Join Mick and Dave along with The Queen of Casting Mary Little + a 90's Trivia Quiz

The Plasterers Podcast: The Mick & Dave Show. This is the most listened to independent  Pure Plastering Podcast across both the UK and the USA

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Join Mick and Dave along with the Queen of Casting herself — Mary Little — for another cracking episode packed with plastering chat, laughs, stories from the trade, and a proper trip back to the 1990’s with our latest trivia quiz!

From fibrous plasterwork and casting techniques to pure 90’s nostalgia, this one has a bit of everything. Expect banter, dodgy answers, and the usual load of bollocks along the way 🤣

Can you beat Quiz Master Mick?
How many of the 90’s questions can you get right without shouting at your phone?

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Transcript

SPEAKER_10 0:00

And five for action. Five. Four. Three.

SPEAKER_03 0:44

Hiya, Mick. How are you? Hi, Dave. I'm not very bad yourself. Yeah, pretty good, mate. Pretty good. I bet you you're happy about your team at the moment. It'd be rude not to be, wouldn't it? It'd be rude not to be. Mate, it took you bloody long enough to do it now, man. We won't we won't mention that, but no matter.

SPEAKER_04 1:01

Oh, here we go. Here we go. When's the last time Blackman won it?

SPEAKER_03 1:07

We've only won it once, but we are the only town team ever to win it. So get your head around that one. You all city teams have won it. London, Manchester, Liverpool, and what have you. So we are actually on the town team to win it. So all that apart, what are we on tonight's show?

SPEAKER_04 1:27

Well, we have got a wonderful female fibre plaster. Oh brilliant. By the name of uh Mary Little. Oh yes, Mary. Very popular on social media.

SPEAKER_03 1:45

Yeah. Very big on social media. Yeah, very big on social media's Mary. Anything else? There's I believe there's a quiz as well. Oh wow, that'll be good. That last them 90s trivia this week. 90s trivia. Them quizzes seem to be going down pretty well. They really do, especially the music quiz. If you if you like the trivia quiz, come and listen to the music quiz. They're getting hundreds and hundreds of downloads. They are really taking off big style. So without much more, let's get on with the colour. This evening we're very lucky to have with us a female fibrous plaster. Well known throughout social media, definitely, is Mary, Mary Little. So we're really honoured to have her with us. So heya, Mary, thanks for joining us. How are you? Hello, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:08

Thanks, guys, for having me on. It's really nice.

SPEAKER_03 3:11

Oh, brilliant. We we're glad to have you. You know, we've been male dominated. We've struggled to get ladies actually to take part. You know, we get cancellations like the kind of chicken out at last minute type thing, maybe.

SPEAKER_02 3:25

We're busy, we're busy girls, aren't we, David? We you know, we've got a lot to do. Like me, I'm still in my work clothes now, and it's half seven at night. We're busy women, aren't we? Hopefully, no, we get you some more girls on.

SPEAKER_03 3:38

Yeah, we're gonna have me too, yeah. That'd be brilliant. Waiting for me.

SPEAKER_02 3:42

That might wave's been waiting for you, is it Mick?

SPEAKER_03 3:46

Very cool. Oh, yeah. So, yeah, Mary, so you've been how long have you been doing fibrous plaster work?

SPEAKER_02 3:56

Oh, I've been in the fibrous well now. Well, most of my life, really. Well, all my life.

SPEAKER_03 4:02

My dad's on this, you're a young las anyway.

SPEAKER_02 4:06

I'm 31 now, I feel like I'm getting on a little bit.

SPEAKER_03 4:10

Well, double that, and that'll scroll. Double that and that's what we're doing.

SPEAKER_02 4:14

Oh, yeah, I'm just coming to my best years, and I my busiest years, but no, I'm at my prime, I reckon. That's what everyone says. But anyway, yeah, I've been doing it my whole life, in and out of the workshop. Yeah, so yeah, it's always been a bit of a passion. Even when I was a little kid, I used to just like going in and making little bits and bobs and like annoying my dad and my brother. So you still are doing that. Yeah, I'm still annoying them now. Yeah. I have got my own little workshop now, though, so when we have a little argument, I can go and storm off to my own yard and sulk there for a couple of weeks.

SPEAKER_03 4:51

So where do you have to be? Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 4:53

I'm quite enjoying the peace and quiet.

SPEAKER_03 4:55

Where's your own workshop at?

SPEAKER_02 4:57

Oh, it's literally two seconds down the road. Just round the corner. It's not far.

SPEAKER_03 5:04

That's not so bad, is it?

SPEAKER_02 5:05

Yeah, no, it's not far at all. It's literally just round the corner from our home yards, we call it. It's just like being at home. We've grown up round there, so in that in that workshop and around that yard our whole life. So, yeah, it is it is like home. Yeah, so it makes me laugh when people comment on social media and say how dirty it is and yeah, I need to clean up and all this, but we don't really mind it, sort of, yeah, it's sort of just part of the parcel, isn't it? The plaster workshop. Well, exactly. It's like the main piece, isn't it?

SPEAKER_04 5:38

Yeah, but do you find that the people that are telling you to clean up don't know anything about what you're doing?

SPEAKER_02 5:42

Oh, yeah, of course, all of them. Anyone that says anything negative are people that don't know what they're talking about. A good fibrous plaster as well, wouldn't be rude and disrespectful. That's the thing. They're they'll be fair. They see something that's wrong, they'll point it out, but they'll say, but you give it a good go. Do you know they wouldn't just rip you rip you apart, sort of thing? It's about respecting it.

