Tall In The Timber | Ghost & Ghouls Ep 18 | Season 1

Daniel went searching the woods around Greenhill for a hoax, but what he found was a nightmare...

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SPEAKER_04 0:00

Welcome to the Ghosts and Ghouls podcast. I'm your host, Tyler, and with me I have the creator of the infamous website, bigfootfetish.com, my co-host Anthony.

SPEAKER_05 0:12

Bigfootfetish.com.

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Bigfootfetish.com.

SPEAKER_05 0:17

That sounds like an actual website. Oh, it's crazy.

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I'm scared for like we're gonna we're gonna go. We'll put the link in the description below.

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Just go click on it and see what it is. We're gonna do no research for it.

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Do no, yeah, don't. How you doing today, Aunt? I'm doing good. Okay. I'm doing good. How's the website traffic? It it's good. Could you imagine that's not an actual website and we can nab it? It's it's almost like the feet finder stuff. Yeah, but we could do bigfootfetish.com and that could be our merch store ideas. If you're new here, this is how this works. I'm gonna read Anthony here, a fictional horror story, where I've removed the name of uh I'm blah. Oh my gosh. I am my brain's working about a thousand fat miles faster than what I'm actually doing here. If you're new here, this is how this works. I'm gonna read Anthony here a fictional horror story about some kind of ghost, ghoul, goblin, extraterrestrial, monster, cryptid, paranormal entity slash thing, where I've removed the name of the creature from the story and replaced it with descriptions. And then Anthony here gets to guess what we might be talking about. Then we'll go over its history, its use in pop culture, a little choose your own adventure scenario in which I'll make Anthony die in a horrible way. And finally, our monster movie maker moment where us two knuckleheads will put our heads together and come up with a wonderfully, wonderfully B-rated horror movie around this creature. A B-rated? Probably B-rated for this guy. What is B-rated just Well, you have like, you know, good movies and then you have B movies. Oh, oh. And then you have like the shit I end up watching, which is just like put a gun in my mouth.

SPEAKER_05 2:08

I was I was on the ratings. You need to be believed that. I was on the ratings of like PG and PG 13 and R and M. Yeah. I wasn't.

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Yeah. You have like yeah, A movies, B movies, and then like shit movies that I watch for this podcast.

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We don't know, you know, that they're they're bad.

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Buddy, I watched Amneyville in space. Okay, it's bad.

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Like putting a gun in my mouth.

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Okay. It's either gonna be cut or it's gonna be bleeped.

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Not on Patreon, you can hear everything.

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Yeah, on Patreon you'll hear uh hear everything. Uh so yeah, that's thank you.

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Yeah.

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That's all I got. That's all you got at that point. That's all I got.

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So to kick things off, Anthony here gets three yes or no questions to kind of narrow down what we might be talking about, and then a little shot in the dark guess, and uh see if you can get it. Now, you have gotten them after the stories. Have we gotten a shot in the dark guess yet?

SPEAKER_05 3:53

No, but I was really close on one.

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Okay.

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I it was somewhere in season zero, I think.

SPEAKER_04 4:00

But for season zero, we were all over the place. I was just picking everything and anything that sounded cool. Uh season one, for 52 weeks this year, we are going to be focused on North America.

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Which I learned today, there's 23 countries in North America. Yep. There's 23.

SPEAKER_04 4:18

Where where and how and why did you learn this?

SPEAKER_05 4:22

Uh what internet argument were you watching? I was watching a streamer and they were doing a geo guesser tournament, and he also didn't know the US that well. And he was like, There's only three countries in the US and North America. You know, they were thinking Canada, Mexico, Mexico, yeah. And then they looked it up. It's like, how many countries in the US? Or North America? 23. It's like Caribbean, uh, the Central Americas, and then of course you I was about to say, you get into Central America, there's a lot of little countries. I had completely over.

SPEAKER_04 4:56

This isn't like Panama and Ecuador and all those down there, too. So yeah. Mm-hmm. So you got 23 countries to pick from.

SPEAKER_05 5:05

No, uh, so obviously I'm gonna go ahead and say, is this Native origin?

SPEAKER_04 5:09

Like Native American origin?

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Native American sorry, Native American origin.

SPEAKER_04 5:13

No, it is not of Native American origin.

SPEAKER_05 5:15

Okay. Um is this thing is this creature whatever? Are you know what is this a There's so many things I want to ask? Oh my goodness. Does this thing have like a ha is this a spirit? Is it a demonic spirit? Is it have a haunting? You know is this a sp spirit of any form? No, this is a physical being. Physical being, okay. Does its name dictate uh what it is or what it does?

SPEAKER_04 5:49

No.

SPEAKER_05 5:50

No. It is completely united.

SPEAKER_04 5:53

Strictly named after its location.

SPEAKER_05 5:56

Oh, oh, that's even worse.

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Yeah.

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Oh, the one time I didn't find It's like I'm playing GeoGasser right now. Cause we could be in like Ecuador or something, you know.

SPEAKER_04 6:08

You could be.

SPEAKER_05 6:09

Um, I'm gonna go ahead and you're gonna you said I was gonna hate you for this creature.

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Mm-hmm.

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Creature keyword. So And you went back to Bigfoot calling me Bigfoot or I the website is BigfootFetish.com. Yeah, I know, but sometimes I'd like to say that those names are hints. Sometimes there was one time it was. It like it was one, yeah, there was one time. I'm gonna go there. I don't know anything. I really don't. I can't give out an anything name, but I feel like it's something related to Bigfoot. But I'm just gonna go ahead and just say uh a windigo, just a safe pick, but you gave me a slight hoe. You gave me a slight hour for a millisecond, I was like, oh my gosh, I did it.

SPEAKER_04 6:58

You're gonna be one for 52 at some point because we will cover the windigo at some point this season. I promise you that.

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It's gonna be the very last one. It might be.

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You know, Christmas time, we get to the end of the year, scary, you know, stuff like that. No. Alright, you ready? Yeah. This story is called Tall in the Timber. People around Green Hill didn't argue about whether something lived out there. They argued about what it was. Some said it was a bear, others swore it was something older. Something that had learned how to move like a man, but never quite became one. A few called it Bigfoot, but never in a joking way. Most avoided giving it a name at all. They just described it in hushed voices, massive upright creature covered in dark matted fur, with long arms that hung too low and eyes that watched like a person's. Daniel had heard all of this. And like most people, he didn't believe a word. He went out there just before dusk, camera slung over his shoulder, boots crunching through the gravel row that cut along the base of the hill. Local legend, he muttered into his phone recording. Supposed Bigfoot siding area. Honestly, looks like another patch of woods. A sound interrupted him. A sharp crack of wood snapping somewhere uphill. Daniel paused, turning his head. Probably a deer, he said. Quieter now. But he stopped recording. The forest at Green Hill wasn't quite right. It was too quiet. No birds, no insta, no insects, just wind moving through the trees in a slow, uneven breath. Daniel stepped off the road and into the brush. Each step felt heavier the farther he went, like the ground didn't even want him there. Then he saw it. Footprints. Huge, deep impressions pressed into damp soil, half filled with water. Okay, he whispered, crouching down. They were way too big for any man. Too human for any animal he knew. And they were fresh. Another crack echoed through the trees, closer this time. Daniel stood up slowly. Hello? He called. No answer. But something moved. High up. He looked up instinctively, and his stomach dropped. It wasn't on the ground, but it was in the trees. A massive shape clung to a thick branch above him, its body hunched and unnatural against the wood, long arms wrapped around the trunk, fingers digging into the bark like claws. Its fur was dark and matted, tangled with leaves and mud, its shoulders were broad, and its chest rose and fell with slow, deliberate breaths. Then it turned its head, and Daniel saw its face. Not quite ape, not quite human, and the eyes were the worst part. Intelligent, focused, and locked directly onto him, watching him, studying him. Okay, Daniel whispered, backing up. Okay, that's the branch snapped. The thing hit the ground with a force that shook the earth, and Daniel didn't think. He ran. Branches tore at his arms as he pushed to the brush, lungs burning almost instantly, and behind him heavy footsteps. Fast. Too fast. Whatever it was, it wasn't just keeping up, it was gaining. A roar ripped through the trees, deep and violent, close enough that Daniel felt it in his chest. He risked a glance back and immediately wished he hadn't. It was charging on all fours, its massive limbs slamming into the ground, covering distance in terrifying strides. Its mouth hung open, teeth bared, not flat like an ape's, but jagged and uneven, predatory. Daniel tripped, his foot caught on the root and he slammed hard into the dirt. The breath knocked out of his lungs. No, no, no! He scrambled to his feet. Too late. The creature hit him from behind. The impact drove him into the ground, something massive crushing his spine as he screamed. A huge, fur-covered hand wrapped around his shoulder, its claws digging through fabric and skin with sickening ease. Daniel thrashed, clawing at the ground, screaming for help that wasn't coming. Please! The creature leaned over him. Hot, rancid breath washed over his face, and for a split second everything went still. Daniel looked up and met its eyes. There was no confusion in them, no hesitation, just recognition. Like it had seen countless others like him before. Then it bit down. The screaming didn't last long, and the forest swallowed it quickly. By the time silence returned, the only sound left was a slow tearing of flesh and the heavy breathing and heavy breathing of something feeding. Days later, a search party came through Green Hill and they found Daniel's camera first, still recording. The footage showed trees, dirt, and the frantic blur of movement before it cut to static. They never found the rest of him, just blood. And those same massive footprints leading deeper into the hill. The locals didn't act surprised, they just shook their heads. And when someone asked if it really was Bigfoot, an old man muttered quietly, That ain't just some story. He looked up towards the dark line of trees on Green Hill. That's their that thing's real. Now if you pass by the hill at night, you might hear something moving in the trees. Heavy, deliberate, watching and waiting. And if uh if you're unlucky, you'll hear the branches snap above you right before it drops.

