#44 - Marayan Healed his relationship to sales & signed 7 Premium Clients in 4 Months Inside Magnetic Mastermind (S3)

If you’re a coach, healer, or service provider with depth in your work but still find yourself overthinking marketing, avoiding sales, or struggling to communicate your value, this conversation will speak to you. In this episode, I’m joined by my client Marayan, a hypnotherapist, psychotherapist, and spiritual musician, who came into my world wanting clearer messaging, stronger strategy, and a more grounded relationship with marketing and sales. Yes, he signed 7 premium clients in 4 months — but the deeper shift was learning how to build his business from more clarity, honesty, leadership, and self-trust.

Key Takeaways

⚡ What changed when Marayan stopped approaching marketing and sales from pressure
⚡ How clearer messaging helped him build confidence and attract premium clients
⚡ The inner shift behind signing 7 premium clients in 4 months
⚡ What it looks like to grow a business from self-trust, leadership, and honesty

About Marayan
Marayan is a hypnotherapist, psychotherapist, and spiritual musician. In this conversation, he shares what changed when he refined his messaging, strengthened his strategy, and transformed the way he related to marketing and sales.

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Transcript

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Hey love, welcome back to the podcast. Today's episode is for coaches, healers, facilitators who have depth in their work, but they still find themselves overthinking their marketing, avoiding sales, or struggling to communicate their value in a way that actually brings in premium clients. If you have been craving more clarity, more confidence, and a more sustainable way of growing your business, this conversation is going to speak to you. Now, if you hear my voice, bear with me for a moment. I've been sick the last week, but I did not want to miss the deadline of a new episode every Tuesday. So I have a beautiful episode for you that I am repurposing from a client interview with one of my clients, Maraine. And the intro and the outro, they're just gonna sound as they are sounding right now. I'm sharing an interview with my client Marain, a hypnotherapist, psychotherapist, and spiritual musician who came into my world wanting clearer messaging, a stronger strategy, and a better relationship with marketing and sales. And yes, he signed seven premium clients in just four months of working with me. But more importantly, he started building his business from a completely different place, with more clarity, more honesty, more leadership, and more self-trust. This conversation was originally recorded about the Magnetic Mastermind, the program that Ryan joined. And since then, that mastermind has closed and has evolved into the Xpand Mastermind, which is the 2.0 version. So if you hear us refer to the mastermind as magnetic, now you know why. If you're ready to grow your business in a way that feels premium, sustainable, and true to you, this episode is for you. A little side note to this episode: as Maraine hired me as his business coach, we were also developing a very dear friendship, and he is a very dear brother of mine. He's also one of the spiritual musicians that I respect most in this world. He has such an uplifting energy, and this person that you're gonna hear speak is so dear to my heart. Maraine, I love you. Welcome to the Bolt Expansion Podcast. You are here because you know your business is meant for more. I'm your host, Ame Drost, and this is where you'll learn how to make more money, create transformational offers, and step into your truth as a leader. Through premium strategy, identity work, and my signature method, Millionaire Breath Work. Each week you'll get the strategy and the shifts to expand your wealth, your impact, and your freedom. This is Bold Expansion. Are you ready? Today I'm gonna interview Marain. Uh he's a hypnotherapist, and he went through the magnetic mastermind experience with me for four months. And he healed his relationship with marketing and built a long-term strategy that he can now consistently use in his hypnotherapy business. And in the time that he worked with me, he also created an extra offer. He signed seven premium clients, and he's gonna talk about his experience in the magnetic mastermind today, how it was for him. Marayan, can you maybe give a short introduction of who you are, what you do, what your offer is about? Yeah, so my name is Marayan. Marayan Beyond is my uh pseudo surname. And this is because, yeah, to fully step into our own power, we have to go beyond a lot of things. We have to go beyond our own ego, we have to go beyond that wounded child, beyond our inner man, beyond our inner woman. We have to go beyond our whole old identity. This is what I'm first of all very passionate about in my own development, and this is what, of course, I'm bringing to my own clients in the hypnotherapy and psychotherapy. And for that, I have a big program so that I can promise big change and a lot of progression. Yeah, and I think we're gonna talk a bit more about the exec program later on as well, and also how you changed it a little bit while working with me. Um, and maybe it's good to start where were you before you started working with me. And I'd like to add there as well that we also met in person on Tenerife and we became friends, and that's when you actually joined the magnetic mastermind. So it was