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Dr. Sue Jackson: Flow State Explained

Liana Season 1 Episode 2

What does it really mean to be “in the zone”? In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Sue Jackson, co-author of Flow in Sports with Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi and creator of the Flow State Scale and Dispositional Flow Scale - the tools researchers still use to study peak performance.

Together, we explore:

  • What flow is, and why it matters in sport and life.
  • The nine dimensions of flow and how athletes can access them.
  • How tools like the Flow State Scale help fighters and coaches reflect and improve.
  • Why anxiety, pressure, and distraction can kill flow, and how to manage them.
  • Practical strategies to find flow more often, whether you’re a fighter, runner, or weekend athlete.

Dr. Jackson shares insights from decades of research, showing how flow isn’t just a lucky state - it’s something you can learn to invite, train, and apply far beyond sport.