Seven Years, Still Laughing

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We trade big-house fantasies for paid-off freedom, swap romance clichés for daily rituals, and relive a muddy Hawaii detour that taught us more than any perfect itinerary. Humor threads through real talk on apologies, money, date nights, and the tiny habits that keep us close.

• seven-year anniversary reflections and what still works
• the Hawaii hike story and why getting lost bonded us
• small rituals that compound connection
• night drives, phones down, and conversation over scrolling
• dishwasher philosophies and low-friction house rules
• who apologizes first and how to do it well
• budget choices, debt trade-offs, and freedom math
• many small trips versus one luxury trip planning
• concerts, casinos, and choosing experiences
• next week’s guest tease and listener questions ask

“you guys gotta start submitting questions. it really is anonymous. i pinky promise.”

Transcript

Opening Banter & Wins of the Week

SPEAKER_01 0:17

Welcome back, everybody, to a new episode of Outside the Shop.

SPEAKER_02 0:22

What's up?

SPEAKER_01 0:24

It's another episode. We haven't been canceled yet.

SPEAKER_02 0:28

I know. We haven't been canceled yet. That's kind of impressive. We gotta try harder.

SPEAKER_01 0:34

Way harder. Way harder. But thanks for coming back for another episode. And thanks for listening.

SPEAKER_02 0:41

Yes, you guys gotta start submitting questions.

SPEAKER_01 0:44

Submit all of the questions.

SPEAKER_02 0:46

It really is anonymous. I pinky promise.

SPEAKER_01 0:49

Yeah, we wanna have so many that we're overwhelmed that we have enough when we do solos that we can uh answer them.

SPEAKER_02 0:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 0:58

But until then, let's start off with our win of the week on this new episode.

SPEAKER_02 1:03

Well, my win of the week is that I think I responsibly packed. I feel like we've been talking about packing for like three weeks now. But I responsibly packed and then I got all my work stuff done so that I can have a worry-free vacation.

SPEAKER_01 1:20

Yeah, I've been packed for a while and it was very nice. I I would like to do that every time. Almost impossible to do. That's not my win of the week. My win of the week is gonna blow your mind. Elon Musk sent me a Facebook friend request.

SPEAKER_02 1:36

I got one too. Our podcast is getting out there.

SPEAKER_01 1:39

We blew up. Elon Musk. I think it really said Elon Musk is real or Elon, the real Elon Musk or something.

SPEAKER_02 1:46

No, it said Elon Musk Tesla.

SPEAKER_01 1:48

Oh yeah, Elon Musk Tesla sent me a friend request on Facebook.

SPEAKER_02 1:53

So if he can send a friend request, he could send a question in.

SPEAKER_01 1:56

Absolutely. I accept it. I said, What's up, Elon? Can I get a free Tesla?

SPEAKER_02 2:00

I reported him as fake profile.

SPEAKER_01 2:04

That's my winner of the week. Elon Musk is now the homie.

SPEAKER_02 2:08

So nice.

SPEAKER_01 2:10

Maybe I can get rich.

SPEAKER_02 2:13

By doing what? Being friends with him? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:15

Cut his hair or something.

SPEAKER_02 2:17

You can do some personal favors, close the blinds at the barber shop.

SPEAKER_01 2:20

Maybe get him on outside the shop here, you know?

SPEAKER_02 2:23

Maybe.

SPEAKER_01 2:24

Come on in.

SPEAKER_02 2:25

I mean, it's gonna look nothing like Elon Musk because it is not him, but there will be someone.

SPEAKER_01 2:31

We're gonna have a weird Asian guy sitting here that doesn't speak any English.

SPEAKER_02 2:35

Just says Elon Musk over and over and Tesla.

SPEAKER_01 2:39

How did you get famous, Tesla? Okay, what was your keys to success, Tesla? What's your future looking like for you, Elon? How's it working with the president, Tesla?

SPEAKER_02 2:51

Pretty much.

Seven-Year Anniversary Reflections

SPEAKER_01 2:52

Straight up answers. But I got some good news this week.

SPEAKER_02 2:55

What?

SPEAKER_01 2:56

It's our anniversary.

SPEAKER_02 2:57

Oh, yeah, I knew that.

SPEAKER_01 2:59

Yeah. Seven years.

SPEAKER_02 3:01

Happy wedding anniversary.

SPEAKER_01 3:03

Happy anniversary.

SPEAKER_02 3:05

Seven years. How does it feel longer, but also like shorter?

SPEAKER_01 3:10

Well, I have no clue.

SPEAKER_02 3:13

Yeah. Does it feel like that to you?

SPEAKER_01 3:15

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it feels like a lifetime of fun and adventure and excitement and uh also a short time worth. It's kind of interesting.

SPEAKER_02 3:23

We have the rest of our life together.

SPEAKER_01 3:25

Yeah. 70. That's the goal. 70 more.

SPEAKER_02 3:30

I mean, yeah, it's like great, but like let's think even more. Why you gotta cut me off? Yeah, sorry. Like maybe I maybe I'm gonna live till 104. And Tim's gonna freaking divorce me when he's 102 and be like, sorry, I gave us a cutoff on our podcast. So we're we gotta get divorced at 102.

Hawaii Adventures & Getting Lost

SPEAKER_01 3:53

No, thanks. I'm good. Well, for our anniversary, we have a lot of anniversary questions and excitement to talk about. But before we get into those questions, well, kind of, these are still questions, scenario based. Uh seven years, so we have a lot to talk about. What's your favorite experience in the last seven years?

SPEAKER_02 4:15

Any vacation with you, really anytime. Um, my favorite would be Hawaii when we went the first time.

SPEAKER_01 4:23

Absolutely. Um if we're just talking pure, like outside of if we don't want to be so broad on the first time to Hawaii, the whole trip was amazing. The kayaks was pretty fun, and then hiking up to the waterfall, that was a good one.

SPEAKER_02 4:36

Yeah, driving the Jeep around with the top off.

unknown 4:39

Yeah, one.

SPEAKER_02 4:40

The Jeep's top, not mine.

SPEAKER_01 4:42

Would have been more fun that way. I would have been down.

SPEAKER_02 4:46

We know.

SPEAKER_01 4:47

Know that. Yeah, uh, we also hiked over that mountain, got lost, hiked back down the wrong way, and had to Uber back to the car because we didn't want to hike three plus hours back through the call.

SPEAKER_02 4:59

I think we slid like halfway down. It was so muddy.

SPEAKER_01 5:03

Oh my goodness, it was so muddy, but it was and you get down quicker that way.

SPEAKER_02 5:06

Oh, yeah, we did Uber back because it was like five miles.

SPEAKER_01 5:10

We were like five miles from the car.

SPEAKER_02 5:12

How do we find an Uber out there? They must know. They probably know to like be out there towards that area.

SPEAKER_01 5:18

Yeah, because we were in the middle of nowhere at that point, but they found us and they took us back to the car.

SPEAKER_02 5:23

We got very lost.

SPEAKER_01 5:25

Yeah, the crazy thing is is we didn't know where to Uber, like how to explain the Uber when we were putting it in where to go back to. Yeah, that's like I don't know where the mountain. This could be anywhere around the mountain. We kind of just had to tell the entrance, you know.

SPEAKER_02 5:39

He ended up guiding us because I feel like we told him the wrong spot, but he was like, he knew the area, obviously. And he's like, Okay, where did you guys park? And started like naming things off and landmarks, and we're like, Okay, yeah, that's it.

SPEAKER_01 5:51

Yeah, but thank goodness.

SPEAKER_02 5:53

I don't know if we would have made it.

SPEAKER_01 5:54

Oh, we would have been sleeping, we would have been winding around roads, and yeah, it was it was fun. Yeah, crazy adventure right there. Can't get much better than that. Getting lost in the middle of Hawaii.

SPEAKER_02 6:05

Not a bad place to be homeless either. I was thinking about like if we had to sleep in the like woods or whatever there.

