The Eyes In The Window | Ghost & Ghouls Ep 24 | Season 1

The Morales family never thought that what came that night with the storm would be their end....

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SPEAKER_00 0:00

Welcome to the Ghost and Ghouls Podcast. I'm your host Tyler. And with me I have the Cryptid Creek correspondent himself, my co-host Anthony.

SPEAKER_01 0:07

How you doing today? Uh I'm doing good. I feel like you've used that one before. I don't think I have. I feel like you're gonna reuse later.

SPEAKER_00 0:15

There's probably gonna be some because there's no like my brain, after writing so many stories and researching so much, like that's one of the last things I put into the episode. And sometimes my brain just like is what it is. If you're new here, this is how this works. I'm gonna read Anthony here, a fictional horror story about some cryptid ghost school goblin, haunting, paranormal entity, demonic possession, extraterrestrial alien, something or another slash thing. Or I remove the name of the creature in the story and replace it with descriptions. Then Anthony gets the guest to see what we're talking about this week. Then we'll go over its history, its use and pop culture, if any. A little choose your own adventure scenario, and finally our monster movie maker moment where we will come up with a wonderfully awesome movie idea. We're c I'm I'm personally coming off a theater high. Um, I saw backrooms and obsession this week, and I am like flying high on the horror.

SPEAKER_01 1:18

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SPEAKER_00 2:14

Yeah, yeah. We're everywhere. Go listen to us, we're funny. Not really. We have elegant. Or elegant, is that what you said? At least I was about to say, I'm about the furthest thing from elegance that you can get. So uh to start this thing off. Anthony gets three yes or no questions, and then a shot in the dark guest to figure out what we might be talking about this week. Let's see if he can get it off the rip. Anthony. Wendigo! Oh fuck. Is that I'm gonna then get two more questions.

SPEAKER_01 2:55

Actually, I didn't frame it as a question. It was a statement. Wendigo, period. No, uh Okay. It does this, I'm like, Well, okay, slow down there, cowboy. Okay, okay. Is this thing native origin? Native American origin.

unknown 3:22

No.

SPEAKER_01 3:23

No, it's not. Oh my okay. Is this thing does its name dictate what it does or what it is? Yes. Ooh, I hate that. Okay. Is this a spirit? A spirit or haunting?

SPEAKER_00 3:43

No.

SPEAKER_01 3:44

So it's a physical thing, it's not native origin.

SPEAKER_00 3:48

And it's its name. I'm gonna say, I'll say this. It's not Native American origin.

SPEAKER_01 3:54

Oh, we're finally somewhere else. Either probably Aztec or Mayans, probably around there. May maybe to a point. Uh I mean you can still say Native American. Okay. You know. North America is like technically. Uh you can categorize them. Of course, it's not gonna be true, and uh there's probably a lot debates about that, but uh Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:20

Um, I don't in terms of the United States, we are in the United States, but we're sharing a very, very close you know, it's back and forth across the world.

SPEAKER_01 4:33

Yeah, so I can be dealing with either Mexico or all of the Central Americas or even the Caribbeans. Or Canada. I mean, I don't I don't know what kind of creatures they got. Granted, I don't know what kind of creatures they're nice ones. I don't know the chinoo well no, the chinoo does have technically the chinoo was not nice. The chinoo No, the Chinoo was not nice.

SPEAKER_00 4:59

Chinoo fucked people up.

SPEAKER_01 5:01

Um however it did have a redeeming quality where it could be redeemed. It could be saved. Yes, it could be saved. Um, I don't know any of their creatures uh off of those three physical forms off of the natives. It would have to probably be based off of something that they did or just do. You know? So so like so like for instance the spear what is it, the spear finger lady was based off of the rock formations of like where those uh the native origin, the native Americans were at. So it's like it's either okay, something like that, or it could be something of like maybe with their sacrifices they did they do. Uh I would probably have to be after something that like uh cannibalistic, maybe. So I don't know. I I'm just gonna throw a random thing out there like a flesh eater.

SPEAKER_00 6:04

Nope.

SPEAKER_01 6:05

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 6:07

Nope. Are you ready for this? Yeah, sure. This story is called The Eyes at the Window. The storm arrived just after sunset. Rain hammered the roof of the isolated farmhouse while thunder rolled across the South Texan plains. Inside, the Morales family gathered in the living room. Miguel sat in his recliner, watching television while his wife Elena folded laundry. Their children, 12-year-old Sophia and eight-year-old Daniel, argued over a board game spread across the floor. It should have been an ordinary night. Then the owl appeared. Sophia noticed it first. Mom? Alina looked up. What is it? There's a bird outside. Perched on the fence beyond the kitchen window was a massive owl. Its feathers were dark and soaked by the rain. Even from a distance, it seemed far too large. Miguel stood and peered through the glass. That's a big one. The owl didn't move. It simply stared at the house, its eyes reflecting yellow in the storm. Maybe it's hurt, Sophia said. Miguel shook his head. No owl stays out in weather like this. A crack of lightning illuminated the yard. For a split second, the owl seemed closer. Miguel frowned. Had it moved? Another flash. Now it was perched on the clothesline pulled. The family exchanged nervous glances. That's impossible, Elena whispered. No one had seen it fly. The owl tilted its head. Then it let out a sound. Not a hoot or a screech. A woman's laugh. The room went silent. Daniel burst into tears. Miguel immediately ran to lock the doors. Everybody, stay away from the windows. The laugh echoed again from outside, high and cold, and impossibly human. Then the power died, and darkness swallowed the house. Only the rain and distant thunder remained. Miguel grabbed a flashlight from the kitchen drawer. The beam swept across the room, then it stopped. Outside the window, the owl was gone. For several seconds nobody spoke. Then a slow scratching sound drifted across the glass. Scratch, scratch. Scratch. The flashlight trembled in Miguel's hand. Something was standing outside. The beam revealed a figure, a woman, tall and thin. Her wet hair hung over her pale face. Her eyes gleamed yellow in the darkness. She smiled. Miguel staggered backwards. The figure's mouth stretched wide, then her body twisted and bones cracked, arms folded inward, feathers erupted from her skin, and within seconds the woman had become an enormous owl once again. The creature launched itself upwards and vanished into the storm. What was that? Elena whispered. Miguel didn't answer. Because deep down he already knew the stories, the old stories told to him by his grandmother. Stories about a giant owl like witch that prowled, lonely roads at night, a creature that could take shape of a woman and was said to bring death whenever it appeared. The scratching moved to the roof. Heavy footsteps followed. Not bird footsteps, but human footsteps. Something was walking above them. Back and forth, back and forth, and the ceiling groaned. Then came a tremendous crash, and the attic door burst open. Miguel shoved his family behind him as a dark shape dropped into the hallway. The flashlight beam caught feathers and claws. And a face that was neither bird nor woman. The monstrous owl witch screamed. The sound shattered the windows throughout the house. Miguel charged forward with a fireplace poker. The creature moved faster than he thought. A claw slashed across his throat. Blood sprayed the walls. He collapsed before he could even cry out. Elena screamed. The children ran. The winged horror followed. Daniel made it only halfway down the hall before the creature seized him. The boy disappeared into a storm of feathers and claws. His scream lasted less than a second. Sophia locked herself in her bedroom. She shoved furniture against the door. Outside she heard her mother fighting, then screaming, then silence. The girl curled into a corner and covered her ears. The bedroom door exploded inward. The creature stepped through. Moonlight from the broken window illuminated its twisted form. Long black feathers covered a body shaped almost like a woman. Massive wings scraped the walls. Its face shifted constantly between owl and human. Then it stared at Sophia. The creature's yellow eyes reflected in her terrified face. Then it smiled. The next morning police arrived after neighbors reported hearing screams during the storm. They found they found the farmhouse destroyed. Windows shattered. Blood everywhere, but no sign of the Morales family. No bodies, no footprints, nothing. The investigation went nowhere. Years later, travelers still pass that abandoned farmhouse. Most avoid stopping. Because sometimes after sunset, a huge owl can be seen perched on the roof, watching and waiting. And when lightning flashes across the field, some swear they don't see an owl at all. They see a gaunt woman with black hair, glowing eyes, and a smile too far too wide to belong to any human being standing there in the darkness. Smash.

