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Hello, hello, hello the surface below the surface below below the surface. Deep down below, down below, underwater, underwater. Thousands of meters down below the underground underground. Lies, lies, on the ground, on the ground. Below the surface. Below the surface.
SPEAKER_01I see.
SPEAKER_02Yo, what a do, what it do, y'all. Uh up. Below the surface. Back at it.
SPEAKER_06Yes. Yes. Here you go, sir. Thank you, thank you. All right, man. Oh, here we go. I was gonna kick off, man. There was a lot of uh emotion in the air when I walked down here. Everything wasn't mic'd up.
SPEAKER_03Everybody No, I'm sorry, you can't just jump in and get on. We gotta do mic checks, bro.
SPEAKER_06Rick Rock was doing his usual freak out. We're fine, dude. We're fine, man. I'm off.
SPEAKER_07There you go.
SPEAKER_06We got special guests. Tythrax in the building. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. What are we? I'm back. I'm excited. Thank you for having me back, you guys. Of course, of course.
SPEAKER_03Thank you for being here. Of course.
SPEAKER_06We'll get it kicked off, man. I'm your boy Dirtbag Johnny in a place to be.
SPEAKER_03I'm DJ Rick Rock up in this motherfucker.
SPEAKER_06And it's your boy T Dub. T Dub. And like I said, we got Tythrax in the building. Hell yeah. In the Dutch. Tithrax. Yes, sir, man. Remember the name.
SPEAKER_05T Y Space T-H-R-A-X.
SPEAKER_06I remember we had you on the first time, dude. You've grown up so much. Thank you. Yeah, yeah. I think about that shit all the time, bro. That was so early. He's got a beard.
SPEAKER_05Full beard, at least. I had a beard coming in then. I had a beard coming in. His voice got deeper. My voice got raspier. No, we're just fucking with you, dude. Yeah, welcome back, dude.
SPEAKER_06You've got a lot of shit going on, man. I think all of us will they'll all agree with me when I say, dude, we're proud of you, man. You've got a lot of shit going on. Thank you, guys. Thank you. We knew it. We called it.
SPEAKER_05You guys did call it. You guys did call it.
SPEAKER_02Oh, we had conversations after you left, too. Believe me. Yeah, we did. We did. Oh, yes. That's fire. That's fire.
SPEAKER_05Well, hopefully, you guys are gonna have more conversations after I leave today. Hopefully. Fingers crossed.
SPEAKER_03Fingers crossed, definitely. No, everything's good. I mean, so the main thing is July 21st, Bone Thugs and Harmony. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05No, July 24th. July 24. July 24th? Oh, yes. Okay, my bad. July 24th, uh, Hobart Art Theater for the Lake Front series. So it'll be in the back of the Hobart Art series Hobart Art Theater by the lake and shit.
SPEAKER_06Oh, that's dope.
SPEAKER_05Dope as fuck. I'm excited. It's knocking off two goals off my bucket list. I've always wanted to perform at Hobart Art Theater. I'm I'm from Indiana. I'm from Meryville. So it's like I've been going to shows there forever. So it's to be able to perform there with some fucking legends, that's sick and on itself. And I've always wanted to do a show outside. I think that'd be so cool.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03So how how how'd that come to pass?
SPEAKER_05Um boy, he's uh he's hooked up with the dude who does shows, like throws the shows there, and then he put in a good word for me, gave me his contact, and I hit him up and shit, and uh he gave me a chance. That's what's gave me a chance. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06It's fire.
SPEAKER_03Who else is lined up? Who else you got lined up?
SPEAKER_05It's gonna be obviously Bone Thugs for the headline, and then openers is Blizzy, Chambers, Omen City, uh, and me. Me.
SPEAKER_02Now, is it all five members or is it only four?
SPEAKER_05I'm guessing uh because I did I did hear one left. I did I did hear another one left too. So it's probably think it might be the three or four. I know one because we know for sure one ain't gonna be there.
SPEAKER_02We know flesh is always questionable, and busy's like it you never know with him.
SPEAKER_05I was going through comments and then I fucking uh comments on like Bone Thugs videos, and it said busy never really fucked with them. I don't know what that's about.
SPEAKER_06Busy's a wild card.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I don't know what that's about.
SPEAKER_02I I know people from Ohio that actually's worked with Cray and all them and whatnot, and I've heard some stories and and uh busy's always been a little bit on the wild side from what I from what I hear. Yeah, oh man, so dope, so dope. But yeah, so I mean I heard there was a couple shows he was gonna be at throughout this year, and but then they said he wasn't, so I was just I was curious. I was curious. My favorite member of the group though, so that's why I admire too.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah. Yeah, from what I've heard, he's he's hard. He's hard. I haven't heard their whole disc cog. Like, I know y'all probably like grew up on that. Yes, yes y'all grew up on that shit. And obviously, I've heard it all growing up too, but this is so dope for me because like it is, it's the music I grew up from, my parents listening to and shit. And it's dope. It's dope.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, especially busy. I get into the deep tracks. I like I know from independent release demons. Nobody can nobody can stop me. Uh like even before that, I I got the lyrics from a Busy Bone song actually tattooed on me, and it's one of his not really known songs, but it's it's something that when I heard it, it resonated with me. It helped me, it actually helped me get through some tough times. I get some real D mm.
SPEAKER_05Usually Juice World tatted on me for a reason. He got me through the fucking most. He got me through the most. That's what's up. Rest in peace, Juice World. Yes, sir. Yep. So I hope to see y'all there then, since y'all like him. I'm looking at it. Talking, I'm looking at it. I got tickets, so hit me up. Hit me up.
SPEAKER_03Uh give everybody the plug. Where can they get tickets and how can they get them from you?
SPEAKER_05Tythrax everywhere. Tithrax. Facebook is Tyler Thaxton, but uh Tythrax everywhere.
SPEAKER_06Let's go. Or hit us up, man, we'll contact them for you. Yes, yes, yes.
SPEAKER_02We would definitely pass the word along.
SPEAKER_06Um I know you've done a lot of shows, a lot of pop-ups with uh CO.
SPEAKER_05Shout out CO Pink Skies.
