The Truth About the Trade – With Mr Christopher Kelly”

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This one’s a proper trade conversation — no scripts, no polishing it up… just how it really is.

We’re joined by special guest Mr Christopher Kelly, a plasterer with real experience, real stories, and a proper understanding of the craft.

In this episode we get into:
👉 what the trade is really like behind the scenes
👉 lessons you only learn the hard way
👉 the standards that separate good from great
👉 and a few honest truths that don’t always get said out loud

It’s the kind of chat you’d hear on site, in the van, or over a brew — and that’s exactly how we like it.

No gimmicks. No acting.
Just plasterers talking plastering.

If you’re on the tools, this one’s for you.

Transcript

SPEAKER_07 0:47

Hey Mick, how are you? I'm not very bad, Dave. How are you? Yeah, good. All good. You've noticed a bit of a Scottish feel about the show tonight. Okay, the new or what have you. So you have noticed a bit of a Scottish feel about it all. I'm just wondering if Donald's got his trousers on. Those bloody trousers. Unless Donald.

SPEAKER_11 1:11

I've just come down from the Isle of Sky and the Big Nam Shy and the masses shout.

SPEAKER_07 1:48

Oh, brilliant. Yeah, been a Scottish philong today. So who we get on who we got on with tonight? Have we got anybody for tonight? Oh, hang hang on, before we go, quickly. I've been in touch with Eddie the Eagle. Try and get Eddie the Eagle on board. Oh yeah. But flown away a moment, busy jumping off bloody mountains or something. But I'll keep on with that. But if we don't end up with bloody person, Percy's a bloody pigeon or something like that, won't we? You know what I mean? But uh keep on with it.

SPEAKER_09 2:23

We'll see how it plans out. Yeah, try and get it. Hopefully he might come, he might come on land in a bit, we might be able to get hold of him.

SPEAKER_07 2:29

Deagle has landed.

SPEAKER_09 2:32

Exactly.

SPEAKER_07 2:33

So you never know, we might get him. Keep trying. Send him enough bloody emails, they'd probably give up eventually, won't they? So I'm gonna go. I'll be going straight into spam, won't it? Anyway, on with the show. So who have we got on tonight? Any idea? Have we anybody?

SPEAKER_09 2:52

We yeah, we have. We've got a bit of a Scottish legend on tonight, haven't we? That's why we've got the Scottish theme on. Well, at least I hope is why we've got the Scottish theme on. Well I've got to be. We've got a guy from up Aberdeen Way. Goes by the name of Chris Kelly.

SPEAKER_07 3:11

Yeah, Mr. Christopher Kelly. Legend in his own lifetime. Absolutely. To be fair, I come across Chris on Facebook looking at his work on one thing, and I thought, wow, this guy's a star. You know what I mean? He does no institute work and what have you. So let's get him on board and see what he has to say. So let's get him introduced. So tonight, directly from Scotland, we have Mr. Christopher Kelly. The work he does is that's you know, of this world. I came across him on Facebook looking at his work, and you know, it's unbelievable. Very, very skillful, very, very talented. So I want to introduce you all the way from Scotland, Mr. Christopher Kelly. Hi, Chris. How are you?

SPEAKER_01 5:07

I'm good, thank you, David. Yourself.

SPEAKER_07 5:09

Yeah, you can reply, you're all right. That's me, that's my mate over there, Mick. Say hi, Mick. No, he's been right, Chris. So right, Chris. So, you know, you top of the draw what you do, really skillful, all restoration work, heritage work, running in situ. How did you learn? Where did you save your time?