SPEAKER_01 6:12

I mean, I guess if it came down to it, we could have tried to hike back over, but getting back up that side of the mountain would have been with all the mud, would have been so hard. I don't know if we would have been able to get back over. It would have taken us three plus hours easily.

SPEAKER_02 6:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:28

It's crazy because it took us, well, we took our time, you know, we were sightseeing and adventuring and getting lost. Yeah, and we didn't even get all the way to the top.

SPEAKER_02 6:35

We didn't get to the area where we were like trying to go. Yeah, we've seen it overlap.

SPEAKER_01 6:40

I think got lost. But I remember the from the waterfall hike, the guy that we had guiding us through it. He's like, Yeah, I run that mountain in about 17 minutes, and it took us like two and a half to get halfway up it. I was like, dude, what? It took us like two and a half to get halfway up it yesterday. He's like, Yeah, I'd run it in 17 minutes. I was like, God, you're an animal, dude. Yeah, I mean, he lives there, so I guess he's got all the experience, but deck um, man. And it's muddy. He's like, Yeah, when it's muddy, it takes like 25.

SPEAKER_02 7:13

I was like, Oh, and it's he doesn't just do the kayaks, he also we had to walk through to get to a waterfall. It was, I mean, he does that all the time. Yeah, so he's used to it. And he probably surfed, I don't remember if he did.

SPEAKER_01 7:29

Yeah, for sure. Remember, uh, remember when we were there, they had uh that big huge great white shark that had been flying or floating around, swimming around all the Hawaii islands, and he had that he got to see it. Yeah, it's the world's largest great white shark ever recorded. He got to see it. That's pretty cool. That's a cool experience.

SPEAKER_02 7:47

He posted it on Instagram.

SPEAKER_01 7:48

Yeah, that's sick. Yeah, he told us where the turtles were. He did a lot, he told us a lot. He made stuff out of grass, that's pretty cool too.

SPEAKER_02 7:56

Yeah, we still have it. We saw it last night.

Concerts, Vacations, and Flow

SPEAKER_01 7:59

Yep. Out of our seven years, what's the most fun concert you've been to?

SPEAKER_02 8:05

Fun. Oh, most fun concert?

SPEAKER_01 8:07

Yeah, fun.

SPEAKER_02 8:09

Ian Munsack.

SPEAKER_01 8:10

Easy, right? That was the easiest decision. We've been to, I don't know, we might have been to a hundred plus concerts at this pace. Maybe I think we have like eight alone this year. So we've been to a lot, but that in Muncet concert was fun. And we get to do it again front row.

SPEAKER_02 8:28

At the river or at hard rock? Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:31

I can't wait. That's gonna be a freaking blast. It's a really long silence there.

SPEAKER_02 8:40

Oh, I need you guys to know that I'm I just kind of showed up for the podcast. I've been so busy at work and like we have to leave for vacation in like an hour. And so Tim is leading this, and I'm I'm just here.

SPEAKER_01 8:53

And sometimes I forget. I'm I'm used to going with the flow, and then I'm like, wait, I'm leading this and I know how to do this. I've done this before. Just keep going, you know, just keep the conversation going. But it's you know, you know how that goes, and then the long silences, but we're gonna do good from this point on.

SPEAKER_02 9:08

How many years did you do your sports podcast?

SPEAKER_01 9:10

Uh over three.

SPEAKER_02 9:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:13

Three full seasons, probably four total years.

SPEAKER_02 9:15

Yeah. Long time.

Staying Connected: Rituals & Habits

SPEAKER_01 9:16

And then I had this long decision this year of if I was gonna do it again. I was like, we're gonna do it again. And I went back and forth, and thank goodness I didn't do this, it'd be a disaster right now, talking about Oklahoma State every week. But I came to the conclusion, if you're considering retiring, I heard this from Dana White, if it's even in the back of your mind, you probably should. And that's where I was at. That's what made me decide to say, hey, it was a good run. Got a lot of cool people on. I don't I don't have the energy for it.

SPEAKER_02 9:42

It doesn't help that you're an OSU fan.

SPEAKER_01 9:45

Oh, dude. It just makes it way worse.

SPEAKER_02 9:47

At least you have the Chiefs going for you.

SPEAKER_01 9:49

Let's go! Kansas City Chiefs. We're gonna win the Super Bowl again. Um I have a question. What is it?

SPEAKER_02 9:57

What are some small rituals or habits that we've built together um that we've just continued to do? Like something that could have started small and we've continued to do over our marriage.

SPEAKER_01 10:07

Um, before bed, we say I'll see you in the morning.

SPEAKER_02 10:09

Man, that was gonna be mine.

SPEAKER_01 10:10

Yeah, gang gang. That's a that's one that we do. We just started doing it and never quit.

SPEAKER_02 10:18

We always kiss each other when we wake up and when we get home, and a lot of other times too. Well, yeah. That's true. I mean, you're not wrong.

SPEAKER_01 10:33

I just had to throw that in there.

SPEAKER_02 10:36

We only kiss twice a day. Morning and night. Kind of like brushing your teeth. You only do it twice a day.

SPEAKER_01 10:42

Uh that's probably the most obvious one that came to my mind. I'm sure there's other things that we do that, you know, I don't even realize that we do, but that's that's the obvious one to me. Let's see, what else? I know there's other stuff, but that's that's where I'm at with that one, you know.

SPEAKER_00 10:59

I'm just I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 11:03

There's something out there, but yeah, that's that's the obvious one. Uh so there's a couple of things that we do to stay connected. The seven years of marriage, we've done a good job of staying connected, not uh losing out on staying connected, and sometimes it's hard.

SPEAKER_02 11:19

Yeah, you know, we mostly do it through Facebook. We just stayed.

SPEAKER_01 11:22

Yes, yes, yeah. What's she up to? And go to the Facebook. You'd be screwed on mine. It's just same Kansas City and random Oklahoma State, and uh, I think I posted a hunting one this week and country music.

SPEAKER_02 11:37

Yeah, I post for like birthday, like just mine and yours birthday anniversaries, and then I'll share like friends' businesses when they make a post.

SPEAKER_01 11:47

Yeah, pretty random. That's really all I got. Yeah, pretty random. So I don't not have just life living on there, you know. They can't I mean when we go places you can live by curiously through the portion of our photos that we take because it's a lot more that we have that we don't post. But yeah, Facebook is not a good way to determine how really what's going on.

SPEAKER_00 12:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:08

And that's in the majority of people's lives, I would imagine. But I mean, I'm sure there are some people out there that put their whole entire lives on Facebook. I don't know. Oh, for sure. Yeah, I'm not friends with them. I delete them. I can't handle it.

SPEAKER_02 12:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:19

Unless they're my family, then I have to.

SPEAKER_02 12:22

Yeah. I mean, it doesn't really bother me because like it I don't know, it doesn't affect me and it's not like I'm lost in the scroll.

SPEAKER_01 12:30

If we uh if you do feel like any kind of disconnect, what is your go-to to get it back outside of just conversating? We'll go activity-based.

SPEAKER_02 12:40

Nightly drive. God dang it, that's weird. I have another one. Um we'll just dance to a song or not a song even. We'll just slow dance.

SPEAKER_01 12:54

Yeah, a lot of times go on I literally have go on long drives. That's my go-to. That's the easiest way for me to just just go drive. It's kind of weird, you know, but that's what I like. That's how I keep connected. I'm able to just express and open where my mind is set, and you know, I can get away from all the everything that's in your mind, and that's how I do it.

SPEAKER_02 13:14

Yeah, and it's even better, like if the weather is nice, then the windows are down, you're getting fresh air, you're just driving, you know, some back roads. And the conversation just flows.

SPEAKER_01 13:26

I love being outside. So when I'm able to drive and do it, it just makes for that much of a difference. So that's my go-to right there. But uh another one that we do is we just take random nightly trips sometimes. We'll just say, Hey, let's go, you know, like we went to the place.

SPEAKER_02 13:41

Oh yeah. We'll, you know, go to Oklahoma City. And it doesn't have to be, you know, for a week, you can go one night.

SPEAKER_01 13:48

Oh yeah, we'll do a night.