SPEAKER_06You got a new song with Tank Tank. Mm-hmm. Yep.
SPEAKER_05That's go stream that shit on all platforms. Hard as fuck. One of my favorite collabs I've ever done. That shit is hard. Because it's day it's different than everything I've ever hopped on. It's different. But we slid, we slid.
SPEAKER_06You got a uh track with Didn't you got a track with default keys too? That was right after this. That was the first time getting on this.
SPEAKER_05That was right after I hit him up right after this. I needed him on a hook. He was did it, he killed it, delivered for sure.
SPEAKER_06Who else have you collabed with since then?
SPEAKER_05Uh a lot of people. Eric P the villain, I got a song with called Mr. Loveless. That shit's hard. Uh uh people a bunch of people out of state I've never met, just through online and shit. There's a bunch of unreleased shit that people are just holding out and won't drop. You know how it goes. You know how it goes.
SPEAKER_07That's what's up, dude.
SPEAKER_05But uh local, local. Uh Billy Omen. Shout out, Billy Omen, Omen City. Yeah, we got we got uh one new song that just came out, but we got some stuff, uh other stuff coming. We're actually gonna be in Kokomo, Indiana. So if anyone is around that area, uh, when is it next Saturday? He's bringing me on his set to uh perform some of our songs. So if you're around the Kokomo area, slide.
SPEAKER_02That's what's up.
SPEAKER_05Uh $10 at the door, I'm pretty sure. It starts at six. Well, doors open at six and uh music at seven. But uh me and Billy got some stuff. Ghosty Double XL Ghost, shout out, my boy. Uh we got a song coming. Text. A lot of people, a lot of people. Yeah, I I love collabing and I don't charge for features, so anyone wants a feature, hit me up. Hit me up. Holler, holla.
SPEAKER_06Um next. What was today? Sunday, Saturday. Are you available?
SPEAKER_05Sunday, Saturday.
SPEAKER_06Next Saturday coming up.
SPEAKER_05No, that's the day of the Kokomo thing. Oh, okay. You'll be at it. Yeah. Oh, what time though?
SPEAKER_06What time are we talking about? We're talking like 6 p.m.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah, that's the day of the Kokomo thing. What y'all got going on?
SPEAKER_06We got a live, another live going on. At the Region Records. At the Region Records. It's okay, bro. There's gonna be more, bro. You killed it the last time, dude.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, that was fun. That was fun. That was a cool vibe, too. It was real cool.
SPEAKER_06But do your thing, man. Break your leg, break both legs out there, dude. Do your thing, man. Thank you, thank you. Um, yeah, next, well, this Saturday 23rd, we'll be live at Region Records. We will be with K.O. Rosan. Shout out him.
SPEAKER_05I remember him from the pop The Last Pink Skies Pop Up, Pink Hard.
SPEAKER_06KO Razen, uh Reckless Rodney will be there. Also, in the shout out, we will have who else? Who else is there? I told you the lineup. KO Ryan. Reckless Rodney. There's another group. I know why. Oh, Indio Chia Syndrome. Yeah, they'll be there. And I gotta call them when I get out of here. We're gonna have the first ever rock band on Below the Surface Live Black Sunrise. What? That's sick. That's sick.
SPEAKER_05It's awesome to fucking broaden your horizons. It's awesome.
SPEAKER_02Hey Rick, the Facebook people are getting a buzz. They can't hear nothing.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, that happened on the Pony Boy episode. I had to skip through some.
unknownYeah, I don't know why.
SPEAKER_02I'm just letting you know, I just got a message and said, so I thought I'd pass it along.
SPEAKER_06That's alright, dude. They can they can go listen to the show on Apple Music, Spotify. It'll be up pretty soon. Yeah. Don't trade.
SPEAKER_03It's better anyway.
SPEAKER_05Support it supports more. Supports more.
SPEAKER_06That's because I look like a werewolf on camera right now. That's what it is. I know that's what it is.
SPEAKER_03It's gotta be some with those cables or an iRig. I don't know. It's okay. We'll keep it going.
SPEAKER_06So what's up, man? Let's get into some music. You got some new music queued up?
SPEAKER_05I do. I do. Let's run that. Let's run that. Let's do that. Well, this one right here is called uh actually, you know what? Nah.
SPEAKER_02Oh, he's holding out. He's holding out on us. Hold on.
SPEAKER_05Don't even look at it. I wish I was connected like that.
SPEAKER_02Hey, I actually have info and I can tell you how much it is for a feature off air and whatnot.
SPEAKER_05Oh, really?
SPEAKER_02Yes, I I've spoken to the man myself about features and things like that.
SPEAKER_05So it wouldn't be that bad. Like that would that would be a little boost that would help. I've been thinking about doing that. I've never like paid a big artist for a feature. I've been thinking about looking around to see which artist.
SPEAKER_02I reached out to him. He talked. Uh we talked a little bit about you know his fees and all that stuff and contracts and everything. And and uh I I give you information, he'll even give feedback on your music. Like he's he listened to our catalog and told us what songs he's liked of DK's the most and whatnot, too.
SPEAKER_05So he's he's actually that's fire. He's he's immersive with the fans. That's hard. I like that. I like that. Yeah, man.
SPEAKER_06He's going through the catalog right now.
SPEAKER_05Alright, cool. Man, I did have something queued up, but that's like a remix. I don't want to show y'all a remix before I even drop the original. You're filming.
SPEAKER_06You show whatever you want, dude.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, we definitely want to get some.
SPEAKER_02It's the remix. What is the original at? We definitely want to get some other. Okay, you know what? Yeah, run that.
SPEAKER_05Run that. Man, run that. It's the original of the one I was gonna show y'all, but I ain't gonna show y'all that one. I am gonna be performing at the Bone Thug show, though, so y'all can hear it then. I took it. Alright, check it out. I'm full of darkness why it's hard for me to sleep. I'll detach my harness, catch me falling somewhere deep. I feel like I'm cosic, but it's hard to pick up speed. I'm probably unconscious, and it's probably from the bleed.
SPEAKER_04I do it's caught. Okay, okay.