SPEAKER_01 5:36

I served my time at the local council, uh, Aberdeenshire council. And about a year into that, I got a move to a move of depot, and I got a new journeyman, and he liked to talk, and he was a very good plasterer, very well respected and known in the area, and other guys looked up to him. And you see, I was keen and he wanted to teach me. So whilst doing council work, the one that really pushing the boundaries of plastering, he would explain a lot to me. And in later life, as I've gone on to try harder things, I can remember him telling me certain things, and I can use them in my work today. And I'm very grateful for the time and effort he put into me. Yeah. So yeah. When I went away to college doing blog release, they started introducing us into corners work in situ and fibrous and mold making. And I really enjoyed that, but there was no avenue for jobs like that in the council. So again, Bill just explained as much as he could, and he went into great detail and length because we could be in a house for three, four days at a time, and he would just pick a topic and talk about it, and then I was really grateful. Then the time at the council came at the end, and I went to work in a big firm in a local city in Aberdeen, and uh they did quite a lot of corners work, but it was generally one guy that did it. Yeah, yeah. Then he was in the Monday club, so one Monday he didn't turn up, and the job was the job was booked in, and the boss says, Could you do it? And I said yes, and I gave it a go. And from then, like I just used exactly everything I learned at the college. I took it straight on to this job and it worked. And then little by slowly, I just kept saying yes to the next job, even though it scared me. I just I wasn't sure how I would do it, but I committed to the next job, then the next job, then the next job, and little by slowly I managed that one, then I managed that one, then I managed that one. And it's just built up. And I've you know, I've used lots of resources, you know. YouTube's quite good. I've I've got the the plasterers, Bibles. Talking out to other tradesmen has been really good, like the plasterers talk group, it's like reaching out to I can't remember. There were a few plasters on there and asking questions, and they're happy to reply and in return them asking me. And it's it's just went from there. Me and my partner got away websites and corner specialists, and we've just picked away from there over the last 15 years, I would say, and it's gone quite well.

SPEAKER_07 8:36

Brilliant. That's really good. I do know what you mean about being scared on jobs. I remember walking to a job and I'd rip a lump of cornish down. I'd turn around and thought, there's only me, you can pull that back. You know what I mean? I better have a go at it. And and he, you know, when he when he started doing Cornish work in situ, you look round and look round, and there's probably no one else around with him skills to do it. So, you know, you you learn the stuff in college, and you're then putting all that into practice, and you know, you got lots of lads in college, like mixed teaching in college now. Oh, why am I learning moulding? I'll never do it, and all this more like it. The clever lads do because they know they can make a lot more money for a lot less effort, exactly. You know what I mean? And you don't have to throw eight before plaster boys on the ceiling every day of your damn life, and stick them on a wall, do you? You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_09 9:32

If you battle in it, half of the bottle, mate.

SPEAKER_07 9:36

Yeah, you're roll up on site. We I used to roll up with a working mate, a little vice and a piece of zinc or something like that, make an incision into mold with some caught a copy of cardboard, start again, copped it onto a piece of cardboard, then onto a piece of metal and start whittling away. And we're earning more than lads throwing on bloody eight before is on and skimming them, going on, necking them, smaller. So this is easier money.

SPEAKER_09 10:03

Yeah, and and no, I think I think the point we're trying to get across really is that you need to listen to the old hands. Yeah, definitely, and take it on board.

SPEAKER_08 10:13

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_09 10:14

Because a lot of this gets bypassed, even on the bulk standard solid plaster. Yeah. The young kids come in and think they know everything, and then as soon as they have a problem, they're like, Oh, what do I do now? Well, if you'd have listened and paid attention, that would have been explained to you at some point. Yeah. Yeah. And again, my attitude's always been, I'm always at the end of a phone if you need answers. Yeah, yeah. That's what's your thinking means.

SPEAKER_07 10:44

Still doing the same.

SPEAKER_09 10:46

It means more than that, doesn't it, Dave?

