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Indy Uchiha / Synd Rome / Co Jack / local hip hop Artist / Live performance / Tha Culture / Local hip Hop
Yeah. Below the surface. Check it out.
SPEAKER_09Below the surface. Below. Below the surface. Below the surface. Deep down below, down below, underwater, underwater. Thousands of meters down below the underground underground. Flies, flies. Underground, on the ground. Hip high, hip high. Below the surface, hip fly.
SPEAKER_04Below the surface.
SPEAKER_02And you don't stop.
SPEAKER_11Hell yeah.
SPEAKER_06From the basement.
SPEAKER_11Check it out.
SPEAKER_02Yuri Bosho Lane.
SPEAKER_11Shout out.
SPEAKER_02Much like Yuri Bosholane for that intro. Hell yeah. All beat boxing. So super dope.
SPEAKER_11Hell yeah.
SPEAKER_02Um before we get this kicked off. But rest in power, Rob Bass, man. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Forefathers of hip-hop. And one of the coldest tractors to get the party started. You hear that song at any barbecue, Sunday barbecue house party, it doesn't matter. You hear Rob Bass playing.
SPEAKER_11That's right. That's a throwback classic right there. Yep, man. So let's get back.
SPEAKER_02Yep. Let's get it kicked off, right, man. I'm your boy, Dirtback Johnny, in a place to be.
SPEAKER_11Um, DJ Rick Rock in the rear with the gear. It's your boy T Duck.
SPEAKER_02It's me, the mighty Josh Tree. The mighty Josh Tree. And we got special guest in the building. Yeah, yeah. Introduce yourself, man.
SPEAKER_17We're just we're just uh traveling by these Indiana streets, you know what I'm saying? Uh syndrome. S-Y-N-D-R-O-M-E. You know what it is. Third of the Kingsman, half a king nerd. I podcast sometimes and shit too. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_15Syndrome. Hey, y'all know what it is. It is Indy Yuchiha. Uchiha. You Chiha Fools. Yeah what it is. Uh TCB records recording artist, half a king nerd, half of the link up podcast. Uh, I forgot about that. Yeah, you did. That kind of hurt my feelings.
SPEAKER_17We don't get real in here real quick. That's been years. I feel like we're separated.
SPEAKER_15What the hell happened? What? Divorced in 2013.
SPEAKER_17Still holding on, still holding on.
SPEAKER_15Very happy and anxiety written, you know what I'm saying, to be here. Like this. This is legendary right now.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, man. I'm glad you guys came through. We had a live event plan. A lot of plans fell through, but it worked out beautifully. We got you guys down here. Yes, sir. And you'll be back for another live event. And we'll make the show all about you guys this time. So that's cool.
SPEAKER_15Because you know, can't trust the YM. Sometimes you just gotta stick it with the OG. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_17Shout out to the Yans, guys. The opinions of Indy Yuchiha are his and his alone. I fuck with y'all, okay?
SPEAKER_02That's funny.
SPEAKER_06Man, but speaking of legends and speaking of live performances, I just gotta say these two, yes, Indy and Rome, Rome and Indy, these guys just hands down, some uh some local fucking talent that is is bound to hit the the streams. So uh you know these guys every time every time I see them, it's a more they're the they're the ones to watch at the show. Uh we were at the Pink Skies Papa number four.
SPEAKER_17Shout out to CO.
SPEAKER_06Shout out CO. These guys killed it again. Again and again. Oh yeah. Yeah, it's it's always it's always a pleasure to watch you guys in in action. So, you know, keep up the good and uh and rock on fellas.
SPEAKER_15Yeah, rock today in honor of Christopher and the Pink Skies movement.
SPEAKER_11All right.
SPEAKER_17Yeah, we appreciate that though. We appreciate uh the kind words. And yeah, man, we've been doing this for a while, and um I I hope that some of that practice and repetition comes across in uh the performances.
SPEAKER_02So definitely, dude. Like that's that's one thing that I did notice that stuck out with you guys when you guys took over and did your spot. You took over the whole event, dude. Like you made it yours, it was dope as hell. Hype.
SPEAKER_08I remember I walked up to you and I was like, packing the Mac in the back of the act.
SPEAKER_02That was so memorable, man.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, coming with the style and the lyrics. Like you guys, you guys know how to you know throw it all together for the complete package.
SPEAKER_15That's a lot of years of practice, you know what I'm saying, when it comes to that. I've I've been active since uh what 2002 is when I started. You know, so it's rapping O2? Yeah, O2. Jesus. Yeah, so it it's a lot of practices, a lot of bad shows, a lot of bad performances. You know the funny thing is uh that last pink skies, I believe. I I forgot two verses. But you would never know. You would never know it.
SPEAKER_17Yeah, you got you got you got stuck, you got stuck on a couple verses, but yeah. We're again, we've been doing this for hours.
SPEAKER_15We know how to we know how to jump through and work it the right way, even when something like that happens. But yeah, that was we came and did the pink skies. I was off of a 48-hour straight shift, you know what I'm saying? Two hours of sleep. Came up the uh set up with Hollow Game Bug, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_04Shout out to Bug.
SPEAKER_15Definitely. Uh, and just we just we just rock out, man, because it's something about the like I had just got off work. It's something about the vibes, dude. It's the vibes there, and like I could be dead tired, and I it might just be the community. You you pull up there, you know what I'm saying? I start seeing everybody get there, you you pop a show love, I start getting energy. Next thing I know, I'm hopping around, dancing in the street. It's it's just something about those vibes, and I think that's one of the reasons why we do what we do is you know, it's just a great feeling. For sure. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, the energy's definitely there in the building when you reach when you reach the destination of uh what's it called? Um It was called Create a Space Place. Yeah, dude. It's a suburban smart like venue, but all the heads are there, everybody's fucking linking up, networking.
SPEAKER_06That show was the last one because they uh they sold the building or they're selling it. We're gonna move it. We're gonna move it around. I was supposed to find it all right. We're gonna move it around.
SPEAKER_17We gotta keep that going. The pink skies fan. Like you said, it's for the heads, man. The pink skies event is for the heads. And for the kids. Yeah.
SPEAKER_11The kids, the fucking kids. For the kids.
SPEAKER_15I don't know how I feel about uh Marie's daughter running around singing Tesla, though.
SPEAKER_10Why? Wait a minute.
SPEAKER_15You don't think that song is for the kids? No, but now she's running around talking about she's addicted to white girls.
SPEAKER_17See, but that was that was you again, though. Snorting hope. That's crazy.
SPEAKER_15Well, music music. I am addicted to music, it's kind of my high, you know. Okay, okay. But I can however you spin that, man.
SPEAKER_17That's cool.
SPEAKER_15I'm with you. I'm with you. I understand what addicts feel like because I understand what it is when I don't touch a mic and how I feel, and you know what I'm saying? And I can so I I can I can kind of feel how they feel and understand why why they relapse. I I've retired twice. It hasn't been. Wait a minute. I'm gonna call Cap.
SPEAKER_17I'm gonna call Cap. He is retired way more than twice. So much to the point that I had to rap about it a little bit. I was like, man, this guy wanna retire all the time, man. We're not the journey's not finished yet, man.
SPEAKER_02So keep pulling the jersey down from the rafters, putting it back up. Put it back up.
SPEAKER_17He keep he keep trying to pull the, and I'm like grabbing the rope, like, no, it's not going up yet.
SPEAKER_06But before you retire, how did you guys get into this? Like, how what inspired you to either start rapping or what brought you into music in general? Like, uh, I want to hear from each of you.
SPEAKER_15You you want to go first? Because you already know what mine is.
unknownWell, you go ahead and go first.
SPEAKER_15Depression. No. I think that's for a lot of people, though, for real. Umxiety. And an outlet. Like, I started uh I'm a couple of years older than him. Um I started in Ciphers in West Side High School parking lot. You know what I'm saying? Like walking up, not knowing. Shout out to uh James Worthy, you know what I'm saying, and all the buttons.
SPEAKER_17Shout out to Words, shout out to shout out to Rocky Smith, who used to be in them Cyphers too.
SPEAKER_15Hopping in them, it was my first time, hopped up, didn't know what a rap lyric was. My my first rap anything I owned was uh tag tank. Whoop, there it is. There you go. Uh uh my grandmother was really Christian, so it was crazy for me to get anything that had, you know what I'm saying, a parental advisory sticker on it. Respect, respect. My mom's the same way. Yeah, so like my my collection started with like MC Hammer, tag team, vanilla ice. Will Smith Will Smith Big Willie style was my shit. My cow was made from that. And then you got corrupted. I went up to uh Tri-City. You remember that uh grocery store all the way at the end? That's my old stomping ground. That used to sell the bootleg tapes. Yep. Store. Yeah, that's what it was called. The store. Got a hold of uh I still got tapes from there. I don't know. Got a hold of, you know what I'm saying? A little bit of the devil's lettuce called the chronic. Yeah. Oh shit.
SPEAKER_04Classic, classic.
SPEAKER_15And it was over with after that. I was just rapping everywhere I was going. But um, the person who actually taught me how to hone my craft was my dude Phoenix Mitchell. Um shout out to Phoenix. Yeah, he just got me, taught me what it was to actually write a bar. You know what I'm saying? Put everything in a bar. Because at then I was just rapping, it was just poems, just pages of just words, you know what I'm saying, together. Got me scripted. Uh I went to college, soccer scholarship. I was so privileged. It doesn't make any sense. Yeah, it's all right. I I might be Drake, to be honest with you. He said Drake.
SPEAKER_17He might be. Notice the heart on the side of his head that's melting. That's definitely some Drake shit.
SPEAKER_02At least the music's not on some Drake shit. Because I heard your shit, man. I don't know, man. How much are you really paying? No. I would not compare that.
SPEAKER_06So Drake's not your inspiration. We can we can cut him out.