SPEAKER_04 6:04

Yeah, sometimes it's like with us doing this, we get the odd troll every now and then. And it's so it's so hard not to just give them the two words.

SPEAKER_02 6:15

Oh, I do sometimes. I'm prolific for it, I'm infamous for my Facebook replies.

SPEAKER_04 6:23

See, I'm I'm the polite one. He's the one who does.

SPEAKER_02 6:26

Yeah, David gives it.

SPEAKER_04 6:29

I lose it again.

SPEAKER_02 6:30

Oh, I do sometimes. Me and my friends and my sister, you know, we sit there and we read through the comments. And if I'm I'm I love a wind up, obviously, that's what we're like. I've been brought up in a workshop around men, like I've been wound up my whole life. So if I see a comment on there and I think of something Sarkey to say back, like they're getting it. And yeah, I just sit there laughing at most of them, you know. It is it is funny.

SPEAKER_03 6:53

There's no wrong with that. Yeah, you're fine. A lot of it's just pure jealousy. You you know, you've probably done more than what they've done, and yeah, let's rib you to bits for what you've done. You let's not a professional person praises you, you know. Congratulations, yeah, of course. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 7:14

Uh yeah, they especially like our craft, they respect you, don't they? Because they know what it's like to learn a craft like that and the skill you need for it.

SPEAKER_04 7:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:22

So it speaks for itself, really.

SPEAKER_04 7:25

Yeah, but it's not only that, it's the years that go into getting to that stage, yeah. Which I always which is always forgotten about. And that is that's the bit that tends to wind me up a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 7:37

Yeah, it's like I said, it says dedication, isn't it? To it's sort of like you you're offended because you feel like these people are disrespecting you in a way.

SPEAKER_04 7:45

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 7:46

But you just gotta shake it off, really. I do get the odd, like just general arsehole. I think sometimes it would be like that's not how we do it at the studios, or you don't do it like this person or that person. Like, they're the sort of ones I just ignore because they are like just just angry, angry men mostly. I never have a woman say anything bad ever. I don't think I've ever been trolled by like a woman. Yeah, which is quite bad, really. I feel bad saying that, but that is generally the truth.

SPEAKER_04 8:16

Oh, I can't get that. That makes sense because me and Dave for years have always said there should be more female plastering.

SPEAKER_02 8:26

Yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_04 8:27

Because at the end of the day, people turn around and say, Yeah, but they can't lift bags, and I'm like, Are you having a laugh? Ah I laugh at them.

SPEAKER_02 8:36

I lift a ton of plaster in the yard a week.

SPEAKER_04 8:38

Exactly. So it's like you sat there and I'm like, really? Most most of the women of plaster can probably lift more than half the kids we've got in college.

SPEAKER_02 8:48

Yeah, definitely. I surprise myself sometimes. My dad knows, he says she's stronger than me. Like he openly admitted, you know, he's like, let like if there's something that needs lifting, my brother needs a hand. He looks at me and I'm like, Oh, don't worry, Dad, because my brother knows I'm gonna grab it instead of him. Do you know? He's getting on a bit now. But there was times obviously I used to watch my dad and brother and think, Oh, I'll never be able to lift that. I'll never be able to carry that mould or get that mould out as well. You know, the silicon as well as the wet casts, car, that's some of them things went, yeah, they're bloody heavy.

SPEAKER_04 9:22

Bloody heavy. Yeah, the eye, you know, it's not only getting them out the cast, though, is it? It's knowing how to carry them. So they've got to be able to get it.

SPEAKER_02 9:29

Oh, yes, then just getting them up off the table, knowing how to carry them, and then, like you said, boxing them up, you've got double of them, and you've got to balance them. Now, some people say, Oh, you're gonna kill your back, you need two people, but it's so annoying. I just don't even want to justify it to people on the internet sometimes that are being horrible. But I'm like, if you actually knew anything about that, you'd know it's one person job because you need to balance that weight to support the codes and to stop reduce the cracking and that, you know. There's that proper process to it.

SPEAKER_04 9:57

Yeah, but the drawback is if you've got two people and one of them hasn't got a clue what they're doing, yeah, it's finished, isn't it?

SPEAKER_02 10:05

Yeah, that's like when I go out on site or like loading the van or helping someone comes to the yard to pick up a load of stuff, they'll jump out to load the van, and me and my brother are sort of like, I said, all right, we'll do it, you know, and we show you how to do it. Yeah, because most of the times, you know, I've got site before, and they said, now we get off the van. And when I was like a younger woman, you know, like 17 in my little van, I wouldn't really say anything. I'd be like, uh scared to say, don't do that, because you know, but now I'm like, you will you're gonna fuck that if you do that again, do you know? Like I honestly, it makes me angry. Sorry for swearing, sorry. But that's how you've got been some men. Like me personally, do you know when I I gav people turn up, you know, and these big men, and they look at me like she don't have a clue what she's talking about, and then they do they'll break it, and I'm like, ha, you're ordering them all now. Told you so.

SPEAKER_04 10:55

Yeah, that's a mold price as well now.

SPEAKER_02 10:57

They've got to trap your mould in the skip and all. Yeah, exactly. So that's it. So you don't want to listen, but now obviously that's more years of experience of me being out in my little van on deliveries and that, you know. That's also been a life experience within itself. Oh, without a doubt.

SPEAKER_04 11:17

Yeah, one one because there are some ripe lemons out there.

SPEAKER_07 11:22

Definitely.