SPEAKER_07 10:48

Yeah, you've got to give back, you know. Me and Mick, we do these podcasts with you know, books, magazines, whatever. Giving it all back, it's all voluntary. We don't make a penny from it, we'll just do it. In fact, it costs us money, but we've got to pay for podcasts, you know, for hosting time. But it's it's like we're all being, you know what I mean? We enjoy doing it and we we end up clicking, pissing, and having a laugh around the crack and what have you. But you yeah, you you've got to listen, you've got to listen to older lads, you know, who's been around and done it. They call us old school. Some people refer to us as bloody dinosaurs. I got called that man many times, still damn well do. You know what I mean? But end of the day, you you've you've you've done it, haven't you? You know, you know what I mean? You you've you've you've you've done it. You know someone you know who's learned a bit from and stuff like that. Yeah, right. And you know that is half the battle, yeah. That that that is definitely after definitely after battle. There's no two-is about that. Um, like the kind of work that you do, Chris, you know, running in situ, I think it's got to be so it has to be so precise. There's no ifs and buts about it. You you can walk into a room, and I always say there's two types of mould. There's one you can walk in and think, who the fucking hell's done that? And you walk in, where the fuck is it? You know what I mean? Because someone's had a go, everybody's door light up, and and what have you, it's been painted up, and you know, and then you can walk into a room again, it's been properly repaired, and you can't even tell. You're looking around, well, what's it where's he think where's he done it? You know what I mean? And and that's the level where you are, Chris. I am, and you know, Mickey's about being big headed, and and that's the level you you've got to aim towards. You don't want to do that. Who the fuck's done that? You wanna where the fuck is it, don't you? Do you agree, lads?

SPEAKER_09 12:42

Well, you get you get I get to the attitude, it's like some some some houses you can walk into, they've got a nice cornice up, and you look at it and you're like, wow. Yeah, it's like we moved recently and we've got a niche in our living room in one of the alcoves. My missus hated it. Yeah, yeah. She's like, you'll have to rip that out and blast it up. I'm like, you have not got a chance of me doing that, because I know how much work's gone into it. Yeah, yeah. And then as people have come round, they've seen it, they've got, oh, I do like that. Yeah, so her mindset's completely changed now. She likes it now, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I I think the drawback is with the corners and a lot a lot of what we class as into two arches and the like, so people classes and dating old fashioned, yeah, which is wrong. Yeah, really, because it's the time and effort that's gone into it to make it look as good as it does. Yeah, and I think that's a part a part that needs to be brought out more on the educational side than the solid stuff, because at the minute everybody's pushing the solid.

SPEAKER_08 14:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 14:01

And all the institute and the fire stuff, if we're not careful, is gonna die away.

SPEAKER_07 14:07

Yeah, it's like you've just gone back into teaching, yeah. And you know, it's not not part of your curriculum now, it's you know, this level three don't really exist, and what qualifications you've done, I've done, Mick's done, don't exist now. And you what are you teaching, Mick? Are you teaching any fibers? Are you teaching any moulding at all? Is there anything in your we've done we've done some with the level ones this year, right?

SPEAKER_09 14:35

But it's not actually in the syllabus for introduction. Right. So we've done it as basically like a stretch exercise, yeah, to prove the point that this is so much I wouldn't say easier, because it's not easier because you're working a lot faster using the casting, and it's more having the eye for detail and and spotting the imperfections before they actually become a massive issue.

SPEAKER_08 15:04

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_09 15:05

And a lot of the kids just can't get their heads around the fact that I've got to go quick with this because I haven't got time. And the annoying the annoying bit for for me is when they've mixed it up and it's that thick, and they stood there thinking to themselves, oh I'll just pour some water into this and I can wet it down. It's not going to happen. So that's the fun bit. Um I don't think there's much in the City and Gilles level two at the minute, either, to be fair.

SPEAKER_08 15:38

Okay.

SPEAKER_07 15:38

It's been diluted. Qualification that we've got has been diluted so much, you know what I mean? And that, you know, like I know Chris, you really want to get into teaching. It's somebody you've got, you know, you contacted me bad before, and you know, people like you, you'll be naming your own price realistically. You'll be going to a college and you'll you'll be like, you know, like good example, Mick Stunny's shouldering, gone back, you put his advert on LinkedIn and day after, job after as we're coming in, you know what I mean? You know, he has got all his teaching qualifications, you know what I mean, and you know, he's got years of it, but he's it's all the experience as well, and you know, so you're gonna become like uh well, yeah, a rare commodity, simple as you know, and and yeah, teaching opportunities will be there for you. And you know, we've seen many times on these podcasts your body doesn't last forever, it works where you know, where you sell out, and you'll get to the stage where even you can't repair cornics because it's hurting it, or doing something like that, but you've still got all the knowledge, and that's where you know the crazy the crazy bit is they're actually crying out beneath some blasphemy tubes.

