Lads On The Sideline Podcast
A football podcast hosted by a father, Vincent, and his two sons, Sean & Conor, who are massive Man United fans. Not just Man United talk but all things football. From match reviews and previews, to big topics and stories we will give our honest and unbiased opinions on it all.
Lads On The Sideline Podcast
Episode 35 - Title Race, Europe, Relegation
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This week we took a look back at gameweek 33 in the premier league which saw Man United win away to Chelsea, Liverpool win the Merseyside derby, and Man City pile the pressure on Arsenal with their 2-1 victory over them at the Etihad. We then took a look at the remaining fixtures for all teams involved in the title race, the race for European places, and the relegation battle and gave our predicted points for each team. As always we finished with our listeners questions.
Welcome back everyone, episode forty-five, Lads on the Sideline Podcast. It's me, Connor, as always, showing by the channel. How's everybody getting on? Welcome back.
SPEAKER_03Oh yeah, welcome back everybody as well. Thanks for all your listenership. Very good. Most welcome. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Thanks for uh listening to the last couple of weeks. Um couple more followers and plenty of people listening from around the world, so thanks very much for that. Sean got plenty of questions in this week, and as always, we'll start with our news in a few minutes, then we'll go on to it. Dinah, you'll take over with the results on the weekend, and then we have a bit of a an interesting thing we're gonna go through with the title, the European places and the relegation. And then we'll like I said we'll finish out on Sean's questions.
SPEAKER_03So er how are we? All good. Cool, yeah. Looking forward to doing it again, another quick week. It's made the season goes quicker, hasn't it?
SPEAKER_02It has definitely because only what are we in game week? What?
SPEAKER_01Five left now. Yeah.
SPEAKER_0234, is it?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02That's the double game week sort of, isn't it? Yeah, it is, yeah.
SPEAKER_03But it seems to be a very quick season, like normally we have two matches a week to look forward to, and when you're playing in Europe and all that, you get a good extended run in any of the cups, you get so far in the you seem to have a lot of matches then, and then it seems to fly in. The fact that United will only be playing two or J matches, like take the two cup matches over at the play, just say alright. It was a quick season, wasn't it? Yeah, it was it. This year just seemed to buzz past, didn't it?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, little bit little bit less stressful because you're obviously in the top three, but look, it has its moments too.
SPEAKER_03I think ironically obviously started to see it was more stressful than there is now, but like we still think we would change, but now you know we keep saying that like this time last year we're talking about relegation.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, damn words that should never have ever come into our vocabulary at Man United, but it did. No, but it's like sports, yeah. They got worse, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Big time, yeah. So football is a funny old game, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_02Hindsight's obviously always good, but that's a big difference compared to last year. It's a long way to go, long, long way to go. But this should be just standard, you know. That's what we're used, that's why we're so frustrated. Yeah, you know. We should realistically be looking forward to a semi-final of the FA Cup this weekend if it was what we should be. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03But look at look at Spurs would be in the same situation. Their fans would expect them to be doing a lot better than what they are now, like, especially after winning the Europa League last year. I know it was a terrible game, and obviously the goal and all by United were very poor and all. But at the end of the day, um, sports fans wouldn't think they'd have been in this situation as the start of the season. No. And it just goes to show you no club is too big to go down. Sports are a very big club. Leeds look to be safe now, I'd say, definitely. Um, and not in the forest. Got a good win the other day as well, took them up a little bit. So it was West Ham or Sports to go down, two massive clubs, and it goes to show you if you don't get the recruitment right, it can all fall apart. Yeah. As simple as that. People have to learn lessons from this. Yeah, definitely, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Well, like that, we we'll go through our relegation predictions in a little while. And I actually left Leeds out. I only put down Forest West Ham and Sports because I kind of like you, I kind of think sports Leeds have sort of secured themselves in the last two wins, haven't they?
SPEAKER_03Six great points.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, huge points. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, look at we've kicked over our nails anyway. Um as always, when there's sort of it's not a death, it's more of a memorial. Um we look back on um Hillsborough. It was the 27th anniversary of the day, 15th of April. Um you were born. So erm okay. There's obviously controversy about it, and it's one of them things that the whole the football world knows about, isn't it? So you said it in February when the Munich uh anniversary came out. So this is one of Liverpool's biggest things, isn't it? So terrible it is, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Condolences to all the families and whatnot and you went through a lot of grief over that. I still am, obviously, like you still are, but I mean when they happen and all for the blame and this and the way it was all sorted out and all like I mean it it was so badly uh organised and so badly tried to be sort of that mess out was and you just sort out like people. But it's people at the end of the day.
SPEAKER_02No, never, never desperate.
SPEAKER_03No, yeah, it's like going to work. You shouldn't go to work and knock them home. Like it should be easy, like do you know what I mean? Like if you should be going and every like everywhere now should be a safe environment, yeah. Like like health and safe and all of that now, and sure it would never happen anymore now. But uh as a disaster, it was a terrible disaster, I have to say now, for Liverpool Football Club. Definitely, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Um so we move on then to more light-hearted news. Um, just for anyone that's interested, we we have always been interested in United's Academy, maybe like every other United fan. But tomorrow night, which is the 22nd of April Wednesday, um Man United are playing Man City in the U Cup final. So just for anybody that wants to tune in, a couple of good young players for both teams. I think I think it's one of these finals where in five years' time you look back and there might be like six or seven players, and like, oh they played Academy players. Robert Chelsea and City played years ago, and I think Sancho and Foden were on one team, and Reese James and Loftus Sheik and stuff like this were on the other team. So like I have a feeling it could be one of them again. Like obviously the United point of view with the lads up front and all like so it's one of them, it's the Fup final is it's a big enough thing, isn't it? Ganachos, he's got a winner, didn't he?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and he went obviously went to his menu, they play in the same game. Yeah, JJ Gabriel. I'm sure he's only 15, I'm sure he starts as well. And um to be a lot of good youngers, like Obi. Obi, you'd be saying yeah, look, and he got his tint with the force team as well ago. Now it died to death from just saying. Yeah, look at it's a future both clubs. But look at not a lot of players come to academies either. That's so hard, so hard to make as a footballer. Yeah. That if you're lucky to get a couple, it just saves the club so much money in the long run if you can make academy players into force teams.
SPEAKER_02Well, you look at it, the standout players usually get a chance in the force team, or some maybe training, but they get some sort of chance. But who who becomes successful of it? Well, can that show be won? Regardless, but you think it's people saying 40 million down the drain after the other week, but he's still he's that's a job now as a multi-millionaire because he's at the making it. Do you know he hasn't making it regardless of how good he is, but he's still obviously a good footballer. Yeah, but he was not too long ago playing the the FA Cup youth final, so yeah, scoring goals.
