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The Hungry Head Of Old Road | Ghost & Ghouls Ep 12 | Season 1
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Daniel thought it was another drive home like any other day. That was, until he saw that thing fall into the road....
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Welcome to the Ghost of Goals podcast. I'm your host, Tyler. I have some more friends with me. But of course, with me, I have the sinister side of the road sloppy skull service employee of the month, my co-host Anthony. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. And friends. We have friends Cody and Ashley. I'm a friend. If you're new here, this is how this works. I'm gonna read them a fictional horror story about some ghost ghoul, extraterrestrial, paranormal, monster cryptid, undead folk horror something. Where I removed the name of the creature from the story and replaced it with descriptions. And then they get to guess to see if they know what it is. Then we'll go over its history, use of pop culture if there's any. Um, a little what would you do scenario that I had to rewrite a few times in order to include all three. And finally, a monster movie maker moment where we're gonna come up with a monster movie about this thing.
SPEAKER_01Oh, I forgot about the movie.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, we get to make a movie together.
SPEAKER_01Oh interesting.
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SPEAKER_00So we do a day early.
SPEAKER_02Day early if you care that much.
SPEAKER_01All right, so I know I do.
SPEAKER_02This is gonna be a little different because usually Ant gets uh three yes or no questions to limit to what we're talking about.
SPEAKER_01So do we each get one?
SPEAKER_02I think we each get one. Um, they are yes or no questions. Usually I do devolve a little bit into it, but um for season zero, I was all over the place. We were just pinpointing all over the globe of like, oh, that sounds cool, that's cool, that's cool. This season we're doing North America strictly.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_02So we've done some Native American stuff, we've done some paranormal hauntings in terms of like Amityville, um, the horrible hag of Detroit, some other ones. Yeah, we've done Native American stuff in terms of the Chinoo and uh we've done the Bell Witch. We did the Bell Witch. Um we did uh Spearfinger. So Spearfinger. Spearfinger. Spearfinger. That was the funniest one. Three yes or no questions. Who wants to start?
SPEAKER_05I'm gonna go ahead and say, does this thing is this thing ethereal? No. Okay. It's physical. Voice.
SPEAKER_01Does it have any like animalistic qualities?
SPEAKER_03No.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_03Oh. Physicalistic physical humanoid.
SPEAKER_04Hmm. Is it something from or would have been popularly talked about in the last hundred years? No. Oh, so it's old. It's an old critter.
SPEAKER_01My my question was the most like, did they do a supernatural episode on a- I mean there, but there's like 10 seasons.
SPEAKER_05Definitely native it has to be. It has to be native origin.
SPEAKER_02So that's I'm gonna say I'll say this. The the mainstay history item I found of this thing is from 1929. Oh. No.
SPEAKER_01So that was Well, that's within 100 years.
SPEAKER_02That was done within a hundred years, yes. Okay, but the story's much older.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_04Oh, so it was like a retelling of an older story, kind of? Possibly. That feels like a lot of things.
SPEAKER_01That's a second yes or no question.
SPEAKER_04You're well, we're supposed to you're supposed to be on my side here. That's why you gotta possibly.
SPEAKER_02Um, so collectively.
SPEAKER_01Hello. And slip.
SPEAKER_02What do you guys think it might like could potentially be? Oh, I don't.
SPEAKER_03This fire's nice.
SPEAKER_01I like it. Feels really good.
SPEAKER_03I d I don't know, I'll be real.
SPEAKER_04Have y'all already done a chupa cobra episode? No, we haven't.
SPEAKER_01Animalistic, though.
SPEAKER_05Animalistic, yeah. Is it puffer cover animalistic?
unknownOh.
SPEAKER_05Yes. Kind of ish. Yeah, I don't think I always think doggus, dingo-ish. Yeah. Hmm.
SPEAKER_01Uh Bigfoot? Uh we've been talked about within the last hundred years.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, we actually did book Bigfoot.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah, that's fair.
SPEAKER_05We can't always go back to you're right, but the last hundred years and animalistic. I would say Bigfoot's animalistic, though.
SPEAKER_01Really? I would not.
SPEAKER_05Really?
SPEAKER_01Very humanoid, just furry. True.
SPEAKER_04That's the hard thing that it's like corporeal, but it's not animalistic.
SPEAKER_01I guess when I think animalistic, I'm thinking kind of like a very like feral being. And like you could say that, but also there's a very human.
SPEAKER_05Crazy enough, too. This can also be like just killers, too, like serial killers, hat hacking. You know, that could also be Jack the Ripper? Stuff like that, yeah. But it's North America.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_05But we don't think.
SPEAKER_01I mean Jack the Clipper. Jack the Clipper. Jack.
SPEAKER_05Clipper. Yeah, this is where I always get stopped.
SPEAKER_03Uh usually.
SPEAKER_01Can I have a second question?
SPEAKER_03She's I mean, she's a guest to the show.
SPEAKER_01I'm a guest.
SPEAKER_03I feel like the guest is a good idea. Only the guest.
SPEAKER_01Was there a like Hollywood movie made on it?
SPEAKER_03No.
SPEAKER_01I don't know.
SPEAKER_05I don't know. I don't want to be asked.
SPEAKER_01Ask if there was a Buffy episode on it.
SPEAKER_04I wouldn't know. I haven't seen it.
SPEAKER_01I've seen it multiple times.
SPEAKER_04Shot in the Dark. Uh Windigo.
SPEAKER_01Animalistic to me.
SPEAKER_05I always say Wendigo in the middle.
SPEAKER_04Maybe that was the time. He's you know trying to think it's.
