From Seat to Street

Understanding Salvation's Promise of Relationship (Jeremiah 33:1-3)

First Baptist Church of Fort Smith Season 8 Episode 6

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Join Trey Overton, Abigail Woodring, and Luis Chinos as they reflect on Greg Addison's Sunday sermon, continuing the Bible recap series. The church started reading the Bible chronologically together, and this sermon continued the series that dives deeper into the readings. During this episode, Trey, Abigail, and Luis discussed how the Lord desires a relationship with us. Through his work on the cross, believers have a direct connection with Him, and He desires us to seek His voice through that relationship. Many believers struggle to seek his active voice or maybe don't spend time listening for it. He desires to speak into your life and change it forever. Join in and reflect with us as we discuss the sermon from First Baptist Church in Fort Smith, AR. 

Mavric Herrera - mherrera@fsfbc.org

Trey Overton - toverton@fsfbc.org

SPEAKER_00

Psalm 119.11 says that Scripture is a lamp for our feet and a light for our path. That means God gave us his word to guide and equip us in practical ways as we walk through our everyday lives. Join us now for this episode of From State to Street as our FBC staff and church members talk about how this week's Sunday morning message comes alive as we walk through the streets and moments of everyday life.

SPEAKER_01

Hey everyone, thanks for joining us. My name is Trey Overton and I'm your host today. And I do not have Maverick Herrera here this week. He is down sick, um, so he is still in recovery. Seems like we had some good news on it, so it seems like he's getting better, but uh, we just ask that you keep him in your prayers just to have a speedy recovery and um that he's able to get back and back at it um soon. So I just ask for your prayers. Today we have two guests with us. Um since Mavic's not here, Miss Abigail is stepping in his place. We got Abigail Abigail Wittering here. Say, What's up?

SPEAKER_03

What's up?

SPEAKER_01

Okay, so Abigail's been on here a couple times. So uh many of y'all that are uh faithful listeners, um, well, kudos to you, first of all. Um, but second of all, you've probably heard Abigail on here. She works for our youth here, one of our student ministers um down in um well, I guess I call it the base, whatever um student activities building on Wednesday nights. But um, anyways, she's one of our student ministers here and uh does a does a lot of good stuff there. Um you've probably seen her around. If you've seen youth, you know, high school age, middle school age, you've seen her probably. Um and then we got a new guest here, and this is Mr. Chinos himself, Luis Chinos. Say what's up.

SPEAKER_02

Yo, yo.

SPEAKER_01

All right, so he Luis, you've probably not met because he is like brand new, fresh off the boat, like has not uh been working with First Baptist very long. So um Luis is interning with us with the youth, and he's working alongside Abigail down there and is already doing some good things. Y'all were out there at the crosswalk yesterday handing out some popsicles. That I mean, you have quite a few kids over there. How does that like do you have like pretty good turnout of for that? Like, you know, do you have a lot of kids that go through there?

SPEAKER_03

Uh a lot of kids come through. We hand them invites so they can hand it to their parent and say, hey, they want me to go to this place at this time. And it's yeah. Um, not just some random person giving them popsicles after school. It's a little less random.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, a little more intentionality to it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. It's great that they're right across the street. We can point and say, that's the building you go to, that's the door you go in, you'll see me. Uh and it's a great chance to reconnect with some students that have been in the past, uh, that maybe fell off during the summer uh that we haven't seen in a while. So got to reconnect with some some kids that we haven't seen in a bit. It was a blast.