SPEAKER_02 13:49

Um, two nights, you know, the weekend, enough time.

Night Drives, Phones Down, and Games

SPEAKER_01 13:55

That's uh that's a pretty good way, you know. As long as you can get into a uh situation or place or scenario, something that you can do to exit life from all the outside factors and move into just where the two of you can conversate. That's that's how we reconnect. Everyone obviously does it differently. You can some people reconnect by not talking at all. Like they're they're connection pieces. I'm sure that that's the case. That ain't me. I'm not that that I get it all jittery. I can't even sit down and watch TV shows for hours at a time.

SPEAKER_02 14:25

So um we'll put our phones down, like we'll leave them in the room. Um if we felt like we had some disconnect and you just kind of recognize it, then we have these things we'll do where we're like, okay, when we come home, like let's set our phones in the room on the bed, and then you know, be away from them. Because then not that you're forced to talk to each other, but you're not easily getting lost in your phone. Because it's really easy to, especially when you just want to um unwind from the work day, it's pretty easy to go to our phones.

SPEAKER_01 14:58

Yes, my favorite. In those moments, is it wreck you and checkers?

SPEAKER_02 15:03

Yeah, I'm not sure if I'm gonna be playing checkers ever again.

SPEAKER_01 15:09

We're 50-50 on connect four, so wait, no, chess. No checkers. I don't know how to play chess, so I've never why do I always think it's chess? Yeah, I have no clue.

SPEAKER_02 15:17

I can't even win at checkers. I'm not about to learn chess.

SPEAKER_01 15:20

Yeah, no chance. I'm not playing chess. There's too many rules. Checkers is way easier, but connect four, we're in the middle. War is pretty even.

SPEAKER_02 15:27

Yeah. Speaking of checkers, I downloaded a game to get better at checkers. It has like training ones, and then um you can do certain uh levels. And when Tim saw that I was playing it, he was like, Oh, that's cool. Let me download it. He beat all the levels. I just stopped playing because I'm on like level six, and he's like, Yeah, I'm on 39. This move is really hard. And I'm like, I'm gonna know what's happening. So then I just made him better.

SPEAKER_01 15:54

Yeah, I beat every lymph. I was actually mad. I was like, wait, there's no more levels. Now what am I gonna do? So I'll have solitaire on my phone now. It was pretty nice while I was hunting yesterday to pass a time by. I was like, I'll play a little solitaire.

SPEAKER_02 16:07

You were trying not to fall asleep.

SPEAKER_01 16:08

Yeah, so I had to play solitaire. I was like, hey, if I'm gonna crash out, I gotta, I gotta do something. So I played a little solitaire.

SPEAKER_02 16:16

If you dropped your phone when you were in the stand, would you get down? Or would you just okay, good?

SPEAKER_01 16:21

I'm just gonna wait it out.

SPEAKER_02 16:22

Good.

SPEAKER_01 16:22

It almost happened to me yesterday. I put it in my little vest pocket and I went to reset my butt because I left my freaking pad at home to sit on. So that it's all metal, you know, so the crate was hard. I was like, I gotta readjust. And I sit up and that thing slipped and I caught it.

SPEAKER_02 16:37

Nice.

SPEAKER_01 16:37

Yeah, it was almost almost a bummer.

SPEAKER_02 16:39

Oh well.

SPEAKER_01 16:40

I know it it was an old well situation because it was like 6 30 when I heard that deer going. I was like, this little whore, she must have smelled me.

SPEAKER_02 16:52

Well, maybe you shouldn't have worn your 1 million cologne.

SPEAKER_01 16:55

I didn't wear any cologne. I don't wear cologne hunting.

SPEAKER_02 16:58

I just you did in the morning, right? Before work.

SPEAKER_01 17:01

I think that's a good one.

SPEAKER_02 17:02

Yeah, but you're there's a whole reason they have like the soap that you put on.

SPEAKER_01 17:07

I need to spray better. Hope I don't get you canceled for saying the word.

SPEAKER_02 17:11

You have long word, you have long luscious hair now, like and so it's gonna blow in the wind and spread that scent around. You gotta get the scent killer.

SPEAKER_01 17:21

I like that luscious. Oh, yeah, I've been luscious lots. This baby's flowing.

SPEAKER_02 17:27

It is. I love it.

SPEAKER_01 17:28

Flowing like the rivers, like the Nile, and not the one that you're in either.

SPEAKER_02 17:33

The Nile.

SPEAKER_01 17:37

Three questions about our marriage is finally approached in this podcast. Pretty lighthearted and easy ones. And all of the answers, especially the first one, is easy. And if you answer wrong, you're wrong, just so you know.

SPEAKER_00 17:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 17:54

How is who is the most dangerous driver and who is the best driver?

SPEAKER_02 17:58

Okay, this goes off each of our own opinions.

SPEAKER_01 18:03

Yeah, so you need to have the right one. You for both. That's what I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_02 18:09

Is that the right answer?

SPEAKER_01 18:10

That's the right answer. Yeah, I understand. I mean, it's true.

SPEAKER_02 18:12

That's why it's the right answer.

Marriage Lightning Round: Driving, Romance, Snacks

SPEAKER_01 18:14

I'm a reckless driver. And knock on wood, it hasn't come back to it, hasn't come back to get me yet, which means I'm good.

SPEAKER_02 18:20

It's just a little wild out there.

SPEAKER_01 18:22

A lot of wild out there. Some road rage. It's a fun time. I know that.

SPEAKER_02 18:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:26

I don't have road rage. I have stoop people rage. You have road rage. If you come to a stop sign and you're turning right, turn go. It's like, dude, I don't know. I'm not gonna get into it. My road rage is gonna show if I keep going.

SPEAKER_02 18:42

I just I tell them, I'm like, you can't control how safe other people want to feel. Like, you know, we don't have kids in the car, but I notice when I'm with my when I'm driving my niece and nephew, I am taking things way more slow. I'm being extra observant. And so you can't be mad at other people's safety for themselves. I think people there is people who are just dumb drivers.

SPEAKER_01 19:02

Yeah, I think people are waiting on the zombie apocalypse to turn sometimes. I'm like, dude, what are you waiting on? And then conveniently when they decide to turn is when you see cars coming, I'm like, that is makes zero freaking sense. Now I have to wait for all these cars to pass a turn when we both could have been just driving. It makes no sense. Yeah, I'm I'm more dangerous, but I'm also better. I'll pull out front of cars. I don't care.

SPEAKER_02 19:24

Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_01 19:26

You just gotta hit it. Pedal to the metal, dick. Sometimes I forget I'm in a Toyota RAV, though.

SPEAKER_02 19:32

I know it doesn't get going like our trailblazer did.

SPEAKER_01 19:35

Or any car that I've owned for that. Honestly. Yeah. Yeah. Uh I'm a big fan of the race cars, and I forget I don't have them at times. I'm like, I'm in a Toyota RAV. You're a four-cylinder toyota RAV. This baby ain't got no pep. You can put it in sport mode and it still is like, when's it gonna go? Ain't no racing in that thing unless it's a um mail carrier.

SPEAKER_02 19:56

And well, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 19:58

Those might beat me too. They look pretty fast. They'd be whipping them things around and jumping out and running and I'm like, dang, dang. Suckers are fast.

SPEAKER_02 20:07

Who do you think is the more romantic one?

SPEAKER_01 20:10

You really it ain't me.

SPEAKER_02 20:13

I mean, you do so many small things every day for me that I mean you just try to make my life easier every single day, and that's really romantic.

SPEAKER_01 20:25

Is it?

SPEAKER_02 20:26

Yeah. You make my life easier, it's like less stressful.

SPEAKER_01 20:30

I just do it because I love you.

SPEAKER_02 20:32

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 20:33

I didn't know it was romantic. When it comes to like romantic breakdown, like what people would consider like romance, uh, I'm out. I'm not good at it. I can't.

SPEAKER_02 20:44

Well, you've got it down for my love languages.

SPEAKER_01 20:46

That's all I'm worried about.