a beautiful journey for us also to get to know each other. But share a little bit about where you were with your hypno business and yeah, like what was going on for you in that time. At that time, I just came back from a long travel in South America. I was with a tribe there to do ayahuasca, and during the travel, I realized that so I was traveling around there, and after my journey in the jungle, I was having this idea of oh, I just buy a small camper van here and I will just travel around in that, and that's gonna cost me very little money. So then I have full freedom. And then when I sit with that, when I dived a bit deeper into myself and I became a bit more honest with myself, I discovered that I was actually still running away from some. So I was running away from my hypnotherapy business because I finally finished the whole course, which is a one-year program, which is very intense, cost a lot of energy and money and effort. And and then when I finally rounded up, I had already quite some clients, and still I was running away from the business side of it to really make it into a business. And I just didn't want that. I felt a lot of resistance against it. My whole life I felt resistance against. So when I realized that, of course, I could only decide to just come back to Genereve and focus fully on that. So I was doing that, it went very good. What do you mean when you said it went really good? Like how many clients were you working with? What were you doing in your business? What went very good is just stepping in that power, having that commitment of okay, I'm just gonna do this. This was before we were at one point. Around the time we would meet. Yeah, around the time we would meet. And what I mean was going good was it felt good to step into the power of being honest and hey, there is a fear here. I'm gonna just break through it, I'm gonna face that. That feels really good. I just did a lot of work on myself, so it feels always very good to just feel confronted with fears and resistance, and it's good, it's good. Yeah, I like that. I think also for most of the clients that I work with, they have covered most of that path in their life. They are working on themselves, they are doing the right things to get to the person that they want to become, but then the business side of things sometimes is not there yet. And how was it for you? Where were you in your business and being confronted with that you were running away from it? What were you already doing on your own? I'm I'm also organizing a lot of offline events on Tenerife, ayahuasca ceremonies, and singing, cacao ceremonies, all that stuff. And from there, I always meet a lot of people, and because it's such a trustful environment, then they feel already a lot of trust. So that bridge then to start a hypnotherapy program with me. Now, the part I was running away from was to actively do promotion, or it felt uncomfortable. I was posting things, but I was or trying way too hard, which also doesn't give a very nice feeling. Or I was just posting just for my own fun, which then was not actually really promotion, but yeah, see, I just didn't really know what I was doing, basically. Yeah, and then we met, and what changed for you there? And then we met, and then yeah, you have a very great energy, so I resonate just a lot with your energy. That was just the main thing. I and I always make decisions based on that, and then I that energy was this very good. Then I was feeling like if I can just have this kind of energy in my whole business, well, I I have this already like when I work with clients and when I'm just myself, I'm very much in the same energy and motivation and then future-oriented and facing life. And so then when we started to speak about the business side of things, it naturally went very quickly, came together. First, I was being a little bit resistant and thinking, like, okay, I will just do this in a few months, maybe when I feel I really need it. And then you were saying something like, just yeah, this is okay, but why not just do it now? And I couldn't really give a good answer on that. So that yeah, let's just do it now. Yeah, and I love that. It went really fast through that point. I think what you mentioned as well in the beginning, where just a moment ago about I am just like that when I'm being like myself. But then looking at marketing and and the business side of things, it didn't feel as a part of you. And maybe this is weird to say about myself, but for me, business and marketing, that is my passion, and that's where I'm really myself. And I think people look at me sometimes and they're like, Yeah, but she has great energy, she can do all these things for her, it's natural. But I also had to learn and grow and discover all these things that you're mentioning. What do you post? How do you post it? How do you show up? Not even uh just online, because also offline you can use all the principles that I teach, but it is about learning how to actually do it and then being yourself while doing that. Because if you're just copying a coach and just copying a strategy, it might still not be resonant for you. And I think that was also one of the reasons why you resonated with my work. Um, because I remember you said that in your hypnotherapy uh course, there was actually a part about sales, and that's why you were actually already selling, because a lot of people would do a certificate, and I think the um the program that you did to become a hypnotherapist is really