SPEAKER_01Maybe today's the day.
SPEAKER_04Maybe today's the day. That's why.
SPEAKER_01Wait, what if the what if the answer was right? What if you're like, yep. No, it's over.
SPEAKER_02Windigo would have been tied to the last 100 years. Yeah. And this and the second he gets one like off the cuff, like, I'm we're gonna have like confetti.
SPEAKER_05Uh so I yeah, no, I don't know. We I got nothing. No, nothing.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_01I'm ashamed to say I have nothing, but I don't.
SPEAKER_02Okay. The road through the pines was empty. Daniel liked it that way. He drove the narrow sfor the narrow forest highway every night after his shift at the gas station, the headlights of his old truck slicing through miles of black woods. Northern Maine Forest had a way of swallowing sound and light, and it felt like the world ended when he entered that tree line. But tonight something felt off. He noticed it first when the radio crackled with static. The country song dissolved into a long hiss, and Daniel slapped the dashboard. Come on! And the hiss stopped. Then he heard something else. A thump. Soft and distant. He frowned and slowed the truck. And another thump. Like something heavy hitting the ground. The sound came from somewhere in the woods beside the road. Thump! Then silence. Daniel leaned forward, squinting through the windshield. Pine branches hung over the road like black silhouettes against a cloudy sky. Probably a deer, he muttered. He went to press the gas, and the truck started to roll forward, then something hit the asphalt ahead of him. Thud! Daniel slammed on the brakes, and the headlights lit up the road. Something round sat into the middle of the pavement. At first he thought it was a rock. Then it moved. Slowly it turned, and Daniel's stomach dropped. It was a human head. The skin was gray and stretched tight. Long, tangled black hair clung to the wet pavement. Its eyes were wide and bright in the headlights reflecting kind of like a deer's. Its mouth hung open in a crooked grin. Daniel stared frozen. What the fu Suddenly, the head rolled. Not gently, not like something falling. It launched itself forward. Thump! It bounced on the pavement again. Thump! Then again. The mouth opened wider, teeth glinting. Daniel's heart slammed into his chest. Nope! He threw the truck into reverse. The engine roared as the truck lurched backwards, but the thing moved faster. Thump! It rolled closer. Daniel now saw that the neck wasn't cleanly cut, ragged flesh dangled beneath it, and something dark and wet trailed behind like rotten roots. The eyes locked onto him and it started laughing, a wet, choking cackle. Daniel slammed the truck into drive and punched the gas. The tires screamed as the truck shot forward and the head disappeared under the bumper. Prut! Daniel shouted and kept driving, and he didn't look back. Miles passed. The road stretched empty ahead of him again. The radio came back to life, playing softly like nothing had happened. Daniel laughed nervously. Just my imagination. That's that's that's all. Then something hit the roof of the truck. Thud. Daniel froze. Another hit. Thud. Something rolled across the metal above him, slowly and deliberately. He heard hair scraping against the steel. The truck swerved as Daniel panicked. Get off, get off! The laughing started again, and right above his head, the weight shifted, rolling from the from the roof towards the windshield. Daniel looked up as the face dropped into view upside down, pressed against the glass, its eyes were wide with hunger, its mouth opened wide, and then it screamed. That's what do you think this thing is? Sounds like a head.
SPEAKER_01You know, in Harry Potter, the prisoner of Azkaban, they have the night bus in the movie, and they have like the talking drunken head. I think that's who it is.
SPEAKER_05I mean, not far far off.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_05I have no clue. I've got no guesses.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, as far as like um it's a it's a really simple wording. Really? Ghost head!
SPEAKER_01Demon head. Oh, what a metal band name.
SPEAKER_04Demon Head?
SPEAKER_01Totally headless neck.
SPEAKER_02The headless. Yeah, this was the head of the totally headless.
SPEAKER_01Oh, really?
unknownWait.
SPEAKER_01No. Oh they called it that in the 1900s, like early 1900s?
SPEAKER_02The bodiless man. The bodiless man. Oh, how about that?
SPEAKER_01Interesting.
SPEAKER_05Uh anything? No, this is uh that's all I could think about was the headless horseman.
SPEAKER_01My last guess?
SPEAKER_05Okay, interesting. The other end of the horse.
SPEAKER_04The other end of the headless horseman.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Alright. So this is obviously a head, um, but is commonly referred to just as rolling heads. They are man-eating monsters from the legend of the Midwestern and Plains Native American tribes. The rolling head appears as an undead, disembodied head with long tangled hair, which rolls along the ground in pursuit of humans to kill and devour. Um Rolling Heads are created when victims are created when victims of particularly violent murders rise from the dead to seek revenge. In most stories, this takes the form of an angry man who murders his unfaithful wife, although in some versions the victim is killed for witchcraft or violating a taboo instead. And sometimes the stories are made uh gruesome by the addition of forced cannibalism. Um the homicidal husband either feeds his dead wife's flesh to his children, andor else feeds her dead lover's flesh to her before killing her. Eventually, um, this series of evil acts results in a rolling head rising from the victim's grave, and the rolling head takes revenge upon the murderer, then proceeds to terrorize its own children andor the neighboring people until someone finally manages to destroy it.
SPEAKER_04Um now I mean, uh are we really saying can can we say a head is really rising from the dead? Like it's just getting a little motion. It ain't really rising.
SPEAKER_02So the the and this I'll read the story um that has kind of been passed on that is kind of where this these originate from. Um but to destroy it, it is sometimes said that rolling heads can only be killed by drowning. And in some of the uh Objwe and Cree folklore, a drowned rolling head turned into the first sturgeon. But in other stories, rolling heads were defeated through magical powers or by causing them to fall off cliffs or into pits.