SPEAKER_02 20:47

All right, all right.

SPEAKER_01 20:48

Yeah, because you want me to do like a candlelight dinner and uh I'm not good at it. I ain't I ain't a whole I don't know, like coming up with like a scenario for this one. I can't even give you a scenario.

SPEAKER_02 21:01

Well, it's about knowing like it doesn't have to be what everyone else thinks is like romantic because I might not give a shit. Yeah, you know, and it really depends on each person's love language and what's gonna help them, you know, feel loved and de-stressed after the day. Because maybe that would stress me out more, you know, what other people find romantic.

SPEAKER_01 21:23

Yeah, I don't really know what's romantic to me because I don't really know romance, I just know what I like, and you do a pretty good job at it. So that works for me.

SPEAKER_02 21:33

All right, we got it down, we're going good.

SPEAKER_01 21:36

Here's a good one. If there is one snack lip, for example, a pop-tart, is it fair game or should you ask before you eat it?

SPEAKER_02 21:48

So we do something different. Um, we split it. If we're both home, we usually just split it. Well, not the Pop Tart scenario. I can't get into that again. I'm gonna get mad. We're gonna have to go for a nightly drive. I think we are. We're driving four hours. So um I mean, I I don't think we get very salty about that kind of stuff. It's been it's happened twice, but only twice in seven years, and it was one in each for us.

SPEAKER_01 22:19

And we're both still annoyed at it.

SPEAKER_02 22:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:23

So I think that's why like we share this away. Maybe. Maybe that's why.

SPEAKER_02 22:29

See, we're being proactive and we're resolving these conflicts because it hasn't been an issue since.

SPEAKER_01 22:36

Never thought of it like that. See, we didn't even talk about it. We just resolved it on our own. Best way to do it is just ask, hey, you want half of this?

SPEAKER_02 22:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:46

Speaking of half of this, if we go out to dinner, you say, I don't want dessert, but I want dessert. I get dessert, you eat half of it. Should you be criminally charged?

SPEAKER_02 22:59

No, because it's our dessert now. I didn't want it, but if you got it, then it's ours now.

Money, Casinos, and Risk Styles

SPEAKER_01 23:07

That's why I learned at gas stations. This is what I've learned at gas stations. I don't just get myself snacks anymore. I get them for both of us because it's like if I get four Reese sticks and you're like, I don't want any snacks, and I come in, you're like, Can I get one or two? I'm like, no. And then I give you two of them. I'm like, I can really use my other two Reese sticks.

SPEAKER_02 23:26

And same here.

SPEAKER_01 23:27

So instead, I just get you snacks every time.

SPEAKER_02 23:29

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 23:30

And drinks because the drink is the big one. You want anything to drink? No.

SPEAKER_02 23:33

Oh, yeah, I still do that pretty often, even at home.

SPEAKER_01 23:36

I know. It's like, oh, can I have some of your Dr. Pepper? It's like my diet, Dr. Pepper. I don't drink Dr. Pepper diet DDP.

SPEAKER_00 23:44

Mm-hmm. DDP.

SPEAKER_01 23:46

Anyways, um, yeah, I'll pick it up and three-fourths of the can is gone. I was like, I thought you didn't want one.

SPEAKER_02 23:52

It's like it just being there is suddenly makes me thirsty. I don't know. It just looks better when it's yours.

SPEAKER_01 24:04

Well, that's it for the marriage questions, unless you have any marriage questions or scenarios or anything you want to talk about in our seven years of marriage. It's been amazing and perfect, and everything about it I love.

SPEAKER_02 24:17

I love it all too. I'm seven years. It's just, I don't know. It feels longer but shorter, like I said.

SPEAKER_01 24:25

We should go to the casino.

SPEAKER_02 24:27

There's one on the cruise.

SPEAKER_01 24:29

Oh, yeah, we'll do that.

SPEAKER_02 24:31

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 24:31

Works for me.

SPEAKER_02 24:33

So is it gonna be like for seven years? Is it gonna be seven dollars we can spend? Seven hundred. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Well, heck no.

SPEAKER_01 24:46

I know some people who would, but it ain't me.

SPEAKER_02 24:49

Let's compromise at 70. Perfect each.

SPEAKER_01 24:52

Yeah. All right. Yeah. 70 total, it would take you three minutes.

SPEAKER_02 24:57

Well, yeah, but you you pay you play on like a dollar.

SPEAKER_01 25:01

A quarter and it's 75 cents.

SPEAKER_02 25:04

So well, you can get lost in the penny machines and win.

SPEAKER_01 25:08

Yeah, I usually don't win pennies. I usually win on the quarters.

SPEAKER_02 25:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:12

I mean, I've won on the two dollar machine a couple times. If I'm feeling real froggy, I'll throw in$100 in a two-dollar machine and just see where it gets me.

SPEAKER_02 25:19

Wild.

SPEAKER_01 25:19

Yeah, but once I get to about$40, I'm like, yeah, I'm out. Yeah, I can't lose the rest of this$40. I'm going to my quarter machine and trying to win my$60 back.

SPEAKER_02 25:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:26

Most of the time. Not I mean.

SPEAKER_02 25:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:30

I at least am even. I'm at least even. Play big, win big.

SPEAKER_02 25:35

Yep. Well, he's got to win because he knows that whether I'm spending$20 or$100, I'm not coming back with it or more. So he tries to get up so he can leave even.

SPEAKER_01 25:47

That's the way to do it, right there. That is the way to do it. Luckily, we don't play that much, so it's pretty nice. Pretty nice.

SPEAKER_02 25:54

I got better things to spend money on.

SPEAKER_01 25:57

Well, here's three questions that we got. Are you ready to indulge in the three beautiful questions we got not related to marriage?

SPEAKER_02 26:05

Sure. Let's do it.

SPEAKER_01 26:07

Is there a proper way to load the dishwasher?

SPEAKER_02 26:12

Um, no, dude. I just want them clean. Just don't mess it up.

SPEAKER_01 26:18

Do you wash them beforehand?

SPEAKER_02 26:21

I mean, you gotta rinse them off a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 26:24

That is insane.

SPEAKER_02 26:26

I mean, I usually like it's pretty good wash. Like you're not gonna see a spot on it, but I didn't like wash it wash it.

SPEAKER_01 26:34

Um yeah, she put soap and water in this and uh and scrubbed it and then throws it in the dishwasher.

SPEAKER_02 26:39

Yeah, but it doesn't feel clean enough to like then put up because you don't know what like that sponge or the um I almost call it a sugar daddy, a scrub daddy. There we go. I'm like, what is the word? The scrub daddy, you just don't want that bacteria on it. So throwing it in the dishwasher gives it that extra love and clean. I'll find that scrub. Tim just throws it in the dishwasher.

SPEAKER_01 27:01

Yeah, sure, dude. Yeah, that's what a dishwasher's for. I ain't cleaning it, I'm not rinsing it. I'm gonna put it in the I'll make sure there's no food on it. And it's no, that is not true.

SPEAKER_02 27:12

No, I mean like loose food, like uh so water, like run water over it fall off.

SPEAKER_01 27:17

If it's just like ketchup, no, I'm just putting it. I'm putting it up.

SPEAKER_02 27:19

You don't mean like turn the water on?

unknown 27:21

No.

SPEAKER_02 27:21

But what?

SPEAKER_01 27:23

No. The dishwasher has a heavy wash option for a reason, and that's what I use it for.

SPEAKER_02 27:28

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01 27:29

I put that thing in there, put it on heavy wash. I don't put it on normal, it's heavy for a reason, so it goes through twice. It's a double wash essentially. So all right, and then I let it go, and then I'll just put them up.

SPEAKER_02 27:42

And that makes more sense to you because um because I'm lazy and I'm gonna go. Rather than hand washing them um to put them in the dishwasher, just put it on a double cycle because you save more time that way still for yourself.

SPEAKER_01 27:56

I just think it's easier.

SPEAKER_02 27:58

Yeah, no, I get it.