SPEAKER_03Look, you can make it to the championship, you can make it to the first League One, and you're still making a good living now, bro. Yeah, like it's a good it's a good starting life to be on a Man United Academy or a Sports Academy or a Man C or a Liverpool, any of them. Anyone that's that's a good premiership team. You're on their academy and you stick with it and you and you look at yourself, you can still make a living if a football, even if you're top down a league or two. Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_02Especially that competition always the winners like you when you look back through history, like in West Ham with Carrick and Joe Cole years ago, wasn't it? Like, so there's always a somebody stands out. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. On to the senior football then, obviously the Champions League semi-finals are coming up uh next week. Um Bayern Munich and PSG looks to be the standout one, doesn't it? Yeah, that should be the final. Yeah, Ray Madrid and Bayern Munich was probably the two best matches I've seen this season. Yeah, on on your AGSE stuff. Proper football. Didn't want it to end. No, and hopefully this Boring and PSG is gonna be the same. Yeah, gonna have a pop up Arsenal again here. Now we were watching the second half, are we? Yeah, no, it's the second leg, sorry. One on one telly, one on the other telly, and just the difference. Like they had more goals in that game than Arsenal had shots, and Spartan had shots like took away.
SPEAKER_03And now they're playing Atletico Madrid, who were also the same type of play, bit negative, but I think they would have a little bit more going from them forward. But you can only see that being one extreme to the other in two matches, can't you?
SPEAKER_02I think Borne and PC would be like 8-7 in agree, and Arsenal and Atletico be like 2-1 or something. I know they got the job done, but fans can't be happy with that. I know I always have a go with them, but it's just because the positive fans because the way they go on, but like they can't be they might be happy with it, but look what the that touched that side of football that they're getting them.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. But look, we played well enough against City, do we?
SPEAKER_02Well, uh title challenge on a semi-final champions league, it's not too bad. Yeah, because you're saying that to me, but that's terrible football.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02In comparison to the other teams.
SPEAKER_03It is in fairness, but look if we if they went over the same attitude they went against City, um you would think they could have just CB spot and Lisbon easy enough. Like that fella had a good shot and all at the end, we couldn't he could have snuck a goal there, Spartan Lisbon, and they could have been knocked out. Yeah. Weird go forward to win the games. Like, they're gonna be a good thing. The players can do it though. I guess I don't think that's right.
SPEAKER_02So who do we think the final is going to be, Vin? Who are your two?
SPEAKER_03Um I'm gonna say um Byron, Munich and Atletico Madrid. Sean Byron and Arsenal.
SPEAKER_02I think they'll get I think he'll get over the line and did he Japan. I think it could be a messy final for them. I'll agree. I think what you've said, Vinno, at Byrne and Atletico. I think Atletico I think they could be Arsenal 2-0 to say over in Spain and just make it so awkward for them.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, do you know what you play acting and all the good? I think this is the worst.
SPEAKER_02What a look drawer Arsenal could have got. Just physically and all, Atletico are gonna be a nightmare. And I think they're gonna take a lot out of them come to the for the league games that you have in between. Like so again, we'll get onto that in a little bit later, but yeah, I think Atletico get to the finals. Well he lost a couple of finals in the infairnous to him in the Drills. Uh yeah. Another thing then that we'll see in the Premier League next year, then four things promoted, Coventry. Good for them. So they're back up into the old Premier League after what's it, 25 years?
SPEAKER_03Well, look, we'll have to just congratulate the Coventry fans that listened to us too. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Old assistant manager Ray from years ago. He was he was a Coventry fan, I always remember that's the only one I know. Jimmy Graham. Last time I could have been playing under him, he still wins for a moment. That was good to see. It was a chapter today I was saying to you, Ben, wasn't it? A fan. Do you look back at um a picture in 2001 when he got relegated and he had like a uh sign and he's like, We'll be back. And then he was in the crowd the other day with a sign saying, We're coming back.
SPEAKER_03So it's like 25 years into the difference to say, I was going to come here. Frank Lamphardt and Fernsey did a good job there, didn't he? Yeah, yeah. Give him all give him credit, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Absolutely, absolutely, yeah. Um then of Kamere, just real quickly, Tommy Boring Munich, they won the league yesterday. I didn't even know it. Which is on course to break their own record points in the Bundesliga. They've like win the league in the middle of April, like it's mad, isn't it? Crazy. So again, you think I I know it's they win it sort of nearly every year, but to give Vincent company credit. Yeah, credit where credit is due.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, he has to win the semi-final and already won the league, yeah. Of course. So go for a treble again, I think they are there. You go, and he there you go, and I've got to show you. He got the manager's job after being uh relegated with Borney. Yeah. So you know, like so people people can see the recruitment and to get right, things can go right. Yeah, exactly. Simple as that.
SPEAKER_02I think many goals have they scored. Oh loads, like it's like nearly and I'd say it's well over 100 like. I think their goal is like plus eighty. But you know what?
SPEAKER_01What the fuck?
SPEAKER_02I think Harry Kane has like 50 something. Because I saw a thing today, they were saying he has to score a hat trick and never again for the rest of the season to equal Messi's record of 73 goals in the season. So he needs to score a hat trick in. Harry Kane's 32 league goals, and then the rest of them's league, cup goals, and whatever else.
SPEAKER_03But go to show you, but no, uh, in fairness to that league, they're saying now Bury Munich have a top class team above what above them all in that league. There's some poor teams in that league, it's a poor league as well, isn't it? Yeah, it's it's not great.
SPEAKER_02Did nearly uh Harry King's there, sorry, Harry Kane, Luis Diaz and Michael Elise nearly have 60 goals between them. That's alone in the league.
SPEAKER_03And Elise probably has about 30 assists, has he? But he has 28 overall, I think. That's upset. Do you know what I mean? They're just they're just a standout team in that league, and that's it. Yeah, true.
SPEAKER_02Luis Diaz was a serious buy there, wasn't he? Yeah, big 20. Good finding. Yeah, thank God. Uh yeah, I don't know, yeah. Uh back to the Premier League then, just the last two bits, four team relegated L Wolves was coming, but it's official now there. You can't catch West Ham, so very lucky you've been planning for the plans and said he was got the job, I think.
SPEAKER_03Realistically, he knew where he was going into, didn't he?
SPEAKER_02Joe is it's probably just a relief that it's officially done, but probably is even the fans now can probably go to games and managers and the players and try to take points left. You might take points off teams now. Well, didn't we lose more like so many? But I can again is the worst team ever either. So that's gone. They have a couple of good wins that he could have. This is not gonna be any points. Obviously, he picked up another body on the game.
