Episode 29 - United’s loss was coming

This week we spoke about the previous gameweek in the premier league where Arsenal gained an advantage in the title race by beating Brighton whilst Man City could only draw with Nottingham Forest. Liverpool slipped up at Wolves, Spurs’ relegation worries are becoming a reality, and another bad performance from Man United ended in a loss that was coming for weeks. We spoke in depth about the news around the football world and as always answered brilliant questions from our listeners.

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:05

Hello everyone, welcome back. Episode 29, Lads on the Sideline Podcast. It's me, Connor, as always, joined by my brother Channel. How's everybody getting on? Welcome back. And our father and TV sensation.

SPEAKER_03 0:20

Instagram sensation, and not even that. But you come here. Welcome back, everybody, and thanks for listening. And thanks for all the views on um Instagram for me council posts.

SPEAKER_02 0:31

Yeah, for anyone that doesn't know or for people that aren't in Ireland. Was it? I think it must have been last summer because it's just you looked like you came back from Spain.

SPEAKER_03 0:45

You came back from Spain. People are saying that's what people were saying when they were saying, well, you did that to wear much mic over there.

SPEAKER_02 0:53

But uh yeah, for Vino's job, he's just followed around for a couple of days and it was on and Pato as well as Uncle Patrick as well. Yeah, so they were both followed around by Virgin Ninja. So anybody that hasn't seen it, it's on I'm sure it's on the Virgin Ninja player. And there's a little clip and stuff on uh Virgin Ninja television on Instagram, so I'm gonna have a little look right. What's it 50,000 viewers or something, hasn't it?

SPEAKER_01 1:16

Yeah, I think it was a 52,000 or something now, yeah. So doing alright. But it's uh it's Virgin Media uh television is what it's on, and it's clips there, but it's about 30 seconds on it. Very good, but you got a good comment from Kelly Harrington on it. Oh very good, yeah. She meant she left a nice comment on it about the two years, so um she that's nice. Nice there. She's from around that area, you know. She seems down there as well. That was a very nice person. She didn't have to, you know. So yeah, exactly. Yeah, thanks very much for that. Yeah, yeah. Kelly's one of our boxing sensations in in Ireland, you know. Yeah, but for anybody who doesn't know an Irish hero, that's it.

SPEAKER_03 1:49

She's really down there for a celebrity like you know. That's it, an Olympic champion, that's it. Double championship, two goals, yeah. Two goals, yeah. So it's nice to get recognized. Obviously, you've met her before, like you know, so yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:03

Yeah, that's the story behind it. Pretty good.

SPEAKER_03 2:05

Yeah, no, fair plan. I'm gonna have some news are gonna have to go. You feed me the information, that's it. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 2:13

Um well yeah, we just want to say thanks to people. We've plenty of more listeners out last week. The last week was has been our most popular week for listeners in fairness, and uh we've people listen out from all over the world, so just shout out to people listening to us in Australia and America and stuff like that. And if you are those people and you want to keep listening, you can follow us on Instagram and you can see when our posts go up or uh follow us on Spotify and you get notified when it goes live. But uh yeah, that's it. You interact as well, people give us a shout on the yeah, see what the reviews are.

SPEAKER_03 2:48

Yeah, that's any platform so we can know that either, as I said, but to all those people, thanks very much. Won't be shy, yeah. Yeah, it's well appreciated from us, Tree.

SPEAKER_02 2:57

Yeah, that's great. We were uh we were waiting three or four minutes to start this because we're doing this while Liverpool are playing against Gallat, right? There was a handball there that we all sort of saw after 15 seconds was a handball, but took them about three or four minutes. So we're sort of waiting to see if that goes gonna be a good one.

SPEAKER_01 3:13

It's Kanate's arm from a corner, clear as they you've seen it with the corny RI. Yeah. They said that's a handball. And they took they have many different camera angles. And three or four minutes, three minutes out of it, handball. You've seen it with you, it's like even being wearing glasses. And you see it like at the corny RI, how can they not just make a decision like that? Yeah, I don't know. You know what I mean? Madness.

SPEAKER_02 3:35

But uh yeah, so look at we'll kick on and we'll go on to our news, good bit of news now this week. And uh we'll start with the United ticket prices. I don't know if you're saying that, but the season ticket prices will go back up another five percent. Somebody said that to me today, yeah. Look at we said it a couple of weeks ago, they're just driving people to get rid of that season tickets. I don't think so they can have to one time in person go every week and spend all the money, they'll make three or four times more money that way, won't that?

SPEAKER_01 4:04

Of course, but yeah, there's no way of proving this either. They can just put it down to any cost they want to because the world has gone mad, costs on everything, so they can just drive that and just basically blame it on that, isn't it? Yeah, it's what they're doing.

SPEAKER_03 4:15

Yeah, and it's great, and you know what, they get away with it because like they're so popular as a football team that they'll always fill the stadium. Of course. As you said, and that and they're not loyal to the loyal fan fans that's in Manchester and in Ireland and in America and all over the world that actually have season tickets that can make her all the time, but obviously to the locals around Old Trafford and around the around where the Man United fans come from, they're not being loyal to them. No. I mean, like they're just as you said, they're just draining them of everything, overpriced and everything, just to piss them off and just get more money.

SPEAKER_02 4:47

Yeah, exactly. And people always say, yeah, the United fellow gets a like all the glaciers with these spent money and blah blah blah. Stuff like this is why I mean nobody wants them at the club. I mean not to own the club, so look at I'm we're sort of on the season, take away and listen. Will we ever get one? Probably not. It's only ten years, I think, honestly, is it ten years, yeah. Ten years. We might again eventually get one, but the way things are going. We might be priced now. Yeah, well, remember a couple of years ago checking it was like£690 for the year. So I think now it's like nearly£780 to£800. Ridiculous but should look at what can we do?

SPEAKER_01 5:27

People would say, like, it's uh they might just come back and say, Well, that's my football's gone now. It's it's it's a business and basically tough luck to fill the stadiums no matter what, but it's not the you have to look after your locals. You have to look after the core fans have always been there, and I can understand it is a business need to make money. Of course. I understand that grant, but there's ways of doing it. It's a huge stadium, and I know they're trying to build a new one, but like the likes of Bayern Munich, they're just looking sure they their season tickets last year. I don't know what the most up-to-date one is, but the lowest season ticket was£149 if you did it in pounds, just I'll have it on Google there.

SPEAKER_02 5:59

So I think I I which way do they could be wrong, but I think the Bundesliga have a uh it's like 50-49 real or something, where the fans own 50% of all the clubs and 49% is the owners. So just later season take the prices and all, none of that ever gets changed because the fans will never have vote. Yeah, like you can go to a brush at all and game for 15 euro or something more.

SPEAKER_01 6:24

So how can I know it's different, uh completely change it to that, but how like look at them, look at my look at the look at the club. Yeah. So make that what you do. Top class club for cent feels like centuries, you know. Ever since I was born, they're just a they're just a since I started footballs are just a top class team. And look and look at the charge, and how but so like you know, it can it can be done.

SPEAKER_02 6:46

Oh yeah, it can. Like you said, the the Glares are exploiting what they can exploit.

SPEAKER_03 6:52

Yeah, then look at you have the likes of Boring Munich, and you keep saying, and Sean, you're the same, you keep saying it, that when you are um winning things and you're a successful team, well then it brings revenue. And then like the television rights now are unlabeled for the for the delights of Boring Munich and the German football on the premise football, and it's well it's well to get a lot of money in and they can survive on that. They deserve it, you know what I mean? I give them that. So nice to see. Yeah, it's like Wrexham and like there's Wrexham and Chelsea played uh the other day now, and two American owners of the two American clubs were saying the difference was like you have you have the actors right there on this club, and you have to you have Ted Bowley owns the other club, and then he pumps millions in, but he only pumps millions in, but he has no character in the team. And then you have the Wrexham that's had to come up three times to say, like, in promotions now and on, and you can see the love they have for their team. And it's a bit big difference that they put the effort into Wrexham and everybody's happy and they love, and it's all the effort to support. You can see the women and children all going, they're so happy, and then you have the other way with like the Chelsea owners, they go out and they buy somebody for 80 million pounds and and they buy somebody for 50 million, and just all put it down and make a walk, and there's no harmony between them and the fans and the club, it's just one extreme to the other. You have to think of the car fans.

SPEAKER_01 8:02

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Rexum, I just read a thing there now, I didn't check it up right. But I think the the initial investment was like two million from them, compared to and they reckon it's worth over 300 million now. Yeah, as a club. Yeah, and they didn't do it for that.