SPEAKER_15No, you could probably say we'll talk about that in a second. No, you could probably get to that. You could probably say just posted something. Throw him in there a little bit. You could probably say Drake's my inspiration, because my inspiration is actually Joe Budden. That's who inspired me. You know what I'm saying? He kind of birthed Drake. So it's it falls along that line, you know what I'm saying? Trickle down. Yeah, it trickles down because the we can hate on Drake all we want, but the honesty in the music is where it matters. And there's a lot of shit that he makes that I don't like, but I can't knock that he's not putting feelings because you're supposed to feel something.
SPEAKER_06And look at all the shit he's put out, too. Yeah.
SPEAKER_15Bro, I cannot put out four.
SPEAKER_11You're looking at it at face value, not personal ego, you know. Like I'm saying, I wouldn't do this.
SPEAKER_15If you sit down and listen, you're like, he has something to say. Okay, he's saying something. I just don't like the way he's singing it. Right. You know what I'm saying? That that may be that maybe, but everybody's not connected with something. He has his fan base, and he he fed, he fed every friggin' genre you could possibly feed with three projects. So he's good.
SPEAKER_17I don't care if you I kind of he's not just a rapper, though, now, guys. He's a pop star. It's true. Very, very true. It goes way beyond. Thank you for the clarification. It goes way beyond our our the this thing of ours, you know what I'm saying? He's a made man now. What would you say?
SPEAKER_11He's plugged big time.
SPEAKER_15We're gonna turn this into something else. What would y'all say the Midwest is? Like, be honest. And you're gonna understand where I go from with my next thing. What would you say?
SPEAKER_17What do you what do you I'm I'm can a little confused by the question? Like, what do you mean by that?
SPEAKER_15The the Midwest is a melting pot, right? The first thing is diversity, yeah. Yeah, you get diversity because of melting pot. All sounds come through here and recreate something, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_06So we're we're we're seeing all sides around us of the you know the north, the south, east, and west. Right.
SPEAKER_15So you're never gonna have one thing. The the best artists that come from here are gonna create, it's gonna be an amalgamation of everything, you know what I'm saying, when they come. If you look at somebody like Freddie Gibbs, he's experimented, you know what I'm saying? You had different sounds through everything that he does. Uh that's just growth. That that's gonna happen. But you you get in inspired by what you do. That's something similar to what Drake does. So when I go through with inspirations, you go from anime intros, you go like I really love uh I would just sit and just listen to anime intros all day long. You know what I'm saying? Okay, a lot of my inspiration comes from that. Uh Joe Button, fabulous. I was never a huge Jay-Z fan. I respect Jay-Z. He has some bangers. I'm the same way. But I'm right there with y'all.
SPEAKER_17I wasn't the one who was a little I wasn't the one who was Ho Vinger around. I wasn't a huge little main fan.
SPEAKER_05Okay, alright. Yeah, I don't think I actually actually purchased a full Jay-Z album. Oh my god. There's songs. Reasonable doubt.
SPEAKER_02There are songs that I bought that I like, but never a whole album.
SPEAKER_15Now I went back as I got older to understand the appreciation for stuff when I was looking for different rhyme patterns and different stuff like that to see how you put stuff together. So I understood that. But it's never been like, oh my god, he's the greatest, you know what I'm saying, rapper alive. A lot of the people that I'm I'm inspired by, people never even heard of. You know what I'm saying? Like, like right now, my my favorite two rappers right now out like above anybody are Connor Price and contrast. Yeah. Okay. Wow. Both of them are con. That's crazy. So it's like just what they do with their music. I I was a I was a huge Hobson fanatic. Uh Tech Nine, Dragon, you know what I'm saying? I live and die by DMX. You know, I get to I with DMX, I buy DMX vinyls and gift them to the engineers when we're doing albums and stuff like that. That's how much, you know what I'm saying, that inspired me. But my my inspiration comes from never stop being inspired. Because when you stop being inspired, your growth stops. So whether it's Freddie Giz, whether it's CO, whether it's Hotto, whether, you know what I'm saying, it's you guys, whether it's this man, because he challenges me every day, you know what I'm saying, to keep improving what I'm doing, changing my rhyme scheme, looking at how to write music differently. I'm gonna keep doing that. So it's always gonna change. But like, man, kind of price contrast, snow the product, who is the greatest female rapper of all time in my opinion. God damn. That's what I was on, and then I I came up in an area where all that shit was looked at like you're lame or you're you know what I'm saying, you're a nerd because you're looking at this type of stuff and we just want to listen to CCA and the grind family. Yeah.
SPEAKER_17So which I which I love though.
SPEAKER_05So man, I said on the last podcast, there's I still bump CCA to grind Jill all the time. Like when I go to the gym, I put on that shit when I'm in the gym because it motivates me more than some of the stuff I'm hearing nowadays and whatnot. And it also brings back feelings and emotions. More relevant, yeah. But at the same time, when I'm out doing other shit, I listen to things that you would have never thought I listened to back in the, you know, like some of this newer styles that are just all combined. Like there's one guy called Reddy Red. He sounds like so you know who he is. Thank you. He sounds like it's like ska and rap mixed together. It's just you know, things like that, even like Halsey and shit like that. Like things I never thought I would listen to that my kids actually turn me on to, and I could feel some of the emotion in the songs and whatnot, and that's what gets me into it.
SPEAKER_15And shout out to the real legend from this area that gets no love for anything he does, and is and is the creative spark for almost everything that happens around here. Shout out to G Scott. Okay, yeah, shout out.
SPEAKER_17Shout out to Scotty. He's um he definitely inspires me even now. Um his style is like um it's a it's a lot of the the new age with the melodies and stuff, though, but he is rapping, rapping. Oh yeah. He is Peter Parker, he's Spider-Man. Talking about He's the Spider-Man of the Midwest. Marvel doesn't survive without some of the wildest shit, and I'd be like, yo, I am an MC, and I would have never thought of that. That is fly. Like, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_15I got a feature he did for me on my album that I'm scared to put out.
SPEAKER_02Oh man.
SPEAKER_17Oh man. Oh man, you better put that shit out.
SPEAKER_02I mean, there's been lots of controversial stuff said before. Look at the Grind family, the the song that got their record deal, you know what I mean, obsolete, which everybody knows what I'm talking about. On that hungry hungry song, right? Yeah. That line, not even gonna repeat it. That line right there, we talked about it in a barber shop one time, and they were like, Would you do that for your boy? And he was like, Hell no, you're gonna have to kill both of us. So yeah. So it's it's all about, and there's Biggie. Biggie said a lot of fucking crazy shit. Yes, yes, wild shit. Wild shit, dude.
SPEAKER_15But wild shit. It's it's wild.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I say wild shit all the time.
SPEAKER_06Is it freedom of speech or is it in the privilege?
SPEAKER_02A pre a premeditated back in the day was a lot of uh tough guy shit. Like we were we're tough guys, we ain't never gonna say no shit like that. Now it's a lot more like, you know what I mean? Well, I'm still that same way, but I mean you can't say certain shit now. I don't know. I'm I don't know what I'm trying to say, but you know what I'm trying to say. Tough guy shit. I know exactly what you're saying. It was an attitude in the fucking 90s. You were fucking going against the world.
SPEAKER_06Everybody was on a battle tips, you know, everybody was ready to battle at any moment because it's some outlandish shit, right? Somebody could come from you know any direction and be like, you know, enter your cipher and start battling you.
SPEAKER_17Right. Anybody, so you had to be ready.
SPEAKER_02And now you can't say certain shit. That's what I was getting at. Now you can't say certain shit, and everybody's all cringe when you say certain words and all that.
SPEAKER_17That's a public perception thing, though.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and I don't give a fuck. You say whatever.
SPEAKER_06If it's freestyle, you can say what the fuck ever you want.
SPEAKER_05I don't care if it's written. I feel freedom of speech is freedom of speech. You gotta take it for what it is, and I feel that it's sight right now is too pussyfied. That's the only way I'm gonna do it.
SPEAKER_06And what perspective is it being written from? You know, you don't know.
SPEAKER_17Hey, listen, say what you're gonna say, but the consequences are gonna come behind it. So just be prepared to deal with it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's it. Um, so you were inspired. Uh, much like Indy, um, my mom wasn't trying to let me listen to uh anything that had the B-word in it, was saying nigga, or you know what I'm saying, anything with cussing in it. So um for sure, Will Smith was one of my inspirations. And it it kind of it kind of fell be um like it transferred the inspiration because you know the Fresh Prince of Bel Air was out and now he's acting and now he becomes this big movie star. So it's like, oh my god, this guy who who's rapping, he's got these fly raps that he don't even cuss in. Now he's this big movie star. You know what I'm saying? So that was um that definitely was a big inspiration. But I probably let me think. I I I know I started rapping it had to be like right around like freshman year. That was when like I started meeting people. I I went to uh I also went to Westside High School, shot to Gary Westside. Um I started meeting people that were putting me on the different music. This was around 99, 2000, and this was um I heard the Slim Shady LP and I had Never heard like I had heard rap before, like I had heard everybody heard uh G thing, you know what I'm saying? Like you heard you heard certain songs that you know I'm saying was playing on the radio or whatever that your mom couldn't necessarily stop you from from intaking, you know what I'm saying? Couldn't stop Eminem. Listen, MM, well at that point in time, like I'm I'm I'm like seventh, eighth grade, I'm a pretty good writer. I had got into writing poetry, you know what I'm saying, and a lot of my poetry was about, you know, uh like uh being in a ghetto of sorts, destitute circumstances and coming out of it. Um but when I heard Eminem, I was like, I ain't never really heard none of these other rappers rap quite like this, you know what I'm saying? And really most of it probably was that I wasn't exposed to it. You know what I'm saying? Because it was other people around that time that was rapping like that though. But I was like, yo, this motherfucker is on MTV doing some wild shit, G. Nine inch nails through shit there. This is crazy, yo. But this sound fly though.
SPEAKER_05So um and he still actually had lyrics he had to change on that album so the label would put it out.