SPEAKER_03And look, he's good in the championship, Edwards, isn't he? No, the leaks inside out. So so look at you say he was ready-made for for them for this league, and that's he knew the job, he knew what he was going into, and he'd be a good man to have there on on your side now to try and get them back up. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, trying to get them back out Leicester happening to Leicester. Yeah, trying to be careful. I think a lot of players probably will leave, so I'd imagine. Look at the arms too. Yeah, you have to you have to expect that. Never mind Wolves, they come mind saying I'm going back up, like you know. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, but a nice club.
SPEAKER_02Uh then the last bit then we said last week about Irayola leaving Bournemouth, so they must have had this in their works because they're two days later they announced this. Um Marco Rose, he's gonna be the new manager, he's a German fella, he was used to manage Dalton and Orbe Leipzig, so he must have something about him if he's coming from them clubs to go to Bournemouth.
SPEAKER_03One is out and one is in, and the Lux United now and all like um takes how long and all that makes these decisions. It's crazy. But United when they're doing their deals and all like even in the summer, they know Park and Larson with Cunningham now, they did them fairly quick, but even in Bramer got dragged out last year and all for for getting MP United and do you seem to just drag things out as much as you can, don't they? Do you not make it easy for fans? No. United. You don't. Every team wants like start united though as well.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, of course. That will naturally take longer, but as you said, if you're a fan, it's not easy. No, it's not easy. No, it's not. But if you're if you're good enough for that job, then you should be getting around the line. That's a a little bit it might take a little bit more time because of the size of the club, but uh efficiency should be the same.
SPEAKER_03Of course, and they should be Connor said the last week and all, they should be going for the best, should be going for the best manager, if nothing else, interview them. They should be going for the best players, and if you don't get them well or good, like like and you know what I even think, Connor, even if you didn't go for the best, which they should just say right, don't be letting people know they're not but giving it to Carrick without anyone MBS because you're doing a great job. Throw your payoff rough out there and bluff a bit and say, Well, we tr tacked the negative as many just didn't want to have anything to do with the job, tackled pump them. Do a proper job to to fulfil the fans to say give us the hype that they are trying for the best.
SPEAKER_02Or I said, I don't know. I like that if they aren't or say the yarn, Carnick might be the best, you never know. But just said you did go a Carnick, give the reasons why, and this is the backing and convinces us if they say, Oh, yeah, no, you won't know.
SPEAKER_03No, that's what you don't, you leave another long finger.
SPEAKER_02No, and that's it. Hopefully they do, but sure. Evidence.
SPEAKER_03It's like you were Arsenal, Tom saying you won't believe it till you do it. We're the same with the way the night the other business with them glazers and all like that. We won't believe it until they actually do something that we turn into, you know what? Yeah, they're doing something different and that's good, but they're still unconvincing that's who's running my united. Yeah, that's it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, exactly. So uh I'll hand over to Villa now, he has the L results on the weekend where I have to say, Vin I'm catching up in you now with the L predictions. You don't have to tell me that. Just have people listening. We do our um we actually I put them up today because the uh Game Week 24 starts tonight with Chelsea and Brighton. But we put our predictions up every week on um Instagram so people can go on and see what the predictions are and the scores are beside our name. So I've been behind a long way behind for a while. But I'm on 147 points now. Villow's on 149 and Sean's on 170. So yeah, yeah, like farm back up to tell me. So fire away, Phil.
SPEAKER_03Look at game of the weekend. We saw it, didn't we? Connor, Brandford and Fulham, right nil all right. Then Lynn's got a great game because nothing happened in the reading, didn't it? I just thought Brentford had a lot more to play for as regards to where they could have got in Europe and there was about two points dropped.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, really good. So compared to the only thing I will say about that match is sorry, he did make a couple of yeah, Leno got mad the match, didn't he? He made a great save actually at the end. Sorry if I'm Brantford over the bar. Come saving the season earlier. Yeah, I forgot about that. From saying nothing about the match, you're gonna say two things. Martinez gets sent off for taking Calvert Lewin's bobbin now of his hair, and the man from Balmart dragged Bassie by the hair, and nothing, same referee, didn't even look real like terrible, isn't it? It's unbelievable. Like if they're gonna send Martinez up and no one agrees, it's fair enough. Send him off for the exact same thing that was blame. That's the problem, man. Yeah, why can't you just get it right? It's not that hard. It's not no, it's the real thing. There you go. Well, the manager gives out what'd you send him off? Well, you sent Martinez off for up. Okay. It's in the real book, right? He's actually helping himself. That's what makes you think that again doesn't really happen to us, but we we've ever been on the receiving end of a lot of dodgy decisions. No, it's multiple and other teams have too. I'm not saying that, but it's just it's not right.
SPEAKER_03No, definitely not right. It's not that I don't know.
SPEAKER_02So is that anyone's result of the week now?
SPEAKER_03No, it's definitely not. But uh they would come here leads with good three in a way and I think I put them down with a draw because I thought like they would have took a lot would have been taken out of them on um Monday night um when they won away to United, just say that I just thought like coming at home then they might have settled for a point. Now we'll just say right where they were now, but to get another three points and win and win three in the leads, you have to say it was a great win with them. Yeah, fair play. I may think it puts them safe, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but you did a draw, me and Sean put the Nelt away in yet, but no, fair play to them. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Like with Wolves the way they were then at the last match to try and stay up and all that. You think what you were saying, Connell? I just thought Sean, I just thought that that Wolves might put a bet better fight against them. But look in the fairness, the World Leeds, I should say, they got a great win. And then Barn went away to Newcastle like a big game, like so. Um Barn would win in 2-1, great win for them.
SPEAKER_02Off the back of being Arsenal as well. They could have easily like that put or we stepped the game up for Arsenal.
SPEAKER_03Newcastle as a big one.
SPEAKER_02Brilliant. Well, not a struggle. It's sort of a hard place to go. We lost early, you know, with 10 minutes. Yeah, we had faith in the we me and you shall put Barnum down to win um 2-1. And Finnna, you put me and Venno did, sorry, and then Sean, you put them down to be a draw. So none of us put Newcastle to win. No, no, we just thought like I thought a draw was written along.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, no, you just thought now like that they're beating um like you said a second now, beating Arsenal, that they could easily go away to be a struggling Newcastle team. Like like an Eddie Hell now at the moment now, like should he be up now with another could Newcastle with another manager?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and the players could go and all like it's it's mad. When you go on to Borom its fixtures in a little while, but you thought of dark horses to get into Europe, we'll go through their fixtures now in a few minutes and they could sneak in.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and then they're absolutely I heard on you on the news and before I come out that at Bayern Munich like they could be going for Lanty Garden, 75 million. Bayern Munich? Yeah. Like of Newcastle, they'll accept linked to them as well. Yeah, Boring Munich, you said they'll accept 75 million. They'll accept Boy Munich, yeah. Yeah, we are spoken up the squads, yeah.