SPEAKER_01

Are you still looking for leaders? Like, are you looking for any volunteers down there for people that, you know, uh maybe thinking about working with some kids, can making those connections? Um Always.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. Always will take more leaders. Um we have leaders right now, some adults who are like, I'll just be a body. I'll be an adult in the room, but I don't want to teach. I don't want to like lead a group, but I will join in and be there. Uh and kids need leaders like that. We need leaders who want to teach and want to uh we have leaders, we need leaders to play games and we need leaders to hang out, and we need leaders to be spiritual brothers and sisters and moms and dads and grandmas and grandpas for kids. They need all of it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, absolutely. And that and that's a good point because um I just remember when I was growing up in youth, um, you know, I I was kind of missing a lot of that um male figure you know deal in my life. Um and some of the the that that was kind of what molded me with some of those um it was just the volunteers, some guys that were there that were feeding into my life. You know, we we kind of had a little small disciple actually we had a discipleship program, and my disciple was in I don't know if y'all two know politics at all, but mine was Bruce Westerman, which is our now congressman, but at the time he was just engineer Westerman. But anyways, so he was my uh he was my disciple. So I'd go over to his house, have dinner with him and his family and stuff like once a week. It was a pretty cool deal. Um, but anyways, short story is like, you know, the that that male role model in my life growing up uh was huge. And it's just and it's just about the relationship. So if you're somebody who thought who's thinking about, you know, just kind of stretching your your walk and your faith and and what you do, um, that's something to think about is to go down there and work with these kids. And and sometimes it's just being a body in a room, just having eyes on kids, just keeping people safe. And um, sometimes it's actually you know building relationships and you know, being being there for for kids who maybe don't have anybody there, or just being a be being being able to show them what the walk looks like and that sort of thing. So, or answer questions. I mean, growing up, you know, a lot of times I had a I had a lot of questions that you know I didn't know who to go to for answers, um, and be that person that can give answers that are Christ-like and going to point to scripture and that sort of thing. So um, if that's something that you've thought about at all, I encourage you to just pray about it. Um, and then of course, you know, go down to let Abigail or Chinos know that you'd like to step in there. All right, so to get on to the meat and potatoes of this, all right. So this past Sunday, Greg used Jeremiah 33 to make a serious point about the promises of God. Um and he provided insight on how we should study these promises and gave some application to this specific promise that God promise that God gave Jeremiah in this passage. Um, but he started by um providing some insight on how we should um interpret various promises of God, not just this one, but this would be any promise um throughout scripture that God had had given, right? And what what are your thoughts? Do you think that like, you know, looking at the promises like there again going through Old Testament, New Testament, doesn't matter. Like we see various promises of God. Um, do you think that they are misinterpreted um very often?

SPEAKER_03

Uh yeah, it's easy to pull verses out of context and uh forget um about like for example in the passage that we were that Greg preached on, God's talking to Jeremiah. This is a promise to Jeremiah, but then there are concepts of that that we can apply to our own lives, right? And so it's important to have the context, know what's going on in the story, in when it was said, when it was written, and then what uh parts of that do we apply to our own life? What matters for us?

SPEAKER_02

I think a lot of times um just in my college experience, a lot of younger people in their faith or college students hold on to the promises of maybe love and just feeling comfortable too often. Uh I would say God promises a lot of suffering as a Christian, as a believer, even as a non-believer. And so I think there are a lot of interpretations that maybe are not correct all the time.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. That's a good point. Like so, like you're saying we might we might hold on to some promises versus not really paying attention to others. Um that's a good point. Uh, I think we see that a lot. I also think that um, and that's how I mean the reality is is that's how the prosperity gospel is comes to comes to be, right? Sure. I mean, you take a promise that's given to somebody specifically and then you take it out of context and you apply it to yourself, right? Um or you take a promise that's given in scripture and don't put it in context of the whole Bible or in context of God's other promises. Um there's a lot to it, right? And and for those that weren't there on Sunday, um, I just kind of want to give you a little bit of background to this, but but uh when when Greg was talking about how understanding he he understanding these promises, he gave um some specific steps, and I think that are very helpful. So, like first off, whom was it written to? Um who was written written to? Um is it specific promise or is it a general application? Because we see both throughout scripture. God will make a general promise to to all mankind or to the Israelites, um, and then there's some that specifically to one person or to just the Israelites or or whatever. Um, and or are there conditions, you know, if you do this, then this will happen, right? Um and then how does it generally apply to us? So in this specific one that that we are looking at for Jeremiah, God is is you know, God is making a promise with Jeremiah specifically, right? This one is just to Jeremiah, right? He's just talking to him. But that doesn't mean that there's not an application for us today. Um, and that's where, you know, there again, we could misinterpret this promise and make it for all humanity, but that's not the case. But we can still look at scripture and see where this promise applies to us. And that's what Greg did by pulling in Ephesians, pulling in Colossians, and pointing to how uh the love of Christ, how he desires to be in relationship with us, he works through us actively through the Holy Spirit and all of those things, right? Um and then in this specific promise that the Lord makes with Jeremiah, um, as it makes application for us today, uh the one thing that that I think we really have to pay attention to is how God desires a relationship with us, how he desires to be a part of our lives, how he desires us to seek him. I mean, if we can look at, you know, reading the Bible recap all throughout scripture, that's one thing we can pick up is that God wants us to seek him. Nobody else, right? He's a jealous God. He wants our attention, he wants us to seek him. Um, but Greg made a good point on this and he in this promise is that God desires us to call to him, right? To not just seek him, but ask him and ask him to speak, right? And um what do you think? I I think a lot of people are um there's things that hold them back from, you know, we ask God little things. You know, I'll ask God to be with me today and give me peace. I'll ask God to um guide, you know, guide me in my maybe in my conversations. I might ask him to um give me wisdom on certain things, um, but at the end of the day, most of it's little things, right? We don't really go to him ask for big things, or we don't ask him to speak. You know, why why do you th what do you think holds people back from asking that?

