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The Devil Is Real | Ghost & Ghouls Ep 29 | Season 1
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Have you ever wondered what inspired one of the most terrifying horror stories ever told? Before it was made into book, before spinning heads and demonic possession became horror movie staples, there was a real teenager whose case shocked priests, terrified witnesses, and remains one of the most controversial paranormal stories in American history.
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Have you ever wondered what inspired one of the most terrifying horror stories ever told? Before it was made into a book, before spinning heads and demonic possessions shocked Hollywood. There was a real teenager whose case shocked priests, terrified witnesses, and remains one of the most controversial paranormal cases in American history. Some believe he was possessed by a demon, maybe more. Others insist he might have been a troubled teenager pulling off an elaborate ruse. On this episode, we're diving into the truth. Welcome to the Ghost and Ghouls podcast. I'm your host, Tyler, and with me I have the guy that keeps telling me that I'm his ghoul friend, my co-host Anthony. That was fucking smooth.
SPEAKER_00What? My ghoulfriend. You guys don't know how many takes we did. True.
SPEAKER_01Patreon knows. Um, if you're new here, this is how this works. I tell my friend Anthony here a fictional horror story about a ghost ghoul, extraterrestrial, paranormal entity, cryptid monster slash terrifying thing, where I've removed the name of the creature from the story and replaced it with descriptions. Then Anthony gets to guess what we might be talking about this week. After that, we go over its history, and then we do what's called running the gauntlet, where Anthony here gets to go through a choose your own adventure story, which he has a zero success rate at. No, I'm just kidding. Yeah, I was about to say. He's done pretty well. His survival skills are pretty up there. If uh if you were in a horror movie with Anthony, listen to him, he'll get you out alive. Hopefully. Maybe not tonight. But we will run the gauntlet where Anthony will go through a choose your own adventure horror story. And uh yeah, see if you can make it out on the other side.
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SPEAKER_01You can talk to us. I'm always on Discord. So, after that little rant, Anthony here gets a little shot in the dark guest based on our little intro. So, what do you think we're talking about?
SPEAKER_00Uh, so it was based off of a real tragedy. Mm-hmm. Okay.
SPEAKER_01Yep. Base so no, no, no. Well, the story's based on yes.
SPEAKER_00Oh.
SPEAKER_01Um, but no, this is a real thing that happened to a real teenager that might have been um taken and used for something that became probably the most one of the most notable horror franchises.
SPEAKER_00Oh, paranormal activity. Nope. What? No. That is that is the most notable.
SPEAKER_01No, that is there's a book. Oh. The most Is it the Exorcist? You're close.
SPEAKER_00Well, okay, I'm not gonna do any guesses. That's I actually don't know. I I like knowing the true names of everything is it I don't know.
SPEAKER_01The true name of the Exorcist, like what inspired the Exorcist? I literally only would know. I have it right here. This is our July book club book of the month. I've read it. It's graphic.
SPEAKER_00I haven't started.
SPEAKER_01I'm not gonna lie to you. It took me a second to fall asleep after this guy. Like, it ends it well, we'll talk about it at book club. Yeah, so you don't know the name of the person that the Exorcist is expired on. No. Like, inspired by.
SPEAKER_00No, you said T. I'm assuming it's a girl, right? Okay. I'm just basing it off of the movie, I'll be real. Okay.
SPEAKER_01We're gonna get into this. Okay This story is called The Devil is Real. March 1949. The room smelled of candle wax, sweat, and rain. Outside the hospital window, a storm rolled across the night sky, rattling the glass with every burst of thunder. Inside, six men stood around a hospital bed. In the center lay a thirteen-year-old boy. Leather restraints secured his wrists and ankles. His eyes were closed, and for a moment he looked peaceful. Then his chest rose sharply. His eyes snapped open. The room temperature seemed to plummet. Father Bowtern stepped forward, clutching a crucifix. Can you hear me, son? He asked quietly. The boy's gaze drifted towards him. A grin slowly spread across his face. It wasn't the grin of a frightened child. It was a grin of something that enjoyed fear. He's not here, the boy replied. The voice was wrong, deep and old. The priest exchanged nervous glances with one another. The ritual began. Latin prayers filled the room. The words echoed off the walls like distant thunder, and for several minutes nothing happened. Then the bed began to shake. One leg lifted from the floor, and another. The entire frame rattled violently. A nurse gasped. The mattress lurched several inches across the room. The restraint strained as the teenager's body twisted unnaturally. His back arched. A guttural growl erupted from his throat. The candles flickered, one extinguishing itself. Then another, then another. Only the crucifix remained slightly illuminated in the dim light. And the child began laughing. Not a child's laugh, but a cold, mocking sound. You think your prayers matter? The voice hissed, and the walls began to creak. Somewhere inside the room, something scratched slowly and deliberately. Scratch, scratch. The sound came from beneath the bed. Follower Hollerin knelt and looked underneath. Nothing. The moment he stood, the scratching resumed, louder and closer, as though invisible fingers dragged across the floorboards. Their prayers continued. The young boy's head jerked violently from one side to another. Red marks appeared across his chest. At first they looked like scratches, then they deepened. The priest watched in horrors as lit letters slowly emerged on his skin. No hands touched him. No objects came near him. Yet the marks continued to form a message, three words. Leave him alone. The room fell silent. Even the storm outside seemed to pause. Then every window in the room exploded inward. Glass showered across the floor. The candles went out. Darkness swallowed everything. A scream erupted from the shadows. Not from the boy, not from any of the men present. Something else, something hidden and furious. Lightning flashed outside. And for an instant, Father Holleron thought he saw a figure standing in the corner. Tall and thin, its face hidden by darkness. Then the light vanished and the figure was gone. The ritual stretched on for weeks. Night after night, the same battle, the same fear. Objects moved without explanation. Furniture shook. Staff reported hearing voices in empty hallways. Several refused to enter the teenager's room after sunset. One orderly claimed he saw the child standing beside his bed while simultaneously lying in it, asleep. Yet no one believed him. He quit the very next day. On the final night, the storm returned, the strongest yet. Thunder shook the hospital. Rain hammered the windows. The priests gathered once more. The exhausted boy appeared pale and worn down, but something still watched through his eyes. And the prayers began again. For hours they continued. Every response from the entity grew weaker. Every insult sounded less certain. The laughter faded, the rage began to diminish. Then shortly before dawn, the teenager teenager suddenly sat upright. His restraint snapped. His eyes widened. He stared at something above the bed. Something no one else could see. A low roar filled the air. The walls vibrated, the windows rattled, and then the boy spoke. Not in his monstrous voice, but in his own. He's leaving. The roar became a scream. A deafening, inhuman scream that seemed to come from every direction at once. The candles reignited, the temperature rose. The pressure in the room vanished. Then silence. Absolute silence. The boy collapsed onto his bed. The priest waited. Seconds passed. Then minutes. Finally, the teenager opened his eyes. Confusion across his face. Why is everyone staring at me? He asked. No one could answer. Several men simply wept outside the storm had ended. And for the first time in months, dawn sunlight broke through the clouds. And whatever had haunted this child was finally gone. Okay.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, this this is definitely based off of the exorcist. Or this created the exorcist. Very much so. Um, however, I don't know the name of I would say you're looking for the name of the boy. I I'm gonna say like Sam. Nope. Oh.
