The Mick and Dave Show with Adrian Higgs – A Lifetime Perfecting the Craft of Plastering

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The Mick & Dave Show welcomes special guest Adrian Higgs – a craftsman who has spent a lifetime perfecting the art of plastering and decorative finishes.

From traditional plastering skills to the incredible craft of creating realistic imitation oak beams from nothing more than plaster, Adrian shares his journey, techniques, experiences, and the dedication required to master a highly specialised area of the trade.

If you've ever wondered how true craftsmanship develops over decades on the tools, this is an episode you won't want to miss.

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The Mick and Dave Show with Adrian Higgs – A Lifetime Perfecting the Craft of Plastering

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SPEAKER_06 0:54

Find it on Google or type in www.plustomplaster.com.

SPEAKER_05 1:09

Hi there.

SPEAKER_06 1:10

Hey Mick, how are you? Oh, not so bad. It's quite well not so bad at all. Yeah, oh yeah, mate. Oh god, we're doing well. You know, we've had always we've had over 6,000 downloads on these podcasts so far. It's bloody stupid. You know, people and the largest smart market is America. We love you, America. Brilliant. You know what I mean? And thanks for everybody, because it's just growing and growing. We didn't think we'd get, you know, who the hell wants us as two bloody idiots from UK spouting on about blasting. Who's no idea what they're bloody well doing it first place? Well no about blasting. We don't know much about podcasts. We know what we're doing about blasting, we just no idea what we're doing with them, did we? It is what it is. But we I think comment or we we get away with chance, no chances are the word chances.

SPEAKER_05 2:10

Well we're chancing it quite well then, to be fair.

SPEAKER_06 2:18

You know, if anybody uses chat GBT, we usually then type in what do people like about this? Why has it become so popular? You know, all most bottle thingies, mate. The fact that we we don't give a fuck what we say. Honestly, he says it's a unique thing because we want a few podcasts at all. We just swear for and say what we want.

SPEAKER_05 2:40

What we're just saying is it is, don't we? To be better. We say it is what it is.

SPEAKER_06 2:45

We don't try and be posh and pretend to bugger all, do we? Seriously. No, well, why pretend to be someone we're not? Well, that's right. End of the day we're end of the day with we're two plasterers, you know. We just talk as lads do on site, take the piss and what have you, and that's a bit the way it is.

SPEAKER_05 3:05

And yeah, it's been ingrained for years, so it's hard to change it.

SPEAKER_06 3:11

It ain't gonna change it. He seems same across the world, doesn't he? Because lads, plastering lads, that's what it's all about, taking the piss and having a laugh. It's a crap hard job. You've you've got to have a laugh while you're doing it, otherwise you'd go insane, wouldn't you? You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_05 3:26

But you know, if you think about it, chucking shit up walls every day, you've got to do some work to do mind-numming, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_06 3:35

Yeah, why are we coming to the shop in first place? We must have been bloody wrong in our heads to come in. You know what I mean? Well, well, that's it. Sounds about right, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_04 3:46

Anyway, people eat those, but anyway. That's the way what are we doing today, anyway, Dave?

SPEAKER_06 3:53

I'm gonna ask you, what are we doing today? I'm to bloody clue. I don't know. What are we doing? I've got a bloody clue. I never do. Oh, I know what we're doing today. I'll leave me down to you, mate, as usual. Go on.

SPEAKER_05 4:05

We've got a guy with an absolutely amazing talent joining us today. Brilliant. How can I put it? When you can turn a bag of dust into something that looks like a piece of wood, that's quite impressive to me. So we've got a guy called AD Higgs from Imitation of Beans in the UK with us today.

SPEAKER_06 4:30

Wow, you know, realistically, we come across Aidy, luckily, come across him through Lingon. And once you've seen his work, it's wow. And what we need to do, you need to go on the Lathen Plaster magazine and have a look at Adi's work. He's feet we've got him featured on there. We're talking to him today. So go and look at what his work is, and it'll blow your eye, it'll blow your mind away, like Mike Mick says, it comes from a bag of bloody dust mixed with water.

SPEAKER_04 5:02

Exactly.

SPEAKER_05 5:03

It's just unbelievable. Unbelievable. So I I sat I sat there for about 10 minutes looking at it, going, is that a piece of wood? Is that really a piece of wood?

SPEAKER_06 5:14

That's how you're looking. Are you taking piss? Is that not a piece of wood you've done? And it's a bloody hellfire.