SPEAKER_17Oh, yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_05So that's that's the crazy part. You hear the craziest shit that he said, there was crazier shit that the label was like, this ain't gonna happen. Listen, I believe it.
SPEAKER_17He had been, because you know, after after all of this, you know, when you get a little older and you got more access to going back and and picking up stuff. Like on Infinite, he wasn't really on that, but on that Slim Shady EP.
SPEAKER_05That's when it started.
SPEAKER_17Yeah, it's like he kinda he kinda like leaned into the shock value of it. Like the original Batman's able to. Oh yeah, yeah. The original, yes. Yes. Um but he kind of leaned into it, which that's that's fine. You know what I'm saying? I'm I've grown to appreciate more of the reality rap than uh you know the video game type violence and you know stuff like that, though. But at that point in time, what?
SPEAKER_10No, no, no.
SPEAKER_15I thought we were gonna tell the truth on this podcast, but it's good. Wow. Anime, anime man, don't do that, though.
SPEAKER_17Don't do that. Just because you want to rap Naruto in every on every uh track, you know what I'm saying? But um, yeah, so um definitely Eminem. Um my greatest inspiration though is probably Lupe Fiasco. Okay. That's um I just feel like it is as close to perfection in rap as it is. That is a mainstream appeal, uh supremely sophisticated lyrical style, uh the ability to uh captivate and use he uses some of the coldest samples to tell the stories as well, you know what I'm saying? Like it's not necessarily just it's a full picture with everything that he's doing in the music, so uh that's probably my greatest inspiration, but um I feel like Nas is probably one of the best that I've ever heard. Nas is like right, Nas is like um the Wu-Tang clan is the entire thing. Ghost is my favorite. Mine's too. Ghostface is my favorite, but the entire Wu-Tang clan, like um what what they've done for um me personally is is crazy. But yeah, when I heard Reasonable Doubt, that changed my life, though. That was a dope album. I'm telling you, hey, I'm not gonna lie, like, I I know y'all, you know, y'all had a little Jay-Z thing going though, but I heard Reasonable Doubt, it changed my life.
SPEAKER_15I don't I don't I don't like this. I feel like I'm the wife.
SPEAKER_17I was a junior in high school, bro, bumping the blueprint. Are y'all serious?
SPEAKER_15I the blueprint was so iconic at the time, Ryan.
SPEAKER_17I remember, bro.
SPEAKER_15That is I I remember I was I was walking through the surge, and it was a it was a dude I've never seen in my life walking with a walkman. And I I go home for the second half of the day, then I come back and pick my girlfriend up, you know what I'm saying, walk her home or whatever. He gave me his Walkman and was like, listen to this.
SPEAKER_17Listen to this. I'm like, oh, somebody did that to me too, and I was in school.
SPEAKER_15And I was like, I'm going home. He was like, just just bring it back. I'll eat you right here. You need to listen to this.
SPEAKER_05Bro, y'all gonna hate me. I bought that Nokia phone that had the blueprint on it, that blue one that was on the word check.
SPEAKER_15I deleted that. You were part of the as soon as I got it. You were part of the policy. You're a part of the reason why music is where it is.
SPEAKER_17I had to get it for a good price, though. You had to get it for a good price, man.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I got a good key about because there's gonna be some fights going on here. That's funny, bro.
SPEAKER_02I think during during the when the towers fell or whatever, I was into a lot of trip hop. So I think Dr. Octagon was out at the time. Okay. Um shit, I was still listening to like Brother Lynch Hung, Tech Nine, Tech Nine Brother Lynch. So I was into a lot of like hieroglyphics, but I was more into the shock value, like you're talking about with M, but in a different way. It was more like some like trip hop. Yes, some outlandish shit being said, like we were talking, and that was my shit. My buddy got in my ride and he's like, dude, turn this whack ass shit off, man. I'm like, what?
unknownLike what?
SPEAKER_02This is Dr. Octagon, man. No, that shit's garbage. I'm like, damn.
SPEAKER_15But yeah. No, and the funny thing is, by the time Towers filled, I was, I was, I was, I was a pop head then. Like I was walking around with like boy band shirts on. I was trying to be whatever the girls were into. Like I didn't that they weren't in. In 01? Yeah, in 01. In 01. We had like little them little black boy bands and stuff they were putting together in 01. Yeah, pretty much pretty riggy, beats. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I used to make my girl mixtapes with the just uh talk. Justin was buzzing, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, Justin, yeah, for sure. You know what I'm saying? I'd be walking around. I was the one riding around in an 88th celebrity bupping Crimea River.
unknownRight.
SPEAKER_15Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_06Excuse me, young lady. Do you need a plus one to the InSync concert?
SPEAKER_15Facts. Facts, bro. Like, I don't know. I was just into stuff that was moving people and like the dance and the choreography. And it's funny, because like when we grew up, a lot of hip hop had that. And then it was looked at as lame, or you know what I'm saying, off when it when we went through that gangster rap phase, but I was still on that. So I ended up trying to get that from somewhere else, even though I was into, you know what I'm saying, other genres of music. I went through a real hard. That's interesting. I went through a real hard rock. Yeah, me too. Rock rock phase too. Slipknot, Lincoln Park, you know what I'm saying, all that.
SPEAKER_05Go back, I Guns N' Roses and Metallica, 311.
SPEAKER_02I think it was us. It was Head PE, System of a Down, Um, Korn. And then me and Rick at the time, we're not. Don't forget about body count. We weren't doing body count. We weren't doing hip hop interviews. We were doing rock interviews at the time. So we were uh interviewing a lot of rock bands. I think Rick Rock interviewed Lincoln Park at the time.
SPEAKER_11Channel 16 East Chicago. It was Evil TV.
SPEAKER_02Evil TV. All rock. Oh man. The local bands from Restaurant. Elicit, Standing 8. Yeah, Standing 8. And these are people that they I don't even think they're bands anymore, but at the time they were killing it and shit. We were in the mosh pits. And the people with their teeth knocked out and shit. Remember that? Yeah. And they found the tooth on the floor. But we had took a break from hip-hop for a for quite a while. I say like at least two or three months.
SPEAKER_15Because it wasn't nothing there. It wasn't nothing important enough to try. Especially in this area, especially in this area or even what was being uh put out in the mainstream that was viable enough for you to be able to be interested in because everything was underground, but nobody wanted to nobody was interested in hearing what underground artists had to say.
SPEAKER_17I I get what you're saying, and the the people that were interesting around this area, you know, they had they caught cases, and by that time it was like Yeah, a lot of people were going down. Yeah, it was it was Yeah, there was a change.
SPEAKER_15It was that so or I remember my first show with uh Seesaw, Finger Roll, Freddie Gibbs. Seesaw was a Rob Sway. And I remember Freddie Gibbs down there, and I didn't believe him. Like Fred, I'm sorry, I'm just gonna tell the truth, bro. I didn't believe him when we was down in Indianapolis with G.I. Jane. You know what I'm saying? She had through a showcase. And he said, Shout out to Jane. You're gonna know my fucking name. I'm Freddie motherfucking Gibbs. You know what I'm saying? Y'all gonna stop shitting on me, man, and and popping off. Didn't get to perform, got bad, you know what I'm saying, walked out, and I'm like, this idiot.
SPEAKER_02Freddie Gibbs was down here doing it. 15 years later. Rick Gilla. And I remember at the time I didn't even know who Freddie Gibbs was, and I was like, eh, I ain't going over there. I don't know Freddie Gibbs, and I didn't really care for Rick Jill, but like I said, that this was at the time of the attitude where I didn't give a fuck. I would battle anybody and whoever.
SPEAKER_15Oh, you gotta, you gotta, I'm sorry, you gotta say it right. Grammy winner Freddie Gibbs.
SPEAKER_02Grammy World Winner, Freddie Gibbs. Now I even own I own LPs by him in my basement that I paid a lot of money for. And I spent them on a regular. So like I said, I got quite a few features.
SPEAKER_05That's my bad, bro.
SPEAKER_02I should have came down here and introduced myself.
SPEAKER_15Hey, look, um shit. I have an autographed copy of Alfredo. If anybody, if anybody's looking for it, come out at me.
SPEAKER_11There you go. There it is, right here. Um below the surface.
SPEAKER_02Is Alchemist signed it too? Because that's you know, Hyrule will probably jump on that. That's his boy, dude. Alchemist.
SPEAKER_17Nah, for sure.
SPEAKER_15Yo, I could I can get a McDonald's cup and say Alchemist signed it.
SPEAKER_02Oh, man.
SPEAKER_15Boy.
SPEAKER_02You guys want to play some music? Yeah.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, let's go ahead and play some music right here.
SPEAKER_15You know what? Um, we're gonna start on something new.
SPEAKER_11Alright.
SPEAKER_15Uh, me and my man, uh, it's crazy because we've been this this is my actual brother. This is my brother-in-law. He was married to my sister. Uh, it's crazy that we went to the same school and all that. We didn't even meet each other until after he was getting ready to marry my sister. Facts. Didn't know he rapped. One day somebody told me he rapped. That's hoping to come to the crib. He recorded a verse, but we're not playing that. Because that's trash. Um I don't know about trash. Oh, okay. I I would I was going through a Game of Thrones phase, and everything I was rapping has something to do with Game of Thrones. That's alright. So we made a Game of Thrones song.
SPEAKER_04I like your style, man. I don't know why, but I like your style. There ain't nothing wrong with that. Whatever grabs you as inspiration at the time.
SPEAKER_17Yeah, listen, I was just watching it. Season eight hadn't came out yet.
SPEAKER_15Yeah.
SPEAKER_17When we recorded this. So I was in the midst of watching it. He's like, He's giving away spoilers.
SPEAKER_04You're looking at a reverse happened. I didn't see that episode yet. What the fuck yeah? We're gonna make this song about this album.
SPEAKER_15But I'm gonna do this. We got a collab album that's getting ready to come out. Um, we're gonna perform this song for the first time at the Adidas show. You know what I'm saying? Um, that's what you're doing. That's what I'm doing. This song has never been heard anywhere before. Exclusive. I'm gonna go to the surface. So I'm gonna play uh smoke featuring Mr. King.