SPEAKER_09 16:55

Yeah, okay, really are the bit of advice I would give to you, Chris, is go in part-time for starters, okay. So just go in and do a few sessions and see how see see how you feel about it.

SPEAKER_08 17:08

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_09 17:09

Because the knowledge side is the easy bit, yeah, and the hard bit is dealing with the kids that are there. Yeah, because nine times out of ten, they're not what we call like the academic kids that have done quite well. Yeah, you do get a lot of the problem, kids. I would definitely say go go and give it a go. Because you're actually nothing to lose. The talent you've got yeah, yeah, it's unreal. It's gonna become more prevalent. You know, I've heard rumour that they're trying to push for an actual heritage qualifier.

SPEAKER_08 17:55

Okay.

SPEAKER_09 17:56

Now, if that comes through, who's gonna teach you? You're gonna be you're going to be laughing.

SPEAKER_07 18:03

Sorry if I'm pushing the qualifications, sorry from pushing the qualifications through, but who the hell can teach you? Like you probably go back exactly 10-15 years ago. You might remember this. They introduced part of level three qualifications, Skaglioli. Okay, fair who the hell can do it. You know what I mean? We're going to sit in guilds and sitting down with them saying, Well, you've introduced Skaglioli, who can actually do it? And you know, yeah, they're the qualifications are in by academics and not by plasters, you know, we should introduce this and what have you. Then when they you know they have a board meeting and plasters get round, oh well, we don't anybody can do that, you know, you know what I mean. Yeah, and there's no call for it, and these days it'd be over Venetian plastering anyway, isn't it? You know what I mean? To produce you know, something similar, in it. So so yeah, you know, you go, like I say, you know, you start want to start thinking over the next 12 months of I need to get into this teaching, malarkey, and what do I really need to do? And I think we've we've all had to like we've had two extra things. I had to learn how to use a computer, I had to the computer course, basic one. I mean, so basic, what's the mouse? You know, what what's your screen and what really computer course for dummies, you know what I mean? And but that's where you had to say.

SPEAKER_09 19:26

Yeah, it's absolutely bonkers. It is, and like you'll tend to find though if you get in with a decent a decent head of blastering, yeah, they'll they'll help you along the way as well. Okay, it's just it it sounds like a really daunting task at first, and you first win you're a little bit jittery, yeah. Yeah, and as daft as it sounds, even though you know you know what you're talking about, you actually start to second guess yourself at first. You do, yeah, which is a little bit weird. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you you sort of check in constantly that people are taking on board what you're saying. And then you'll get to the stage where I did when I first started, where you finish up doing it for them. Okay, yeah, which does all the matter because I remember I remember a certain somebody saying to me, mate, how do you think they're gonna learn if you keep doing it all for them? How is boss? How are his boss? Were you gonna think about it? Well, I remember see somebody stumping, and your your attitude is right, I've got to go and help him sort that out.

SPEAKER_07 20:40

Yeah, yeah. I I would exactly say, man, you know, when with me, one of my first lessons are like lads putting about 15 walls put on, and I'm walking around. Well, they're not travelling up, and I'm going around traveling all the bloody walls up from enter jail and programs. What are you doing that for? I said, Well, they're not toweled up, they don't have to be, it's what they do. Oh, right, and you like got your your head on where I'm a plastered, all that's be smooth and straight and what have you, you know what I mean? It's just a different thing where you know you you are this teacher, and you're right. Well, that's as good as you've done next week. We'll get a bit better. Like Mick does he'll get them to photograph their own work and then well, that's what you did last week, that's where you are now, you know what I mean? And the showing the progression type of thing. That's a brilliant one.