SPEAKER_01 11:17

Alright, um, so I think So I think I hate you so much. Okay, so I'm either I have a couple different names throwing out there like Wing Tor or Owl of uh the witch. Um the winged witch.

SPEAKER_00 11:39

Think a little further south.

SPEAKER_01 11:41

What does that even mean? Further south? Think south. Think south? Yeah. Um farmland wing uh farm farm farmland witch or something like that. I don't I actually do not know. Okay. This is Yeah, sure. You ready for this? Yeah. Lachusa. What the fu hold on, hold on, hold on. What what do you mean by think south? Like, okay Lachusa. We're in Texas, think south.

SPEAKER_00 12:12

We're in New Mexico.

SPEAKER_01 12:14

No, I g I I get that. I think that's a good idea.

SPEAKER_00 12:16

What does Lachusa stand for? What does that mean in Spanish?

SPEAKER_01 12:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:21

What does it stand for? What does it mean? I'm not too sure. Lechuza, Spanish to English, is an owl. Lachuza is a terrifying shape-shifting witch witch in Mexican and Texan folklore, according to legend, she is the evil witch who traded her soul to the devil in exchange for dark magic, giving her the ability to transform into a giant bird, often with the head of a human woman. Which is really kind of gross. Yeah, absolutely. Um, origins of the legend. Some say the the Lechusa is a witch who had sold her soul to the devil, others say that she was once a woman who was wronged by members of her village. In certain regions, stories say that the woman's child was killed by a drunk, or that the woman herself was killed, leaving her to stalk the skies at night, waiting to enact her wicked vengeance by preying on drunk men stumbling their way home from the bar. And there's also a second, or technically a third, um, called the Exiled Bruja, a woman exiled or killed by superstitious villagers who accused her of witchcraft, returning from the grave as an owl to terrorize the innocent. Um, according to her uh to my to the research, uh, it has some hunting tactics that it's known for. Oh. Uh La Lechusa is a creature of the night. She is notoriously known for her predatory behavior, often lurks in trees or on the roofs of homes, peering through windows. She uses supernatural sounds like whistling or mimicking the cries of crying human babies to lure curious victims outside. Once a victim wanders out to investigate, she swoops down and carries them off to her mountain layer to be devoured. So Yeah, not me. I I watched a couple things on this. Okay. A couple podcasts. PBS actually had an episode of Monstrum on this.

unknown 14:12

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 14:13

Where they go over a couple things. And they were talking about the origin of this. And do you remember Do you remember back when we talked about the Odze? Yes. When Christianity came in and it melded with the the superstitious native religions, and the guy got the was like, hey, I'm gonna I'm gonna talk about the oddze. He had a dream about an oddze and was like, hey, I'm a Christian, I'm not coming in to talk about the oddze because I still believe this thing is real. Okay. Very much similar origin of this. Instance of the Okay, okay, okay. You had the Native uh the Native American people that shared the border between now Mexico and Texas, right? Yes. They were up and down. As the Spaniards came in and they brought the the tales of Christianity with them, okay, okay, melded with the already superstition superstition-led religions of the Native American people of the region. So I guess, and I didn't know this, that a lot of people in that region and even into further into Mexico, like owls were a big thing, like a big thing of like that's an omen of darkness.

SPEAKER_01 15:27

Like, that's like no, because in some other parts, an owl is the a symbol of wisdom and goodness. Intelligence.

SPEAKER_00 15:36

Yeah, but because they were night hunters, they were afraid of them because all of a sudden little little things were disappearing and it was owls that were killing it and taking it away. And if you've ever seen an owl kill something, it's kind of gruesome. Like their talons are crazy.

SPEAKER_01 15:51

I've only seen them like snatch up stuff, of course.

SPEAKER_00 15:53

Yeah, no, like you watch a uh owl's talons hit something, like it's killing it, it's pretty, pretty crazy.

SPEAKER_01 16:00

Yeah, I've only seen that movie about owls. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:05

But it's true. But there was, yeah, so you had the the the mech the witchcraft mixing with the so they had witchcraft, they had sorcery, and then Christianity came and sell and inserted itself in between, and you had this melding and folding of stories that basically made this thing because they didn't have a devil.

SPEAKER_01 16:34

So is this technically a witch?

SPEAKER_00 16:36

Just just straight out, just witch. This is somebody who has performed witchcraft, yes.

SPEAKER_01 16:43

But you can't just outright say, oh, this is a witch.

SPEAKER_00 16:46

This this person's a witch. No.

SPEAKER_01 16:47

No, they just sold their well stories tell that they sold their soul to become an owl.

SPEAKER_00 16:53

No. So, but here's the thing. A lot of the stories that that coincide with the the Lachuza are the vengeance. Uh so where as much the odds in Africa was I'm going to put a curse on this person and send a part of my soul to go fuck them up because they have something I want. Or they've done something against me. The Lachuza is very much in that same vein. But it's more of about vengeance and wrath. I'm out to hurt the drunk that killed my kid or killed me from the afterlife or in the current life.

SPEAKER_01 17:31

I don't know if the is it really about that?

SPEAKER_00 17:34

Like the the they killed me, so I'm So everything I found was was l like linking into that story to a point.

SPEAKER_01 17:44

So not only So you in in some ways, you could theoretically say yes, it also could be a spirit. Yeah. But the general sense is no.

SPEAKER_00 17:55

Yeah. So and the and it's hard because there's not a a hard written history. There, you know, there's stories kind of like native, you know, it's it's all oral traditions passed down. But when the Spaniards came in and Christianity kind of took over, there was a lot of the um oh black magic sorceries, oh you guys practice these things, yeah, you guys are witches, you guys are evil, and those those those names started getting thrown around really willy-nilly. And a lot of women of the native the native population were persecuted because of that. And their families were persecuted because of that, because oh, they might be praying to the rain god for rain for their crops. Well, she's she's sacrificed a chicken. That bitch is a witch. True. We're getting her. Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 18:47

See that's in okay, okay. I was trying to think of something else about this thing that uh I I literally had it in my mind and I lost it. That's okay. Golly.

SPEAKER_00 18:58

It'll come back around.

SPEAKER_01 18:59

It probably will.