SPEAKER_01So this so this is not his actual name. His actual name, people have speculated what it might be might have been. I've done some research, trying to figure it out. Oh, so they don't know. This is the exorcism of Roland Doe. Oh, okay. So, in the late 1940s, a German American family living in Cottage City, Maryland began experiencing events they could not explain. At the center of the story is a 13-year-old boy, later known to the public as Roland Doe. For decades, his identity remained secret. According to family accounts, everything changed shortly after the death of his beloved aunt, Harriet. Harriet reportedly had a deep interest in spiritualism and had introduced her nephew to a Ouija board. Not long after her death, in 1949, strange things allegedly began happening inside the family home. Scratching sounds echoed through the walls, footsteps seemed to move through empty rooms, objects shifted without explanation, and most disturbing of it all, the boy's mattress reportedly began moving on its own. At first, the family assumed there had to be a rational explanation. But as the activities intensified, they started fearing something far worse. And, according to some witnesses, the most frightening events hadn't even begun. So that's actually his favorite ant passes away. That's actually insane. Spiritualism.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Introduced to the Ouija board. Yeah. The Ouija board being a biggest thing. Like I'm not a key. Okay, my stance on the Ouija board is very much like I don't believe in it as much, especially if people use it for like ghost hunting and all this stuff. It's just like that's the one equipment that I actually hate seeing. Oh, and they're like, let's pull up the Ouija board guns! Because it's like a lot of them just like, are you pulling it? Like, are you pulling it? Like, are you pulling it? It's like, yeah, like someone could actually just be lightly moving it, and it's just like, okay, really? It's like so even the dousing rods.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I actually understand the dousing rods, but then I found out that plumbers use them. Yeah. Or electricians. Uh-huh. Plumbers do. It was the plumbers. Yeah, they use it. Water. Yep. And I was like, oh, that okay. So if you're above like ley lines, and usually ley lines are above streams of water that are underneath the earth. Yep. It's like, oh, well. Very much so. So it's kind of I don't know. But again, my stance on the Ouija board is very much, I don't believe in it.
SPEAKER_01The the I'm kind of in your ballpark when it comes to the Ouija board. Because I'm like, Ouija board, okay. I don't like it when it comes out in haunt like invest in like paranormal investigations. And it was originally like a board game produced by I think it was like Mattel. Yeah. So it's like, okay, we got a big, we get alright, big hit. What gets me about it though is time after time after time after time, so many things link back to this thing. So once again we get into the debate. Yeah. Does the belief in it make it real?
SPEAKER_00This is what I was about to say. I think it's literally your belief. You put power into your words. Like, okay, if we're all sitting here and we all think something is connecting to it, it's like, oh, then something is using that belief as a key to get through the veil of some sort of.
SPEAKER_01The other uh kind of big takeaway from uh the Ouija board is the power of suggestion. So I'm saying that we're opening a realm and I'm suggesting to you that things can move through this thing and do all these other things. Yeah. And maybe subconsciously you're moving it and you're not even realizing it. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_00Oh, it's like, okay, every little like sound, like the house like curling or this, that, boom, boom, boom, it's something in the wall. It's kind of like how when you like, okay, you gotta manually blink. Like your body's blinking. It's like, oh, wait, yeah, when you're conscious, like oh, like you're conscious of those those things, yeah.
SPEAKER_01So absolutely. You can mess with a mind like that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Um so seeking answers and desperate for help, the family consulted doctors, psychiatrists, and religious leaders, and no one could explain what was happening. Eventually, they turned to their Lutheran minister, Reverend Luther Miles Schultz. Schultz reportedly spent time observing the teenager and became concerned enough to recommend seeking help from the Catholic Church. Soon, uh, Father E. Albert Hughes became involved. After receiving permission from the church authorities, Hughes arranged an exorcism at Georgetown University Hospital. It was the first serious attempt to rid the teenager of whatever force his family believed had taken hold of him. What happened during the ritual would become one of the most famous moments in the entire case, but decades later, investigators would question whether it happened at all. So, the failed exorcism. According to the traditional account, the teenager was restrained during the ritual. As prayers continued, he allegedly slipped one of his hands free, then in a sudden burst of violence, he reportedly ripped a metal spring from beneath the mattress and slashed Father Hughes. So he slipped a restraint, plunged his arm underneath, ripped a metal bedspring out, and cut the dude. Holy crap. The ceremony ended immediately, the exorcism failed. Whether the attack happened exactly as reported remains a matter of debate, but one thing is certain, the family believed that the situation was getting worse. Soon afterwards, mysterious scratches reportedly began appearing on the teenager's body. Some witnesses claimed they formed messages. One message in particular would convince the family to leave everything behind and travel hundreds of miles to St. Louis. Lewis kept appearing on his skin. L-O-U-I-S kept appearing on his skin. That's crazy. Or you're in a hospital bed, right? And this is kind of the other thing, too. I looked at like what it takes to get an exorcism, right? Oh, it takes a lot. Oh yeah. I was I was not ready for you gotta have psyche vows, physicals, and this and that. They're doing MRIs and x-rays and all this kind of stuff. They're ruling out every possible typically.