SPEAKER_04 5:22

So the guy's got is amazing.

SPEAKER_06 5:26

Absolutely amazing. Shut the fuck up. Come on, get him introduced. Get him introduced. What's going on?

SPEAKER_05 5:34

Jesus Christ. So today we've got the wonderful talented question.

SPEAKER_06 6:28

Is a man just to turn water into wine? Well, this man can turn plaster into wood. So here we go. Let's talk to Ernie. Ernie, how are we going on, mate? And tell us all your secrets.

SPEAKER_03 6:42

Yeah, not not too not too bad, but I'd I definitely can't turn it into wood because it's not burnable.

SPEAKER_06 6:51

Oh, yeah, it doesn't look like it's going to be burned. It's fantastic. People, he's appearing in Laughing Plaster magazine, so you'll be able to go and see all the images and the write up about him. You know, the work is absolutely fantastic. So come on, Edie, spill your secrets. How long you been doing it, and how do you do it?

SPEAKER_03 7:15

Well, I mean, to be honest with you, I sort of like done plasterings back when I was about 18. And then uh, like I said to you previously, I mean, I I sort of was left in limbo down here because my work partner that was the one that was teaching me sort of went off and done his own thing in India, went off travelling and whatever. So I sort of carried on plastering, but it was an opportunity that I sort of to be honest with you, I run off with a gal down to Chester. Yeah, you're not wrong. And uh I met a couple of brothers who were plastering, and they sort of invited me to join join their sort of like gang blastering, and that's I saw them do one one day. Yeah, and uh I thought they messed the bean up, to be fair. I thought they'd fucked it, I thought they messed it up.

SPEAKER_05 8:07

Right. And uh good you found a way with no prisoners.

SPEAKER_03 8:13

I see them do it, I see them start it, I didn't see them finish it, and then I saw I I saw what what they were trying to achieve, and then I I went another job of theirs, and they had there was one finished, and I thought, yeah, that's alright.

SPEAKER_04 8:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:30

And that's all I thought it was, it was alright, but I knew it sort of planted a seed with me, really.

SPEAKER_06 8:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:36

And I knew when I sort of like when I did leave Chester, which was about 95, 96, I sort of come back with that little seed sewed in my head. So I I sort of practiced in between hits, just practicing on bits of plaster board, just bits of plasterboard, just trying different knives, different brushes, different timings. And every day I would do that. Do you use normal? Trying different techniques.

SPEAKER_06 9:05

Sorry, did you use the slow board? Yeah, I'd multi.

SPEAKER_03 9:09

Yeah, I do. I use uh I did start to use bonding with multi. I thought because I was putting it on quite thick, I thought that would give it the you know, but you might you can knock up multi-finish quite thick anyway. So you know, you've obviously got to put a coat on first, just a thin one, just to sort of like to give it an adhesive, yeah. So it sticks to it. But uh, yeah, I've I've I've taken the bonding out of it now. It doesn't need it. What about the colours? Yeah. What about the colours? Colours was a colours was a thing that I uh again I tried dies, because what I was trying to achieve was that when I walk out that door that it was finished, because some of these jobs, because some of these jobs would be quite a way away, and you know, nobody's gonna pay you that sort of money to go and redo it or to go up there and colour it when they get a decorator. But because you need to when you walk out that building, it's gotta be finished. If that makes you know, like at least 95% finished, yeah. And so I tried everything from tea bags to coffee, dyes, but dyes would scratch off. If you, you know, when you when you scratch it here, it sort of it would sit on the top of it. Well, I wanted something more that penetrates it, try giving oils. And then the the the object is to make wood look massy, unless the ones you're copying, shall we say, are shiny, then you you could you use an oil that would leave a glossy fit glossier finish.

SPEAKER_04 10:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:51

So then I just filed an error. And it wasn't until I'm talking now, about a year ago, just probably two years ago, that I've come across this product and I use it, and it's it I've sort of like finally put the sprinkles on the coffee.

SPEAKER_05 11:08

Yeah. Right. It makes sense.

SPEAKER_03 11:11

Yeah, that kind of makes sense.

unknown 11:12

Sure.

SPEAKER_03 11:13

And yeah, I I I found the colours that they do these combinations of colours that I can mix. And I know when I walk into a job now, and I've got to that stage now where I just walk onto a job and I know exactly what I'm doing from start to finish. All that part.

