Episode 34 - Carrick is not the man

The premier league has finally returned and this week we took a look back at gameweek 32 and all the action. A weekend which included Man City closing the gap at the top as Arsenal lost at home to Bournemouth, Spurs’ hopes of survival took a knock, and Liverpool were able to take advantage of Chelsea, Villa, and Man United all slipping up. Our usual news section includes the champions league, Andy Robertson departure from Liverpool, and Iraola’s decision to leave Bournemouth at the end of the season. We finished as always answering questions from the listeners.

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:05

Welcome back everyone, episode 44, lads on the sideline podcast. It's me, Connor. As always, shining by me with Rashad. How's everybody getting on? Welcome back. And our fan of Oh, welcome back everybody. Sure, we'll go into the United again now in a little while. Look at the title of this is gonna be somewhere along the lines of Carrig is not fit for the job. Yeah, of course. I don't think he is though. Um look at questions and whatnot about that later on, so we'll touch on that later. But um look at least the Premier League is back, and we actually have actually had to put predictions up the other day. I was really forgetting how to do it and the the iPad and I was like, Jesus, am I doing this properly now? Back to normal. Update the scores and all, which we'll get into it in a few minutes. You're on holidays away with the United players, that's what it looked like anyway. For them, crazy, wasn't it? They were literally over here for a holiday, that's what it looked like.

SPEAKER_00 1:00

Welling around and now, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:02

A few points again, it's probably did you see the like the in like the so on in social media all the photographs? Obviously, they put them out themselves and that and whatever else, and you know, the outlets that they want to get um to put out pictures, they all looked in great crack, having uh in great stead. Like none of them I would have loved them to see them all mackered, put through their paces, you know, real good shots of that, but they're all laughing and joking together and high-fiving each other and all that. What type of and then they then go out and have a lethargic performance like that.

SPEAKER_00 1:29

Yeah, look as I don't mind that now, like fairness, right? Because it's if it was a bonding thing, like, well, don't you're all getting on to zero, right? But that's all right when you come to a first match and you're like a greyhound in the start of the match to the end of the match. So I don't think it did any good what you're saying. Yeah, um when you go out and you saw a target in the first game out of not playing for 24 forward for the heads. Well my here's my problem.

SPEAKER_01 1:53

I know you're right with that about um the bonding and my and the camaraderie. Yeah, that's fine if you're playing well, were second out of the blocks all the time. Yeah, and they were bored last night, and since nearly the we what we played well against City Universal, yeah, and then uh what was that what was that game? Fulham. Fulham not too bad, no, the last minute winner, but they did they done well in that game, but the rest of them are just so slow. The Evertons, like games like this, even Villa but it wasn't really a form of Newcastle. Yeah, yeah. That was all it was gone. Yeah, and we had some good results there, but not good performances. So that you know that's that was a nice looking at it. Like these lads are some played in international duty, some didn't. They don't look like they're doing anything. They look like they're having a hoolie. Yeah, but like you say, going back to your point, but haven't you know you've done that for years? Oh, they beat this team, they're doing this and all look at us in pre-season, and they're putting pictures of them in America and videos and whatnot, and sort of this feel-good factor and to just come to the proper games and then they're just crap like that.

SPEAKER_00 3:01

Fucking pitch, don't know what to do. And I and you know what? I don't even know what your questions are, Sean, but I'm sure like you probably have one about this team selection or something, or garlic or something, so we don't know what we're gonna what way we'll do with that now in a few minutes. But I just didn't think Anton really was right last night at all with the with the whole everything. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:18

Well, look at we'll just we'll save the United game till till the end, anyway, but we'll kick off our news. Thankfully, there's not too much news. There's been loads of news the last couple of weeks. But um this is the towards you see, things happen in trace. It's the toward week in a row now, we're talking about a player leaving the club. So it was Salah two weeks ago, Bernardo Silva last week. Now it's Robertson came out then during the week and said that he's leaving Liverpool and God knows where he'll go today. But uh again, we gave the other two Jews, so we have to do the same with him. I'm sure Liverpool fans of say a certain generation, probably all Premier League era, say he's definitely the best left back by far. Like you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 4:04

A great servant to Liverpool. Like it was the United player, you'd be saying the same thing, and the Liverpool fans, I'm sure you would, but maybe you don't we're not biased. And as much as we we do hate Liverpool, we give our honest opinion. And um as a servant in Liverpool, you can't knock him for what he did. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:18

I was going to be good footballer. If he was as you said, if he was playing below, I would have loved him that character fighting. I mean a bit old school about him, yeah. Obviously, as you get a bit older, like he's you you do drop off, and that's no problem. But at his height when Liverpool were going with Trent on the right, and they had at the time it's um Man A playing with him. Yeah, yeah. Salat and Marine. Yeah, it was stoppable almost, wasn't it? Like, you know, yeah, he was kind of a bit underrated going forward because Arnold was so good, wasn't he? Yeah, like but he was overall a better player because he could do both sides to end better, like you know. But oh look at he'll be another one that Liverpool will miss now and good. Yeah, no, yeah. Obviously, Kerrikas hasn't really proven it yet. Not yet. He's the he's the guard they have left back at the moment, I think. I don't know, yeah. Jesus Christ. Not yet though, yeah, not yet. A lot of pressure going through a club like Liverpool, to be fair.

SPEAKER_00 5:09

Well, it just means that you know it's another position they're gonna have to look out for now. Like they can't just keep one, so there'd be another one, they'll be going out with another left hole. You know, you could be looking at a left hole. I mean, it's just uh it's all boils up to the big competition in the summer, like it's just gonna be some summer transfer this year, isn't it? By managers, players, yeah. It's just gonna be so busy, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 5:27

Yeah, well very interesting, but the world cup as well. Deals will have to get done later. Yeah, well, our podcast will be gone up for hours at that rainbow transfers of the World Cup, so it's good for us. Yeah, gives us plenty to talk about during the summer content thing. Yeah. Um United now is to speak thankfully. Um we're gonna give a little shout out to Rory McElright. Yeah, and then the Masters again. A couple of people listen to us that like the L golf, so like he's in a bit of a league as all now, wasn't he?

SPEAKER_00 5:56

Yeah, he nearly tried around. I'm not I don't attempt to know anything about golf or watch golf, I don't even know. But I believe like he went you went two shots behind, and obviously like he did well to hold his nerve and hold his butt and come back and had to have a couple of bogeys now to win it. It's great. Yeah, exactly. At the end of the day, it's great.

SPEAKER_01 6:12

Yeah, we try to give to this might be a bit controversial, but the Irish sports star is a shout-out, so whether he's Irish or no, but he's gonna shout out anyway. There's nothing wrong with that, just be honest. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's it, you're right. Er Champions League then. It's confirmed now that the fifth spot in the Premier League will get the the extra Champions League spot.

SPEAKER_00 6:34

So that's great for Chelsea and Liverpool, isn't it? Yeah. One and them would be fine with that. We'll see how we're gonna be able to do three points behind United.

SPEAKER_01 6:45

You're right, we've got a few questions like about United, so we might keep a few of them is about Champions League. So yeah, exactly. Yeah, and then look at the same with the Champions League, obviously last week's fourth legs, and we obviously do this in the Tuesday, so Liverpool are on now later with PSG. So what do you think for the next two nights? Who's gonna go through? Any comebacks or what do you think? PSG will do it. I think Arsenal is will scrape through, but I wouldn't be some of them if if if they didn't go through and and Sport and beat them, they'd be like, that's yeah, that's Arsenal, that's the run they're on. I can't. But I think they're a bit too strong for the likes of Sport.

SPEAKER_00 7:20

Yeah, you know, yeah, and they'll win it. It'd be different if they lose them on, and you really had to, but sort of good at not conceding too many goals still. You know, I know just obviously Barman's got a couple of goals, but I think Barman would be a better team than organising than Spartan as well. You know what I mean? So we can definitely see Arsenal, I don't think so. But I can definitely see PhD, but the other game would be more interesting and it'd be still 50-50 because Barcelona I don't know, obviously they lose in 2-0 and if you play away.

SPEAKER_01 7:45

I think Barcelona's gonna go through.

SPEAKER_00 7:46

But yeah, it's like that would be a good game. It's on tonight, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 7:49

Yeah, yeah, that's tonight.

SPEAKER_00 7:50

Yeah, that's that'd be the game that you would still be 50-50.