SPEAKER_05 12:18

This is like an act like a more active Bigfoot, like a more primal, like predator Bigfoot.

SPEAKER_04 12:25

Okay. That's that's it.

SPEAKER_05 12:28

The top the top thing is is Bigfoot. Whatever in subgenre, like subclass it is. I I don't know exactly because like you can pick Chinoo, but I'm just gonna go with Bigfoot. Of course, you can say Sasquatch, you can say anything. Bigfoot.

SPEAKER_04 12:44

Bigfoot. You're just calling it right there, hard line, you get half a point. This is the Green Hill Monster. The Green Hill Monster is a legendary butt Bigfoot type creature reported in southeastern Oklahoma, particularly around Tallahina, starting in the 1970s. So, the reason this grabbed my attention, okay, was one, there's a couple, there's some some it is active, right? So I went and found all the sightings of this thing from 1971 to 2022. Holy crap. Wow.

SPEAKER_05 13:35

Wait, wait, wait. Why does everything stop at two tw 2022? COVID. No, why does everything stop at 2022?

SPEAKER_04 13:43

COVID. Everybody stopped going outside.

SPEAKER_05 13:45

No, that was in 2020.

SPEAKER_04 13:48

Yeah, everybody still wasn't going outside. 22. Yeah, nobody was going outside so. Oh my god! Did you go outside in 2022? Oh my god! Did you go outside when? Where'd you go? Everybody did. I didn't go out. Everybody did get outside. I was still rocking them.

SPEAKER_05 14:10

But I'm saying every encounter in in all the latest stories have always ended at 2022. That's what I'm trying to get at.

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I still blow it.

SPEAKER_05 14:20

For two years we were inside. Why are there still encounters? Oh, but it stops there. Where's three, four, and five?

SPEAKER_04 14:27

I'll be honest with you. There's only one in 2020. And there's a bit there's a big gap because there's a lot in 2012.

SPEAKER_05 14:35

Okay, and to be fair, there should be way more encounters because a lot of the time like hiking would be a better like, oh, you know.

SPEAKER_04 14:43

Yeah, no, I agree with you. Okay. You ready? I know. Year 1971. Season, fall, month, October, date about homecoming. State, Oklahoma, County, LaFleur County. Location details, 300 yards from the east end of Greenhill Road, southeast of Tallaha Tallahana. Tallahana, Tallahina, Oklahoma in LaFleur Cl in LaFleur County. Nearest town five miles southeast of Tallahen, Oklahoma, and LaFleur County. In LaFleur County. Um, observed. The story is as best I as I can remember it. I will only use initials of persons involved, but there were sever several persons involved at the time. You can take this story/slash report, however you feel. In the fall of 1971, while I was in high school, it was close to high school home uh football homecoming because several of the students were at Dressers Ranch Barn preparing for homecoming preparing a homecoming float when several members of the Oklahoma High School football team drove up the barn yelling and screaming they'd seen something in the woods on Greenhill Road. They even said that whatever it was was bigger than ES and had grabbed him while he was in the woods using the bathroom. ES was a football player well over 6'3 inches tall and weighed around 245 pounds. ES would not get out of the truck, and when they got to Dresser's Barn, he was white as a sheet and seemed to be in some sort of shock. Another football player, EN, was shaking so bad he couldn't even zip up his own pants. Several of the other football players said that they were there when it happened but didn't see anything except ES running back to where the fire was, passing them and locking himself in the truck. EN joking jokingly got his spotlight out of his truck to shine it where ES had come from. When holding the spotlight in one hand and trying to take a whiz, Leek, at the same time EN said he had seen it, a large hairy animal standing about 20 feet from him. ES and EN were the only ones to actually see whatever it was. But they were convincing and enough that the others that were there jumped in their vehicles and drove out of town, which was about five miles away. Since we had one of our teachers at Dresser's Barn with us, they came there first. After they told us what had happened, we thought they were pulling our leg, but once we all seen their faces or but once we all seen the faces of ESN, we thought there had to be something to it. So all of us jumped into our cars and trucks and headed out to Green Hill Road to see if what to s see if we could see anything. Since there was a whole line of cars and trucks going out of town at the same time, the local police saw us and called the highway patrol and county deputy. They thought we were up to no good. Once we got to Green Hill Road, several of us had a s had spotlights and were shining them out into the woods where ES had been grabbed. We didn't see anything out of place. Then Highway Patrol Trooper AET and the county deputy HB arrived to try to run us off. They did ask what was going on, so ES and Ian told them about what they had seen. After that, the highway patrol trooper AT and Deputy Sheriff HB went out into the woods to look around. Just a few minutes later, both came back to the waiting group of high school students and told us if we knew what was good for us, we would get out of town. Or get out of there. They neither confirmed or denied seeing anything. We all left to go back to town. At school the next day, the topic of most conversation was the Green Hill monster. After school, CB, BT, FM, JN, J C, FW, AW, O C, R T, M T, E N, and BL all returned to Green Hill Road to have a look in the daylight. What they found was three deer, necks broken and guts ripped out. None of the deer had a bullet hole and all were intact except for the guts being ripped out. Also notice nobody mentioned anything. The strange behavior of the law enforcement officers when they came out of the woods, finding three dead deer with necks broken the next day. Other witnesses, several witnesses, most of the 1971 uh Tallahina High School football team, highway patrolman county deputy, the kids were partying at first, but later returned to investigate. Other stories, at the time, there are no other stories of this incident. Time and conditions, time of day, about 9 p.m., clear and cold. So, witness follow-up investigation reports. The witnesses first thought the poachers were to blame for the deer kills. However, the animals were found near the Bigfoot siding location in an opening with a persimmon patch. Upon examination, the witness, a hunter himself, determined that the deer had not been shot. He moved to the deer to check for bullet holes and doing so discovered that the necks had been broken. He and others looked for tracks but found none in the surrounding grassy area. The witness is a Vietnam veteran and state employee. He did not wish for further inform additional information to be shown because he is widely known in the region. In fact, it turned out that we had several acquaintances in common. I'm convinced that this is a highly credible person and believe it likely that the deer kill stash was connected to the Sasquatch scene the previous evening. You ready for this? Sure. So we have October 1971. This is a Class B encounter. Deer cat deer kill stash discovered after Bigfoot sighting. November of 1999. So we have kind of a big gap there. Class B. 12 to 14 inch tracks found by two friends after they felt like they were being stalked by something unknown while deer hunting. January of 2000, Class A. Nighttime sighting by trucker neared uh Hanobia, which is one of the kind of the flanking, like in the flanking counties, right? Okay. July 2000, Class A. Brief sighting by fisherman, tracks found reports from investigators. I'm sorry. I don't know why this is out of order. Summer of 1980s. This would have come. Okay, okay, yeah. So we had a couple more Class B sightings in May and June 83 and 84 around LaFleur County. February 2000, Class B Strange Calls and Other Possible Bigfoot related activity experienced by investigators. October 2001, Class B. Bigfoot investigator hears loud footsteps in bipedal running. October 2001, Class A, small Sasquatch seen in a tree by a hunter near Big Cedar. April 2004, footprints found near Hanobia. Uh April 2004, Class A, Turkey Hunter has a close encounter with a Bigfoot in the uh Comachie Mountains. Well, we're gonna go into that one. October 2004, Class B, while camping, couple hears repeated strange nighttime vocalizations. March of 2000, young man has road cross encounter at dusk. February 2005, local family reports huge tracks near Big Cedar. January 2007, off-duty law enforcement officers describe vocalization, wood knocks, and rock throwing outside of their home or outside of town the town of Heavener. August 2008, Class B. Hikers hear possible vocalizations through the night of C around Cedar Lake. March 2008, Class A. Daylight observed by Bigfoot investigator near Hanabia. October 9th, or October 2009, Class B. Couple witness a possible juvenile running on all fours in Smithfield. January 2012, Class B. Passenger C large bipedal figure on a power line trail near Octavia. Uh March of 2012, Class A. Daylight sighting along highway near Big Cedar. May of 2012, Class A, early morning sightings near US 59 near Potea. September 2012, Class B. Family has a possible encounter at Cedar Lake Equestrian Camp. April 2020. Campers awoken by loud knocks around 4 a.m. near Talamina Scenic Drive. August 2022. Class B. Big House Heard by Property Owner Stones Throne from OK AR border near Mena, Arizona. I think that's Arkansas.