SPEAKER_00Believe it or not, I'm actually very much known to this part because of like I was like, exorcisms were like, this is amazing. Like I would love to know more about this. And I learned that like a lot of religious leaders, like especially like fathers or whatever, they would actually get people of like just doctors who are atheists. They would look for atheists to be like, hey, can you go ahead and look at this person out, everything you possibly can before we even because they had to send in word to the uh Vatican, or not just the Vatican, but whoever there's like a hierarchy that they have to go up this chain. And sometimes when they don't sometimes, if it's like truly bad, the father would be like, Okay, we're gonna perform an emergency exorcism. We gotta get it done. I gotta help. I think it was one of the stories, I forgot which one it was, but they went through like all these doctors, especially one of them becoming an atheist who or who was an atheist, and then it became a religious like believer.
SPEAKER_01It was just like what they were saying, yes.
SPEAKER_00But um, I believe it was um exorcisms. I I actually truly do believe. Uh, because one of the most prof like one of the most notable ones is um and the one I'm talking about, it's still on YouTube. You can listen to it, and when you do listen to it, your entire phone actually breaks. Like it it shuts down. Your phone shuts down.
SPEAKER_01That's crazy.
SPEAKER_00Because you you hear demonic like Latin or whatever, because the per like you'll hear the father like I I think doing its normal verse or whatever, but then you'll hear the lady start talking in tongue or whatever, uh Latin most likely, and then it's just your phone starts shutting.
SPEAKER_01Interesting.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, because it's like it's so much, but it's very like it's unnerving to listen.
SPEAKER_01So I actually I so in the rabbit hole of doing this, I actually watched where ABC did an exorcism. Oh shoot, like super religious town, girl, teenage girl, blah blah blah, and they did the exorcism, and I mean she was like biting at people, like I mean, she looked disturbed. Yeah. Like you could see in her eyes that it was like it was, it was something was going on there that could not be explained. I got you.
SPEAKER_00You know, I kind of understand why a lot of people uh you you know, I I f not to get into A lot of big big religious or whatever, like for like uh I think it's what is it, Muslim not eating pork? A lot of religions don't eat pork. Because I could have sworn in one of the testaments, like Jesus had like sent a person ex or something. Yeah, he was into it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so he was dealing with somebody who was possessed, and he asked the demon what their name is, and that's where the uh I uh we are legion comes from. Yeah. And then he was like cast them out, and he casted like 700 some odd devils, demons out into the pigs, and the pigs went insane and ran off a cliff and died.
SPEAKER_00I was sitting there thinking, I was like, I wonder if that's why they don't eat pork is mostly because they're like afraid of like demons who were cast out.
SPEAKER_01So I I think actually the reason they don't eat pork, because there's a a list of things that they don't eat. It's uh the anything that has two hooves that doesn't eat chud or something like that, which is like grass. Yeah. Um, they don't eat fish that don't have scales or bottom bottom feeders because they're dirty. So like pigs are out because they're dirty animals. Uh shellfish like lobsters, crabs, are out because they eat they're dirty animals. Uh bottom feeders like catfish and and fish like that that don't have scales, they don't eat. Um, and I I think that's kind of like where a lot of the that kind of comes from is it being dirty animals versus like demon animals. But I like it better that like Jewish people don't eat, don't eat, or you know.
SPEAKER_00I I would say because like, oh, they're afraid of the one of the demonic spirits that Jesus had casted out being in one of the I feel like that's a lot better. It's a little more flavorful. It's a little bit definitely more flavorful to display.
SPEAKER_01That would be a really fun, like, dark comedy movie where if you had somebody get possessed because I ate too much bacon. Oh, he ate the like the cursed like ham biscuit and just started peeping. What demon do you have? Oh that's throwing out his.
SPEAKER_00I ate this bacon and now I have Esmodius in the city.
SPEAKER_01Yellzebubbis just poking my butt. So the family traveled to St. Louis, Missouri, where relatives helped connect them with the Jesuit priests of the St. Louis University. Among them were F about Fall of Father William Bowden. Bowden? Bowern? Bowdern. Father, Raymond Bishop, and father Walter Holleron. These men would become the primary witnesses to the most famous phase of the case. According to their accounts, the teenager seemed perfectly normal during the day, but after dark, everything changed. The priest described violent outbursts, trance-like states, objects moving around the room, and a growing hostility towards religious symbols. The more they observed, the more convinced they became that this was not an ordinary psychiatric case. What happened during the exorcism that followed would make the headlines that inspired books and eventually helped create the most famous horror film ever made, The Exorcist. But first, disturbances became a little bit more extreme. So, after going through all this, they finally get permission to perform the formal exorcisms. Here we go. This ritual stretched on for weeks. Night after night, the priests gathered around the teenager. According to reports, he screamed obscenities, he allegedly displayed unusual strength. Witness claims scratches appeared upon his body while prayers were being recited. Some even believed that markings carried messages. Father Walter Holleron later recalled being injured during one violent episode. The strain on everyone involved became immense. As the situation escalated, the teenager would um was moved to the the teenager was moved to Alexian Brothers Hospital. The priests hoped that the hospital would provide a safer environment. Instead, they claimed that some of the most disturbing events of the entire case occurred there, and it was inside that hospital that it finally reached its end. So, this started January 1940. What did I say? January 1949, right? They've been going through all this. Okay? It's now April. January, February, March, April. We're four months deep into this. Dealing with the possession. Dealing with this possession. We've uprooted our family. We've moved away. We've moved hundreds of miles from Maryland to St. Louis. We're doing all this stuff. Yeah, I'm just gonna say this.
SPEAKER_00Fucking weak demon can't even possess a teenager. Like, dude.