SPEAKER_03 8:14

No, they didn't because it helps, but you invest the money like you know, yeah, quite in the Premier League team next year. You know, well we put it down a while ago, didn't we? Predictions and like like as regards to who you'd like and someone asked us the question, I picked him for one of the teams I'd like to see going on.

SPEAKER_02 8:28

Yeah, yeah. So it brings us into the next one a bit well. The from next year onwards, the playoffs and the championship, it's gonna be six playoff places now instead of only the four. So then it has to be a little late then, is it? Yeah, it must be. I don't know how they're gonna do it. I don't know whether like you said, I don't know how it just doesn't work like numerically semi-final into a final. Now it's gonna be three games, so then it'll be three teams left. I don't know what way it's gonna work, but so it's still just the fourth and second goes through. Yeah, and then that's not increasing, is it? No, no, and then the next six places then are. So eight places rough or grabs a little mini.

SPEAKER_03 9:04

It's very good to aim for it, isn't it? Like confirms like a little mini leg down, but like it'll have to be very quick, wouldn't it? Like, because like it's the end of the season and then it's it's it's that then to get to the final.

SPEAKER_02 9:15

Unless it's uh like a maybe the what would it be, toward and forward place don't play, and maybe the next four play each other, and then them two they still have to come out with the rules and stuff in the tournament. Yeah, maybe something like that might be that's go by championship teams.

SPEAKER_03 9:28

But look at the part or by championship teams. Look, it's now hard to change things up, it's it's it works just keeps things relevant, isn't it? Like that, like you know, it's not bored and all the time, it's the same thing, the same thing. You you need change, don't you? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:39

Sometimes absolutely then uh just Ireland's women's team, you gave them a bit of a mention last week, you're the only side they were playing, and uh they lost a four or two matches anyway. You lost the home to France in uh Tallis Age. You're lucky you won't clear it off the line at the last minute with France. Seeing that, and then uh they went and he lost two one away to Holland, so look not the best start for them, but was always gonna be tough and two very tough games, but you know what?

SPEAKER_03 10:04

You learn a lot from it. Do you like you weren't slaughtered in both games, so like I mean they're obviously improving.

SPEAKER_02 10:09

Well, I think France are like seventh in the world in Holland or 11th or something, something like that. Like they're not a million miles outside the top ten or nothing, so they're two good teams.

SPEAKER_03 10:18

Like look, I wouldn't be saying nothing much about women's football because I don't know too much about women's football, but you do see some of the results, and some teams have been 13-0 and all. Do you know what I mean? Like, like so. Obviously, there's a there's a vibe between the two countries, and then even in the premiership in England, like years ago, teams used to slot or other teams, so they only get beaten by the all goal amounts that they can take something out with that they're improving.

SPEAKER_02 10:39

Yeah, yeah, definitely, yeah. The next two biting news sort of features go hand in hand, but they're both at the FA Cup. So just the FA Cup draw again. We're obviously not in it, so we care, but we don't really care. Like you know what I mean. Obviously, just hide around a city in Liverpool. Yeah. So that'll be a big team gone. Um, Chelsea are true to Wembley already, they're playing a home to Portvale. I'm sure you might as well say Arsenal are true as well.

SPEAKER_03 11:04

No way when all the Port Vale fans is listening to us. Yeah, I'd be happy saying that. You got a good payday that goes to Stamford Bridge.

SPEAKER_02 11:13

Um and then Southampton are a home to Arsenal. Expect Arsenal to go through again. Another handy drop of at that day that that was a really tough run-in for them, wasn't it, Arsenal?

SPEAKER_01 11:23

I have to say. Is that not in all the competitions like that? They seem to be getting a big look at the grin. Yeah, I don't know what's going on. It's a bit strange.

SPEAKER_02 11:31

Yeah, a man said that, didn't he? Yeah. The CEO or whatever it was of the Premier League. But sure, Chelsea had said the same. Like Chelsea played away to Charlton in the fourth leg, then they played away to hold in in the next round that they got, then away to Rex on the weekend, then a home to Portville. Yeah. Like so. That's an easier though.

SPEAKER_01 11:54

There's a former Premier League CEO. I don't know when he said it though.

SPEAKER_02 11:57

Oh, it's only a couple of weeks ago, I think. Richards good amore.

SPEAKER_01 12:02

He said they have a strategic plan to put a new name on the trophy every six year in every six year period. Yeah, well. Yeah, well, Arsenal are getting a lot of rubber green this year, is what I say. Wrestling people and all in boxes and stuff, like you know. Not saying that it's you know, just throw it out there. Just throwing it out there.

SPEAKER_02 12:21

Before we go into Arsenal's best team, to be fair to them. West Ham and Leeds, and it's the last one. So come here, looking at if one of those big teams be gone to Wembley, so it'll be a good day out or the West Ham or Leeds fans in fairness, like get to a semi-final.

SPEAKER_03 12:34

Come here, it takes the ounces out and like for um for the league, doesn't it? Well, I mean look, and even West Ham now, like I know, like was it Brentford score the 88 minute equal eyes or something like that game? Like, and then like so West Ham are probably just lucky enough to win the game, like it was such such a late goal to say, but um it's giving the Comptons a bit of a boost for the rest of the season, isn't it? They're getting half decent results now, West Ham, isn't it?

SPEAKER_02 12:54

Well it's one of the damn it's like people say like if you're you know I suppose people say you're trying to get into the Champions League as well, like United that we're one game a week that'll help. But the likes of West Ham, momentum is a big thing as well. Yeah, 100%. You're one point behind spores, like you have to be confident. It's confident.

SPEAKER_03 13:14

Yeah, the happy feeling around your club, and everybody's can't wait for the next game or definitely like 100%, Connell.

SPEAKER_02 13:20

You're right. And then you talk about rule changes, and we said the championship. I just wanted to bring this up about the Arsenal Brighton game and what you thought of it. And the Brighton manager coming out, giving out about Arsenal's taking so long to restart the game from throw-ins and goal kicks and corners. So they took over 30 minutes to restart the match at Arsenal from throw-ins and corners. But that means the game is an hour. Yeah, and then the Brighton did a few bits and pieces for five minutes to say, so it's probably 50 to 55 minutes long. That's terrible.

SPEAKER_01 13:53

That's awful, awful. That's shocking. That's not that's not that's horrible, horrible football. I don't want to come across as bitter because United aren't Arsenal at the moment, the way they're playing. If if United are on the brink winning everything, I'd still say it. Yeah, of course. I'd still say it. You know, and you know I just I think it's shocking. Because the Arsenal fans think they're the best thing since Lifespred, the team that they have now. I know if they imagine they win everything. Jesus, they'd be saying they're they're better than all the United teams, better than all the City teams, all the buildings, and they're just not, they're leaving their own little bubble, but that it's horrible football. I know I want to be saying this. If ours were going out and walloping people and the stats were different, not saying all these tactics are not used by other teams, but not to that effect. No, it's old fashioned football. So like if I'd love to see them I'd even give Liverpool credit when they won the league, not last year, that the fourth time they were the game was over before you went in. I mean remember the league where Man City won, they got 100 points and Liverpool got 98 or something. The two teams were unbelievable to watch. I have to say, I don't like saying it, but I'd love to be saying that about Arsenal. That proves that I'm not just I don't have an really bad against Arsenal as such, you know, where most of the fans but that is it's terrible football. I don't want to hear him either. Yeah, and you know what you win it all this year, it's dirty, it's horrible, it's terrible football. Anti-football. Yeah. What did the man say? Was it not Rude Huller, was it? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:07

Which one used to manage Chelsea? Was it Rude Huller? Rude Huller, yeah. He said he was watching the Arsenal and Chelsea game and he played a couple of weeks ago and he said he torn her off after 20 minutes. He said he wanted to watch it because he's he was a Chelsea man, like tell me, but he said he just couldn't tell that. It's horrible to watch like yeah. That's Arsenal against Chelsea. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:24

I'm not saying before you go on, I'm not saying United are any better than United are terrible. This is their seventh year of building Arsenal. They're supposed to be the best team of all time. For I'm told from some people.

SPEAKER_02 15:33

But then aren't the shocking are the rest of the league just as bad for following that though?

SPEAKER_03 15:38

Yeah, they're like the new castle.

SPEAKER_02 15:40

A lot of teams like like everybody think Brentford's long throw is like Arsenal set the sort of benchmark for it. Doesn't mean you have to follow it.

SPEAKER_01 15:48

Unit have done it. We have loads of things from from set pieces this year, but again, like we're not we just lacked our manager. So we like you know we're not supposed to be the best team in the world.