SPEAKER_05Can't fucking can't fucking get CO songs. No, that was see one of I'm gonna shout out CO. That was one of his songs. We ain't gonna leak that though. That's all you're gonna get. That's all you're gonna get.
SPEAKER_06Like I said, man, you have grown up. Thank you. I appreciate it. We have watched you evolve, man. That's super dope, dude. Thank you, man. Yeah, I really dig that shit. He's like, You you thought you knew Tythrax. Just wait. Just wait.
SPEAKER_05Check this shit. Y'all knew Tyler. Alright.
SPEAKER_06Good shit, dude. That's a super dope song, dude. Who did the production?
SPEAKER_05Vocals. Uh it was uh Mixon Mastered recorded over at my boy Seth's house, kids in the attic. Shout out. Uh, but the beat, I got that shit online. Not gonna lie, I didn't get it off no one I know.
SPEAKER_06But still dope though, man. Yeah. I done that shit.
SPEAKER_05Thank you. Thank you.
SPEAKER_06Very Mac Miller-ish. If you ask me, yeah. Not saying that you sounded like that, but it was down at five. But it was definitely like that. I know how much I get that shit, dog. How much I get it.
SPEAKER_05But it's great though. I like hearing it. Because I mean, obviously he influenced me. I can't deny that. Right. But like people don't say you sound like him. They say you remind me of him. Yeah, you don't sound like him. No, no one ever says I sound like him.
SPEAKER_06You remind me of him, though.
SPEAKER_02You can definitely see the influences there.
SPEAKER_06But what I liked about it, and I always told you about this shit, I talked to Tatito about it, is you got that 90s essence about you, dude, that is like fucking very crazy. Even though you like the 90s, you probably weren't even doing music. I was born in 2004. See, there you go. I don't know, maybe you've been reincarnated or something, dude. That sounds like some 90s alternative slash Yeah, 90s alternative. That's exactly what that sounds like. That's that's kind of what I was going for, I guess.
SPEAKER_05But we have to hop hop, hip hop vibe, the hip hop, yeah, dude.
SPEAKER_06And I've always said that about your music. You've got a very old soul in your music and shit, which is very cool, dude. Thank you.
SPEAKER_03I'm trying to remember when when was the last time we interviewed you? It was down at your house, in it. I was here, I was here.
SPEAKER_05It was here. Well, I mean, technically it was at the music store. If y'all want to count that, that the uh last live y'all did. Yeah. Yeah, that was the last time.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, that was one when I was at the house the first time. First time he was down here.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_06And I forgot how we put that together. Somebody reached out to me. You reached out to me? I forget.
SPEAKER_05Uh no, it was at the Pink Skies pop-up. We got it. It was at the I think it was the first one. I think it was the first one. Super dope though, dude. Yeah, a lot of firsts happened around that time. It's pretty crazy. Like first show, first podcast. It's pretty it was pretty dope. Pretty dope time. But yeah, I've grown lots happened since. Lots happened.
SPEAKER_06For sure. I know, dude. I see you pop up and then videos out, uh, reels out, definitely promoting yourself. Yeah, that's one thing you do.
SPEAKER_02Not enough though. Not enough. It's never enough, dude.
SPEAKER_03It don't matter how much you do it, it's still never enough. That's what it feels like. Believe me, we know. We know.
SPEAKER_06Um, you got any new projects you're working on?
SPEAKER_05I'm kinda working on an album. I want to drop an album real soon. Real soon. But I've I've always said that. I've always said that. But yeah, I got I do actually got something coming together though. I've been putting together since probably about November, December, but it's I probably got five songs on it so far, which is not I want to put like 17 songs on it. So it's gonna take some time. It's gonna take some time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I'm gonna go all in. Cause if I'm gonna drop it, I mean I'm really realistically, I'm dropping it for me. Like that's like it's so yeah, I want I want to be able to uh stream the whole album front to back, and it's gonna be all good. No skips, too. It's gonna be so I gotta take my time on it. I gotta take my time.
SPEAKER_03We can't wait. Yeah, that'd be great. Well, we definitely uh would like to put you on for the next mixtape. Oh, yeah. Oh, I'm I'm in. I'm in. Run it. Right for the volume two, we're we're getting all the music right now to uh uh put another mixtape out.
SPEAKER_05Run that.
SPEAKER_03I'm there DJ Rick rock in the mix. Yeah, dude.
SPEAKER_06He's been killing it, dude. Yoda rock beat mixed up. Shout out to Yoda Rock. We just finished this out.
SPEAKER_03I was on hiatus for last year for uh personal reasons I was going through, but I'm over that now. New Horizons. This man's working like no tomorrow. I'm telling you, y'all don't see the background of this man's. You know? Yeah, man. Um, from friends and family and associates. Oh, sorry.
SPEAKER_05No, it's all you just supports me. I've grown up so much. Oh, yeah. What did happen to that blunt?
SPEAKER_03Oh, I put John on blast yesterday. What happened? I got mama on your ass. Oh, yeah, you did. That was adorable. Damn. That was adorable. I said, Mama's gonna beat your ass.
SPEAKER_06I know. She's always like, why is she never coming to see me? I'm always working.
SPEAKER_03That was that was one phone call you're like, oh, this motherfucker got me.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, dude. I'm always working 24-7. Fucking felt that, dude. Shout out to JJ's mama, Dorothy.
SPEAKER_03Gemini season's coming soon. So we're all gonna be.
SPEAKER_06When is it? Thursday. Thursday. Next week, yeah. Next week, Thursday is my birthday, man. Oh shit. Me and Biggie Smalls.
SPEAKER_03Oh shit.
SPEAKER_06We're about to kick off the Gemini season, man, and get real rowdy in this motherfucker.
SPEAKER_03My birthday is on June 13th.
SPEAKER_06June 13th.
SPEAKER_03That was the day uh OJ Simpson was getting chased by the cops for that murder. That's fire. Memorable moments.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, dude. So at work, I don't mean to talk about work, but I got a crew leader. And he's kind of a wild card too, man. Flips out and all that shit. Like the Gemini 2. No wonder he goes, yeah, asshole.