SPEAKER_11All right, let's go. Here we go.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_10Yes, sir.
SPEAKER_02Exclusive. Exclusive. I'm below the surface. Below the surface, right here. You just heard that shit. Dope shit, dude. Hell yeah.
SPEAKER_06So do you guys have like a group name that you go by when you're together or King Nerd.
SPEAKER_15King Nerd? Yeah, because he's one third of the Kingsman. You know what I'm saying? My label's called Nerd Mix. Oh, okay. So we just do it together, King Nerd.
SPEAKER_06King Nerd. In the building.
SPEAKER_15Yeah. It's just like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. I ain't I guess I'm what they call a timeline rapper because everything that I write comes from what I'm consuming. And you know what I'm saying, immediately podcasting. Um I'm a co-host on A Plus Opinions. Um Big Nerd Geek Pops. Nerdy Geek Pop Poacher Podcast. And I reviewed What up, Adam? I review a lot of stuff. So it ends up in a lot of the music I do. So like somebody sent me that beat. I reviewed the Mortal Kombat 2 trailer. And the next thing I know, I was like, smoke's in it. You're like a time capsule. Yeah. Right. So I I came up with the hook, no smoke, and then I watched a lot of anime. It was an anime I was into called uh senses to be a hero that I related to a lot. So that ended up being the verse. Sent it to him, and they did the rest.
SPEAKER_02Super dope, dude. I would have never known none of that. Well, I'm not big on and my kids. Big on anime. He be talking to him, and I'll be watching shit with him. I'm like, damn, this is dope.
SPEAKER_15Y'all want to make real money? Do an anime podcast. That's part of it. Okay. But no, I'll be for real. Like the nerd geek pop culture shit is what's popular culture now. Um like it pays my bills. Like, me just watching Dragon Ball and writing a song about Dragon Ball gets me empty. Gets me performing at Comic Cons and selling merch. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_05Speaking of merch then, so what kind of uh merch should I be 3D printing to sell?
SPEAKER_15Right, right, right. Anime anime figures. No, lightsabers. Lightsaber hilts. $500 for a lightsaber hilt. That's where the money's at.
SPEAKER_17Damn, for real? Them motherfuckers, $500?
SPEAKER_15Yes. Yes. Have you go to Disney? Go to Disney and put together a lightsaber. And see how much it's gonna cost you. But no, it's it's cool because. And and when stuff touches you, you know what I'm saying? It moves you. Um whether it's stuff you intake through social media, through movies, through comic books, and everything like that, it's a part of who you are. And if you can somehow present that out, it's better telling people. You know what I'm saying? People get into what you're into. And I I noticed that my fan base rose immensely when I just started letting out, hey, this nervous shit is cool. Like, you know what I'm saying? You don't always have to have a uh 22 Baretta on you with a legal trigger and a 30-round clip. True. Uh you can have a shuriken, you know what I'm saying, and a headband.
SPEAKER_06And a lightsaber. And still.
SPEAKER_17Hey, you know what? That was that definitely was a shift. That was a shift when it was a huge shift. Well, you started the sci-fiology. That was definitely a shift. He like, he started just leaning into it. And I told him because I thought it was, I thought it was dope. I I feel like anything that's creative, that um, that that still touches back to home base of, you know what I'm saying, what we're doing, but it's honest. As long as it's creative and you're being honest and being true to yourself, then you know what I'm saying? I feel like you should lean into it. And that that definitely that definitely was uh a a turning point. Um That's crazy you saying that though.
SPEAKER_15That's exactly what happened, bro. Is it's that I I remember. I went from That was crazy, I literally went from uh letting them all out in the kitchen to your forehead, you know what I'm saying, to and saying random crazy ad libs and songs and just talk, you know, because the most gangster, the most gangster shit I ever seen in my life, right? Is uh jump no juices. Like when I'd have seen YNs, you know what I'm saying, pull up and start yelling out Naruto phrases before they jump somebody because they feel like it makes them more powerful. When I when I watch these fight scenes and these animes and stuff like that, and it actually they're actually putting wing chun or you know what I'm saying stuff into it. And then I see Method Man talking about, man, did you see that fight scene with Naruto and Sasuke fighting this? You know, it reminded me of the five deadly venoms and stuff like that. And I'm why and I'm like, oh, these same dudes is making this content, you know what I'm saying, or the ones growing up consuming the same stuff that I consume, they just found a different way to express it. So when I started looking at it under that light, I'm like, this shit is cool as hell.
SPEAKER_06Okay. There's all kinds of inspiration out there. It's just a matter of where you find it. Or how you're gonna find your inspiration.
SPEAKER_05And people are gonna follow it if you're being real with it. That's the thing. If you're being real with it, people are gonna feel that and they're gonna follow that. So being you is what's gonna help bring the fans and people to you because there's nothing speaks more truth than real.
SPEAKER_15You can't force it. No, but I am from Gary, Indiana, so we do get in the ghetto shit. It ain't all right. You know what I'm saying? It ain't all Pokemon and Iron Man. I just think that's a good idea.
SPEAKER_06No, you're yeah, you gotta mix it up a little bit. Right, right. Variety's the spice of life.
SPEAKER_05I think it's like being more well-rounded that way, though.
SPEAKER_15I I'm not even gonna lie. I feel like I'm I told her I was gonna be humble. Fuck it. I feel like I'm one of the most versatile artists out here. I'm not one of the most lyrical, I'm not the best rapper, I'm not the best artist, but you can put me on anything, and you're gonna get an A plus, you know what I'm saying, performance. It might not, it might not get you on the honor roll on a Dean's list, you know what I'm saying? I might not be one of them levels, but I'm going to excel whatever you do, you know what I'm saying, to a certain point. If you don't believe me, that's hot on.
SPEAKER_05And it's gonna be felt.
SPEAKER_02I feel like any from uh Gary, Indiana is definitely versatile as well, man. Um E dot battle. James Worthy. James Worthy is so underrated. A lot of people don't know DJ K Caesar used to be a battle rapper. He used to be a battle rapper. K Caesar. There's a few cats I battled back in the day. They were from out here solo. Nightmare G. These are a cat which I'm talking about. I'm talking about way back in the day. Short Fuse. Shout out to Short Fuse. The Gatekeepers. Short Fuse, by the way.
SPEAKER_15Short Fuse, by the way, dropped one of the illest uh songs ever. Shotown State of Mind. Also a fellow TCB artist.
SPEAKER_02Damn, yeah, dude. I mean me. I'm from the G. Um, and like I said, a lot of the stuff we talk about ain't all fucking gangbang and shooting, drug dealing, and all that shit.
SPEAKER_15And he's not from the G, but he does need a mention because he's from EC the Reaper.
SPEAKER_02Welcome in the G. He was at every cipher I was at in Gary Indian.
SPEAKER_15The Reaper may he rest in peace. He was his music was so inspiring.
SPEAKER_02But uh T Lo's another one from out here. Um but yeah, dude, like I said, it's Yes sir. Yes, sir.
SPEAKER_05He's always rest in peace and tribute on my body.
SPEAKER_02We ain't all out here on the same shit. There's always different shit we're spitting, so that's a good point.
SPEAKER_15Definitely, definitely, definitely.
SPEAKER_17And shout out to uh Mr. King, who's on that smoke track at the end. That's my brother.
SPEAKER_11Okay, dope.
SPEAKER_17Talking about the Kings, man. That's uh that is uh one of us. Uh me, him, man. Me, him. Yeah, me and him, me, him, and him. Me, him, me, him, and him, H I M. Um, yeah, and so that'll give us a look uh into the Adidas party, which we had to talk about yet for the annual one. Yeah, let's talk about that. Uh July 24th.
SPEAKER_11Okay.
SPEAKER_17And uh everybody shows up every year decked out in Adidas.
SPEAKER_15If you don't, if you're not wearing if you're not wearing Adidas, you have to come in something plain. You better have some no-name shoes. We don't want to see no Jordans, no Drummonds, no remote, none of that. It's Adidas, or you better have you better have on some type of uh TikTok plain shoe.
SPEAKER_17He's gonna best outfit uh competitions and um we just show out and we have a good time. It's one of the biggest parties in Gary every year. Like it's it's packed out, and um this year's gonna be special. It's gonna be the day before his birthday. So we're gonna bring his birthday in for the fifth annual one. The show is based around uh King does features with everybody in the area. You know what I'm saying? So what happens is he'll he only does feature records. You know what I'm saying? He don't do nothing that he got just solo for the most part, and uh brings everybody in, and the crowd is always live. And again, this all started from one song. He made a song called Ad Uh Adidas. All my niggas wear Adidas. Adidas my head and my sneakers, you know what I'm saying? And turned it up. And now we've been doing this for five years. So shout out to King keeping it true to hip hop. That shit is some of the hip-hop is shit I done heard of, bruh. What you wearing, you know what I'm saying? And this motherfucker got all the fucking Adidas, bro. I can't get shit without this motherfucker getting that shit. Oh, yeah, I got that shit already, man. I had that already. So, yeah, um, it's definitely gonna be a big thing. Um, again, it's hosted by Volvo, um, the atomic shamboos. We're taking it, we're we're taking that is right. Yeah, Volvo My Shambous are hosting it.
SPEAKER_15DJ KC. Say Caesar is on the ones. Hell yeah.
SPEAKER_17Um, and it's gonna be at the loft.
SPEAKER_15Um so doors open at nine, 20 at the door. We got an event brand link to the book. We're gonna pack it out. Oh shit, that's a good person.
SPEAKER_17What's the exact date again? July 24th. July 24th.
SPEAKER_03Y'all heard it, y'all better be there.