SPEAKER_02That's bad, isn't it? But put teams like Byron definitely playing two games a week. Or 100%. Well, did he play in those Wonders League games against the shitty teams? Yeah, where they win five-nil. You're playing them games and rest of the game. Investment like that could help you get all trophies.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, well, look, it's it's squad numbers, isn't it? Good squad numbers, yeah. And then look, Spurs and Brighton, and I think it was just deserved to be a two-wall draw, but I'm sure the sports fans, their hearts were broke. How late the goal was. But I think they deserved that. The volume.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I thought um Bright played well, didn't he? Yeah, they played good football, yeah. He played good football and sports. I was looking at the match, and it's looking going through our players, and it's like Van de Fan, Siemens, Porrow. Good players, like do you know? They're getting relegated, like they just didn't play well at all.
SPEAKER_03Like no, and do you know what the do you know what the air like do you thought when he had a game one and and seamens and all like jumping up to the grill and all thank these chairs? 15 minutes ago or something. Job done, and he got the sucker punch with the last kick of the game. And it's only my it's only what uh Brighton deserved, and it just puts them bigger into a hole, that's all it is.
SPEAKER_02And the fairness, like Spurs, the goals you got they were down to Brighton mistakes as well. Like is that them apart apart, there were two mistakes that he scored for.
SPEAKER_03Two of them came out with no Brighton that you allow his play over in the background and he just got exposed twice, took the ball off them twice, and he scored twice. So it's not as if Spurs played brilliant, and because you have a new manager in there and the new manager bounced, the two goals are two lucky goals. Yeah. Yeah, I mean they can find this of them. So look at that, they're even trouble. So especially with the next result that you could read out in in the second league, not in the first beating Boney 4-1. It's always a great they win when you read and he went behind.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, went down to that.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and to score four goals and went on. I wouldn't even know what the goal difference is down to the end of the say, right? But goal difference counts along here. So they're down at the bottom there, like one goal can keep you into there.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, we game. Yeah. We do always say like in these cup competitions, like are you better off being in them without them if you're like fighting relegation? But that's a good win for them. They could go and get a win or a draw against Villet and build momentum and that could just take them on. Yeah, like do you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03Like the way to the Champions League. Do you know what I mean? They could stay up and be in the Champions League, and people are saying, What a season there it is. That owner probably still sacked the manager. Do you know what I mean? In fairness, that's it doesn't go to say that's football, isn't it? Yeah, it's just so unpredictable, isn't it? This season, anyway, definitely is. And then United we're going to United game down next, like come here, they got a great win without actually playing well with the fans. But I mean you're saying that for the last seven games. They're getting the results. They got lucky the other day as well. The couple now, Chelsea weren't by all means great either. Um wasn't a great game. Good goal in fans, like you could have taken a shot ten minutes before and scored another chance, couldn't you just say? But um they held on well with with a makeshift defence now and compared and it was a great, great three points they got in fairness to them. Yeah, it was, wasn't it?
SPEAKER_02In fairness. Like you said, if the was it I don't know, was it Jordan that match? I think we are sort of saying the quality of football is again it's just so bad. Like some the amount of times you're giving the ball away and people can't hold the ball up and bottling challenges and what's going on. Fourth half was terrible.
SPEAKER_03Look, you brought Genatch on Chelsea at or 15 minutes because that little Brazilian Estelle route, whatever his name is where you got in just a certainly, and then like Chief Shudge by giving out about um uh about uh Genatcha then she didn't get one cross, one assist, one goal. He lost the ball fifteen times. Jesus saying, like you can only say it took a quality, didn't it? Broke forward to being for him, didn't he?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, another assist for Runa, like wasn't I was a scuffy uh scruffy uh cross in you must miss hit a sort of but he was just reading things and listening to the biggest thing. But he put the ball up the line with two players around him. He's probably aiming for Cesco when he was getting marked with with put it into the danger area, but yeah, great finish. And a great finish. And how was that a bad assist? No, it's not a bad assistant. And then he gets in his although it's a set piece, it's just because it's united, and that's it, you know. I think Bruno's one of those hard people, don't they? Like he people hate. If you play for somewhere else, they'd say we'd hate Mazel. The biggest critics, oh, you have been anyway, from the way he has been, but he has produced the goods throughout the years. You know, I mean we need him mostly like Harrikson's character got over top of the table.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but we would be literally religiously, we would be like, and you know you're just talking about Brunei and just say, right now, if he was playing with somebody else and you were saying about all the goals and all these goals and all these cis he gets. Now we always do this as well. We give out so much about the amount of moaning he does. But if you were a different, we do enough. Imagine being another fan. Oh my god, you've really hated him ten times. Just football years.
SPEAKER_02That's what that's what happens then.
SPEAKER_03Give him so much abuse, wouldn't you? And you'd be giving everybody on us so much because of the moaning does we do, but imagine being an arsenal fan, Steve, and he playing against you. Yeah, you you're just hate him. Still not great football, lads, isn't it?
SPEAKER_02I'm not gonna stick to my guns. If we keep Carrigal back and mall, I always say that. Yeah, obviously. That's the club that wanted if he gets the job, he's probably earned it. Fairness. Where you did where I'm assuming when we're gonna finish in Champions League. Yeah, over the line yet, but we're in a great position to do that. But it's still something if we want to go best of class, he's not it. No, he's not it.
SPEAKER_03So there was another question last week.
SPEAKER_02So what happens? It happens, yeah. That that was a point about performances. That was just a massive three points. Just get to three points. So I'm not gonna give out too much about that game.
SPEAKER_03No, what we when we asked, somebody asked a question last week, didn't they? Were we do you think we'd still get Champions League? And we said, Yeah, just before the games last week, and then we'd the game coming up then a league, and then we said, Well, look, we lost the lates, just say, but like realistically, like if you were to flick the two ones around and we have to beat leads and lose to Chelsea, yeah, we'd have been only seven points ahead. Then you'd be still saying, Well, look, there's one game gone, we were saying that last week, thank god another game was seven. Well now what ten. I think we're nearly short of the Champions League football. I don't know what about we need to start playing about the football. But I think when you started the midfield, we may never had a really good game if you want to say that going. Well, he really had a good game in the middle of the park, probably his best game in a long time that you could throw around and say, if he's trying to sort of his contract, and his contract is sorted out in order to stand for the next five years, he'll fit in there now a really good player, and he'd be the he'd be the benchmark in the middle of the park now for the next few years. He's brilliant on the bottom. Yeah, he's very good.