SPEAKER_06 11:29

Brilliant.

SPEAKER_03 11:30

So it's got to a really strange stage where I don't even think about it no more. I don't have a plan. But I do, you know, when I go on a job, I look at it and go, right, I know how to get that colour. Yeah. And I think that's uh, you know, this is all about trial and error, and about, you know, to go to the gym and or buying a gym pass, should we say, and go into the gym and getting a six pack. Yeah. Rather than, you know, just you know, trial and error is how you get there, unless you do and unless it was done my way. Well, I've done all the mistakes, I've done it all over 30 years, really. Wow.

SPEAKER_05 12:08

So it's it's it's you tend to find is it the mistakes that then make it easier next time you do it.

SPEAKER_03 12:15

Yeah, I think uh, you know, it's like you know, do the walk, you've got to do the tripping up along the way. I think you know, unless you put that effort in, which I wasn't nobody taught me how to do them.

SPEAKER_04 12:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 12:30

And I sort of like went into it like a like a virgin, really, and and practiced different times when to put the grain in. And I went not mad once, you know, like just trying to put knots in it. And there was times that you just go, What they don't always have knots. You know, sometimes less is more. Yeah. And you know, you've got to know what works in a building and what doesn't work, and you've got to take that into consideration. The money doesn't matter, then, then it's as long as you leave that job, the customer is singing your praise. Yeah. Even if you've got less money, it's about leaving it because you can walk on a job and they say, I want three there, two there, one there, and you go, hold on a second, you don't really want that. You what you want is one that turns your head, yeah, yeah. You know, and one that the people go, Where did you get that from? Exactly.

SPEAKER_05 13:27

There's a lot a lot to be said for Leslie's more, to be honest. Yeah, a lot to be said for it. Because I'd I've looked at some of the pictures that have been sent through, and I'm like, Wow. And I I showed my other aunt one of the pictures, yeah, and the first thing she said to me is is that wood?

SPEAKER_06 13:46

Yeah, my yeah, my wife said same plaster, exactly exactly the same. I said, This this man can make plaster look like wood. I'm looking at bloody fire, it's amazing, absolutely bloody amazing. And people just go on the laughing magazine and see his page and the work, it'll blow your mind. Absolutely blow your mind.

SPEAKER_03 14:09

Yeah, because he's I have I I've seen stuff on YouTube and Facebook, YouTube, and that and people are jumping on. I think I've got a little bit, I've gone a bit out in everybody's face at the moment on uh on Facebook and so forth, but I think you know, everybody's jumping on a bandwagon because they you know they they can do them, and you know, I I know everybody's got their own way of doing them, and I'm not saying but no, I've never been taught by anybody, and I you know, I think I stand by what I do that you know they are genuinely you wouldn't tell if you even put your hand on them, banged them, you know, what works and what doesn't work. And I think uh you know, I know people can do them out there. I've seen some nice work, but uh you know I'm proud of where I came, you know, and how and I I know I always leave a job and I'm at people and the customers are always happy.

SPEAKER_05 15:03

So that's half the battle. As long as you as long as you can be happy and proud of what you can put what you've done and turned out then to me that's top drop.

SPEAKER_03 15:16

This beam I was doing Friday, I I'd done a mark on it, and I walked out and came back in and I just thought it just ruined the whole beam, and I just sort of just went over it with my brow and lost it, and then just redone it, and it just made the beam again. It made it just change from what it was to another beam, and you know, the the lady, I mean the young lady, she's a young lady, but uh she was overnoon. And how how long did you lose? How long does one take, AD, from start to finish? Um they would take in the region of about the same as the hit of plastering, I would have made you know, like three hours, to do like a five-meter beam, I could do that from start to finish in three hours. And that's putting an oil on it as well. You know, if I've got a work partner, which I do work with another guy, which I sort of again, he he's been taught different ways than I have, on the more finicky one. Yeah, you know, but he does he's done a couple, and uh I don't know whether he's not confident enough, but he has done a couple that I'm impressed with. But if you if you're gonna do if you're gonna do meterage, then he's he puts them on and then he sort of lets me go. Yeah, he's sort of like he I can let him go with one, but normally if there's a big one or something like that here, let me take control of it. So we could do about 15-20 metres a day, really. Once they're dry, because obviously plaster takes time to dry, but they are actually from from nothing to the colour when I leave. So they're finished. It's just a case of freshening them up. Some people don't give them a second coat of oil.