SPEAKER_03 15:57

Look, they're supposed to be in a rule change, isn't it? Like that like five seconds for a throw and five seconds when you're on the corner to get the corner and take the corner. So we just have to wait and see what comes in because there's a lot of teams like apartment long trials and waste time doing a question later on, though. Luke has to waste a lot of time as well, don't you?

SPEAKER_01 16:14

And like Liverpool are not bad either at wasting time as well when that when they're winning and one n up so and it's it's the 88th minute and the six minutes at a time or something, then he can waste time, yeah, of course, but not in when it's nil at all.

SPEAKER_02 16:27

But should we not say it's unbelievable when United played Palace and it was 2-1 and United players swatting around on the ball, and they're like, Where's the ordinance? I mean it's frustrating. It's not just it's just it's football in general.

SPEAKER_01 16:39

Yeah, it's frustrating. We're guilty of it, and we have been, and mean to call them out as well, which we are. So I'm not gonna look like we're all just attacking the successful teams here.

SPEAKER_02 16:46

Well, do we get throwing on the left hand side and the low will jog over to take the throw, and I'm like, come on, speed up, speed up.

SPEAKER_03 16:53

It's look, it just sums up the premiership this year. Yeah, you know what I mean. Like, and if I are to win the premiership there, will the will you'll take a hand and you'll say, Well done, and that's it. And of course, on it then, and the next year but it'll be but at the end of the day, like as I would always say it on the like if you score another 15 free kicks and you win every game, just say and you win the league, Arsenal fans and Arsenal uh Arsenal football to the same. Okay, yeah, but no, but I just don't want to hear it.

SPEAKER_01 17:17

That's not that the best Bardot Thomas trying to wind me up, that's why I don't mind that. They're the best team since the last bread. Remember Tevez, Rooney, Ronaldo, those that run three against Arsenal's run three now. No, it wasn't Ronaldo. Have halfway through the season more goals and sisters and all them put together. Yeah, simple lane football we played different attack attack attack unbelievable goals and um statistics out of them. That and this is so if they win it, fair play. But that'd be a little random over. No, but it's just it's it's the standard of football just getting worse. It's a standard, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 17:47

Like getting worse, it's a more it's a lot as you said there were like Ryan Reunion on and and all these players around messing out and say, are the players out there now not naturally as good as you were? Like it's not not more naturally footballers coming through now, like anymore now. Like, are they all interested in Instagram now and all this and and and not wanting to play football?

SPEAKER_02 18:05

Building their own probably because of me were only out walking yesterday, me and Sean, and we are saying, Oh, we've grown to just united in a few minutes, like about Newcastle, and I'd love to see them change it and they put a left wing on the right and right wing on the off right side, on the left side, blah blah blah. What I said to you was like if the teams out there took their shackles off, and I wonder if Arsenal said to like just say Saka or he said to the like say Palmer or Garnaccio or any of these players, just go and do what you want. Like you said, I don't think they'd be able to. No. Like I don't think if you put just say Saka on the left wing, I don't think he could do what Damian Duff did or Ryan Giggs did years ago, or all these like left wingers where they just constantly pass the fullback and cross the bottom. Yeah, just some you're covering. I don't think it's in any of the players nowadays, like Anthony Gordon and all, and like how things are Jane McGee was like Aiden McGee was a trickier player than him.

SPEAKER_01 19:00

Like, yeah, I'll tell him he was better than all them players you just named there. Nanny. Yeah, like Nanny. I think he can go right or left. He's better than I don't care what anybody thinks. Probably the biggest name out there is Saka. I don't care, he's way better than Saga. Way was way better than Saka.

SPEAKER_03 19:14

But it's like you keep saying, like, they're like as if they're playing with robots and they're only allowed playing the same part of the pitch, and then like um if they go out that part of the pitch, then uh it breaks down or something like that. So are they are they like computerised us to just not play natural football? Like well, years ago when you played football, just say, like, if you're two good midfielders and one went forward, one will stay and cover in. If the fullback went up the line, then the other three would pull across, and they all all walked as a as a team, and and you'd often see players just going into a position and people communicate and and and cover, and they always played as a team. Now you just seem to be like fair to go out of positions.

SPEAKER_01 19:48

Did you see the overlap with Garabell? No, Garabelle was on it. Jingle James, Gary Neville asked him a very, very good question about so when Garabelle was up there, Ronaldo Benzema and him, he said how much imp input did you use have as players on the tactics and on the way you played? Did Angelo actually Angelo because of the way the football is now, basically that Angelotti at the time and Zedan was it asked what's the difference between the two of them? Um I won't get into that, but the point I'm trying to make is he said that like does Angelotti have anything impact on you on your game and Ronaldo's game and Benzema's game, or do you go out and play yourself? Do you go out and do it what's the talent naturally naturally? I think he said it was 49% him, 50% them. So they basically and in the end they dictated how they were gonna play. Yeah, and they just let that talent show.

SPEAKER_03 20:45

Yeah, and if you're not actually a good football, that's what you did.

SPEAKER_01 20:47

It was more than that, I was just trying to think there, how was it how they were it's actually very good if you want to go and watch it. Yeah, but wouldn't it be? He's very honest, it's Garab Bell, very, very honest.

SPEAKER_03 20:54

Yeah, but we like Messi going on the pitch. Tell them what to do, somebody coming up with it, somebody coming up with it with the board and and saying now get now and and we're all of us as fans, like Messi obviously like they was with Barcelona for years, and we we you'd watch them just say, like you'd laugh at the people and they tell him at least telling Messi what to do. Yeah, yeah. But if you just say out there, express yourself. And that's it.

SPEAKER_02 21:16

You give it to the Premier League like years ago, like what player nowadays is like a JJ Cotcher? And he played he only played for Bolton.

SPEAKER_03 21:23

Yeah, even he didn't know what he was going to do with the ball.

SPEAKER_02 21:25

We're so good because he was just Oh yeah, man, Adele Tarat. Remember him at the moment, yeah, yeah. And I think it starts from people who are like kids nowadays, and if if they're in like an academy, yo, do you think they've sort of made it and you have the fancy boots and the white socks over that their socks, the tape around their wrists and all, like that and it's as if they mentally alright, I'm a left winger as a rifle, I can't do anything else, I don't play anywhere else. It's like you just can't play football.

SPEAKER_01 21:55

And they're all making money too early. That's actually I wouldn't say it's easy, no, but that's really that to go. People behind them and that, you know. Yeah, what but it's always fascinating what Bail said they they went out and dictated how they played. And that's not like the case now. That's where football has changed. People might be listening to us now, but Sean and football's changed. That's not the way it is, and it's all re regimented now. But that's where previous points in other podcasts saying, but the standard has gone down.

SPEAKER_03 22:18

Yeah, well, didn't we wasn't wrong? Another podcast like when we did like probably a couple of months ago now, like with like the likes of Manchester City and Real Madrid and all, and they bring these players up and everybody plays in the academy like in all up and then they're playing as a left fool to all the academy teams. And when they go to play, if they get that game for the four team, then they're a left fool to say, or they're a centre forward. So then they're not naturally like put into other positions where to play as a team if they're stuck for somewhere else to say, like where that takes the natural ability out of them like as a complete footballer, and then they're just just a robot for one position.

SPEAKER_02 22:55

Oh I started as a a left back and then I'm a centre forward, or I started as a winger and then thrown into a centre hat or something like this.

SPEAKER_03 23:02

Yeah, low it's like but it doesn't really sit, it wouldn't happen anymore, I don't think. Not really, no. I don't think it does anyway. Look, that's just a very good thing.

SPEAKER_01 23:09

We could be completely wrong, but we could be completely. But I mean that's when a versatile player comes around, he stands out like a sort of thumb. So if anybody listening, trying to be a best to be versatile.

SPEAKER_02 23:18

Yeah, that's what I think in all uh if if a manager decided to go an all-fashion 4-4-2, I think that teams wouldn't know what to do nowadays. If you had two wingers, if you were a right footer on the right-hand side, I know I keep saying about United and Carrick and all, only because he played with wingers like that. Because if you said, right, we put Ahmad on the left and we put Cunha on the right, and we'd have Sesco and Bemo front as a big man, small man, try it. It's gonna be different. The teams don't know what to do. It's not as if we have two fullbacks that are gonna overlap all the time. So why don't teams do? Why don't Brentford have fullen? Why don't you teams do nowadays?