SPEAKER_17And the thing about it is like, this is not like your typical like showcase or, you know what I'm saying, event where you got a bunch of rappers that's coming up there and they do that the whole night. You know what I'm saying? This is actually a party. You know what I'm saying? The music is gonna be spinning. Part of uh one of the one of the things I'm telling, I'm talking about it's been times where they don't play footworking music for 30 minutes, a whole hour. They fucking be battling, you know what I'm saying, doing all of that. They'll cut on the final phase stuff and they get to dancing, and it's just it's uh a real party, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_05A good time, just a straight up good time. Yeah, for sure. Is it all ages?
SPEAKER_15Nah, 21 and over. 21 and over. You have uh, we done had comedians battle. Like they get scrapping mics, battling jokes, like it's it's it it's nothing like ever you've seen before, and then it's also a concert happening at the same time. It's like a it's almost like a visual concert. Like uh I I think if it's like one of Dejappel's uh joints that he had like.
SPEAKER_17Yeah, it's kind of it's kind of a variety show-ish type thing, you know what I'm saying? So it's it's definitely an event, you know what I'm saying? So uh tickets. I think Tasha put up the we're gonna I'm gonna go.
SPEAKER_15You can find it on a when you see the Adidas Party stuff, you'll see the event bright. If you buy the tickets early until the day of it's $15. At the door is only $20. So don't threaten, but we be packing it out. It'll be packing and turning people out.
SPEAKER_17It'll be packing, we've turned people away many times. And it'll be there early.
SPEAKER_15And we always premiere new music.
SPEAKER_02You feel free to post it on the podcast page, dude. Yeah, we'll definitely promote that shit. We got you guys for sure. We'll represent it for y'all. It's definitely gonna be.
SPEAKER_15So what else y'all want to know? We're like uh we'll talk forever because we're actually podcast hosts. Yeah, we are. So don't get us started. Like what kind of projects you got going on now?
SPEAKER_06What uh what's what's in the uh in the queue for you?
SPEAKER_15Well, definitely the King Nerd project will probably it's probably gonna drop. We're almost done with that. It's crazy how quick we put that together. But um I also have my my final solo album. Now I'm gonna stop doing music. I'm just done with, you know what I'm saying, albums. Solo project. You sound like you're gonna LAB.
SPEAKER_06It's just one of your one of your retirements coming up, or what?
SPEAKER_17No, because I'm not you hear it, you hear me? I'm not till I talk to him again, like, look, man. I'm not I'm not gonna I'm not gonna retire.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that heart to heart.
SPEAKER_15I feel I feel like my mo my use is more in singles about like whether what the vibe is with the time and collab projects. Like, I just don't have the patience or the heart to do another solo after this. Um, one of the people that pushed me to do music like I was is no longer with us. So I'm actually doing this last album out of, you know what I'm saying, in that individual. Um blame it on rap music, it'll probably be done, you know what I'm saying, by the end of the year. And it's really it's really just a story about um basically like the catalog of my life and how anything that happened wrong in my life, people always used to blame on my love, you know what I'm saying, for hip hop and you know what I'm saying, the the street culture and all that stuff like that. But it's more me speaking of everything positive, you know what I'm saying, that came from me, you know what I'm saying, doing this, except for my addiction to white women, that might be a problem. Like that come from rap. That's crazy, right? What? Some of the videos, dog.
SPEAKER_06Like it's better than an addiction of a white girl.
SPEAKER_15Very good. That too. Yeah. It might be the same thing, to be honest with you.
SPEAKER_05Like he said he got a problem, right?
SPEAKER_15It's hard, it's hard. I went, I went, I went Spanish this. Well, I've been Spanish for a minute, and that's even rougher. So I think I think we're shooting rough water. I'm I'm nervous for my life right now. I had a short stint, yeah. He didn't last that long. Like, he got he got addicted. Long enough? He got addicted to that white girl, and he was done like two weeks later. I don't know how you do this.
SPEAKER_17He was like, this, nah, bro. I ain't gonna lie. They may be paying attention. I had a little, I had a little two, two, three rotation. No, bro. It was too much. It was too much. Nah, bro. You said you had to give it up.
SPEAKER_15You said the minute you stopped messing with them, your credit score dropped 300 points. Oh, damn.
SPEAKER_17My credit got better. My credit got better. I started paying my bills on time. I went and seek some credit counseling, you know what I'm saying? I start getting good, boy. Shout out to 2K Dre.
SPEAKER_11You know what I'm saying? We got um, you got any more music we could play? Bro, I have 20 years worth of music. Oh shit. We're at uh rhetorical question. Keep it going.
SPEAKER_02I got a special guest dropping in, man. Uh he's gonna fuck up Josh Tree. He's gonna be very excited.
SPEAKER_15I'm gonna do this. This is a uh this is another uh track from uh King Nerd. It's featuring y'all boy. Who's that? You're here. Uh-oh.
SPEAKER_11Check it out, below the surface.
SPEAKER_15Y'all know what it is.
SPEAKER_14TCB, nerd mix, play me on rap music. Hey yo, trail, though back right.
SPEAKER_12I been done did that. Peter villain, in the Ujiha, since wrong, or 90 proof production.
SPEAKER_08Let's go. See what surface may mean. Stippin' something hazy, been lost the thought, my dot and stock, my mental faults, pin back and forth. Rip the lobst, pin prank across, these take your dog, ain't down for long. Locking in these committed stints, can't walk a mile, choose the good affair. Had the pain, which break the brain, obstruct the sight, won't affect the range. Straight the gods, won't stay the day. Paper chasing at a young age. Lost with the gradient, still walk the stage. Now I'm on the stage with hands in the air. All with the maze like a public affair. All eyes on me, can't see me anywhere. Crashing out till I'm passing out. Or they take me out, stop sickin' down. Who laughing now? Who has the crown? Point them out, double dropping down. Blood run cold on his dice on my face. Why squeak all day? They be wearing at the pain. Smile on my face, chance to the plate, go run it up, walk the pain.
SPEAKER_15I won't put this way. I must have one.
SPEAKER_12You put a broad flat double fifty boy up and fighting, fine, fine, I've been smiling when I'm done.
SPEAKER_08I've been tired, I'll be cloud, I've been quiet now I'm loud. The more trellin' me, who wanna bite her down? I've been smiling when I'm done. I've been tired, I'm the clout, I've been quiet now I'm loud. The more trellin' me, who wanna bite her down?
SPEAKER_11Below below the surface. Yes, sir.
SPEAKER_02We back, we back, we back.
SPEAKER_11Yo, hell yeah. Man, for real, big, big shout out to Trail. For real.
SPEAKER_05That's my dude right there. He killed that. Smoke that shit.
SPEAKER_11And P the villain.
SPEAKER_02P the villain. That's what's up, dude.
SPEAKER_11Alright, we're back.
SPEAKER_15Trail Trail killed that beat. Uh funny thing about that, my first ever project I ever did was off uh 92. It was a full shift grind next day that was uh produced by Trail. Uh that's been my dude for years. He's one of my the people the first producers I've ever worked with. You know what I'm saying, exclusively. And he's just mad at me because I never did. Uh no, the funny thing about that, and the reason why we want to play that is uh Eric doesn't like that song. Oh my, what are you crazy now, bro?
SPEAKER_17What are you doing? Don't do that to my man. Shout out to Peter Dylan, man.
SPEAKER_15Y'all y'all know how Eric is with his music. He's very particular. You know what I'm saying? I can't believe you're doing that. He doesn't think that hook in that verse is up to par to be able to be out. No, that shit's dumb. That shit's banging, bro. Yeah. I'm like, he's got the he's got the second hottest verse on the song after me.
SPEAKER_17Bro, you are a sh you are a shit. You are a shit. Don't do my man's like that though, man. He heard that.
SPEAKER_15He embodied that track though.
SPEAKER_17Yeah, I feel like he smoked that shit. So Eric, Eric laid his verse and the hook, and me and him wrote off of that. Like that's what I was doing. We weren't like that shit was fire. I was like, I was like, what the fuck is this?
SPEAKER_15What happened was what happened was Hado likes playing songs. He played a song. I heard it was an open verse. I wrote a verse. Eric said he didn't want to do the song. So I sent it to Strong. And then we looked at Hado and said, Eric's first on the song. No, no, no. No, no, no. Keep that up there.
SPEAKER_17Not only did that happen, but his verse was, however, however it happened, it was a couple things off, so we needed him to go back and do it again.
SPEAKER_06Now it's gonna be online forever.
SPEAKER_17Yeah, do that shit, dog. Yeah, so he did that shit. Shout out to P, man. That shit hard, bro. That shit is hard. It is hard. It don't even matter what you thinking about it now, though. We dropping that shit. It's on King Nerd, I know.
SPEAKER_15P might be the most underrated, you know what I'm saying, person.
SPEAKER_17That motherfucker can't be a good thing.
SPEAKER_15That compo, dog. He can't. He can fucking rap. I think he thinks it's because he his process is so long when he does songs. But we tell him all the time that's why his songs are so good, is because he takes the time of the stuff. He crafts it. He crafts it. Yeah, there's nobody out there writing what he writes. That whole camp, nobody sees what they see when it comes to a vision on how they put their music together. You know what I'm saying? That's when Hado was like, I ain't rapping no more. I'm like, uh, okay. Yeah, you think you're not? Yeah. He said, just wait, just wait. Just wait.
SPEAKER_02Hado told him, let's let's do a whole collaborative album. Just me and me and Hyro, and he's like, I'll just produce for you. I was like, fuck it. You produce the whole album for me, and then he's like, I'm putting a solo album. I'm like, You wanna get on this track? I'm like, we're gonna just did the whole album, man. Nah. You know, you know that.
SPEAKER_06Sometimes you gotta retire to come back.
SPEAKER_02That's how a lot of collabals happen. You're you're on a song with me and Josh Tree now. Yeah. Super smoking ass song. That shit is fire. Super dope. When you got on and I'm like, this song's complete, man. It was dope as fuck. Um he's actually gonna jump on one of my tracks. I didn't even he's like, I gotta get on there. And I'm like, the beat's kind of crazy. He's like, no, the way you're flowing on there, man, I gotta get on it. I'm like, damn, dude, thanks, man. Like, I was like, it's alright, but I mean, I don't know. You're your own worst critic sometimes. Always, always. But yeah, dude, being over there, dude, that's where collabs have too though. What's that?