SPEAKER_04 17:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:15

Some people believe they just, you know, I've had there's been loads of jobs where they haven't even coated them with oil. They know they're happy. So which is you know, you think oil wouldn't work with water on plaster, but it's the ores I use too for some strange reason. And they are white spirit based.

SPEAKER_05 17:34

Well, that's quite mad.

SPEAKER_03 17:36

It is mad, isn't it?

SPEAKER_05 17:37

Yeah. Well it when you think about the scientific scientifics of it, like oil and water sh really shouldn't mix. But they obviously do.

SPEAKER_03 17:46

Well, I think the water's drawn in and it's gone to that stage where you're not gonna you're not gonna uh affect the plaster and the grains and all that. Yeah. You know, so for some reason it's it's worked, and I've tried everything. So, you know, the surprising thing is it does work. My system works. I think a lot of the people that do oans come back and re-oil them or boil them. So where mine are like a little minor fish on the same day, would it take it?

SPEAKER_05 18:27

It it is bonkers because it's like I I look at them and I think to myself, you know what? They must take at least a day. And then you just said to me you can do one in three hours. It's like it just blows my structure. Yeah, it's because I'll be honest with you, I've looked, we've got like a walkthrough lounge to dining room, and it's basically a square opening. And I keep saying to saying to my my other office, keep saying, look, I'd really like to put a bit of a beam or something above that so it stands out and just you know makes it look more different. Yeah, and the more I look at it, the more I'm thinking to myself, I need to have a go at this. And because it's in my house, Adi, I'm not too bothered if I cock it up because I can redo it myself anyway.

SPEAKER_03 19:17

But it's just I think the fact that it's on a bit of plasterboard is the easiest way to do it, but it is the grains to get in from the grains to get into the knots, to get into the when you're you're making sort of like chisel marks in it, and that it is a process, and you know, one you know, and it and the process works by way, yeah, and it's taken a long time to get there, so we say. So it it is that trial and error of just practicing a bit of plaster board, knowing the system, and uh you know, and knowing what works and what doesn't work. Yeah, that's uh that's it, you know, that's the important thing. And the oils is pretty much just mixing the oils a little bit of that, a little bit of that, and brushing it with white spirits onto a bit of plaster board and then seeing how the colours turn out.

SPEAKER_05 20:11

Yeah, that kind of makes sense. Yeah, so you're you know I've got visions of creating this thing, and then thinking, shit, how am I gonna make it look like a piece of oak?

SPEAKER_03 20:23

You'll be surprised. Sometimes you don't need some sometimes you don't need anything other than grain. And you know, two beans that sit in the same room don't have to be exactly the same. They didn't come from the same tree.

SPEAKER_05 20:37

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 20:39

They come from different properties or different different places, and you know that's what works. I think people when they get a mixture of stuff, it's like uh they are looking with slightly different colours, and maybe but you can all the same. It's uh yeah, you know, we we also uh you know, I've done patching in where you've got like uh original beans. I've got plenty of them that I've done where I just they've got the I forget what they're called, dude. They actually hold the uh the the joystangers. The metals. The no the the clips, the metal clips that hold the joys. Oh the joystangers.

unknown 21:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 21:17

Joystangers, yeah. And uh, you know, I done one just not so long back, and they had the joystangers and bits of wood underneath them because and the joys hangers and the bits of wood came out about four inches onto the original beams. Yeah. And there was fifty forty, fifty beams in this house. And so I had to wrap scrim around these joys hangers and the timber and then and then flash of them and then feather them in and get the same colour so you wouldn't see them. So they become part of the beam. That's cool. So I've done plenty of them and yeah, it's crazy some of the stuff you can get over. That'd be amazing. And it's just about taking it off the eye, isn't it?

unknown 21:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 22:03

Right now, I'm gonna ask you a crazy question. Have you ever contemplated going into like the colleges and doing demonstrations for that?

SPEAKER_03 22:12

I've got a friend of mine that's said about doing a course. You know, like inviting ten people maybe to do a course over three days and do more hands-on things. Yeah, um, and rent a rent an area that uh and have their beams already set up for them, and then you know, they could learn over a three-day period, obviously with ideally not to record, but to take that knowledge away from them.