SPEAKER_03 11:23

One thing I found when all the years are teaching fibrous plastering. I always found that the girls or women were better than most young lads we used to teach because you're a lot of young lads, they're like, Well, they were near enough, we're good enough, but the girls they're like, nope, nope, it has to be absolutely precise. And it's like they're working on the mic, yeah. Perfection, isn't it? Oh, yeah, absolutely. We put them through to skill builds because they concentrate on the quality and perfection. Where a lot of lads they'd be preferred to throw a few walls on than bugger about with molds and miters.

SPEAKER_02 12:03

Yeah, they just want to sort of slap a bit of stuff on the wall. Yeah, but and the thing is with with like girls as well, especially myself. We like women, any woman really, we're quite precise about timings. We like routine, we're creatures of habit. So it comes all down to everything because something's my dad says, like, girls have a women have a certain finesse, they like to have their canvas perfectly cut, they like to have their gauge perfect, their tools clean, their bench clean, everything's clean and tidy. I know my yard's not clean and tidy, but my work area always, my moulds are always clean unless they're the really old ornate ones, which you know it is what it is. But otherwise, I clean if I'm working on a case to silicon, every single time I demold that, I'm cleaning that case, I'm greasing it again, and I'm making sure that silicon is sat perfectly. So then the next time I'm ready, as I'm waiting for it to go off, I'll clean the break the silicon edge, get the plaster off the fibroglass while it's going off, so I flip the mould out, brush it out, grease it, ready to go. I'm saving what an hour a day? Like, literally, I'm watching men like just sometimes like the logic, mate. You're sat there, it's going off, start cleaning your area, start getting your stuff ready. Like when I'm casting coves and I've got like 20 to make in a day, I'm making hot water, and as my cast is going off in the mould, like these little coves, we sometimes do it two metres, three metres, it's a cove, they're just easy, it's half a bucket of plaster. I know I'm making that in seven minutes with hot water, and I've got a good four minutes for it to go off. So, in that four minutes, I already cut all my stuff, all my loves and everything are cut ready. I'll start getting my plaster ready, getting it sat there. So I let my cast plaster sit in its bucket, I get the cove out as it's nice and warm because I've used hot water, grease straight on it, lovely. Mix my plaster straight in. Like I save so much time just through women organization.

SPEAKER_10 13:57

But it's just agent, it's just organisation.

SPEAKER_02 14:00

That's that's it's a boys, it's just organisation, that's all it is. Like, they just can't do it. But I suppose being a single mum as well, I have to be organised. So I suppose that's sometimes why I'm very efficient at work and I have my funny little ways.

SPEAKER_04 14:13

So we all have we all have ways of doing stuff, but it's like me and Dave were having a conversation the other day because we we've been we've watched a lot of videos recently on the fibre side as well.

SPEAKER_07 14:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 14:26

We always used to pour first. We never used to brush in.

SPEAKER_02 14:31

Yeah. See, I think that's where you're taught as well. Like in London, that's how they've always turned as well. Yeah, and it's not only that, it's just too like when I grease, I love to have like just perfect grease. So that first brush is so important to me, and I love it to be perfect because then when I splash, it sticks too, and that splash agitates everything. So that first little brush on I've done has gone off now.

SPEAKER_07 14:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:57

So, do you know I know that my splash is sticking to that, it's not running off my mould. My gauge is perfect because I know how I like McClaster. So it's all about timings as well. So that splash agitates it, so I know I go straight onto my canvas without worrying that I'm gonna have Scottish corners that all my canvas would come through.

unknown 15:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:15

That splash is what it does, it just makes it go off a lot more. Now, some people say to me, Oh, you're so aggressive and you're so messy when I'm doing these ceiling roses. But what they don't understand is I like to do everything in one gauge. That's how my dad's taught us, I suppose, for efficiency and quickness and stuff, you know. So I have to I like to be aggressive with it because it makes it go off quicker.

unknown 15:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:37

So I'm just bang, bang, bang. It's made in 13 minutes, then big ceiling roses. There's no waiting about, I don't have to bother for seconds and first in-ins, none of that.

SPEAKER_03 15:48

That kind of makes sense, to be fair. Yeah, we've done them both ways. I think when we're casting ceiling roses, sometimes we used to cast them solid and vibrate bubbles, but if you're doing like a reverse cast, obviously you've got your first innings and your seconds, and you're doing pillars or whatever you're doing, putting your reinforcement in your you know, your timbers and canvas. You know, we've done an awful lot of casting. Do you ever do any running on the boats, Mary? Do you only do any running on the box?

SPEAKER_02 16:15

Yeah, I run up loads all the time, yeah. Yeah, I'm like, I'm obviously like the casting queen. I suppose my brother, that's just something he enjoys doing. So if we mold probably make 10 molds a week sometimes, you know, like little bits and bobs.

SPEAKER_03 16:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:31

And that's like his little special thing. My dad just enjoys sitting there making the profiles and filing up and stuff. Like that's what he does because that's his age now. Yeah, he's slowing down. Yeah, it gets trapped in the water bucket, and it's sort of like whoever gets there first gets to make it. And my brother will make a whole mould within 15 minutes with it shlacked, and I'll be casting on it in fifty in half hour. Like, literally, that's how quick we work sometimes. Well, so we'd be it'd be like he will make a mould before I get there in the morning, it'll be shlacked, ready to go, it'll be warmed up, the grease will be ready, and then as I'm getting the first cast in, he's on the next bench running up the next mould for me. Because you know, these little run-up moulds, you're not getting hundreds of bits out of them. It's five, ten, twenty lengths, you know. Yeah, yeah. Anything for them, sort of like if we get an order for like 60, obviously, if we're gonna make a fibroglass mould, depending on what it is. I have squeezed a good 80 out of a plaster mould many times. As long as you keep it nice and clean, and that grease is lovely, and you've got fresh shellac every sort of 20 goes, yeah, you're alright. And I use my hands a lot, like that's what people don't realize about. They're like, No, that's impossible. Well, no, because I strike I strike that off twice with a wet laugh. The whole time I'm using a greased up hand to strike it off. So you always watch me when I'm working on pasta, like on run-up moles, I always just use my hand because it doesn't damage the strike off. You've seen me strike it off with a bit of laugh twice at the end.