SPEAKER_03Now we know why. Says it all. Asshole.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, shout outs to my buddy Damon, man. Yeah, dude. Um what else did I want to talk to you about? The Tank Tank song that you got. Is that out already?
SPEAKER_05Yes. All streaming platforms, I believe. Shouts out too. I've only been listening to it on Spotify, but all streaming platforms, I believe.
SPEAKER_06Can you play a little bit of that? Yeah, yeah. Oh man, I gotta hear that.
SPEAKER_02Tank 65301.
SPEAKER_06That's my dude, man. That dude's hard.
SPEAKER_05Yes, he is. Big jelly roll vibes coming from that. Let's check it out. Uh more stay hat uh haystack too. Uh that's what we've got to get.
SPEAKER_02Damn. Okay, that's a good thing.
SPEAKER_05That's what's up.
SPEAKER_02Oh, you're about to leak it again. You about to leak it again.
SPEAKER_05I don't think CO would mind.
SPEAKER_06Oh man. That's super dope, dude. Yeah, dude. Man, again, dude, your cadence, man. Yep. That's that's a 90s fucking cadence, dude. I don't know. Doesn't it sound like a 90s cadence to you? Yeah, it does. It does.
SPEAKER_05Fuck yeah, I love to hear that. Dope, dude. Always considered myself an old soul.
SPEAKER_06Always. He's reincarnated. Oh yeah. From another MC from the 90s, the golden era.
SPEAKER_03The golden era hip hop, huh? So question.
SPEAKER_05Vanilla ice.
SPEAKER_02No, please don't. Stop the break. Alright, hold up. Rewind. Alright, are we gonna edit that?
SPEAKER_06Alright, stop. Collaborate and listen. No, no, no. Um, Rick Rock, I got a question for you. My brother hit me with this last night. What was the best era of music?
SPEAKER_0370s.
SPEAKER_0670s? Hell yeah. That's what you're going with.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but I mean, everybody's samples from the 70s.
SPEAKER_06I mean, okay. Best era where like the music was super pop. And like, I mean, like, you could go listen to that shit right now.
SPEAKER_0370s. Okay.
SPEAKER_05Unpopular opinion. I think it's now. I think we're in it. Oh, damn. Oh, I don't know. It's just because, like, yeah, we have a lot of shitty fucking music out there, but like the game, it's oversaturated, very but at the end of the day, we have all so much great music. So much great music. Like, there's this guy named Braden Bales. Go look him up. Like, he he's doing his thing right now. He's like 19 years old. Damn it. Yeah, he's but yeah, you could feel it in his voice and shit. Like he he's a singer, like a really good singer. Uh but yeah, no, now we're in it. We're in it, I think. Just cause everybody can make music, anyone can do it.
SPEAKER_03I see your perspective. Because people can make the music. And the reason why I see it from why I say the 70s is because the way I grew up, everybody was sampling music from several.
SPEAKER_06So that's from all genres, right?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, soul, funk, disco. Okay. You know, you know what I mean? Soul, yeah. It was RB, jazz.
SPEAKER_02I'm gonna say the mid-90s to the early 2000s, bro. That's just RB was real RB. Rap had so many different it wasn't just one thing that was popular. There were so many different styles that was popping all at the same time. So you no matter what, there was a different vibe you could feel no matter what was going on. If you was going out to party, you could throw this on. If you was out rolling with your boys and you wanted to just throw the thug shit on. If you wanted to chill with your girl, you even had not just RB, but but hip-hop and rap that was telling them. Man, man. Despite all the bullshit with that man. Yeah, yeah. He's the fucking genius. Yes, dude. Man.
SPEAKER_06So it's mid-90s through the early 2000s.
SPEAKER_05And I feel like then you could it was easier to get recognized just for dropping good music. Now you gotta do all this content and shit. So I mean, there are pros and cons. There are pros and cons.
SPEAKER_02But yeah, I think nowadays you're right. There is more of the social media aspect of the side.
SPEAKER_05100% if you if you're just dropping a song on fucking Spotify, you're not it's gonna go nowhere. And it could be the best song in the world. Yes, it could be su it's beautiful, it could be bring tears to people's eyes, but it's not gonna get heard if you ain't dropping content every day. Every and you gotta do it every day now. Every day.
SPEAKER_06So back to what Rick Rock said in the 70s, though. In the 70s, you damn near had to have your shit played on the fucking radio. Like you had to have your shit put out there, and and it didn't give a fuck who you were, you'd have to have your shit out there. My answer needs to be money and connections for that was the 90s, dude. From the night 1990 all the way to 99, because I feel like that was the hardest era of golden era of hip hop. All the rock was coming out right now that people fucking try to mimic. Uh Nirvana came out. Even though I hate Pearl Jam, Pearl Jam came out. Motherfucking uh punk punk was still going on.
SPEAKER_03But punk started in the 70s too.
SPEAKER_06Yes, there you go. Hip hop started in the rock.
SPEAKER_05Bone thugs, buyer tickets now.
SPEAKER_06Bone thugs came out in the 90s. I feel like the 90s was when everybody, okay, everybody was sampling from the 70s and everything, but everything was evolving.
SPEAKER_05And I think that's when a pave was uh a new pave was paved.
SPEAKER_06And then it's not only because I was doing music in the 90s, it's because hip hop was at its pinnacle.
SPEAKER_02I think that's what created the lane for a lot of what's there today.
SPEAKER_06100%, 100%. Gangster down south, at its pinnacle, even 90s trap. There was even 90s trap. There was fucking boom bap.
SPEAKER_03Boombap.
SPEAKER_06And even the old school MCs were still out doing their thing. But I want to say that that hip hop was at its pinnacle, man. There's nothing you could go back to the 90s and be like, oh, that shit was fucking trash. Nothing. Nothing. The gangster rapper was like.
SPEAKER_02I mean you had Master P dropping albums every fucking week.
SPEAKER_06And Master P was not a rapper, really. Like that. No. But I'm telling you, every album that dropped by him, you could go back now and be like, that shit's fucking classic.
SPEAKER_03Go back. Yep. All that no limit shit. Everything. At least like 23 songs on each album. Yeah, that dude. 23, 25, 30 songs. And I was a huge no limit person too, man.