special in that way because not a lot of hypnotherapists actually leave their program knowing how to sell at least a little bit already, and you already had some skills, but then looking at how I approach sales and marketing, you instantly picked up on some things that really resonated with you about high mic messaging and uh making the other person want to qualify themselves. I remember you said something about a really small change that you saw when you booked in a sales call with me, where it was about if that person who filled in the form was actually wanting and willing to invest in themselves. Can you talk a bit about that difference of the approach that you were already using and what you saw in my approach that you wanted to learn more about? Yeah, for there I also want to be clear that uh what I was using was, of course, still my take on what this other program was giving me. In the same way that I have now my own take on what you gave, right? So this is uh good to always keep in mind. But what I was doing was still coming from the feeling of yeah, really trying to get people on board and to make it as easy as possible for them to get on the sales call. That was my first thing of I don't want to put any limitations there. So not yeah, make it as easy as possible. But then, of course, you get people on the sales call that are not actually willing to invest or not willing to actually do the work, or they just come to try out something which is not the people I want to work with. I want to work with people that are if they feel a full on yes, and I feel a full on yes with them, then we take the next step and then we're gonna work together and not 17%. Yeah, so I guess that is the big change. And before I would say I would also settle for when anyone anyone okay, love that. That's an amazing shift. And if you talk about more tangible results that you had working with me, I know you you had seven clients in the four months, but you also did some things with your offer. Do you share a bit about what type of clients you signed, how that went, like the really tangible results that you got from or while being in the course? Yeah, I I think what was for me very good to experience was that we often or I was also getting very much caught up in the idea of that it matters a lot how I'm doing it and how I write it, and it has to be perfect before I put it out. And this this is just bullshit, of course. And this is what you teach very clearly is just do it, just put it out there and just keep rolling, and people will see it, and people don't have to like it, but they will still see it, and it will still move something. And and that's what I started to notice as well when we did in the beginning, it was even just like some market research. Yeah, from that, I think. Well, there were at least came came some people that were interested. I got at least one client or maybe two out of that, and yeah, that gave me a nice motivation of okay, it's just it's more important, just what I like that I do it. I think also I remember now while you're talking about the market research, you were one of the easiest ones to go through the program and do the messaging, which I helped with in the magnetic mastermind to really get clear on your messaging, and you already had this vision about from scarcity to abundance. And if people are listening to this who are like, that sounds really vague. Yes, it does. And sometimes I tell my clients it's too vague, we cannot do this. But for you, you had such a clear vision of what it means to you because you fully embodied that whole experience. And that's the thing also with messaging. If you are not clear what it means yourself, then it's not good enough. But if you're very clear, like this is scarcity, this is abundance, this is the journey that I take people on, it is good enough because you understand. And by you understanding means that you can explain it to other people. And I got to support you a little bit in that process because but most of it you actually already knew, and it was just using the templates that I had or like the worksheet that I gave you. And then I think halfway through the program, you had another download, which also happens to a lot of my clients, where they get a download of a deeper, profound understanding of the work that they do. Um, maybe you can share also about how my program impacted you to become a better hypnotherapist in the process. But what I wanted to highlight there was that you were a little bit confused. Can I still use the same messaging? Because everything changed, but it didn't all change. It was really you who felt that change from within. But how you were presenting yourself up until that point was already in alignment. And of course, there are some tweaks that you can do to make it stand out even more, and the embodiment and the energy behind it became a lot stronger in how you presented yourself. But yeah, that was just something that really stood out to me as well while working with you, that you had so much clarity already from within. Yeah, and the clarity came really from within, meaning that it, yeah, it was really from my own experience, and I think that's the big shift, right? Because this same thing, you read it everywhere in different words, like from I call it from survival mode into celebration mode. You call it from I think from survivor to hero or something like this. But if it comes from my own ex from your own experience, then it's super powerful. And this