SPEAKER_17That's what happened with P2 about that verse. Yeah. He's his own worst critic. He's his own worst critic. And he feels a certain type of way about it, and so hey, that shit fire. My aunt is going on the project. And my daughter can actually sing.
SPEAKER_02Damn, that's dope.
SPEAKER_15You know what I'm saying? Like, she can't sing my no, you can't say that. She can rap his verse word for word. So that's what it does. We love P Man.
SPEAKER_02You want to try to uh play another song, or you guys want to try to do the performance?
SPEAKER_11Um whatever for me.
SPEAKER_02You guys want to get into another song? You guys want to go to the side?
SPEAKER_15If y'all wanna if you want to get one more song, I'll give you one more song. Yeah, give us one more song.
SPEAKER_02I got a surprise for y'all.
SPEAKER_15We can we can keep going. We can keep going. Do I have any more uh what'd you call it? Oh, that sounds hard.
SPEAKER_05They're not getting samples, it's gotta be finished.
SPEAKER_15I wonder if somebody I wonder if somebody I wonder if somebody get mad about the legend. Hold on. Uh I can't remember what it's called. Here we go.
SPEAKER_11Just you need to say it before, because I don't like how you did arrogant though, man.
SPEAKER_15Uh I be getting in trouble for playing this verse all the time, bro. The devil gave me cancer, really put me through it. My savior was my dogs. They got me googgy. Liv, help me survive.
SPEAKER_12Say it, living, fix my spirits, stuff. You gave me home. That's the reason why I'm focused. So let's go for broke. I'm feeling more like me. The more I break, make the body better, fitness, take this out of my sister, cut the minute for the end of my fitness.
SPEAKER_15I'm the illness, made this baby, I'm a city, I'm a walking letter, I mean if you want to have the letters in my colour, fill it up to go.
SPEAKER_17I'll just stand now. Let's just make me the man now. I lift the two baby that's cannot live for you once, you bring out this for the nigga. That's the twin stuff for me. Trying to outfit the nigga is coming to tail fake for me to the bleed. I had to be the teeth in my heartbreak. Let's be in the make heart screen.
SPEAKER_15But I know the only thing that keeps me on this earth is making sure my daughters have everything they need. I'm always gonna reach higher for them. I love you girls. Daddy's always gonna be here.
SPEAKER_11That's a real track right there. That's what's shit. Good production right there.
SPEAKER_05Production was good, the verses were good, the chorus was.
SPEAKER_15Look, that was that was him going through his divorce. That was me. I just got over cancer. And I just got over, you know what I'm saying, a time where I just felt like I wanted to self-transition. And music has always been a way to do that.
SPEAKER_05That's gonna be the stuff that people feel the most.
SPEAKER_11That's right.
SPEAKER_17That was that was definitely one of those. That was one of those verses. Uh you you'll write a verse sometime and you feel like so emotionally welled up about the shit that like I kind of gotta take a break from this shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, this shit is getting a little deep, you know what I'm saying? That verse took me a moment to get. In any case, like it will it definitely was something like I was like, damn, I'm I'm starting to hit a spot in myself that I don't know if I'm ready to go to, you know what I'm saying? But uh it it turned out it turned out okay. And I feel like I was supposed to write more, but I was like, man, hey, look.
SPEAKER_15Like that's it. I'm good. I looked at him like I want to have a relationship with my family, so it's probably good that you just stopped right there.
SPEAKER_17No, I wouldn't I wouldn't have did that though. I would have I would have turned it around like some sort of way, you know what I'm saying? Uh to build a lot of things. Hey, I've been there, bro. I've been there.
SPEAKER_05We've been down in this basement on the radio, yeah, pirated radio, so pissed off putting my ex-wife on blast and playing songs that was always like, this about that bitch right there.
SPEAKER_04Putting her whole name out and shit, you know. Sometimes you just gotta, you know, you gotta let go. Yeah, man.
SPEAKER_17And I made it, I made it a point um up until that point to not say, not reveal as much as I did on that track about, you know what I'm saying, my personal life. Only because um I've seen I've seen some of the damage being it because it's it's not about the the point of being honest, because you can be honest without saying certain things that you know is gonna piss up. Be for real, bro.
SPEAKER_15Be for real. That was after this track came after you got hit by a train.
SPEAKER_17Oh man.
SPEAKER_15Yeah, yeah, did it unbreakable right here. This is Bruce Willis in the flash.
SPEAKER_17Yeah, it did, yeah, it did, but but at the same, but at the same time, though, like I don't I don't it me talking about anything that I went through is fine as long as I'm not including somebody else in it that may not be ready for that same level of when I put out something that is personal to me, you know what I'm saying? I'm prepared for the consequences that come with it, you know what I'm saying? But they might not but I can't, yeah. I can't do that with somebody else unless I ask them, like, yo, how you feel about this? And a lot of times I ain't trying to do that. Nah, I think that you already know and like they probably gonna be like I'm like, damn, but I wrote these fire ass verses though.
SPEAKER_04It's already recorded, what are you talking about?
SPEAKER_17It's mixed, it's mastered, it's grown somewhere. Like, damn, like I got single artwork ready for this?
SPEAKER_04What's going on? Yeah, that's good. That's good.
SPEAKER_17There's a there's a level of there's a level of honesty that you can talk about that people know what you're talking about that don't include other people. Right. Like on that level, you know what I'm saying? You can talk about how you experience things without putting somebody's name in it or putting the certain event that you know other people know about in that shit. Like, there's a way to talk about that, and so that generally is the way that I go. But for this particular track and where I was at, me and him, we talked about this too.
SPEAKER_15Yeah, for lack of better terms. I'm not him. For lack of better terms, I'm a Donald Trump that shit. I'm saying names. I'm doing it. I'm right there with you.
SPEAKER_17I'm just I'm right there with you. Hey, listen, hey, listen, which is fine because at the end of the day, whatever you do, you have to be prepared for those consequences. So for me, like I'm good with it for me, but when I if I love somebody and and I don't want them to feel that angst that may come their way that I don't have no control over, that's where I, you know what I'm saying? I try to chill on that.
SPEAKER_15And me, I feel like I I feel like I fuck up relationships just to have context for music.
SPEAKER_05See, I'm just impulsive. I'll do what I gotta do and take my lumps.
SPEAKER_15I I mean it is. I I fuck up relationships just to have music. That's where fuck love and you know what I'm saying, everything else comes from. I feel like I had this thing. Oh, this is too good. Well, I don't have any content. Oh, let me fuck this relationship up. But you can talk about the good shit too, though.
SPEAKER_04You can talk about the good shit. The good shit isn't as entertaining as you pass.
SPEAKER_15Yeah, the good shit, the good shit is never as entertaining. Here we go. And I gotta prove this point right here, right? Love and hip-hop is only entertaining because the relationships are fucked up. True. Do we like do we do we pay attention? If Cardi being offset weren't always at each other's throats, we pay attention to what the fuck they're gonna do. When they were doing nothing.
SPEAKER_11No. I love that drama.
SPEAKER_15Think about Will Smith was dead to us until the entanglement. That's right.
SPEAKER_11Right.
SPEAKER_15Dead to you. His movies were flopping. We weren't paying no attention to what Will and Jada were doing.
SPEAKER_17That's because he had got so rich, he started putting his son and shit. Then they had an attack.
SPEAKER_11It was an interview with Dr. Dre, and he basically said it like this Nobody listens to music that really talks about God or Jesus. No. Or anything nice, you know, like good, you know, like positive. No. Everything else sells. Violence. Unless you're jelly, materialism or sexism.
SPEAKER_06Jesus walks Kanye. How many years ago?
SPEAKER_11How many years ago was that?
SPEAKER_06Like how many years ago was that?
SPEAKER_17That song sold. That song is fucking awesome. But you are.
SPEAKER_15And that song is actually controversial as shit with the shit he's saying in that song.
SPEAKER_05But you're all right with the whole jelly roll thing. It's like it's crazy how it's the complete opposite for him than what it is for everybody else. Like, he could talk about Jesus and God and all that, and everybody's listening to it. But when he was rapping, when he was rapping and not singing, he wasn't as popular as he is now.
SPEAKER_17No, he's also married. That's interesting. I kind of got a take on that, though. It's Bunny. Nah, nah, nah. He's popular because of Bunny. No, I've been a fan of his before I knew about Bunny. This is this is the thing. No, I'm just saying popularity. This is the times that we're in. This is the times that we're in. The same with Donald Trump.
SPEAKER_15Donald Trump is not popular because of Melania, though.
SPEAKER_17Nah, I'm not saying it's a difference. I know, that's what I'm saying, though. But he leaned into that. I know, but he leaned into that particular vein, though.
SPEAKER_15Nah, I dig it. But let's get off the Trump. I was making a joke. Now I'm depressed. Are you about to trump?
SPEAKER_17Hey look, anybody to play his fuck Trump song.
SPEAKER_15I forgot me and uh Penya did that shit. We did do a fuck Trump track.
SPEAKER_16See? They're gonna be again.
SPEAKER_15They always go get me for some shit that's negative. Like I'm on all the negative songs. I'm on nothing positive.
SPEAKER_02It's all good, man. How's that negative? Huh? How's that negative?
SPEAKER_15Well, it's I say we get it. I talk about raping his wife on the track. So it's negative.
SPEAKER_17That was your fault though. Like what? They didn't tell you, yeah, man, rape, rape his wife on the track. Like they didn't do that shit. I was angry about what he said about Michelle Obama. That's crazy. Holding other people accountable for your actions is wow, bro.
SPEAKER_15No, but I I think about it. Every track that they put me on is something negative. Like, like for real. Like, I'm it's something violent. What do they think of me? Right away. That's not that is not true. I'm on nothing positive. There's nothing that I've done with them that's positive. Like we just talked.