SPEAKER_01I'm thinking like baseball chuck that bad boy. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Hunt it.
SPEAKER_01Yep. Big honor.
SPEAKER_02Oh no, I have buried you. So this is oops. The tale of the rolling head in this version of the legend comes from uh Stiff Thompson's 1929 collection, Tales of the North American Indies.
SPEAKER_04Stiff Thompson.
SPEAKER_02Stiff.
SPEAKER_04That's ten out of ten names.
SPEAKER_02Alright. So in a solitary tent lived a lone family, a man, his wife, and two children. When the man went out hunting, he always painted his wife's face and body before he started in the morning. His wife went to the water, uh, went for water um in a nearby lake, and she always went to the same place. And when she came to the lake, she took off her clothes as if to bathe. Then a large snake rose out of the lake, and the woman had spoken to it and told it to appear. The snake asked her to come out to him, since her husband had gone away hunting, and the woman did as the snake said every morning she went to the lake. Her husband brought back brought back meat, and she and the children were glad. The man did not know what happened. He did not know that his wife went after water to the lake and met a large snake. But one day he asked her what made the paint come off of her, and she said that she took a bath. The next morning he started as if to hunt, but dug a hiding place near the lake to see what his wife did. She came to the shore and called to the snake, Come, I am waiting. Then he saw a big snake rise from the water and asked her if her husband was gone hunting. She answered, Yes, I am coming. She took off her clothes and entered the lake, and the snake was soon around her. The man had watched them, and now, leaving his hiding place, he jumped onto the snake and with a large knife cut it into pieces and last killed it. Then he caught his wife and killed her. He cut her up and took her meat home and gave it to his children. He cooked his wife, and the children children unknowingly ate their mother. Then the man said to them, Tell your mother when she comes home that I went to get more meat, which I left hanging on a tree so that the wolves cannot reach it. And he went away. The younger child said, Our mother is merely teasing us by staying away. But the older girl answered, Do not say anything against our mother. Then their mother's head came rolling to them, and it said, I am very sorry that my children have eaten me up. The two two children ran away, but the head pursued them. At last they were worn out, but their mother's head still rolled after them. Then the older girl drew a line or marked on the ground, and s and so a deep hole opened that the head could not cross. The younger girl was very hungry, and she said to her sister, Look at that deer. I got a piece of ash stuck in my throat. The older girl looked at the deer and it fell down dead as if it shot, so they ate it. Then someone was kind enough to was kind to them and helped them, and they lived in a large lodge that had much food of various kinds to eat. Two large panthers, two large black bears guarded them against the wild animals and persons. Um, a camp of people was starving, neither buffalo nor smaller game could be found. The people heard that the children had an abundance of food of all kinds, and so they moved to them. When they arrived, the children invited them in, and the various companies came and ate with them. Finally, they all went out again, only to the children's father, now stayed with them again, but he regretted what he had done to them, so they caused the lions to jump upon their father, and he was killed.
SPEAKER_05I don't know how to feel about that.
SPEAKER_02Very, very like like Native American.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_02Once again, kind of going into like the whole cannibalism.
SPEAKER_05I was about to say the cannibalism and then the witchcraft is always the same.
SPEAKER_02They love some cannibalism.
SPEAKER_01In the animal thing, I feel like they always um like they have animals as kind of protectors absolutely, except snakes, except they're always bad. That's true.
SPEAKER_04Always nobody likes snakes.
SPEAKER_01Nobody.
SPEAKER_04If they were far be it for me to pick apart this story, which I'm not trying to do, but who told the hungry village, hey, I was talking to this bear, and he's talking about these two little girls they're protecting now, and they got all the food. We should go over there and go eat with them.
SPEAKER_01Like, okay, to be fair, if you watch any Disney movie, bears are very much like they're out running their mouth, chilling, talking with people over honey.
SPEAKER_04You're right. You know what? I hadn't considered that angle of it.
SPEAKER_01Robin Hood.
SPEAKER_02So um my other my other thing is in terms of like what could have been possibly the uh like exchange in uh translations. Like it could have been like, yeah, bear and panther are watching them, and they're just two like just hulked out motherfuckers. They're just like, yeah, bear went right in his mouth. Oh, bear, of course. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I'm taking this literally, and I think it's like the animals from the Also really cool to just be like, see that deer over there?
SPEAKER_04Dead. And like it's I wouldn't be worried about no head if I could do that.
SPEAKER_01I think I mean if I was protected by a panther, I wouldn't be afraid of anybody.
SPEAKER_05So was the head just going after the children just trying to re-kill them because they ate her? They ate her. Okay. Instead of going for the father.
SPEAKER_01Well, at this point, I don't think that the head is like their mom exactly.
SPEAKER_02Like, no.
SPEAKER_01It's kind of like um more like a revenant.
SPEAKER_02Like, it's it's very just like it's a justice thing. Yeah. Even though it should be going after the father, no? She was banging a snake.
SPEAKER_05I was gonna say, because the the man killed her and then fed her to the children. So it's like, I had this. Did they really know?
SPEAKER_02I had this really like visceral like image when I read that story of her just like headless corpse just like hanging in a tree.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Where he was just like, just like swarm on it, like, here kids.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, here kids. I also think when it comes to like bad spirits, like proximity is very much a thing. Like, it's not always who deserves it, it's who is here that I can like kind of get the give those just desserts to.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Well, yeah.