SPEAKER_01 27:59

Uh-huh. Easy for me. I don't want to wash them to wash it.

SPEAKER_02 28:03

Like, I would be thinking about that when it's time to go pull them out. I'm gonna be like, this thing had, you know, crusty ketchup on it or something. I don't know. I mean, it hasn't bothered me, obviously, because the way you do dishes, I use our silverware and everything. It washes pretty good. I've never taken anything out of the dishwasher that hasn't been clean.

SPEAKER_01 28:24

Same. Maybe we just have a good dishwasher.

SPEAKER_02 28:26

It's a heavy wash.

SPEAKER_01 28:28

Yeah, heavy wash. I finally learned how to turn the high heat and the dry on on it. I've only I only knew how to do one or the other, and I finally learned how to turn them on at the same time. So hopefully they dry a little better in the dishwasher now.

SPEAKER_02 28:41

Well, you guys can tell who does the dishes because um I struggled to get it on because I'll like turn it on but not think it's on because I don't hear it. So then I press the button again. Turns out it's like on pause, and Tim will come over and be like, you gotta hit this button and keep it going.

SPEAKER_01 28:58

Yeah, but I don't do laundry.

SPEAKER_02 29:00

Yeah, I don't mind doing laundry.

SPEAKER_01 29:02

Sometimes I do, you know, but yeah, not not very often.

SPEAKER_02 29:05

I mean, if I ask you if I'm like, hey, I need scrubs for tomorrow, and you'll just do it. Like, it's not that you won't. Same with dishes for me.

SPEAKER_01 29:12

I've gotten better at the laundry. I used to throw spoons in the laundry. Not on purpose, it was an accident.

SPEAKER_02 29:19

Yeah, I I took the laundry out. It was when we were dating in one of our apartments, and there was a spoon at the bottom. And I'm like, all right, that's one way to just try to get it. Kill two birds with one stone.

SPEAKER_01 29:31

How there became a spoon in the laundry, I've got no clue.

SPEAKER_02 29:36

I have no doubt when it comes to you that you were just snacking while doing it. Unless you set the clothes on the counter um because it was attached to the kitchen. And so you like set them down on the counter to do something real quick, and it just got picked up with it.

SPEAKER_01 29:52

I'd probably put that sucker in my pocket.

SPEAKER_02 29:55

After what, like a spoonful of peanut butter?

SPEAKER_01 29:59

Put it in my pocket. I'm I want another spoonful later. That's not impossible.

SPEAKER_02 30:05

Did you do a heavy wash hopefully?

SPEAKER_01 30:08

No, dude. I don't know what I did. I don't even know if I put soap in it.

SPEAKER_02 30:12

We've come so far. Together, we make like a whole functioning person for the most part.

SPEAKER_01 30:18

Even before we lived together for laundry, I would just ship it to you. Not like actually ship it, but I would just bring it to you and you did laundry for me.

SPEAKER_02 30:27

Bring it to me where?

SPEAKER_01 30:28

Well, one time at um the house in Bigsby. I don't remember that that lady's name. Over by Kimberly Clark. I don't know. He was staying upstairs, but I brought my box of my bag of clothes.

SPEAKER_02 30:43

Oh, I remember that. Because we had a nerf gun fight. Yeah, yeah, we didn't know.

SPEAKER_01 30:48

I won. I always do. Not beat me at no nerf guns. Not a chance.

SPEAKER_02 30:54

That's okay. Choose my battles.

SPEAKER_01 30:58

Is being late a personality trait or bad manners?

SPEAKER_02 31:03

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 31:05

Good answer. Good answer.

SPEAKER_02 31:06

Yes. And I think we touched on this a little bit of why we run late.

SPEAKER_01 31:12

I think it's a um I think it's a scenario base.

SPEAKER_02 31:15

Yeah, you have to be mindful of like special celebrations and things that really are like right on time, like you need to be there. Um and we do good at that.

SPEAKER_01 31:26

Yeah, we do. You know, if it's a basketball game or something, if we're a little late. Yeah. I'm annoyed, but I'm fine.

SPEAKER_02 31:33

Like we should have left already as we're recording this.

SPEAKER_01 31:37

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Exactly. Right now is a perfect example. We're recording a podcast and we're supposed to have like uh quite a few things to do. We're fixing. And then a four and a half hour drive. Oh my goodness gracious. Oh well.

SPEAKER_02 31:51

But we don't get on the ship for I mean, because yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:55

And we love you guys that much. All of our listeners mean that much that we're taking time out of our pre-vacation to record this for you.

SPEAKER_02 32:03

I mean, I'm doing it for Elon Musk Tesla.

SPEAKER_01 32:06

So I'm doing it for y'all, so ask some damn questions.

SPEAKER_02 32:10

Right.

SPEAKER_01 32:12

When planning date nights, is it better to try new things or stick to what you know? And why?

SPEAKER_02 32:18

I think it just or you know what you go first. Let's just I do have an answer.

SPEAKER_01 32:23

Is it a quick date night, you know? Like, are you is it a date night that you planned months in advance, weeks in advance, or are you just one night like, hey, let's do a date night? Because if it's one of those where it's like, hey, let's do a date night tonight, because we haven't done one in a while, I don't I think it's okay to do you know, normal date night things, you know, that you've done before or haven't done before. And I think that's okay even if you planned it, honestly. I think it just depends on what you want, you know. It's like if you if you know, for instance, like you go to this restaurant or you do this, I don't know, adventure. If you're a pickleball person, you know, whatever it may be as a date and it's something that works for you every time, why not? I think that's okay. Yeah, I also think it's okay to adventure out. You're like, I want to do a date night, but I want it to be adventurous. I want to, I'm feeling a little froggy, you know. Let's let's go egg some houses, you know. Let's go around Halloween time time and rip people's Halloween stuff down, you know.

SPEAKER_02 33:17

Wow. I wouldn't really what is the distraction here, Tim?

SPEAKER_01 33:20

I wouldn't really encourage it, but I mean that's what you want to do, you know.

SPEAKER_02 33:24

Remember, we said we're not liable for any advice we give out on here. I'm just saying, let me circle back to that one.

SPEAKER_01 33:30

I'm just saying that's not the worst idea in the world, you know? Yeah, here we'll go a little bit less if you want to go do some donuts in a parking lot. Yeah, it's probably still not a good idea. Dang, I need to. If you want to go go kart racing, if you're not a normal go-kart racer and you want to go go-kart racing, go freaking go-kart racing. You know, it's like, hey, I want to, I don't want to just eat and go to a movie and you know, have the same old, same old. I want to do some adventure, something fun. Go race some goat karts, you know, if you can find any.

SPEAKER_02 33:56

I think it's good to incorporate something new every once in a while. Yeah, jump out of the airplane. Don't always get stuck in the normal because but also it's you have to be intentional of how you're going into it. Cause you can call it a date night and do something new or do something that you typically do and still not conversate with each other. You can still be on your phones. I see it all the time when we go out. Um, people sitting at dinner together and they're just both scrolling on their phones. And I'm not sure that they say one word to each other. And I would know because we like to eavesdrop on people and listen to their crazy stories if they're talking to each other. So it's not necessarily about what you do, more how you spend the time together.

SPEAKER_01 34:38

I one whole one wholeheartedly 100% agree. Goodness my gosh. Put some numbers in here, man. Let me go. Let me let me figure this out. Yeah, I agree. Uh I like to be adventurous sometimes. Sometimes I don't. I'm just like, do something we know is good, you know. Let's go get taco truck, chit-chat, come back home, have a couple brewskies.

SPEAKER_02 35:03

Brewski good night. All right, we should name our son Brewski.

SPEAKER_01 35:09

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 35:10

What a name!

SPEAKER_01 35:12

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 35:14

Okay, we'll call him Brew for sure.

SPEAKER_01 35:16

I'm absolutely with it now that I think about it.

Budgeting, Debt, and Lifestyle Choices

SPEAKER_02 35:18

Brewski, why not?

SPEAKER_01 35:19

Yeah, we can have a white Drewski.

