking from across like the waterfall in front of it, is I thought I don't know, I thought it looked like a ship mast.
JOE:Oh, okay.
DYLAN:And so then like the kids make it across and data does his thing and then gets across, and then when the fratellis get there, they start making their way across and fall, and it yeah, it hurts them greatly. Yeah, and that that was a funny scene.
JOE:Yeah, I think uh my favorite scene that always makes me laugh is Chunks confession. I mean, because here's the thing the way they set it up, they don't give him specifics, and he's a little kid, so they say, tell me everything. And he literally tells them everything. Yep, and they almost like want to adopt him at the end because they're like, this kid's so bad, like I'm starting to like him, you know. One of my favorite points, um, you know, that kind of reminds me of a thing in Standby Me, but when he when he talks about he's at a movie theater and he starts going and he makes everybody else sick and all that kind of stuff, like apparently that was something that Steven Spielberg had actually done as a kid over there. So it was just like it's just so great to hear him like because again, they did not give him specifics, so they're like, tell us everything, okay. I'll tell you everything, right? They didn't ask, tell us about the plan or tell us what you guys are up to.
DYLAN:Funny.
JOE:So it just yeah, that's so good. So yeah, a couple of behind the scenes that we haven't talked about is there was the sequence where they're underneath that country club and they're they're messing with the pipes and they're trying to, you know, they're wrenching at them.
DYLAN:When the um handles get pulled backwards to the walls, yeah, and they're all looking in like what the heck.
JOE:So like I guess it was gonna be multiple things, and they they just set it on just the country club. But originally there was gonna be uh Rick Baker had designed some ape suits, and part of that chaos was gonna somehow uh release apes from the local zoo. So like those pipes were gonna be tied to multiple places, and they were like there's just gonna be a thing, a whole sequence of of uh again events. Yeah, this again, this movie was set it was you know, seven-hour cut, so there's who knows how much stuff was filmed and wasn't, but those those suits went on to other movies and stuff, but it was just the you know, yeah, it was supposed to be that. And then there's there's also uh Easter eggs to other movies, and the main ones that I caught on is when Chunk calls the police and he's like, you know, oh, is it is it this this story again, and is you know, and all that. And so the cop tells Chunk, oh, like the the prank about creatures multiplying if you get water on them, and the movie The Gremlins is based on that premise. Oh and so it's just a throwback to to the the gremlins.
DYLAN:Wait, so you get you get water on them?
JOE:Yeah, so you can multiply you have this little these little furry gremlins that are cute, and when you if you get water on them or feed them after uh midnight, then they grow these other like nasty gremlins that yeah, that like spawn basically.
DYLAN:And so that's crazy.
JOE:Yeah, so that'll be one that we'll we'll watch, and it's more in the the Goonies like kind of um genre of things, so it's not wh a horror movie, it's more of a okay yeah, can't kind of campy funny. Gotcha.
DYLAN:I I was wondering, I was like, is it like super scary then?
JOE:Yeah, yeah, no, it sounds like it would be, or it could be too. And then uh a nod to Superman and the theme is when uh sloth shows his Superman shirt. And that's a total that's a total tribute to Richard Donner. Yeah, it's a total they had to throw that in because it's Richard Donner. And I mean they play the full that the cool thing about that is they play the full Superman theme. You know, it's not even you know, in other movies it would have to be a uh like here's a three-second snippet of something that sounds like it, you know, but they're like it's Richard Donner's the director, he has the rights to the song, boom, you know, we're we're doing a Superman, so yeah. And that that's the best thing about this movie again, is is having Richard Donner and Steven Spielberg and Chris Columbus on these this movie, it's just I mean it makes it it makes it what it is, you know.
DYLAN:I I always appreciate practical effects. You talked about that before, yeah. So all of the practical sets on it. I think the most that they used um uh green screen or whatever it was is in the organ room when the floor falls out. And I feel like that's super noticeable, or to me it was super noticeable, um you know, but limited by the technology of the diamond and such.
JOE:Yeah. Um there's a point when they're when they first I think when they first go in to the big cave or whatever, and you can or when they hold up the coin, actually, when they're they're just they're on the ridge, they're they're doing, you know, they're on their bikes. Um that's a cool scene, actually, because you can actually notice if you rewatch it, Sean Aston drops the map. But he but he like throws down his bike real quick, runs back, gets the map.