SPEAKER_01You know, it's like like a haunted house. When people move in, it doesn't matter if they're good or bad, they're getting haunted. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So they have um seen some descriptions of these things where they're drawn like kind of like Pac-Mesque. And they kind of like they roll, and then like the whole thing is like they eat. But in some of the descriptions, like I saw, they're like huge. So it's not like, yeah, it's not like just a human head in some descriptions. It's like a man-sized human head that's like rolling at you like a moulder.
SPEAKER_01Like my exercise ball.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, yeah. That changes things up a little bit. It really does. Most of the descriptions are it is just the severed human head. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And it's just like that's not super scary until it's really big and it could like take off one of your legs immediately.
SPEAKER_02Right. Yeah. Well, my whole thing.
SPEAKER_01I mean, it's grotesque for sure.
SPEAKER_02To me, the scary part of it is like if you can't kill it and it just keeps coming, you just gotta trap it. Yeah. But like, what if it dude? It it's it's a zombie head.
SPEAKER_05Like I mean, wouldn't it? It's not gonna stop until it gets.
SPEAKER_02What's saying that it doesn't have like alligator jaws and it's just gonna chew through whatever I put it in.
SPEAKER_05But didn't you say like going into water?
SPEAKER_02In certain tribes, they say that you can drown them or you can like basically punt them off a cliff and get it to stop.
SPEAKER_05Right.
SPEAKER_02But it's I'm almost wondering if it's like, hey, you know, if I just go up this ladder, it can't get to me. Haha.
SPEAKER_05Well, you said it transforms or something like that. It changes if it was put into water, some tribes say.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, the the first sturgeon was a rolling head that was drowned. What what is a sturgeon? I don't know. A fish.
SPEAKER_01Isn't that like a really aggressive fish? I think they're like not good eating.
SPEAKER_04They're like really invasive.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Watch us all be wrong. Like, we're all be going to bed tonight. Interesting.
SPEAKER_02It's just human heads like swimming. Like all right. Would you believe me that there's no pop culture references about this thing? Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Not as I think it's a cool story, but it's hard to think about it translated into like media somehow.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. That is our job at the end of this. Alright. So scenario. You three are out hiking in the woods and you're going back to your campsite after watching the sunset and it's dark. You guys are slack packed, like you guys got a water bottle, a lighter. Um you're in the great state of California, so no firearm. Um flashlights. And that's about it. You guys are walking back. Um the forest is quiet except for the sound of your boots on the trail. Then something something heavy hits the ground behind you. You all stop turn around don't see anything. Then another thump closer and then something rolls out of the darkness and lands in the middle of the trail. And it is a seven severed human head. Long tangled hair that drags across the dirt its eyes stare at the three of you wide and shining as your flashlights beam at it. For a moment none of you move but the mouth curls into a grin and suddenly it launches forward. What do you do? How fast is this thing launches forward? Like is it like I would say chest pass at a basketball like it's it's moving pretty quick.
SPEAKER_01You would think I was in the NFL the way I would kick this.
SPEAKER_05Try to punt. That's what I mean I would I would try to go over there and try to punt it instead.
SPEAKER_04I mean there's no use in like using it also I'm where my hiking boots boy I think I've got a foolproof plan here and I think we may even just be overthinking this.
SPEAKER_01Put it in the backpack. Actually not a terrible idea either but like I'm assuming like it's got mega jaws though.
SPEAKER_04It's got hair.
SPEAKER_05It's got hair just grab the pick it up from a hey guys um why don't y'all dig a hole while I hold this what is essentially try to like try to swing it back and forth and like bite your arm with what? Like what it's got muscular hair self angle like how yeah how does it roll itself you know start rolling so couldn't it just like swing back and forth on is like I will grab it either side of the head like a basketball.
SPEAKER_01Okay I have the world's angriest Christmas ornament and then I'll like hey y'all dig a hole a deep one probably very deep but we don't have like shovels or anything we're camping.
SPEAKER_05Just start digging I just kind of feel like at this point we have time.
SPEAKER_01Yeah that's fair.
SPEAKER_05Unless there's water around us then we could just throw it under until the bubbles stop.
SPEAKER_01To the bubbles stop to the assuming there are bubbles there's no lung that's you know that's a good point. That's so I was thinking when it came to like the water thing is it because they are like drowning it or may are they like taking it out to sea you know what I mean? And dumping it where it would take a very long time to get back or something would get it before it got back.
SPEAKER_05I think it's more like the the brain is thinking it's drowning.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_05So it just like assumes it's drowning.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Yeah so like I'm if I'm holding this thing on either side initially I said hair. Grabbing it by the hair but they brought up the point of if they can launch itself off the ground it could probably launch itself around on the hair. So if I just have both hands on this thing's face. And I have I have the critter I've secured the critter. Okay.
SPEAKER_02And then I was like I can just have them dig a hole or if there's a body of water around how are we securing the critter?
SPEAKER_01He's catching it out of midair now I have now it's mine.
SPEAKER_02Now I have it. Okay. We have small wood. So you you're catching it.
SPEAKER_01Uh no what happened?
SPEAKER_02So he's catching it and you guys are digging a hole? I guess we would try to yeah dig or either if there's a we're going to play this like an episode of Dungeons and Dragons. Always a hook always a hook.
SPEAKER_05Yeah yeah I expect so Cody goes to catch it and it just gets his thumb. It wouldn't personally see no that that's exact every time I try to say something And now Cody's a zombie.
SPEAKER_01Okay wait does it does it change into a zombie? Well it's gonna change him into a zombie that's my scenario so I can see this or California it's pretty mountainous um I'm throwing them both off a cliff.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_01Oh I think no I get you going and I just did the little cartoon boop you're going oh it's like the Red Bull of the And then I'm throwing up the head and giving it the soccer ball maybe maybe we play it this way it bites Cody and now it possesses him.