SPEAKER_02I was a huge no limit fan. So I was that idiot out every week buying a new album, following his master plan. Because it was like, oh, that new limit came out. Oh, that new limit came out. And it was, I swear it was everything.
SPEAKER_06And it just wasn't P, it was so many different artists, dude.
SPEAKER_03He put a lot of motherfuckers on, dude. Hell yeah.
SPEAKER_06The only artist from that label that I do not fuck with is Silk the Shocker, dude.
SPEAKER_02Silk be rapping and cursive. Yeah, yes. I was gonna say that. I was gonna say that. He was the original offbeat rapper.
SPEAKER_06Dude, super off beat. And even man, even some of his songs were hits. But when he started rapping, dude, you were like, oh, why?
SPEAKER_05Oh, obviously ain't heard Blueface rap. We'll see.
SPEAKER_06Well, I don't even know who I know who Blueface is as a as a uh social media character. Social media character, but I do not know him as an MC.
SPEAKER_05He's got like two good songs, I'd say. Two. But they're like, he just he's famous for rapping off beat. So off fucking beat.
SPEAKER_02And that's a thing now, but it's that blows my mind.
SPEAKER_05It's to the point where it's almost good though. It almost fits. I don't know. I don't know. But Blueface is shitty. Someone who raps in cursive, Playboy Cardi, I feel like.
SPEAKER_02I feel like he really offbeat, I look in there and go, I could actually go make an album and probably do something. Because I I just gotta be offbeat and people are still bad.
SPEAKER_05They just go in there and say fucking random shit that they said on a song before. They don't be putting no thought.
SPEAKER_02Well, it helps it helps. There's no real song structure anymore either. Like you've got a minute-long song out, and that's what it is.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, it's fucking uh no attention span, it's fucking uh uh uh instant gratification, everyone's looking for it. One verse, one hook. No replayability.
SPEAKER_06You just want something that sounds good in the ride now. Yep. But that's what goes back to the 90s. Everything sounded good in your ride.
SPEAKER_03Hell yeah.
SPEAKER_06The fucking 808s from everything. Dude, psychodrama back in the day, that fucking shit would have your trunk rattling.
SPEAKER_02Psycho drama, snipers, and oh man, dude.
SPEAKER_06I'm telling you, I keep bringing it back to the 90s is because I'm not saying it's facts, but I'm saying if you bring back some 90s shit, you play some shit right now, you will be like, ugh. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_02Like I said, I still I I still eat this is going a little bit 2000s, but I'm still bumping CCA. Every once in a while, I'll turn on one life to live, or what if I go to the gym, I'll pull up one of the other for the streets mixtape, and just you know.
SPEAKER_03Rick Jill, that man.
SPEAKER_02Rick Jill, the catalog that came. I said that's more to this is more 2000s, but it's same same pretty much time frame and whatnot.
SPEAKER_06We've had yeah, dude. Let me get up.
SPEAKER_02Just the underground stuff, just to speak of bone, man.
SPEAKER_06If you're talking more about hip hop, hip-hop and rap music, um, I definitely like the down south shit from like Tila, South Circle, Fucking Crime Boss, A Ball A G Ball MJ G.
SPEAKER_07Damn.
SPEAKER_02On the outside looking in, that album was Master Ace. Who remembers that Master Ace album? Y'all, I don't know. Shout out to me in the Easy.
SPEAKER_06Get a notepad out. We're pre-school you. Project Pad. Oh man. Um Triple Darkness from Chicago.
SPEAKER_05I've heard of them. I've heard of them. Actually, I was gonna do a charity, uh, a little charity event. I was gonna perform at one that was being hosted by them and some other guy that I met at a show I did.
SPEAKER_02I was some other guy's probably some legendary guy. He don't even know who it is. He doesn't even know. I didn't know you made all those fucking hits. He was talking with DA Smart. Didn't know it. It never went through.
SPEAKER_05I messed I messaged him, but he never messaged me back. But it happens, it happens a lot.
SPEAKER_03This is good because like you're hearing about names you never heard of. You could go check it out, you know what we're talking about. Same thing like with you telling us about artists I haven't heard of. You know what I mean? Same thing, dude.
SPEAKER_06We're from different timelines and shit.
SPEAKER_03You know, the thing is what I see is like the 90s growing up the way we did, everybody was in the studio. Now you could do everything on your phone.
SPEAKER_05The accessibility when I fucking and upload it and sell it, and all the songs I showed y'all was off of my phone.
SPEAKER_06We were so amazed, we're like, damn, that shit sounds fucking good.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, because we're in the mindset of where we came from. You had to go get the mixers and and the mics, and like this my my studio that DK uses. I probably got $20, $30,000 worth of hardware.
SPEAKER_06When I when I did my first when I recorded the first time, we didn't have uh a board like that or anything. You know what it was, dude? It was two spools of tape. It was a real to real.
SPEAKER_07You probably don't even know what I'm talking about. You had to do one take.
SPEAKER_05No, no, no, it was two circles. Yeah, same type of tape.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, like Google it, just there was no punching in. No, there wasn't punching in punching in.
SPEAKER_05You had to do it in one take lives because if there was no punching in, I'm passing out.
SPEAKER_02I'm literally you had to one take Jake and your choruses, you had to record them each time. So you couldn't record it, copy it, and move it over like you can now.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, the fucking thing.
SPEAKER_02You had to record that hook, do the verse, record the hook sounding exactly the same way as the first time.
SPEAKER_05No, see, that's why a lot of these the older songs be sound, the hooks be sounding different. I think thank you. Thank you. I know like what? I never noticed that for real.
SPEAKER_06Because if you fuck up, you gotta cut tape. And then you cut the tape, and then you gotta paste the tape and put it back together. Right. Which is a pain in the ear. So you don't hear the fucking clipping. So you can't fuck up too many times. You can't cut too much tape.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_05You only got so much tape you could fucking use. That's crazy. That's how that used to on my phone. Just video editing. I was looking today. I was looking today. You can download V FL Studio on your phone right now. Yep. FL Studio. That's new. That's new.
SPEAKER_06Rick Rock used to cut video on tape.