SPEAKER_04 22:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:43

And then we're also uh looking at doing we're looking at doing a download, which is which is you know, more like showing you getting over properties, you know, like uh you know, getting over stuff, creating the beam from start to finish, but we're gonna be doing that on our on our web, on our on our we've got something going on with that. So you'll have to keep us informed. Just getting back to where I mean I was thinking of doing a you know, maybe someone else was telling me I should be doing a course for people to come into, but then I've got I'm also gonna be doing a download on my imitation oak beans on our website, which is not gonna be on the on the actual imitation oak beans, it's gonna be part of a separate entity which we're gonna be uh promoting. What's your website called, Ernie?

SPEAKER_06 23:37

Imitation Oak Beams at co.uk I'll tell you what I'll do, I'll link it from magazine. So if you go into Latham Plaster magazine, there'll be a direct link right through to Ernie's website. And what what what's your company called? What's your company called?

SPEAKER_03 23:58

Yeah, imitation oat beams. It's imitation. Imitation O Beans.

SPEAKER_06 24:02

Oh, fantastic.

SPEAKER_03 24:03

Um we we sort of own all the all the sort of like you.uk and stuff, but we're sort of doing that. And we're also going to be doing a download, which is which is what we wanted to promote, is that like I didn't want I don't want to promote it in a way that it's like a dog like I said to uh Rob, my my bloke who does my uh dump me uh dump my website, is that I don't really want the people involved in it that want to join a gym and doesn't really want to go. It's all the people that really want to learn. Yeah, yeah. So like it'd be a waste of money, it's a waste of money that you want to join join something, you don't want to get the six pack, do we say? So this is what we're gonna be doing. We're gonna be doing a download and then we're gonna be releasing some probably about 12 videos over a period of time. We're gonna show you from start to finish how to do one, and then we're gonna be doing and then we're gonna be doing on top of that is about another 12 videos and doing some newsletters of going out, just letting people know what's going on, maybe be involved, you know, uh with videos that we do with the projects coming up.

SPEAKER_06 25:19

King magazine will be fine with that. Yeah, they will start magazine with that and promote you through there as well.

SPEAKER_03 25:26

You know, and I think it's a universal thing, as you know. I think uh you know, we use plaster all over the world, and I know our products are bit different than should we say Australia or Spain or America or wherever you may be, but the the the the the the end design is the same. It could be done. Yeah, and we're gonna be looking at, I mean, I'm looking at right now, I'm looking at doing uh I've never I've done one outside one that I was copying a a fake Tudor house, excuse me, and then it was it was it's a bit the the the beams were a bit shit to be fair. Yeah, and uh so I just copied what was already there. It looked like someone had just pretended just it was terrible. I did one, put too much lime in it, it cracked, I could redo it, and I sort of achieved the goal. But I do know now that I could do one outside. I know that I could do one on a corner of a building in my head on hard do it.

SPEAKER_05 26:34

Well you've just answered you've just answered what was gonna be my next question.

SPEAKER_03 26:41

Yeah, you could, yeah, and absolutely, and it's you know, is is the the the thing is what I'm gonna have to test is whether you put a stabilizer solution on it and then you put the oil on it, would that penetrate enough? So there's a few experiments I'm gonna be doing, and I'll probably do it on that on this download that once I've achieved that goal, then you know, there'd be a there'd be a course on that as well. So you know, it's about uh incorporating this old this oldness that we got that we miss, we miss it in pubs, we miss that old country log fire and the old buildings and this stuff. Missing clubs they need a solution to make when they put a steel in. Yeah, most I think you know it's people love real oak, and I get that all the time about people saying, you know, why don't you just buy a real one? Well, I'm not the answer to everybody's problem. I'm a solution to a problem.

SPEAKER_05 27:36

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 27:37

And that's all you are.

SPEAKER_05 27:39

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 27:40

You know, I'm gonna I you know, I I'm I take away all the structural testing, I take away all that, and when there's no when there's nothing there, you can build them, you know, you can build one on a root on a ceiling, just follow the joists, you know, go across the joys. If you're going the other way, just drill holes like you would do when you're putting lighter fittings in, and you put patterns up. So there's plenty of there's plenty of ways to to achieve the goals, but um these are all going to be done on this website on this on this training course. So you know, there's there's a couple of things going on with it all really at the moment. So you know, it's all new to me to say.

SPEAKER_06 28:21

So a questionnaire, so basically, you start off with like strips of plaster board, cut them with through your beam, and then you start building up with the plaster. Is is that correct?