SPEAKER_00 19:00

Yeah. But a shape-shifting owl woman who is just snatching people off the road. So here's a kind of a cool thing, though. Okay. According to regional traditions, the legend serves as a cautionary tale for children to behave and for adults to stay inside at night. If you find yourself encountering a Lechusa, folklore suggests several ways to protect yourself. Praying and reciting religious rites. Christianity. Yeah. Okay. Spreading salt across your doors and windows to act as a barrier. In most witchcraft stores. Tying seven knots into a piece of string or rope to trap or confuse the entity. Wait, what? Tying seven knots in a piece of string or rope to confuse the entity. To confuse it.

SPEAKER_01 19:50

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 19:50

So basically it's kind of you remember uh what was it, the Rougeuru where you had to throw more than the 13 concept? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is also insane to me. Because these fuckers can't get out. If you think about it, in that in that same time frame, in the same kind of melding of oral traditions with written traditions and Christianity coming through, you had the Rougarou from France. Yes. And now you have the Lachuza from Spain kind of all melding into that same kind of because you know they all traded. So they all had stories that moved across. And I could very easily see being like, well, yeah, to defeat a Rugaru, you just gotta throw more than 13 things on the ground. Well, yeah, to beat the Lachusa, yeah, you gotta tie seven knots. You can't count above six. He gets confused.

SPEAKER_01 20:38

I think I think these things are just dumb.

unknown 20:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:42

Let's go ahead and just call it what it is. It's like it's a bird. None of it can count? Really? Okay. No, I mean, if you didn't have to, you know, if you didn't learn up learning mathematics, you really didn't have to. I am actually really curious about the salt thing. It's like, when did salt become like the worst enemy of like any kind of witchcraft?

SPEAKER_00 21:00

So I think a lot of that comes from um the Sodom and Gomorrah in the Bible. Oh, where God basically burned the city to to ashes and he told that one dude's family, like, you gotta get out. Don't look back. His wife looked into a pillar of salt. And he leveled everything. And I think that's what it was is you were you had this this biblical sense of salt being like the Yeah, the ashes of, and that's how we deterred is we put salt on ashes of flesh, basically basically of witchcraft and hedonism and and and black magic. Because they were doing all sorts of that that those two cities were fine more or chaos. Like they were doing all sorts of crazy trick.

SPEAKER_01 21:48

A lot of things were terrible with this cities.

SPEAKER_00 21:50

Yeah, I'm surprised like Epstein Island didn't get the same treatment. But yeah. I'm not I'm still I'm still waiting. Now I found a Really crazy story on Reddit about the Lechuza. Okay. Alright, Henny, what is it? Alright, so the poster says this is a true story by my mom and how I almost fell victim to the Lechusa. It happened when I was only a few weeks old, and my mother decided to go to uh Monterey, Mexico to show me to her family who lives there. When we got there, my mother told me that her family decided to have a big party to celebrate our arrival. She explained how everyone wanted to hold me and showered me with gifts as I was the first child of my mother's. When it was over, my grandmother took my mom and I to the guest bedroom where we would be sleeping in. My grandma bought an old school bassinet for me to sleep in while my mother slept in a bed on the other side of the room. My mom put me into the bassinet in two small pillows beside me because she was afraid of me accidentally bumping my head. As we got settled, my grandma's Rottweiler named Rocky came in. He didn't want to leave, so he stayed in our room since he was a relatively gentle dog. It was very hot that night, so to let some air in, my mom opened the sliding glass door that led to the balcony. We were on the second floor, so she felt safe enough leaving it open. Soon after she got settled in, we went to sleep. It was around 3 a.m. when my mom awoke from loud growls and barks from Rocky. It was strange to her because she had had because the dog had never acted this way. He was relatively a quiet and gentle dog, so this was alarming to her. So then she heard me crying and rushed to my aid, and shocked she was left shocked and speechless to what she could make out in the dark. I was flipped onto my stomach, face down on the mattress. She immediately ran to pick me up and turned her attention to Rocky, who was still growling and barking uncontrollably. She looked up by the balcony and saw it. She explained the creature as the ugliest, most gigantic owl she had ever seen before. Its mouth and wings were wide open and its feathers were black as coal. Rocky ran to the balcony in an attempt to catch it, but the owl quickly flew away into the darkness. My grandpa quickly came into the room after hearing the commotion. He came to check on us, and he found my mother in the middle of the room on the floor holding me if she was sh like she was shielding me, and Rocky barking by the balcony into the sky. My mother found a scratch on my leg. She also noticed that the pillows that she had used to keep my head in place were on the other side of the room from us, as if they were tossed out of the way. Today my mother tells me that I survived an attempt from the Lechusa. The Mexican legend says that the Lechusa is a creature specifically, a witch who sold her soul to the devil in exchange for power, giving her the ability to transform into a monster, a giant owl. It is said that the Lechusa goes to hunt at night for any potential victims, like animals and drunk people. But more preferably, she loves to hunt for children. Children to snatch and take back to her hut in the mountains where she would devour them for or sacrifice. Hold on, buddy. Whenever I go to visit my family, they always call me Lechuitsa as a remembrance of surviving Lachuza's attempt. The real hero here, though, is my grandma's dog Rocky. He is the one who stopped the owl from doing anything else and chasing it away. If it weren't for him, I don't know what else could have happened. Sadly, he passed away this year. I couldn't get to see him before as I lived in the US, but I always remember him as a hero. My mother bought Rocky at least 10 bags of treats for protecting us at night after the incident, by the way. I'm 17 year old 17 years old today, and I still have a small scar on my leg, the same place where my mom told me the owl had scratched me. Though I know logically it could have been just a regular, oddly gigantic owl, it doesn't explain why it would have come into the house, pick up and toss pillows the pillows beside me, and leave my face planted with a small scratch that never healed properly. Update. Hello, it's May of 2023 now. I have noticed many people telling my story on different social medias, so that's cool. Just leaving this update to l uh here to let people know that they can tell my stories if they want to. I just asked to mention my at, please. I've also updated my spelling errors as I was not the best double checker back then. Also, an update on the story as well. I mentioned this story, my mother again. Uh I mentioned the story to my mother again recently, and she corrected me with one part of the story, and it's creepy. My mother had heard me crying in random IAD. She could not see that well in the dark, but she told me that the Lechusa was not perched on the balcony railing. I had misunderheard misheard her the first time she told me the story. It was not perched on the balcony railing, it was perched on the bassinets. Opposite side of where she was standing, staring at her with its wings out and mouth wide open. Atticus, stop. After stepping back from the st from the startle, with me in her arms, my mom said that Rocky had actually lunged at the creature and knocked over the bassinet. La Lachusa flew onto the balcony railing, but as Rocky continued to chase it, it escaped into the night sky.

SPEAKER_01 27:16

Nah, yeah. Dogs. Oof. So that's one way of getting rid of the La Trusa. It's just having a dog. I wonder if it's if it's that uh animal instincts it still has. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 27:30

Yeah. Um, now this comes from, and I I want to make sure I mention the at. It's at Cannachu underscore 2020 that shared this. Crazy story.

SPEAKER_01 27:42

Yeah, no, absolutely insane story.

SPEAKER_00 27:44

Like, what a what a wild ride.