SPEAKER_05 23:49

This place is a fat fucking load of there are a lot of encounters, but a lot of them are just not the same. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_04 24:02

Well, this is the this is the the problem though, right? You're you're hearing it's not just we're finding tracks. We're hearing vocalizations, we're finding tracks, they're throwing rocks, they're hitting trees, and we're seeing that's that's the thing.

SPEAKER_05 24:20

A lot of these encounters are are it's not just one thing, it's probably something else. I think it's all big things. Like it's not the same thing. I think it's all big things. That's what I'm trying to get at. It's like, okay, you're hearing howling, rocks being thrown. We don't the wind could have uh lifted up some of the rocks.

SPEAKER_04 24:37

Yeah, I mean the wind is gonna lift up rocks.

SPEAKER_05 24:39

Trees, any branches, yeah, hit hit stuff against it. They didn't specify how hard the rocks are being like thrown. Are you getting thrown like attack on Titan thrown? Like we're not we're going to Oklahoma.

SPEAKER_04 24:51

We're not we're going to Oklahoma.

SPEAKER_05 24:53

We we could do that all day with tents.

SPEAKER_04 24:56

With with with you're gonna sleep in a tent, I'm gonna sleep in a cabin, I'm gonna sleep with my shotgun. I'm not sleeping in the tent, I'm gonna let you sleep in the tent outside. I'm not and when you get attack on Titan Rock thrown.

unknown 25:08

Wow.

SPEAKER_05 25:08

But this is what I'm trying to get at is that this clearly the rock throne thing can be anything. Because anything can sound literally when your mind is is is is especially at night, we don't know if they're intoxicated, we don't know if they're are were they kids? Because they couldn't have been intoxicated if they were kids.

SPEAKER_04 25:27

Dude, a lot of them are like off-duty law enforcement.

SPEAKER_05 25:29

Well, uh, family. Like we yeah, what I'm trying to get at is that in this encounter stuff, right? We're because we're we're second hearing it or third, whatever it is, that we don't know what their state of like their mental state was. We don't know if they were high, we don't know if they were drunk, we don't know if they were even of age to do any of this stuff, which then could be well, your mind could play tricks at night too when you hear stuff, you know? It's like, oh, that clearly sounds like a big thing.

SPEAKER_04 26:01

We are going to Oklahoma and you are getting your Bigfoot fetish on. We're we're gonna just let you just No, I I I get that.

SPEAKER_05 26:12

He's gonna be sitting there with his toesies out and you can just You You're trying to You're trying to convince me of all these encounters being one thing, but we also have to look at it from another standpoint that Okay, all of these encounters are not.

SPEAKER_04 26:24

So we're gonna we're there's there's one in particular I'm gonna read to you, okay? Okay. This is the April 2004. Alright. Spring, La Flor County. Nearest town, Big Cedar. Okay? Observed. On April the 17th, 2004, I was turkey hunting in Auichita. I don't know how to say that, National Forest, with my girlfriend and my brother. I had crossed the creek that ran alongside the old log road that headed up the mountain to the west. When I decided to hunt the creek bottom that afternoon, I set up my turkey blind and I got settled in to do some hunting. I blew one of my local my locator calls, it was a screaming hawk. After sitting there for about 15 minutes, I turned my head and noticed a burnt-looking tree about 50 yards to my left. I raised my shotgun and looked at it with my scope and realized that I was what I was seeing was not a tree, but a large creature like I've never seen before. It stood about eight feet tall, had charcoal dark color hair covering its entire body. The hair was about three inches long and coarse in appearance, it was watching me as well as I watching it. Its eyes were reddish brown in color, it had long arms and walked upright, never taking its eyes off me. And I never took my eyes off of it. The thing was just looking at me as if it had been watching me for some time. This thing scared the pr scared me pretty bad. If you can give me a call, I will give you more details. This thing is out there, it is not a joke. What I saw was real. I have never been scared of anything in the woods, but this thing was massive in size, and I can say this thing scared me. I have not been back into that into those woods before daylight since. So, other stories. Um, yes, one week later, me and my nephew and I heard screams of some kind of animal from a very big animal. Okay. They're looking at the conditions. 5 15 p.m., still good light, weather was fair, but the but a front was in on the way. Um, Rocky Mountains, swampy, very thick vegetation in the creek bottom, mountain to the east that the creature may use for shelter or a travel path to the river. Okay. So, this report was originally submitted to the Texas Bigfoot Research Center. This is another witness that felt like they had to get the story off the chest and wanted to tell that somebody somebody about what had happened to them. The witness had been all over and hunted this area of these mountains. He mentioned that before this encounter happened, he had met a logger who clear-cut the area south of his sighting area had seen a Bigfoot. The witness was hunting turkey from a blind about 15 feet above the creek bottom. He used a screaming hot call. I don't know what the hell that is. A screaming hot call?

SPEAKER_05 29:18

Yeah. I mean, I could I couldn't show you what it is, you know, but I don't want to. You're so stupid. God damn it, you're stupid.

SPEAKER_04 29:29

And he believed the creature approached looking for what made the call. Oh the witness saw a charcoal grayish black creature approximately 50 yards away. The creature saw the hunter and knew it was being watched. The witness knew right away that the creature was real because it locked its red eyes on him. The witness said he knew he wasn't supposed to be in the animal's territory. This was the feeling he got from the creature stare. The two watched each other, which seemed like an eternity. Then it turned around and walked away, very much like the creature in the famous Patterson film. The witness thought the animal might have been trying to get downwind from him since the wind was from the southwest. Which is fucking crazy. The witness was to the north of the creek. The hunter felt the animal might have been in a shelter had been sheltering around that thick underbrush. Also, the witness feels that the creature went towards a mountainous area and followed part of the river. He also feels he may be able to lead a team and members near to this area. Description. Looking very much like the Patterson film creature. The eyes were red, not much white to them. The head was pointed, dome-shaped. It appeared to be very powerful, huge animal, perhaps over eight feet tall, and anywhere from 450 to 600 pounds. The bicep was long, the arm was long, to mid-thigh. It also had coarse hair like a buffalo hide. The hair looked more red as it moved into the light. The face may have been a little lighter, but it may have been the smooth skin reflecting from the sun. The witness smelled a musky smell, much like a fox den. The witness did not smell anything until the wind changed direction, but that was not an overpowering smell, but still strong. On another occasion, the witness heard a low growl that built into a high-pitched scream that lasted for at least a minute to a minute and a half.

SPEAKER_05 31:22

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_04 31:24

That's wild. So, obviously, take all this with a grain of salt. You know, we're talking to the XYZ Bigfoot researcher in the big BFRO or whatever the fuck this.

SPEAKER_05 31:36

I think the ones with the the uh the actual sightings are scenes. Actual sightings are the ones, yeah, but then the ones like, oh I heard something, blah, blah, blah. Those are like, those are really take a grain of salt because that's like your mind could be like wanting to hear something, and it's like, ooh, you know, it really can't. Your mind is a powerful thing, and nature is incredibly like unpredictable, where it could do things that you never even thought it could do. I didn't even know there was exploding trees. Like, nature is crazy.

SPEAKER_04 32:08

I got an exploding tree for you. What? Explodes, I got a tree for you that'll explode at the time.

SPEAKER_05 32:14

Are you looking up the exploding trees?

SPEAKER_04 32:16

No, no, no, no, no, no. I was making a dick joke. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 32:23

I got you. But again, anyway, you know, you you want to kind of part of your mind's like, oh, I want to actually have one of these encounters. Yeah. I want to hear like Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 32:35

So if you live or know anybody who lives in the Green Hill area, and you got a story, let us know in the comments below. We would love or email us. Our emails in the descriptions.

SPEAKER_05 32:47

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_04 32:48

Like email us. Like, we want to hear these these stories. We want I want more scary stories to tell Ant about the Green Hill monster.