was coming from my own experience in my own personal process where I had a clear moment where I realized, but wait a minute, if I would die now and I have only been successful in surviving life, which meaning I was just able to stay alive, this is not what I want. I I want to be able to say I celebrated life to the fullest. And celebration of confetti and ecstatic all the time, but it's about fully embracing the deepest truth that is always there, which is the truth that you're always safe, that you're always loving and loved, and that you're always powerful. And it's just a lot of layers around that that make you believe that it's not like that. But the deepest truth is always there. So the big shift was there that my messaging before already I met you, and my messaging was that I help people to reach celebration mode, to help them elevate out of survival mode into celebration mode. But my vision was that is then at the end of the course, at the end of my program, and somewhere halfway, and that is of course where you're really sitting with it, you're writing different things, you're going over it, you're thinking about it. I'm doing other planet medicine as well, so you get a lot of clarity, and all of a sudden it switched into oh well, wait a minute. I can I start immediately with clients actually. First, make them shift into celebrational because you don't need to heal anything to make that shift. This is a mental mind shift. But what happens when you are in celebrational, being safe, being loving, being powerful, even though you don't fully feel that, you just acknowledge that is the truth. From there, you have so much more energy available to elevate and to reach your full potential. Yeah, discovered with you as well, as friends, as because you're also now doing the hypnotherapy program. Yes, and there we also discovered that there we also discovered like you can have on a scale of one to ten your happiness or your how confident you are. This can be on a scale of one to ten, but as long as that is in survival mode, then you can reach, for example, a seven or an eight. But if all of a sudden you step in celebration mode, your whole measurement goes then from one to twenty or thirty, and then all of a sudden eight is you're on the low side. And how would you say that the magnetic mastermind helped you express around your offer better and actually explain to people what it is that you do for them? Yeah, it helped me, it helped me just first of all getting more clarity around and keeping it very simple because I tend to overcomplicate things. So, in the rest of my life, I learned to not overcomplicate things, but I instill marketing that felt like, oh, I made it everything so complicated. I I remember I was doing simple exercises that you gave, but then because it's a written exercise, there's some traumas from school coming up, and I would just fully black out and I was like, I have no idea how to do this. Yeah, and then just coming back to you and then seeing again the simplicity, and then I okay, I I I actually know this thing, I was super aware of this already. So, how it helped me, I think it it just mostly helped me having this space to face the struggles, then I resolve them again and really go through all that stuff to sink back into the simplicity as always. Yeah, and you also created another offer, right? So you had your offer that was structured in a way of I think at the beginning was three months, but when we started working, it was already six months, and you were doing one-on-one sessions every week, but you added something on top of that, right? Or another option. Yeah, so I was this also became very clear while I was working with you. Before I was working with clients for three months, and even when in three months you can resolve a lot of things, it's still a bit on the short end for long-term progress. So, in three months, is the how you say that is like the tilting point. So that's why I extended it. I made it a longer program for six months. Because after six months, what I see now is when clients they do six months, they are so familiar with the process that they don't need more. And how did the magnetic mastermind help you with the changes in your offer that you did? Is the way how you present your own course, your own program, your own structure within it that inspired me first of all a lot. And what specifically, because I know how it is, because the mastermind, of course, is uh a group setting, but it's also a lot of one-on-one. But your program right now is only one-on-one still. But I know in the future you want to make some changes in that as well. Yeah, so there's things that you are doing, and then of course, like in your course, I think we're going over different examples of what you can do. So, yeah, just things of making also transitioning to group settings, offering smaller workshops as a preparation for a program, having so I call it then a silver edition for people that have maybe less money to spend, but I still want to give them a lot of impact. So I make it still a six-month program, but there's just less one-on-one and more self-study material, a bronze version, but yeah, so all different packages that you were offering, as in like uh showing examples of what you can do. And I picked out a few that resonate with me, and and in the future I will yeah, I will keep extending that. Yeah, so it's also the exposure to all the different types of offers and how you can create offers and what works for