SPEAKER_04 17:59

You know, we're talking about you do a theory. I've all I always always wondered why you've never got like a latex glove with something on.

SPEAKER_02 18:07

Oh, I've just always been talking like, yeah, use me hands. Like, like I say to people, if I wear gloves, it's like working blind. Yeah. Because I can use plaster without even looking at it. It's like a good piano player, they can play the piano without reading nothing, can't they? It's just like that's how we are, it's just second nature to us. If I put gloves on, I can't, you know, I can't compute. No, it don't work. Like I have tried to do polygamy, and I'm like, it doesn't work.

SPEAKER_03 18:36

No, exactly what you mean. Well, I'm clean.

SPEAKER_02 18:39

And I end up all bits of finger hanging off, like all soggy gloves, like it's pathetic.

SPEAKER_04 18:44

That's the bit that drives me mad, is when you've got to take them off and then try and put them back on and like now, it's like even when I've had bad injuries on my hands and stuff, like years ago and stuff, trying to wear a glove, oh, it's just so annoying.

SPEAKER_02 18:58

I'd rather just put a load of grease in the cut and get on with it. But that's what I use tallow for, obviously, as well, is in the morning that greasing up, I cope my hands in it throughout the day.

SPEAKER_07 19:09

Right.

SPEAKER_02 19:10

So that's the best sort of protection you can have, and then I use it as a grease, obviously, for the moulds. But that's what we've done for hundreds of years. I've always seen my dad do it beer grease, rub it on your it's like just a well-known thing. It's tallow, in it, it's fat. The water just runs off, plaster don't stick. If more people knew that, then they wouldn't have it all stuck in their hair, in their arms.

SPEAKER_04 19:32

Well, the thing that makes me laugh is not out in little jars now, haven't they? For moisturizers for women.

SPEAKER_02 19:39

Yeah, people are selling it for 16 pounds a pot. I feel like I've missed uh missed the good at business opportunity in the beauty world there.

SPEAKER_04 19:46

Big time.

SPEAKER_02 19:47

And the cooking world, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 19:50

Yeah, massively.

SPEAKER_02 19:52

Everything really. Oh, don't get me wrong though, we have had some strange, I've had some strange things that people ring up and say, Oh, is it vegan? Because they've seen comments online and stuff, and I'm like, what do you mean? That I can't they're like, Oh, can you use something else? And I'm like, what, like beeswax? And I'm like, oh yeah, like what I don't know what you want me to use, like coconut oil, maybe like maybe coconut oil would work. I don't know. Maybe it can make rats eat my cast. Who knows?

SPEAKER_04 20:26

It does work.

SPEAKER_02 20:27

Vegetable oil vegetable oil. Yeah, yeah, I did think that, but then again, it's it's it's the issue. We're in a workshop, I've got to think about the little ROTs that are running around. They eat the silicon as soon as you leave a bit of tail, like especially in the winter. If you if I'm working on a plaster case, obviously when I'm cleaning it, I'm using tallow, the beef fat, before I cast, so it's fresh when I get it out. If a bit of tallow touches that silicon and it's not wrapped up, we come back the next morning, they've eaten a chunk out of a mould and totally ruined the mould. Oh, that's kind of them. Yeah, so like that's that obviously is a well-known thing to happen everywhere, but yeah, in fibrous it happens a lot. And you come in the morning, you've got all little bike marks out of your dental block, it's not good. No, no, so yeah, that's another thing that we have to think about. Mmm, little bastards. Sorry, little bad guys that they are.

SPEAKER_04 21:24

Yeah, so I'm gonna ask you a really strange question now.

SPEAKER_02 21:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 21:28

If dad and brother weren't fibrous plasters, what do you think you'd have done?

SPEAKER_02 21:33

Oh, I've all I always said like I probably would have been a pilot. I don't know what I love, like, yeah, I'm quite good at cars and things, like we've always been good at fixing things and making things, but yeah, I definitely would have been a pilot, I reckon. Because that was what I wanted to do now. I was like, you know, when you're little, yeah, I used to love things like that. Yeah. I am gonna get my pilot license one day. I've promised like my best friends, because when we was little, we have like a little joke about the flyaway home. Film and I have one because that was like my favourite film when I was a little kid. It's about like this little girl and she flies a plane with any geese, anyways. Disney film, but yeah. Digressing. I have always said I'm gonna get my pilot's licence one day. Yep, I am daff. So yeah, I'll be a pilot, fibrous plaster.

SPEAKER_03 22:21

Not many of them are about. There's not many of them about, Marie, and you're probably very unique being a one of those, definitely. But uh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:29

What would you guys have been, do you reckon?

SPEAKER_03 22:35

Probably in jail. Yeah, you're supposed to be criminal.

SPEAKER_02 22:42

Yeah, well I suppose back in the day you probably could have made some good money before the technology and that come about.