SPEAKER_01 7:54

If they turn it on, they can score four goals and have it. But you know you have to. So they're gonna have to do this the thing. Going off game. I didn't think it's Champions League. If there is one team that can shut them out, it is Atletico Madrid, isn't it? We've seen it for years. So it'll be a good game. That'd be the game to watch, then obviously then tomorrow then the last one will be Boring Munich and Real Madrid again. In fairness, after that that match last week, is like whoever beats Boring Munich deserve to win it. They're the best team I've seen playing this year. Yeah, they are. But it's still only 2-1, isn't it? And I know they sort of tied with Madrid a bit and was like, ah, if you just beat them. If they really wanted to beat them 4-1, he thought they sort of thought he could have the chances at the end. Even they analysed them. Yeah, yeah. They were in Madrid, isn't it? Still though, like you can't write them off ever.

SPEAKER_00 8:38

But look at PSG. No, I'm not even gonna say you look at their players in the middle of the park, fucking hell, they're they're really, really partying to beat as well, isn't it? All good footballers, all great touches. Like we like it's a pity, like, because whoever wins in there between Boy Miller Red would be playing PSG in the semi-final, like it would have been a good thing.

SPEAKER_01 8:56

Yeah, no, I can't see PSG. Like, I wanted to write them off, yeah, yeah. But the way the league is gone, the way this this year's gone, Liverpool aren't full of compliments really. I think they could win against Fulham to be fair, but look, I can't see them. Well, you can't see them not conceding, that's the problem. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If I always wanted to do that, you had to put your house on someone, you can't can't bet it's no draws. You'd have to pick PHG, wouldn't you?

SPEAKER_00 9:17

Of course, a favourite, yeah. But I'm feeling like where they'd have good support behind them, and there's always good atmosphere there on the on the European night, so the crowd could play its part as well. You know what I mean? Like, especially Anthony could happen. As much as I don't like to say it, it could, so you're right. Yeah, yeah. But look at realistically, like you wouldn't get much of a price for Liverpool to go through like with Paddy Power out and that because they will be too nil and they're very good going forward, isn't he, PSJ?

SPEAKER_01 9:39

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, and then like if for for us um we did our predictions at the start of the season, and then look, it could still happen. Um but for the winners of the Champions League. Yeah, for the winners of the Champions League, yeah. Me and Villa put Barcelona to win it, and then Sean put Boring Munich, so it could be a final if we both of them could be a final. Could be you jumping in in the nip in the end. But uh yeah, they're all them. If people still want to keep an eye on them, they're still on Instagram, our predictions for the league table and the cups and player of the year and whatnot, they're all they're all on Instagram so people can have a look at them. Yeah, through them at the end of the season.

SPEAKER_00 10:17

We'll have a laugh, come through all them.

SPEAKER_01 10:18

It's a bit of crack.

SPEAKER_00 10:19

She's even them right.

unknown 10:20

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:21

That's for uh for people that are new listening to us. Um, you can follow us on the lads on the sideline there on Instagram and see all our predictions every week and whatnot. Uh last bit of news only came out a little while ago, didn't it? Uh is leaving Barmett at the end of this season, so I'm sure he's he's leaving for a reason. Yeah, of course, there's another job out there for him. Little spanner in the works there, isn't it? Uh I suppose. I wouldn't have even thought that I wouldn't have thought of him for the United management job, but it's a name in that. I think it wouldn't be forced choice either. Like I know he's done well with them and all, but it's a different animal altogether.

SPEAKER_00 10:57

Yeah. Long is he with Bournemouth. Uh maybe two or three years would you be too? Yeah, but if just somebody else before that, wouldn't he like in Spain, just as he so um so he has a little bit of experience and and like to be organising a good win there now against Arsenal the weekend and all and look, I mean if you look at the players that left him at the start of the year, the couple of centre halves and all in some men and all they go like to still be doing what they're doing. Yeah, like he's he must be able to get the best out of some of his players because I mean they all seem to be still a good side, yeah, hard side to be. So like he would some he will be in the hands, somebody'll be like that'll be hard line tomorrow now. Would he like look at it's Man United, right? I'm where I'm surmising this. This happened about probably three or four hours ago. And where are you talking about? And then tomorrow it'll be all over the place, and it'll be will he suit my united system? Will he do this? It'll be all it'll be we can predict that tomorrow already, like like will he suit United and he'd be saying, No, he plays a 4-3-3, plays a 5-3-2-1. That wouldn't suit it. Look, because there's another manager available, it's gonna be linked with United, isn't it? Of course, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:59

I prefer him over carriaging. I'm not touching that's another question, but if I had to pay key beef, yeah, well ahead. Definitely, yeah. Well, yeah, that's all the news for this week. So, um geez Finn, do you remember how to call out these results?

SPEAKER_00 12:12

Yeah, yeah, no, because I didn't I didn't forget to get me glasses.

SPEAKER_01 12:15

Yeah, but okay, we do. Uh but before that, just to let people know the uh the new listeners that we've had over the last couple of weeks. So we give our predictions out every week and we seek them up on Instagram and if you get a correct score right, you get two points, and if you just get the result right, you get one point. So Sean's sort of a runaway leader at the minute. Well, it doesn't mean he's miles ahead of both of us. Um I'm Claude and Is that a three I say there then? You Villa got three this week, Sean got four, and I got five.

unknown 12:53

Five?

SPEAKER_01 12:54

So Sean's on the field. Sean's on 163 points. Villa, you're on 145, and I'm on 149. There's only six points in it. What's the deal with the video's not exactly think of a punishment for the loser? That's what that's that's fair too for anybody that's new. Yeah, any of you throw them into us. Any suggestions? Throw them in with a place, the 40 foot, it's a coastal place, and it's you jump in, but the Irish sea isn't warm. It's free. So uh yeah, just letting people know that are new to listen over the next last couple of weeks. So uh you're still worried how to do that.

SPEAKER_00 13:38

No, come on, you're still worried. Six points is a lot. To get a point back every week, though.

SPEAKER_01 13:45

We'll go over it. Oh, yeah. Never asked that question Brian. Uh right, Finn. You find away there with the old results from the weekends.

SPEAKER_00 13:59

Well, look at have to give it to them West Ham. Great win against Wolves that we expected. I think, like I think now I put it down with a draw. I always thought Wolves will come back another little bit. But um, great win 4-0, very, very important win.

SPEAKER_01 14:11

Yeah, it was, yeah. And and I thought Wolves played well the four sort of I suppose the fourth half. They played it like a team that were free, not again, relegated, and but he played it like a team that had a bit of freedom. And the man's actually the more I watch him the amount Golem is in the middle, he is a good player, and he would be better with a better team.

SPEAKER_00 14:29

Busy, isn't he?

SPEAKER_01 14:31

Diamond or off, sort of in a way. But yeah, I wouldn't be surprised either. Like Fernandez as well in West Ham, he's the same.

SPEAKER_00 14:40

I think he's another good player. Look at Camille, like it was he scored an eight goal in the first half, didn't he? Like 40 odd men and was gone. And Wolves probably could have got a chance to do before that. So look then we get the first goal, isn't it? Yeah, I was really always a mattress, but it was great win for West Ham. Yeah. And then look at Parmount, we're only talking about the manager at all, but like doing away to Arsenal, great win. Great win.

SPEAKER_01 15:03

Well that's my result of the week, anyway. Yeah, that was a great win. No one would have expected that really. I know Arsenal and are a bit rocky at the moment, but to go and beat them. And deservedly beat them.

SPEAKER_00 15:14

It's not only their second home defeat the season, or is it second, yeah?

SPEAKER_01 15:17

Yeah, United beat them, and then then that's what I'm saying. Like this time of the season is that I got to go. Another set piece of a goal that he scored. It's crazy. That's the only shot on target as well, wasn't it? Panel wouldn't know how much it wasn't at all. I think it's one or two, yeah. One or two. But that was there, yeah, after an hour or so, I think it was. That was it. But Barber played very well.

SPEAKER_00 15:36

Yeah, and deserved it.

SPEAKER_01 15:37

Yeah, yeah. That was the foreshot, wasn't it? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:40

You need to go play a man, Scott. Well, you probably would now you would now know. You could leave now that the man just gone, I don't know if he's contracting on him. But the more you look at Barnberg, the more you see him, he's a player United could look for as well.

