Letting Go, Holding On, and Doing the Work — ft. Jacq Gould

This week on Pretty Wrong, we’re joined by our friend Jacq Gould — founder of “Your Inner Babe” — for a real conversation about the relationships that quietly change as we grow.

We talk about the friendships that fade without a big blowup, the weird grief of outgrowing people you still love, and how hard it can be to move forward without making anyone the villain. We also get honest about marriage — the work, the repair, the seasons where connection takes effort.

Jacq brings her perspective from helping women reconnect with themselves, but this episode isn’t about self-help — it’s about the messy, human side of loving people over time.

We get into:

• friendship “expiration dates”

• when to fight for a relationship vs. when to let it go

• why change feels like loss (even when it’s right)

• what people mean when they say “marriage is work”

• choosing growth without guilt

If you’ve ever wondered whether you’ve outgrown someone — this one’s for you.

Chapters

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