SPEAKER_04 22:48

Well, it's the annoying thing is, is like I got to the stage where I was what 22-ish? So I finished up starting with uh Preston Borough Council on a like a training scheme sort of thing. Yeah, general labourer. And I had to labour on the bricks, well I hated them. I couldn't stand them. But the blaster has got on to how much I'd draft and said they want me with them. So I think it's like I'd be stood by the mixer in the morning, there'd be one in the mixer, one on the one on the board, and all the spot boards were full. So this went on for a few weeks, and then I was still upstairs at about half two ish getting ready to clean up after them. Yeah. And I walked past an understairs cupboard. And I was laughing my head off. And they both looked at me, what are you laughing at, you little shit? Now bearing in mind these two guys were both over six foot. Yeah. And I'm still there, I'm like, one of these two big numbers has got to get in there and blaster that out. And he just turned around and looked at me square in the face. I'm like, No, you're doing it. And that's how I got away.

SPEAKER_02 24:08

Yeah, that was it.

SPEAKER_04 24:10

I was about two inch knee deep in shit, and I couldn't get it on the wall.

SPEAKER_02 24:16

Yeah, you can't wait, he was absolutely covered.

SPEAKER_04 24:18

Yeah, and they were stood there laughing at me. And all I could think was, and I actually said to him, I said, Yeah, but Fred, what happens if I fucking up? He said, You'll have to do it again then, won't you? Yeah, that's it. That's that's how it started for me.

SPEAKER_07 24:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 24:33

And then I progressed then from there to throwing the scratch coat on for them to float on top of after. And then it moved on to right, make shut the mixer down at half one, get your ass up here, make sure we've got enough. We're gonna start your floating little walls.

SPEAKER_02 24:49

Yeah, so you just moved up. That is sort of it, isn't it? That is how it starts, like with everyone. I think that's what young people forget nowadays, don't they? They think they just go to an interview and get a job. I think one of the things you have to learn a bit, didn't you?

SPEAKER_03 25:03

Well one weird thing here, Mick. One weird thing here is the guy who taught you his teacher was my work partner. We worked together for loading years. So the guy I used to work with, we partner up with work on size together. He then went working teaching, and he ended up being Mick's teacher.

SPEAKER_02 25:27

Oh how? What are we what like a small world? I love it.

SPEAKER_04 25:32

Working in a college and bearing in mind, I would be about 22-ish. And I was a cocky little git. I totally admit that. You be quiet, Dave.

SPEAKER_03 25:46

I mean you still lie now, mate.

SPEAKER_04 25:48

What are you about?

SPEAKER_02 25:49

Yeah. Still reigning in now.

SPEAKER_04 25:54

It's to the end of the course, and he comes in and he says, Did he write, mate? He said, Uh, what do you see yourself doing when you're my age? Now bearing in mind he must have been 50 plus then.

SPEAKER_02 26:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 26:06

And I just stood there, looked him square in the eye, taking the piss, and went, Your job. Not meaning it in any way, shape, or form.

SPEAKER_07 26:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 26:18

And then lo and behold, I finished up at Burnley College, would I?

SPEAKER_03 26:22

Yeah. It turned up at Burnley College, our programme leader at Burnley College, new, nearly promoted, new into a job, basically, and all of a sudden this guy turns up, calls me in plastic, I want to be a teacher. That's how we all kind of start in, mate, weren't it? You know what I mean? Well, my attitude is when we're not.

SPEAKER_04 26:44

I never want to say what if do I. So if somebody says to me, How do you fancy having a go at this? I'll give it a go.

SPEAKER_02 26:50

Yeah, just give it a go. Yeah, no, I'm very much like that. I'll watch it once and then I'm pretty confident I can do it.

SPEAKER_04 26:57

And then just me. Yeah, then my attitude is if you don't if I don't like it, I don't do it again.

SPEAKER_02 27:03

Yeah, and that's that.

SPEAKER_04 27:06

I keep saying that I kept saying I was never gonna go back teaching until my elbow decided it was gonna go west. So that's what sort of I'm back on the trail next week. That's good. We've got half-term. Oh that's alright then. I'll be back swinging that troll again.

SPEAKER_02 27:31

Get a bit done, make you feel better as well about yourself.

SPEAKER_04 27:34

Well, it should be holiday fun now, isn't it? Oh, is that it? Yeah, anything that comes to the city. There's gotta be a benefit to it, so and bearing in mind our Jane wants to go to Anatalia October after. Where are you going, Mick? It's gonna be Mick, where are you going? Where you going, Turkey?

SPEAKER_03 27:58

Alright.

SPEAKER_04 27:59

Turkey.

SPEAKER_03 28:00

Oh, very good.

SPEAKER_04 28:02

So that should be good for a laugh. Never been there, but I've not told her we're booking it yet. All right, very cool.

SPEAKER_02 28:12

I'm sure she'll be very happy with that. I mean, I wouldn't complain.

SPEAKER_04 28:16

Well, she's got two choices. She either likes it and comes, or doesn't like it and stays at home.

SPEAKER_02 28:20

And stays at home, yeah. Oh my goodness. Oh, bless her.

SPEAKER_03 28:27

That won't happen, will it? No, no, not a chance, mate. One person staying at dormant, it won't won't be your wife, it'll be you, Mick. She'll be on the plane before me, trust me.

SPEAKER_02 28:37

Oh bless her. No, that's nice.