SPEAKER_01 15:53

Right, it depends on the price. You know, you can't go out and buy Martin Anderson Antonali. You have to be realistic. And that's just mentioning some of the high cost on players. Someone like him might be a nice addition to one of those. Plus a gomez, maybe anyway they're getting if you bought the treatment, you can get if you bought the treaty, you like the price of two of those. That's what it makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 16:13

You know, you need look at where you need back up as well.

SPEAKER_01 16:15

Yeah, well, they're gonna have to tell you if any man, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:18

He his injury records not great, you know. No, look at the man just like we missed him last night as well, didn't you? No, we'll get into that now in a few minutes, but but as a guest going back to like class itself as well, it starts with him, and it's a challenge. Like if you go and go to United, or so you said Scotland and say, look, go there now and like there's no one problems forcing football on anything, no matter how you are, like even if you got fucking Tanaria, if you got Anderson like and you're struggling, like you'll be dropped, like no one is guaranteed. So there's always chances available to take. Yeah, definitely. Like, but I mean you said it and you said it, Connor, as well. Like, we definitely need uh two midfields filled midfielders plus if we can get them, like definitely.

SPEAKER_01 16:58

Yeah, we said last week Arsenal's bottle is starting to sort of show a little bit, isn't it? Starting to crack a bit and Jesus, it's definitely, isn't it? Three domestic defeats in a row. Yeah, and obviously the game now, the weekend's a big one against Man City, but you really have to get their act together, don't they? That game there will have to go all over him. Didn't it? The whole stadium just looked on edge and felt on edge. And I've said it, I think might have said it last week and said it's too during the week again. Arteta in his press conference just looked like he needed a shave, and then after the game, he was bouncing around, giving his interviews, stand still talking, he's not he's pressure side.

SPEAKER_00 17:35

Yeah, he's just looking to him a bit looking. He's not able for the pressure. Yeah, and there is pressure on the matter, in fairness to him, just say, right? Right, he's had to try so long, so hard, building this team now, that if it's falling apart at the end now, like he's probably not good enough then deep down, right? But he's had to get him this far, just say to tame you, like now they've no leaders really, but surely they've got they have a team there good enough to be beaten because of Parliament. Really coming up to the end of the season, that was a really bad result. Like they're still Arsenal that spent millions, hundreds of millions this year with a big squad. It was just a bad, bad result. Games are not really showing a few colours, I think.

SPEAKER_01 18:14

Yeah, when it's when they really need to be winning. Like for sure. The last couple of years, like do you ever see teams and you go close and you're like, ah, next year they'll probably win it? And then they and no, like Liverpool a couple years ago, you sort of knew they were going to win it the next year and whatnot.

SPEAKER_00 18:27

Like, yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_01 18:28

But like Arsenal have failed the last couple of years. Have they not learned anything from their mistakes? Like, I know like you need like none of them have one leagues or maybe one or two have elsewhere, and you can sort of fall back on those players. But like, surely when you look back at last year and think, right, what did we do wrong at the end of last year and the year before? Don't do that again. Yeah, like you lost a home to villa last year around the same time, and that sort of just knocked our title challenge completely. Now it's another home defeat again. Like that's David Ride the second most amount of touches, isn't he? Yeah. Yeah, doesn't he? Like, yeah, that's mental. Yeah, back passes to wasting time when it's nil all. Yeah. From throwing to being negative. They're taking their time when it's nil all.

SPEAKER_02 19:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:10

These are supposed to be throwing the Premier League champions. And they might they might grow the lions still, I don't know. But it's it's in City's hands now again now, isn't it? More or less. But look, if you do grow the that's not the only way to play football, they'll alone try and win the league.

SPEAKER_00 19:21

It's a negative league this year, again. And if City do go on and win it now, and they're the thing now, they're starting to go forward now, which they are with the looks of them just saying they do win it. At the end of it, they'll still deserve it because they're the thing that Arsenal are not going to win the league, they're just trying to struggle all the time. They still have an opportunity to go and win the league.

SPEAKER_01 19:41

You said they haven't earned that not yet, anyway. Unless they change something, man. Let's go and beat them come in to leave the weekend.

SPEAKER_00 19:46

That's it. So there you go. So look at Brantford and Everton and look come here. Like we wouldn't even say it, but like even further likes in Liverpool and United and Ireland, Chelsea and all. Like if Brantford do the one and they had an extra two points, they'd have been like really up there as well. Like pushing for now, the Champions League spot or are or are definitely into the top six in the Europa League Sport. But look at Everton scored a negal resident goal in it the last kick of the game when it was two all. Yeah, that just leaves them up there as well, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 20:10

Yeah, it's all many. Oh, yeah, two. That's all it needs to be two points that came from, yeah. Yeah, it's a light because then I had two one to Brentworth. There you go.

SPEAKER_00 20:24

I got no point with that when it was nearly on two. That's an ad, isn't it? Yeah. Very good. And then look at um Borneum and um and Brighton. We thought I don't know, we thought Borneo might have like nothing delayed now, they're nearly gone, but Brighton is there to get a couple of results, isn't he?

SPEAKER_01 20:38

Like another thing that like I'm sure there's plenty of teams there to think we can get into some sort of Europe. Yeah. And Brighton are another team that we'll be looking at thinking, well, if we play well and do our do what we can do, why can't we finish eighth or seventh? Well I'll tell you it's between I think this is correct now. Chelsea are sixth. And 48 points. 48.

SPEAKER_00 21:00

Oh, you have it there, sorry. Yeah, you have the table, don't you? Right. And and Brighton are ninth on uh 46th. Could anyone four though? Where is Newcastle? Newcastle are way down at a fourteenth. And how many points are they?

SPEAKER_01 21:12

So the six points between fourteenth and sixth. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah, it's it's been like that all season, but more or less, but still like that. And that yeah, you're right, kind of that's my point. I'm trying to say any of those teams from 14th to sixth can get Europa League football. Yeah, but even if you higher up can still get Champions League football if you put a push on, and depends on the results. But do you know what I mean? Newcastle can still in 14th position still get Europa League spot. Yeah, it's mad.

SPEAKER_00 21:35

It's mad, isn't it? And Sunderland, you just say, like, if you got a good win, just say whatever it was, like the weekend, just say no, it's our sports, you say, right? Well, look at day 46 points as well. We told you two games before I said, How long are you two points behind? Sixth.

SPEAKER_01 21:48

That's mad, Iris. Jesus.

SPEAKER_00 21:50

Do you know what I mean? Like we're saying, if you go to the mod, the slow the teams there are still fighting for your span to league as we keep saying this, it's still entertaining because it's The end, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_01 22:00

And this is I don't know again, still going back to the United match, but you still have to play all those things. Yeah, yeah. That's like you keep saying to the people of Poland and all, like I suppose if you do alright, take the quality out of it. The relegation is interesting because of sports and all. The title race is mad because Arsenal looked like they could be falling apart. And then, like you said, every other team could finish in Europe. Anyone can be as an outsider. If you've no affiliation to the league, if you if you're sports, Bayern Munich or something and watch them because everyone likes the premiership. Like it is, it's it's it's interesting, I suppose. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:34

It'd be interesting right to the end, then anyway. Yeah, and then look at I I put this down as a 2-0 win. I just thought Liverpool would have been a straightforward win, and we could come in it was 2-0 a half, and I was only surprised that the didn't come to the second half and score, that we didn't see the game. But look, I watched it. It was a 2-0 win.

SPEAKER_01 22:54

But then when we watched them against United and you played well, like you just didn't play like that at all. Like it's Wilton was poor and everything.

SPEAKER_00 23:01

Like it's just they're a bit poor going forward now, like as if to say like the air safe and all or something, and they're just like that's it. But like it was just like big win by Liverpool.

SPEAKER_01 23:10

Yeah, everybody else dropped points around them. So that's all they done, they got that win out of the way.

SPEAKER_00 23:18

Three points on the board. Well, look at we would have we would have thought that one might have been a tough tough game for um Liverpool considering the way they're playing. Yeah, and then like if Fulham would have won the bottom of the 47 points. Do you know what I mean? Like, there would have been another team in the mix. Yeah, and you think they're having a crap season, like they nearly think they're at relegation, but no, they would have been 47 points. That's how bad the league is, how low the points that they share that didn't get it, yeah, places.

SPEAKER_01 23:41

Yeah, you know. Big win for Liverpool and slots, take the pressure off in a tiny bit, I think.