SPEAKER_01So the final night, the evening of April 18th, the Monday after Easter of that year. According to traditional accounts, the teenager entered another violent trance. The priest gathered around his bed and c continued the ritual. This time they invoked Saint Michael the Ark the Archangel. Witnesses later claimed the teenager shouted, screamed, and resisted the prayers, and suddenly everything stopped. Just like that. Boom. Stopped. The room fell still, silent. Moments later, the teenager opened his eyes and quietly spoke a few words. He is gone. According to those presents, the strange behavior ended immediately. No more trances, no violent outbursts, no mysterious scratches. For the priest, the battle was over. But the biggest question of all remained unanswered. What had they actually witnessed? So some accounts said that he's the teenager said that he had a vision of the devil and the arch the archangel fighting. Uh-huh. And that the angel won. And then that's when he woke up. I got you. I could only find that in like a couple like loose out there kind of things. So I'm like, okay, like these are kind of dramatizations of what happened.
SPEAKER_00But uh now I I don't understand to this is where I'm very, very like, what's the word? Skep skeptical? Skeptical. Uh being everybody says, oh, it was the devil, oh, it was the devil. It's like, yeah, was it truly the devil or was it like a different type of demon? And like, do they have would hell have its own like hierarchies and anything? You know what I'm saying? I don't know. We can't visit. Yeah, let me die for seven seconds and then we'll leave.
SPEAKER_01So I think you know what I'm saying? Because it would literature-wise, to in when it comes to devil and the ain, you know, you have a hierarchy of angels in heaven. It would not surprise me if there is a hierarchy of devils and demons in hell based on your Judeo-Christian heaven, the the big split, and then the angels coming from heaven and being cast to earth, yeah, and having to live the way they did, and being in put in hell, and then he said.
SPEAKER_00But like again, and and the reason why I say this is because the devil himself, right, is the leader of hell or was given that title cast out. Like, does he like why would he possess just a random kid? You know, oh yeah, you know, instead of doing like more noticeable figures or something like that. You know, why would he wouldn't he just send someone else to go like, hey, go do this? Like possess this, but like go possess, blah blah blah blah. I get I yeah, I get what I know what I'm saying. It's kind of like he's got better things to do. Yeah, why would a boss send, you know, do it himself, unless maybe to get back at God, of course, but like I don't know.
SPEAKER_01My take on that would have to be if the devil wanted to show discourse, what better person to do it than himself, right?
SPEAKER_00Uh kind of like if you you know, no one's gonna do it better than me.
SPEAKER_01No one's gonna do it better than me. And I think part of the devil's legacy is the ego of self. Okay. Yeah, the pride, yeah. You do it for you, it's your reality, it's your this, you know. Be, you know, be the person you want to be, not the the community, not the person the community needs you to be, or your family needs you to be. Yeah. You know, and that's kind of where a lot of times I you know, I kind of get into like the uh philosophical arguments of you know, being a father, being a husband, stuff like that. And you know, people are like, oh, well, my husband doesn't do anything like that for me. And that's like your husband kind of selfish. Like, you know, like there are moments like that where it's like, yeah, like you're you're dealing with with selfish people, and that's that can be tough, you know. Um, but at the same time, like getting back to what we're talking about, you know, the devil, who's gonna do it better than the devil himself? Now, this is the other thing too, researching, like looking into demonology and devils and all this kind of stuff, and these kind of like religious kind of stuff, like it seems to me like you got Lucifer, you got Asmodeus, you got Beelzebub, you got the devil, you got like there's a bunch of these guys.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, well, there's one it was he wasn't the only angel. Oh, yeah, no, no, no. He was one of the founding angels. Yeah, he took a big chunk of them with him. Yeah, he's he he basically because I think the first sin that they said was basically, you know, Lucifer himself was made out of these beautiful instruments, and then he looked at a reflection of himself and was just like, I'm him. Because it's like that's when so they say, but again, I was just like, why would you know, and it makes sense, okay, if anybody's gonna try to like disturb God's creations, it's gonna be me, because no one else can do it better than I can, you know.
SPEAKER_01So now brings us to the debate. For decades, researchers have tried to separate fact from legend. Author Thomas B. Allen studied surviving records that concluded the definite proof that possession simply just does not exist. Researcher Mark uh Opsna Opsnik, Opsas. Mark, you have a really hard last name. Opsnaznick. Mark O argued that many parts of the story were exaggerated and that the teenager may have deliberately created some sort of reported phenomenon. Skeptical investigator Joe Nichol reached similar conclusions. He believed that the events could be explained by trickery, emotional distress, and the expectations of those involved. Suggestion. Even Father Walter Holleron, one of those priests who participated in the exorcism, refused to definitely declare that the teenager's possession later in life. Yet, believers point to the number of witnesses and the consistency of the many reports and convictions of those who experimented the first the events firsthand. And that's what makes this case so fucking enduring. You have so many doctors, so many nurses, so many priests, the people involved, the family, it kept it alive.
SPEAKER_00I can I can only imagine that the people that weren't involved wouldn't just want to say, oh, it's like a placebo effect. You know, they just said, oh, he was possessed. It's like, well, that's why they search for people who don't believe in possessions to be like, hey, is this a possession? Yep. Or do the does this guy, is he like an illness or disease? Like, what's wrong?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Because I mean Oh yeah, no, I'm right there. Yeah. Right there in that same level.
SPEAKER_00This is why I can heavily believe in exorcist. Yeah, like or a possession and the exorcism.
SPEAKER_01So, more than 70 years later, no one can say with certainty, except for those few people involved, yeah, what happened in those rooms in 1949? Was it a demonic possession? Was it something psychological? Was it an elaborate hoax? Elaborate hoax? Could have been. Whatever the truth may be, the story became the inspiration for the exorcist and remains one of the most debated paranormal cases in modern history. So, a question to the viewer. What do you think actually happened to Roland Doe? Do you think he was possessed? I kind of think he was.
SPEAKER_00I I think he was. Now, the other thing that he could possibly be is probably the um multiple personality disorder. You know, maybe he had an another personality that was like in heavily aggressive. That that's the only other possible thing I could think of.
SPEAKER_01Okay, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00You know, but to me personally opinion, I he was very much possessed. Um I do believe in possessions.