SPEAKER_09 21:28

Yeah. First time they ever do a ball, like the first time they ever run a cornice or anything. Yeah. Get them to photograph it and tell them to keep it until the end of the year. Yeah. Then as you get the progressing through the year, right, take another one now. Now compare it to your first one. And it's like showing them that they can see an improvement. And that's half of the battle. If they can't see an improvement, then you basically find a losing battle. What tends to happen is nine times out of ten, they they look at it and they go, Oh yeah, that bit doesn't look right now, and that bit's a bit shit, and that don't and it starts picking photos with itself. Yeah, which is brilliant. It does sound like a daunting task when you first go into it, but just give it a go. Don't it don't don't hit the situation of ever saying to yourself, I wish I'd done that. Just give it a go. If it if it's not for you, it's not for you. And that's that's the way to look at it. And at the end of the day, you've always got us two to give a shout if you need it.

SPEAKER_07 22:47

Yeah. You reached out to us a couple of times about getting to teaching and what have you. Yeah, but all the time to do it. Yeah, this is so so are you somebody you're gonna think about? Chris, is it thing somebody gonna look?

SPEAKER_01 23:03

Yeah, I am gonna think about it. Like I live way up northeast Scotland where Ames Tapin's totally destroyed plastering. Yeah, but there is still a core of us left, and I've noticed as I'm getting older, the younger guys are asking for advice. Yeah, and I'm starting to give them it, and I'm starting to go and help and show them. Whereas before I wouldn't, it was like, no, I know it, I'm gonna use that for me making money. Yeah, whereas now I'm going along and helping them in their jobs and talking to them.

SPEAKER_09 23:40

So in fact, you're actually doing teaching, but you're not realizing you're doing it.

SPEAKER_01 23:44

Well, yeah, I I don't I don't want to go to the grave not passing it on because it was given to me freely with love, yeah, care. So I would like to pass it on now.

SPEAKER_07 23:54

Yeah, that's exactly where me and that's up to us, but it's up to us, you know, to do it. Master plasters and plasters, you you know, if you don't pass it on, who's gonna do it? You know what I mean? But you know what one of the problems we we said, you know, when teachers in colleges, you know, a lot of they just mend the lads off site and they're having to relearn how to or learn how to do a lot of fibrous work, you know what I mean? So it's all new to them. And so you you know, you do have this knowledge and it's gonna be passed on. Well, whether you're teaching it, you're writing it, or whatever, but you you know, it has to to go out there. We really have to, you know, to get it on there, we passed it.

SPEAKER_09 24:38

Yeah, we've got we've got to push it to keep it alive, yeah, yeah, definitely. Because otherwise it'll just it'll just die off. Yeah, yeah. And then you're gonna watch a lot of lovely historic buildings just go to waste.

SPEAKER_07 24:50

What do you think of old buildings can work in? All buildings that you work in, all the buildings you work in, castles and things like that, who you know, if you weren't doing them, who can be doing them?

SPEAKER_01 25:01

Yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah, you're right enough for yeah. There's a couple of guys up here doing they're always busy, I'm always busy. Yeah, and like I say, because taping destroyed the trade so much, there's no fibrous workshops up here, everything is done by plasterers in situ.

SPEAKER_07 25:21

Yeah, yeah, the old fashioned that's that is plastering, you know what I mean. Like you say, everything is done by plastering, so you you're making like we had this discussion, you know, plastering is the most skillful job there. So about it. You want a fancy piece of wood, you go and buy it. You know, you want a fancy brick, someone's made it for you. You want some of the fancy, you get a bag of bag of dust and a bucket of water, and away you go, you know what I mean. It's up to you to to do it, innit? You know what I mean? And so yeah, you know, it it is, and you know, we're talent, you know, we are skillful people. Plasters are very skillful people. There's no choice about it, definitely. And Ruth I still think we're a different mindset. Oh bloody help, Nick. Me and you bloody meet most definitely.