SPEAKER_03 23:52

And then you've one midfielder then attacking as well, one midfielder hole in front of the back floor, and if it's on the right hand side, as you said, then like one of the fullbacks can come up and and and and join in and then tuck in on the other side, and if it's on the other side, as you said, and go old fashioned, yeah. Like it's hard, and you know what? When it breaks down, then it's it's hard to be as well because you just squeeze in and you just compact the pitch. Well, so look at it anyway.

SPEAKER_02 24:14

We're not experts then the last two bits of news I thought they're pretty similar. The match in Brazil, Brazil though against Atletico Monero, it's 23 men sent off for La Brawl, it was in the Brazilian Cup final. I think Hulk plays a won this game. Giving some of them drop kicking all punching each other all. See the goalkeeper's head?

SPEAKER_03 24:36

Yeah, big lump in the side of his head, like, but but Career, all they want to know is if you've watched it, uh what size was his red card? It must have been the size of an A4 page, wouldn't it? How would you get 24 on that card?

SPEAKER_01 24:51

You didn't get sent off, yeah. Well he definitely would have been sent off in that.

SPEAKER_03 24:55

You carry one didn't get sent off.

SPEAKER_02 25:02

And then another brawl close to the home rangers in Celtic.

SPEAKER_03 25:06

I was watching that. That was mad. Obviously, you look at Kamer now, but even going back to now fans, even going back to the one years of time in Brazil, just say, right?

SPEAKER_00 25:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:16

Um I have to I have to admit to um like they let themselves down the players, didn't they? Yeah. Like at the end of the day, right now, it's no it's laughing on and all that and all, like they have a lot to say, but they're all models for kids and all, didn't they? Realistically, like this there's millions of people watching them in Brazil and all, and they're all models, like Brazilian footballers like playing in Brazil and all, and how a lot of like so like at the end of the day, they let themselves down.

SPEAKER_02 25:40

Yeah, big time.

SPEAKER_03 25:40

Like they really did, you know what I mean like me and like can't be gone on like that.

SPEAKER_01 25:44

It's controversial, isn't it? I sort of enjoy it then too, bits of news. Because I think it's too I think football's gone too soft. Yeah, well, if someone died or someone got hurt or really hort or was damaged for life, I take that back a little bit. But I'm trying to say is I sort of enjoyed the the physical end physical end of things that's where it used to be every not every week stuff like that, but that that that probably wouldn't it would have been news back in the if he hadn't done this podcast 15 years ago, he would have said it, but now it's like oh what the hell? That's the fact of that the shock factor is a lot bigger than that. Yeah, so I sort of enjoyed it. Bones know him was really hurt.

SPEAKER_03 26:16

Yeah, that's it. And then look at yours mentioned that Celtic Rangers, and I was watching that then, and like it was actually a good nil all draw just saying, and they went into extra training. Look at obviously just say Celtic took back the pan of some ranges, and I was delighted. Now I was really delighted. Now we were not mad into Scottish football, but with the FA Cup on the weekend, we were actually able to watch Rangers and Celtics. We watched it, but then the Celtic fans went down, and then the Rangers fans came on hundreds of rather than masks on wasters. Now I don't care what anybody says to say the only came out and he obviously went to the game to cause trouble, yeah, and that's it. And then there's women and children all like there were seven and a half thousand puppy fans, and there were kids in the Celtic end out behind the go and all, and they would have been nervous now like that. So they're waste us for doing it. They let the game down like in the simple and let that clubs down. Simple.

SPEAKER_01 27:00

Yeah, yeah. Don't care anybody says, yeah, it's ridiculous. On the pitch, throwing objects into the crowd with women and children. Yeah, come on now.

SPEAKER_02 27:11

Because it happened after the matches, wouldn't they? They were fighting after the matches.

SPEAKER_03 27:16

Yeah, it doesn't matter how long you kept them there for the Rangers fans would have been waiting around. There's a reason why there's that many police at matches. And the Johnny solution, then as you were saying, and you what we were talking about, Judd Lake Hunter, is go back to what you did years ago and just have to stop the away fans counting the matches.

SPEAKER_02 27:29

I don't think it was only a couple of years ago, wasn't it? Banned as well. They probably, like you said, they'd probably both get fined and then the away fans will probably be banned for the next five years to go to all the armies like that.

SPEAKER_03 27:40

It had to be uh stringent on the follow-up to help.

SPEAKER_02 27:43

Yeah. So uh yeah, that's all the news. Like I said, there was a bit of news this week.

SPEAKER_03 27:48

Um mine was the best.

SPEAKER_02 27:50

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 27:55

With my brother Patrick.

SPEAKER_02 27:58

So uh yeah, I'm just gonna quickly go over the Premier League results from last week, Jordan the Week. Not gonna spend too long on them.

SPEAKER_01 28:05

Can't even remember them now. No, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:08

Well normally Jordan when it's Jordan the Week, we don't really spend too much time on them. Uh Barman and Brentman was a nil I'll draw, so that was come here, move on. Yeah, um everything got a good 2-0 win Hunter Burnley. Burnley sort of bit of a resurgence, so sort of hit a brick wall then, doesn't it? So he then gone. Um Leeds, I think we all put these down to win against Sunderland and he lost 1-0. He's a bit surprised now that they lost, but that's a big loss now for them. Yeah, that was a big win for Sunderland after the bad one of them.

SPEAKER_03 28:37

Yeah, it was a big, big bad bad result for Falayas as a as where we think they're gonna get all the points and stay up.

SPEAKER_02 28:43

It just sort of if they would have got something out of it, you might have thought alright they'd be safe now, but it just keeps him there, doesn't it? Yeah, um my result of the week then uh wolves meeting Liverpool Molly. Yeah, yeah, no, yeah, yeah. No, I could see why Wolves are getting relegated. Yeah, that's hell.

SPEAKER_01 29:04

Yeah, we've got to show you how bad Liverpool were. Jesus Christ, like that's a bad loss, isn't it?

SPEAKER_02 29:09

Yeah, it is, yeah. And they'll get a pretty we watched that on the Tuesday, we were like, ah lovely, great. Go out and get a result now, but then United went the loss to Newcastle 2-1.

SPEAKER_03 29:19

And they were worse than Liverpool, yeah. So we can't say we call this pay as bad. Like, I mean, as bad as Liverpool were against Worlds, United were worse because you're playing against 10 players in the second half.

SPEAKER_01 29:28

You were looking at it, he could have thought that uh United had the ten men not in Newcastle.

SPEAKER_02 29:33

Yeah, it was awful. But like you like we said the last couple of weeks, you've not been playing well, getting the results, didn't play well again the other day and got bored.

SPEAKER_03 29:41

Yeah, simply but some of the substitutions that were bad as well. Like you took Sesco up and put our Ahmad on, and he should have left the two of them on and took a fullback off.

SPEAKER_01 29:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:50

And with all the tackling, you're down to ten players, no there with a take.

SPEAKER_01 29:53

On what planet you you live on, you'd never bring Malisea on. And that's the reason why if a if a pitcher sent you a snapshot of him, he's I don't know what he's looking for. A ball boy, is it a ball boy or a something in the crowd? Because he's absolutely nowhere near blocking that shot.

SPEAKER_03 30:09

No, and heaven was a sub as well, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_01 30:12

Heaven's left foot. Yeah, that's right. Two years. Yeah, shouldn't it? Well, let's bring it. That was a disgraceful decision. So yeah. That's it. Well third, thanks for getting us that far so far, and hopefully you can get the Champions League. But as I'm always going to stick to it, and I'm gonna say it now. No, we can't get rid of them. Now, commercial end of the season.

SPEAKER_03 30:31

You brought a question in last week, Sean, and you brought Rachel on the Tuesday because we do this every Tuesday, United were playing in the Benzi, and the three of us were unanimous about um about saying that um no, we need something more spears than Carrick. So it's not as if we're jumping on the bandwagon just touching last in Newcastle. No, no, no. We've all all agreed on this beforehand.

SPEAKER_01 30:47

The last you know four terrible. I mean, we've said it every every week. Yeah, and look at Kamair. He's done well getting us this far, but again, you want to go back to the quality of the league for that.

SPEAKER_03 30:56

And look probably a kick up the arch you need. Sometimes that either brings you back down, or it's a kick in the arch you need. Yeah, the spoiler.

SPEAKER_01 31:02

A couple of questions now later on, so we won't go on too much which will help us discuss the barrier.

SPEAKER_02 31:06

Yeah, if that's alright. Then er a couple of two go-away wins, then Chelsea beating Villa 4-1. Again, we just think we said it last week that Villa are starting to be worried about. I think.