SPEAKER_01Now I'm curious, because um I did read that what a lot of the reports came from were the journals that the priests kept. Which is kind of one of those other things too, because then you have you have people, the witnesses, like the nurses and the doctors and all this kind of stuff, because a lot of this stuff happened in the hospitals. Yeah. Like all of it happened in fucking hospitals. But you take all that, you line it all up. What I'm really curious is, was it the devil or do they have another name?
SPEAKER_00That's what like another like demon? Yep. Like a different demon or whatever lesser. That's kind of how I was thinking. I was always thinking it's like, and if it was the devil, it's like, you know, it for being so powerful, why couldn't he possess a teenager in those months?
SPEAKER_01And the and this is well, he did.
SPEAKER_00Well, it doesn't seem like a full possession, almost. It feels like it's still like trying to get, you know what I'm saying? Because there I feel like they're still for him to get restrained and for him to still be down like that, and and then them doing the exorcism and self and then being able to pull him out like that, it feels like it was incomplete, you know?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, which I mean, if you take a lesser demon or a lesser devil and you kind of have like, hey, go do this, pretend to be me. Like, I'm the devil himself. Or just people believe it's the devil because or I mean, what the devils what what what is the biggest thing they ever do? Fucking lie. You know what I mean? Like they lie. Devils are meant, they're they are lying little shits. They lie all the time. They're gonna try to mislead you.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so now you could also say maybe because of the possessions, that be if they are incomplete, it's due to the soul. Maybe God had created us with the soul in mind, right? To have its own layer of protection from any kind of possession, you know? Like a little barrier, you know. Maybe it's like, you know, got our own shield. I can see that. Yeah. Um, now again, I I'm we're not I'm not very religious, but I do believe in God and in Jesus and all of his followers.
SPEAKER_01So I'm gonna I'm gonna bring this up real quick. Okay. Okay. And this is the other part of possession that kind of fucks me up. Okay. Do you know the demon's name in this book that possesses?
SPEAKER_00You told me before. I forgot. Okay. It wasn't it like it's Pazuzu. That's what I was thinking of Pazuzu, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Pazuzu. Yeah. Okay. I'm like, okay. Pazuzu. Whatever.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01We got it off some fucking Sanskrit in the in the desert from the Middle East. Okay, it's a it's a fucking name, whatever. Okay. I want to say in North Carolina, the house has been demolished since.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_01There was a guy who I think saw this movie way too fucking young. And that shit possessed him. Oh. Like he was murdering people. Like his house was like a like a straight up like possession heroine den. I'm a hold on. Let me let me look it up real quick. I want to make sure that I got the that's wild. Of course I can't.
SPEAKER_00Truthfully, I think this all boils down to the like power of belief. I just want to say.
SPEAKER_01Here it is. So this is a news article from 2014, October 2014-ish, right? Okay. It's super short, so I'm gonna read it. Uh, Clemens, North Carolina, greeted with the cheers from neighbors. Work crews demolished the so-called Clemens House of Horrors, located at 2749 Knob Hill Drive. Construction site on Friday was much more than a demolition zone. It was a sign of relief and a path set, uh a path setter for the future of neighbors in the community. Several people set up camping chairs outside the house to celebrate its destruction. Some are smiling ear to ear. It was the day in particular the community had been awaiting for six months, ever since the skeletal remains of two men were found buried in shallow graves in the backyard in October. Last of the house is finally down. Neighbors say they can finally move on with the healing process. Can you feel the peace? It's like when you take a big deep breath and count in ten, like right after you get a massage. That whoa wow. So Lauren Hearst, who lives across the street. They're finally gonna have some peace and calmness. So, let me see if I can find the dude. These were the people that were living inside, right? See that dude's face? Yeah, it is all trash, pentagrams, graffiti, like super like devil heads and everything else, right? Like, just hyper, hyper like the front door, like super house of horror style, like he had Satan tattooed on his forearm. Yeah. Yeah, he called himself Pazuzu Al uh Algarad. Yeah. And he murdered two people in devil worship in the basement of the home.
SPEAKER_00I don't think he was possessed. I think he was just a fucking like insane.
SPEAKER_01I think he I think he was nuts, but I think he saw the exorcism way too early and just got lost.
SPEAKER_00I think this was like a uh a case of the like the Slender Man or those girls killed because I don't think he was actually possessed by Pazuzu. No, no, no. I don't think he was possessed by anything. I think he was literally just he saw the movie at like a suggestible age, yeah, but like was like you know, and it's just like I clearly think he was just fucking like he definitely a pure evil man. Yeah. You know? So that's um Yeah. Pazuzu Allegrad. Yeah, I don't I don't know. Uh again, I I get this all boils down to the power of belief, you know, whether or not like especially during an exorcisms, I feel like if it's the priests, if they truly believe, like with the words that they say to get him out, that carries the strength of actually releasing the demon. Like getting him out. Same thing for if if they don't believe, right? If they're like, oh, this is never gonna work, yeah, it's like, oh, they're gonna fail. Ugh. You know, it's that's just kind of how I think. Um or if you it's almost like the case of when there is a demonic entity in your house, like you don't even need to say a verse, you don't need to say anything, you just tell them, like, get out, like leave my house now. This is my house.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, the power of the power of commandment. Yeah, like yeah, like I'm gonna command you to go do this, like get the fuck out.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, because I remember someone also said too that they said, in like, in Jesus' name, this is my house, my domain, leave now. And then once they said that, it like stopped everything, everything like opened up, like all the cabinets all like blew up, like basically just opened up, everything crashed to the ground and then stopped. Yep, and then left. It was like it just happened all at once, and then boom. It was just like well, if that's the case, right?
SPEAKER_01And if you remember last week we talked about the the was it the Snedeker family?
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Like, do you think Alan Snedeker was like, I command you to do butt stuff to me because he was getting sodomized and by ghosts?
SPEAKER_00So I think that his belief in his like mind or whatever, uh-huh, that he was just looking for notoriety and he was just looking for money. Oh and he was just like, I'm gonna say whatever I need to say to get me on the news and to get me.
SPEAKER_01I guess shit bag.