SPEAKER_01 26:15

If you ever know ever noticed, you go on the site, like joiners will stand and talk, painters, plumbers, sparkies are all stand and talk. They'll have half an hour for their tea break, an hour for their lunch.

SPEAKER_08 26:28

Yeah, you can't.

SPEAKER_01 26:29

Plusters never stop from the moment from the moment they're in to the moment they leave. They're go, go, go.

SPEAKER_09 26:36

Yeah, and then you get that why are you going at half past two? Because I haven't stopped, whereas you've probably done about two hours work. Yep, yeah. And that that always used to wine meal. Yeah, always.

SPEAKER_07 26:50

I don't know. You're working with like a team of builders, joining some plumbers. You you have to be a bit antisocial because you can't stop when they stop at 10 o'clock for a brew. You can't do that. You might have your first mix on halfway through with traveling up, yeah. Yeah, so basically, yeah, yeah. So, you know, we we do become well, this special person where you you depend to rely on your own abilities, and it's like you said before, Chris, you walk onto a job, and sometimes you're scared of doing it because you're thinking in your head, how the hell can I do this? You know, a lot of plastic are in exactly the same situation. You walk onto a job, and realistically, I think about 35 before I could walk onto a job thinking yeah, I've been an idea what to do. You know what I mean? And yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely times, you know. Oh, that'd be right. What about trying this? So that works better. Yeah, you know what I mean. And it's only by mechanical. We've got about five minutes though. Yeah, we'll have to stop in them soon. We've about five minutes to go, but uh yeah, we this this is it. So we've we've uh we are special type of people, and that that's it, and you know what I mean. Anyway, Chris. There's a special mindset, anyway. Let's put it on we're not rated, we're not rated head always see us. That's why we do these podcasts because we have different mentalities, yeah. I don't know any.

SPEAKER_01 28:17

Go on, show you up, go on last five minutes. I don't know. Last few minutes, go on. I don't know, I don't know any good plasterers who don't like their work. You know, everybody is good at it enjoys.

SPEAKER_09 28:29

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 28:30

I don't think that's a key.

SPEAKER_07 28:32

Well, absolutely love it. There's a saying in there, if you cut a plaster, it bleeds gypsum. You know what I mean? And it's it's true, innit? You know, proper plaster, it's in your DNA, you know, and you do yeah, you bleed gypsum, that's top and bottom. It's a it's either gypsum or weight or whiskey. Probably with Chris should be whiskey as all Scotland. Same for me anyway. Sure of you. We're coming we're coming to the podcast now, we're running out of time. Chris, it's been a bloody great having on board. Thanks for coming on board. You know, carry on your boys and you know, keep us informed with what you're doing, and let's all be getting to teaching, you know. We want to see you apply for your masterplaster, definitely. So, yeah, last thing I say to people is what reckon you know if you played a piece of music, what would you like me to play it for you?

SPEAKER_01 29:29

I would like to play a Scottish man called Jerry Cinnamon, it's very hoppy, upbeat party music.

SPEAKER_07 29:37

Never fucking heard of him.

SPEAKER_09 29:41

Well, guess what, David?

SPEAKER_07 29:43

I have. Oh, you would have. You fucking would have. Oh, fuck me, right. All right, I'll see if I can find that.

SPEAKER_09 29:54

Oh no, you need to Google one of his songs called Canter because you love it.

SPEAKER_07 29:59

Which one we played? It's the one I've requested. Which one we played? Yeah, that one you request. Oh right, so just in choosing again before we go. What's it called, Chris? What's it called?

SPEAKER_01 30:13

That piece of Cantor by Jerry Cinnamon.

SPEAKER_07 30:18

So there we go. We'll play that piece of music for you. So thanks for coming. I'm we'll see you again.

SPEAKER_05 30:23

We're gonna play some music for you right now. Here we go.