SPEAKER_03 31:17

Well, I hope you still fucking worried if I play at night this week, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:19

Yeah, true, yeah. But uh no, great, we went by Chelsea. And uh they played well against Arsenal, which sort of gave you the belief that they would go and beat Aston Villa. He did in fairness, yeah. And they only had 10 players, we were selling it didn't we? Yeah, in fact. I think for um Joe Pedro and whatnot. Yeah. Er then Arsenal, like I was saying earlier on with the Brighton game, the 30 minutes like 1-0 away to Brighton. Look at it. It was a big result for them, considered the man City drew 2-2 and not in the forest. Yeah. Oh, it's big three points, yeah. Yeah, just scruffy. Yeah, get through there, seven points clear now. And like I said, City drop points. It's in their hands now, Arsenal. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:57

If it was by City, if City won every game, then the end before that game, that and the end of the season, they would have won the league. Now Arsenal back in there. Okay, and they'll twist it, it'll twist again and it'll flip drop again. But run now is 29 games left. Eight games left for Arsenal. So realistically they could have a one in the next next six. They win the next six games, is it? Would it be? No, seven.

SPEAKER_03 32:21

Ah, probably yeah. Well to play City and whatnot, but it'd have to win seven games because they got twenty-one points.

SPEAKER_02 32:29

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. But uh yeah, like that they slipped up behind the forest, which could have been the result of the week as well. Forest were getting a good draw. They're at level on points now, I think, because it was four, I think.

SPEAKER_01 32:40

Yeah, we are watching.

SPEAKER_02 32:41

Yeah, it's very close at the bottom. Only one point behind Tottenham. And uh another team only one point behind Tottenham again. You could have got this as a result of the week. West Ham one away to Fulham.

SPEAKER_03 32:51

If you didn't see that coming. The few results that we didn't see coming. So actually, some of the teams at the bottom like that, like got a little bit of an advantage because the previous week none of them won.

SPEAKER_02 33:00

No, yeah, none of them won. So uh like it just means like a West Ham are toward the bottom on 28, not in the Forest down or above them on 28 points, Spores down or above that on 29, and then Leeds are 41. So it's like either way, there's gonna be a big club relegated between them four, like they're four big clubs, like so. One of them will be relegated, and if it is West Ham or Spores, with the stage as you have now, you'd say that'd be a disaster, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 33:28

100% if Leeds can Leeds can survive, um well then it'd be better definitely because it'd be a big shock as well, nothing for us even where to go down. The fact that last year they they they made the South Ireland and you they end up getting into playing in Europe and all for them to go down so dramatically, but then we know that manager and our own is a bit ahead case. But look as you said, it's definitely going to be topsy torvey and nervous at the the top, the champions league and the bottom. Yeah, I think so. So if nothing else it's exciting for that, even if it's a bad league, it's still a good league for to for Michael right down to the end. Ah it will, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:02

That's the outsider looking in, it's it's brilliant.

SPEAKER_02 34:04

Yeah, yeah. And um yeah, so then our little predictions then again for people that are now we uh do our put our predictions up on Instagram every week after the fixtures, so I'll do that now. I'll put them up on tours here Friday. And beside our names, it's a little number of points we have this year, so I got you. I think I'm wolves at this stage. I have 123 points. I only got one point last week. Villa, you got two points, you're on 145. And then Sean, you got three points, you're on 149. So 321, one two three.

SPEAKER_01 34:44

Well, come up with a punishment for the loser, you know. It's 44 bit crackly there, then I couldn't hear you.

SPEAKER_02 34:53

44 in the pink shorties, but uh, yeah, sure look at and we'll see what we can do on the next couple of days. You want to start playing it to swim? It's a good swimming cold lunch, but yeah, that's where you're going. Right, yeah, look at it. We'll move on to our questions then anyway. And uh, if anybody does have any questions, again you can send them into us on Instagram. Uh DM us or comment under any of the posts or send them into Sean. Sean has all the questions in your reads about them. Well, as much many as we can get through, or else we'll be here about three hours I'll be talking.

SPEAKER_03 35:28

But look at that, yeah. Look at and we can talk and talk, and that's it, and people know, and that's the way it is.

SPEAKER_02 35:32

But we get through them eventually. So, Sean, I'll know if you're ready.

SPEAKER_01 35:35

Yeah, uh, so just go a few questions again. Uh, if I don't read them all out, I'll keep some for all coming in, don't we like them fans? Thanks for for for writing them in. So this was actually from two a couple of people sort of said this in different ways, so um one to two of them, uh just numbers on the account, but anyway, but then there's another guy I actually know, so Glenn he he he wrote it and said, What's a fair punishment for Man City if they're found guilty?

SPEAKER_03 36:01

Relegation. Yeah, it's look it's have to be like you like obviously like we don't know the questions now, obviously no doubt, but 115 um cautions against them, isn't there? Like so depending on how many they get found guilty for, like, so but many of them found guilty for any of them and and and it's fraud, and at the end of the day, like so. I mean you have to be punished. Yeah, yeah. Happens a lot of just because I'm in you have to be so successful. So look at Leicester now and all and Shepherd United and all the other things that have to get inducted points over the over the last just say couple of years, they're no different.

SPEAKER_02 36:33

So yeah, same, yeah. I know I I can understand that it's a it's a different club that you're dealing with, like you know what I mean. Like it's like you said, you know, it's easier to give Leicester points, and I know it's not right, and it should be the same, but it is man city, isn't it? It's for the league, I know what you mean. Yeah, it is. I know I can understand why they're taking so long to do it. Like if this was full, and just say I'd say they probably have the points taken off them already. For years now, they have been the best team over the last ten years or so.

SPEAKER_03 37:03

It's a bit and look at career, but if you look like didn't your vendors get uh relegated to another division yeah, it's got down and rangers got relegated a couple of leagues well for for doing certain things as well, like that, breaking the rules. So Manchester City now different. The reason why it's gone on for so long is because the amount of money Man City has so they had to fight fight the case for a longer. The likes of them clubs you're talking about probably wouldn't have the revenue and it cost millions and hundreds of millions, you probably don't have it. Man city do. They're dragging around.

SPEAKER_01 37:29

I think, yeah, point seduction. No point in finding them because you just follow find up off the ground. But I will say is I don't want them to lose their trophies and give them to us. I give them to Liverpool and Arsenal or wherever else is that I don't want that's don't want that. No relegation. I want them point seduction. Um 50 points where if they wanted to go back to that far, just I don't know, some sort of compensation for for the they need to give if I want to get them money fine, give it to the clubs who give Unite 500 million, you know. You know, but like I just don't want to have to do with the pre-consuming. Do you know what? Just now in the now and that's it. Find them a hundred million as well, and and ditch them between allow the charge and then ban them from the next two or three transfer um seasons, yeah. So six transfer windows, something like that.

SPEAKER_02 38:14

Yeah, I don't know. That's like you said, to say pay compensation, that's where it gets tricky then with so these five charges have come over God knows how many years. So if they're getting points taken off them now and you get relegated, that'll keep somebody up, but then they could have got points taken off them last year or the year before, which could have helped somebody else stay up. Yeah, it is messy, isn't it? Yeah, messy. That's why I think you should leave it on.

SPEAKER_03 38:36

But then them them guys are claiming as well, like them other clubs and all that. That's it.

SPEAKER_01 38:41

Just leave it on, just get in the now, forget about what happened before, and punish them now for what they've done before, if that makes sense. That's it. Yeah, I think that's probably. And nobody can disagree with that. That's fair. That's what I think should happen. I don't know if I said it a few minutes ago a few seconds ago. That's what I think should happen. I don't like I'm just thinking what could happen as well. I think what they might do is they might give them a point seduction and a fine, but the point seduction won't relegate them. That's what I think. Did they have all your that'll be? Yeah, yeah, they'll they'll sus it out to get them to finish 15th or something.

SPEAKER_02 39:10

Or they might do, I don't know, they'll have like minus 40 points starting next season. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what you mean. Maybe next season they might start something like that. No, another whole season dragging it on maybe the year after they'll start off and the points.

SPEAKER_03 39:23

But you'd want to do something like that, but you need to be punished. Look, if it was any time, as I said, like if you know you did it, we're obviously my United fans, but we wouldn't buy to our time if they did it, we'd say the same thing. Yeah. Simple. They breached the rules, and you and if you breach the rules and you get caught, then you have to be punished. That's grand. Thanks for having inlets.

SPEAKER_01 39:40

Uh then they throw this one again to us, uh, another one into us. Um should VAR get involved in wrongly awarded throw-ins and corners.

SPEAKER_02 39:50

I think there is for next year, isn't it? For the corners.