SPEAKER_03 28:31

Yeah, that's that's basically where we took Yeah. I mean, it was only about a year ago that I actually started slanting the corners off. You know, like just to give it a little bit more body. And I, you know, again, like I I I went in a house, this one in in this one round the corner from me that I'd done the joining up and everything. In the Airbnb, they've got they've got these round ones, and they're original, and it's an old meal. And uh, I feel to achieve that, all you need to do is just put the the bee the plaster boards to be say like that, and then fix another one smaller, and then maybe fix another one strip, and then you get that shape and you can find that responding, yeah, and then you do your your creative ones over the top of it. Over the top, yeah. So it's you know, these are all things that we were gonna be challenging and doing over the over a period of this this year.

SPEAKER_06 29:24

So how how long are you leaving before you before you start putting stain on? You have to let them totally dry out, you know.

SPEAKER_03 29:31

Yeah, you gotta let so when you are applying these oils and you know, it's important to keep your brushes, you know, to buy brushes when you need them, and don't use old brushes when you know you've got to buy to close everything down and to get the grain in and to calm everything. It's important to have new brushes and yeah, but it's all done so you don't lose the grain in that. Yeah, I think uh absolutely. Yeah, we we you know sometimes I've actually gone through the hole of the beam. That wasn't it wasn't hiding nothing really, I just built it. We we built this beam out of batteries and so forth, and then we put a hole all the way through. So we used a bit of piping. Yeah, yeah, and then made it like there was a bolt that would run through, and then we had into that. So there's all these little things that you just sort of like learn and it gives another string to your bow, really.

SPEAKER_05 30:31

I just I just f I just find them fascinating and the actual word that goes into it just blows my structure because it's like you can't tell the difference. And that's that's the amazing thing about it. Absolutely. I have a question. Would you like us to link your videos into the magazine when you do it?

SPEAKER_03 30:55

Yeah, I have no qualms about that. Yeah, well, yeah, I mean pictures and videos, I think I don't know whether Rob's would be flying them over to you. Rob does all my sort of like I'm I'm I'm the physical, I do the physical stuff. He's the one that's got the he's the one that does the manicures and has the manicules and got the fingertips, you know, not no calluses on his hands or anything like that. So I do the graft, he does the like he does the stuff.

SPEAKER_06 31:23

I think what we what we can do is like um when you put a video out there, we we can feature that in magazine. We are still write-up because a magazine doesn't actually run videos, but we can do links directly through to your YouTube video and a you know, still in a write up about it and direct traffic direct, you know, through to you. And yeah, you know, we can promote you as everyone you promote us, you know what I mean? It's a two-way thing. You know, you promote us, you help us promote a podcast, promote magazine, we help you promote your business, you know. And it seems to America everybody comes on board, you know, they might bring more people on board with them. So that's the idea behind it to get it out there. Magazine's got a hell of a following uh source of podcasts, you know. It's unreal. Our largest audience is America by far. And that's both Fruit Magazine and Fruit Podcast.

SPEAKER_05 32:26

And the podcast, yeah. Oh the Americans will jump the Americans will jump on this for fun.

SPEAKER_03 32:34

I think the I've got a friend of mine, I've got I've uh he's got a he's got a lovely, beautiful house. Absolutely stunning. And I did a few I did a I've done beams for him and he he's he could sell sands to the Arabs. He's an absolute genius. He's you know, like he's always got his fingers in many pieces, the builder, but he does he does his he does his thing, and he said to me, you know, that you could be doing this in Dubai, he said he said you don't you don't realise the the the world, you know. I don't think you realize how you go there. Especially it's when they see your work compared to somebody else's work, and I'm I'm I'm not slagging any you've got to take into consideration, I'm not slagging anybody off for what they do. They've all everybody's got their own method, and some of the fantastic plastering you see going on. It's amazing some of it, very artistic in that. I've got my way, I believe I've made the mistakes that everybody's made, you know, and I know mine, I I know I know mine are there. Brilliant without blowing my own trumpet, I just know mine yeah.

SPEAKER_06 33:46

You're top mine there. Basically top of your trade. No to us about it, lads. Um we've kind of run out of time on on the the the podcast. So, first of all, I'm gonna thank Eddie for coming along and sharing his knowledge, and you know, you just need to go and look at his work, and you'll be blown away, like me and Mick are absolutely superb, absolutely unbelievable. And the next thing I always say always say to people when they come on, who's your favourite artist and what kind of music do you like? And me and Adi's got this sorted, haven't we, mate? We've got this one. We've got this one sorted, so we're not we're not telling Mick and we're not telling anybody else, but we have it sorted. So thanks for coming on on board, Aidie.