SPEAKER_03 28:40

Yeah, well, we we're getting to agenda podcast this part, so basically, yeah, well, brilliant, Mary. Thanks for coming on board. That's all right. You've got a hell of a social media following. How many people follow you now on social media?

SPEAKER_02 28:57

I actually forget. Instagram is are we at two, two, what is that? Yeah, 222k, 220,000 people on Instagram. Okay, and then the next big one, it's probably my I don't like to say it really, but Facebook. I love Facebook, it is wild. It's just so much different to any other social app, like in a really positive way. I I say this and in the most loving way. But Facebook, everyone loves, they're all a bit older, they all want to have a chat, they all want to relate to your work, and I just love that because I feel like Instagram is very snobby, basically, in a lovely way as well. But it's somewhere where it's a bit more, yeah, a bit more snobby, basically. There's more interior designers than that, where on Facebook you get like, yeah, like David from up the road, and he's like proper good job gal. And they're like my type of people, do you know like working class people that don't care, like they say, I love your work, like I think you're great, and things like that. Where Instagram is a lot more reserved, but yeah, anyway, I'm probably digressing. You asked how many followers I've got. Was I think like 160k on uh Facebook, and then yeah, there's LinkedIn and TikTok's like 22k and LinkedIn, I don't know what that is, and YouTube.

SPEAKER_03 30:21

So we can expect a lot of downloads and I hope people hopefully let's get you some downloads.

SPEAKER_02 30:26

I'm sure my people of Facebook, because they love me on there. Well, I like to think they do, but yeah, the people on Facebook, I love them dearly. Like, yeah, I've got proper, like as we'd say, but I've got proper fans on there, you know, like comment on everything. Really? And I even know like their wife's names now and their favourite music, you know, like they tell me their life story, and I'm like, Yes, Kevin, so happy for you.

SPEAKER_03 30:49

Mary, tell them you've been on the Mick and Dave Pod show. Yeah, I am.

SPEAKER_02 30:53

I'm gonna put it out. I'll even do a little shout-out video and thank you guys. Why not?

SPEAKER_03 30:57

Yeah, this podcast will run out a week. We're just sharing 15,000 now, aren't we? Yeah, we're in the world. That's brilliant.

SPEAKER_02 31:06

You go guys, what's that? 15,000 um like follower listeners.

SPEAKER_03 31:10

No, it's just downloads. Downloads. Oh, downloads.

SPEAKER_02 31:13

Oh, yeah, that's brilliant, isn't it?

SPEAKER_03 31:14

It's large, we'll be the largest independent across USA and the UK. And that I like I like brilliant.

SPEAKER_02 31:22

You go guys, American. I remember when we was um when we were talking, like what is it like last year, and you told me about your idea of your podcast and that. I think it's great how it's grown and the community. Oh, bless her. Hello, the community she's made is brilliant.

SPEAKER_03 31:42

Brilliant, brilliant. Love her. Yeah, it's it's took on. You know, merely right. We were gonna do it 12 months ago, and when when me and Mick started, we were so well, we didn't know what we were bloody well doing, that was top and bottom, it but we've just kept going and plooding away and what have we. So that's what it is about.

SPEAKER_02 32:01

You just learn as you go, don't you? It's uh about the whole social media thing, and that that's just what happens. It just yeah, you just sort of go with it, don't you? You wing it, as they say.

SPEAKER_03 32:11

We went with it so basically, you know, rings a book. And that really we've got a book contract, we've two books coming out, we've a two-book deal coming out, we've got a book coming out in November. We've been took on by a publisher.

SPEAKER_02 32:26

Brilliant.

SPEAKER_03 32:26

It's on fibrous and nice last time. So it's about to go into production. Brilliant to here. It'll be out for November, December time. And it's been we've been took on, buy it on by a publisher. Uh yeah. It's 50. How many words do I tell you? 57,000 words. 57,000 words. 57,000, yeah. Lot of work. Is it yeah, and over 200 images? They don't mess about. I don't know what went into it. A lot of ways it'll go worldwide. It'll get worldwide. So it'll be it will do.

SPEAKER_02 33:04

Oh, I hope it does, guys. I'm sure it will.

SPEAKER_03 33:06

The publishers are gonna do that, they'll be going to publish it worldwide in different languages. So, you know, yeah, and that'll be it. So, yeah, it'll be good.

SPEAKER_02 33:16

We'll be able to buy it off of like Amazon and Pages.

SPEAKER_03 33:21

We've been told. Yeah, so yeah, it's gonna be out on Amazon, and basically they have a marketing team. Uh there'll be college launches and one thing, another book launches, they'll be out all over, you know, basically everywhere it'll be going all over.

SPEAKER_02 33:36

Oh, brilliant! You'll have to send me one, I'll promote it for you guys. Obviously, I'll buy it, but you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_03 33:41

I will uh you're getting pushback. Anyway, Mary, what to say? Thanks for coming on board now.

SPEAKER_02 33:47

Uh no, thank you guys for having me. I appreciate it. Love chatting with you and catching up with you, David and Mick. It was great to speak to you. And yeah, hear the stories. Loved it. Can't wait till the next one.

SPEAKER_03 34:02

Yeah, of course you can. Depends how many downloads we get. Depends on how many downloads you get.

SPEAKER_02 34:07

Get more downloads. I'll tell you about some more stuff.

SPEAKER_03 34:12

If we don't get 600 downloads, you don't get invited back.

SPEAKER_02 34:15

So I'm gonna get booted off the show. I'm gonna get sacked by David.

SPEAKER_03 34:20

You get all the downloads going, he'll be back on.