SPEAKER_03 30:50

You better stop moving like you're running out of time The Realization comin' over your mind That should be a cut If you can just bring the I know like you be a cut up your judge that we but less of a like Mel in half of the time This is the beginning of the rest of your life You better start crafting kids, you're running out of time The roof is on fire, it's raining out of time But it should be a cut up If you can just think the You know it could be a cut dump If you'll just a wee bell let's have a wine car Mel in half of the time Because the hardest part of the game That's not even playing the game It's caring enough to care about the things that you'll take Oh it's a weak guy That's just a big guy that's the eye You bust on the craft and give you running out of time The riff is on fire and outside But it should be a catalycta You know it could be a catal Have you just tell me the let's talk about my God Will they have a die They tell you that it's hard They tell you it's impossible to mend a broken heart Till they draw an appetite pretending that it's not to see the fish when you don't know where to start a five year old and play something like a black never be a game when you're acting like a ball is out of the game playing the game Oh we got so Chris brilliant what a good man top man absolutely thanks for coming on board Chris really enjoyed talking top guy weren't he mick eh top man absolutely and he you know you get a chance you go on his Facebook, he's on lots of plastic groups, go and see what he does, he'd be blown out, blown away.

SPEAKER_07 35:09

Top guy, anyway. It's that time of week again, Mick. Favourite time, it's pretty much what time of week's that the people enjoying it on the wanker of the week time, yeah. Who've we got for this week? You know, you bloody hell fire. You spoil for choice, aren't you? Seriously, you spoil for choice, but to me it's gotta be but he said it can't, and Mare London. You know, only guy fucks up everything he does and get him gonna be made a bloody get an house in house, get a seat in the house of lords, be made a lord for fuck's sake. What's this coming to? Dave, what looking on the positive side?

SPEAKER_09 35:53

Come on, there's hope for us yet then.

SPEAKER_07 35:58

I think we swear too much. So right, let's go for it. Wanker of the week, Sonic gone, beyond a doubt. Do you agree with that, Mike? Yeah, I'll have to agree with you there. Brilliant. Got to be the ultimate totter for this week. Ultimate topic for this week. So, Sonic Gone, you are a wanker of the week.

SPEAKER_00 36:20

I'm a wanker, I'm a wanker, and it does me good luck. It really won't shoot. I'm a wanker, I'm a wanker, and I'm always bullied my hood.