you, and to just play around with that. And I think one of the things that also stood out to me was in the beginning when we were working together, you said something about, but I have to be uh with them every week. I have to do a one-on-one session because we were talking about creating a downsale offer that you could offer to people who weren't ready for the big program yet. And then there was a mind shift in you as well around how it actually is possible for a hypnotherapist that you can do by B2B sessions, but also you're starting to create this library where you were leveraging things that you already created and creating more things to actually add more value for your clients without adding more of your own time, right? Yeah, yeah. I think that was one of the biggest shifts I saw in you. Yeah, and that feels like a big relief as well, no, that I can give the same or similar kind of transformation without being always one-on-one with them. Yeah, I and I start to experience that now through something new that I'm developing, which is the dance lab, where I mix in actually hypnotherapy with dancing. Oh, it feels way more like it feels like an ecstatic dance, but then during the dance, I guide them through hypnosession, and it's really I didn't I was even surprised about the results, how impactful it was. Like people were feeling at the end, oh, this is like just a full-on ayahuasca ceremony. Feels so light, so they're so surrendered to it, and then I give this guidance during the dance, let them dance from their inner child or from their inner man or dancing a story about how they learn to take care of their own inner child and all that things, and it's very powerful to see how, in a group that can still work, they don't have to respond per se, and it actually amplifies it because there are other people around you that are going through the same process. So, yeah, now I want to also see if I can make a bridge to bring them back online somehow. The shifts that you also made, you're creating more offers, but also your view on marketing in the whole course. You start with a lot of resistance, but how did that change for you? Because I know that at some point we were at a festival and you said something about how musicians and DJs actually have this whole gold mine of options if they would understand marketing. So that's when I noticed okay, there is a shift happening. Can you share a bit more about how you look at marketing and Sales now compared to in the beginning. In the beginning, I just was getting nauseous from it. And now I see that comes just from a not understanding, not really comprehending what it is. And now I yeah, now I do know what it is. I try to avoid the the word understanding because for me it has like some hierarchy in to stand under, but this is different. Yeah, so what's shifted there? Yeah, the knowing, comprehending what I'm doing. So because what I do naturally in offline events is being authentic, right? Being authentic and being myself, and then people feel a bit deep connection and trust to work with me. Now online, that is that that felt for me impossible to do that. And now I see okay, online you can do the same. Then you just need to know a bit more clear how to do that and what people do when they open their phone because it's mostly lazy scrolling. That is the client. So this is a very different type of focus. So you have to like focus at them, hopefully. Um yeah, now I'm playing around with it way more freely. I enjoy it, I make videos this very quickly because I don't have to look perfect anymore. It's fine, but I have some structure in it, and it all looks just way more professional. I got yesterday last week a message from my brother was like, Oh Lorraine, I'm I'm very proud of you. It starts to look very professional, the whole Instagram thing. Oh, I love that. That's nice, and it's it's a paradox of I start to care less about the effects, and therefore the effect just becomes better somehow. I always compare it with when you're doing yoga for the first time, you need to pay attention to the teacher, but then after a while, you need to listen to your body and what works for you. And with you, we also looked a lot into the customer journey and both also for offline events, because what I teach is not limited just to online, but really to see the customer flow of what happens when somebody is in your offline event and what happens then when they call. Because we also noticed some of those people actually weren't ready for the call yet, and having your Instagram ready, having your social media platform ready enhances the journey even of the people who come from offline. So it's all interconnected. Have you also felt that shift in in the people that you met that now easily or more easily say yes to joining a program? I don't know if that is in any way, I don't know how much it is connected with the online presence because I still have the feeling that the people that I meet offline, I don't see them so interacting much with me like on Instagram. They do follow you or they don't? Yeah, but I still I see that I still make that first call as soon as possible. But still they are way more prepared. Yeah, we did a deep dive on that, right? How does it go from the big change is there that I'm also I'm not trying to hide anymore like the length of the program or roughly the price or or any kind of thing, just just I'm more clear. Yeah, like giving them the information that they need to make the decision. Yeah, so they