SPEAKER_03 39:52

Corners, but not for throw ins.

SPEAKER_02 39:54

No, throw-ins now, but I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that from next season the corners are like if you if I don't know if it's going to be if the corner comes in, you score a goal, they can go back and look for it. Or if the corner's given straight away, and you can see a little ricochet, they can block. No, look, it's a goal kick, not a corner. Can they just tell them in the air?

SPEAKER_03 40:13

Yeah, that's what I mean. Like that shouldn't take five minutes.

SPEAKER_01 40:16

Maybe that's where the question's coming from.

SPEAKER_03 40:18

But looking that shouldn't take five minutes like goals to like no boom, goal kick, take the goal kick.

SPEAKER_01 40:23

Connor, is it give the kick? Well, it happens. We when we see it like and uh that should they see the players put their hands up and they should have been out of the corner, and when you do the replay, the commentators oh yeah, that that that that should that clearly hit off my clipped off, or you can see it can nearly clear his day. Yeah, you know, because it won't be you know the way so it should be quick, it should be quick, is what I'm trying to say. Yeah, yeah. So I think you should. Yeah, throw wins now, that's a bit getting too involved, but the but corners definitely. Yeah, you know, 100% so yeah. Agree with that. Yeah, so thanks. Thanks, Dennis, for writing into us there. Um next one, what need to do here now? There is a few United questions here. So, first of all, this is writing into us Well are United ready for Champions League football?

SPEAKER_02 41:08

Yeah, they are not.

SPEAKER_03 41:10

I don't think they are, but they'll have to behave to get there, simple as that. Do you know what I mean? Like so they'd have to be ready. Just Manchester United at the end of the day, like I mean I know like nothing forest to say, and that's the villain and Crystal Pallet and they're playing it like a year, and like I said, this sorry to the season now and and and they're in competitions, if you sort of feel it a bit, you say, Well, I don't know about United here, they have to be ready. Or making a house club, would we?

SPEAKER_02 41:33

Yeah, well, I think uh as fans, we all know that if they just say finish a third, fourth, or fifth, we're gonna be finished once you win the Champions League. As fans, we all know we need to go out and buy about seven players. Yeah, not starters summoning backups because of the Champions League during the week and etc. etc. Probably then why you'd say oh they keep it boy for another year just to have an extra player there, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I don't think the owners would think of that. I just think they'll look at it and think, oh grand 200 million. Back in the big time now. We finished third last year, Grand, we'll get four players in and see how we go. No, you mean six or seven players. Like Arsenal probably bought six players last year, Liverpool probably bought about six players. Yeah. So you need to not bother now it's best town bought now.

SPEAKER_01 42:16

Regardless of what you think about the slight nars, the start of this, I don't really give a shit what you think. But if you look at it, they're they're they're all their transfer windows up leading up till now, but especially the one in the summer, that's gonna could win them everything. Yeah, it was very good. So it was very good. Yeah, it was very good, regardless of the plan. Don't answer that question, as the guy says, that's what you know you should be doing. It should be, yeah. I don't I personally don't think already, but uh well, you have to be back. Yeah, even with um people that don't listen, only new listeners are or remember what I was saying, but my better half is from Poland and I go over quite frequently, but a lot of our cousins and friends over there, some are ex-professional footballers and all of it. I love having the chapter because they're all it's very diverse out there, like Bruce Norman fans, there's Brian Mewling fans, PSV fans, there's like Black Posnam fans. It's very but they all want to see United back in Champions League. If it ever comes up in conversation or a party with fizzy drinks, you know, they all want to see United back in the Champions League, you know.

SPEAKER_03 43:09

Yeah, but you won't, of course.

SPEAKER_01 43:11

They do say for my benefit, but I think they do, because they they like they would have been my age or a little bit older, they would have grew up watching United dominate, you know.

SPEAKER_03 43:17

So look, do you know what it is? We're we're not uh uh football football fans of Spanish football now. You'd like Real Madrid or you'd like Barcelona just say or Atletic Madrid, just say, right? But just say Barcelona wedding in the in the Champions League or Real Madrid wedding in the Champions League for a couple of years, you'd miss the minute. It'd be strange, yeah. No matter what, like some other people around you obviously missionite being in it. Yeah, they're the same type of club, wouldn't you? Only a different country. Like so it's cause you'd want them again.

SPEAKER_00 43:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:43

Yeah, no, thanks for that. Thanks for uh writing that in. So I'm gonna just send into us uh fella, Dave writing to us, but it's gonna bring Trevor into it as well the next two comments after. So he said back to a comment a few weeks ago made by Trevor, I think. Have you known have United fans? I was gonna say Happy United. It's been found out, and are we worried we won't get Champions League football? So it's a similar question.

SPEAKER_03 44:06

Look at committee that I would be concerned and not going to get it because there's still like three positions for four teams. If the four two positions are gone between uh Manchester City and Arsenal, well, obviously there's this four more teams in the running. Like Tate Brandford ever just say so you delights at Liverpool United Chelsea and Aston Village say. So there's three spots there, so so you know, we're gonna be a bit worried just early. But um you can't over worry like at the end of the it's football and the red year in the league now, they're putting themselves in a good position to get there.

SPEAKER_02 44:35

Yeah, no, yeah, it's really like you'll you would be worried and you just sort of have to take it game by game, but sort of it would be worse, I think, if we were like six points behind and having to catch up. Then I'd be like, Oh, I don't know if I'm gonna be able to do it. But the fact that we're toured and it's in their hands now, then it's just like right. Good on to probably just go out and do it. Like, I mean, like you have to play Chelsea, Liverpool and Villa. So if they don't do it, we can't turn around and say, ah, we were unlucky. If they don't get it, they all deserve to get it.

SPEAKER_03 45:03

No, and that's it. Like but do you know what I think as well? Um betraying all them teams, just aren't better than any of the others. No, I don't know. Like Liverpool are not better than United, United are not better than Liverpool, Chelsea are not better than Liverpool and United, or Aston Villa. Aston Villa are dropping off a little bit. They're all capable of having a good result, and they're all capable of having a crap result. So who's going to know what way it's going to go for the next nine games?

SPEAKER_01 45:25

Yeah, probably you. Yeah, I I am worried. Yeah, I'm worried it won't get but this is they must be scared me, they won't get Europe at all. No, but it'll get to a stage where like there'll be four games left or something, and hopefully we'll be we'll be there we'll be there. But like I won't be born to because Trevor has Trevor has a question now, I'm gonna say to him. I meant to bring it in now. Trevor asks asks a couple of questions. So uh are we afraid united are going into a bad run of form? So I think we are, and I know it's only one game, but we've been the performance have been terrible. That's been the the only one bad result. Barr West Ham. The Newcastle was a bad result, but we've had half the games Michael Carrick has been in charge, we've been great, and the other half have been shit. Yeah, it's the last four. We got born, so I think we are going to a bad run of form. Um so and which means we could lose the next three, and all of a sudden you're seventh, sixth. Gotten, you know, that might be a bit extreme. I don't know. It could happen. Maybe scar tissue, just I'm afraid. And I hope not, but what you did say there the teams around us that aren't going to win all the games, and we have to all play each other. So I'm still worried though. I'm worried that I think we'll get Europe of some sort, definitely, definitely. But there has to be champions league in it.

SPEAKER_03 46:31

Yeah, it has to be where they are now in the league now. So you think we're going to a bad running form? Yeah, well, yeah, I think they are going through a bad running form. This is why we know Cardiff is not the right man for the job. Um, it's the same team. Like looking at the Newcastle game, right? And I looked at that Newcastle game and I looked at uh Amran's last few games, and she wasn't still be the manager. There's nothing different. There's nothing different than that game that was when they lost to Everton home against ten players. So they are going through a bit of a a bad spell to say. And um, but maybe they'll defeat maybe they need it as well, because maybe they're just getting a bit complacent and everything. So do you need maybe they needed that. But this will prove now dependent on the city. That's what I'm hoping.

SPEAKER_01 47:09

That's what I'm hoping. It's just a delay from it. I'm hoping, but history will tell you a recent history of L that was gonna go on and well if you go on and if they go on and lose Aston Villa at home, then you say definitely you'd be worried.

SPEAKER_03 47:22

Yeah, definitely. This weekend is a big game now after after losing against ten players.