SPEAKER_03

Because if you ask God to speak to you, he's gonna speak to you and he's gonna call you out, and it can be uncomfortable. Yeah. Um it can be he's gonna challenge you, uh, and it's good, but sometimes it's it's difficult, it's uncomfortable. And so I think that's uh it's intimidating. That's not like a fun feeling to feel convicted about anything or to be challenged, or uh maybe God's gonna call you to do something that you don't really want to do, but you need to do it because he's telling you to, uh, and he has a plan. Uh yeah, I think that stops people from calling on him.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I mean, what do you think what what do you think like if for those people who you know are afraid of the answer, right? So that's kind of what you're pointing to. Yeah. What what do you what would you say to those people who are afraid of the answer? What's your encouragement there?

SPEAKER_03

God knows more than you. Thankfully. Thankfully, and that's a good thing. Yeah. Uh he has a plan, he knows what is going to be best for your life. Um and even if you don't see what he's doing, he's got a plan. And he's we can trust him. Um and when we do, he can do great big things um that we can't even imagine. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I think I think when you say we can trust him is a big reason too. I think when we don't ask is a sign of us not trusting that God is going to move.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Well, and and I think um I think we we we don't seek him and ask him to speak because it's like your point there, Chinos. It's like maybe I haven't experienced God's voice in my life that often. You know, if I haven't experienced it that often, then that's not something I'm gonna to actively ask for. Um if if I don't know it's possible, like for God to speak into my life, then I'm not gonna ask for it, you know, if I don't believe that, you know, and and there's aspects, and this is just um from experience, you know, growing up, you know, I I came to know Christ at a I would say young age. I was like 13, I think, when I when I came to know Christ. So, you know, the journey growing into that and where I am today, and there's a long time where I there was a aspects of aspects of God that I fully believed and had faith in, but there's other aspects that I didn't experience and didn't know, and so I didn't trust in, right? Um, and that's just a reality. Like I'm not gonna sugarcoat it, but like, you know, I I believed that I believed that he could heal. I believed that he could um I believed that he could guide me. The Holy Spirit would guide me in conversations or whatever, making decisions. I believed that um I had faith that um that just various things that he could do, but speaking to me was one that you know I never experienced. And so it took me a long time to start asking for that. Because I didn't even know I could. You know, I didn't know I didn't have that, didn't have that experience. Um, and so I think a lot of people would just have not experienced God speaking to them. Um, and that's just a reality of it. And um it's just like anything else. Um, the first time you do it, you know, I've I built a shop at my house a little while back. I had I've kind of built parts, you know, I'm not a construction guy, but I thought I'm gonna save some money, I'm gonna build it myself. I had no confidence that I could do it well, but I knew it was mine, so it wasn't like I had to worry about falling in on somebody else, right? It would just fall in on me. Um but I had no serious faith that I because I'd never done it, right? I stepped out in faith and I did it and I felt and it's great, it turned out great, and and all that. Um but I said that to say now I have confidence that if I need to do it again, I could do it, right? Because I stepped out and do it. And I think that's that's what a lot of people today, and if you're listening now, if you're somebody who hasn't asked God to speak into your life, I encourage you to step out in faith and do it. You may have never heard God speak into your life. And I'm not talking about an audible voice, that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about, you know, the Lord actively, and that's where those scriptures that um and that Greg used in Ephesians and Colossians, that's a lot of what it's talking about, you know, being led by the Spirit is this Holy Spirit speaking to your lives. Whether it's conviction, kind of to your point, Abigail, um, just like, yeah, sometimes we gotta be, and I I need somebody to slap me behind the head. Sometimes the Holy Spirit's gonna do that, right? Um, but sometimes it's it's encouragement. Um, and and I know I can't be the only one that have days where I need encouragement, right? I mean, I were, you know, Chinos, you're in school, like where you're having a hard time and you need some encouragement, and you're you know, why not ask the Lord God Almighty, the creator of the universe? And that's like in Jeremiah, where where Greg used this passage, that's where he starts. I am God, Yahweh, creator of the universe. Why not go to him and ask for encouragement to speak into your life? I mean, and at this point, if you've never experienced it, start seeking it because you can. He will, he promised that, you know. Um, and there again, we looking at the speci specific problem with Jeremiah, but um there's more to that.