SPEAKER_05 32:55

The Bigfoot encounter Bigfoot encounters are always like they they s but this is the part that fucks me up about this thing, though, okay?

SPEAKER_04 33:03

Right? It's not like, hey, it I saw it. Hey, I watched the shadowy figure move across the fucking I'm on a mountainside, it's on a mountainside, and I watch it go like this and then it disappears.

SPEAKER_05 33:17

No, I had uh we we watched eyes together.

SPEAKER_04 33:20

Eye to eye. Eye to eye. But in that first one, motherfucker got grabbed.

SPEAKER_05 33:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 33:24

Like he's out there with his dick in his hand in the woods, and this thing fucking puts hands on him. Most vulnerable. Dude, for real. Harken back. I need you to go get the clip out of the the Black Anna story where it was a scenario of you outside peeing and you would just drop your pants. Goodness.

SPEAKER_05 33:47

But you just you just pee all of a sudden.

SPEAKER_04 33:52

The thing just grabs you. Grabs you. Like, I could not imagine like an eight to ten foot tall, six hundred-pound behemoth of a creature just like while I'm peeing. Like, I would like what do you what do you do with that at that point?

SPEAKER_01 34:09

I'm trying I'm peeing on him.

SPEAKER_05 34:11

You're peeing.

SPEAKER_01 34:12

I mean, obviously.

SPEAKER_05 34:13

There's nothing else I can do. Just just you need help with that. Just oh god. Earthworm. It's like, oh no! But um, no, I think the ones that are like eye to eye, like, oh no. It's like, okay, do I think that there is a big foot? Absolutely. Do I think that's oh some of the encounters are very credible? Yes. Are there a majority of them or just like I want to be the next one to tell the encounter? Yes.

SPEAKER_04 34:45

The part that got me though was how many are in this area.

SPEAKER_05 34:52

Sightings of this thing and the numerous of it is like, okay, and this is very incredible.

SPEAKER_04 34:58

In this county, like between these two towns, there's just a high.

SPEAKER_05 35:02

Do I believe that? Yeah, absolutely. Uh it it's do I now my next question is do you think like people would just grab up arms and be like, hey, let's go hunt this thing, or let's at least try to I'm throwing a slug at it.

SPEAKER_04 35:17

I mean, like, I'm not trying to be this way. If if I'm out there in the woods, right, in green around this Green Hill area, I'm bringing I'm bringing Bear Mace.

SPEAKER_05 35:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 35:29

I'm bringing a piece.

SPEAKER_05 35:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 35:31

I'm bringing a backup I'm I'm bringing my handgun, I'm bringing a backup handgun, and I'm bringing a some sort of some some sort of rifle and or shotgun. No, you're burning all bits. Yeah, yeah. Like if I if I'm gonna sling, I'm gonna sling a fucking one ounce chunk of lead into this thing. If I if I'm out here peeing, I'm peeing like at the ready. Like um. And don't come sneaking up behind me because I will shoot you.

SPEAKER_05 35:56

This thing's pruning. This thing is this thing this thing has camel.

SPEAKER_01 36:00

I'm sitting here like this, looking around, and I look down, it's just open mouth as I'm peeing. It's got some kind of wicked kink. Not the forbidden spring.

SPEAKER_00 36:14

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 36:15

This is taking a golden shower.

SPEAKER_00 36:20

But um.

SPEAKER_01 36:21

I go down, I shoot, I shoot my foot off.

SPEAKER_00 36:23

Oh god.

SPEAKER_01 36:25

Just drags me back to its cave.

SPEAKER_05 36:27

Oh gosh. But um, no, so you're the type to to obviously grab up arms and then go hunting for this thing. Now there's other people too being like, oh, you know what, we should at least go see if it's real and get evidence.

SPEAKER_04 36:41

You know? I'm not. Look, I'm I am not. Not Oh, you're not? Not going out there without something.

SPEAKER_05 36:51

No, I'm saying you're one of the people to go out there with something.

SPEAKER_04 36:54

Do I the intention to kill it? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. No, no. If I see it off in the distance, fucking cool. Okay. But if it makes any sort of aggressive movement.

SPEAKER_05 37:05

So you're that, okay. Cause I'm I'm trying to see like what what would people's actual like what would they actually do? You know, you got the song that'd be like, you go, we know there's a creature there.

SPEAKER_04 37:15

Hold on, hold on, hold on. It goes back to strange wilderness. You remember that movie? When the bigfoot comes out, oh my god!

SPEAKER_00 37:26

I think it was a growl. Yeah, you know that that scene still fucking gets me. This was so defense.

SPEAKER_05 37:39

I hate but dude, that was just like peak comedy era. Yeah, now the craziest thing is I've learned a lot of these creatures, like it it keeping eyes on you. It just means and then it can move and walk and everything without even needing to see where it's going and just watch you and never moving. That means it is a straight predator. Like it is it no, it can hunt you.

SPEAKER_04 38:10

And the fact that it was like in the in that in the April 2004 encounter was it moving to go around to get so its smell wasn't coming down wind.

unknown 38:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 38:23

Oh, this thing's smart. Oh yeah. Well, yeah, it's a hunter, it's it's lived for however long, uh obviously.

SPEAKER_03 38:32

I'm giving it a slug. Double double optimization.

SPEAKER_05 38:36

How much you wanna like sustainable that these Bigfoots are actually just the uh humans who have not evolved and are like um what's the word that it that have never like you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04 38:49

I almost said something super fucking heinous. I'm glad I caught myself. Um like they're the missing link in evolution.

SPEAKER_05 38:56

The missing link in evolution, yeah, and then just like have never evolved or never like set out to, you know what I'm saying? I I don't know how to describe it or how to. No, no, you're you're you're describing it right. I've that these were humans, and that's why it acts like so much like humanoid and everything, and bipedal, and is because I don't I don't think they're human, but I think they're a part of the great ape family. Great ape family, I can definitely see that. I can I can see these things even being like And you have to think like how we have like like how gorillas are prevalent in in jungles, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04 39:40

Yeah like this might be just the American gorilla. You know what I mean? It's just evolved because it has to deal with different types of trees and different kinds of cover and different kinds of you know Absolutely, different types of cover. Oh, yeah, and like they've they've they I mean, even if you take into the idea of like Tangaea, right? And the all the continents of the world before tectonic shifts and everything happened were all one big solid piece, and then they started to break apart. Well, then you take into Darwin's laws and how in Darwinism, how you can have two of the same birds, but if they're uh on different islands with different fruit, they're gonna develop different beaks. One's gonna develop a beak to crack nuts while the other one's gonna develop a longer beak to to pick fruit.

SPEAKER_05 40:31

Well, this one also developed to be more bipedal than a a silver bag because of the hills and the mountain areas.

SPEAKER_04 40:38

Like, oh, I need to be able to do that. It had to do standing up, it had to do possibly more climbing, maybe. That's why its arms are longer than like the average, you know.

SPEAKER_05 40:47

Like, I I think there's there's levels of like um there's just different levels of but then it goes it goes back to the question of like how have we never like decided to like just get video recording? You know how we can get video recording of like all these crazy creatures and all this stuff?

SPEAKER_04 41:05

But but then you gotta think about this too. It's like how Damn Schreider. That's a lot of hair. That was a lot of fur. Are you shedding, buddy? You coming into your summer coat? Is that why you want is that why you're up here just being an ass? You start scratching my couch, you start scratching my couch, good boy. Yeah, he's shedding a lot. Yeah, I know he is. It's getting warm. It's getting warm outside. He's gotta get sleek so he can hunt. Um but uh Christ almighty Strider. Okay, so there would be pretty. But uh He's not gonna leave me alone. Look at him. But to have uh what was it? We were I mean, you think about it in the ocean, right? There's times where it's like, oh my god, these things are still around. Like there's certain sharks that they're like, this shark has been alive for a thousand years. Oh yeah. Like, not just the species has been like unseen for a thousand years, this singular shark has been alive for a thousand years. Like, how do we get to that point? I think there's just like a a level of invasion, deforestation. I don't think the populations supported were all that big to begin with, even as you know Native Americans and American, you know, and and Europeans moved westwards. I don't think there was that many to begin with, and I think their populations have just gotten smaller and smaller.

SPEAKER_05 42:25

But I think Yeah, especially I do I think this thing was even uh would you say omnivore? Possibly it was me.

SPEAKER_04 42:35

It was yeah, probably omnivore. I mean, if you take into the account of it having the current the being a carnivore with a deer, like it had a kill stash, like hey, I caught these things, broke their necks, and I bled them. I got all the in the guts out because that's where all the poison is, because it's all the poo and everything else, right?