are of obviously less surprised on the call. That's a good knowing. Because I yeah, what I teach is also a lot about taking the pressure away from the sales call and not having somebody there that you I wouldn't say pressured because even when you already were doing wasn't pressuring them, but there is this moment where somebody hears the prize for the first time and they're like, oh my god, and they need to be a little bit prepared. And that's something you can do in the framework of your sales call, but it's also something you can already do in the journey leading up to the sales call. And I yeah, like just to round up that whole part about what were the results from you in the mastermind. Of course, you signed seven clients, you changed your offer, or you added an extra offer as well. Are there like and the mindset shifts we also just talked a bit about with the marketing? Are there any other things that you would like to add around mindset or like non-tenual results that you really take with you on the long term in your business? No, it's really just this that there's a the the resistance is just it's just yeah, maybe not 100%, but it's now this is a big shift, and this is a big shift that I see with my clients as well. That is a constant thing, right? Yeah, yes, there is sometimes still some resistance, but now when it comes up, I naturally check where it comes from, and I have now the experience that all the resistance that was there is gone. So that little bit of resistance that comes up, there's no reason to think that it will stay. So it gives a lot of a lot of confidence and power, and this is what I say with clients as well. They just it's not about getting rid of emotions, right? It's not about rid of getting triggers. They will get less, but then even on top of that, when that trigger comes up, they are just so familiar with the process that it comes up and it's oh interesting. There's still something there. Let me check what it is. This is how it works, this is how I can you do my marketing, and because of the clarity and and the things that are possible, there came more confidence and also the resistance became less. Yeah, they all go together, yeah. Awesome. What was it like working with me? What did you really love about working with me? Yeah, for me, I really like that you're very direct and very honest, very clear, no bullshit, pointing out whenever you see bullshit. I think this is a very good skill, and this is again something that I'm this is how I work as well. So I just got a lot of inspiration from you, resonance, and yeah, you always have uh a positive, uplifting, motivative energy. You always know how to explain the questions that are coming. Yeah, you managed uh quite some times in the process where I was just stressing myself the whole week and then on one of the calls or say or whatever, uh, you yeah, there was many times where you could calm me down again and brought me back into the back end on the seat on the horse. So just oh yeah, okay. It's going forward, just going forward. I love that. Yeah, just going in the right direction because you you are going anyway, you're doing all the things, and whether it's putting all your energy into overthinking or putting all your energy and taking that one little next step that actually stops the overthinking that makes all the difference. And in the future, what do you see as they what do you see available for yourself right now with what you set up for the long-term strategy in the next six to twelve months because of the work that we did together? What do you see for yourself in your business now? You mean in one year from now, picture you mean or longer? And let's do one year. Yeah, just right. So this is mixing a lot. You helped me with this as well. At the end, this was not only for my hypnotherapy business, but you also motivated me to finally go to the recording studio and record my songs and uh that I now on Spotify and just being more strict with goal setting and actually really doing it. And then I have now the third wheel, which is the dance lab. So let me take a little step back and explain to everybody what type of artist you are and where they can find you. Yeah, it's okay. Yeah, so they can find me on Spotify, Marayan Beyond, and they can find me my main platform. Is on Instagram for now, is Marayan Beyond Survival. And yeah, so there's so many different things that I'm doing, and they all felt very separated, and now they are starting to really merge together, which is the hypnotherapy business. Uh, I come from theater, my theater was my first education, so this is coming back into the game now. My music is lifting off. I have now this new workshop that I'm so passionate about, where it's more embodiment and dance and hypnotherapy coming together. I'm getting more and more invited to places to just speak about things, about life, about whatever. And yeah, they start to really come together. So, in one year, I I can really see how that is merged together. I can just not say how it's gonna be merged together, but it's gonna be merged together. Some things. And I don't know. I just remembered when we started in the first part of messaging and the first week of working together, it already became more clear. Like for me, it was very clear that this was all interconnected. But for you, I knew you didn't see that vision yet. And you also had three different Instagram accounts, right? A long time ago. Oh, the mess, it was so messed, it caused so much