SPEAKER_02 47:28

Yeah, so no, if they are like you said, the last couple of weeks they've been brutal. Like they've been scraping through and late goals and goals from Cesco coming off the bench and Arsenal now. Yeah, a couple of dodgy decisions that have gone away. Even against Newcastle, we are shy, but then your man gets sent off a dive, and it's like alright, Grant to go on and win it. And we actually said it's here, and when you got the free kick, here we go. Castle Mirror front post, he literally said it. Yeah, it should be one-one, and then you you almost forget the first half. You go in and be like, look, if we got away with that, yeah, go out second half and just dominate them. But he didn't, and why though?

SPEAKER_03 48:02

I don't want to I why slow walk on football.

SPEAKER_02 48:07

Yeah, so I don't understand. I don't know, like it like you said, the game now on Sunday, they have to come out 100 miles an hour on Sunday because it's been nearly it'll be what ten days, two weeks probably already since he played. So they have to have done some sort of like mini pre-season for a day or two. But this is what I'm gonna say now.

SPEAKER_01 48:24

This is what I'm worried about. I wanted to bring it in that previous comment. What I want to say about United are playing fill it this weekend, then we bombers, innit? Yeah, then we'll not play for three and a half weeks. Again, because the international blocks only playing one game a week now. What that what are they gonna be like? They need to do something in that three-week period. I think that they need to do I don't know, a normal training session the first week, second week, kill them, and then light training and then into a thing. Well a lot they'll have to because they'll they're like they're very lethargic. I don't know what's going on. After three and a half week break, they can't be sitting in on in a beach. I can't say on the beach in Dubai, nobody will be, but um you know what I mean? They can't be in the south of France or something like that in a cocktail. They have to this is they'll throw this away, I'm telling you. Yeah, well a lot of you on the international duty, won't they?

SPEAKER_03 49:10

Yeah, they probably playing friendlies, and then some of them like be playing like for like in in World Cup qualifiers and all.

SPEAKER_02 49:17

And um I think after that the epic is the epic, yeah. Yeah, so yeah, so look at the.

SPEAKER_01 49:24

No, who'll have to do it. Who's in the international? Who actually gets called up over starting eleven?

SPEAKER_02 49:29

I'd say most of them.

SPEAKER_03 49:30

Bruno, obviously, Bruno and Bill Moby Cesco and all they all get, yeah. But it all depends on all them fixtures, so look at that all depends on the.

SPEAKER_01 49:40

Oh, Casamero He said it gets called, didn't he?

SPEAKER_03 49:42

Yeah, Lanew might this time. Yeah, they won't be playing friendly. So you know now, like, all this time off though. Look, at the end of the day, like the the had 13 days off when they played um Crystal Palace, yeah. And Crystal Palace played on the toast and you never win the game. If you didn't do it, and they're United lucky, as you say, they got lucky united in that game as well, right? Astonville, I think, are playing toast really. Yeah, um, and then they'll they'll come to Old Travel in on Sunday. So United should should should be there now, they should be there with the take and they but they want to go out and make sure they win. Maybe I'm being too negative, that's right. Previous comments before. Yeah, but the way you had them playing for ten years, have you feeling like that?

SPEAKER_02 50:17

Maybe it could be a blessing. That the like you said, it's like the struggling, struggling, struggling, and then he lost. So maybe it's like a a blessing that they lost in Newcastle before. Maybe they're playing. I hope I'm wrong, I always say I hope I'm wrong. Yeah, but wouldn't it wouldn't it have been worse? Just say if you would have drew against Newcastle, you would have said, Oh, yeah, that's grand. Yeah, we'll take that like good point or whatever up at Newcastle. But imagine he would have played like that against Villa and lost, and then you'd be gone. Sorry, away to Bournemouth, and then you'd have to like wait three weeks and you're playing lead. So maybe that loss came at a good time. Yeah. That they can actually have football cup here now. Yeah, fair enough. Yeah, you've got go three points ahead of them. What more can you ask for?

SPEAKER_01 50:55

Like that's it. They're a little bit back up then. Back and win away, yeah. Fair enough. That's what I really hope happens, honestly. Yeah, can't take it anymore. Um so another thanks, Trevor, another question from Trevor as well. If Bruno leaves in the summer, should we buy uh new number 10 or put Cony or Bemo there instead?

SPEAKER_03 51:15

Yeah, I would agree with that if that's what Trevor said at the end. I wouldn't work for little number 10 because realistically they're gonna need a left a left a proper left winger. So now, as it is, now they're playing Conya out there. Yeah. So say now they play dog a little bit, but he didn't buy him as a as a winger, really. Like, so he's out there just say, right. But now Cunha needs to uh a step, if they would get rid of him, they need to put the money into getting a left winger that's a fast left winger, an old-fashioned as Connor says a tricky left winger just say, and put Cunha into number 10. And then you say you still have a Baimo for number 10, and I'm sure Mason Melt will probably still stay in on a share with either, but he's still in number ten, isn't he? You can push Bain him up to number ten, you'd be really stuck just say, right? Because at the end of the day, like that money should go, I think, on a midfielder. No, sorry, uh if they did get rid of Cunha, I think that money should go on the left winger as an attacking player. Because surely you've got the already have a plan for the midfield without that. Yeah, because if like your first reality is obviously midfield, but obviously that that think about that. So you're just asking a hypothetical question that if you would if you would sell uh uh Fernandez did have the way a winger.

SPEAKER_01 52:20

Yeah, maybe ever going back and forward or something. You'd have to buy a winger.

SPEAKER_02 52:23

Yeah, no, I I think we said it to you on today, said I. I don't think I take it, you probably give him like a six out of ten this year, too, and he for what he's been like playing at United. But I think he's like that because Fernandez is playing where he should be playing. Like when he played by Wolves, he was sort of he was the player that was free to go on around and do whatever you want. Yeah, he's not a winger. No, a bit like Carl, Carl Parma's like that. He thought he doesn't play in the wing or he sort of just float around, like what I mean. And if you if you think so. Let Kiony do that because Keone doesn't track back around. He's a lazy balllock. Yeah, but if he's playing number 10, he can be tricky, can't he? He he can go out to the left and get the ball or the right or behind a strike or whatever. He has that sort of dangerous.

SPEAKER_03 53:05

And you don't have anything on the pitch, they're dangerous players that you can't track. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 53:09

And like when he does play in the left, we have no one on the left because he does come inside, doesn't he? Yeah, no width, no width there as well.

SPEAKER_01 53:15

So yeah, he does sort of hinder. So yeah, I think he would be the perfect number 10. That's what I think. I don't think we should put money into a new number 10. I think he should put the money elsewhere. Yeah, yeah, left winger. I think a left wing. Yeah, the left winger, yeah. Yeah, or put the money into the midfield, help put the money into the midfield. But I will answer this as well. I think if we don't get any travel reasoning, if we don't get Champions League football, I think he's gone. They'll probably, for two reasons, he might want to stay, and they unite need the money. Yeah, you know, like and there's a massive chunk of change there. But if we get Champions League, I I think he'll stay. But if he doesn't, and he and he has to go, I think Honey in there use the money to buff buffer up in other places. That's what I think. Yeah, 100%. Yeah, look at what I just said it. Yeah, I think we shouldn't be buying the number 10, it's too many. No, no, you know, I mean whatever like I think uh going to a summer transfer window, I think we have to obviously need a left winger, we did a proper left winger, and we need to put the same amount of effort in to the centre midfield that like we did to the attack last summer. Yeah, yeah. So that's just as simple as that. And I mean we probably needed another we need two full backs, we need might need another centre half, but the vital is I think it's midfield force and then the winger.

SPEAKER_03 54:24

Yeah, midfield and another attacker, definitely.

SPEAKER_01 54:27

Yeah, and we see what change we have after that. So yeah, we're just sort of going back and forward that was. Yeah, thanks, Trevor. Another one wrote into us now from Mark. He wrote into us. This is well not controversial, but it's um it's always been a question for everybody, you know, growing up. So I think why do you think Irish League football is pushed aside for English football? Other than the obvious answer.

SPEAKER_02 54:51

Quality question mark I just don't think it's funny like growing up playing football. You're never pushed towards the League of Orleans, it's always oh try and make it to England, isn't it? Try and make it to England, try and make it to England. So there's never a like there's nothing to push you down the direction of like League of Orleans or say when you're playing football. So like if the whole thing is to get over to England, that's how you make it as a footballer. You're not gonna watch the League of Ireland because you're sort of that's a failure, sort of, isn't it? Like when you're when you're growing up playing football, like if you can't make it to England, you don't even look at League of Ireland just because you think, oh I'm not playing League of Ireland, like you might as well just not play at all. Yeah, I think that's yeah. That's that's like now it could be changing nowadays. Like there's more academies leading from teams up to the League of Ireland teams, and there's a tour League of Ireland now, isn't there? With the other France is in, I think, aren't they? And Luke and United and something like that, like sort of trying to bridge the gap a little bit. But yeah, I don't know, you just sort of you don't look at the League of Ireland as a I love to play there.