SPEAKER_05 42:56

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 42:57

So the muscle is all over here, so I can eat that. Oh, yeah, yeah, true. It's just like like Orca's figured out, oh hey, what's the best part of a shark? It's the liver. Well, how do we get to it? Well, we flip it upside down, it goes comatose, and we just eat through the skin to get to the liver part, and then we just let the rest of it carcass because we don't it's not good for us.

SPEAKER_05 43:16

Oh, yeah, that's true. I mean, these things. I I think this is definitely evolution. Yeah. Um, obviously. Now, where's Bigfoot you like the original like Bigfoot? The Patterson film?

SPEAKER_00 43:31

Like you're I have to look that up.

SPEAKER_05 43:33

Because Bigfoot's all everywhere, right? They say, like that it's encounters is like in very big national parks.

SPEAKER_04 43:42

Yeah. Um so the the Patterson Gimlin Bigfoot film was shot at Bluff Creek in North Cal Northern California.

SPEAKER_05 43:54

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 43:55

So there's I know in the Pacific Northwest, there's a lot of software.

SPEAKER_05 44:00

And this one was in Arkansas.

SPEAKER_04 44:02

In Oklahoma.

SPEAKER_05 44:03

Oh, in Oklahoma. Oh yeah. I thought I heard Arkansas.

SPEAKER_04 44:07

I think Arkansas, if I'm not mistaken, I think Arkansas and Oklahoma share a border.

SPEAKER_05 44:12

Oh, and then there was an encounter. I think one of the encounters there was on like Arkansas. Nah, this thing would be insane. Like it doesn't need it'd be crazier and scarier that it doesn't hunt humans.

SPEAKER_04 44:26

But it will grab a teenage boy while he's peeing.

SPEAKER_05 44:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 44:30

Yeah, Oklahoma and Arkansas share a border. And this is kind of the crazy thing, right? So I actually looked up just like a Bigfoot sightings and seeker insights. Oklahoma, Arkansas, and Missouri. Oklahoma, 111, Arkansas, 111, Missouri, 166, Illinois at 303, right? Okay. Texas at 252. But Texas is a pretty big state. But you have like a swath from Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, Kentucky, Tennessee, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas. It's like this big swath of sightings, possible sightings and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_05 45:08

You have to think, maybe they even migrate.

SPEAKER_04 45:10

They could. I mean, I wouldn't want to be a big furry bitch in Louisiana in the summer. You ready for pop culture? Sure. There's nothing.

SPEAKER_05 45:17

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_04 45:17

There's nothing regarding anything Bigfoot, go watch anything Bigfoot.

SPEAKER_05 45:21

I forgot on the same thing on the other one. Um, but just type in Bigfoot, you'll find it.

SPEAKER_04 45:27

BigfootFetish.com. Um there's nothing. There was a movie called The Monst The Green Monster from Hell, which was like a big insectoid monster that kept popping up, but there was nothing devoted to the Green Hill monster. Okay. What we're gonna come up with here in a little bit.

SPEAKER_05 45:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 45:47

Now, scenario time, you ready for this? Sure. I don't think you are. You didn't plan to be here this late. The sun is already gone, swallowed by the tree line surrounding Green Hill. Your phone barely has any signal. Your flashlight flickers at roughly 23%. And the path you came in on doesn't look familiar anymore. The woods are too quiet, no insects, no birds. Just the slow creak of branches above you. Then crack! Something heavy moves in the in blah something heavy moves in the trees. Not on the ground, above you. Low guttural breath rolls through the darkness, followed by a slow dragging sound, like weight shifting from branch to branch. You remember the stories? A massive human-shaped creature covered in dark matted fur, arms long, built for climbing, eyes that watch like it understands you. The thing people call the Green Hill Monster. Another branch snaps, closer. You tilt your flashlight up. Two faint reflective eyes stare back from the canopy, unblinking and watching. What do you do?

SPEAKER_05 46:50

What do I do?

SPEAKER_04 46:52

Run blindly down downhill towards where you think the road is. Stay still and slowly back away without making any noise. Shine your light directly at it and try to scare it off. Climb a nearby tree to get out of reach. No. Climbing okay. I mean it's in the fucking tree, so I would not go up the tree.

SPEAKER_05 47:08

So gr climbing a tree, no. Uh running blindly, that's awful. Keeping my eyes on it, that would be be a good one because in a situation you never lose eye contact with the predator. Okay. Never. If you're in that situation of like an animal that is looking at you and it's like, okay, we can either we can don't don't lose its eyes. Um actually, wait, but dude, I'm so scared about this thing because if it is classified as like a uh I'm tell- I know exactly what the fuck I'm doing.

SPEAKER_04 47:43

I'm running blindly into the woods like a fucking dumbass.

SPEAKER_05 47:47

Uh I think I'm gonna keep my eyes on it and then back away. Flashing my flashlight at it to try and scare it away with 23%? No, I'm not I'm not. I'd rather try to get out of there with the the remaining.

SPEAKER_04 48:00

You force yourself not to panic. Every instinct screams at you to run, but you don't. Instead, you take slow steps back. Another one, then another. Your breathing is shallow but controlled. Your eyes never leave those two faint reflections staring down at you from the trees. The forest feels like it's holding its breath with you. The thing above you doesn't move at first, it just watches. Then a slow shift. Wind creaks under its weight, a long arm adjusts its grip around the branch, fingers curling like hooks into the bark. You take another step back, careful, quiet. Your foot presses into a patch of leaves, crunch, silence, then the eyes blink and disappear. You d your stomach drops, you don't hear it move, you feel it. A sudden rush of air, a violent behind you. You turn, it's on the ground now, right there, closer than you ever imagined, up close its worst, massive, towering, its body hunched, but still easily over seven feet tall. Thick matted fur hangs in damp clumps, reeking of earth and decay. Its arms stretch far past its knees, muscles shifting under its coat like something built for tearing, its face not fully animal, not fully human. The eyes lock onto yours again, and this time there's no distance between you. It tilts its head, studying you, like it's deciding something. You don't move, you barely breathe. Then it takes a step forward, slow, deliberate. The ground thuds under its weight. Another step. Closer. Its lips pull back tightly, revealing uneven blunted teeth stained dark. A low rumble builds in its chest. You realize something horrifying. Backing away didn't make you disappear. It made you look like prey, trying not to be noticed. It lunges. What do you do? Spint and prast it. Make a break. Try to make a break for the trees behind it. Drop to the ground and play dead. Grab a nearby branch, rock, fight back, scream as loud as you can and try to intimidate it.

SPEAKER_05 49:58

Okay. I didn't I've I completely forgot that this thing is humanoid, and that you try to back away is also for humanoid things. Like, oh, this is trying to get away from me. I guess that only works on like cat, big cats. From my understanding. God no, it doesn't. Look at him.

unknown 50:19

No.

SPEAKER_04 50:20

He doesn't know Wendy. He said back away. I'm just gonna get closer.

SPEAKER_03 50:24

No, because it right. My wheel black cat. My wheel black cat. Look at you. You so cute.

SPEAKER_05 50:31

Oh, he'd get tossed by that thing.

SPEAKER_04 50:35

I don't know. Did you ever see the video of the cat running after the bear?

SPEAKER_05 50:38

Oh, that you know, that's a good point.

SPEAKER_04 50:40

Yeah. House cats are fucking crazy. This one is a menace to society.

SPEAKER_05 50:45

That's that is a good point.

SPEAKER_04 50:46

That the reason. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 50:48

Uh I'm gonna go ahead and say, Strider, buddy, you were fucking me all up here.

SPEAKER_04 50:53

What are you how are you hooking onto my watch band? Stop.

SPEAKER_05 50:57

So what were the two options about fighting?

SPEAKER_04 51:00

You can grab uh look to grab a branch or a rock and try to fight back. You can drop to the ground and play dead. Scream as loud as you can and try to intimidate it. Try to sprint past it and make a break for the trees behind it.

SPEAKER_05 51:12

Dude, I I want to I want to try to scream because at this point I feel like no matter what, I I'm in a boxing match now. Yeah. Like I'm Bloodhound season two. It like I'm you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04 51:26

And this thing's got what, like, four foot reach advantage on you?

SPEAKER_05 51:30

But I know in my heart, at least I try to go down fighting this thing.

SPEAKER_04 51:35

So are you trying to fight it or are you trying to scream?

SPEAKER_05 51:38

That's what I w I guess I'll try to find it. Screw it. I'll try to find it. But just know I'm doing a a a like a victory, like, or not like a it's like the Rohan's like last scream or whatever. You're going on like a like a Yeah, to death. Like, this is my final fight.