SPEAKER_01 27:46

Yeah, no, like I said, it's I wonder if that animal instincts is still in with that uh witch or whoever it is. Like, oh, it's still a bird, technically, right? Oh. And so because the dog is like much more of a aggressiveness. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 28:02

Predator-esque.

SPEAKER_01 28:03

Yeah, predator, uh, yeah, predator-esque. So, pop culture. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:09

Uh, there is a cartoon on Cartoon Network called Victor and Valentino. Uh, season one, I believe episode 13. The popular Cartoon Network series drew heavily from Mesoamerican mythology, featuring La Lachuza in epis in an episode to introduce a younger audience to the lore. In the episode, the main character gets taken by the Lechuza and brought back to its nest. He then discovers that the Lachuza has taken people and cares for them, feeding them and changing their diapers. It was like three or four adults, and they're all wearing diapers. And they're like, Yeah, mommy takes care of us. And it was it was really weird. This sounds like something that could have been on the on uh a chowder or something. It was in that same vein. Very much in that same vein. Sounds like it could have been. But the episode was called uh like the boy that cries lachusa or something.

SPEAKER_01 28:59

And so like he tripped and he's like, ow, I'm hurt, I'm blah blah blah.

SPEAKER_00 29:02

And then he accidentally, like, he actually gets hit by like a uh like a runaway like food truck type like cart, and it just like rolls over his leg and like breaks his leg, and then the lachusa snatches him up and takes him to his nest, like bandages him up and everything. Yeah. Um children's literature authors like uh Xavier uh Garza have incorporated the Lachuza into young adult and children's books, such as Creepy Creatures and other uh C-U-C-U-Y-S. Cuckies. Oh, oh it is what it is. Solidifying her is a staple monster in the regional children's literature. It's a Medazoo cartoon, of course. And uh finally, uh there is a m a short film called Lachusa uh from 2023. Okay. Okay. After after coming off my wonderful, wonderful week of movies. I saw four movies in theaters this week.

SPEAKER_01 30:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:01

Three of them with you. Absolutely. Um, I'm given every like when it's like, oh yeah, short short film, like fuck yeah, let's go. Like, look, we're gonna we're gonna watch it. Okay. Um, it was directed, written and directed by uh Miguel Martinez. Okay. Um, and this is the this synopsis. Gabby's life has ended. Her mother dies in front of her and she refuses to cope. The only people left in Gabby's life are her sisters who bring out the worst in each other. Upon learning how deep magic really goes, Gabby's curiosity gets the better of her and she attempts to cross the line and resurrect her dead mother. In the process, she unknowingly calls forth a Lechuza who unleashes hell upon everybody for their misuse of magic. The Lechuza takes on each individual or takes on each sister's individuality, exploiting their fears and insecurities. They have to battle their individual demons and come together to rescue their possessed adopted sister, Perry. Um, the blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb. Um, I watched it. Yeah. It's on YouTube. Um, very much that. Daughter refusing to cope. Um, story was cool. Acting was obviously it's like short. Like some of the like, hey, we're we need people, you know, you're getting paid in like wine coolers and pizza. Story was cool. The lachusa was terrifying. Okay. Like it was very like high mix between like woman bird, like woman face, bird face. Very should be descriptive. Doing all these like twisty motions with their hands and like contorting the girls and everything, or the women.

SPEAKER_01 31:41

Yeah, control okay, yeah. Yeah, like control, like controlling their blood.

SPEAKER_00 31:43

It was almost like a conjuring twist. Like, and they were like, ugh, like can't control themselves. Bloodbending. Yeah, pretty much. Exactly. Um, I will say, the the my one complaint with the movie, in terms of it being a short film, I understand your actors are new, everything else. They were given they're all applauding for them. I wish the movie, the mood lighting in the movie would have been darker.

SPEAKER_01 32:09

Oh, so this was just a lighting issue?

SPEAKER_00 32:12

It was completely a lighting issue. For a 15-minute short.

SPEAKER_01 32:15

So it was way too bright for what it was?

SPEAKER_00 32:18

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 32:18

So you think of like the the only thing I can come back to was literally obsession.

SPEAKER_00 32:25

No, no, no, no. Like the lighting in that was too good. The image of God.

SPEAKER_01 32:29

Oh, that one had good.

SPEAKER_00 32:31

Super dark, right? Yes. Super crazy light.

SPEAKER_01 32:34

You wanted it to be that dark.

SPEAKER_00 32:35

I want it to be that dark. Oh, okay. Like, I watched uh uh Milk and Cereal. That one's dark. Okay. Of course, obsession was dark. Yeah. Polar opposite, you have the back rooms, which was super bright. You know what I mean? In some instances it's dark, but like for that theme. For that theme and the darkness of the witchcraft and everything else that they're doing, that that that needed to be taken down like from where it was at, like, down to the fucking floor. Okay. Um, in terms of lighting. Like it was too bright.

SPEAKER_01 33:09

Now, was this one the short film? Was this more like unsettling, kind of eerie, or was it more like jump scares, killing, and like it was more unsettling eerie.

SPEAKER_00 33:19

Okay, yeah, so I can see that being the possession of the girls, stuff like that, the Lachusa like really trying to pit them against one another. Yeah. Um, yeah. Go watch it. It was it was fun. It's a quick, it's 15-20 minutes. It's worth it. Oh, okay. Um, support, you know, support our little people.

SPEAKER_01 33:39

I mean, to be fair, I think right now the four horror movies have all been directed by YouTubers. Oh, yeah, the big four right now. The big four, like Backrooms was by a YouTuber, Ireland's was by YouTubers, Obsession was YouTubers, and then uh there was another one uh that was YouTube. Uh I don't know if that one's out yet. It might not be out yet. It might not be out. I forgot which one that was. I th I don't think it was Leviticus. No. No, it wasn't Leviticus, it was something else. No. Um, but yeah, uh this year for movies, I'm not gonna lie, is honestly amazing.

SPEAKER_00 34:17

For like theater movies. You know what's crazy though, because now we have to make a movie. We gotta come off horrendous of a movie. Not coming off a horror movie. We have high.

SPEAKER_01 34:27

I'm not gonna lie, we have a good backlog of movie ideas.

SPEAKER_00 34:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:31

With all the stuff we've done. I mean.

SPEAKER_00 34:34

I wrote mine down. Oh, okay. I was in it, right? Okay.

SPEAKER_01 34:38

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 34:39

Hear me out. What are we doing? Welcome to our monster movie maker buff. We skipped the adventure. Did what? Oh, shit. Yeah, we did. I'll go back. We'll go back. I mean, shoot up. Now, we're gonna circle back to the what would you do. No, I feel like I feel like we we kind of I kind of glossed over it just because you know what the um well then how about we just don't do the what you what would you do?

SPEAKER_01 35:03

You know, we we can just skip it for this episode. You wanna you wanna just Since we're going off of a movie high, I feel like this should this segment should just be an extra.

SPEAKER_00 35:10

The monster movie maker moment's gonna be amazing. But okay, for the fans, for our people, because we said we'd do it, a what would you do scenario.

SPEAKER_01 35:18

So quick one. Quick quick one, alright? Absolutely. I got you. I already know what we're doing.

SPEAKER_00 35:23

You went down to the great state of Mexico. Okay. Great country of Mexico.

SPEAKER_01 35:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:32

We go to Mexico. Even worse. Staying at a resort.

