The Rise and Fall of Trust
The Rise and Fall of Trust dives deep into the defining moments when trust is earned, shattered, or put on the line. In each episode, hosts Anne Claessen and Pete Mockaitis sit down with bold, honest professionals–from wealth advisors and legal experts to executive coaches and thought leaders–who’ve seen trust tested in real time.
Through real-world stories of extraordinary follow-through and shocking betrayal, you’ll gain powerful insights into how trust shapes reputations, relationships, and results. Discover the traits that elevate someone from good to unforgettable, and the red flags that signal a fall from grace.
Whether you’re leading teams, advising clients, or navigating your own high-stakes path, this podcast helps you master the art of trust in business AND in life.
New episodes drop every other week. Tune in to uncover what makes trust thrive, and what causes it to collapse.
The Rise and Fall of Trust
Trust Is the Business: Transparency, Risk, and Proactive Communication with Tom Kelly
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Trust in wealth management isn’t built on returns. It comes from how you show up when things get messy.
When markets rise and fall, strategies shift, and emotions run high, that’s when trust is really put to the test.
In this episode, Tom Kelly, Chief Investment Officer and Senior Advisor at SJS Investment Services, shares how transparency, patience, and emotional intelligence shape real confidence between advisors, clients, and investment partners.
Through two contrasting stories of rising and falling trust with third-party asset managers, Tom reveals what he has learned about strengthening long-term relationships, as well as what can quickly unravel them.
What You’ll Learn:
- Why wealth management is ultimately a trust-based business.
- How transparency around both wins and losses strengthens long-term confidence.
- What red flags appear when investment managers avoid discussing risk.
- Why proactive communication matters most when things go wrong.
- How emotional intelligence shapes trust during market volatility.
- The role diversification plays in balancing excitement and long-term stability.
- Why knowing the person behind the portfolio matters more than just performance.
Ideas Worth Sharing:
- “I always say I'm an investment advisor or work in the wealth management industry, but truly… it's a trust business at the end of the day.” - Tom Kelly
- “Everyone loves to talk about everything that’s good and the potential good that can come, but people are oftentimes very short on the risks.” - Tom Kelly
- "Trust oftentimes takes a long time to build and can be destroyed instantaneously with one wrongdoing.” - Tom Kelly
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About Tom Kelly:
Tom Kelly is the Chief Investment Officer and Senior Advisor at SJS Investment Services, an independent registered investment advisory firm with nearly 30 years of history. He leads with a long-term investment philosophy focused on diversification, discipline, and client-first decision making. Tom is known for pairing institutional-level investment rigor with relationship-driven service rooted in transparency and trust.
Connect with Tom:
LinkedIn: Tom Kelly, CFA
Connect with Anne:
LinkedIn: Anne Claessen
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