SPEAKER_00 23:46

Yeah, definitely. And then look at Man City, I think I think we all might have put that down with a win, we wouldn't have just three-nil exone and I'm sure it could have been more, but look, Chelsea are struggling as well, isn't he? That's not playing great either.

SPEAKER_01 24:02

Yeah, well they're uh like we keep saying we go on to the United game, but the f the you wouldn't be overly confident in United getting into the Champions League from how they're playing. But just the fact that Chelsea are playing so bad, yeah, you can't see them turning around at points, can you? Like it's not as if they've six about six games left to play, United are gonna win five, Chelsea are gonna win four, and that's how United will get Champions League. It'll be a case of they probably win two each, and that's it.

SPEAKER_00 24:28

Like two and draw two, like, and Aston Villa are the same, the other pillar are the same. We keep saying that just none of them are better than anybody else, and they're all capable of them results that you know you got last night because it happens to them all.

SPEAKER_01 24:39

None of us are afraid of each other, don't think, either. Especially after last night results like Chelsea aren't gonna look unit. If we had went out and beat Lee's 4-0, they'd be like, they're still picking up points and they played well, but they we lost, so why can't they go and beat us at Samuel Bridge? That's what I'd be saying in the draft. Oh, yeah, and you need to, yeah. It's hard to have a great record at Sandler Bridge, but it's still pick up, we could still win. Yeah, yeah, before you wouldn't be able to get it. Well, do you know what we're gonna draw at best, you know?

SPEAKER_00 25:06

As bad as it is, like we were all saying, like, we missed Harry McGuire, yeah, right, last we were talking about the United game now in a minute, but like do you want to have your head on all, didn't you?

SPEAKER_01 25:14

Like, but we can have that now in a few minutes. Well no, it could have been about City though, wasn't it? That was a put up more as we're gonna dislake and simple as that. Statement when that's what I was saying. Yeah, I thought I was looking at them as well. Like, you are obviously they're great footballers, Roderick and Cherky and stuff, but they're a big team as well, aren't they? Like just like Semenyo's big and strong, and he Al and Rodery. Nico Roilly. Yeah, he's a big unic as well.

SPEAKER_00 25:38

Yeah, that's kind of a good target. Targo just runs around mad on the thing, and he's nobody just gone to jail. Like they are a big physical team, aren't they, as well, Nick? In fairness to the same tonight.

SPEAKER_01 25:57

Yeah, yeah, man. That shimmies all the time into his right. Yeah, doesn't do anything else. Can't defend against him, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:04

But um, and then look at good crystal pallets now. They scored score two leg goals, they get like Mateta again, another two, no matter what way you look at it.

SPEAKER_01 26:13

Well, we like the three of us put that down as a one-all draw.

SPEAKER_00 26:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:17

They scored in the last minute, yeah. I don't know whether it was that his second game back metheta, I think. I think he played during the week after his injury and he scored twice as a day. He's four and two now, isn't he? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, something like that. Like, yeah, so you can they could probably nearly sneak into Europe again that in the Conference League or the Europa League in the Europa League, so they're having an enjoyable season for the fans, I think they're honest again after having to lose losing certain players and whatnot.

SPEAKER_00 26:44

Yeah, and then looking when you're when you're doing that now. Look at you do you have a game in hand with the game in hands you can see, isn't it? Yeah, so they have that 42 points, so they're safe. So they can concentrate on the on their cup, can't he? Yeah, on the country's league, like on the cup. So I can't think of a minute, you know. Yeah, well, do the teams at the end of the room. If you wanted the favourites for it, then you wouldn't he? Like, yeah, yeah. And then look at uh nothing for us, it doesn't make any difference. Like it's another point. We always say, like, Attinville are going for Europe as well. Like, so to get a point at home, like you would have taken it. You know, like you would have took it.

SPEAKER_01 27:19

I would have taken a draw last night. You know, it's bad any points on the board at all.

SPEAKER_00 27:23

I said to the column last night before the United game, I said these can be tricky games. I says, if you if you're not gonna be able to win a game this time of the season, don't lose it. Yeah, you can't lose it. So we're trying to pick points up in every game, even if it's on your draw. Forrest played well. I thought he deserves at least a draw, if not the win.

SPEAKER_01 27:41

But Gee's villa had two great chances then, didn't he? Yeah, watch them, wouldn't he? Morgan Rogers and Watkins.

SPEAKER_00 27:46

So how would Morgan Rogers hit that over the bar? So he jumped in the six-yard box, it just rolls out from playing with roll the bar. All the players and hope like he should have just even in the goal, shouldn't it?

SPEAKER_01 27:57

And then Watkins and after that play, you threw one-on-one like a Delow haven't a shot, just buries it all across Barney.

SPEAKER_00 28:04

He whacked it all across by the so they really could have got the three points there. Thank God you didn't, obviously by United. Yeah, yeah. And then look at that the the the the before we get United game, Sunderland piling the pressure on sports. I mean, like piling the pressure on the biggest.

SPEAKER_01 28:22

Two points behind. Yeah, so like it's I I I I put that down to be a draw, I think. And Sean, you said Sunderland had been. I I had a sort of sneaky feeling Sports might have won, and if they would have won, I wouldn't have been surprised because the Zerbi was in, etc. etc. But yeah, Jesus doesn't look like that and change at all.

SPEAKER_00 28:40

No, and Mero going off injured and but the season now as well. Like just a big lot, the captain got in the season, and it doesn't seem everything doesn't seem to be gone for them at all, doesn't it? Like they really couldn't. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:52

The other things around them are used to this yeah, right? Relegation fight, like they're not used to this at all. Like having improved them last year, I don't think I know what they got on top of injuries and all, but still.

SPEAKER_00 29:02

Look, you can either take Leeds out of the equation out the torches expanded. He will pick up another couple of the same, but they looked well, they looked as if they had something about them last night. Sort of forests and West Ham it's like yeah, they're they're playing well for that. Like but if Leeds used to go, just say we said this a couple of years ago, didn't we? There's a big comic up going down between nothing, forest, West Ham, and and and sports. Yeah, if any of them but everyone go down, like if you're taking these out of the equation now, could you think two four to six points and we get another couple? That's one big club like going down now, like especially for us getting into Europe now so high to go out, if they got relegated, they would be a disaster. West Ham as well with a with our club and the fans, 62,000 he'd get every home game, just certainly well supported big club. But sports go down the club. And the Spores go down, that's probably the biggest relegation in Asian history.

SPEAKER_01 29:52

It's such a I just comment to me there. Just say Spurs were really getting relegated. What would be a bigger shock? Them getting relegated or a Leicester winning the league? Like if you think about a Leicester win the league, I don't know what they got 80 odd points or something. Spores literally only have to get 40 points to survive. Yeah, I think Spores can't even get 40. Going down with a bigger shock.

SPEAKER_00 30:12

Yeah, what do you have? Andy won the Europa League. Yeah. Only last year. Yeah. Chill and probably won a couple of the force matches as well, did he of the season? Like, I don't know. We still haven't won a game this year, have you?

SPEAKER_01 30:24

Well I saw a statue today. It's the middle of April. Yeah, I saw a statue today. PSG have beaten more English teams at home this season than what sports have. Oh my god. Yeah, bad, isn't it? Like there's the the fixtures the weekend. Leads are playing a home to wolves. Yeah. You would think they'd beat them when you're playing. That could be when that could be enough to keep them up. Yeah, yeah. Sports are playing Brighton. Burnley. Um Bournley. Yeah. That's big. Sports are playing a home to Brighton. They don't win a home. Yeah. Brighton are playing well. Jesus Christ. If Leeds win, for example, then and a draw. Like there's still two more points ahead. Like, maybe I don't know. Yeah, if you could.

SPEAKER_00 31:08

Look, if you were a sports fan, you'd be nervous. If you're a West Ham fan, you'd be nervous. And if you're not in the forest fan, you'd be nervous. I wouldn't imagine that the Leeds fans they'd like to be like United going to the Champions League up there, and like Leeds fans for going down. They're obviously nervous still as well. They could capitulate and lose the next six games, you know what I mean? I don't think they will. But last night was a massive win for us. Well, the next two games is a hundred. And deserves and Borney. Why the Borne is look at that's I'm assuming that's the last match, is it? United then last night against Leeds. And Leeds got exactly everything they deserved out again.