SPEAKER_03Yo, big ass stick tape.
SPEAKER_06And a big ass knob you turn to fucking get where you can.
SPEAKER_03Public access 16 in Chicago.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, this digital. You guys don't know. Your younger generation don't understand how easy it was. And then also, too, like you had to pay for studio time, like studio, studio time. So like everybody was broke trying to go to the studio. So you had to have your shit down. You wanted to be able to run in, one take Jake that shit, get it done, and half the time you'd have them mix that shit later if you didn't have a good enough engineer that was mixing while you were recording. So when you found a studio, you know, I I wish it was still there. No tame in studios. Shout out to Finger Roll.
SPEAKER_06Finger roll.
SPEAKER_02And we used to record there. That man would be mixing a song as we're as we were recording it. Because he knew everybody that came in there, really did not everybody, but most of the people that came in there didn't have the money in their pocket to spend uh two hours to record, another two hours to mix, and you're spending $200, $300, $400 a track. Oh, yeah. And that's not even including paying for your production, paying for your beat, and and and all that other good stuff.
SPEAKER_06So thank God. I I agree with Ty. Thank God for punching in because that shit.
SPEAKER_05I didn't know y'all had a struggle like that. I didn't know.
SPEAKER_02And until Pro Tools came along, there was no punching in.
SPEAKER_05That's crazy to think about it. Thank God for punching in.
SPEAKER_06Thank God for punching in, copying and pasting. That shit saves a lot of fucking time, dude.
SPEAKER_02That struggle was real back in the day, bro. And then we didn't have all the digital equipment like you're looking at over there. Your mixer didn't have no digital screen and none of that on it.
SPEAKER_06Oh no.
SPEAKER_02You didn't have those lights, it was little fucking things that bounced around and showed you your levels. Yeah, the UV levels.
SPEAKER_06Let's get let's get off the subject now. Um I was gonna ask you um another thing. Like my brother, dude, I've been talking with him a lot of shit. He's been like actually testing my brain on this shit. He was like he brought up a song that I did called I Used to Lover, and I'm like, dude, that's my masterpiece. Like that's my fucking masterpiece when I put it together. Do you have a song that's like your masterpiece where you can go back and be like, dude, I'm very satisfied. This is my fucking masterpiece.
SPEAKER_02It's okay to be not yet.
SPEAKER_05Not yet. Not yet, but I just started Definitely not yet, no. No. I don't feel like I got I got one out there. Uh I feel like it's it's gotta shake everything up for me, and it really hasn't it hasn't happened yet. That hasn't happened yet. It'll be it'll be the song that shakes everything up. Like that that'll that'll be it.
SPEAKER_06But it's gotta it's gotta shake up everything for you, bro. It doesn't have to do with any listeners. I'm saying something that when you play it back, it gives you loosebumps and you're like, damn, even if I didn't write that shit, that shit is fucking hard.
SPEAKER_05I do got one recently that I've done, but like very recently, it's not even mixed and mastered yet. But I don't know. Yeah, probably not yet. No. Okay.
SPEAKER_03So good.
SPEAKER_02Journey continues. Hell yeah. So who's somebody from the area that you haven't worked with that you want to work with?
SPEAKER_05Hmm. Mm-hmm. You actually. You do it. Yeah, yeah. And there's a big research. There's a big reason. My uh little brother, I'm not gonna reveal too much information, but my little brother is like best friends with your son. Word. Yeah, yep. Small world. Yep.
SPEAKER_06That's crazy. Who is it? Uh Santino? Yep. Oh, okay. That's what's up, dude. That's cool shit. Small world. My kids don't give a shit. I'm gonna do this album. I don't give a fuck. Whatever, dad. Did you bring home food? Yeah. Let me some money. Nah, no. Yeah, that's he did tell me that shit. He kept saying, you know Ty Thrash. I'm like, yeah, I know him. Does he got a kid? I'm like, he ain't got no kids. He's too fucking young. Now he might have a brother. Yeah, you're right. Okay.
SPEAKER_05I got a little brother and they go to the same school.
SPEAKER_06That's what's up, dude. Yeah, we'll work something out. I'm down for whatever.
SPEAKER_05My brother said fucking uh we need to do a song together. So they can like listen to it together. Okay, there you go. There you go. That would be so fucking cool. That would be hell. Cool. We'll turn that out, dude. Yeah, just hit my line, dude.
SPEAKER_06You got my info. Run that, run that.
SPEAKER_02That's gonna be a track.
SPEAKER_06But besides another, and besides that, I'm so glad you linked with CO, dude. Oh yeah, no, I think that's it. Them jams with you guys is always a good time, bro. Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_05Fucking party vibes.
SPEAKER_03Party vibes with CO. Shouts out to CO Pinks, guys.
SPEAKER_05Shout out, shout out. He let me on the album. That shit's dropping in May. It's May, so we're gonna see what CO wants to do. It's all in his balls in his court.
SPEAKER_02Speaking of CO, I'm still waiting on that pizza you promised me when I drove you home from the bar all time.
SPEAKER_05Exposed.
SPEAKER_02I guarantee you didn't even know it was me driving you, bro.
SPEAKER_05Just give him a pair of shades or a shirt or something. Shut up, guys. He wants a pizza, bro.
SPEAKER_02Nah, no, I picked him up in the square and he was talking about he had all this pizza at the crib. And I could come in and get a pizza if I wanted something.
SPEAKER_07No pizza. You don't even remember.
SPEAKER_03Hey, motherfucker, we got my slice.
SPEAKER_02I guarantee you he did not know that was me driving him that night. I promise you.
SPEAKER_05That motherfucker ditched us on his birth and ditched everybody on his birthday and went to a whole nother. He got lit. Went to a whole nother bar. Went to a whole ditched everybody.
SPEAKER_02Where did I go? I don't know. I picked him up as soon as he got in the car. He was choo-choo. I was like, oh yeah.
SPEAKER_05Shout out CO. CO's a different. He's from a different planet.
SPEAKER_06That's super dope. I'm glad you guys linked up.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, drop that fucking album, CO. Sorry if uh sorry if I can't curse.