SPEAKER_00Essentially. Okay.
SPEAKER_01Alright, you ready for the gauntlet? Sure. Are we doing uh are we doing super fast?
SPEAKER_00Are we doing We're gonna go ahead and do super fast? We're gonna go B, C, A, and then C again, just in case.
SPEAKER_01Hold on.
SPEAKER_00B B, C, A, and then C if there's a fourth. Because I might die at like A, you know what I'm saying? B C A. C. And then A. And then A. And then if there's a fourth one, C. And then after that, I will uh I will I will try to go myself, but B C A, right? Yeah, B C A. Hopefully I picked right. And then after C. Yeah. B C A C. And then I'll go by myself after. Like I'll I'll go ahead and do manual. Okay. Good luck reading all that.
SPEAKER_01No, you're good. Night shift. St. Louis, Missouri, 1949. You are nurse Eleanor Hart, a young hospital nurse assigned to a patient unlike you've Ever seen. Officially, the 14-year-old or 14, the 13-year-old boy in room 321 has suffered an emotional disturbances. Unofficially, whisper spread through the hospital after dark. Um, nurses refuse to enter his room alone. Orderlies quit without notice. Priests arrive in all hours carrying rosaries, holy water, and prayer books. Boy's real name has never been spoken. Everyone simply calls him Roland. Your shift begins at 11 p.m. At the end of the hall stands room 321. Two Catholic priests wait outside the door. One is elderly and exhausted, the other appears tense, clutching a crucifix. The oldest priest, the older priest turns to you. Thank God you're here. He says, We need someone to monitor the boy during tonight's prayers. A crash echoes from inside the room. Then another. The younger priest flinches. The restraints won't hold him much longer. You swallow hard. As you approach the door, you hear a voice from inside, not a scream or a cry, a deep guttural voice that sounds like nothing a child should make. It speaks your name. Eleanor. Your blood runs cold. You have never met this boy before. What do you do? B. Ask how the boy could possibly know your name before going inside. You raise a trembling hand. Before I go in, you say to keep your voice you trying to keep your voice as steady as possible. How does he know my name? The priests exchange glances. Neither of them answer immediately. Another violent crash erupts from inside the room. The younger freer b the younger priest finally speaks. That's one of the reasons we're here. The older priest sighs heavily. The boy has spoken names he shouldn't know. Family members, doctors, nurses, sometimes strangers. You stare at him. You're saying he's psychic? No, the priest replies quietly. I'm saying we don't know. The scraping sounds come from the other side of the door, like fingernails dragging slowly across the metal. Then comes the voice again. Eleanor! The sound is deeper now, older, almost amused. Your brother still keeps the baseball in the attic. Your heart nearly dropped. Nobody here should know that. You haven't mentioned your brother to anyone in the hospital. The priest noticed the color drain from your face. What's wrong? asked the younger priest. Before you can answer, the door rattles violently. The entire frame shakes. The restraints inside clang against the bed. Then a loud thud strikes the door from the other side. Silence follows. A terrible, terrible silence. The older priest grips his rosary. Whatever happens tonight, he says, you do not any or do not answer questions from the voice. The younger priest unlocks the door, and the room beyond is dark. A single lamp illuminates the bed. Roland lies strapped to the mattress. At first glance he appears to be sleeping, and his eyes open, and they're fixed directly on you. And he smiles slowly. As you step inside, you notice something strange. Words are appearing beneath the skin on his forearm. The rays welts emerging one letter at a time. You watch in horror as the message finish finishes forming. Leave now. The priests haven't noticed. Eyes on your Roland's eyes never leave yours. What do you do? You said see. Ignore the message and help prepare the exorcism. You force yourself to ignore the warning. Whether it's the trick of the light or medical decondition or something far stranger, your job is to help this patient. Nothing else. You move to the bedside and begin preparing the equipment. The priests arrange candles around the room and open a worn Latin prayer book. Roland remains perfectly still, watching and waiting. The storm begins to intensify outside. Rain starts pouring against the windows. The older priests begin the ritual. Latin prayers fill the room. For several minutes nothing happens. Then Roland starts laughing. A low chuckle. The sound grows louder and louder until it becomes a howl, and the bread the bed frame rattles violently. The restraints strain metal groans. You check his pulse. The moment your fingers touch his wrist, the laughter stops. Instantly, the room becomes silent. Roland slowly turns his head towards you. His eyes seem stranely strangely focused, almost normal. Eleanor? He whispers. You freeze. Please. And the first time all night, he sounds like an ordinary frightened boy. They're lying. The priest continue praying. Roland's eyes filled with tears. Get them out of here! A second voice suddenly erupts. It comes from beneath. It comes from Roland's mouth, but it is deeper and angrier. He belongs to us. The overhead lights explode. Glass rains onto the floor. Several candles extinguish all at once. The younger priest stumbles backward. The room temperature drops so rapidly that your breath becomes visible. Then something impossible happens. Every piece of metal equipment in the room begins operating all at once. Monitors beat, cabinets rattle, metal instruments slide across trays, the bed lifts several inches from the floor, and for a brief moment everyone in the room simply stares. The bed crashes back down. Impact snags. The impact. The impact snags one of the restraints, and Roland's right arm comes free. The older priest shouts, Hold him! Roland's freed hand reaches beneath the mattress. You suddenly remember the early reports mentioned patients sometime hiding sharp objects during episodes. If he's grabbing something, everyone in the room could be in danger. What do you do? A. Rush forward and restrain his arm before you can pull anything out. You lunge forward, instinct takes over whatever Roland's reaching for you. You can't let him have it. You grab his wrist with both hands. The moment your skin touches, a jolt shoots up your arm. Not an electric shock, something colder. It feels like plunging your hands into icy water. Roland's arm is impossibly strong. The strength of several grown men seems to surge through this boy's body. The younger priest rushes to help. Together, you force his arm back into the onto the mattress. For a moment it works, then Roland smiles. Not the frightened smile of a child, a knowing one. Cruel. The mattress beneath him begins to buck upwards. You and the priest are thrown backwards. You crash into a cabinet, sending supplies flying across the room. The older priest raises a crucifix and continues the ritual, his voice growing louder, and Roland began screaming. The scream becomes two voices, then three. What sounds like an entire crowd of people speaking through him all at once. The room vibrates, the windows rattle. One of the candles topples onto the floor. You scramble to your feet, you notice something sticking out from beneath the mattress where Roland has reached. A folded piece of paper. The priest hadn't seen it yet, neither is Roland. At least, you don't think he has. As soon as you notice it, Roland's eyes lock onto yours. His expression changes. For the first time all night, he looks afraid. Truly afraid. No, he whispers, and the deeper voice erupts from his throat. Do not touch that. And the older priest glances over. What is it? he asks. The folded paper sits halfway under the mattress. What do you do? You said C. Ignore the paper and continue helping restraining Roland.