SPEAKER_03Positivity doesn't sell.
SPEAKER_06They think you're a lyrical hitman.
SPEAKER_15That's probably what they use me for. Ever from the first track, the first track I ever did with Hado, I think I surprised the shit out of him. We met at a I think it was the D12 show at the uh warehouse. And he was like, You're dope, let's do something together. And then he had me come over his cousin's crib and I laid a verse in one take, and he went, What the fuck? Like, I don't think he was used to that. And I laid an incredible fucking verse for him. He's like, you can really rap. I was like, we don't play around where I'm from. Right. And it's been brotherly love since then. Like, that's my dude. That's my child's godfather. Like, we we, you know what I'm saying? We in this, you know what I'm saying, till death do us part, basically. Sorry, Taron. Haddos mine.
SPEAKER_17Damn. Don't do that. Shout out to my best friend. No, I can't let him do that. But I love, I love just as well. I met him through uh Indie and um They got more songs together than I think me and Jeff have. No, no, that's a lot.
SPEAKER_15We did a whole album together.
SPEAKER_17But but we did a collab project. Um I love Hotto so much, and he was putting out those beat tapes. He put out a beat tape online, and I said, Bro, what the fuck are you doing with these beats online just out here for people to rip and and just rap on? And he and I was like, bro, you think it'd be cool if I'd do a tape? And he was like, Yeah, you record the whole thing here. I said, Whoa, this guy's different.
SPEAKER_15And just just to let y'all know, for $15, I have 40 Hotto beats. Yeah. Right now, $15. They're up for sale. I think I'm only using two. I've had them for about three years. They're all hot. Yeah. I go still.
SPEAKER_17You won't even care. That's the crazy part.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it's out there, whatever.
SPEAKER_15He'd be like, as long as somebody isn't whack on it, I don't care.
SPEAKER_02He sent me a whole folder. He was just like, here, here's some beats. And then I sent him all the tracks back. I'm like, I got something of everything. He's like, all the beats? I said, that's what you sent them for. Yeah. You know what? You know what? You're better than me.
SPEAKER_15One of the reasons why I love Hotto so much, I was at Six Flags and I was walking past the demon, and I kept walking past the demon, and that fucking demon theme song was playing. And I was like, and I was like, this is so dope. I recorded it, sent it to him, and he made me a demon beat. I was supposed to have it ready for Halloween. I didn't. It turned into something for uh Stranger Things. So thank you.
SPEAKER_11Alright, we're about uh one an hour fifteen. Let's get into that. Let's get into that performance, man.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, all right, we can go with it. Let's go. You got the beats on a thumb drive or even on your phone, it don't matter.
SPEAKER_15Whatever you got. I got them on my I got them on the phone. I got them on the phone. Okay.
SPEAKER_02And we do have a special guest performance right after these guys. Okay. Came all over the room.
SPEAKER_11We can fold up the chairs and then uh get it going.
SPEAKER_15Hey, shout out to all my people at uh my job. I'm not gonna say it out loud because I want y'all going up there messing with them, all those uh cute nurses. My baby at the front desk.
unknownLet me move these chairs back.
SPEAKER_15Still at work. You know what it is. Yeah, sure. I'm walking with the phone like it's not a tab. Oh my god! Fumble Robinson. Fucking shit up, man.
SPEAKER_05I'm fucking shit up.
SPEAKER_15You good, man. Uh just like a White Sox fan.
SPEAKER_05Oh, hell no. Don't tell me you're a Scrubs fan.
SPEAKER_15No, I'm a Royals fan.
SPEAKER_05Okay, okay. That's still kind of yeah. Better than a Cubs fan, though.
SPEAKER_15But that explains a lot, Josh. Yeah, we don't like y'all.
SPEAKER_11Hell yeah.
SPEAKER_15That's uh Ron's phone.
SPEAKER_11About to do a live live set right here. Yeah.
SPEAKER_15I'ma I'ma just start with a heat. I'm just gonna let you know that, okay?
SPEAKER_11I'm gonna just start with a heat.
SPEAKER_15Me at all.
SPEAKER_17Yo, like my Young Yo, yo, yo, yo.
SPEAKER_16Testicles, one, two. Testicles, one, two.
SPEAKER_00That's what I want for the one.
SPEAKER_15There we go. I feel good now. One out of everything I said on this pod, that's the first thing she got. It's cool. It's always the one thing she heard the humor. Facts.
SPEAKER_11Alright, we're gonna get ready to do this performance.
SPEAKER_15We're gonna start with the heat.
SPEAKER_11Bring in the pain.
SPEAKER_15Syndrome, Andy Uchiha, King Nerd.
SPEAKER_11What's up with the mics, man?
SPEAKER_15It it's still green, bro. There you go.
SPEAKER_17Check, check.
SPEAKER_18Yeah, it just went in. Okay, there we go. There we go.
unknownCheck, check, check.
SPEAKER_18Check, check, check, check, check, check, check, check, check, check.
unknownGive me another mic and another mic. Give us the wire. Give me the wire. Check, check, check.
SPEAKER_18Some interference. We're not gonna do the most though.
SPEAKER_11Okay, I need a mic! Somebody trying to mic.
SPEAKER_18Yeah, we ain't gonna we ain't gonna we ain't gonna do the most. We're gonna get it together, though.
SPEAKER_15We good, we good.
unknownOkay. You know what?
SPEAKER_15Woo!
SPEAKER_01Praise God! That change!
SPEAKER_15Yeah.
unknownIt's coming.
SPEAKER_15Woo! Yeah.
SPEAKER_17Hey. Hey. She said she popped the test was still not. Hey.
SPEAKER_16Still not this.
SPEAKER_17Okay.
SPEAKER_15Hey. That song is extremely provocative.
SPEAKER_17That's that Tesla. That's coming out on King Nerd, y'all. We're gonna get that to y'all real soon, man. People been asking for that shit. What are we doing now? Let's do Spencer James. I like Spencer James. You wanna do Spencer James? Yeah. Go ahead, man. Play whatever you're gonna play then, man. I'm good. I you know.
SPEAKER_15I hope this is the right version of this. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_18Are we doing this? Indiana man.
SPEAKER_17Yeah. Okay, we'll switch up, hold on. But I like the wire mic.
SPEAKER_15Huh? Climate change. Every time I speak, we'll be warming. Every time a focus touch the beat, that's heating all that's beef with the iceberg. Sweat it's so cold. I swear that's like work. I'm here to fight Earth. Fuck you, rappin' ass niggas. The collectors in my prime outlooks a little different. Hunger won't change. Fuck Popeyes. I'm here to pop eyes. Cartoons just got rise. So small so the war in the giant size. Still like GI works. Cause the niggas from Gary know how GI works. I spit boards like fit of machines. And got us off with a nigga like your shit clean. You can have it. I ain't severs what you want. Sit my fully automatic. I damage niggas with the rickle wing kicks in the buckup. Kill the end seem to turn these pit bulls to fucking butt. What you want? Ready in front of me, plus the mic. Equals the start of the second coming regardless of all your front. You can stop my swagger.
SPEAKER_17Strong ties, deep rooted, correct the lawn die. Far cry from the wages, suiting off like a star child. The call of duty is running through me like a consume. It's bad, nick use it. Your talent don't ask you to do it. If it's up in the air, I said a land. On top now, but not gon' lose later. And bring it to light with sun to ground like two raiders.
SPEAKER_15Like nine tests, one tip more to go. One day before I blow, one verse up the flow. One life I should live be border through this rapid shit. Young spit death, I'm a hazard if you battle me. You should play with infinition, too easy to rattle. Don't die me before the eyes ain't right. Listen seven all day, like I loaded the dice. Script words infused with a passion like Christ.
SPEAKER_12But might lead with it, rock if the price is right. Might heat up the box if the block is hot.
SPEAKER_15Catch a snake slipping in, send his eyes to his wife. But off her new era. My goons in position and begin a new era. Doug, no failure, he cold at his ice. In a pseudo situation, he'll escape the vice. Cause I'm steady in the game. I chuck the hippos. If you rip so for fuckin' with my can't fuck you, nigga, you been folks. Use the pistol. Damn, spin these misses. Young to dismiss you. Detach your head from your neck. You in the ditch to move on to the next fool. I'm so cool, you can see your breath. So when I spit, nigga, you can see your death.
SPEAKER_17Strong ties, deep rooted, can make the lawn die. Far cry from the days of shootin' off like a star child. The call of duty is running through me like a casualty. It's mad in the usual talent, don't match what you do. Ain't like a buff at all. Jumpin' and never fall and never land. If it's up in the air, I said a land. On top now, we're not gon' lose later. And bringing the light was underground like tomb raiders. My feet hurt, my feet hate.
SPEAKER_15These motherfucking shoes make my feet hurt. My feet hurt. My feet hurt. These Sabrina shits make my feet hurt. They look good though.
SPEAKER_17We should have got should've got the right size, man. Yeah, you should've wanna have a size bigger, but it's like every time I uh my toe goes owl. Alright, uh, let's let's do let's do V-trigger then. Oh shit. Let's do V trigger. No, that's my shit. I love that fucking shit, boy. Shout out to the Kings if they in the building. No what I'm saying. Real hip hop shit. You feel me? Shout out to Jess One. You feel me? Big B H and W B in this bitch too. You know I'm a bald head nigga with a beard. You feel me? This motherfucker low key needed the crocs. That's crazy. Hey, another victim of the time, bitch. It's the truth. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_18Yeah, I don't even know if the mic on.
SPEAKER_17Hey, sing to me, baby.
SPEAKER_18Damn, look, that one on now.