SPEAKER_02But he was brilliant, yeah. Yeah, I thought he had a great game. Yeah, Cassio was disciplined for a change that run all over the place and like we'll shout him out because we absolutely slay him. Now he he was up against Garnacho, but I thought the low played very well as well. Yeah, they weren't stupid, wasn't running up centre forward or doing any of these step over, just did his job and defended well.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02It's like oh my head say heaven will get man the match. Yeah, and he's obviously he didn't, but he was up there with it like at the start.
SPEAKER_03You're worried about him and he's dying in a few attacking. Oh yeah, excited.
SPEAKER_02But he's very good on the ball though, given that you know, so he has that game to T, but he he has that ability, you know.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, look, he's excited to play, and he's like that's such the excitement of a young floor, like and that's being the old head around him to calm him down all he'd like he just wants to play football, doesn't he? Yeah, and that's it in fairness.
SPEAKER_02And then again, look at before you knew Vaughan just to be going to Chelsea's fixtures in a few minutes, but they have to be very careful now of actually getting into any sort of European football. They'd want to make sure they qualify for even the conference league, like how close up, how close teams are to them and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and look at there's an opportunity as well for six spot to get the Champions League, isn't it? Like Philip could come on and win the Europa League and then you give them another spot to England. So, like six spot, like it's still massive to play for huge, yeah. You know what I mean? Definitely, yeah. And then look at great we didn't have to say, but like we went to happy like Liverpool winning the way last kick it again against Everton. But look, look, it wasn't a great game. But look, come here, you don't defend well, and and and yeah, man um of Everton like Tarkovsky Tarkovsky like got bullied like by him and come on Van Dijk, he gets the goals, doesn't he? Well, many times we've seen him with McGuire. Big huge three that was a big huge three points with him, which was massive.
SPEAKER_02Terrible football again in terms of both teams, but that Liverpool this stage they need Champions League football. Yeah, like us nowadays is the results. You said there's a little bit of damage control, yeah. Yeah, no Phil fan will give out. No, we know you're fancy give out about no, you might have a chat with it. Okay, you we played, but at the end of the day with five games left, whatever it is, yeah, get the results. Get the three points out. I think the fourth sort of quarter of the season it's about results until you build into your stride and play well for the next sort of couple of months, and then the last quarter just get results. You know where you're standing. If you're on the four grabs then, yeah. I think you're not last year, we knew we weren't going to finish anywhere. Yeah, what would be 15, 16th, whatever 17th at one stage, you knew we were in. The best seed we could have got, I think, last year was at this stage last year was 10th. If if we won all the games, obviously we didn't, but yeah, there's nothing really to play for, you know. So yeah, yeah, yeah. But you're right, the last quarter, I think you know where to where you stand. What's achievable?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and then do you know what? It's it's it's them times when when you need the big squad and it's when the pressure starts, and then you have to be you have to be able for the pressure because that's when loads of teams fall back then a lot, because they're not able for the pressure, yeah. And that's as simple as that.
SPEAKER_02I suppose Liverpool now be able to have bragging rights. That's the force derby in this stage, isn't it? So they're in the force one that can be 50 years' time who's got the force. Go will be sad. Surprise, surprise, you know that record for them. Like, do you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03That'd be a question we'd be asked in 10 years last night. There you go. And then um Man City and M Arsenal. Big, big, big win for Man City.
SPEAKER_02I put this as the result of the weekend just because it was such a massive result, like I know Bournemouth and United got a good win and whatnot, but just the magnitude of the win, it really sort of felt like a sort of torn. He needed it, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Like you said earlier, sorry if you had to cut across it. Sharon said it. Arsenal actually played well enough. That's what I said, he did play well. I usually say them when I get a chance now. Yeah, yeah, they did play well. Yeah, yeah. That's what I said. Yeah, no, I thought you played well. I just like them, you know. Arsenal frustrated me because the the I don't like Arteta, he's a clown. Yeah, but look at the players he has and the foot the style of football and the quality of football that's been put onto the pitch is dreadful. That's it's it's I know it sounds malcolum of the United fan, but I like to watch good football. He's a good player, isn't he? Yeah, I know it's easy for me to say when like Bayern Munich and all the night outside of it's a lot easier to say than domestic, but it's they were great. I didn't want the games of football to end. That game yesterday was a bit better than I thought it was going to be because of the way Arsenal are playing. They actually go for it a little bit, but that should be end-to-end. The two best teams in in the in the land. If they and their fans will think they're the best teams in the world, I know they do. Um but I thought they actually done alright, Arsenal, compared to what they've done, but they still didn't still only three shots on target, you know. So yeah, good, but not good enough. Exactly. Just comes down to it, doesn't it? Like you said, he has always Saka was not playing, just say, but like I look at somebody like Eze, and we said at the start of the season, he just needs to be just left free. Yeah, like you'll just say he would have signed Raman City and Cherky wouldn't have. You could see Eze doing the same thing by Man City because he'd probably be free to express himself a bit more.
SPEAKER_03And you had a hard look at that shot with his left foot, and he would have got the goal. Yeah, but and then come here the last head of the game. Your man could have done better as well in front of the goal, like he had you draw the bars like he could have got something in the game. If he did it. By Harvard on one end and Haaland at the end.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, well that could have been in the league, and that's just small, small margins and big games, isn't it? The post all a couple of times, didn't they? But even their goal, even their goal, the goal last week was a little set piece. Their goal this week was a mistake. Yeah, you know, when they ever gonna go, wasn't it? Terrible, yeah. It just squeezed in, it was mad actually. Yeah, but that's the amount of Dilly Dallion um on the ball. But but like if I can't see them going out and beating people if it's gonna come down the goal difference, but you could think about beating teams for four nil, five nil. No, no, no, they have the quality there to do it, so maybe I don't know, but the way the season's going, absolutely not.
SPEAKER_03I can see them at nothing now. We said it's just the way I can't see them in nothing. No, but just do you know what it is? I can no, I mean it's the way it is now.
SPEAKER_02I can see City winning the majority of the games, not dropping any points, but I can't see Arsenal collecting all all the points that's available to them now.