SPEAKER_01 31:40

I was just about to say that, yeah, because I'm sure we'll touch on United's point of view in the in a minute, but it should have been three or four in the half time. Yeah. They were the miles the better team. With no excuses. The red like a the red card was no excuse, we were shy before that. Yeah, the sleeves are better than us. They wanted them more, they were hungrier, played better football. We were weak at the back. Did old-fashioned things where they got the ball out wide and put crosses into the box. Like you said, United don't stop crosses for one. And centre half in general nowadays just don't know what to do when the cross comes into the box. You don't mind the striker. Striker's always behind the centre half. Not just United, like any other match you watch. The centre half isn't marking the forward anymore. The centre forward is behind the centre half. The fullback was saying about Masrawi, wasn't he, for the force goal? Yeah. Yeah, why is he not side on? Like he's just completely looking at the ball, hasn't a clear way of man is. Like he his back should be towards the United goal.

SPEAKER_00 32:37

He's very parallel.

SPEAKER_01 32:38

And he should be facing the lead goal so we can see both left and right. But he's not, he hasn't a clue. I don't know. I know people who listen to us now probably think it was. I don't know, it wasn't. Give it over. If it was talking about them, it was given, I'd see how it was given, but at the same time, like maybe it's just playing centre half. If Calvin Lew can can be big and strong like that, then Yoro should be as well. He's not, do you know what?

SPEAKER_00 33:03

He's a he's a player that you're right as well, Strongly. He's a player in the making down the road. Just say we missed Harry McGuire last night, or we missed a delit, that would have been plowing Camille. Caballoon was a good game last night. And Martinez wasn't at the races at all. So every time they got the ball, even played a launch there, right? Lays would sometimes just say, Should you want to have your header? Cavalion was making me just win your header, and this doesn't happen.

SPEAKER_01 33:27

If you get an elbow in the nose, but you get to get hit the ball out, even go for the corner, it doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_00 33:31

Get your terrible, terrible header. But he's weak, isn't he? He's too weak. He has to bulk up obviously in the next couple of years. As good as he is, he's only 19. Not have a goal. It's just yeah. And then look at what can you do with my team as we saw you not much of it at all. I didn't have a good game at all. I know he said to a third goal would be fucked up for a half-time. I could have been three right or just walking half-time, but he didn't have a good game because like he hasn't been playing for for months, and then he hasn't even been a sub, and then he just goes straight on from a training camp. Wasn't fit enough. The team section was was terrible, but we got that now well, wherever, but I mean what's his like I'm telling you, and then put playing your guard in the middle of the park. Yeah, like um his forced that's his first start under Carol, I think, since Carrie took over in January. It's just not good enough. He's just not good. I know many new go in just, but you could have done something else. So I mean like I thought you could have played heaven sent a half instead of Martinez and brought Martinez down for half now just to give him a bit of game for him. But look, the only thing is like um the game itself, after 24, they had to work hard. It probably didn't rule good for their fitness. That's the only positive I'm taking over last night because there's nothing else you could take care of it. After 24 days, now they'd have to play in the game, that was a proper game. Somebody else could take care of it. Lee's just deserved everything they got last night.

SPEAKER_01 34:49

But that as a positive, and the other positive, and this is more of a hope of positive, is that your man Ratcliffe was at the match, and surely they have to be looking at that thinking the performance of the last couple of games have been poor. That nothing changed there whatsoever. Like when this team was the exact same at halftime, no meat or shocked. So surely between him and Barada and whoever else is there, surely they have to look at that and think he doesn't really know how to change games, does he? He's afraid he doesn't know what to be doing. The players will walk all over him. You can't be doing this. And he's sacked. By kicking the can down the road, 18 months selling a road.

SPEAKER_00 35:26

You're right, Connor. Too slow making substitutions, like and then in in-house substitutions when the game was going on. He didn't know tactily how to uh do anything.

SPEAKER_01 35:35

I thought the game was terrible. I thought that was the worst first half of football I've seen. Especially definitely under him, but all season. Yeah, 100%. Disaster classes and so that was the worst. That was the worst. Just be a final down. We're going through the mall to keeper made it a couple of half decent sizes. It was a bit ropey as well, which we won't go in on them, right? Fair enough. He's probably allowed one of two. Luke Shaw makes him not been on the pitch. Yeah, he's terrible. Mastery didn't. I actually said why not we put the low on. That's bad. And that's insane. We slate the low.

SPEAKER_00 36:10

So people listen to us on the podcast, but now he wouldn't be a four size to be playing because we'd be always called with Master Rowdy, but it goes to show you. Like he definitely wasn't up to up to the fitness of that game, either.

SPEAKER_01 36:21

So maybe that's what we have to think about. Like maybe they've seen things and trying to do it. Yeah, we have nothing else. The low is he's fit, yes. He is fit, but the two cent a halves, you're a nightmare. Oh, the man nightmare. Actually, when you know he actually played better when he went down to ten men, but we went to midfield, Casemiro and we scored another goal, but he was trying to make things happen, don't overlaps and all that. He's doing too much. He's closing down goalkeepers now, yeah. And you have a head case of a lunatic next to you, Lou Garthie. What do you see? I said this to audio and Trevor, you wrote into a couple of a couple of questions set to him before. We need Casemiro to have a disciplined game. We're gonna crumble in the middle. Man Tanakh, thank God. When he got taken off, that's when he started getting on top of the game. Yeah, who is he? If we've seen him on the street, it wouldn't know how he is. He played a great game, though. Yeah, brilliant. But it wasn't not saying it wasn't that hard, but it's easier when you're when you're when you're a few minutes gone a lot. Yeah, and Garret didn't only start on him, he has to go. That's the worst piece of business we've ever done. Him and Anna are nearly neck and neck, I'm telling you, I hate that on Anna fellow. Yeah, yeah. To transfer that that was uh dead. Do you know where they'd be better?

SPEAKER_00 37:27

I'm gonna give you a laugh here. Do you know where they'd be better as two players who just still be united? Right? If Anana played in the middle of the park and he got goal, uses that the position was the same.

SPEAKER_01 37:37

Well then Bruno, got the Bruno, he just had an an off game as well. Another assistant of it, but he was getting frustrated, he was coming past in the second half, coming past nearly turning. Dropping, sorry, yeah, dropping past Casimiro and Lugarte to get the ball to hit it up to himself, it was not there.

SPEAKER_02 37:53

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:53

You need to give it over, and they're giving out. Yeah, when he gets frustrated, you never he he loses his concentration because it's all about giving out to the referee, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 38:01

Amad May's on the pitch, he needs a kick up the arse. I don't know what's going on, what people are seeing in him at the minute, he needs to be dropped. And Biom wouldn't do much better when he came on, but he's not he's not even taking on anybody, he didn't take on anybody. He had a couple of chances now coming in on his left foot, and they were awful. Yeah, and Conya didn't really get too much, he tried a little bit, but he didn't do too much, and then Cesco didn't have a good game either. He lost every header, he was too weak. Not saying it's the same in general, just a bad game. Yeah, look at it. So the whole lot of them were awful, yeah. And he to them from all them to the managers. Why? I don't know. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:37

And you know what? Maybe you needed it. So because you were getting lucky results without playing well, yeah. Like if you look at all the last results because we keep saying the last week, the week before, the week before we said, We're getting good results. Well, just say it wasn't a good results against Bournemouth, but we took her as a good result because the way the rest of results went that weekend. So we'd say, like, a one and look at Death Barnabot winning the arsenal, we do away with them on all, and we and we'd say, Um, um, we didn't play well, we haven't been playing well in the last uh six, seven games. So last night we just got we did what we deserved. Lee has played well, and I mean we four points out of the last twelve.