SPEAKER_02I believe I saw an advertisement though on Facebook. I believe I saw something.
SPEAKER_05You definitely did. You definitely did. Shit is l I can't wait for it. I can't wait for it. I'm gonna be fucking running that shit all the time, blaring it. Blairing.
SPEAKER_06Um you got some more music here up?
SPEAKER_05No.
SPEAKER_03Uh I can hear some shit.
SPEAKER_06Sorry for being so old and bringing up the past. And that masterpiece, by the way, I recorded in the spaceman. And I won't take a joke. That's what I was with the hood.
SPEAKER_03Who'd you record with?
SPEAKER_06Me and Doc Skills.
SPEAKER_03Righteous and the music.
SPEAKER_06I have that recording somewhere on cassette. But the actual song that's on for your stream is on Bandcamp and that was done with Righteous. I don't think I punched in either there than either.
SPEAKER_03Can you still find it online? Is it online now?
SPEAKER_06I think it's the Warlock EP. It's called I Use a Lover. That's my masterpiece. I've done that song on stage with a rock band behind me.
unknownTotally.
SPEAKER_06That's lit. Totally changed the vibe of the song. But the rock version is only three verses long. Okay. The original version is four verses long. And the fourth verse is actually the fucking. Check it out.
SPEAKER_05One of these shows I want to do something with a live band. Because I know a drummer and I know a guitarist. Do it. We can make something happen. We can make something happen.
SPEAKER_03Explore your boundaries. Hell yeah.
SPEAKER_05Alright, y'all. I got one for y'all. It's a little remix, man. Shout out Lotto. Obviously, I never got it cleared. And it's actually sampled from another older song that I don't know, but I know the Lotto one.
SPEAKER_07I know that sounds a lot.
SPEAKER_05Tom Tom's trying to walk into the room. You can see that I'm I don't know what I can do. I ain't got too late. I just wanted. Pull me up a fist, I'm fine. I don't give a shit about life. I'ma take a shit through the time.
SPEAKER_04Ain't put me on the list. I'ma make my own and that's it. I ain't fucking with the pet in my head. If I drop, I might just end up dead. I didn't once and I know it ain't the end.
unknownI gotta keep emin'. You print them up the ones that I'm fucking. I don't give a fuck about nothing. I'm gonna have the money, no discussion.
SPEAKER_05I'ma put a little honey with a run since I finally feel something that's got me bustin'. Now I know I'm good at rap and it took a lot of practice. I ain't looking back, I don't think about the past tense. Conscent got the pinkle up and casting out the fuck up on the catch. Cause I sing it with some glasses. I'm the best I ever been, yet the worst I ever felt. Take a medicine because I think that's gonna help. God damn. I thought we go out to know what I'm gonna do because I'm I don't know what I can do. I just want to make a step instead of dollars. I'm not calling the DPS. I just wanna give it to them. I even know we'll be able to act to the dirt. I don't know what the fuck I like. I'm gonna take it down to that. I'm gonna turn the ball back to the stuff.
SPEAKER_04I like the one that's got the day.
unknownThat's what I'm gonna bring. I'm gonna put to the sky the study. I'm gonna spot it in my body.
SPEAKER_04That's what I'm gonna bring. I'm gonna put to the study. I'm a smart Below the surface.
SPEAKER_03You heard it right here, boy. Sir, yes, sir. The house.
SPEAKER_06Great West Coast vibe, right? Yes, hell yeah, yes. West Coast DJ Quick type shit. Yep. Yeah. It's leaking again.
SPEAKER_02Man, he's just trying to leak some shit tonight. All y'all get is the beat. That's all he's gonna get. He's like dangling it right in front of us. You gotta pay for the rest, damn it.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, that one's called Good Energy. Lotto's song is called Big Energy, but mine's good energy. So you can go listen to that. It's only on YouTube, obviously. I like the fact that you can't post that on Spotify.
SPEAKER_06It's a sample from something. But as soon as it came out, you're like, oh, I know exactly where that's I got it somewhere around here. I got it somewhere too on 45. You do? Oh that's dope. Tom Tom Club, bro. Yep. Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that's 1983. Damn.
SPEAKER_05We don't even got it. Maybe I should check it out. Maybe I should check out the original song, huh? Yeah. Tom Tom Club.
SPEAKER_06I got y'all. What's the name of the song, Rick? Tom Tom Club. Genius of Love. Genius of Love. There you go.
SPEAKER_03Check it out on YouTube. It's like a cartoon. What you gonna do? Put the kid out of here. I'm gonna have some fun. So there's a remake to that. Everybody remade that. No, but this was um no, this was back in the 80s though. Oh shit. Yeah, I have a copy of it. But we'll we'll do we'll do something with uh sampling. Um it's from the Sugar Hill label. Oh, okay. I think the Sugar Hill Yeah, the Sugar Hill label.
SPEAKER_06They would loop the two records together and find the breaks they wanted and recorded straight off the room.
SPEAKER_03They'll play the best parts of the record. And then they'll get two of them and then they'll keep it keep it going, keep that you know, like sixteen bars going, thirty-two bars of a dope ass beat. Yep.
SPEAKER_06So he had to be on point mixing the two loops together the whole time you're rapping.
SPEAKER_03A couple scratches here and there.
SPEAKER_06I do like the fact on that song too, where there was a pause and you're you came right in with the fucking right in the pocket, dude.
SPEAKER_03You know, that little 16th.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, he later was quiet and just came right back in the pocket. I'm like, hell yeah. Thank you, thank you. A lot of advanced MC in from you. Hell yeah. I appreciate it.
SPEAKER_05And it's nothing but up, nothing but up.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, dude. I see it.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, definitely uh encourage you to keep going, man. Uh I love that you're doing collabals with a lot of people out here in the Midwest. I love it. I love it. You know, I love that now shit from all of that work. Now you're being you're gonna be opening up or uh, you know, being with uh bone thugs and harmonies. You know, so this is where the old school meets the new school, yeah. Yeah, dude. Yeah. Yeah. So we're learning, I'm learning a lot because artists you had mentioned.
SPEAKER_05You gotta show them who who's running the 219. Just the 219. They can have like they're legends.