SPEAKER_00No, no, no, no, no. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
SPEAKER_01That's the rules of the gauntlet.
SPEAKER_00No hour.
SPEAKER_01You leave the paper where it's at. Whatever it contains can wait. Right now, the immediate danger is Roland. You rush back to the bedside and help the younger priest secure the broken restraint. The boy thrashes violently, the mattress groaning beneath him. The older priest's voices rises as it continues the ritual. Latin prayers echo through this room. Roland screams, the temperature plunges even further. Frost begins creeping up the inside of the windows, and the screaming stops. Instantly, the silence feels worse. Roland lies perfectly still. His eyes are closed. No movement, no sound, no struggle. The younger priest lowers his voice. Is it over? No one answers. You step closer to check Roland's pulse. Still there, slow and steady. Then his eyes snap open. Not at you, not at the priest, at the far corner of the room. Everyone follows his gaze. At first you see nothing. Then you notice it. A shadow. A darker patch of darkness standing where no object should be. Tall, motionless, almost human shape. The room feels suddenly crowded. As though someone else has entered, someone unseen. The older priest stops speaking for the first time all night. His face goes pale. The shadow slowly begins moving towards the bed. One. Another step. Step. The candles flicker wildly. Roland begins laughing again. Not because not because he is amused, because he seems to recognize whatever is approaching. The folded paper beneath the mattress slides out by itself. No wind, no one touching it. It glides across the floor until it stops at your feet. The shadow continues advancing. The priest are focused on it entirely. For a moment, no one is watching Roland, and no one is watching the paper except you. What do you do? Do you A pick up the paper and read it? B. Warn the priest that Roland is no longer being watched. C. Confront the approaching shadow and try to block its path to the bed.
SPEAKER_00I Okay, so first of all. You, Eleanor. Yeah, I know. I I think Eleanor the nurse, what are you doing? Listen, I think the paper was the biggest like play. Uh huh. I feel like something was there. I feel like I don't Or it could have been a trap because he was reaching for it. He was reaching for the paper. Maybe, maybe, or or it maybe it was actually the boy reaching for it, that it was something to do. Or it was the first thing that he like he had. Uh-huh. And then it brought the spirit into him, and it's like, oh, this is but the paper, you know. Um you know, I'm a gambler man. I might as well my curiosity would have gotten the best of me. I'm getting the paper. Even if I yeah, I'm choosing that.
SPEAKER_01Pick up the paper. Yeah. You bend down and snatch up the paper. The moment your fingers touch it, the room seems to grow quieter. Not silent, but just muffled. As though the sounds around you are suddenly coming from far away. The shadow continues advancing. The priests continue praying, but their voices now sound distant. You unfold the paper. The page is old and yellowed, covered in hurried handwriting. At first you think it's a note from a doctor, then you realize the writing is addressed directly to whoever finds it. The message reads, If you are reading this, do not trust what you see. The boy will sometimes tell the truth. The voice will sometimes tell the truth. The worst lies are mixed with facts. If the ritual reaches midnight, it will try to divide everyone in the room. It will offer secrets. It will reveal guilt. It will turn friend against friend. Whatever happens, do not leave the room alone. There is more. The final lines have been scribbled so hard the pencil nearly tore through the paper. If the shadow appears, keep your eyes on the boy. The shadow is the distraction. Your blood freezes, you s you slowly lower the paper. The shadow is not only is now only a few feet away from the bed, the priest are staring directly at it, exactly at the what the note warned against. And Roland, and Roland is no longer on the fucking bed. The restraints hang empty. For one impossible second, your mind refuses to accept what you're seeing. Then one hand closes around your shoulder from behind. You spin around. Roland is standing directly behind you. His hospital gown hangs loosely from his thin frame. His face is expressionless. His eyes almost seem normal. Almost. You're the only one paying attention, he says softly. The shadow vanishes. The priests whirl around in shock. Roland smiles. Then he points towards the hallway outside the room. The door at the far end of the corridor slowly creaks open by itself. Darkness waits beyond. Something's coming, Roland whispers. The older priest raises his crucifix. No one else is here. Roland's smile widened. Then what just then what? Just open the door. Heavy footsteps echo from the hallway. Then another, slower, measured, approaching. What do you do? Do you A, stay with the priest and Roland inside the room? B, go into the hallway, investigate the footsteps. C, lock the room door and refuse to let whatever is outside enter.
SPEAKER_00I feel like the footsteps are a distraction, like the note said. I'm gonna keep I'm a s I'ma actually follow the note. Stay in the stay with the priest and Roland inside the room? Yes. Okay. Though if I had locked the door, wouldn't that just be like the same? We would still be in. But I feel like that'd be the distraction because Roland would be like, oh You stay inside the room.