SPEAKER_03

Can I add something?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. So something that also I think causes people to struggle with calling upon the Lord is when they feel like they've been asking him for answers, they've been asking him to speak into their life and they're not hearing it. Yeah. And so sometimes we're not listening to the right things. Yeah. Sometimes we're not we'll ask him to speak, but then we don't stop and st listen for his voice and look for his voice and look for the different ways that he speaks into our life. Uh and then when you're not hearing those things, or maybe he's making small moves with you and not big moves, and you get discouraged because it feels like he's not there. Yeah. But he is. He is. We're just not listening right. Yeah. Uh and like you said, it's not like an audible voice that we're listening for. Sometimes I think students listen to that. Yeah. They're like, God's going to speak with actual words into my brain and I'm going to hear them with my ears. It's like, probably not. Probably not.

SPEAKER_02

I I think that's a test of true faith because it's easy when you hear God when God's near to be a Christian. But when God is not close to you, when you don't feel his presence, what are you doing?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I agree. Yeah, I mean, and and um and a lot of times that's when the Lord is wanting you to seek him even further. You know, like he's he's wanting you to listen. Um, have you ever had a speaker you're in a room, and you know, some of the best speakers in the world are the ones that are saying less words because they use moments of silence to draw you in, right? The guy's saying something that's you know profound and then he just pauses. And then he comes forward like and that pause caused everybody to lean in and try to figure out what his next words are, right? And I think a lot of times that's like in our relationship with God, sometimes there's a pause, but his intention is for us to lean in and figure out what his next words are. And so that's a good point, too. And then in that faith, like as soon as you hear the as soon as the pause happens, that's not time for us to back out and be like, oh well, because at the end of the day, that's what the Israelites did, right? It's true. Yep, you know, that's every time that there was a pause, they were like, ah, well, we're gonna go in this worship ball or whatever. And um, but um, but yeah, it's it's that's kind of crazy. Um but to your point, yeah, I think I think a lot of people um aren't spending time listening. And um it's I I also think this whenever and and this is this is truth from the word of Trey, not from the word of God. So let's just like so this is truth from the word of Trey. I think we ask for things, we ask for guidance, we ask for the Lord to speak in our lives, and he answers us. Um, and we know the answer to something, we just don't know how to deal with that answer. Um, I have friends who will come to me and um, you know, you know, they're going through something and um they're trying to get some guidance, you know, they're trying to, yeah, man, I've got this such and such going on. Um and I really just don't know what to do. I don't know if I should go this direction and do this. I don't know if I should go this direction and do this. And I said, um, I think you know the answer. I think you've been praying about it, you know the answer. You just know that the answer that you have is a hard one. You know, I think we struggle with, all right, well, I've whatever it is, I've got to dive deep into, right? Um, I think a lot of times that's the case too. Like we're we're struggling with the answer, um, and we don't want to deal with it.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I dealt with that with my call to ministry for a long time. You know, like it's it's a deal. You know, you've gotta, and there's some barriers that you've got to go jump over, and there's things you gotta do, and and and it's not just jobs, it's careers, it's spouses, it's whatever. Um a lot of times requires humbling yourself, but we deal with we have to we struggle with the answer. Do you think so you know we we talked about people struggling to listen? Um do you think people struggle to listen or do they struggle on calling upon his name more?