SPEAKER_04 52:00

You don't think you react. Your hand snaps down, grabbing the closest thing you can find, a thick fallen branch half buried in the dirt. It's heavier than you expected, rough and splintered, but solid, and the creature lunges and you swing. Crack! The branch slams into the side of its head. The impact jolts up your arm, nearly knocking the weapon from your grip, and the creature recoils. Just slightly, but it's enough. It lets out a deep explosive roar that rattles your chest and sends birds erupting from distant trees. You stagger back, heart pounding, you heard it. Or at least you got its attention. It turns its head slowly back towards you, and now, not studying you anymore, it's angry. Its lips peel back further, exposing more of those jagged and darkened teeth, a low growl builds into something deeper and more violent. It straightens up, taller than before, and bigger, like it's done pretending. You grip the branch tighter, raising it again. Come on! You shout, adrenaline overriding fear. For a split second, it pauses. Its eyes flick down to the weapon and back at you. Then it charges. It's you swing again, but it's faster this time. One massive arch slams into your mid into you mid-swing. The force sends the branch flying from your hands as you're thrown hard into the ground, air ripping from your lungs, and before you can recover, it's on you. A crushing weight pins your chest, hot, rancid breath floods your face as it looms over you, one massive hand presses you into the dirt. You clot its arms, but it doesn't budge. Like it's trying it's like trying to move a tree. For a moment, everything goes still. Its face lowers closer to yours, close enough that you can see the intelligence in its eyes again. Not rage, not hunger, but something colder. Recognition. Like it's done this before. Your chest tightens as the pressure increases, you feel something crack, your vision blurs. He then it lifts you effortlessly, like you weigh nothing, and slams you back down. Pain explodes through your body. You try to scream, but nothing comes out. The last thing you see is its shadow blocking out the sky, and those eyes staring down at you and blinking.

SPEAKER_05 54:07

At least I went down fighting.

SPEAKER_04 54:08

At least you went down fighting. I fuck with that. My bitch ass would have turned and ran into the fucking woods. Absolutely. Like I'd been I would have been down the fucking hill, through the fucking stream, to grandmother's house. I'd have been Yeah. I would have been pushing grandma in front of the fucking door. Like, grandma, get over there. It's hungry.

SPEAKER_05 54:29

No, this yeah, no, I absolutely this thing is uh I completely forgot that this thing just loves killing. Yeah, it's kind of an aggressive guy. This is not the Bigfoot that I I was I was taught.

SPEAKER_04 54:43

This yeah, this is not the yeah, but that's that's the like the the difference of it though. It's like this thing has like it's very territorial.

SPEAKER_05 54:50

Or do you think the other Bigfoot encounters that we like all grew up like that we've all seen and like that are more popular that are just like oh they've never gotten close.

SPEAKER_04 55:02

It's hard to say because there are Bigfoot sightings in other areas where it has been reported a Bigfoot has thrown rocks at people or at a house or at a vehicle or has made aggressive attempts and stuff like that. You know, you think the slamming of trees.

SPEAKER_05 55:21

I think also, too, to see the rock and the how like or the it throwing the rock is because it's never seen a rock it's never seen a car and it's never seen a house before. So it thinks it's a creature. Yeah. And it's like, oh, I gotta see how Let me let me deter it from me. Let me deter it or let me see its like reaction. You know, I can see that. Yeah. Uh so yeah, I feel like I if that was the case, I would have put the flashlight on him. You got a movie idea?

SPEAKER_04 55:53

Are we all into the movie? I think we're on to the movie. On to the movie. On to the movie.

SPEAKER_05 55:58

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 55:58

On to the movie?

SPEAKER_05 56:00

Context.

SPEAKER_04 56:01

Context? Welcome to the monster movie maker moment where us two dumbasses are gonna come together and make a fucking movie about the Green Hill Monster.

SPEAKER_05 56:12

Yep, yeah, yeah. Uh I actually I kinda I do, yeah. I'm gonna say I I I I do have one.

SPEAKER_04 56:19

I had one in the shower. Go ahead. I had one in the shower.

SPEAKER_05 56:23

Let's hear it. Where do you want me to go?

SPEAKER_04 56:29

No. Why are you? It was it was a it was a dumb one. It was a sick one. No. It's when I came up with Bigfoot fetish. No. No. Onlyfoot.com. Well, we've we've done we've done Bigfoot. Like, we we kind of covered the broader scope of Bigfoot back in season zero. Um, but with the Green Hill Monster, I really thought of doing it in a way where it was a almost a revenge story of a baby Bigfoot. Right? So you have the Bigfoot, it gets hit by some like a car, truck, his dad dies. Think like Lion King almost.

SPEAKER_06 57:16

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 57:17

Right?

SPEAKER_04 57:17

Or Bam, yeah, yeah. Like Bambi. Yeah. Like any Disney movie where it's so sad in the beginning. Like Frozen, they had the parents die, you know, you had Mufasa die. I just realized all those. Yeah, I know. Dad's dead. I'm trying to think of what else, what other ones have had a had a death like that. Literally every every Disney movie. Moana, the grandma dies, she becomes a stingray or something. Anyway. So you have you have adult Bigfoot get fucking murked. Okay. You have adolescent, like, juvenile Bigfoot see Papa die, right?

SPEAKER_06 58:04

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04 58:04

And then come to find out, like, all people are bad. Or, or you do the uh circus trope where it's like, oh hey, they oh come see Bigfoot, blah blah blah blah blah, right? Okay. But because it's juvenile, everybody's like, it's just a fucking monkey, but it's actually like a Bigfoot. And anyway, so tortured, whatever, seeks revenge, escapes into Oklahoma, right? Yeah. And it's just like exacting its revenge on just random people. Well, it's just it knows humans. It knows humans. Humans equal bad. Or like humans destroyed my home. You know what I mean? Like, humans dynamite dynamited the mountain and killed my family. Like I have to go blah blah blah. Right?

SPEAKER_05 58:54

Where are we going with like what year time? Like 70s, 90s.

SPEAKER_04 58:59

I think we bring it back to like the 40s. It was the 40s. The 40s.

SPEAKER_05 59:04

I was almost thinking like it starts in the 40s, but then goes like a little bit years later when it's a very good thing.

SPEAKER_04 59:09

Yeah, you could you could you could you could go some years later, maybe into like the late 50s, early 60s. But I want this thing to be like the fucking like terror of society, right? But I want it to be like right up front. There's no there's no uh like you know exactly what you're dealing with. It's super easy to watch. Um think of like cocaine bear. Oh you know what I mean? Like, you know it's a bear, he's fucked up on cocaine, and he's just here to just just get in your guts. And that's what this Bigfoot's doing. This Bigfoot is up there just fucking people up. It's hucking not just rocks, but boulders into car windshields. Like, I just want it to be a gore fest. Yeah. Just blood everywhere. This thing's going crazy. It's taking out hunters. Think if you if you put cocaine bear, right? Rambo, and uh we're approximately 10 seconds.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:08

This bear was the most apex predator. Yeah. No, absolutely.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:15

That I think I'm trying to think of like another like good, like gory, and like Texas Chainsaw Master, if you just mash them all together, you have this apex predator creature who hates humans. People are encroaching in on its territory, and it's fucking them up. Just but then like you have the you gotta have the the the cast. So then we got the the the Bigfoot researcher who's like, oh, oh man, it's a Bigfoot, like, oh my god, this is the closest thing I've ever been to it. You know, he brings in people, the news reporter, the the the wild activist, yeah. We have to put exactly the game, the the game wardens out there doing all this kind of stuff. And like he like I want him, I want him like maybe they're like destroying the forest. They're like, we're gonna log this down so we can find this thing. Like, we have to get to this point. It's fucking up corporate uh uh this contract we have, yeah, with blah blah blah to build the next fucking Walmart, whatever. And so they're just like doing all this stuff, it's fucking them all up, but I really want the Bigfoot activist to get just like Gordon half over the Bigfoot, right? So like moon's rising and he's like, there it is, and it's just like he sees its silhouette come up onto like a like a rock, like a point, right? And he goes up there and he like goes up looking for it, and he's got this little fucking uh glow stick, like he's looking, he's looking, and he turns around and he just like face into fur and he's like uh oh, and he looks up in its eyes and it just teeth roll, like lips pull back, yeah, like green glow of everything, and then it just like grabs him, and they're like, Where's Dave? And then he's just like uh and then just like splits him in half, like it's got his his torso in one, his legs and waist in the other, and it just showers himself in gore.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:06

And he's just like and just like chucks his body off the fucking cliff, and then just like scampers off, and they're just like, Jesus Christ!