SPEAKER_03Connor has a few, you know. I don't think he was tell us, and that's it. And then look at last night's game, no matter what way you look, they just say um Crystal Palace at home to West Ham, it was nil all draw now. I'm sure it was a brutal game, but watched a little bit of it, it didn't work around myself, yeah. And West Ham, I thought played well.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I thought he could have got a couple of goals and they were only dawned to me before the game, but before we saw the team. We were out walking, I was like, I wonder what Crystal Palace rest players now, because they they're sort of the only team in the league that aren't really playing for anything. Yeah, but because they're in the conference league still, that's gonna be the focus. Yeah, and then you look at the team and the likes of Matetta wasn't playing and Wharton, they weren't playing, so maybe it's a good point for West Ham. But I wonder if they sort of think, geez, we could have bleeding got a chance, isn't it? But say after the game, yeah.
SPEAKER_03I'd say before the game did they took a drop.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah, big time. Any point.
SPEAKER_03It's another point, yeah, as you say. But during the game and the players that Crystal Palace rested, so and after the game, when they go back to the chance that he had, I'd say you would be a little bit raging that they didn't get to three, but one point still forward away from the relegation zone, it's could be crucial.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, definitely, yeah. So uh yeah, what's the result of the week? Like I said, mine is Man City just goes to the top of the head.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, no, I'd have been the same though. I'd have gave it to Man City, but I could they gave it to Liverpool as well to say because I I really thought Liverpool were going to have a tricky game, yeah. Like um away to Everton. Now the game wasn't great, but pressure on them as well to get three points to get a little weight and a little chase and like Chelsea, like they decapitalised on United beating Chelsea, which a lot of times it doesn't happen, but you did. So I I I'd give it to Liverpool. I just thought it was a good win. Yeah, it was it was.
SPEAKER_02Then uh you missed one out there, Ben, did you? Aston Villa. Aston Villa. And Sunderland Fortress. Oh here, come here, yeah. The result of the weekend was.
SPEAKER_03Do you know why I was leaving that to the end? You know why? Because I thought it was the best game of the weekend. I just thought when when Sunderland were losing 3-1 and then they scored the two goals, the chance they had at the end. Right. Holy though, wasn't it? Look at Kamara, it was only one minute of the difference, wasn't it? Oh my god, how'd he not score that? He tried to chip her over Martinez and goal and he put his hand and save it. Two minutes after he came back down and fucking they scored a winner, didn't he? Rogers get that goal in in the last what two minutes, didn't he? And they just Abraham, the lad the winner, like yeah, yeah, to 90 Jesus.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's mad. Like it was that chance that a man missed was a fortune of his helly type of chance, wasn't it? Yeah, but just I say just as well, someone there played for him, but an extra point there, and they would have made it on my list of extraters as well. Like, so they could have been playing for something, and yes, it might be so that could be a point dropped for big time and then we look at we were watching the games, didn't we, Connie?
SPEAKER_03You could flick them one to the other on the sky, and then we just thought the film it was over.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, three-one.
SPEAKER_03We then we thought it was over with them at Sunderland, just say right, and then we stretched the background was three hours and then literally two minutes after you turn the back on, Yvan had that glorious sense near the end, didn't he? For that Sunderland to go in four-three, and then he just tried to think I said, Oh yeah, but then for them get the killer goal at the end after that. Sunderland was being ejected. Because it would have been as you said, did they have the next couple of points then they could have been playing together?
SPEAKER_02Funny, yeah. They would have so that sort of brings us on to this little uh thing we're gonna do now with just gonna look ahead to the fixtures for the title race, the European spots, and then the relegation. So I didn't include Sunderland because they're on 46 points and so are full. Yeah. Right? So I'm just gonna go through the title force, right? We're just gonna see how many points we think these teams are gonna get, right? So man, we'll start with Man C. So they'll play away to Bourne tomorrow. So that should be three points a day. We'd all agree on that, yeah? 100% I think they beat Everton away. Away. If Liverpool can beat them away, that's true. Yeah, he'll beat them away. She sort of have to put it away, like if Venus like then it's a home to Brentford. It's a must-win game, they'll he'll find a way to beat them. Then they're away to Barmort. That'd be tough, that could be a draw. Yeah. Give them a one point. Yeah, that could be a one-nil win or something for them, but we go with a point, we're a home to Villa. Yeah. That's the last game, and then there's Steve another fixture at home to Palace, which is to be decided. So they beat them, yeah. They'll win them as they'll beat that one as well, we so we're saying that Cle get 3, 6, 9, 12, 15, 16 points. So they're on 67 points, because that brings them up to 83 points. So they'll we think they'll finish the league on 83 points. So now I arsenal. Home to Newcastle. Are you putting that down as a draw on your predictions? Or do you think they'll win? Oh, you think they'll win? Yes, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Newcastle has struggled. Win.
SPEAKER_02Win. Away to West Ham. Draw. The only reason I think it's a draw is because that's where the name of the Champions League matches are in between. Yeah, they're gonna be just rolling up our points. Yeah. Then they're a home to Burnley.
SPEAKER_03Win.
SPEAKER_02And then they're away to Crystal Palace the last game of the season. The wins should have been that, shouldn't he? So three, six, nine, twelve, twelve thing. So they're also gonna be on eighty-three points. That's the goal difference. Yeah. And the goal scored. I think City have plus that's five goals more scored on the Arsenal something this year, so it'll come down to goal difference, maybe.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it'll be a close league in the end. But we just now look at some of them, that's just us giving their opinion. Some of them five games of pressure. City could lose two of them, and Nars could lose two of them. You just don't know, it's football. Yeah, definitely. No, but it'll be good to the end. Yeah, yeah, it'd be interesting. Well, if it's gonna be that close, it's going to be, isn't it? Well, look, if three four weeks ago we just saw Arsenal gonna win the next, yeah. So so for us we even doing this, and you have to be doing that kind of like it just drastically changed, didn't it?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and look you it could keep going the way they're gone. They could draw it home to Newcastle, draw it home to Fulham, see you could win two games, be five points clear or something. Yeah, like it's man.
SPEAKER_03Look, we could we said that it's not a great league this year, but that part where as you're saying Europe and the bottom, it's exciting.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Right, so then we move on to Europe. So we start with Man United, it's a we're a tour of 58 points. So home to Brantford is our next game. Win. Have to win, don't we? Yeah. Then it's a home to Liverpool. Win. Draw. I think we've beaten all the teams. We go with Shell, go over the win. Yeah. Sunderland away. I think that could be dodgy. Yeah. I don't think we're gonna win.
SPEAKER_03So they want to put a draw at a loss. I don't know. Yeah, why do we win? For the simple reason what you're into saying there kind of they don't have to play for Anthem, so they're on the holidays.