SPEAKER_02 35:21

We gotta go get I'm with it. Let's go pick up Brewski. Let's go, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:26

Where are you going? Get my Brewski. Whoa.

SPEAKER_02 35:30

It's 9 a.m.

SPEAKER_01 35:32

What are you doing? I'm just driving my brewski around. What's the key to um drinking and driving? Um, don't drink water beforehand because it's one of my one of my favorite jokes in the world.

SPEAKER_02 35:49

Literally, that is not that's not serious. It's leading up to this joke.

SPEAKER_01 35:53

When we go to restaurants, you order a drink. It's like, oh, what are you gonna drink? It's like I'll just have a McLean. They're like, would you like a water with that? I say, no, thanks. I gotta drive. Some people think it's funny, some people are like, okay, it's not that funny guy, but I think it's hilarious.

SPEAKER_02 36:10

Is that a real question you have for me?

SPEAKER_01 36:12

Yeah, the key to drinking and driving, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:14

Okay, don't do it. You're about to make me say some cuss words on here. Don't just don't freaking do it.

SPEAKER_01 36:21

Oh, well, not where I was going with it.

SPEAKER_02 36:23

What's yours, Timothy?

SPEAKER_01 36:25

Well, you can't get good at it if you don't practice.

SPEAKER_02 36:28

I'm done.

SPEAKER_01 36:30

So get out there to the farm, pop in six or eight of them suckers and drive around.

SPEAKER_02 36:36

And do donuts in the parking lot while you tear down Halloween decorations and egging their house.

SPEAKER_01 36:41

This is my kind of weekend. You're such a degenerate. I got my weekend plans. I can't wait to get back from vacation. I know what our first date night's gonna be. It's gonna be right before Halloween, too.

unknown 36:57

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:58

Oh yeah. Imagine throwing some eggs at people's houses, tearing their uh Halloween costumes down while having a couple of beers. You can't really beat that. That's a fun date night.

SPEAKER_00 37:09

You're gonna get beat doing that.

SPEAKER_01 37:11

There you go, guys. I just gave you the best idea you've had in a long time. If you get caught, I'm not liable. You just that means you weren't very good at it and you needed way more practice.

SPEAKER_02 37:22

I hope you win some money on the cruise for your bail money.

SPEAKER_01 37:25

I don't need bail money, I've had lots of practice.

SPEAKER_02 37:28

Yeah, I mean, that's one way to not get caught.

SPEAKER_01 37:30

Just kidding. I don't drink and drive it.

SPEAKER_02 37:31

Practice makes he really doesn't drive.

SPEAKER_01 37:33

I don't, I do not drink and drive. I don't condone it one bit. Just want to throw that out there.

SPEAKER_02 37:37

Um we gotta be fun on the podcast. Not everything we say is.

SPEAKER_01 37:52

Um my next question would be another really good one. This is a good one. We need to go and buy a bunch of land. So this isn't a question, this is a suggestion. We need to go buy a bunch of land so I can have a rolling deer blind all the time.

SPEAKER_02 38:11

A rolling deer blind?

SPEAKER_01 38:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 38:13

What do you mean by rolling?

SPEAKER_01 38:14

An F-150.

SPEAKER_02 38:17

Oh, yeah. Well, that's what we have your uncle for and his land.

SPEAKER_01 38:24

You just drive around, you see one, you shoot it. That's the easiest kind.

SPEAKER_02 38:28

You don't have to be hot, cold.

SPEAKER_01 38:31

Nope.

SPEAKER_02 38:32

I mean, it is nice. I mean, we've done that a few times, and it's nice.

SPEAKER_01 38:36

I hope no game board and listens to this.

SPEAKER_02 38:40

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 38:41

It's on private land, I promise.

SPEAKER_02 38:43

I got friends in high places, Elon. He's coming for you.

SPEAKER_01 38:52

Oh man. Fun fact about deer hunting. I'm not gonna put that fun fact out there. Never mind. I'm keeping that one to myself.

SPEAKER_02 39:00

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 39:01

I'm not one of those out there. People are gonna think I'm an idiot.

Trips: Many Small or One Big?

SPEAKER_02 39:04

I have um, I I have one. What you should do when hunting is make sure that your brother-in-law is with you so that he can wake you up to shoot the deer. Because that's how I shot my deer, one and only one I've shot.

SPEAKER_01 39:18

Or just don't sleep.

SPEAKER_02 39:21

You almost fell asleep yesterday.

SPEAKER_01 39:24

Almost doesn't mean I did it though.

SPEAKER_02 39:26

I mean, yeah, it was also plenty of times.

SPEAKER_01 39:29

You went at what four times.

SPEAKER_02 39:32

This was like 5 a.m.

SPEAKER_01 39:34

Yeah, yours was morning, mine was afternoon.

SPEAKER_02 39:37

I was tired.

SPEAKER_01 39:38

Yep, because I shot one that afternoon.

SPEAKER_02 39:40

I tried. I tried to stay awake, but it's hours and hours.

SPEAKER_01 39:45

It was like 50, yeah, 5 30, probably. Maybe nah, it's probably like six when you got out there.

SPEAKER_02 39:50

Maybe six, because can we do it right?

SPEAKER_01 39:57

I miss that hunting. I missed that land so much.

SPEAKER_02 39:59

I mean, yeah, it was a good spot. But you have a really good spot this year, too.

SPEAKER_01 40:03

I do have a good spot. I mean, it's not that spot. I mean, that one was I mean, we had one, two, three, three, four, five, six stands plus the blind that you shot yours out of. I mean, that's pretty nice, you know, when you have the luxury of working with the wind, which I didn't do yesterday, which is exactly why I didn't get the buck to come in yesterday evening because that doe decided to blow me out that she could smell me. Ah, dude, I if I had a gun, I would have found her and shot her. I think it's M Dough or smart. Deer Deer can smell really good, and I should have sprayed better. Should have sprayed better. Should have sprayed, and honestly, I'm really low on corn out there. So uh they didn't smell that apple and they smelled me instead. But it's okay. I got more chances. I'm gonna get it, and I'm gonna stick an arrow through one of these suckers and we'll be good to go.

SPEAKER_02 40:53

What about apple body spray?

SPEAKER_01 40:56

I wouldn't spray any body spray. I mean, realistically, the best thing to do is just spray yourself a scent-free. And yeah, I'm be honest, I didn't do that yesterday. I could tell. Yeah, me too. Me too about 6 30 when our smelling out. I was like, this is a sick joke. I couldn't even see her. That's what's crazy. That's how I know she smelled me because she was on the other side of the rivet where my fetus, which means she was in the woods over there where they walked from and she just turned directions. I was like, this is a sick joke. I left two hours later, they were in there. I was like, go figure. And then, of course, this morning the big buck came in this morning at about 7 a.m. I was like, God, dang it.

SPEAKER_02 41:34

Oh, I definitely thought it was at like 4 30.

SPEAKER_01 41:36

It was like seven o'clock.

SPEAKER_02 41:37

That's what time I went to bed. Actually, it was 4 30.

SPEAKER_01 41:40

If I did not have a dentist appointment this morning, I would have been out there. But it would have been a rough day to kill one today. Yesterday I could have made it work. Today, I would have been like Dakota.

SPEAKER_02 41:49

Pushing it.

SPEAKER_01 41:50

Sorry, buddy, but I need you to take care of all of this.

SPEAKER_02 41:52

Here's yeah, literally here.

SPEAKER_01 41:54

Yeah. Sorry, dude. He um he's gonna take care of it, he's gonna go lay out corn all week for me.

Next Week’s Guest Tease & Closing

SPEAKER_02 42:00

So heck yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:01

Yeah, keep them coming in. I gave him the good old spread method. He was like, Oh yeah, you already know that's how I gotta do it too.

SPEAKER_02 42:08

I have my own spread method and it works really well.

SPEAKER_01 42:11

That's the one I'm talking about. Is it?

SPEAKER_02 42:13

Yeah, you just stand there and then um you start twirling while spreading it around. You just I mean, you spin like a crazy lady who's about to fall.