SPEAKER_05 1:02:15

It's like what are you trying to make this seem like a comedy? A man just got good. Yeah. Yeah. Like almost quartered and yeah, I was almost thinking about like instead they uh he he learns how to uh so you know how we learned how to just immediately take bones out of like fish or anything like that, right? Or birds or just debone them? He's gonna give them like a spinning. But he knows how to debone a human, just like boom the spine, and then just gonna mortal combat him. Oh my gosh, he could.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:54

Yeah, that'd be a great kill. But like But I want like I want like 30 of the the most animalistic, like brutal murderings, right? And then at the end, at the end, you have like the activist and the game warden, right? And he finally, like we're gonna have to give him some kind of tragic backstory where he like went to shoot like a rabid raccoon and actually like killed a kid or something like that, like miss, like whiff completely, like, who like Timmy no! It's just like Timmy just got brained. It's like, oh my god, so he doesn't carry a gun, but then he like he forces him to carry, like use a rifle to kill the the Bigfoot or whatever. We could just flip it too and just put the Bigfoot on rabies.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:43

Oh, that's a good Oh, I didn't even think because they could get rabies right now.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:46

Yeah, like I mean, well, I mean human could get rabies, but like make it semi-nocturnal, right? Like make it so it's not it's not out hunting during the day, it has to hunt at night, whatever. It's and it goes through the trees, right? It finds a fucking raccoon, it's trying to eat the raccoon, the raccoon scratches it, now it's got rabies. Ooh, and then it's like oh fuck, now it's all foaming at the mouth and crazy, and then the brutal kills start happening, and then they're like, hey, we know this thing was out here, we are trying to leave it alone, something's wrong with it, we have to figure this out. Yeah, and then the hunt starts.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:21

I can see even the scene of like, you know, you can have like these teenagers making out, they hear the the nor the generic, you know, uh making out scene, they hear the noise, and then she's like, What is that noise? They look around, he looks in the driver's seat, like the driver window, he's like, There's nothing there. They go back, they hear noise again. It's like, I heard it. Look, there's nothing, and then they just see his face like pressed up against with the foam coming out, and it's just like wild wild red eyes, like strained, and it's just like they just strained.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:53

The vein pulsing itself.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:54

But like he breaks through the window and then twice.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:56

Well, I'm almost thinking like if his arms are long enough, right? They do that, and they like maybe they're in the back seat, and they look up like out the back window, and it's just there, like peering in at them, and it just its arms are long enough to reach through, and it just like pops the windows and just hits them and just like smashes their heads together.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:16

Just oh oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:19

Like, I'm telling you, dude, like brain bits and skull fragments just and just oh god, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:27

Yeah, I can see that thing. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:29

Um I kind of like the rabies idea more because then it brings in the Bigfoot researcher, the activist, the game warden, the news reporter, and this kind of ragtag hunting group of like, hey, we had to figure out what he's what's going on with this thing and why like we know it's here. And we've kept it secret because the Green Hill monster, like, we had to protect it. Now something's happened to it, and it is on offense, and we gotta figure out what the fuck is happening. Yeah, you we can have the coolest fucking scene, it breaks into like the Walmart. Right? Could you imagine just like six three or six like not even six over six? Yeah, like seven, eight foot tall, six hundred pounds, like just tearing people down in the fucking Walmart, the produce section, just going crazy.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:15

Well, yeah. I mean, you have the thing, like if this thing is is like we said before, part of the fucking trick. If we're if we're thinking that this thing is part of the eight uh family, yeah, right? This thing has the power of a silverback gorilla. So this thing I'd even give it. I'd give it more. But like what I'm just saying is like we have to compare it, like there, it's like, oh, this thing is just one punch in your back.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:38

Could you imagine a rabid gorilla running through Walmart? Oh. Like just tearing and biting at people.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:44

Well, just the punch would just like if your ribs crumbled.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:48

Could you imagine just like it hammer hammering down on crumbling? No, you're just yeah. First strike, but that that would be like the oh my god, that would be so cool. You have like it literally just like breaks into the back room of the local Walmart. It finds the power and shuts it off somehow, right? It's just going crazy in the back room because it can't escape. It hits the power and then it rolls out like the service door, like the flap door, and it's like, and then it's just like and it just starts just like Donkey Kong, like slapping people and just crushing them, just like running through, just obliterating, and then that's the final fight area. They gotta go into Walmart and they're you know, whatever, and fight off this thing in like whatever super superstore, whatever.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:36

Yeah, but um I I actually have a movie idea. Mine is it's it's not it's kind of the same, but it's not. This thing is just I'm going off of its hyperintelligence, right? Of it being a humanoid, bipedal creature. It knows how to hunt, it loves hunting, and it loves the joy of the kill. Now, this thing has learned over the years of from its hunting that humans are just a crazy, like a captivating creatures themselves, right? About that they just, oh, we see one, we're scared, but we'll keep coming back to see it again, right? Of course, he kills a couple uh missing uh thing, blah blah blah blah. He notices on one of the missing stuff that more humans come. And he's like, Oh, we can kill he kills, and I would say that he doesn't kill them, he doesn't he just he just knows. So what he does instead is that this Bigfoot actually takes someone, right? Either a kid or whatever, out in the backyard playing in the woods or whatever, takes the kid, doesn't kill them, but takes it to the cave, and then just starts feeds them to keep them alive, but keeps them in the cave, right? You could you could say keeps them alive.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:56

So you're taking like cocaine bear and black phone.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:00

I I guess. Have you not seen black phone? No.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:04

No.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:04

Bro, you have not seen black phone? No, I have not. Uh so it keeps it keeps it in the cave. Yep. And I would say, even like uh like uh basically it's kidnapped some uh creator or whatever, right? And now it only did it because there would be a search party.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:24

Can I add to the kidnapping thing? Yeah, right. I think it'd be cool if he kidnapped him, right? But he brought him back to a cave, but in the cave, it's almost like so I'm gonna spoil black phone for you, okay? It's about a guy who abducts children and ends up killing them in the like a concrete, like soundproof basement in his home.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:44

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:45

And the whole black phone thing is there is an old disconnected phone, and the ghost talk to the current kidnap victim through the phone.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:53

Oh, I think I've seen uh short reels of the four movies. I think I might so good.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:59

I highly recommend it. But do it that way where the Bigfoot not only has kidnapped the kid, but he has him sequestered into the back of the cave where he's like moving a rock and like shutting him off, like complete darkness. Yeah, like you're hidden in there. It's not like I'm gonna sit here and you just have to stay in the cave. Like, I'm gonna go out hunting.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:22

See, I was uh I was gonna go with the more morbid, it just breaks its leg.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:26

Oh, it breaks the kid's legs, like something literally can't crawl away.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:30

Yeah, you can't crawl away, you can't do anything, but yeah, we can do that instead, so it's not too bad. Yeah, uh, but yeah, but it keeps it, it it gives it food, gives the kid food just enough to survive. Because it knows like fish, just but it's raw, it's just raw food because it doesn't yeah, obviously. Um the only reason why it did is because it's hyper intelligent and it knows that a search party will come for this human. That's all it's thinking. And when it when they do, it starts its its hunt. It starts killing them, it starts going in trees and then jumping on them and then just like breaking their ribs, maybe grabbing them up, just like because I can even see it to where it like comes behind, like it jumps behind, the dude freezes, and then it just like bare hooks, and then just cracks.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:22

Another cool kill that you could have in that surge party flashlight, it's up in the tree branch, but it's broken off a tree limb, and it's just a point sticking down, it just grabs it by the shoulder and pulls it up. Oh you just see it like go through the back of his neck and at his chest. Oh, just the organs spill out.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:39

Absolutely, I would have that. Like, oh god, you just and that's the cool thing.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:43

Oh man, I can see that scene like lit perfectly, moonlight, and you can just see like the silhouettes, and you see this guy like coming up like into camera, like coming up, flashlights, and then you just see the two arms just quietly, just boom, it's just you just see blood gore his intestines just like the I think after like maybe we even that kill is that the lead uh search uh party comes up, they find that, and it's like, oh, it knows we're out here, yeah, and it's actually hunting us.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:20

Like we're we're in its no man.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:22

Then Hunter becomes Hunty becomes the hunted.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:24

Well, they weren't even hunting, they were just like now they know something's brought us out here and now it's hunting us. Or they don't even think that it took the kid. Yeah, they just think, oh, something's out here and it's it's hunting us. Either the kid is dead, or yeah, like it's they're still so even the parents are more like we gotta keep looking for them, and then uh of course you have the other hunters, like we can't, you know, there's something out here that is like yeah. But I guess the search continues.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:57

Are you gonna have it kill a parent?