SPEAKER_01 39:11

Okay, you go. That's it, isn't it? Yeah, try to talk in trouble last night for anything any aware of that. I was like, Jesus. That's that's awful. That's why I mentioned I mentioned last week. Uh I did I don't really comment on stuff, but I commented on the thing on YouTube. Yeah. Something what was his name? Chris Flake or something comment replied to what I said. So basically saying that um United should get a C or a D this season as a rating for the season. And he was like, No, uh we became 15th last year, close to coming toward this year, um we should be definitely an A or a B. Expected goals and all this sort of shit. No crazy. We never played in the Premier League, right? But I think we know what's on about when it comes to football at a high level. These United fans that haven't a clue what they're talking about when it comes to football. Like people that's this is the problem with United now. Like people like that are just accepting oh, we got knocked out of the two cups and we're going to come toward an all-grade season. Yeah. It's a brutal season, not winning a trophy. Performances, I guess, they proved that well it reminded me of Filaney ball again. It's a lot productive. Casemiro. They were gonna score a goal. Yeah, I think so that's Van Gaal and Mourinho area. So how better have you gotten the last ten years? If you're still players still there from that era, still no patterns of play, still no. When's the last time you saw a fullback overlapping one of our wingers? We said that last week, yeah. Yeah, but we need fullbacks to do that. Holy Jesus. Look how dangerous processes can be. Fucking shite we are. Yeah, and Kern said when he came on, one of the first things he does was put the ball into the box, great ball in, and Cesco nearly scored. It could have been a better header, I mean a better directed header in their corners. Yeah, that's the first thing that happened. Yeah, you know, I thought that was gonna kick on, but you didn't, but that's you know, we we we we have to have it's games like that that remind you that we have to have a perfect summer, or else we're gonna be embarrassed next year. There's a chance to finish 10th. Do you know what we're gonna do? Go pss 10 steps backwards.

SPEAKER_00 41:20

And we're gonna be talking about this, and please God, we'll be still doing this in two and three and four years, and we'll be still having the same conversation. This summer is a pivotal summer for everything to be done right. The manager and the players that you bring in and the players that you get rid of. This is the time now where you have to take the take the step and bring the group forward. It has to be this is the chance.

SPEAKER_01 41:40

They have a chance to do it. Trevor sentin, he texts in saying that this is the most important transfer window and the most important summer probably in 20 years. Yes, he's right.

SPEAKER_00 41:50

Yeah, like the fact that that that obviously we need to do it, and the fact that everybody else is struggling, it's the right time to do it.

SPEAKER_01 41:57

Yeah, yeah, and that's it. So we'll be yeah, quite far away with the old questions. I'm leading us right into that. Well, um Trevor out on a couple of questions to us. Uh, you said you mentioned one there. We were um we were just having the app, so we said there's too many red flags with Michael Carrick, so should should Manchester United keep Michael Carrick as manager next season? Now he obviously doesn't want to keep him.

SPEAKER_00 42:16

No, well look at we even said it last week, this was even before last night's the match. Even last week now, like like when we are talking now, obviously there was no footballers in, so we answered more questions. No, we we need a world-class manager. We need or if there's not a world class manager, we need a more experienced man than Michael Carrick. It can't be going down the interim road again. I know we we did with Solchar, just say, and we tried everything from a renew, just say there's experience of Al Gall that was experienced to say to bring him Solchar in that was in that was an interim and he did well and he got the job. Then the two newbies, like uh the Amron and and Ten Hag, just say like, no, we need to go and get somebody that's experienced as a proper football manager, that they need to get come in now and do the proper job, and that's it. Really, like this is the time now, this managers out there in the matter to woke up, like that you need to get this job right. You need to get you need to be doing their due diligence now to get this perfect now as a summer as a transfer window for players coming in and the manager.

SPEAKER_01 43:16

This is it, this is it, this is this is the year, I tell you. Completely agree. I like that it's it's the even yesterday, like your man Holland running down the steps to tell Carrier what to do, run the show, you mean? Yeah, so it's all that Woodgate and all, and Johnny Evans, get rid of all that shit. Yeah. I mean, bring Knackelsman in and all his coaches are the best in the world. Or at least try we won't get together. What's the harm in trying to get Enrique and you say no, I don't want it? Alright, fair enough. Yeah. But don't just like make it known to the sit back and think, ah, he's not gonna find Russ. Try and get over it.

SPEAKER_00 43:49

No, tell it if like if they give Carrick the job for you'll give your opinion as well now in a second. Sean, right? If they give Carrick the like the full-time job, uh um the pressure is going to just round. Up like a hundred times fold what it is now. He's an inter manager now, right? He's doing a half decent job. Don't get me wrong now, like he's had to get results without playing well because the league is a bit crap and he's had to get a bit lucky, just say, right? But when he's if you get the manager job, then the pressure is just the whole club's pressure is on top of you now. Because obviously other people doing the background behind him now, there's he's the inter manager now, and he's probably doing what he's told somewhere on the way. It's like you said a second go out. Uh um your man Steve Holland were England for eight years, just say negative one up with England for eight years, coming down to say right, Woodgate, obviously, is a centre half, another thing. Uh Evans, another centre half. All negative people there. We need something more positive than right. And if Carrie gets the job, um the pressure that's going to be on him, it's no way he'd be able for it. Like I looked at the game last night and I said, How long did it take him to make substitutions first of all? And then the substitution he's made I didn't think was right. And he just took too long. It's a negative in in his game, isn't it? I know he made two.

SPEAKER_01 45:01

He just fling Xerx on and through front. Exactly. Go over it.

unknown 45:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:04

Like you might as well lose 3-1 as losing 2-1. Like I was saying last night, Agathi. Agardi was sent a half. Yeah. Why didn't you just bring on Heaven?

SPEAKER_02 45:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:14

Give him minutes. He needed minutes. Heaven's clever on the ball than him. Yeah, I don't know. He needs minutes. He needs minutes. Yeah, why not? And he's big and he's strong. He might get you ahead of him. Yeah. But he's back to the manager, back to Trevor's question. I've said it since day one. If he no, absolutely can't. We cannot keep him. That'll be the biggest another mistake. I mentioned it earlier on, sorry, in this podcast. Kicking the can down the road, that's all it is. And the same result will happen. It's another Ollie, it's another disaster. It'd be a cheap option for them. That's why they'll want to do it, but it it won't work. How could if they don't see this? That's why you said a good point earlier on. Maybe it is a positive we lost. Because if we had gone down and had a very convincing man, it'd be like, oh Carrick, that will again. So maybe this is there was a big eye opener, and we're still in we're still toured. So this there's a damage, but it's not too much. We have a chance to do damage control now. Yeah, it's like it's just another game gone. Yeah, so I think it was a positive. I actually wanted to put that down as a positive last night. Yeah. To show the world that he is not ready. If you can't come back after three weeks and play eight o'clock on the Monday night, lovely weather, lovely pitch, everything's perfect. Mario, you're missing one or two players, but come on, not saying it's only leads, but come on. You're playing in all traffic. You give a chance. We only need three wins to secure sorry Champions League football. And one of them should have been last night. One of them should have been last night. But nothing about them last night made them want to go out and look made me think they want to go out and win that game. No. The way they come they're always second out of traps. They lost every ball, they lost everything. Too many wasn't there. I think Amran they gave a bit of a fight, and I'm not gonna bring his name up because he's gone, right? But to answer the question, he has to go. If he gets a chance to eat football, I said it last time and time before, time before, thanks very much. Now get out.

SPEAKER_00 47:05

But look at Amron was there, right? And and he was trying to change things, and he was, and he's getting rid of a few players and all like that would cause a bit of trouble, right? And then he didn't get the results. But you could see that he was trying to build something, didn't give him the time, the results didn't go, and it's the results business, so he lost actors there, right? Carig is is is the opposite. He's getting results, but you don't see him building that in yet.

SPEAKER_02 47:27

No, no.

SPEAKER_00 47:28

Do you know what I mean? Like so, so so one is defining on the other as it goes to none of them are good enough in the end. So you need to get somebody in that absolutely knows what they're doing, but especially when you're in the premiership, just early, you get away with these managers in the other leagues socially, because we win the games. In the premiership, there's too many good managers and there's too hard of a league. Tactfully, you have to be better Jordan games to be able to tweak things like Pepquad Yolia knows exactly what they do after 15 minutes of a match just early, and he'd say, Well, look, if this is not working, we better change this. 25 minutes gone if you're flying crap, you'll take it off. Yeah, don't be afraid. These managers are not afraid to make these big decisions. This is where they're the top managers.