SPEAKER_02 34:22

I'm gonna get the yeah, I'm gonna get the big cancellation.

SPEAKER_04 34:26

I've been trying to get psyched to buy him for years, it's it never happens. All right, lads.

SPEAKER_03 34:33

See you later.

SPEAKER_10 34:35

Bye guys, thanks for having me.

SPEAKER_03 37:59

Brilliant, thanks, Murray. Thanks for coming on board. Very, you know, very good talk with that. Really enjoyable. You know, we really enjoyed having you on board, and you know, anytime you want to come back and have another, you know, spend some time with two bloody idiots, you're quite welcome to. Well, that's that's the funny bit.

SPEAKER_04 38:15

Everybody we've had on just recently wants to come back. Yeah. Doing summer, right? It's like the latter else, we're we're just too boring that we need somebody else in as well.

SPEAKER_03 38:25

We need somebody else to liven it up. I think that's a bit more to the truth.

unknown 38:31

Right.

SPEAKER_03 38:33

What are we on with now? So we're gonna get on with this quiz. I reckon we should do. Right, let's let's have a start on quiz.

SPEAKER_10 38:40

Five, four, three, two, one.

SPEAKER_04 38:50

Go on, Mick, over to the quiz, master, Mick. Uh so nineties trivia quiz. Let's go with question one. Which television quiz first aired in the UK in nineteen ninety-eight and became famous for the phrase is that your final answer? Question two. Which company released the first PlayStation in nineteen ninety-four? Question three. Which wizarding book series began in nineteen ninety-seven? And as we've got a wonderful football tournament during the summer, it'd be rude not to put this one in. Question four. Which country won the nineteen ninety-eight FIFA World Cup? Oh, now we're going a little bit more. Which princess died in a Paris car crash in nineteen ninety-seven? Question six. Now we're getting a bit more lighthearted. What was the name of the spacecraft that landed on Mars in nineteen ninety-seven? Wow, that's a good one. Question seven. Which TV sitcom featured the characters? Ross, Rachel, Chandler, Monica, Joey, and Phoebe. Question eight. Which boxer bit Evander Holyfield's ear during a nineteen ninety-seven fight? Question nine. What was the name of the sheep cloned in nineteen ninety-six? Question ten, this is for the young ones out there. Which animated film featured the song Circle of Life? Question eleven. Which internet search engine was founded in nineteen ninety-eight by Larry Page and Sergei Brynn? That's a bloody hard one, that one. Question twelve. Which golfer became a worldwide superstar after winning the Masters in tournament in nineteen ninety seven? Question thirteen. Which film won the Academy Award for Best Picture in nineteen ninety eight and starred Leonardo DiCaprio. Question fourteen. What was the name of the tunnel opened between England and France in nineteen ninety-four? Question fifteen. Which singer was known as the king of pop? Question sixteen, I had to watch this with the granddoor the other day. Which toy cowboy appeared in the nineteen ninety-five film Toy Story? Question seventeen. What was the name of the computer problem feared at the end of the decade? Question eighteen. Which handheld virtual pet became a huge craze in the nineteen nineties? Question nineteen. Which US president was involved in the Monica Lewinsky scandal? Question twenty?

SPEAKER_03 46:24

Some brilliant questions. That rounds the twenty questions for you. Brilliant questions, uh Mick. Absolutely brilliant questions. Right, let's um go through the answers. Well, do we have to? Well, it kind of helps a bit, doesn't it? You read a mark, doesn't it? You read a mat, and I'll read answers. How's that grab you?

SPEAKER_04 46:48

That sounds fun to me. Go on. So question one. Which television quiz show first aired in the UK in 1998? Became famous for the phrase, is that your final answer? It's gotta be Who Wants to Be a Millionaire?

SPEAKER_03 47:08

Posted by Chris Carram. Now Jeremy Clarkson.

SPEAKER_04 47:12

I don't want you no. Question two Which company released the first PlayStation in 1994?

SPEAKER_03 47:21

That company called Sony. PlayStation, yeah, from Japan. Then expanded globally first released in Japan in 1994. Question three.

SPEAKER_04 47:35

Which wizarding book series began in 1997?

SPEAKER_03 47:41

That would be Harry Potter and The Photoshop's Stone by JK Rowling.

SPEAKER_04 47:47

Question four. Which country won the 1998 FIFA World Cup?

SPEAKER_03 47:56

The country was France. They beat Brazil 3-0 in the final with two goals from come on, Zadine. Oh, I can't pronounce his bloody name anyway. Zanadine Zedan. That's the guy.

SPEAKER_04 48:09

Question five. Which princess died in a Paris car crash in 1997? Well, it's sad everybody should put know that obviously. Princess Diane. Very sad. Question six. What was the name of the spacecraft that landed on Mars in 1997?

SPEAKER_03 48:29

That spacecraft was called the Mars Pathfinder. Yeah, it landed on the 4th of July 1997.

SPEAKER_04 48:41

Question seven. Which TV sitcom featured the characters? Ross, Rachel, Chandler, Monica, Joey, and Phoebe.

SPEAKER_03 48:54

That TV series was friends. The series ran from 1994 to 2004.

SPEAKER_04 49:02

Question eight. Which boxer bit Evander Holyfield's ear during a 1997 fight?

SPEAKER_03 49:14

Mighty Mike Tyson. I think everybody I'm certain is will remember that big style. Definitely. Oh dear man.

SPEAKER_04 49:23

Question 9. What was the name of the sheep that was cloned in 1996? Yeah, that sheep's name was Dolly. Question 10. Which animated film featured the song Circle of Light?