SPEAKER_02And now he's just running at you with the head facing the other way.
SPEAKER_01Okay wait a minute I don't remember hearing anything about possession or song of it.
SPEAKER_02This scenario just to make it so anything that I make a good like point he's just like you know what I'm gonna stop Anthony told me one time that he was going to grab hold of a train moving at 35 miles an hour just like reach up onto it and like Batman away.
SPEAKER_05No I was gonna get onto it and then climb up and then fight go.
SPEAKER_01Okay people do jump trains though.
SPEAKER_04Exactly oh 35 miles an hour is that's moving yeah I could do it that would be like imagine jumping into the bed of a truck like as it drives by you like it's on it. Like you could try. Yeah I mean it would be tough but also a train is a much larger um there's ladders onto it there's there's areas to grab like jumping into a truck bed like that's a I think I would rather catch the angry basketball than try to jump on the train personally but so yeah Cody's now possessed by this revenant spirit. You are only saying that because my answer worked so I win now you guys have to deal with this. But here's the thing it's not launching like I'm sorry this critter's not that scary and I beat it immediately with my two hands.
SPEAKER_02But this is the thing it's not launching from the neck hole and like we don't know that. It is like it's spiraling at you.
SPEAKER_05Yeah so you get you're not gonna be like find that I'm gonna get the biggest stick and then just bay roof that thing you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_04Oh all right picture this I grab it soft toss it up while ant's already boom and then Ashley is the designated runner she hits the bases and we all clap.
SPEAKER_01And we get a home run. Okay and that's the end of the movie.
SPEAKER_04She did have a good point though about like we just put it in our in our pack.
SPEAKER_01Yeah I'm just gonna put it in my bag.
SPEAKER_04You're just trapped in bags like chew through it?
SPEAKER_01Have you ever tried to chew through I mean it'd be tough.
SPEAKER_04At minimum it's buying us like five minutes. That is true.
SPEAKER_05Yeah could truck it off the mountain or something like that. Yeah in the bag off the mountain alligator alligator out has to be I don't really like my pack that much can we take its hair and tie it around a tree branch I've heard that hair doesn't tie into knots though.
SPEAKER_01Not well. It can get really knotty though maybe it's like not a tell me about it.
SPEAKER_05Maybe it's not like a shoelace knot but it it's especially with all the branches I think I could but then I can get this like image of it like peeling itself off and it's just like the the skin ripping off creepier from it and it just Yeah exactly.
SPEAKER_01It's just and then it's like half yeah oh so we were talking about the water thing.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_01So we were like do you hold it underwater and essentially drown it?
SPEAKER_02Are you taking it like out to sea and dumping it in the middle of like a a very large body of water it's from and it can't make its way from Midwestern plains so I'm assuming it's just like hey we put it into a creek.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_04It rained last week there's a bubble over there's a ditch filled with water hold that head yeah I mean how much water do we need if it's just like an inch of water like yeah dog bowl just here is my other my other concern with this story right especially with the scenario.
SPEAKER_02You three are out there in the woods it's dark you shine your flashlights up and a severed human head is thrown onto the path in front of you. Mm-hmm like it's moving are we not looking around to see if Jeffrey if it's moving or if uh well in the first instant oh boom boom boom no I feel like it did itself I would definitely think something was going on like whole thing is like I don't think it's really what he was saying if there's a serial killer in the woods and he just hooked a huge a woman's human head like onto the trail in front of us.
SPEAKER_01We don't know that well so if it was obviously like evil and like chomping and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_04I don't that's why I said I I assume that would be looking for more like more that would be terrifying yes if it was like so when you said funk I was thinking like funk funk and then there's like a ton of them that's scary there's like a fleet of these heads coming at us yes that yeah we're kind of SOL there.
SPEAKER_05Yeah uh climb a tree. Good luck. Oh well like I don't know trees are hard to climb they they are yeah if the branches are low enough a tree's easy to get into I feel like I but it's hard to find a wood in the woods. I feel like you'd be amazed to see what you could do in uh in fear. I feel like I'm actually a very good climber I can if I could climb a tree.
SPEAKER_01I can climb a tree like a son of a gun but getting I'm not tall either getting to that first good branch to get into the tree like I can climb a crepe myrtle that's easy it's bases low to the ground but like pine trees most of the time their branches are much higher than you think.
SPEAKER_04Well I always do go hiking with my moon shoes.
SPEAKER_02Uh so I could just get a a little bit of a run to start them like air pumps you gotta like pump up real quick and you can just run and put it I got whatever them shoes were in the sandlop that let that kid jump over that fence.
SPEAKER_01Benny is that what they're called no that was his name.
SPEAKER_04Them too I got them Benny's home exactly all right did we win?
SPEAKER_01No I think you guys would all die um I'd be fine because Cody and Ant would each have one of my feet in their hands and I'd get in the tree.
SPEAKER_02Did they hoist you into the tree? I'd make it into a tree unfortunately I'd already be running when they turn around no I feel like that that is a more acceptable answer.