SPEAKER_01 48:12

But what you said earlier on it is true, like all the managers you've had in the past and the players they've had, there's a lot of trouble. Two of them are still there, yes, a lot of trouble in the dressing room. But this is where the best chance is now to get a top class mandarin and get rid of the likes of some of them players. But all the troublemakers are gone, is what I'd say, even though they're not to perform like the Shaw's not or finished, but we can get rid of some of them players, but the troublemakers are gone. So if you can get in a top class man, you're not coming into a toxic environment, really, no, as such, as comp as compared to previous years. Even when Amaran came in, what's the first thing? They don't got rid of all these players who are causing trouble. And that's the one good thing I'll say about you've done that. So the other manager had to do that now. Barry get rid of players who are not good enough. Yeah, it's not good enough, shot they're gonna, you know, all these players are just not good enough, yeah. Right? So they don't hear any like team leaks or anymore, no, that's rubbish anymore. So there is a lot saying it could still happen, but the players even you brought in, you know, with a cunning house a bit of a car. I can't see him being unprofessional and unless it goes with the table. No, people there was leaks in the dressing room and there was nothing even going on between the players. No, they're just dickheads. Yeah, so that's so that that's if I was a manager um like Enrique's and Money and I it's just a career end there. That's what I'm fairness to you. I don't blame people for saying that. This mightn't be if someone just paints the picture and sell the fucking project to them.

SPEAKER_00 49:28

Yeah, that's what I'm looking at. As you said, now they do have good the goalkeeper's a great boy, right? Now, and then the the the approval now that they can score goals now, and they got enough money to spend in the middle of the parking. Now they need to get that right. They could go in the right direction, but look, we're we're in luck now, like we could we could be obviously in the champions league, so it could be a step forward this year, like so like this. Everything could just fall into place, just surely if you just get the recruitment right.

SPEAKER_01 49:55

Yeah, it's fine. Yeah, yeah. Just apologies for the old sirens in the background. Dublin is a bit hostile at the minute, isn't it? Between the Irish people and the government, so there's more police around and usual.

SPEAKER_00 50:08

So it's coming over Collins with Bits today, like when it was coming home, like they're doing that, and there was uh five uh police black marriage and a few policemen standing the gun and just make sure everything is calm and cool and collected.

SPEAKER_01 50:19

People hear them in the background, that's that's why it is all the last couple of days anyway. So this is uh another question came up from Trevor as well. Are we worried United won't get Champions League football? Er yeah, again, it probably goes back to us over the last ten years of just being let down, but yeah, I'm a little bit. But the only like I said earlier with Chelsea. The only reason I'm not saying I'm confident, but I just don't see Chelsea picking up as like what's that 18 points left to play for where seven ahead of them just say.

SPEAKER_00 50:54

So like I can't see Chelsea outpointing us if you get you can't see getting eight points more than us, yeah, if you're not in piping us by one point because they're not playing well and they've been hard hard running as well.

SPEAKER_01 51:04

Yeah, like you said, I just think the teams around us are just as I said as equally as poor as us. So that's the only thing that gives me confidence. Like if it was a proper race and Chelsea are flying, Liverpool are flying and villa flying, then it'd be like Yeah, like City chasing Arsenal.

SPEAKER_00 51:22

Yeah. You say if three three teams are chasing us, just say our two even because we just say what we're lying toward now just say right, and then just say it was just say six teams and just say right, but only five teams again. So you just say you had Aston Villa, just say you had um Chelsea and you had Liverpool, and they were all playing great. You'd say, right here, we're the team now that's we're rocking here now a little bit. So you're worried now. No, we're not too much worried now. I think the thing is.

SPEAKER_01 51:46

I think Chelsea had forward as well. They haven't played since last summer as well. The Club World Cup. They're playing a lot of football. So it's Bandage United. I'll tell you what, I'm not really worried about Chelsea. I'm very worried more about Brentford. And this sounds mental. Brentford are only a point behind Chelsea. What if we lose to Chelsea or draw to Chelsea? And Brentford are playing home to Fulham, they win. Then they're playing us, they beat us, and then they're playing West Ham, they'd be them, they'd be ahead of us on point.

SPEAKER_00 52:12

But look at that being two, two negative. Do you know what it's all lips and bumps and maybes and all like that? Because everybody still has to play each other. Like you'd have a few fixtures there, Connor, as well, like for teams all that to play each other. Chelsea have a Liverpool have a tough run in as well. Like Liverpool's fixtures are not too easy, are they? Let me tell you, did they play Aston Villa? Did they play Chelsea? Did they play away to us? But they're like their games like that. Three games apart Martin Elton. You might get lucky, I think.

SPEAKER_01 52:36

That other the way the fixtures I've had. We put ourselves into this position a bit as well, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 52:41

But look, not true performance, anyway. Yeah, no, definitely not for performance. But no, we're not really too much worried. Like I think you'll still get boy because by your second corner now, uh the rest of the teams won't be picking up loads of points either. They will lose the chance, you know.

SPEAKER_01 52:55

No, no, I think it's if that goes down to forward and then it's on your game and the draw, then you know. So we are running out of games, but we just need we need nine points.

SPEAKER_00 53:02

Yeah, it's for you to have the second, isn't it? It's get another game out of the way and still in the end of the position. I just want to watch United League, yeah. It's exactly like Leeds last night. The fans you have ladies, I know ladies fans and all you have one that asks us questions all the time, Sean. Um, and it's like them great went with them last night, another game gone that's closer to the end of the season where they don't want to be very much worried. Yeah, so we like yeah.

SPEAKER_01 53:27

So yeah, so the idea just for when I'm on that with the leads, congratulations to Leeds friends of ours and that who we know have been talking to them all week, you know, you know who you are. So well done, well deserved.

SPEAKER_00 53:48

We get this back next year, bro.

SPEAKER_01 53:52

We might have a Leeds fan on before then. Oh yeah, maybe, yeah, yeah. Maybe we'll see when we'll have another guest on, we'll see what's there, no? Some things, yeah, absolutely. So anyway, thanks for that, Trevor. Um this came in from uh David he wrote into us, he says, uh, why didn't United play a friendly match? What did they do for three weeks? I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 54:14

Took a break, yeah. Took a break and wherever they didn't work for that one. So I don't know what they did. I know they came over here and they were training and on and they did their own training, and obviously they had a few days off after the internationals, but like I couldn't 100% I couldn't tell you what they did, but wherever they did, they didn't work. Because it just proved the last night how slow they came out of the blocks again. And it seems to be always like this out that you have a just say a week or two weeks off. Teams always come out slow.

SPEAKER_01 54:40

Yeah, I was trying to say that. Like, I don't understand if just said you were playing in the Champions League and you had loads of matches, and this was the first break they had, and you're like, right, lads, go off and like relax a bit and recover. That's fair enough. That's United's 46th game of the season, something covering from a 34th game of the season, yeah. That's all yeah, like covering from sitting on the couch watching the other teams. No, yeah, yeah. I know Janino, no, that's all I I don't know what they've done. I think it's disgraceful.

SPEAKER_00 55:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 55:08

I don't know how they they surely I know there's people were on some players, not not loads of players on the on the international break, a lot of players stand here, like you know, there's nothing much going on there. Why they didn't do something with them and anticipate this because we've been sluggish in loads of games, because it was a lot of breaks this year, especially more for us, like you know, and anticipate. Listen, the FA Cup's there with that after the international break, the FA Cup that's another week. Surely we can bring the Dublin and get them to play if we're only getting somebody. Just to get minutes, and you don't think closed doors would have brought somebody with them.

SPEAKER_00 55:41

Hey, you know what I mean? Yeah, well, look at you know what it is, like the League of World's on now at the moment, so you probably wouldn't have got one of the Fair, right? But but like surely God, there's other breaks and other countries where you could have brought over uh Marseille or something. I don't know. Just having a guest could have come over.

SPEAKER_01 56:00

Surely quick thinking of your bleeding smart and you're walking on it. I will give just say it was Augsair or Strasbourg, they're not playing during the week. Maybe we'll ring them and see if they want the game.

SPEAKER_00 56:10

Right, big friendly, pay all or pay pay pay all the Jews and all and get them out and play a game with Low Trafford or something. Does it play for anything? Does anything why not? Yeah, well sell tickets for it. Look at we all we can fill out at the stadium. Yeah, look, we can all have opinions and all, but look, we don't answer the questions don't know what they did, but wherever it was, it didn't work.

SPEAKER_01 56:26

Hindsight is maybe that's what you could have it's I wouldn't even use hindsight. Didn't need a crystal bottle. I knew what was gonna happen there. The powers that be didn't see that it's disgraceful.

SPEAKER_00 56:35

Well, this is what the best managers in the world will do, wouldn't you? I don't think managed to see you'd it'd leave that along and Pep Gradiol know exactly what they do. Experience you need it.