SPEAKER_01The warning on the note flashes through your mind. Do not leave the room alone. Whatever is out there, you are not going to meet it in a dark hospital corridor. The older priest motions for everyone to move away from the door. Excuse me. The younger priest quietly shuts it. The footsteps continue, slow and steady, drawing nearer. Thump, thump. The sound reaches the other side of the door, then stops. Silence. No rattling handle, no knock, no nothing. Everyone whips the room feels smaller by the second. Then a voice comes from the hallway. Father? The younger priest freezes. His face goes white. The voice sounds exactly like his mother. A frail, elderly woman who, according to the priest, died years ago. The older priest immediately pray begins praying louder. The voice comes again, soft, pleading. Please open the door. The younger priest grips his rosary so tightly his knuckles turn white. Rowan watches with fascination. The voice changes. Now it belongs to a man. The older priest's expression hardens. You realize it must be somebody he recognizes as well. The thing outside seems to know exactly who to imitate. The voice changes again. This time it speaks as your father. Every word, every inflection, perfect. Eleanor. Your stomach drops. Open the door. Please. You know it cannot be him. Yet hearing it feels like a knife twisting in your chest. The handle begins turning slowly. The lock clicks. The door starts to open. At the same moment, Roland doubles over. He screams in agony. The sound is unlike anything you've heard all night. His skin suddenly erupts with fresh welts. Letters, words, entire sentences. The marks race across his arm, his chest faster than anyone can read them. The older priest shouts, The boy, look at the boy! Everyone turns away from the door. The opening door suddenly slams shut on its own. The room shakes violently. Roland collapses on the floor. When the trembling finally stops, the new message upon his skin becomes clear. The words stretch across both forarms. It fears the name. The priests stare. The younger priest look confused. What name? Before anyone can answer, Roland slowly raises his head. His eyes lock onto yours. And he speaks in a voice that is not his own, a voice like gravel and thunder, a voice filled with hatred. And it s it says only one word, a name. The instant it is spoken, every light in the room ex every light in the room explodes. The room is plunged into total darkness. And something screams from the hallway. Not human. Not even close. What do you do? You ask Roland to repeat the name. Search for a flashlight while the priest continue the ritual. Help the priest continue the exorcism in the darkness and ignore the scream. Help the priest, ignored the scream. Fuck it. You ignore the scream. Whatever in the hallway is no longer your priority. The boy is. The ritual is. You move towards the priest in the darkness. The only remaining light comes from a single candle that somehow survived the shattered fixtures. Its tiny flame casts long, distorted shadows across the room. The older priest resumes the rite immediately. His voice is hoarse now, exhausted, but determined. The younger priest joins in. The Latin players grow louder. Stronger, Roland writhes on the floor. Words on his skin begin shifting, letters twisting, rearranging themselves like the living like living things beneath the flesh. The boy starts speaking, not screaming, speaking calmly, one voice after another. A nurse who quit the hospital. A doctor who transferred away, a patient from another floor. People the priests have never met, each voice saying the same thing. Stop, stop! The candles flicker. Leave him alone! The flames bend sideways. You're making it worse. Then every voice speaks together, and the sound shakes the room. He is ours. The candle goes out. Total darkness. And for several terrifying seconds, all you can hear is prayer. Then something touches your hand. You nearly jump, but it's the younger priest. He presses a crucifix into your palm. Hold this, he whispers. You grip it tightly. The metal feels strangely warm. Across the room, Roland begins choking. You hear him gasping for air. The priests immediately change their prayers. The choking worsens, then suddenly stops. A deep silence settles over the room. A different kind of silence. Not threatening or oppressive, just still. Someone strikes a match. The tiny flame illuminates the room. Roland lies motionless on the floor. The red markings are gone. The frost on the window has melted, and the air feels normal again. For the first time all night, the room seems like an ordinary hospital room. The older m priest kneels behind the boy and checks his pulse. For a long moment or a long moment passes, then another. He finally looks up, tears glistening in his exhausted eyes. I think, he says quietly, I think it is over. No one speaks, no one dares believe it. Roland slowly opens his eyes. They look clear, confused, but human. The boy glances around the room. Why why are you all staring at me? The priests exchange stunned looks. Roland sits up. The last thing he notices is you. Miss Eleanor? His voice is weak, childlike. Did I do something wrong? Before anyone can answer, a loud knock echoes from the hallway. Everyone freezes. Three slow knocks. Then silence. The priests stare at the door. Roland stares at the door. You stare at the door, and from the other side comes a familiar voice. Your own. Don't open it. You survived the night. But whether the excism truly ended remains a mystery. Hey, you survived it. Good job. It was a little bit like Did I?
SPEAKER_00Did I you?
SPEAKER_01It's like Dolphins kind of like rolling in the priest.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Why are you so fat, cat? I'm gonna be I'm gonna be real. Like, my first instinct, like in a possession like that, while the priests are doing their thing, uh-huh. It's my job to be the enforcer, right? And it's like, come back to us, you son of a and just start beating the kid down.
SPEAKER_01Like that poor kid is just getting just a head bouncing off.
SPEAKER_00So I can even imagine like the like demons, like you're hurting the kid. Ilanor, quit it.
SPEAKER_01I can't. Just peace in that poor kid. I can imagine So we're going back to like the dark comedy idea, right? I was thinking of it's just Tyson, just like No, I was thinking like you're up there, like you're doing this.
SPEAKER_00He's like, No, I won't stop. And then it's like your hands go out of frame and they come back in, and there's a box of gloves, and you just start.
SPEAKER_01I just think of what was it? Was it a scary movie where Tyson was in a wig fighting the jets? Yeah, I was thinking about a scary movie where it's like Tyson in a wig, and it's like nurse, Eleanor, stop. I can't. Just the kid's hanging up, like and he's just using him like a sandbag.
SPEAKER_00And the priest comes in with the referee, like he's wearing a referee thing instead, and he's also like he's wearing a red shirt, but he's got the priest collar on and the cross and everything. So my the hand and it's like winner. That's funny. But no, I I would definitely say, like, this is yeah, uh oof, demonic possessions are insane to think about.
SPEAKER_01They really, really are.
SPEAKER_00So that was the exorcism of Roland Doe. Yep, yep. And if you've uh made it this far, please go ahead and leave a like, go ahead and subscribe, hit that bell for any notifications to stay updated for when we post. And then, of course, follow us on our all of our social medias. We have links in the descriptions for everything. We have the book, the exorcists that are for the book club for July. And then uh yeah, that's that's that's you don't have to keep like you're barely in frame. Yeah, okay. I'm just gonna flip it to your camera and it's just you leaning over. But yeah, that's pretty much it. Uh ghosts and ghouls.
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