SPEAKER_01 35:37

Right.

SPEAKER_00 35:38

And you're man, we are just pounding tequila shots. Just having the time of our lives, right? Yeah. You stumble outside. Okay? I am visibly more drunk than you. You're kind of like babysitting me at this point, right?

SPEAKER_01 35:53

Oh, hold on now.

SPEAKER_00 35:54

Yeah. I'd be drunk with you. I know you would be, but it at a certain point you saw me going too hard and you were like, I gotta back off because otherwise we're not making it back to the room. We're gonna we're gonna find ourselves like in the cartel's possession, it's not gonna be good. So you start like, you know, every two shots I took, you took one.

SPEAKER_01 36:13

I okay, if you're in a resort, they have a peace treaty of if you stay within the circle of the resort, yeah, okay. Good. But the moment you step out of it, you're you're all free. You're gonna be a few.

SPEAKER_00 36:26

Yeah, but that's that's my problem. Is I'm like, I want to go on an adventure. Oh, let's go check the city. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, I think. And you're trying to like get me back. And you we walk under a tree, and then the next tree you look up, and there is a seven-foot-tall owl with the face of a woman, and she's spreading her wings out, like she's getting ready to take off. Like at us, like eyes locked on.

SPEAKER_01 36:49

Immediate projectile vomit. Oh, that's all that Jaegermoister, all that salt, all that sugar. I wonder if that would count. You think sugar could be a good like replacement for salt? No. Alright, well, never mind. There goes my plan. Uh, okay. So we're walking. I see this thing. Do you see this thing? No, I'm trying. No, you're too you're too infinite.

SPEAKER_00 37:19

You're my best, you're my best friend. I love you. Where are we? I'm gonna kiss you on the mouth.

SPEAKER_01 37:26

Okay, I might have to just sacrifice like I might have to be like, ooh. Actually, I feel like it would go for me first. Why? Because eye to eye, if I like I make contact with it, it's like, oh, you're the you're the challenge.

SPEAKER_00 37:38

I mean, but yeah, you could very easily, like, as it's coming, just like shove me in front of you.

SPEAKER_01 37:43

I feel like it would still just knock you away and then come for me, and I'm like, nah, yeah. Uh, I don't know. I actually okay. I think I would just try to straight up fight it. I can easily dodge it. I've looked like I've practiced dodge rolls in real life, right? I can easily do that.

SPEAKER_00 38:08

Explain to me how you're practicing dodge rolls in real life. What are you doing?

SPEAKER_01 38:14

Coming off the high of Elden Ring, right? Playthrough, uh there's these bird type creatures, right? And I know how to I know how to dodge them.

SPEAKER_00 38:23

Very much the harpy-esque.

SPEAKER_01 38:25

Yes, exactly. Look, so you just right?

SPEAKER_00 38:28

And so, you know, so you're you're rolling forward dodging it.

SPEAKER_01 38:32

Yeah. Okay. Timing it, you know, it swoops, you know.

SPEAKER_00 38:37

And it just grabs me and takes me off. And then you and you live. In a horror comedy, as it hits me, I immediately start throwing up, and it's just like a trail. And I'm gone. Taken to a mountain lair to be either eaten or sacrificed.

SPEAKER_01 38:59

Thanks, Dan.

SPEAKER_00 39:01

Thought we're boys.

SPEAKER_01 39:02

I I don't think this was me giving you up. I think this was just a misplay on my cow. I think this was- I hit the wrong button. This was very much just an outplay. This is a mechanical error. Yeah. Alright, so.

SPEAKER_00 39:15

I mean, if she was on the other foot, if I see this thing, I'm pushing you one way and I'm going the other way. And I'm like, every man's for himself.

SPEAKER_01 39:24

Well, if you're gonna cross eye the maybe it like spirals down and like now, wouldn't it do it like the like an owl's head like doing the 180 of Oh, I hate that.

SPEAKER_00 39:41

I hate that idea of because you know, yeah, you like that human-esque head being able to turn 100 looking around. Uh that might have to be a scene in our monster movie.

SPEAKER_01 39:54

Yeah. So, I mean, truthfully, in the what you would you do, I don't really know how I would fight this thing. I mean, I would try to find the nearest thing to me and use it as like a weapon. Um I assume I would have a knife on me as protection, especially knowing that we're going to Mexico. Um it'd definitely be a bigger play than that, but it it would, you know, some form of.

SPEAKER_00 40:23

Absolutely. Yeah. Just leaving it? We can't take it on the plane.

SPEAKER_01 40:28

Um I mean, I guess if you had like a like a jacked bag. You could, but like, if I'm buying one there, I don't mind leaving it. You know? I gotcha. Like, I I seriously, like, if you I we need some type of production.

SPEAKER_00 40:44

Don't let me die.

SPEAKER_01 40:46

Damn. Don't let you. Don't let me die. What if this thing just overpowers me and then it's like I I tried my best, you know?

SPEAKER_00 40:54

Precious cargo. Don't let me die.

SPEAKER_01 40:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 40:58

Thank you. He's gonna let me die. It's okay.

SPEAKER_01 41:00

No, I'd kill him before the thing could kill him.

SPEAKER_00 41:04

Slit my throat. I start vomiting out my throat hole. Okay. Now we've wrapped that little shindig up. Um, welcome to the monster movie maker moment. Brought to you by State Farm. Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there. Um, context. We're talking about the uh the choosah of the Mesoamerican folklore.

SPEAKER_02 41:31

Context.

SPEAKER_00 41:33

Alright, I wrote my movie down. Do you have a movie idea? No. Okay, well, I wrote mine down because I was really in the to win it on this one. Okay. Coming off of our theater high of seeing so many wonderful movies in the last couple days. I'm thinking of almost like an it retelling. Like Pennywise the Dancing Clown, okay?

SPEAKER_01 41:56

Oh, but about the shoes. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 42:00

So you get into the folklore of it, all the adults are turning a blind eye to it just because they don't know how to deal with it. And there's a a group of kids, okay, and one of them goes missing. Yeah. Okay. Everybody's trying to figure out what the fuck happened. The police are no help. They're they're blaming XYZ, the cartels. They're doing in crime, a pedophile, whatever.

SPEAKER_01 42:25

Oh yeah. A lot of it would point towards the cartels and all that stuff.

SPEAKER_00 42:30

But so the kids are like, hey, we gotta figure this out ourselves. Like, we gotta save our friend. So they start putting two and two together, um, and like doing their research, blah blah blah, doing this, doing that, doing this, doing that. And well, they figure out it's the uh what they're deeming the lachuza. Okay. Um but I'm thinking with the opening, what I want to have is you see a drunk man like like kills a child, like the lachuza, what will become the lecheza, the woman, kills her kid. Okay, like he's drunk, maybe he's fumbling with his fucking gun or whatever. Just poof. Yeah. Accident, maybe not accident, whatever. And in her grief, she retreats into the mountains and then starts doing witchcraft to bring this kid back. Um, did you ever see uh the Bring Her Back from 2025?

SPEAKER_01 43:32

Bring her back.

SPEAKER_00 43:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:33

So it's I think I did.