SPEAKER_01 42:22

Yeah, and then you put a little pile there in the middle. And uh the reason you spread it is because these does will, if you put it in a pile, it'll be gone in a day. They'll just sit there and eat it. But if it's spread, it takes them longer to move around and eat all the little pieces one by one or two by two. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 42:35

Yeah, when it's in a pile, it's like a all-you-can-eat buffet.

SPEAKER_01 42:38

They just go in and yeah, we're gonna do the spread method, we're gonna make it last a little longer.

SPEAKER_02 42:44

I did the pile on accident because I dropped it, but that's all right. It was a perfect one. It went well.

SPEAKER_01 42:49

That's exactly how much I needed in the pile. Another thing about a pile is when you get a pile of corn, you get nonstop raccoons eating them.

SPEAKER_02 42:56

I do like raccoons, they're cute.

SPEAKER_01 42:58

Yeah, until they get like 10 of them and then you have no corn left.

SPEAKER_02 43:02

Yeah. And then it's more corn.

SPEAKER_01 43:04

But I don't have I don't have a bad raccoon problem out. There's the crows.

SPEAKER_02 43:08

There's so many crows.

SPEAKER_01 43:10

Not yet. There's been a few of them, but last year our previous years.

SPEAKER_02 43:15

I mean, it's just like the only alerts we were getting.

SPEAKER_01 43:18

Oh man, one night I laid a bag of corn one week. Oh, I had to feeder, but uh put out some corn one evening and woke up the next morning to no corn, and the crows had ravaged them. My whole camera was almost black from just crows blowing around. I don't think you had a hard one. My goodness. My goodness.

SPEAKER_02 43:39

I have a question.

SPEAKER_01 43:40

Spit it out.

SPEAKER_02 43:43

I spit it out.

SPEAKER_01 43:44

Nice.

SPEAKER_02 43:46

Who apologizes first after an argument? Me. Easy answer.

SPEAKER_01 43:50

Me.

SPEAKER_02 43:50

Me.

SPEAKER_01 43:51

No, not you. It's me. It is not you.

SPEAKER_02 43:53

Well, I mean, I apologize after you do.

SPEAKER_01 43:56

That's not first in an argument. It's me. No, you are stubborn as it gets. It is not you.

SPEAKER_02 44:05

Sometimes. I can't really name one, but I have.

SPEAKER_01 44:11

I'm sure you have. I'm sure there's a couple of times you have. Because sometimes I'm stubborn because I'm like the uncorrect.

SPEAKER_02 44:17

But you know, like if you apologize, then I'll go ahead and apologize and we can get it done with.

SPEAKER_01 44:23

Well, the deeper thing, uh it goes way deeper for me, and I'll just break into it. I I believe as a male in a relationship, you should be the first. You should have the initiative to swallow your pride and do it. That's just how I feel. Other people don't feel the way, that's fine. Feel how you want to feel. If you think you're right and you just don't want to apologize, sure, but then you're just gonna sit there and you guys are gonna be and you in a dilemma for until you do it.

SPEAKER_02 44:44

I think it also like because you don't have to admit like your opinion was wrong when you apologize, you can apologize around it.

SPEAKER_00 44:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:53

Um, so you're still like staying like truthful and communicative towards each other. You can say, you know, I'm sorry that you have to be genuine, don't be sarcastic. Um, like I'm sorry that I, you know, portrayed it this way or said it in a certain tone. Um just starting off with that apologize apology, it's gonna, you know, make the situation uh more resolved.

SPEAKER_01 45:16

It's so hard for me to do, not because of pride, but because I am the most non-serious person. Uh dude.

SPEAKER_02 45:23

He really is.

SPEAKER_01 45:25

There'll be times it's nice. And not even real mad. She's just like annoyed at the end. Yeah, and it's never even anything serious. She rarely has like a time where she's like really actually mad. And I am just a clown, and I can't, I can't. I I'll pick on her about it sometimes. Pick on her so much it's hilarious. That she's like, stop it. You're making me laugh. I'm supposed to be salty. I'm like, we'll do that in bed. I ain't good at it. I'm not good at serious conversations. There's so many people that can verify that.

SPEAKER_02 45:55

Well, you are when we need to.

SPEAKER_01 45:57

When I need to be, yeah, yeah, for sure. I can get in that mode. It just takes a lot. It takes a lot.

SPEAKER_02 46:02

I mean, it works for us because we still talk about it, just loosens it, you know. We still talk about what we need to, but we got to laugh and be in a little bit of a better mood before we go into it.

SPEAKER_01 46:14

One time before I adventured off into my own uh barbershop work, I was working at an old shop and uh the guy who I worked with, he was like, he brought me into the back room and was like, hey man, you know, I just want to be serious with you for a minute. You know, he was telling me thank you and being real nice and stuff. And dude, I could not, I could not help myself. I was like, man, I I appreciate it, but dude, I I threw a joke immediately out there. And he was like, I'm trying to have a serious moment with you, like being genuine. He's like, You are such a clown. I was like, Oh, dude, so are you. Oh my gosh. Because the moment that I said it, it was it was right back at me. He's like, All right, all right, you know, enough with the whole serious stuff, we can move on. I was like, I can't. One time we were having a serious conversation about a different scenario that didn't involve either of us, and I was just like, dude, I can't do this.

unknown 47:03

I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01 47:05

My favorite was when he was making the video where he was nominated for best barber of the year. Which he was nominated, he was making a video, dude. I was clowning the whole time. He was trying to be so serious in the video. Oh man, it was hilarious. Funny thing is, is he got about you, sucker.

SPEAKER_02 47:23

If you ain't first, you're last.

SPEAKER_01 47:25

I got second the next year.

SPEAKER_02 47:27

Well, if you ain't first, you're last.

SPEAKER_01 47:30

I remember when they invited me to, they're like, hey, we're having the thing. If you know you want to see if you won. I was like, I didn't. I know I didn't because I didn't ask people to vote for me. I posted one post said vote for me if you want to. I really do not care. It's not real, it's not legitimate. It's a popularity contest. We got voted one time for best barber shop at all, so we got second. I was like, dude, I'll run it up with the team that got first. Barber for barber, let's do it. I was in a real competitive mood that day. I'm not like that. I really I'm not like that at all when it comes to barbers. I want us all to eat. Let's all do great. All of them. I don't want to compete. It's not me. But that day I was because we deserve first. But it is what it is. It is what it is. Is it worth buying nice things? This is not the question.

SPEAKER_02 48:14

I'm like, that's it. What do you mean?

SPEAKER_01 48:15

This is absolutely can we go next? Yeah, this is not the question I had. That wasn't the question. It had more to it, but I needed to skip that one. Would you rather live in a small house with everything paid off for your dream house with a big mortgage?

SPEAKER_02 48:29

Everything paid off. Yeah, dude, yeah, give me the I want us to be able to go do things. What's the point of having a I mean, we've had this conversation plenty of times because like we want to get ahead of ourselves sometimes when we see, you know, super nice things or big homes. Like, I don't want to be in debt so much where we literally have to just be at the house all the time because you cannot afford to go do anything.

SPEAKER_01 48:54

I used to be like that. It was like, hey, truck is 50 grand. That's fine. I'll make the payments.

SPEAKER_02 49:01

But we can't drive nowhere.

SPEAKER_01 49:02

Yeah, yeah. I ain't got gas money, ain't got no gas.

SPEAKER_02 49:06

That's when we were just a couple kids in school. Yeah, I mean, we had a barely making rent.

SPEAKER_01 49:11

Yeah, we had a even when we moved to our Claremore house, you know, really nice house. And we got it still on that house, I'll be honest.

SPEAKER_00 49:17

Oh, yeah. That was yeah, killer deal.

SPEAKER_01 49:19

But then I bought that GMC and we had your trailblazer. I was like, hey, we we uh swinging over our head a little bit here. Uh I need to see.

SPEAKER_02 49:28

Well, because then it just seems like you're just working to be at home or to have a car, and it's like, what's the point in that?