SPEAKER_03

I think it starts with calling upon the Lord. I think that is that's something that's tough. That's something that maybe like young Christians might not even think about. Uh like you said at the beginning, uh like we ask God for stuff. We ask God for give me peace today, give me wisdom, help me out. Um but we don't always call upon him to speak into our lives or to show us something, to reveal something to us. Um I think sometimes we just listen, we look for a response, but we're not asking for one, we're not calling upon him. Um so I think I would say more people struggle with calling upon the Lord and listening. Listening, I guess, just comes along with that.

SPEAKER_01

Right.

SPEAKER_03

What do you think, Luis?

SPEAKER_02

I think that's a great point of view. Um it's a hard question. Well, on Sunday, Greg did a great job, by the way. I I know he doesn't like us saying that, so I wanted to throw that in there. He did an amazing job. Um I think when he was talking about what the action, right, and then the waiting and then the expecting. Uh in my life, I've experienced uh uh struggle with the waiting because I often pray, I often ask God th of I often ask God to do things and then I want them right then and there. And I I expect instant gratification as a lot of us often do now. And so I I don't wait. Like I I know what's something that hit me really hard was like, when was the last time I got on my knees and prayed? When was the last time I prayed for 30 minutes? Mm-hmm. When was the last time I prayed for an hour? And those things don't help you go to heaven more, but those are ways that you can grow closer to God. And so for me, I know a lot of times I I've I like to think that I have a lot of patience, but when I put it to work with my relationship. With God, it really shows how much patience I have.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Do you think that um just kind of go right along with that, do you think that a lot of it is uh Christians checking a box?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I I would say when you're seasoned in your faith that we often just check a box.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I mean that's you know, I know that it makes me feel better better to get up and pray. You know, whether whether I'm actually seeking something or asking God to speak into my life, but getting up to and talking to him, it makes me feel better. And in aspect, I'm checking a box off. That's true. You know, like I'm not actually asking those things. It really made me feel better. You know? And um, and and so I'm getting something out of that, right? And I think um, in a way, I'm checking off a box there. And I think that's the same thing with like I know I need to be praying. Greg talks about praying over our love list. Am I really praying over my love list to actively put my mindset there to share the gospel with them? Or am I checking a box? You know. Um I think I think the lack of listening comes from us checking a box. We get busy. I say I get up in the morning and I, you know, I pray, I pray on the way to work or whatever it is. And if I'm not listening to me, that's because I'm checking a box off. I've prayed, I've asked God to do this, I've asked God to speak in my life, whatever it is, and then I move on to the next thing. I check the box off. I think I think we can and you could really make that any aspect of our walks, you know, that's going to church, that's um doing Bible study, it's doing whatever. We can always make it about checking our box, but at the end of the day Christ came and he died on the cross, rose again, and because he did all of that, the veil is torn. The veil is torn. Technically there's no veil anymore. There's we have a relationship with the Lord that does not require us to go and these priests behind a curtain and do all those things. No, like I just can come to him now and he leads me, he walks with me with his spirit. And to your point earlier about speaking audibly, that happens too. That's true. Yeah. I mean, like, if you think when we say I'm not saying audibly, well, he does do that too. Like and and I and I just kind of use an example, and I I tell people this, you know, when people ask about like, have I ever heard the Lord talk to me? I I love to tell this testimony, and that's how because that's how I went back to school and got my master's, you know. You know, I graduated with my MDiv uh from Liberty in last December. And I always said I hate school, I'm never going back. I barely graduated with my bachelor's, like not grade-wise, just like sticking with it. I mean, like I had decent grades, but I did not like school at all. And I always said God's gonna have to like come talk to me audibly to make me go back. And sure enough, I'm worship, you know, we're we're at church and we're in a worship service, you know, and all that stuff. And and I and I literally in a moment it was like um it's like you're you know somebody and you have a relationship with somebody, let's say it's your parent, you know, and um like my mom looks at me and I said something and she looks at me, and I know without her having to say anything what she's thinking, right? Like you know the words that are that's going through her head because you have that relationship with her, right? And and so in that moment it was like that, it was like there wasn't this in my ears audible Trey, you need to go back to school, but it was like my mom was you know looking at me and I knew the words that were in her brain right then that moment without even having to say anything. Um so I think you know, when we talk about audible, I think that's a lot of it's like the Lord's gonna speak to you, and when he does, it's evident. Like true with without a shadow of a doubt, in that moment, whenever that happened, I was like, there's like that's exactly what happened in that moment. Like there's no other explanation. The Lord spoke to me and told me to do this, and he's and then of course the evidence and the fruit that came from that me following those next steps obviously proved that. But not only that, um I just use that as a point, like the Lord will speak to you. Right. And it's and it's life altering when he does. And so um I just encourage those who are listening, just ask for it. Ask for it. Um like I said, it's it's a life-altering experience. Um, and and and and listen for it. Uh it's like I said, don't just check a box off. Ask him to change your life. Because he changed the life, your life, the moment that you decided to follow him. And he's ready to change it again. That's true. You know, um, and so I encourage you in that. Um just a couple quick things. We've got um promotion Sunday coming up. Uh that's next, this coming Sunday, right? Yes. This coming, this coming Sunday, the 16th, we've got promotion Sunday. So if you are a like my son and you are uh going into fifth grade, um, then you will be moving up into the fifth grade class. If you're going into sixth grade, though, guess what? You get to join us student ministry. You are going into the youth. So um, and then I don't know what the cutoff is going to Elizabeth. Is it kindergarten something, maybe?