SPEAKER_00 43:35

It's a move, it's a movie where a mom loses a kid and she's kidnapping these other kids in order to like have her daughter spirit possess them, and she's doing these crazy rituals. It's really fucked up, really creepy. So you have the group of kids that are dealing with this, like trying to find their friend. The Lachusa is trying to perform this ritual to put her child's soul back into a child's body so she can have. Her kid back. Right? Okay. I see what you're doing. All while she's like like doing all this like crazy, and I'm like making the the city like super conservative. We don't drink because of it. We don't do XYZ because of it. We don't go out at night because of it. Blah blah blah. Right? So the town is like okay, we don't super, super like when it's dusk, you go inside. And this one kid just happened to get caught out outside one night. Like she was a snatched in.

SPEAKER_01 44:28

Now I won't lie, a lot of people will have like protections like candles, the Virgin Water Bay, and all that. Those candles out and having a lot of I would say even you could have like grandparents. I'm I'm thinking that tells the story to the kids.

SPEAKER_00 44:43

Like or at least one grandmother. I was almost thinking of writing it as the kids are telling like so you have the cinematic of it actually happening. Yeah. And as the as she retreats into the mountains and becomes the bird, then it transforms the narration transforms into the kids telling the story, and they're in like a tree house together. Okay. Right? They're having the conversation back and forth, and then like they're like, oh shit, like the sun's going down. We gotta get back inside. And so like as the sun sets, they all disperse, and one of them is like, I gotta kill this fly. It's gonna piss me off. Come over here, motherfucker. Of course he disappears. He was somewhere over there. So the narration happens, the kids are the ones telling the stories. They're like, oh no, this like the sun's starting to go down, we gotta get inside. So they all disperse, so they all run back to their homes, except for one who's like, Oh, I forgot something. He goes back to get it and comes back, and as he's going down, the sun finally sets and loads just.

SPEAKER_01 45:40

Oh, you could you could even have it to where like maybe the scene is like he goes into the tree house, he gets it, and like the camera's panning, and it's just the latches in the like window of the tree house.

SPEAKER_00 45:51

Yes, and he just stands, like sits up and he's like, Yeah, and then it just and then yeah, cut the black, missing poster, blah blah blah. Yes, you know, oh Tommy's gone, we gotta find him. Um so the Lachusa in her mountain layer is trying to care for this person, for this kid, right? So she's bringing him food, she's doing all this kind of stuff, but she lives in the mountain like tunnel system. So like he's trying to get away, so he's exploring the tunnels, and it's just kind of going and finding him and dropping off food and whatever to try to keep him alive. And I'm thinking what it is is the ritual that she's performing, the participant has to be willing. Like, both participants have to be willing to accept what's gonna happen. The kids are never willing, right?

SPEAKER_01 46:40

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00 46:41

So, like at a certain point, they either grow out of the age limit of what her kid has to be in order to come back, or whatever, so she just kills them and eats them. So there's like bones everywhere where she's just been doing this on repeat, catching kids outside as she can. So the all the rest of the group starts putting two and two together. The Lachusa got them, they find the feathers, they find the this, they find the claw marks, they put it find the tunnels, all that stuff. They go up there and they try to find the tunnels. Um I would even say that I know go ahead. But they basically they they get up there in order to like get their friend and face down with it. Kind of like in in uh like in in in like in pen like with pennywise. And they basically like scream at it like, hey, it's like your kid's gone, like we're sorry, but like this isn't gonna bring him back. Like, just give her back her friend, and we'll let you live in peace, whatever, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, right. So eventually the Lachusa, the woman side of the Lachusa relents.

SPEAKER_01 47:45

See, okay, hold on. That one I hate. I I actually really hate the like yelling at it and all that stuff.

SPEAKER_00 47:52

Like, how even I don't even think it they would even be yelling at it. I think it'd be more of like the pleading with it.

SPEAKER_01 47:59

I I think what it could also, you could also try to do is like because they know its biggest weakness is like salt or either the seven knots, right? Is like maybe one of them is like I'm willing to transfer my soul. Like I'm willing to be the sacrifice, but instead, like they have salt all in them, or like in their pockets, pockets, or salt like balls or whatever, ready to throw at it, or something like that. And even like a necklace with like seven knots, yeah, right? And it's like, oh, I can't I can't do anything with it. Yeah, it's like I will be the willing uh participant as long as you give us a friendly.

SPEAKER_00 48:39

And almost like I kind of like that too, because you then you kind of have like the montage of them getting ready, loading salt.

SPEAKER_01 48:44

Maybe they're loading slingshots with like But one of them has to be like, okay, you're gonna be in like the the main Yeah, you're gonna be the main course for this thing. Yeah, it's like Yeah. Okay, I like that. Because they they but now they know I would say like the they have to fight back, right? Yeah. Because this thing is either willing, like it's realizing that no one's ever gonna be willing to trade their souls, and two And that could be kind of like the the flashbang moment for it where it's like, oh, somebody's willing.

SPEAKER_00 49:16

Like I have to like take this opportunity when I can.

SPEAKER_01 49:19

So like it it just pushes or whatever because it like she understands, the witch understands. Yeah, I would even say maybe it's in her witch form where she's talking. Maybe.

SPEAKER_00 49:28

See, I almost thought she'd never come out of the owl form. Oh, so it's like her face her face would keep kind of like shifting into like a half woman, half owl.

SPEAKER_01 49:37

The vocal chords. Yeah. Yeah. Because I know sometimes they can mimic the noises.

SPEAKER_00 49:43

I I would say too that she can talk, but it's in like uh like a weird hushed whisper. Very scratchy, scratchy, and all this kind of stuff. But I had this like super like so I like that. So they get ready, they make the extra necklaces, they have the slingshot with the salt and blah blah blah, and they're peppering it, doing whatever they do.

SPEAKER_01 49:59

I wouldn't even say, like, hey, we got a backup plan for the backup plan.

SPEAKER_00 50:02

It's like let's they get their friend out, whatever. Yes. The cheese can't can't do anything because they're they got this the the necklaces with the seven knots.

SPEAKER_01 50:11

I would even say, like, with the set like the the ritual is like, oh, I need your blood. She tries to go for it, and when she goes to like hold her, it like burns. Yeah. Or something like that. Because she's maybe coil. Maybe she's even put salt on her. He's like, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 50:26

There's a salt barrier on me, bitch.

SPEAKER_01 50:28

Like, I'm getting Yeah, it's like, oh, you just realized.

SPEAKER_00 50:31

I like that. I like that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:34

And then you get like a point to I would even say too, when they enter the tunnel, they have one position. It's like, okay, they put in a giant rope, right, with the seven knots. It's like, okay, we're putting the line of salt here. Yeah. This is where we need to make it, and then we're out.

SPEAKER_00 50:52

So I almost like it better that they think the Lachusa's out. Like. So they're barriering her home. Like, they're putting up a barrier to her home. We're salting the entrance to the tunnels. We're putting up the rope with seven knots. She won't be able to get in. But in fact, she's already in the tunnel system. Yeah. And I think that would kind of be like the saving, like, boom moment is they get out on the other side of the salt. In fact, that's what I was saying.

SPEAKER_01 51:18

They do that before they go into the tunnels. Is like, okay, this is where we're gonna go. We're gonna go into the main tunnel. But for from a race to the entrance. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 51:27

Yeah. But that, yeah. So you're like, storytelling-wise, though, the kids believe that the Lechuz is out.