SPEAKER_01 55:59

Yeah, I I slightly agree. I think that's never not that I was never interested in it, but like even growing up playing these teams at uh I suppose school boy level, but there was never a link between the pats we played and them and the fourth it's not it wasn't like the under 18th paths, it wasn't really, it wasn't. It wasn't I'm sure they were name, it was only a name, yeah, there's really yeah, but I don't I know I just never and yeah, your fourth thing is I want to get to England, I want to get abroad. I never never really looked at League of Order and stepping stones again, it just you know, it just never and the quality was all obviously all the good players go if you're good enough, you just go straight to England, like oh League One or League Two. So it was never really good football, even though it's getting better now, and thankfully it is, and players are actually making decent wage from it and a living from it. But I mean Mark having the app talking back and forward, and he's saying about back in the other day, you know, like this might help your your question, your answer. Like he he thinks that all our people should have more of more of a support for them because years ago you couldn't see as Manchester United telly, or you couldn't see you know you know that's going back a bit now. Yeah, but you could you could go up to Delyman Park, or you could go up to Richmond Park. You go and physically watch them, even include himself, you just ask them in general. It didn't happen. Do you have their fans? Of course they have, but in general, many Pats match matches have you bar playing have you went many League of Ireland matches you went to? Probably ten only, you know what I mean? So that's more the double, that's more of us put together, I'd imagine. Probably yeah, yeah, another way.

SPEAKER_03 57:26

So and then obviously you look at that button help you. Yeah, and I look we played the National Senior League, so I went down that road, so it was always at the same time because it's senior football. But um, as regards to the League of Ireland, you have to remember now, like realistically, like where we're the GEA country, more so than a soccer country. Yeah, so like most of the emphasis is on from the country onwards, like rugby is coming on now, like over the last years, but basically it's GEA, you know. I mean, the Holand and like anyway down the country, it's Holland and it and it and it's it's GEA. And then just like there can be no comparison between Lake of Oregon football and English football. No comparison. And that the reason why that is is it's not even out the quality and all to say, right? Because like most of the players that live here and go over to England, a lot of them come back. And rest down the academies like from there over there, they're actually there from the six up a day's ten, but it's still money. Like, like, like to the last 20 years, like the League of Ireland and the FUI have uh they haven't the infrastructure was never been put into it, like grassroots sport and then the League of Ireland. Now, now, as I said, and you said the second gun, it's really getting good now, like with the fans going out now and it's getting a little bit better. And the likes of Shamel Groves and Shelburne doing well in Europe, just say, right, it's pushing they were in a little before the side. But like if you take just say for urge and probably give them a bit of sponsor now, a big sponsor because you showed the matches on a Friday night. It was Archie up to a couple of years ago, now it's Fairgun. So, um, but you they can't not in a million years, but four million people down to a couple of hundred million people that live in England. Um, the television rights for sky alone and BT Sports alone and and and Premier Sports alone and all the sponsors they got there. Like they can go up and buy a hundred million pound players. If you put all the players and all the clubs in the whole of all the League of Ireland, it wouldn't be£100 million even if you put them all together nearly. Do you know what I mean? Like, so just never going to compete. And like it's it's down to just say money at the end of the day, but they're competing as much as they can as a guest there now as good as they can because now you can see the fans going back to the League of Ireland now, and it's getting a little bit better now. And you said they'll have a little bit more academy, so it's going in the right direction. That's entertaining.

SPEAKER_01 59:29

No, it's going in the right direction. I used to try I tried to watch Pat's years ago because of you, but to be honest with you. I just never talked to it. I just thought it was not going to say it's crap, that's not a nice way to say it, but just look, the quality didn't enjoy it. Yeah, you know, didn't enjoy it.

SPEAKER_03 59:41

I've tried to answer that question without mentioning.

SPEAKER_01 59:43

I know what you mean. I know what you mean.

SPEAKER_03 59:44

Do you know what I mean? As we always answered, like he was saying, like Mark was saying, like obviously answer like quality. So I was just trying to give a different answer. But uh but at the end of the day, it's still still not a quality deal. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 59:55

You're paying your money to go and see that giving you time to go and see these things.

SPEAKER_02 59:58

Yeah, and are we just uh as a country, are we just sort of maybe the FEI are and the League of Order sort of at a level now where they don't want to push it anymore because you know, like I said, is it worth a while? It's never going to be the Premier League, is it? So it can't be, but you should they'll get to a certain stage where it's probably League One level. Yeah, like just say definitely and you push it and you forward than that as a product, like probably not.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:22

What they are getting in there is a lot a lot more, they were saying, I don't know, percentages or anything or the actual facts, but they're getting in a lot more foreign players into the league now. Yeah. To come in, which that's good to see. It happened with Pays in Poland, like there's so many more diverse people coming in, like, there's lots of Brazilians playing in Poland and and the League of Ireland as well. It's not as like that's what I'm trying to say. That's a good thing to see because uh saying small comparisons between Ireland and Polish football, I don't know much about Ireland really. Yeah, but when my my wife was growing up, like when they the glad she went to school, but they could make it into the Polish League and make a career out of it. Make a living. But now the if if let's say or a cousin that's eighteen is decent football, if he can get into there, he's gonna be like really looked after if you get into it. So that the salary's gone up and up and up. That's why there's loads of more players coming in. So now I can see the League of Ireland there's foreign players coming in. So what's gonna attract them to it? Yeah, it's no money, it's it's a pay packet, that's all it is, and that's all it is. That's just call it's bad, it's better. You can live in the city and whatever else and blah blah blah and whatever you like, you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:27

That's like about you're it's not this not the south of France, like in Dublin, you know, not being bad, Dublin you love the place, but yeah your point with the like being a GAA country, and then your point with your saying with Poland, like the paths through. Like there's paths, like you can go to a school and like rugby school and you can make her up, yeah. Like you can play it at a GA club when you're a kid and make her all the way up to the senior team, and then you can play with Dublin or something like that. So there is that pathway through. Like you said, they're playing football years ago. Like you say, you're playing against Shelbourne, but they're not actually related to do you like Shelbourne at all, like you know what I mean? Like no, and then yeah, you're amalgamated, like when you play with Crumbling, like you're an amalgamate with Notten Forest and Kevin's or with Manchester City and stuff like so. Why were it League of Ordnance Clubs doing that back then? Like, you know what I mean? You should have.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:20

Yeah, because even when we play look even when we went to school years ago, and the Christian brothers ran their skills years ago, and the nuns ran girls' skills. Well, just talk about boys bought and just say that when the Christian brothers um to note in a million years would you have a soccer team in your school? Yeah, it was Halling or it was it it was GEA, and that was it. So you yeah, yeah, you never grew up playing soccer in school, so it was all based down to GA or Halling, and that was it. Yeah, so yeah, so you never really got a chance, and so so where's your soccer dress? Like, it's just like that. Yeah, and there's probably always like that, but as I said, like it is improving, so yeah. That know it is, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:54

Yeah, thanks for those questions there. Brilliant, yeah. Thanks. That's yeah, any more, send them into us, or send them on to Sean.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:01

Send them into a minute. A couple more, I could say, for just have a pile of them, you know, but always get back to them. But a lot of them do overlap and that, you know, and everything. So it's good to see the interaction, you know. Yeah, and we don't want to keep his hair with two and a half, three hours in the way. Yeah, yeah. Um we always keep it on we try to consciously try and keep it in around the hour mark. I think it's it's a nice, nice number, you know. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:22

Look, we do our best, you're trying to squeeze a lot in, and I hope our answers are satisfied for people, like and they're happy enough with the answers, and that's it. Not happy, you can always say that as well. Of course, if you're not happy with them and you don't agree with that, and like they can always just text one used to and wherever on Instagram, wherever they do.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:37

You get you set up and but uh yeah, no, that's that's all for this week. No, I don't know, it was like that. The Premier League's back there on the weekend, so we'll have a bit more to talk about next week in terms of Premier League. We're just looking before we go sports are 3-0 down after 15 minutes, and then after taking a goalkeeper off. So you're a sports fan. Oh my god. That's a disaster. But uh yeah, we'll be back next week with episode 40 and 40. That's mad, isn't it? Thanks, everyone, for listening to the last 29, and we'll go again next week.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:11

Well, yeah, all our loyal listeners, thanks very much. Thanks very much.