SPEAKER_17Okay, that's crazy. Hey, look. Small things, that's no a giant, it's no alliance. Get David Baby, my nigga, bitch. It's the lion's shit. I stand on mine. Dr. Strange, I handle time, bitch. I stand on fire. Off the chains with handle vibes, bitch. I stay stillin'. Still trippin', I paint stillin', plus I make the fillin'. Her whole purpose to hate the fillin'. I'm cool, hand loose skywalker off O D. Niggas know me, bro. Beat it smoking like road steam. I ain't playin' with it. Rhyme talk, I make the witness like I'm saying shit is smoking hot. I'm staying switching through. However, no error. When I drop the power of terror, I'm talking lick off the stick of power that killies terror out of dust L. Came back from the judge well. The plug off a judge for my nigga that cooks meals. I create the vibes that take time to case five. It's a face time of face lines. It's game time. That's think, bitch.
SPEAKER_15Hey. Just one was a monster on this beat, dog.
SPEAKER_18Yeah, he smoked that shit though.
SPEAKER_17Shout out to Jess. Shout out to my people out there below the surface, you know what I'm saying? King Nerd.
SPEAKER_15We appreciate you.
SPEAKER_17King nerd, it's coming out soon, man. Y'all gonna get what y'all need. Real rap shit, you feel me? Now I'm gonna go make a song, my feet hurt. This motherfucking done came out of the Sabrinas. That shit is crazy. Sabrinas was made for white women's feet.
SPEAKER_15I can guarantee that.
SPEAKER_17Nah, folks. All you need is some motherfucking inserts in the bitches.
SPEAKER_15Motherfucking needs jail souls in them. We appreciate y'all, man. Tuning in Adidas Party, July 24th. King Nerd.
SPEAKER_17July 24th. Um, shout out to Keisha Cautious. Her birthday party is coming up. Um we're gonna be at the we're gonna be at the loft again. Um, well, actually before. June 5th. June 5th. At the loft, Adik. Um The Return of the Baldhead niggas with beards, you know what I'm saying? This is gonna be a special performance, you know what I'm saying? We back in it, and we got something special for y'all though. So shout out to my bros. And uh, yeah, it's lit, man. Below the surface, we appreciate y'all, man, for sure.
SPEAKER_15Go follow A plus Hero Report on YouTube and uh Wow Idea's hardy.
SPEAKER_17Let's end on that though.
SPEAKER_02The first ever live event down in the slaughterhouse. I got a special guest for y'all tonight, man. Andy and Rome pour that shit up as always, man. First ever live event in the slaughterhouse.
SPEAKER_11Um, I did some very sneaky shit and invited one of the owners.
SPEAKER_02And I'm gonna bring him on the show now. He's been on the podcast before. First ever live performance by him on Below the Surface. Check him out, man. You know him as Kojak.
SPEAKER_13What up, what up, what up, guys. I'm Kojak. Big Ups Indian Roman Below the Surface podcast. Uh they were kind enough to ask me to come chop it up one day. They had uh an event planned, and I'm happy to come rock a couple uh couple tracks. Uh they don't have to be all three, boss. I don't know which one you're which one are you running first?
SPEAKER_11Um As We Go. Alright, as we go.
SPEAKER_13I wanted to do, yeah, the first two's fine. This one's called As We Go by a Northwest Indiana producer, Mike Shaw, Shaw Shang Productions. This one's a whole different beast. This is so uh, yeah, this is uh unreleased, but I decided starting in June or July, I got a gang of songs. I'm just releasing a new track every month for like the next two years, bro. I I'm just these I'm just sick of being precious about it, holding on to it, so I'm happy to premiere some stuff.
SPEAKER_11Below the surface, check it out.
SPEAKER_13Yeah, Shaw Shang Productions, Below the Surface, Indian Rome. You know what's good. Hey, what's up, guys? I'm Kojak from the southeast side of Chicago. Pegwish to be precise. That little boofoo corner where they think we're either Indiana or we just float in the lake all day. We exist, I promise you. Hope you guys dig it. Big ups. Thanks for having me.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, check it out.
SPEAKER_13Been here before, bitching about the same old thing when the world has so much more. Open doors, wanna live my dream, rockin' on a worldwide tour. But of course, none of that was guaranteed. That's what dreams were for. Ha! Shoot for the win, bring your people in, build a team, and then beat your weaknesses. Hey So it begins, disobedient, miss fits freaking it. Wait, don't go leaving. We know you're feeling this. Say, fuck what they think it is. We keep bringing it. Hey, we keep going, we'll rollin' through. Hey, who knows what we're supposed to do? Hey, we keep going, we're rollin' through. Who knows what we're supposed to do? We'll make it, we'll make it, make it up as we go. We'll make it, we'll make it, make it up as we go. We'll make it, we'll make it, make it up as we go, make it up as we go, as we go. Kudos to those who ain't afraid to make mistakes, okay? Who knows where the road might go? Won't know if you stay in one place, wanna roam the globe. Break out like Dufrain on Santee, parlez-vous, France. No, I blow as pan, yo, no say. No fun in front of your eyes. Grab that girl, gonna decide to make a mad dash for a little love in your life with nothing to hide. But the other one on the side. All spare in love and war, they claim. Who cares what people say? Life ain't fair, but I'm glad I'm here today. Let's pretend it's all great. Hey We keep go, we're rollin' through. Who knows what we're supposed to do? We keep gone, we're rollin' through. Who knows what we're supposed to do? We'll make it, we'll make it, make it up as we go. We'll make it, we'll make it, make it up as we go. We'll make it, we'll make it, make it up as we go, make it up as we go, as we go. Not saying it's all alright, but check these songs outright. No failure to launch, I'm planning on blasting off tonight. Not playing God for them on that green all the time. You take a law, shake it off back on your grind. Not saying it's all alright, but check these songs outright. No failure to launch, I'm planning on blasting off tonight. Not playing God for them on that green all the time. You take a law, shake it off back on your grind. Woo! Thanks, guys. That's a new song with me and uh Mike Shaw. I performed it. It's I'm telling you, he makes some. It's dope. It's it's it's going from uh this next joint I'm gonna do. Oh, you mind if I grab my water real quick?
SPEAKER_11Go ahead, it's all good.
unknownNo water.
SPEAKER_13It's cool though, because that's a song with me and Mike Shaw, Shaw Shang Productions, and he's a young, a little a few years younger, and his productions approach is so much different than the older boom bap heads, which brings me to this next track. This next track is uh brand new, produced by my man Nightwalker. I just uh I just wrote it in the last few weeks. I just tried to memorize it. Uh how many? Uh yes, how many? If you don't mind giving me a second to slide on this water, because I can't breathe for like I got five seconds to breathe, and then it's just three minutes of rapping.
SPEAKER_11This is a nice treat. Uh come bless the mic, you know, on the whim. Appreciate it. Thank you guys for having me.
SPEAKER_13It really is an honor.
SPEAKER_11Alright, let's see how this goes. Alright, let's do it.
SPEAKER_13My eyes are closed and I'm looking straight. That's because I'm trying to remember what the hell I wrote.
SPEAKER_11Okay, here we go. Below the surface.
SPEAKER_13Nightwalker, shout out. Yo. Let's be honest, never wanted an empty promise made to break. Let's be honest, you're no goddess, I'm no god. We stay the same. Let's be honest, that is constant. What's beyond? We may debate. Let's be honest, I'm dishonest. Don't trust any claim I made. Take wait, tryna stay face. Don't want complaints, cut the mainframe. Bugs in the system, I'm fucking praying. Young incondition to trust what they say. Post few bats and rally and rage. Oh new mess, new dragons display. Talk of war, criminals rope burned in pain. No perfect way to learn the charades. Coerce and claim, the whole world's a state. Full those came, the whole world is paid. So hard to face, the old chart remains a rope after flames and go hopefully face. Oh no, don't go full blown hate. Oh, vote over this, don't stay late. No slow mo with the quickness that came. So close, then the whole globe change. Let's be honest, never wanted a broken promise made to break. Let's be honest, you're no goddess, I'm no god, we stay the same. Let's be honest, that is constant. What's behind? We made the fate. Let's be honest, I'm dishonest, don't trust. Uh-huh. I'm skipping the jump from not giving a fuck, don't trip. I coach switch if the cops come, go fit. Setting the hook and I caught one, don't quit. You're not rich, you're not done. Act aloof, we have to prove you can't be moved by bad news. We laugh at that truth. Come on, man, compassion is uncouth. Sadness is uncool. Every rest undo, art of war, the art of love is moved. Guard the door, the army form the coup. I'm the floor, the marks is on the roof. Rest destroyed your death is for the views. Ever vestime meant to shine a light. Second, yes, my first impression. I left the left, but don't fit with the right. Left the message with the wrong divine. Let's be honest, never wanted an empty promise made to break. Let's be honest, you're no goddess. I'm no god, we stay the same. Let's be honest, that is constant. What's beyond, we made the bate. Let's be honest, I'm dishonest. Don't trust any claim I make. Clever misdirection, deception mixed in with rhymes. Hides my indiscretions and evidence of my crimes. If lying by your mission was a sport, I'd win a prize. Ask me no more questions, I'd tell you no more lies. Clever misdirection, deception mixed in with rhymes. Hides my indiscretions and evidence of my crimes. If lying by your mission was a sport, I'd win a prize. Ask me no more questions, I'll tell you no more lies. Let's be honest, never wander with empty promise made to break. Let's be honest, I'm dishonest. Don't trust any claim I made. That's all me. That's I'm done, guys. Much love. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Below the surface, man. Nightwalker and Quell are about to drop an album June 6th.
SPEAKER_11Hell yeah.
SPEAKER_13Much love. Thanks for having me below the surface, guys. I'm gonna go drink some water and breathe. Alright.
SPEAKER_02Much love. Never ask me back. Shout out to Indy and Rome for killing it, like always. They killed it. Shout outs to Kojak for coming through on a short notice. Man, this was the best concert ever we had here. There's been many. I definitely like it. Below the surface. DJ Rick Rock. Third back Johnny. It's your boy Tog. Hell yeah. Josh Tree on the show.
SPEAKER_11Josh Tree up in this motherfucker.
SPEAKER_02We out of here. I give shoutouts, but we gotta give shoutouts to the artists that perform tonight.