SPEAKER_02We'd think of drawing, then we hold the forest, win, have to win that, don't they? And then away to Brighton. I mean that could be it could be in the Champions League. Yeah, already couldn't go over it.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, draw they could lose. Yeah, if they might draw, yeah. But you got only half of them points that we put down, they're already guaranteed a spot in the Champions League, because I don't think Chelsea can.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so means you'll have we're saying Man United are going to get three, six, nine, ten, eleven points. So they'll be on sixty-nine points to finish the season, we think, compared to what 42 last year. Yeah. Isn't it a big huge difference?
SPEAKER_03But that's only because of the goals he's gold. Yeah, three away. So then Aston Villa pull them away.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Draw. I put it down to draw. That's a tricky game. Spores are home. Away to Bornley, we end up beating them. A home to Liverpool. Draw, draw, draw. And then away to Man. Large, yeah. It has to be a large. So we're saying Villa then are gonna get three, six, seven, eight points, which will take them up to sixty-four points. Which they'll finish on. So so far they're just still underneath us. They're live up hill. So live at 55 points so far, right? So a home to Crystal Palace. Oh 66 points. Yeah, we gave them eight points, I mean. Yeah, 66, yeah. Um 66 points for Asen Villa, so still three points behind us. Live up hill, 55 points. A home to Palace. Loss. Should win that. A win, yeah. Away tonight. We said low, so we've got a thing about it. Um a home to Chelsea. I think it'd be Chelsea. I think it'd be them fields, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. We're gonna make a decent end to the season. You have to as well, but it's alright, like picking up points there. Then away to Villa. We already said that'd be a draw. So another draw. Then a home to Brentford. I think that'll be Eaton. So we'll say yeah, might have to go for yeah. So we're saying three, six, nine, ten points for Liverpool. Takes them on to sixty-five points. So that's a point behind Aston Villa. And that'll be down in fifth. So sixty-five points. We're saying a right fifth spot. So keep that in mind. So now we're down a bit of a gap to Chelsea and a couple of things are 48 here. So away to Brighton tonight. Could be a draw. A home to Forest. I don't think. Yeah, you will beat it. I think you will. Forest away to Louisville. We said it'll be a loss. A home to Tottenham. Jesus. I always say that'd be a draw.
SPEAKER_03Give it London.
SPEAKER_02And then away to Sunderland in the last game.
SPEAKER_03You can win, I say. Because in that way, but I say she'll probably have to win. Yeah, true.
SPEAKER_02So that's one four five. That's eight points. We're given Chelsea. So that takes him up to what? Fifty-six points. Forty eighty. Well behind. So then on the ground. Then away to us, we said we should beat them. So you would. A home to West Ham. Then away to Man Sea, Home to Palace. And then away to Liverpool, we said would be a loss the last game of the season. So that's six points we said that Brentford are gonna get. So they'll finish up on four 54 points. So just behind Chelsea. So now Balmer, this is where I think it gets very interesting for Balmer. They're also on 48 points. They're a home to Leeds, we said they should be. A home to Palace, which again we said they should win. Away to full. A home to City Loss. We said that the City will draw with them. So we're gonna give them a a point to stay consistent. And then away to Forest the last game of the season. Win.
SPEAKER_03Only the reason is because if they're playing by that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, they might have to go a little bit like so. Then we're saying they're gonna get nine points for the rest of the season. We should put them up to 57. So so far they've been 6'5. So then the last two teams then are Brighton and Everton because they're 47. So Brighton are home to Chelsea tonight, which we said they should get a draw out of that. Away to Newcastle. A home to Wolves should be three, shouldn't it? Away to Leeds. And then a home to us, which we said he'll get a draw out. So that's for Brighton, it's one, two, five, six, seven points at them. Which puts them up to 54 as well. Which would be level with Brentford. So they'd be sort of fighting about eight sort of spot. Could be goal differences. And then Everton's fixtures are sort of the toughest, I think, out of them all. Away to West Ham, home to City, away to Palace, home to Sunderland, and away to Sport. So I don't think they'll be able to do that. No, yeah. So we're going the way we're going there. City or Arsenal, on goal difference, will obviously win the league. Yeah, yeah, yeah. United will be toured, Villa'll be fourth, Liverpool will be fifth, and then Bournemouth will be sixth. Right?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah, well you can. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03If you look at Chelsea if you look at Chelsea's last results, you it's hard to see them picking up results. So we're not we won't be wrong, and we're not doing the disjustice just for Chelsea fans. They're just not playing well enough to put them in the table.
SPEAKER_02And Brentford pick up more points than we think we're going to get, and it could be Barmer Brent or Chelsea. Yeah, well, look at it. I have this role down. So when the season's over, we'll come back and see how we'll have a chat about right we were. Like because I know a couple of weeks ago we did it and we did point out that Chelsea were the team that we looked at and thought once they keep losing, we should be alright. And it's sort of obviously torn out to be that way with a fiction. Of course, take one to him, get rid of them, and then select on the top five bit. So then just a relegation, then before we move on to Sean's questions. I didn't, like I said, I didn't include leads because I think they are safe. Yeah. So they're playing away to Sunderland now Friday night. Draw. Yeah, there could be a could be a point to keep them up. Then it's away to Chelsea. So again, we said Chelsea would beat them. So we're going to give them no points for that game. A home to Newcastle. Again, they could get a point at least. Yeah, but I mean away to us, we said we'd beat them. And then they're playing away to Bournemouth. Or a home to Bournemouth already, the last game of the season. So we said that they'd get a point over that. So that's three points for the rest of the season. So that's 49 points. We said Forrest will be on, right? So they're West Ham with 43 points. And they're playing Everton this weekend. A home. So draw. Away to Brentford. We said that Brentford would beat them. Then they're a home to Arsenal.
SPEAKER_03No points.
SPEAKER_02We already said a draw away. So we're going to give them another point there. Then they're away to Newcastle.
SPEAKER_03Again, it's It'll depend on what you need to do by that stage of the game.
SPEAKER_02You might say they'll lose, just to be fair. And then they're home to Leeds in the last game of the season. So again, that could be a win. Leeds could be safe, yeah. Yeah. So they'll need to win to stay up, I think. We've only given the three, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, they'll need to win to stay up there.
SPEAKER_02So that's three for five points, we said Villa West Ham are going to get. So that'll take them up to 38 points. So we're saying forest will be safe. So now spores. Away to Wolves is that force game. Three. Do you think so? I think they'll be a wolves away. I think they have to. I really think they have to. Away to Villa? No. No. Because we already said Villa would be a home to Leeds. Yeah, it's all the way. I think Leaders are getting a point today. Away to Chelsea. We already said Chelsea would draw with them, so we'd have to give them one point.
SPEAKER_03What did we say Leeds are do against Andrew?