stress, and then Facebook is and Instagram, they were not it was not uh connecting, uh it was a mess, and I didn't know and stressing. I couldn't get it to work, and then you said, Yeah, just delete them and just bring it all together to one. Okay, yeah, that was one of the very practical ways where I made your life a lot simpler. Yes. Okay, so yeah, and more like combining everything and what I already feel because you're you didn't say this, but for who's listening, like your music is very connected with what you do in hemotherapy. It's uh music medicine, it's really beautiful, uplifting music that helps you go from survival. So if that's the type of music that you're looking for, check him out. Because I know there are not that many artists right now that have that vibe. And if you would say something right now to somebody who's considering joining the magnetic mastermind, what would you say to that person? Do it if you really want to, if you're really ready to step into the center of your life and take your business really the direction that you want to take it. But it has to come with this strong commitment. And when there is this strong commitment, yeah, then this is an amazing program for them. Yeah, I love that. Yeah, my clients definitely need to have that fire from within. And if they feel it when they're engaging with me and when they're like looking at my stuff, then that's a good sign that I can activate them even more. And then I have all the tools and the structure to to make them move, but they need to bring it. That's it. They need to bring it themselves, they need to be willing, and then I can show the path. Yeah. Then this counts for hypnotherapy as well, right? This is coaching. That is where we resonate a lot. Like we cannot work with people that are not that want us to do the work for them. Yeah. Whether that is about hypnotherapy or business coaching, it's really the same idea. We can only guide them. And that's something that my one of my signature methods, the high vibe messaging, which we didn't talk much about here, but it is so much in line with my work, with Mariah's work, about activating people to feel empowered and to take those steps and not to push or pressure them into working with you because they need to survive, but really because you're already showing them what it is to have abundance, to be to celebrate life, to be the hero of your own story. And also for those reasons, because of my work and of the work that you do, I resonated a lot with your work as a hypnotherapist. And actually, I joined your program. I'm still in your program, so we're making a lot of shifts and I'm shifting even more. And you're I'm gonna give the stage to you to Charlotte a bit about why they can find you. But also for those who are hearing this, it's not just about people who are constantly in surviving mode because I'm not, I'm definitely not, but I really want to celebrate more. And one of the biggest examples where I saw how you embody your own work is you are most of the time in celebration mode, but then obviously we are multidimensional persons, we have all these different sort stories and sidelines of how we go through life. And one of your topics that was very happy was marketing and was business, and you really understood that, and you also used my tools, but also your own tools, to really shift from the survival towards celebration within marketing. Um, and I saw that, and that really inspired me, and that got me also really excited to work with you on yeah, on me shifting even more in celebration mode and using that in all different areas of my life because what you do in one area of your life is it it always shows in the other areas as well. So you will probably feel this and recognize this as well by healing your relationship with sales and marketing, you actually felt more alive and more celebrating in other areas as well. Yeah, so that's what we are also working on for me to just find these places where it's still a little bit surviving mode and shift it and and just constantly um go to that next level. So, yeah, that's why I'm a big fan of the work that we do together. If people would like to work with you, what's where can they find you? What would be the next step for them to contact you? Yeah, so just to round that part up quickly, yeah, because in survival mode, the moment that you're in survival mode, you're basically following a lie. There is some lie that you're taking still serious that makes you not fully see your true power. So you're giving away some power. So this is really what the celebration mode means acknowledging that true essence that you are. So if you want to work more with that, to have amazing, quick and tangible tools to make that shift constantly into celebration mode, and then at the same time diving deep into yourself to find all these parts inside you that are not yet on your team. That is basically what's happened. There's all these little parts that are maybe still a lot in some pain in survival. There's some parts that are somewhere hiding in the shadow, and it's really the process is about getting all them back together into one big family or all one big team where you are the coach. The healing journey is very simple. This is my big passion to make people really understand and really see that the healing journey is super, super simple. It's not easy, but you it's just simple. As long as you take the steps, you're gonna get there. There's nothing that can stop you from that, as