SPEAKER_01 56:44

So yeah, thanks for that. We definitely we don't know what they did. Um just to send in from Kevin. Connor, you said you won't believe in Arsenal until you see it. Do you realistically believe they'll win nothing? Oh well, I don't think they win the Champions League anyway. Because it's like the the treaties I mentioned earlier, you think I'm better than Barcelona to beat them as well if he got through the Premier League. City Arsenal is great as they were, but like I said earlier, they're like a jerk, you know. The game Sunday is massive. Yeah, it could be one all or City could have been four-hill. Yeah, really pour Arsenal to bed and chat with a hold on.

SPEAKER_00 57:33

Just saying and then just say in between someone to be Man City played the crystal pass game to win, and there's three points in, and just say, it's still not over, just say like but you're always saying it all you can just say um you just have one city chasing on your throat of all the teams.

SPEAKER_01 57:48

Like I I'd be more confident than Arsenal if they were just say the game the weekend, just say they lost 3-2 and it was a good game and he put forward under pressure or just got caught or something, or considered a free kick or blah blah blah. Yeah. But the fact that they were so poor, yeah. They were so bad against City in the cup final and so bad against how talented. And they weren't great against Bournemouth and Lisbon either, scoring in the last minute. Yeah. So they're playing negative football, haven't he? Yeah, yeah. That doesn't mean you're leading. The performances wouldn't put you, wouldn't fill you full of confidence either, as an Arsenal fan. They're not scoring enough goals over the last couple of weeks.

SPEAKER_00 58:23

So I've answered the question. Yeah. Do you think you win nothing? Yeah. Yeah. I'm the same. Well, what it was a question for him, so I said it a month ago, I think they'd either win nothing.

SPEAKER_01 58:35

They'd win like two things or nothing. I said it was a lot of things. Yeah, you got to get the cup or something, but it's I remember saying at the same time they win the league and the cup or something, or else they win absolutely nothing. So yeah, we'd go with it, they'll win nothing.

SPEAKER_00 58:47

Yeah, yeah, and that'll please you, Sean. Well you'll rub it for the but look we said it didn't we a while ago. People some somebody asked me the question that it was a realistic that asked us to win the quadruple. And we said um well they could win it at the time to say, but then we said they could win nothing as well.

SPEAKER_01 59:06

Yeah, so then bring another another quick one. We can I think we've answered this before. I certainly have anyway. Sure that had to be sacked if they win nothing. Yeah, I don't know what I think yeah, if it's goes down to the last game of the season and you lose out, you should just walk up to the office and just say, Here, look at somewhere I throw what I tried over the last seven years, it's not working. Shake hands and just walk away.

SPEAKER_00 59:31

Mentally, uh he's the manager of the team, and they have the squad. So I think deep down mentally they just can't draw the line. There's something f mentally, something blocking all that, and it's all that negative, like they'll we'll win one nil, right? But it'll be a corner kick or a penalty kicker, and they're not free-flowing going to win games, should they not? So, like, if they don't win it this year, definitely yeah, they need something.

SPEAKER_01 59:54

They don't think they took the fair factor out of Arsenal. So Arsenal have over the years played some nice football. I'd like to say that this year is just never really liked Arteta, but this is just dirty tactics, and it worked to a certain point. But before they were scoring goals, like Saka was actually beating players, and Martinelli was beating players, and they were yeah, they were scoring goals, you know, they were missing a centre forward, but they were still getting loads of goals, you know. That was never a problem, and that's Arsenal fans' words. So it would be never a problem scoring goals, but you didn't have but now you have the were able to take away all the set pieces, you don't score any goals. No, so like he's took the fear for the front teams are not afraid to go there now and get wallops because they're not gonna they're gonna know they're gonna be dirty tactics. So smart smart managers are counteracting that now, yeah, and it just it it looked easy, and look at commitments.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:36

Confidence, and not trying to get the biggest.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:37

Yeah, and the players are walking around looking at TikTok videos and balancing pens between their hands. Yeah, this is embarrassing. Yeah, you're these are adult men mostly, yeah. And you're gonna round doing ballet dancing looking like it around and then going out and it's definitely working.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:51

Training on the fish and shouting and TikTok videos going all over the place. No, no, look at win games. That's what we're supposed to do. Let your players off the the hook.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:59

I know Saka was injured and all, but I'm just using him because he's their He's supposed to be the title of a player like let him off the loose, let them you know no, they're just no he does have to be sacked, I think. Yeah, and um we sent another question in here now from Paul wrote into us. Um should Martinez have been sent off?

SPEAKER_00 1:01:19

No. No, no, no. Now the rule book says if you drag a hair, he didn't drag his hair really, as such, like and like he he you after he's he was off balance first of all, and then uh like Camelone put his hand around him for him of his neck, and the two people just grabbed him. I do know what he grabbed you, he grabbed his hair for half a second there ago and it's not as if he pulled him around the place, yanked him to the ground, yeah. You know what I mean like and and then like so it should have been. Look, I do know what a yellow card you could have gave me a yellow card and and gave them free, and that's it. But a red card, I think, was was way way too far. If that's what's coming into the spot now that you're not allowed tackling, it's gotta be a stupid game that like they're taking all that out and it's a contact sport, it's it's it's on the people's anybody, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:02

It's but it's the the rule book says that, but get rid of that rule, yeah. It's ridiculous.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:06

Yeah, but you can break some of the rules. The rules, you know what the rules the way I look at it is right, the rules are there for football, right? Right, but you can use the rules in the game to the game, or you can not use the rules in the game. Certain things will happen in the game, and if it's a rule, just say, but if you look at it and interpret it as a different thing, well he didn't yankee his head, he just took his hair just certainly not using that rule today. Yeah, the rules are there be broke as well in the football pitch. You don't have to bring them all till all right.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:32

If he spun them and he'd run them back and then he pulled them back by the head, then he'd be like, Right, fair enough. Yeah, if that's the rule, he was on a balance. Yeah, mum was grabbing at his face, which having a good give me a yellow card. Yeah, but look at this Martinez, be careful, like you know, and then that lets the game flow then. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:47

You don't want to suppress the center and ruins the game and all this. But if he stood back and pulled them back really hard, then that's fair enough. He just didn't no it's a contact spot. And for the life of that, the rules can be can be broken for that. And no one was going, no one would have given out to the referee last night if it only gave him a yellow card, and it gave them a free. You can treat them a little bit in a in a match.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:07

But I will say is that that's not an excuse.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:09

If it's just any man's family, you want to say I'm sure kind of yeah, but you said don't give me wrong, it's just a question you're asking about the answer. Um actually made it better. Yeah, I mean the book is.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:21

I'm not blaming the record, it's just that moment. Could have been for any to any team, any club, anywhere.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:26

No, no, no, yeah, no, no, as a football fan, no. Like if that was somebody like grabbing something on a Liverpool like that, and that I'd say, no, Slavis Lloyd or whatever his name is, like, might have what's his name like Savaz Ly. Slavis Lloyd said that. Somebody grabs him by the head the same way I'd say, No, look at well, you don't be sent off for the looks of that.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:45

No, no, red card, no. The game's gone soft, the world has gone soft, and you should be able to hit someone and just get away or something like that.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:51

Yeah, the way you did yeah, you go tackle, tackle. Yeah, that's it. Like that was too soft. So yeah, thanks for writing them in.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:57

That's that's it then for this week number 44. Um, done and dusted. So again, just thanking everybody for listening all over Ireland and then all over the world. America and a couple of people in Vietnam and Australia and all listening. So thanks very much for sticking with us and listening every week.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:15

Oh, giving you that time, yeah. Thanks very much. Yeah, we definitely appreciate it.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:19

Thank you. We'll um we'll have our predictions up then again on Tours here, Friday for the weekend. I'm chasing Vinno down and doing it at Vinno's arsenal and Light Man's City here and hopefully you've got to catch him. Yeah, well, you never know.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:32

I can swim, so it don't care.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:34

Well, so we'll be back then next week or episode 45, and then that'll be it then we go again. Yeah, thanks for all the interaction. They said we're flying and don't think yeah, big time. Keep sending the questions and points, and yeah, no problem. Um we'll we'll write them down and get them in the best we can. Thanks for the interaction. Yeah, and uh we'll see next week. Yeah, thank you. Bye.