SPEAKER_01Ant's turning and running turning and running Ashley's trying to get in the tree and Cody's trying to catch it yeah well you b you belong to me now I'm listening I haven't felt a woman's touch oh my gosh the neck Ussie watch the teeth girl you don't have to worry about it if you go the opposite way so the neck hole the neck yeah I hate that yeah don't like that thanks Don't your crawler yeah doesn't crawler crawl breaks again all right you know I've always I've I always think about this but I have thought before like um you know those situations where people are like running through the woods and someone is chasing them yeah my thought is always immediately I would make it up a tree actually that's why you're not getting me that's why I said like people always running and like tripping over shit and like these people know the woods like the back of their hand no come up and get me that that would be more scary if you do see someone else with like an axe coming at you too because he's the one who threw the head not to be the guy that's like well I would just see red in the moment I know I would rise to the occasion but like if you if you're walking if you're walking through the woods and you're like I'm gonna find a hiker and I'm I'm a I'm a moiter him I'm gonna do some stabbins I just feel like I'm not gonna be your first pick.
SPEAKER_04You're gonna be like we'll see hold on we'll come back to him let him go lay down.
SPEAKER_01I'm probably I'm definitely victim one between us.
SPEAKER_04I mean if I'm standing next to you and they're like which one of these do I want to wrestle with it's me yeah for sure.
SPEAKER_05Yeah sorry uh I'm sure it has more to do with your pleasant personality than your stature you know they're like she's so nice and funny and killable and killable unalivable well I was gonna say it's like the last girl situation you know the survival that's fair well then it's you well no it's not gonna be it is you turned and ran. I turned and ran well and all also movie rules I feel like I'd slip and fall you know like in uh Tucker and Dale that one kid who ran and then turns over and stabs himself yeah that's that would 100% be you that would be me Cody's the final girl his shoulder to see Cody like wrestling with this thing and Ashley's like trying to hit it with a stick and then he trips and he falls off a cliff.
SPEAKER_02Yeah yeah somehow his head gets severed it raises it comes thumping back through the woods trying to so in my head I'm totally final girl material at least just because you just read that book ooh here's an idea so we're assuming Well I also grew up watching horror movies.
SPEAKER_04Sure naturally uh we're assuming this thing is you know ghost powered you know like this thing it ain't running on unleaded this thing can just propel itself how sick would it be if I just whipped out some roller blades and I'm just like mush dude I'd be cruising around the forest I'd be the new uh critter y'all be telling stories about me the old old red beard they call him blades because he just cruises through the forest blazing blades the man that runs through the forest as if like so he's gliding yes oh interesting yeah all right sounds legit you guys ready to make a movie I feel like we've we might have just made a movie here we go go ahead what's your our monster movie maker moment so how are we doing it I don't know if are you there or is it just the three of us?
SPEAKER_02Oh no no no no no this is we are going to come we're coming up with a movie like you can come up with a cast how you want it to shoot like how you want to shoot it genre oh like if if we want to do like Brad Pitt in it or Rachel McAdams is 100% in it she's the final girl and I like the idea of I don't like porn but what he always wants this so you want to make porn yeah we can make porn out of this we could I guess we certainly could but all right in my movie you got Rachel McAdams but in my movie it's definitely it's not one head it's definitely the whole like going out into the woods and you hear something boom boom boom boom boom boom and then like they're surrounded oh you know what that would be a killer like second act twist yeah so like somebody gets like murk like Seth Rogan or somebody like the comedy character gets murked by the head and then we have to come together as a team.
SPEAKER_04Like whoever's left has to come together as a team and they're like alright how are we gonna blah blah blah blah blah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah we're gonna take this thing out.
SPEAKER_04The idea is like oh what if it can't swim so like knockdown drag out fight with everybody like getting cut up bitten all like dis destroyed and then like the final girl has the head boom into the water and just ah and you know like we finally like we we finally see that the characters after this hard fought battle kill this thing. It's like oh and then that's when you hear the like yeah and it's like the struggle of one and then just the whole woodline is just like reflecting eyes yes that's what I was thinking it's like dusk so it's like just light enough and then you start seeing all their eyes opening at once.
SPEAKER_03Yes.
SPEAKER_02We love the eyes over here I think we are we're gonna do the first pop culture of the demon head the rolling head rolling head rolling head the rolling head so like are you going like are would we so many talking heads uh playlists going on too like for sure dude oh we're gonna be very honest yeah I mean 80s music is hip right now in movies anyway so it'll be like an 80s slasher like the revival editor cut that if they're not an 80s band pretty sure they are but I think they might be in the movie in the movie are they getting tall like are we telling the origin or are we just like introducing these things like hey they're just zombie heads okay well they can be like um they're in the woods they're gonna meet like an oracle right yeah they have to where somebody's like oh no you've encountered one of the heads and it's like no they've made like an army and they're like like baffled because like yeah they've heard of like what the one head but they've never heard of this and so then they go into the backstory of how it started and then they're like which we obviously get wrong because it's Hollywood so we have to get their origin story a little bit wrong.
SPEAKER_01There's definitely gonna be a few uh details in there that have been uh twisted a bit or just left out completely but then the Oracle's like I don't know how to do this we all have to leave and then like they did it.
SPEAKER_04Yeah they've lived in these I want the final scene they find uh a combine in a shed somewhere and they just mow down a field of these things.
SPEAKER_03That'd be awesome.
SPEAKER_01Wouldn't it be so awesome it would be actually like maybe somebody starts up an old tiller and that's how they take out like a line of them in the beginning.
SPEAKER_04Yeah it's just plants of the zombies at this point.
SPEAKER_01Plant yeah um old abandoned southern town and it's abandoned because of this haunting previously but they blame it on like what are those like they have those towns that were like old mining towns that have been abandoned.