SPEAKER_01 51:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 51:34

So they're like, hey, we're gonna this way we can just safely explore whatever, right? But I almost want them as they're exploring, like it being behind them in the shadows, like every time they turn a corner and they kind of move, right? And the flashlight moves over something, it just kind of tucks itself up ever so slightly. And it's just one of those like camouflaged in the darkness, you cannot see it, but it's watching you. And then at one point they move it over and they see the eyes reflecting back at them, like an owl's eyes do, and they're like, What the fuck is that? And then it that's when it starts kind of like trying to attack, but can't.

SPEAKER_01 52:08

Oh, you could even have it to where, like we said, it's like tucked into a corner, there's nothing. Yeah, and it you just see the head turn. It's like an owl, actual owl movement, yeah, and it's just the eyes piercing as the moves they go by, or whatever.

SPEAKER_00 52:22

Yeah, there there'd be some very, very interesting shots you could do in terms of like the tunnels and hiding for the Lachusa that would make it really kind of unsettling. But these kids are just like walking in here willing willy-nilly, thinking that they're protected. Yeah, you know, it's kind of like playing on that uh at when you're young, you think you're invincible. Yes. You know what I mean? Like nothing bad's ever gonna happen, and we have our whole life ahead of me. Yeah, too. We've prepped for this, our whole lives ahead of us, we'll be okay. We just gotta get so-and-so out, we have to wait till daytime so we can then get out. You know what I mean? Or maybe they get lost in the tunnel system and it's nighttime, whatever. But they end up finding the friend, gearing them up, they get out to the to the end, and I have this kind of like idea of um now. I have this idea of they get out and they escape. And it's like, okay, and the Lachusa's just sitting at the head, like the entrance of this cave as the salt's there, and then the storm comes through and rain hits, and it floods into the cave, and the salt dissipates, and then she's able to leave again. But then you would have a second movie after that.

SPEAKER_01 53:27

I would even say to some of the killings, you could have like maybe some of the adults or something like that, right? Yeah, one, like an owl. I don't know if you've seen how like silent an owl actually is, zero decibels, or like my even microphones cannot pick up an owl. Yeah. It's kind of like oh yeah. I would wanna I would wonder if this thing would actually have the same capabilities.

SPEAKER_00 53:52

Oh yeah, one and in this, because you could play with your sound effects so crazy, like, because you could do, I mean, literally like and like have that heavy bass hit, like that. Yeah, and then like and I mean you could even have it to where it was like decapitating people, like people that were out there in the streets.

SPEAKER_01 54:11

You could even say like some of the drunk like guys, maybe because of our past or whatever, the witch's past, is like, oh, like I just see this random junk, like one instance he's walking, and then like turns around, like maybe the uh the friends or whatever, it's like like looks behind and it's like hey, we're and then they look and it's just like his head's gone.

SPEAKER_00 54:32

Yeah, like it's oh yeah. I mean, you could even have like the local bar they're in their partying, and then one guy gets a little too rowdy, so they throw him out in the street, and then he's like, Oh they just look out there and it's just sprawled.

SPEAKER_01 54:46

Just oh no, I would even say like there's nothing and it's just the car, yeah. And it's just bam! Just his body right on the hood of it.

SPEAKER_00 54:57

Yeah. And I think that would kind of be a thing too, is like you could you could play it up to where like you could almost dial it up to where the city or the town gets more and more paranoid too. You know what I mean? Yes. So like as things are progressing and people are dying, it dials up, dials up, dials up. But while it's all happening, this kid's gone.

SPEAKER_01 55:19

Yeah, yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00 55:21

I see what you're saying. You know what I mean? So they're like, well, we we we have had an influx of travelers coming through the town, but like here, this kid's gone.

SPEAKER_01 55:29

Maybe with the ritual, like for the soul, it needs like more hearts. You could say like it's they're collecting like the witch is collecting hearts of like humans.

SPEAKER_00 55:38

Or maybe that's what it's trying to feed this kid. Just like here's a here's a an ar uh here's a liver and a heart. I just pulled it out of a drunk day.

SPEAKER_01 55:46

Oh, it has like the L mindset of everything. It's like, oh, here's all this. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 55:54

Yeah, but I just had this like really creepy, like these kids crawling up to this cave, getting into this cave, and as they're like trying to explore and like, you know, tummy, like they would move and then like because it's you know, kind of like almost like a like a web of tunnels.

SPEAKER_01 56:12

Um, but like they would move and then like it would well that's where it could start mimicking or like start like doing its like thing. Yeah. Or even when they're walking to and they see like a shadow pop out like from the corner of it, it's like, oh, I didn't know you like went ahead.

SPEAKER_00 56:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 56:29

And then the shadow gets bigger and bigger. It's like oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 56:33

Or it's like, do you hear a baby? Like, and it's just like echoing off into the distance where it's like throwing its voice down. Maybe even the cry of the friend. Oh, yeah. It's like it started. They get a little close and they have to like hustle up to get to their friend, and then it's not their friend, but it's the Lachusa.

SPEAKER_01 56:50

I would even say that it's trying to like lure them further into the tunnel systems and getting them involved.

SPEAKER_00 56:55

Yep, yep, absolutely. Yeah, but that would be kind of like a crazy like third act of the movie to where it's like you got to like these kids, and I and I hate to say kids, but kids, but like make them make them teenagers.

SPEAKER_01 57:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 57:12

But like make them uh I always kind of want to like Stranger Things like season four age, maybe yeah, like I kind of almost want it to be like the coming of age, like we survived a monster movie, you know what I mean? Like we survived an entity that we had no business dealing with. Yeah, of dealing with black magic and witchcraft, yeah. But I kind of want to just kind of have that twist of this is why the Luchusa did what she did, this is why she's doing what she's doing. She's uh an aggressive, vindictive, like I am out here for vengeance, and I'm trying to get my kid back, and I'm trying to perform this ritual to get XYZ. And I mean, you could do so much cool shit with an with a fucking owl. Like especially like a giant owl, like you could have him in a chamber, like she's trying to prep this the thing, and it's like glowing red, and only things that are reflecting white are the fucking eyes, like you can see sh see things in her eyes.

SPEAKER_01 58:11

Because isn't the owl's eye like yellow? Yeah, very yellow with a dark rim of black or whatever. Yeah, yeah, you just see that you highlight yellow. Neon yellow.

SPEAKER_00 58:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 58:24

Yeah. Absolutely. This could be even like a witchcraft-like universe of like in the same universe, like do other movies like the Ruguru and all that stuff. Anything that deals with the witchcraft, like Aze, all this stuff. It's just like we could actually interconnect all these different movies.

SPEAKER_00 58:40

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, especially with the the expansion of um in terms of like how Christianity has affected everything.

SPEAKER_01 58:50

But I mean, I mean, you're yeah, you're looking at like the or either like other cultures like meshing together, like you got like different um not witchcraft, but like magic from uh Africa dealing with native magic or and like rituals that they do, and it's like when they mesh, it creates something terrible.

SPEAKER_00 59:14

Terrible, you know. But I mean you just I d I I just have this idea of these like of just these shots of their walking, and then as they're walking by, that's when you kind of see the head down.