SPEAKER_03

First grade.

SPEAKER_01

First grade. I think. Yeah. First grade. Yeah. So um, anyways, so promotion Sundays is coming Sunday. Um, so we'll be moving up uh some some kids, and we've got big groups going into each area, so that's pretty cool. You know, we've got I think like each group is sending over 20 kids. Yes. So that's pretty, pretty incredible. Um, and so I just just points to a lot of good things going on. We got a baptism out of Chaffee. Um what? So um that'll be good. Once again, just continue to pray for Maverick for um speedy recovery and that he gets better.

SPEAKER_03

And then Yeah, I wana kickoff and youth kickoff and preschool kickoff for Wednesday nights are the 19th.

SPEAKER_01

The 19th.

SPEAKER_03

So we promote up to the next grade this Sunday, and then that following Wednesday is the first night of our school year Wednesday night programming.

SPEAKER_01

That's right. And then we'll got well so we'll have bouncy houses out there, we'll have games, all that good stuff. Um are we gonna have some gaga ball this year or whatever? Or I don't know. Some probably some nine square. Yeah, that'll be that'll be for kids. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And then youth will be over in the activities building.

SPEAKER_01

So y'all are gonna be in the activities building. Okay. Y'all got anything cool planned for that?

SPEAKER_03

Uh our student band's gonna lead worship with our kind of our new band. We've got some new members, so it'll be the first time they're gonna lead. Uh we have ice cream bash. Ice cream bash. We're gonna have some ice cream. Ice cream with all sorts of fun toppings for ice cream Sundays and things and lots of games and prizes.

SPEAKER_02

Chinos, what's your favorite ice cream? Uh on the spot. Rocky Road.

SPEAKER_01

Rocky Road. Okay. I can respect that. What about you, Abigail?

SPEAKER_03

Cappuccino chunky chocolate from Bronx. Okay. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

That's pretty specific. Like that's uh we gotta go, okay.

SPEAKER_03

Growing up, my mom always gave me her chocolate chunks. Uh that's the love of a pencil right now.

SPEAKER_01

I'm good with anything with peanut butter. So whatever. No, yeah. Peanut butter guy. Yeah, I'm a peanut butter guy. So anything with peanut butter, I'm good. All right, so uh that was a sidebar. All right, now uh so we do have a lot a lot going on. Um obviously school year started, so there's a lot of things kicking off. I encourage you to come down, check it out. Um come uh if you have not met Mr. Chinos himself, I encourage you to come down and do that. Yes, yes, he is an awesome dude, great presence, um, and uh a lot of fun. So um if you haven't done that, haven't done that, encourage you to do that and then um come check out everything we got going on. Men's Ministry. We are doing fame uh football. Sorry, let me restart that. Men's Ministry, we are having a fantasy football league that's kicking off. Our draft is August 30th. So if you want to get on that league and if you want to get the get on the roster, give me a holler. I'm hitting that up. So we also got that going on. Um thank you everybody for listening. We are out.

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