DYLAN:I was wondering what that was about.
JOE:Yeah, it was basically he dropped it on accident and he tried to save the shot. And so he did that whole thing to and it looks really cool.
DYLAN:Like he Yeah, I mean it looks it looks like Mikey, you know, accidentally dropped his. Yeah, I gotta go back for it. Yeah, okay. I I couldn't see what he dropped or what really was going on, but I did notice I was like, why did he circle back around?
JOE:Yeah. But when they get to the ridge and they hold up the coin and they're trying to figure out where where they're supposed to be, um they do a shot where it's of the kids and behind them is the is the you know the foreground the you know the the coast. It's a blue screen shot and you can tell like a lot and the other cast gives Richard Johnner a bad time. And I think Corey Felman says, you mean you could you could make us think a man could um could fly, but you couldn't pull this off. And so like you know, as far as practical effects, I'm sure they forgot to get the shot, and instead of fly flying everybody back to, you know, Oregon or whatever, they just did it in a in a studio, and that's that's the way it ended up. But that's kind of how things go. Um with shooting a film, it's like you know, you're going through all your shots and you're like, oh no, we forgot to get this one, so you have to go back and do something that's you know that's not normal or doesn't look as you know um as fit to when you were shooting everything together. And and I guess this movie they shot chronologically, so oh really? Yeah, and that's very rare for a movie. Like usually if you're you know you're on the set of this this particular thing and it ends here and it ends there, yeah. You you you shoot it, you shoot all those scenes in that one place, and then you go to the next place and shoe all shoot all the scenes, but they had they did it chronologically, so I gotcha. Yeah.
DYLAN:So Joe, how many truffle shuffles out of ten would you rate this?
JOE:I think I'm gonna give it a six point five.
DYLAN:Yeah, I would I would definitely have to agree on the six point five. Um for me, it's definitely not one that I would feel like running back to to watch over and over again. Um but I thought as kind of a a one-off, I thought it was a good watch. I mean, I was entertained, but I wouldn't go out of my way to watch it again.
JOE:Yeah, and I didn't I didn't grow up necessarily watching it, so yeah, that's that's I think that's part of why too. Some people yeah, they they grew up watching it and all that, and for me it was it it was until later. Um but I do like it, I do enjoy it, and I do appreciate the you know, how it's as a movie historically has contributed to cinema. You know.
DYLAN:Yep. Yeah, because there's there's definitely a lot of things that had takeaways from it. Is the Goonies the best kid kids on an adventure movie ever?
JOE:It's out there.
DYLAN:Yeah, I mean Yeah, I would agree with that. I wouldn't say it would be my go-to kids on adventure movie, but I also can't think of one right now that I would say like, oh, you want a kids on adventure movie you know, here it is.
JOE:Yeah, right. The only one that sticks in my mind that's really truly that is Goonies that I can think of. But that's not Stranger Things. I mean Stranger Things is a whole different level of You know. Right. But again, it it it took Goonies to make Stranger Things. Yeah, very true.
DYLAN:So maybe it is the best kids on Adventure movie.
JOE:Maybe it's the only one I can fathom his ever being one. So uh we already determined that I'm chunk, and I would say I'm probably a little bit of mouth, but I'm probably a Mikey too. Where would you put yourself? Um Yeah, I think out of Well, none of us are a Troy.
DYLAN:Oh, absolutely not. I think out of those ones, though, I would say that I probably lean most towards data.
JOE:Yeah. Okay.
DYLAN:So I I definitely like my my gadgets and gizmos.
JOE:Yeah. Next week we're trading pirate ships for plutonium. Join us as we head back to 1985 for one of the most iconic adventures ever made. And I know that other podcasts have covered this movie, but this was filmed in my backyard. So back to the future, it is. Because where we're going, we don't need Rhodes.
DYLAN:There it is. He said it, folks. Well, thank you all for listening. And if you have any favorite Goonie moments that we did not cover, let us know. Check out our socials. All the links are down in the description of where you can find us. Like, subscribe. Patreon. Patreon. Dylan, you Goonie. I'm keeping that in there.
JOE:That's it for this week. So now go find your own treasure map and remember Goonies never say die.