SPEAKER_01 59:28

Are any of the kids like are are you saying like are all the kids that are like the main ones, are they fine? Yeah, I'm gonna give this a PG 13. PG 13.

SPEAKER_00 59:40

Yeah. Something to kind of like get because like I didn't even know this was a rating.

SPEAKER_01 59:44

I just learned about this NC17. Yeah, NC17 gets a little wild. But I heard that one's less than rated R, apparently. It's less than rated R, but more than PG 13.

SPEAKER_00 59:55

I thought NC 17 was a good one.

SPEAKER_01 59:56

No, because obsession was about to be NC17, but the car scene made it rated R.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:03

Rated R allows allows minors in with an adult, whereas NC17 bans anyone under 17 entirely.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:11

Oh, so you got it backwards. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:14

Yep. Yeah, NC17 is so like I could take my oldest to have any what? Anyway. No, yeah. Well, I was able to take uh my oldest to go see backrooms, and that's rated R.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:28

But NC17. NC17, they'd be like, nah, he can't go in.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:32

He's too young.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:33

I gotcha.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:34

Yeah. Supposedly the director's cut is gonna be NC17 for obsession.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:38

Yeah, uh I don't side tangent thing, real quick. Uh uh. Give me apparently some people who've seen like the very, very first take of the movies, yeah. Uh the head smashing was actually a minute long. Spoiler. That's pretty that's pretty bad. But yeah. So like the the smashing part was like a minute. Like 40 seconds of just bang, bang. Yeah, so it was like brutality. Yeah, because the dude who who watched it was on a podcast was like, yeah, no, that that scene, it it was longer.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:16

That's crazy. They cut off like 20 to 30 seconds worth of like. That's crazy. But your movie, I can see playing around, like, okay, yeah, it it style of like origin. Like, we have good origins of it. The okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:36

And the and the other thing too, even with this, is you could even potentially even like really dive into the shape-shifting aspect of it, where it doesn't have to transform just between owl and woman.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:47

Like, you could have it transform into maybe even people, like it's it's like hunting, like it starts mimicking what they're doing, what they are, and then like yeah, possibly something of that sort.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:00

Well, there there's there's some I would like to spend a little bit more time. I would like to spend a little more time with the Lachusa folklore from people who have heard the stories. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, like that Reddit post was insanity that the Rottweiler is the thing that saved this baby from this thing. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 1:02:29

And honestly, like, yeah, I know but I feel like we should also play on that aspect of like um it's out instincts is like, oh, this is a dog. Like the dog is superior to me.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:41

But I I almost want it to have that that scope of like we're we're giving how do I put it's like in weapons. Still I haven't seen it. Sure. Yeah, no. We watch did we watch it? No, I wasn't here. Um Okay. I'm trying to think of a of a movie that is dealt with some kind of entity that was very much like it was almost it follows. No. You almost don't know that it is what it is until it reveals itself completely. No, because you even knew it was a monster in Jeepers Creepers. So, like, maybe maybe the Lachusa shows itself to the child in its woman form, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:03:32

So, oh okay, so you want this thing to be like, okay, you don't know what it is until later on.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:37

Until later on.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:38

Yeah, so it's like you see it as a woman form, you do this, you do that, and then at like a certain point you start seeing the more animalistic side of it, right? Maybe at the beginning you see it in the silhouette of it.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:49

Maybe the the kids that it's hunting is like coming around like as a woman, right? But like it like goes into the house, right? And the dog is just barking, barking, like and it's just like or the dog and her are just staring at each other. And it's just like that low. Yeah, the low growl is like, sorry, the day like uh Chico's never been like that before, you know?

SPEAKER_00 1:04:10

It's like, oh yeah, yeah. But then it like gets the kids alone and it's like, stop, you're never gonna find your friend. Oh and then that's what kind of like starts the the tweak of like leaving them after this this entity. And then like maybe and that might be a fun thing. He goes back, like in the opening, they tell the story, oh shit, the sun's going down. They go back, he goes back, and then he only sees the owl's eyes.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:38

You know, it would be a creepy uh scene too. What's that? Is like the woman's talking with some of the kids, like, of course, it's kind of like creepy or uncanny, right? And the turns around talking to someone else, and the kid's just like whatever, and like starts looking up towards like a mirror and sees the woman is like still looking that way, or like their bodies that way, but is like looking at the mirror towards them. It's like, and then she looks or he or she looks out of the way. And the kid just looks at them, and it's like completely normal, yeah. Just looking at the person talking to them. It's like it'd be like such a creepy scene of like playing with mirrors is always fun.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:17

Yeah, but to have that like owl-esque like neck turned around and then like snap back, you know, like you could do that in like her in woman form would be fucking crazy, you know? Like she and then she starts exhibiting all these kind of like animalistic qualities. Maybe like she has nails that are like long and sharpened, and she you know, like taps a lot, or maybe we have her eat like a lizard. I would even say like gosh, could you imagine like she's outside, like it's hot, they're talking to this woman, right? And then like uh she's like drumming her hand on something, and a lizard scurries by and she just and then just like eats it real fast.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:55

It's like you know, just like the owl neck tilt. Like because isn't an owl just like immediately like just swallowing. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, yeah, the the head playing with the mirrors, everything. Ooh. Nah, that's creepy.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:10

Yeah. I mean, yeah, you I mean you could very easily dial that one up to R if you wanted to, but I was thinking like solid PG, solid PG 13. Let's get some younger people into some horror movies. Here you go. It's the Lachusa. Um, you know, we'll just we'll I don't know what the fuck we'll name the movie. Um some younger actors and actresses, and we'll just let them let them fucking try to figure out this mystery of who took their friend. And then there's a shape-shifting, devil-worshipping witch woman that is part out.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:44

I wouldn't even say like woman of and then the name after the town, like woman of, like blah blah blah blah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:52

The woman of Arlen, Texas. No. I mean, Lachusa already kind of has a ring to it anyway.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:00

Yeah. Woman of Charusa.

unknown 1:07:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:03

So, possibly, but I don't got anything for this.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:06

I was just gonna piggyback off of yours, of course.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:08

I mean, you did a fantastic job. You added some very, very creepy context to mine. Some very imagery, yeah, some very good imagery, some scenes.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:17

Absolutely. But I think that's pretty much it for the Ghosts and Ghouls podcast and the monster movie maker moment. Uh, if you enjoyed, please go ahead and leave a like, go ahead and subscribe, hit that bell for any notifications to stay updated for when we post, as well as follow us on our other platforms, Instagram, TikTok, and uh, of course, we got links in the description. Share with your friends to help us out, as well as sharing. Uh very much appreciated. And uh as always, if you're watching from the monster movie maker moment videos up here, go to the podcast to learn about the La Chusa, as well as a crazy Reddit story. Um so and if you're watching from the somebody survived and if you're watching from the podcast, thank you guys. And uh yeah, that's pretty much it. That's it. That's it, that's all I got. That's all you got. That's all I got. Go to some ghouls. Can you edit me into like the owl turnaround? Like, no. I don't know how to do that. Okay, never mind. I don't know how I would. I'm an easy to learn. It's like a bad PNG of your body still framing and just your head can be moving. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:32

I'll have to figure that out.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:36

Hey creepy people.