SPEAKER_05 1:13:00

I would say that a final fight, it would I would say I would love I I'm trying to decide whether or not like which parent. I would love for a distressed mom, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:13:13

I would just freaking the fuck out that like you got sheriff, you got Sheriff Rex who's like, Samantha, we can't keep going. Like two of my men showed up dead, one of them pinned up in a fucking tree. Like, I can't keep doing this, it's raining.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:30

She's like, I'm gonna find my baby Timmy, and she goes walking off and like defiantly walking off, and then they have to like alright, well, like we're gonna have to like come back, come back, come back, come back, and she just like beelines it into the woods. They're like, fuck now, we're gonna have to find her. So they start like fanning out and do that, and then she comes across it and it just like brutally wrecks her with a fucking rock. Just like a brick.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:55

Like, see, that's I wanted to also be like, dude, do I want a do do I want to do justice to the female main character?

SPEAKER_04 1:14:03

And then you fuck up the kid even further by having it drag its mom, his mom's body back to him and just like the kid again.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:13

This is where it's like maybe not the mother, maybe I want the father, you know, like again, I don't know if I want a female lead and do justice and try to make prove like a female lead can be a good one or the male lead. I mean, there's so many good female leads. Yeah, I know, but they've been getting so much hate because what, lately? Yeah, because uh a lot of uh studios just just don't like making writing good female leads, you know, and then they blame the actors when it's clearly. You can do I mean you could. I think Because I don't know if I want I because I don't know if it's like, oh, we can make it to where the final scene of like the mother has been through all this stuff and it's like eye to eye and it's like oh I'm gonna kill you.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:58

Oh, it's like it recognizes like this thing is a pre is a predator and backs down, it's starting to back off a little bit. I kind of like that idea too.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:07

Or of course the the father figure too. We can do like either way it's interchangeable, right? And then if it's like okay, if it's the mother that dies and the it loses the kid, it's like my mom, my mommy, blah blah blah. Or if it's the father, it's like, oh, this kid who seen his father who's a protector and all that stuff is now just lifeless. It's like, oh, I've lost all hope. Like there's you know, so either way, you can Yeah, you can interchange this. You can interchange this both ways.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:39

Oh my god, you can do so much, so so much with the sound of this movie, too. Oh, dude, absolutely. Like just leaves crunching and quiet. I mean just like the quietness and like the trees creaking and bending in the wind.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:55

Like all like I don't even think it's like the birds just don't chirp or they're not around anymore. It's just like they're too scared to move. Yeah. I think that's just what it is.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:04

It's like that's this thing, it's just like just like the trees just uh um so fine so so they they end up getting f tracking it down. Figure are they gonna figure out what it is and then track it down?

SPEAKER_05 1:16:21

I think the hunters find like or I yeah, I think they find it, but I think it's also of we need to get people out, yeah. Of more of like we don't want to deal with you. Like we don't we really don't.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:34

You might have a good a good thing of like once people start getting killed, right? So you have like the first like two or three deaths, right?

SPEAKER_05 1:16:43

It was almost like an unspoken pack of you don't mess with us, we don't mess with you, but because you've started just killing us, like not even for food, not even survival, just for the joy of it. Yeah, we're gonna come for you now.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:56

I'm almost wondering if you excuse me. I'm almost wondering if you do it where the first death, it's like, oh, he fell. Like obviously he fell down the side of the sail, broke, hit his head, like he's fucking dead. Yeah. The next one's like, oh my god, how the fuck did this happen? The third one's like, oh my god, it's this thing. After like the first two people die, it's like, okay, everybody's going out in pairs now. We cannot have people going out singularly because we've already lost two survivor, like two searchers. And then that's how you get like the the disturbing, like, oh my god, it is what it is, because I watched it kill Marty and I ran back to the fucking camp.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:35

And I'm like, oh my god, this is what you could be like uh the the Marty guy, right? It's like, hey, I found something. He's on top of the rock. The dude like flashes light on is like I found something, and it's just like you could see that grabs the shoulder of the arms and then just like that, and he's like, Oh my god.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:54

Yeah, and then it's just yeah, you just see the creature behind it. Yeah, he gets to see what the creature is and then has to report back to it. But like I think that would be like a crazy, like, oh I'm gonna pull up pull arms off and he's gonna pull the arms off, what falls down, and then it's just the creature like holding the arms up and drops them.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:16

And then gives like a weird, crooked, like, like not human, but like fucked up smile.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:22

Like I agree.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:23

Like it's trying to mimic.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:25

The the human side of it feeling like, oh, killing these creatures are just fun. Yeah. That's when the like these this thing is like getting scary.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:36

Like I've killed birds, I've killed princes, but I've done it for fur.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:39

I've done it for survival. Survival, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:42

But it's like I know how to do it. These things are like I'm gonna do it. It's like a line that is crossed. I'm getting to try out all these new sorts of things. Like, I get to try all this kind of crazy shit. Yeah, I'm lying in the ditch and just like yes.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:56

A line has been crossed, there's no going back now. I fuck with it. So that's my movie. Um but how does it end? How does it end?

SPEAKER_04 1:19:04

I think mine ended in a Walmart.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:06

Oh, I think this would be at the cave where the kid is. Yeah, I think um whichever parent we decide surviving. Whichever parent decides, I I don't know which one would be a good story. Um either way, this thing knows whichever parent it is, it's a it's gonna be good like a fight. Like he knows either I can just leave and keep killing, or like I'm gonna kill you stuff, but either way it's gonna be a fight now, right? Uh, but I feel like there's other hunters maybe with it.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:36

Uh could be I I do like the idea of the parent being like that becoming the apex predator, that this thing is finally like, nope, no motherfucker, I ain't fucking with you. Like, you too scary, like the whole and it's almost taking it like animalistic again, like this thing has lost everything and is willing to go to the like the end. Like, I'm not f I have to preserve myself. Fuck off, I'm leaving.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:04

Yeah, and then that's when like the thing because you can even go with like the mother being like, Oh, I know my kid's still out there, but the father's dead. I'm gonna go towards more the cave. What? But if it's the father that's alive, it's like, oh, I already feel like everybody's gone. I have nothing left to lose. You're my last, like, I'm coming for you. Yeah, like I so he goes more to it.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:27

Kind of given the whole revenge story versus it's kind of like the mom getting to that point of like I can still feel my child's alive because there have been times where it's like I never doubted that.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:36

That's why I was like, like in abduction memories.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:39

Yeah, you have like those crazy abduction stories where it's like a like a dad gave up on the kid in like the first like three weeks, and the mom's like 10, 13 years later, it's like I never doubted that you weren't alive. Absolutely, like, and it's crazy because like even having my kids, like there is some kind of bond that my wife and my children have, like innately telepathic, like heart to heart. It is the weirdest fucking thing. Because if my wife gets upset, my kids get upset. Like my my wife could be crying at a movie, and my kids will walk in, look at her, and it's like and it's like, dude, like complete empath to what she's feeling. Now, me, I could be sitting there like boo-hooing at something, like just bawling my ass out, and they're like, Sup, pussy? Like, what are you crying about? Yeah, so yeah, maybe that would be like, and I kind of like that idea of the strong female lead of like, hey, my kid's still out here, I can feel it.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:34

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:35

And like, I'm gonna go figure it out.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:37

I think we can and like with this animalistic stuff, it's like, oh, I can sense this is like a mother, like it's like, oh shh, I gotta back off a little bit. Because even when you look at like big cats, the lion or whatever, when it messes with the cub, that lioness, like, is like, no, no, you're you get away. Mama bear, mama bear comes out, scares it off. Because it's like, I'm like, oh, because you think you can just play with the cub like that now you're yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:04

So I almost like the idea of like the finality of it, right? Is that she scares it out of the cave, she sees her kid, is embracing, and then she hears a gunshot and ring out, and they're like, We got it, we fucking got it. And it's like the hunter posse that was like 130, 150 yards behind her, that finally got to her, and they saw this thing like run out of the cave and it trying to make a break for it, and then they just clipped it and got it. Oh, I can see that. Yeah, and then she's just like hugging her child, crying because like the sheer relief, and we got it, fuck yeah, I can even see that scene of just like, yeah, and then like a blurry like man comes up to the cave, he's like, We got it, yeah, we got it, and it's just hyper focused on her and the kid in the foreground, but you have like the like the exact game of the cave lighting and the silhouette coming, he's got his rifle over his head, and then cut to black.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:07

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:08

Cut to black. Yeah, mine's gonna go just straight gore, be horror movie, yeah, rabied green hill monster.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:17

Mine definitely just focuses on the hyperintelligence of this thing.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:20

I like yours better, to be honest.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:22

Well, I don't know. I I don't I'm oof.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:25

I like yours better.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:27

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SPEAKER_04 1:24:06

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SPEAKER_05 1:24:13

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