SPEAKER_03 49:42

That film was The Lion King and it was sung by Elton John.

SPEAKER_04 49:47

Question 11. Which internet search engine was founded in 1998 by Larry H. and Sergei Brin?

SPEAKER_03 49:57

Yeah, the answer is Google. Quite honest, I thought it was out before then. But according to all research, that was when it came out.

SPEAKER_04 50:08

I'm sorry, I'm still intrigued as to why they called it Google.

SPEAKER_03 50:12

Yeah. But I hope. No idea. We'll find out.

SPEAKER_04 50:16

Question 12. Which golfer became a worldwide superstar after winning the Masters Tournament in 1997? That was Tiger Woods. He was just 21 year old. Question 13. Which film won the Academy Award for Best Picture in 1998 and starred Leonardo DiCaprio? The film was Titanic, it won eleven Oscars. Question 14. What was the name of the tunnel opened between England and France in 1994? Yeah, that's the channel tunnel, isn't it? Question 15. He always pops up, doesn't he? Which singer was known as the king of pop?

SPEAKER_03 51:04

Yeah, Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson was known as King of Pop.

SPEAKER_04 51:10

Question 16. Which toy cowboy appeared in the 1995 film Toy Story? That was Woody. His voice was by Tom Anks. Question 17. What was the name of the computer problem that disappeared at the end of the decade?

SPEAKER_03 51:33

It was known, yeah, it was known as the Millennium Bug. Everybody thought the computers were just zero and not move on.

SPEAKER_04 51:43

Question 18. Which handheld virtual pet became a huge craze in the 1990s? That handheld pet was called a Tommy gotcha.

SPEAKER_03 51:59

I remember queuing for hours. I remember queuing for hours in range, you get one for my daughter. Oh dear me. And the damn damn thing died then, didn't it?

SPEAKER_04 52:09

Yeah, we were gonna do that. Question 19. Which US president was involved in the Monica Lewinsky scandal? Yeah, the US president was Bill Clinton. Question 20. Who was the UK Prime Minister for most of the late 1990s?

SPEAKER_03 52:34

The Prime Minister was Tony Blair. That's the end of the quiz. So what is it, Mick? 20 pointer? 20 questions. Like we said, if you go on, Mick. No bonuses on the trivia ones. Not on the trivial ones. If you do enjoy the quizzes, look out for the our Load of Bollocks music quiz. They're up on Spotify and all major platforms. Uh joining. You get hundreds and hundreds of downloads, so people seem to enjoy them. They're both questions and music. So look, watch out for that. Right, Mick, it's that time of week again where we can go for Wanker of the Week.

SPEAKER_04 53:16

Yeah. Yeah. Well, this is over to you for this one.

SPEAKER_03 53:20

Yeah, there's gotta be Wanker Week. This gotta be this time, gotta be West Street in Annie. Basically, what a prat. You know, he's not into democracy. He's trying he wants to take everybody back into Europe. We voted to come out. Not up to you to put us back in, it's a public vote. He's gonna oh I'm Prime Minister, I'll take everybody back. I don't think so. So for me, definitely Wanker Week registre for them, you know, ignoring democracy and not giving a shit of what British people think, whether you like it or not. You know what I mean? Everyone's entitled to a vote. Yeah, they are definitely. So most definitely Wanker a week.

SPEAKER_01 54:05

I'm a wanker, I'm a wanker, and it does me good luck. I'm a wanker, I'm a wanker, and I'm always on in my hood.

SPEAKER_03 54:15

I think this week we can have, well, you're gonna go for it, have you? You've got to have hero of the week for you. Go on, you can announce your hero, your hero of the week, and why he is your hero.

SPEAKER_04 54:29

My hero of the week. Well, where do we start? I'm spoiled for choice, really, but it's not gonna go where you think it's going to go. Go on. My hero of the week this week is a young French footballer who goes by the name of Eli Junior Crupy. Wow. Thank you very much. Why without you I'm going to tell you why in a minute. Without him, we wouldn't be sat where we are sat at this moment in time with a game to go. Eli Jr. Crupy opened the scoring for Bournemouth in their game against Manchester City Tuesday night. Monday night, wasn't it? No, Monday was arsenal. Alright. No, so like yeah, you're right. It was Monday. Yeah, Monday night, yeah. Yep. So I had to sit with baited breath from about the 84th minute through till the 90th minute, waiting for the final whistle to go. And then lo and behold, they get six minutes extra time. The so-called injury time. And the big Norwegian gets scored again. So then I'm on tender hooks until the final whistle blows. And the final whistle blows, and the final score is one-one. Which then makes good old Arsenal champions of the Premier League. So Mick has been a very happy man this week.

SPEAKER_03 56:36

Well, you can't deny it, you deserved it this year. Yeah, you have. I'm not an Arsenal fan by any means, but congratulations to Arsenal. You know, what an achievement. Coming to end at show now, like you say, so hope you enjoyed it. We've had a good night. We've had, you know, young Lady Mary Rom talking to us about fibrous plastic and her life in the fibrous plastic career. We've had a trivia quiz on 90s. Hope you enjoyed that. And yeah, Wanko a week and hero a week. So, what more do you want? So more do I want?

SPEAKER_04 57:10

I want complete, utter joy. There's no football club.

SPEAKER_03 57:18

That's what I want. Well, somewhat like that. Alright, so it's a goodbye from me, Dave, and and it's we're champions of England. Goodbye from me, Mick. Oh, here we go.