SPEAKER_02Yeah it's like a like an underground yeah yeah like an underground fire they blame it on that but it's actually oh my god this movie this is coming together so good it's perfect see in the in the origin of these things it's like yeah they were made from like like violent crimes like violent murders and I was almost thinking of like having that falls into the town being all the heads are all the townspeople yeah it's perfect well I thought it would be kind of gnarly if your oracle was actually like a serial killer that had created all these things. Maybe like a witch or something oh no just like a like a serial killer like a Jack the Ripper esque like just murdered a town and nobody found it. And nobody fan figured it out and they blamed it on something else. Yeah and then they just kind of kept getting away and getting away and then he was like the last one there and couldn't get out and he's just like people come trucking into town he's like yeah here's my way out I don't know how to beat these things but they're here be ready and then he finds his way out and then you know I'm just trying to figure out how you would tie that into like Rachel McAdams I know we've got to get her or maybe he comes back and attacks her at the end and then she ends up like defending herself and killing him and then they all just kind of like yep and then just but not before the combine scene. Oh yeah no we're gonna have to have like the crazy combine scene.
SPEAKER_01Ooh maybe it's actually going on simultaneously and then like the like when he kind of sees them stop then you pan in on the combine rollers that like slowly like the lights shut off.
SPEAKER_04She stops realizes he's dead everything starts to come together or may yeah you know what maybe the fight happens like the she gets pulled out of the combine and it's still doing its thing oh it's just like driving a circle around and she ends up throwing him into the combine and then like she gets a little bit of his like spatter in her mouth so she's technically eaten some of him.
SPEAKER_02Oh so now it's like boom yeah back at it again there's the scene as he goes into the combine they all just like all the living heads that are in the way just like latch onto him and then just like you just see him just drag up there. And she thinks she's saved but she at the end she's like in the hospital and she's like but I feel so funny and they're like you know trauma can do that yeah yeah so the the the I think we could make this movie but we would have to do we'd have to set the world record on uh fake blood used in the combine scene because we would just have like a iron iron lugs beat that record yeah no we're gonna beat iron lugs how much blood was it like two tons I don't know but we're we're gonna go for six if they did two yeah oh they did like uh okay we've got a budget low enough to get Rachel McAdams though I think Rachel McAdams just come please if you would not mind setting aside some of your time we can't pay you we're poor out of the goodness of your heart we need you to fund this movie we have a vision we have a vision we have we need it to be idea it's all coming together who would be the oh uh the killer uh Kristen Stewart's husband uh Dak Shepherd Stewart of that's Kristen Bell Kristen Bell that one yeah Dak Shepard he'd be cool oh he does a podcast We're not plugging other people's podcasts.
SPEAKER_01Um, no, I'm saying maybe he would like appreciate this idea because he he gets it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, he gets it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01We're the same.
SPEAKER_02We're the s we are the same.
SPEAKER_01We're the same.
SPEAKER_02We are the same. Um, but yeah, no, we could get him to be the killer. He'd be fun. I don't know. That would be fun. Has he done any movies like hyper recently?
SPEAKER_01Not recently, no. He had directed a movie.
SPEAKER_02What was the one he was in with Dame Cook, the grocery store one? Employee of the month. Yes. Yeah. Y'all remember Dame Cook? Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Big in high school.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04So I thought he was funny in high school. That's why.
SPEAKER_01I thought he was super funny.
SPEAKER_04I mean, I don't I haven't like seen any of any of his new stuff. I don't know if he still I assume he still does comedy.
SPEAKER_01I have no idea.
SPEAKER_02Or I remember let's get Bam Bargera. I think he's free. Yeah, he's free. He's got time. He's got time on his hands.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that'd be good.
SPEAKER_02This cast of resembling.
SPEAKER_01He would make a good villain though. Like I could see him doing like the crazy eyes and like you know, like doing that well. And his eyes are really, really blue, aren't they?
unknownTrue.
SPEAKER_01If I remember correctly. I think that they're really blue.
SPEAKER_02They can just contacts if they're not.
SPEAKER_01Well, I'm just saying, like, that would work really well for like the scenes with like the eyes lighting up, you know.
SPEAKER_02True, true, true. Now, obviously, we gotta have a bunch of heads too. We're just making those like CG.
SPEAKER_01Director Cameo.
SPEAKER_02My head's in it. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_05Director Cameo, producer cameo.
SPEAKER_01Like one of the random heads. I want to be one of them.
SPEAKER_05Random heads, or are you the one where like the the final girl puts?
SPEAKER_01You know, I'm not even that picky. I don't I I could just be like one in the army that you have to like pick out later. You know, one of those fun little like, oh, she's in there.
SPEAKER_04Which one is one is she?
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So how does how does how does the the group, the final girl, how does Rachel McAdams get to the town that all this is going on in? Um kind of hand wave vacations maybe. They're doing the backpacking trip, right?
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Maybe they're driving through and they accidentally hit one and it like just shreds the tire. Maybe that would kind of be a like a trait.
SPEAKER_01Go and visit these like um abandoned towns too.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. But it would be kind of a crazy opening if like you just have like a low shot, like silhouette, like car driving up highway, and then like silhouette of a severed head rolling into the car tire and then just like goring out and just and then you hear like the whoo.
SPEAKER_05Do they see the head immediately and just like, oh my gosh, where's the body? Like, is that how it kind of seems like? They might never see that.
SPEAKER_02I don't think they see the head. I think the head just rolls out and then just goes under the car tire and just obliterates it.
SPEAKER_01And this is taking place in like Tennessee. So there's a lot of hills.
SPEAKER_02Arkansas? Why Arkansas?
SPEAKER_04I don't know.
SPEAKER_01Doesn't Tennessee have some like abandoned towns?
SPEAKER_04Sure. I would imagine. Yeah, probably.
SPEAKER_01I think they do, but I mean, don't quote me on that.