SPEAKER_01 49:36

Yeah, now we pay we drive a freaking paid-off Toyota Rav.

SPEAKER_02 49:40

Yeah, I mean, we do not drive fancy stuff.

SPEAKER_01 49:42

Nope. Although I do sometimes wouldn't mind getting you a new trailblazer.

SPEAKER_02 49:49

Yeah, we'll get there.

SPEAKER_01 49:50

Wouldn't mind it. I know, but then like I start thinking about$80 car payment. No,$500.

SPEAKER_02 49:59

I really like how our bank account looks.

SPEAKER_00 50:01

Like I don't worth it to me.

SPEAKER_02 50:04

It's like whenever we were spending a lot of money without having a lot of money, it's almost like I didn't mind um like continuing to add on to that. But now that I mean we barely have anything to pay and more money, I've noticed I'm like more stingy about it. I'm like, I don't want, you know, to buy this car or you know, get that thing because I enjoy having, you know, money there. We still do things, but I'm just I'm less likely to make dumb purchases. We spend our money now that we actually have money.

SPEAKER_01 50:38

We spend our money more on experiences now than we do materialistic things. And like you said, we still buy what we want and when we want it, but it's less than it's it's not like a big, big box of buying, you know. It's it's more still we're gonna buy this, and we're gonna buy this, and we're gonna buy this, you know, and then and we'll be done. But I like that. I'm with it.

SPEAKER_02 50:59

Yeah, like that one time we got these. What that one time we got these.

SPEAKER_00 51:05

Microphones, these nuts. I knew what you were going. That's come on.

SPEAKER_02 51:09

You were supposed to. I thought I was gonna have you lost to where you were gonna fall for it.

SPEAKER_01 51:13

I thought you said these first off, and I thought you meant these microphones. Oh, yeah, we did just buy these microphones. We have four of them now, so when we have guests in a talk, kind of could wrap you up in a joke.

SPEAKER_02 51:23

Yeah, well, that doesn't usually work out for me when it comes to you.

SPEAKER_01 51:28

Better luck next.

SPEAKER_02 51:29

But I I get people at work all the time with dumb stuff.

SPEAKER_01 51:32

I get you all the time.

SPEAKER_02 51:33

I'm like, who cares?

SPEAKER_01 51:34

Yeah, you get me with that one. You do get me with that one.

SPEAKER_02 51:37

When did I ask?

SPEAKER_01 51:39

That one not as much, but the who is the one you get me the most when I'll be telling us you're like, who cares? And I'm like, oh god dang it, god dang it. All right, well, I'm done with my story.

SPEAKER_02 51:48

I'll do that with serious conversations too. He'll be telling me like a kind of a tragic story. It's just perfect timing where I'm like, oh man, who?

SPEAKER_01 51:59

And the last question I got for us this afternoon on this beautiful October 2nd anniversary. Okay. Would you rather make multiple small cheap trips a year that are not luxurious or take one big luxurious trip a year?

SPEAKER_02 52:15

I mean, I'm gonna answer this quick because I mean, I don't really care. I mean, it sounds like a dumb answer, but it just depends. What's our goal of where we want to go? Um, I feel like we can take like lately we take a lot of small trips, but if we want to plan a big trip, then like we will plan next year. We're only gonna do this one trip because it's big and luxurious. I mean, I think you can do both.

SPEAKER_01 52:41

Yeah, we've been talking we've been that's literally the conversation we've had the last few months now is like, hey, I know we have like plans for a few next year here and there, but if we want to take the really big one, we shouldn't take one of these other ones if we want to take the really big one.

SPEAKER_02 52:55

Let's do it anyways.

SPEAKER_01 52:57

Yeah, yeah. Uh that's always my thought process. And then I remember the talk we literally just had seven seconds ago about our bank account.

SPEAKER_02 53:05

Well, it's easier when it's not going towards a car payment.

SPEAKER_01 53:08

Yeah, yeah, that's true. It's easier when you can plan it. If you're doing a big luxurious trip, you can plan it a couple years in advance or a year in advance. It's a lot easier. It is it is a lot easier. That's the way to do it. That's why I like cruises. Yeah, you can experience other places, they're relatively inexpensive for what they are, anyways.

SPEAKER_02 53:24

Honestly.

SPEAKER_01 53:25

But you can plan them a year in advance and pay on them for eight months.

SPEAKER_02 53:28

Well, you can do two years in advance, you know. I think that's probably I feel like two years is probably as far out as you can go.

SPEAKER_01 53:35

Yeah, we don't usually do it that long, maybe a year and a half.

SPEAKER_02 53:37

I think that's what we did for our Alaskan. It was like two years in advance.

SPEAKER_01 53:41

Yeah, well, we did that one because we got a suite.

SPEAKER_02 53:44

Yeah, it was a good Black Friday sale. I was just talking about that at work.

SPEAKER_01 53:48

Yeah. Well, that's all the questions I had today. And if you don't have any, we can wrap this baby up on this anniversary because we have got stuff to do, a few things to do. Like we are done packing, maybe.

SPEAKER_02 54:04

I think yeah, it's just like chargers and stuff now.

SPEAKER_01 54:07

We can get to it, get this thing on the road.

SPEAKER_02 54:10

And did you pack your shampoo, conditioner, body wash?

SPEAKER_01 54:13

Yes, I did.

SPEAKER_02 54:13

You did?

SPEAKER_01 54:14

I sure as heck did.

SPEAKER_02 54:15

When?

SPEAKER_01 54:16

Yeah, this morning.

SPEAKER_02 54:17

Okay. I was like, I saw it out last night. I laid it out for you.

SPEAKER_01 54:20

I did it this morning.

SPEAKER_02 54:22

Did you put new stuff in it or use the old stuff in it? Okay.

SPEAKER_01 54:27

Yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_02 54:29

I'm proud of you.

SPEAKER_01 54:30

Yeah. Toothbrush and all. I'm on top of it.

SPEAKER_02 54:33

I know. You've really been on top of it.

SPEAKER_01 54:35

I even laid your socks out.

SPEAKER_02 54:37

Yeah, I put most of them back because they weren't what I needed, but it's okay.

SPEAKER_01 54:42

I know it's because the socks that you needed is the ones that I took.

SPEAKER_02 54:45

And I needed some fuzzy socks.

SPEAKER_01 54:47

Oh, yeah, I didn't pack those, but I can't.

SPEAKER_02 54:49

And the like no-show socks for my vans.

SPEAKER_01 54:52

Got my vans on, but they look like sneakers. Got my vans on, but they look like sneakers. All right. We won't be getting into the rat music today.

SPEAKER_02 55:09

That we have Shelby and Garrett on.

SPEAKER_01 55:11

It's electric. It's hilarious.

SPEAKER_02 55:13

I just love them so much.

SPEAKER_01 55:14

You have to. I mean, have to listen to it. It's seriously. Hilarious. Freaking great. It's so fun.

SPEAKER_02 55:21

And they just got back from a trip. You guys can listen to know where from and how it went. Um, yeah, so tune in next week. We're gonna be on the cruise. It's gonna automatically release for you guys and submit questions, or my friend Elon Musk, is gonna come for y'all.

SPEAKER_01 55:38

And I'm I'm telling you, I'm gonna hit him up on Facebook. That podcast is gonna be so easy to listen to. We only did a little over an hour and it we flew by. Didn't even get to touch a lot of the stuff that we felt like we could. I mean, it's a good one. It's a good one. I would definitely recommend it. I recommend all of them, but I'd recommend that one because we that's our second guess.

SPEAKER_02 56:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 56:03

So yeah.

SPEAKER_02 56:04

And if you guys want to get on, let us know.

SPEAKER_01 56:07

Hey, we'll make it happen.

SPEAKER_02 56:08

Oh, you gotta submit a question first.

SPEAKER_01 56:09

Yeah, if you don't submit a question, I have to get on.

SPEAKER_02 56:11

How about that's our prerequisite?

SPEAKER_01 56:12

No. What? Until we see you guys in two weeks, back with our solo. We out. We out.