SPEAKER_05 34:37

And please keep us updated. Uh we're gonna play some music for you right now.

SPEAKER_02 34:41

Here we go.

SPEAKER_00 34:58

And the dropship is a good idea.

SPEAKER_06 37:47

Well, that was great. Great that listening to Eddie, wasn't it? Yeah, top man, absolutely, and like we said before, go on the magazine Latin Plasty, www.latinplasty.com. Look at there and look at his work and read about it. What a top man, absolutely. So, right, anyways. Yeah, Mick, it's that time of the week again. What time of week is it? What time of the week is that? Wanker of the week. Oh, Wanker of the Week.

SPEAKER_04 38:19

Oh, one of our favourite bits.

SPEAKER_06 38:20

Oh, it's your favourite bit. Everybody seems to be loving this upon. Right, okay. Well, who we're gonna go for Wanker of the Week this time? Come on.

SPEAKER_05 38:31

Well, let's be really honest, it's got to be I can't remember her bloody name, but she's part of the wonderful Labour govern government that we've got in. And the reason for it is basically she wants to give illegal asylum seekers £40,000 to leave the country voluntary. And we've got veterans sleeping on the streets, pensioners that can't afford to keep themselves warm and feed themselves, and she wants to give them £40,000. I want to become an illegal asylum seeker.

SPEAKER_06 39:08

You know, £40,000. I think you've got to earn like £60,000 a year to get 40 grand next. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04 39:19

Exactly.

SPEAKER_06 39:20

Check in the fucking piss. So this time, yeah. Yeah, so this time it's gotta be yeah, Labour government wanker a week. What do you say, Mick? You've nominated them, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 39:33

All day long, all day long.

SPEAKER_06 39:35

So there we go, wanker's a week, collective this time, collective. Yeah, coming a bit one-sided, this, you know what I mean? It's gonna be one sided, innit? You know what I mean? But here we go.

SPEAKER_08 39:48

I'm a wanker, I'm a wanker, and it does me good luck. It doesn't mean one should I'm a wanker. I'm a wanker, and I'm always pulling my hood.

SPEAKER_06 39:58

Great. Okay, so we're coming to end up podcast. It's it's been a good one. We enjoy it, we really enjoy it. Thanks everybody for listening. Carry on, share it, listen, tell your mates, whatever. It's growing over six thousand downloads now in five months. Bloody hellfire, unreal. I think when we set off, I think I think we had a target if we get like ten people to download it, something stupid like that. You know what I mean? It's just like growing beyond, growing beyond.

SPEAKER_05 40:28

If I remember rightly, the target was a thousand for new year in September.

SPEAKER_06 40:35

So a few months were.

SPEAKER_05 40:37

I think we yeah, I think we smashed that one out of the water because somebody decided to move the target forward.

SPEAKER_06 40:43

Oh, I agree with that.

SPEAKER_05 40:45

Possibly think that could be. We smashed that one out of the park. We then got a target of I think it was after everything started growing 5,000 for the middle of March. And guess what? We smashed that one.

SPEAKER_06 41:04

Right, new target, Mick, your new target. I want to try to think what the new one's gonna be right. Middle of March now, so with six thousand downloads, get ten thousand downloads. Let's be realistic. Middle of April.

SPEAKER_05 41:20

No May Stop ticking. I'd say June to be on the safe side, mate. If he's took his six September, October, no six months to six thousand, mate. We're probably looking at another three months.

SPEAKER_06 41:37

Fair cool, fair cool. Right, okay. So we want to do it for the middle of April then. Well, if you want to surprise us, guys, fill your boots. You want to help us reach our target? Oh, well and done. Anyway, well, thanks, thanks very much for listening. Thanks, Ray, for coming on. Um, yeah, massive thank you, Brady. Massive thank you. This is where you normally interrupt and say some bollocks when I'm trying to shut the show down. What what what's alright? We're coming to an end, so it's a goodbye from me, Dave. Go on, it's a goodbye from me, Mick. See you again. Bye. Bye.

SPEAKER_02 42:18

Bye.

SPEAKER_01 42:20

All the way to look on the lights I the flight. All the way to look on the large law, nice.