SPEAKER_07 36:29

Mick, didn't it? Scottish field. I'll tell you a story now. Now, what it is, when I first come out of my time, we're going back to like 1977, and one of my first jobs, I work in a village called Oswald Twistle. It's a small largest village, really. And I live on side, you know, young lad, I hadn't a bloody idea what I was doing, still don't have much idea. And I foreman took me to this house. Oh, you know, work with Jimmy when I went in, and this big guy came towards me, Scottish accent. The first thing he says, you best get a fucking move on, kid. I want my fucking bonus. I'm still doing shit in this house. Fucking nice big guy, you know. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he he dragged Timba, or mixing timba towards me. We make we're using this plaster, and we're using limelight plaster. I never come across that before. Horrible shit. Horrible shit. Never come across it. Anyway, working away, and what have you. And he said, Glad it. Talk about Tourette's syndrome on the bloody you know, overdrive on steroids. He would ever go after this, after that, whatever. Oh, it makes me look normal. Absolutely, that's difficult, but never mind. Anyway, it was this guy was out of his head, absolutely out of his head. So what he worked besides agent, he had a whistle like a referee's whistle, and what he'd do at 10 o'clock, he'd get his whistle, stand at the door of his cabin, blow his whistle, hello joiners and bricks and plumbers and trainters, go and have a break, blow it 15 minutes later, back to work. Dinner time, blow it, back to work, blow it. You know, we're going on plasters. You can't work to that either work to the material. Anyway, they were going bloody ballistic with this gym. I fucking hate that sign for him. I'll have him, I'll have him. Any day, work the day after, I walked in and he's heard a big smile on his face. First time I seen his smile, I thought he had indigestion or something. So big smile on his face, and he pulled out his pocket with a bloody whistle, and he'd been inside the agent's cabin and think he'd fucking whistle. So you know, comes like quarter to ten or something like that. Head out window, blowing bloody whistle, everybody stopping, going for a blues, going for a brew, and oh my god, and you know, I went through my another whistle, you know what I mean? He was taking that piece sight for him and we're going bloody mad. Who's got me whistle? Who's got me missile? Well, he went on for a couple of days, this didn't it? You know what I mean? No one went, knew when to go for a brew, when to stop it, what have you. So we were going on so what a character, anyway. Money were as well, another thing. He didn't he hated he hated spiky space, he hated electricians, and what he were, this was another young lad on site, probably one of his first jobs, and he'd left loads of tails sticking out of his boxes. He hadn't tucked them away nice and he was sticking out. So, what does he do? Oh no, what what does he do? He he says, Right, kid, this is what we do. He gets his 10 steps and he went round and cut all the tails off. Did he cut him short? Fucking short, about an inch sticking down into the box. I'll teach you to show him anyway. This young Sparky comes in and he says, Oh, you sparky, I fucking hate you. Why, why, well you looking around your boxes, I've cut all your tails off. And he had cut them off, big bar in corner. Well, this young sparky is panicking, he goes and gets sight agent. Sight agent's already pissed off at him because he nicked his whistle anyway. You know what I mean? And sight agent comes in, what have you been up to, you now? And like my mate, like we're mate, he's a Jimmy lad. What he did is looked at the electrician and said, You fucking grass. And he picked up his towel and threw it at him like an action. He stuck in wall behind. Sight agent, you know, starting Sammy do. He thumped sight agent, knocked him down, type of thing. Oh shit, I'm stood there panicking. Anyway, he's like ejected the belly sight agent, threw the thing at the belly at the spike, he threatened him, and he knew he'd be sat then, so he tools and pissed off off site, and bloody hell fire. I then got moved to another site, you know, nothing to do with me. But bloody hell fire. What a lunatic, an absolute bloody lunatic that were. So, yeah. Louis the lip, people called it. There are a few of them among us. Oh, yeah, absolute lunatic. Louis the bloody lip. Always fumer. Scribe me for life, that guy. Scribbed me for life. Rang, mate. I'm coming to end it's your now. So I hope we've all enjoyed it. Have you enjoyed it, mate? I've just been bored to tears. Have you woke up yet or what? Somebody's a wake up. He's gone back to it. Gone back to fucking sleeping again, hasn't it?

SPEAKER_09 42:07

No, I actually enjoyed speaking to Chris. Chris is uh very knowledgeable guy. Top guy works outstanding.

SPEAKER_07 42:18

Top drawer. We're just unearthing little gems everywhere, aren't we? Yeah, we we you know, there's so many good people come on board, and you know, good lads waiting. Can I come on board? Can I come on? You know, we're getting, you know, this week with with top seven and a half thousand downloads. So it's just going mad. We're aiming for the big 10,000, maybe more, hopefully a damn site more, and keep growing the podcast and you know, it's how far we actually get with. So, yeah, well, thanks to everybody for listening and tuning in and however you you download it or whatever. Thanks for everything you're doing. So, uh I can say it's a goodbye from he's gonna fall asleep now. We you won't bloody hear him, will we? He's gonna sulk now, isn't he? So it's a goodbye from me, Dave, and a goodbye from me, Mick. Oh my god, we actually got him then. All right, thanks a lot. See you again. Bye.

SPEAKER_04 43:19

Always look on the bright side of light. Always look on the light side of light.

SPEAKER_05 43:36

Light the pink point. Light you can. Always look on the right side of life. Come on, black, you up Always look on the right side of life Always look on the right side of life. First things at me see, you know. Always look on the right side of life. Then what you gotta lose? You know, you come from nothing, you're going back to nothing. What you lost? Nothing! Nothing will come from nothing, you know what I say? Cheer up, you old bugger. Come on, use it, quiz. There you are.