SPEAKER_06I ain't they can have this 99.
SPEAKER_02Tell wish to drop a solo already.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, no, I don't want no beef with them. No beef.
SPEAKER_06Nothing but love. That's what's up, dude. Yeah, man. Like I said, show out, dude. Maybe they'll take you on another tour with them or something. Be like, you never know the opportunities that can come for.
SPEAKER_05I don't even know if they're gonna see me performing. They might get there two, three hours late. Who the fuck knows? You know how rappers be coming out. You never know. Never know what the opportunities hold. Never know. So just you know, be ready. Buy tickets and find out, though.
SPEAKER_03There you go. How can they get a hold of you for tickets?
SPEAKER_05Tythrax on Instagram. Uh well, Tythrax219 is my main Instagram. I got a second Instagram, Tythrax. So it's pretty much the same shit. You can find it. Just look up Tythrax. Uh, everywhere else, Tythrax, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Dope shit. You got any uh shouts out you want to send?
SPEAKER_05Oh yeah. Shout out motherfucking CO, Pink Skies, uh Billy Omen, Omen City, uh D Lo, Ghostie, Timmy Twisted, shout out you guys, Rick Rock, T Dub, Dirtbag Johnny, uh Below the Surface. Shout out Fucking Scrubs over at the greats, along with 70s, Yoda Rock, all of them. Shout out everybody, bruh. Everybody. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Hell yeah.
SPEAKER_06I gotta call the dude from Black Sunrise. Don't let me forget.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_05Hey, you gotta call the dude from Black Sunrise. Don't forget.
SPEAKER_03I'm gonna call him on the way out of here.
SPEAKER_06What time are we looking at, Rick?
SPEAKER_03Oh, we we got about uh seven minutes. We got time to do shout-outs.
SPEAKER_06Okay, um go ahead, TW got any shout outs.
SPEAKER_02Man, of course, always I want to give a shout-out to you guys for having me here. Titan Rats for being here. We appreciate it. Of course, of course, thank you guys. My wife, my kids, everybody for holding it down for me. Uh my guy, the default keys, you know, keep doing what you're doing. And all them artists out there, like we talk about time and time again. Don't let nobody tell you shit. Just keep doing what you're doing and have a good time with it. And you know, as long as you're enjoying it, that's all that fucking matters.
SPEAKER_06Rig Rock, you got shout-outs.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, um, let me send a shout-out to uh Pony Boy. Uh thank you for coming down for the interview. We've had some uh some issues like we had today with the iRig again. So I want to apologize for that to all the audiences and anybody that was checking it out. Um also um Smorgensborg, I want to send a shout out to them. Uh we just had a show with them recently. Oh, yeah, yeah. Hopefully, look forward to get some in their music so we could uh do another, I want to do another mixtape with all smorgasborg shit. So um I'm looking forward to that. Uh I'm looking forward to uh making the new uh below the surface uh mixtape volume two. Coming soon. Coming real soon. Um check me out also on uh MixCloud Solder House DJs. Uh you can check out all my mixes I got on there. Uh we'll be looking forward to uh going on live soon, and we'll be representing the Midwest on that motherfucker.
SPEAKER_07Hell yeah. Hell yeah.
SPEAKER_06Oh man, I want to give shout out to Ty Thrax for coming through and ripping it once again. Of course. Thank you, sir. Thank you. He is proof that there isn't Don't stop, dude. Just keep going. Yes, sir.
SPEAKER_03That's right. Don't stop, man.
SPEAKER_06Don't uh have any limitations. He showed you right now all the different that alternative track we heard. We said it sounded like alternative. Yeah. The West Coast type, West Coast type uh track he had. Um the song with him and uh Tank Tank.
SPEAKER_05That sounds some country rap shit.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, don't play.
SPEAKER_05That was a good thing.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, so it was like a little bit of everything into Smorgusborg, too.
SPEAKER_03Dope shit.
SPEAKER_06Shout out to Smorgusborg. Shout out to Smorgus Boy, shout out the greats. Um, shout out Josh Tree, man. Josh Tree. She's the right Josh Tree. He's not here tonight with us, but he's doing his thing. Um shout out to Righteous, man. Keep pushing, dude, keep doing everything. Hell yeah. Shout out to the Falke's. Me and him are dropping a new single.
SPEAKER_03We'll be doing an interview with him soon this season. Hell yeah.
SPEAKER_06Hell yeah. We got a new track called Mind Over Matter. Super dope song. I'm on some like slick Rick type shit on this thing. That's pretty cool.
SPEAKER_03Oh man, what else track?
SPEAKER_06Um Master Groove, shout out to Master Groove, always holding the show.
SPEAKER_03Shout out to Master Groove, hell yeah. For the stickers, the slip mats. Yep. Uh all your uh promotional needs.
SPEAKER_06Yep, yep, yep. I'm off this whole entire week. I'll be getting up with just one. Trying to knock out this Halloween album. Shout out Jess One.
SPEAKER_05Shout out Just One.
SPEAKER_06I gotta get over there and start knocking out this Halloween album, dude. It's already ready to go. But um, yeah, man, just keep shout out to all the listeners, man. We're gonna keep doing what we do next or this Saturday coming up.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, check us out.
SPEAKER_06Region Records. Region Records, how we have them. How we have live show, dude. I'm super excited to fucking see this and record it and all that good stuff, man.
SPEAKER_03Good shit. Oh, yeah. Alright. I wish I could make it.
SPEAKER_06It's all good, dude.
SPEAKER_03You'll be killing Pokemon. Yeah, we'll get some, we'll get some more uh we'll do some more live shit over there. Yes, sir.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, we'll end it off correctly, man. We had Tythrax today killing it. Oh, yeah. Thank you guys for having me again. Thank you. It's your boy Dirtbag Johnny.
SPEAKER_03Um DJ Rick Rock.
SPEAKER_02It's your boy T Dub and with it being a cross down weekend. I just want to say one more thing. Fuck them scrubs. That's why we took it. God damn, dude. So violent.
SPEAKER_06South side motherfuckers. All right, we out of here.
SPEAKER_01Peace out. Peace y'all be safe.