SPEAKER_04But again, though, like for the purposes of the movie, any town could be an abandoned town.
SPEAKER_05Didn't I guess it depends on what's going on?
SPEAKER_02So we have an army of severed heads that were made by an oracle series.
SPEAKER_01We really don't even have to have a um like a setup place, like we have a place to do it. Right? Like we don't have to like make one. Yeah. You're like like a big made-up scene. Like if it's an abandoned town, I assume it's kind of up for there's a lot in Texas, right?
SPEAKER_05Texas-wise. Probably.
SPEAKER_02I mean, we can honestly just do a film behind like an actual rolling head. But it's not like a regular one, it's a gigantic one.
SPEAKER_05Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02That should be like the final boss.
SPEAKER_01A huge head.
SPEAKER_02Just the huge head. He dies. The serial killer dies by getting decapitated, and then his head swells into a giant one. Yeah. That's a lot going on. That'll be number two. Yeah. The second movie.
SPEAKER_01That'll be the second movie.
SPEAKER_02Because we'll start out strong and then we're just gonna make worse and worse shit.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's gotta get worse for sure.
SPEAKER_02What is the title of this movie? Oh. Rachel McAdams stars in.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. It doesn't matter. Anything the name. Um National Treasure.
SPEAKER_02Um we could take a really like one of those, like kind of like the horror movie where it was like sorority, and it's like, yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna see some titties. Right? Maybe we just call it head. It's like Rachel Wings Adams stars in head. It's like, I want to see Mary Joe McAdams get the end.
SPEAKER_01Actually, I was just about to say that like some of my favorite titles are those that are like Jaws. Like that was an amazing Jaws was an amazing title for a movie.
SPEAKER_04And honestly, I make it one of the most honest titles is like that fish had gone.
SPEAKER_01It wasn't like shark. Yeah, it's like something like you know what I mean? Like it was so no. I don't know. It it was good.
SPEAKER_02So it's head, it's great head. Rachel Ming Adams and Dak Shepherd star and head.
SPEAKER_01Maybe we don't lead with that to get her in the movie.
SPEAKER_04Maybe not. What what we're calling it?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. That's gonna be like, oh, by the way, it's called this. It's our last meeting. Oh, by the way, in case we didn't tell you by No, don't worry about that.
SPEAKER_04That's just the that's the working title until we get something better. Whatever.
SPEAKER_05Absolutely.
SPEAKER_01Alright, maybe there's totally pop culture about this. Curious George has uh no noggin.
SPEAKER_02That's a scarecrow. It's all actually a squirrel, spoiler alert.
SPEAKER_01In case you haven't seen it.
SPEAKER_02Children's horror. Alright, anything else to add in the movie?
SPEAKER_04No, I think we got it pretty much buttoned up.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Ooh, wait, can we have that girl from Sabrina that was just in that um new screen movie that I like?
SPEAKER_04Jenna Ortega?
SPEAKER_01No. McKenna something?
SPEAKER_02Like the original Sabrina.
SPEAKER_01Is there another one? Wait, no.
SPEAKER_02Didn't Netflix come up with the other one.
SPEAKER_01Not Sabrina the Teenage Witch. Yeah, the Sabrina from the Netflix movie. Isn't that the same girl?
SPEAKER_02Hmm. The one that can I look her up? Oh, the one the one, the Trapeze one?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, the one that was in the wings. Yeah, we could get her. Yeah, I like her.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I'm just saying.
SPEAKER_02I'm pretty sure she's got connections to Ice Nine Kills. I want to meet them.
SPEAKER_01Ooh, that's a good point.
SPEAKER_02That could be the intro or outro.
SPEAKER_01So, okay, if Rachel McAdams doesn't want to do the movie, we love you. We want you to be in the movie. I'd like to be very clear about that. I'd be okay with her being the final girl as well.
SPEAKER_05That'd be a dream that Icelandine kills makes a rolling head uh song out of that. You know? That'd be so good. They could do the uh action scenes, maybe. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01If they oh, and uh Ice Line Kills, if you want to be a cameo head in the army, or they could be the ones that like die.
SPEAKER_02We might have to make uh Spencer like the main, like the one yeah, that'd be cool. Or like one that gets like a good like launched onto the combine window.
SPEAKER_01Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_02You know?
SPEAKER_01I also feel like we need like a random, random head in there for someone to pick out.
SPEAKER_02Peter Jackson.
SPEAKER_01Uh yeah.
SPEAKER_02I was thinking.
SPEAKER_01I was thinking somebody super well known, but they have nothing else to do with the movie. Like Brad Pitt, Johnny Depp. Johnny Depp's head.
SPEAKER_02Ryan Reynolds would probably do it.
SPEAKER_01Ryan Reynolds' head.
SPEAKER_02Ryan Reynolds would do it. He's been other been in other terrible movies. What? Ryan Reynolds? No. Yeah. No. Have you watched Green Lantern? I loved it. I'm sorry. He hated that. I've actually never seen it.
SPEAKER_01I know I have, but it's been what was the one that Seth Rogan was in?
SPEAKER_04Green Hornet.
SPEAKER_01Green Hornet. I was watching that um at the movie theater when I had a dog named Daisy, and she had puppies that night. And my mom was calling me freaking out. She's like, You gotta go home and take care of this dog.
SPEAKER_03Alright. Is that it? That's it. That's it. That's all I got. Rolling heads.
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SPEAKER_01And then come see Rachel McAdams starring in head in a movie theater near you.
SPEAKER_04Nope, camera's down.
SPEAKER_01What?
SPEAKER_04Right at the end though, so that kind of worked out.