long as you keep going. Same with business, by the way. If you keep going, if you keep implementing, if you keep improving and you're not giving up, it's gonna happen eventually. If you get the right supports, if you keep going, that's life. You can only lose if you really give up. It's a beautiful game. It's not we're not playing a business game and a therapy game, and this is just the game of life. So yeah, play it in the fullest. That's it for this interview. Thank you so much. I'll talk to you soon. Thank you. Love you. Love you too. Before we wrap up this episode, I want to leave you with three key takeaways from this conversation. The first one is resistance is persistence, but also resistance is not really the problem. It points you to a direction where you can look at. It doesn't mean something is wrong or that you're doing something wrong. It also doesn't mean that you're not made for visibility, for sales, for marketing, or growth. It simply means that there is something asking to be seen, understood, and shifted. And when you stop making resistance mean something dramatic about you, you can actually move through it so much faster. The second takeaway is clarity creates safety. The more honest, clear, and transparent you are in your messaging, your offers, your sales process, the more grounded and empowered your potential clients get to feel in the process of deciding if they want to hire you. People don't need to be convinced, but they do need to understand what you do, who it's for, and what that path looks like. Clarity changes everything because when they are clear, they can actually convince themselves. They don't need you to be salesier sleazy. They just need to understand the actual value of what they're gonna pay for. And the third takeaway is your business gets so much more powerful when more of you gets to come into it. Not less of you, not more polished, not more strategic, not more acceptable. The real power is an integration. When your gifts, your voice, your story, your methods, your artistry, your leadership, when all of that gets to come together, that is when your work becomes magnetic. And that is what happens when you don't just look at everything separately, at the sales, the marketing, but you really look at it from a business model perspective. That's exactly what the premium expansion model is all about. It's not just about expanding one offer or one strategy, it's about expanding the whole business with you as the founder, as the CEO behind that business, as you are expanding who you are at the same time. And if you're listening to this and you know you are in that season where your business is asking for that next level for more clarity, more embodied messaging, better sales, stronger offers, deeper self-trust, and real momentum. Then I want to invite you into the expand mastermind. It's an invitation only, so you do need to apply and then I will invite you. But expand is for the coach, the healer, the facilitator, the visionary who knows they are not here to play small. It's for the person who is ready to stop circling, to stop overthinking, and to start building a business that actually matches your power instead of kept it. There's so many of you out there right now with a business model that is keeping you so freaking small and that doesn't allow space for all your gifts to come together through a big transformation. Of course, that starts with having your premium offer in place, but it goes beyond that. It's about building a business that feels aligned, sustainable, profitable, and fully expressed. Or you have monthly recurring revenue locked in for the next six months at least, so that you feel safe in your business. Your nervous system feels safe in your business. If you're only selling one-on-one sessions or maybe group programs or doing launches or having okay, I would say three-month programs, but that's where you should start when you do a premium offer. But I help my clients expand beyond that. That's also the reason why expend right now is not available for four months only. We don't do that anymore. I want to take you deeper. I want to really rewrite the foundations of your business together so that it's not a quick fix. It's not a thing that you do for four months and then you move on and you forget about the power of this work. It's really integrated in your business, in your life, every day, how you show up, because premium offers, it's not something you do on the side. It's something you choose to be. To be a match for premium offers and to design your business around that, to design your offers around that, to have a product speed that is scalable and that leads into the next thing, so that one yes can become 10 yeses, so that one client alone could pay you 30,000 just by having an ascending path in your business. So if this episode spoke to you, if something you is already saying this is my next step, trust that. Lean in. Send me a message on Instagram saying expand and we can flirt together about what that looks like for you, where you're at in your business right now. You can also apply directly. I might have put the application link below this episode. When you fill that in, you can also unlock a call with me. I only take calls with those who have filled in the application process and are accepted. And if you're not accepted, I will still have a conversation with you in the DMs. I will still point you to the next best step for you. 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