SPEAKER_02Did we have Leader to? No, we didn't have them in for now. And then a home to Everton the last game of the season. A home to Everton? Yeah. Now so far the points we have three, four, five, which would put them up to 36 points, which would mean they have to beat Everton. That's how that's interesting. You'll either end up on their calculations, you'll either end up on 36 points, they'll draw to get 37, or they'll win to get 49. So do you want to do that? You think they'll get a draw? Yeah, I think they're gone. Or that could be again you lose or something. Yeah. So we're saying three, four, five, six points for Spores, which takes them up to 37 and relegated. So again, at the end of the season, we'll go back over them and see how close we are to the points and see if we've got any of them right or if there's been a surprise or whatnot. And it's just because we show you there's so much to play for, doesn't it?
SPEAKER_03As you said, there's one or two teams in the middle that just not playing for anything. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's it. Exactly, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. So uh yeah, look at we'll move on to Sean's questions. We have a bit of time for two or three of them anyway. And like I said, I keep sending them in and we'll answer them next week in the week after. Yeah. Maybe we have to hold somewhere to lead and answer them all anyway. So um Sean, I'll fire over to uh fire them over to you whenever you're ready there. Um Ray. Um let me see a second there, let me get me things. There we go, it's loading up. Right. So um we go with the fourth one there from uh Robbie wrote into us again. He said, uh if Byron don't win the Champions League, will Harry Kane join the list of the biggest names nowhere to win the Champions League? Yeah, we could obviously stay with him next year. Let's say he moves. Yeah, we're up to the next one. Let's say he plays Monday night next year, you know, up front. Um I think I know what he was getting at.
SPEAKER_03It'd have to be like did you say have a look at the list of what's some big names.
SPEAKER_02Oh, I kind of just thought you'd have an idea. I've heard of it before, like uh R9 and Ibrahimovich and Ibrahimovic at the minute, like yeah. I call it the top ten, if people listening, they might know.
SPEAKER_03This is I remember years ago there was a good goalkeeper in there, wasn't there? We eventually remember that like yeah. I don't think Aguero ever won it either. No. Um Ashley's never won it, so he's picking a few of their good players like that. Never won it. Dennis Burr Party Vierda.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, there's two on the money, yeah. Yeah, yeah, them two. On Rio's. He's nearly had the top ten. Let's think Tottti. If it was he in there that he won it with Roma, he's just there with the one club, like preparing this home. You think big clubs like that? Who else won about like when before Manchester City won it? Was it anyway? David Silva, did he win it? Yeah, he didn't win it anything. I think it wasn't winning.
SPEAKER_03And erm, how many more do we have left to go? Net Vez. See you up there. I'm I think we think it was something else. NetVed. Ned Ved, yeah, every event is he never won a rider, did he?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, he's in the Paul Pogba. I suppose you could sort of show his better now.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Um if you want to pick your night, if you want to pick a night fair, never won it, who's a great player? Robin Van Persie.
SPEAKER_02Eric Cantoner, yeah. Canton, I can never win it. What's your man's name? The play for Leiden his son plays now. French fella, left back. Well, I had the list. Did you play this city? Yeah, no, yeah, I know it's Toran or Toran or his son plays now, doesn't he think?
SPEAKER_03Cannabaro. Then this city?
SPEAKER_02He never won he played.
SPEAKER_03Here's the what about this one? We call him this because we don't know, like, but we always say this. I hope people don't get a feel. We can't even say this, the word Renaldo. Oh my god. Yeah, yeah. He I was just thinking him was this he must have been. I tell him I never won that was only younger. If you look at realistically because we know it, um and Bappy, so didn't he leave PhD to go to Rem written and PhD winning the L. No, we sure use loads of time to win it down the road. Oh, but it's a big list.
SPEAKER_02A couple of others um they just gave the top twenty four or two. Gabriel Batistuda's another one. Jesus. Um Roberto Baggio, uh one he's missing.
SPEAKER_03Antoine Griezmann. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Michael Balak never won it. Balak, he must have lost in a couple of finals, yeah. And there's a big one to be honest. Rude Van Ister right. Some names, isn't there? Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Some of them would have laughed in a couple of finals. He had the premiership. Yeah. Some of them would have laughed in finals, like good question, but I mean, like the tower without actually looking at it. I mean like you just remember, don't you? Like you if you remember Champions League finals, don't you?
SPEAKER_02Because um I just I just thought he would be one of the up there and then I was like, Yeah, actually, I know it was one of them things, it was a question before just talking to lads or whatever else throughout the years, like it's a close. I said I'll Google it and then I'm like, you know, I wasn't expecting some of them. You'd make you go tame down, wouldn't you? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. Just watching the Chelsea again, they're they're looking at losing one nil already after three minutes, so yeah, yeah. They're falling apart, aren't they? Yeah. Right, so the next question, um it's a good one, and we're gonna piss people off at this, I'd say. From Niel, he wrote into us, he's a new new listener. Um who would you swap Bruno for in word football football as in his position? Oh if you had the money, you'd think you'd have to care, like in his as a number ten. Look you you'd have to think of like the big team, so Borne Munich. I think I'd keep him over Mussi Aleph at the moment of time. Real Madrid's already play with him.
SPEAKER_03No, it's alright.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, um PSG don't either.
SPEAKER_03We'd probably put Carl Fameron play off Chelsea. I'd get him. Like he's a good player, like. Would you take him over Bruno if you had to? Oh no, no. Yeah, that's the way who would you swap Bruno for in world football? Nobody, I don't know what we're doing. No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't swap him for a minute. I misunderstood the question. I thought like, who would you just swap him for? Like if it was gone, who would you swap him for? Yeah. But really, had to pick someone. Who would you swap him for? No, because then if you had no, you if you had to keep them, of course, you wouldn't be swapping them at all.
SPEAKER_01No, I wouldn't swap them at all.
SPEAKER_03I would just keep them and that's it, and build a good. He said he's the type of player I think that'd still be fitting up to run around in three years. He's one of the type of players, I think. Yeah. Like he's like he's 31 put running around like a 28-year-old.
SPEAKER_02Well you look at I know it's a different league and whatever else, but like I said, Tommy Crows and Moderate different slightly acquisitions, but still centre midfield at the top level. They played until they were 35-36 within Champions League, didn't he? Oh yeah, maybe maybe United's philosophy will backfire on them now next year or the year after when all that's under 26 is what they're going for. Maybe Fernandez and Harry Kane and the Torties and win them a league. Could you imagine? Could you imagine? The ambition that they need to have and should have, but if you need experience, no, I don't think so. But I know it's a good question. Thanks for that. Um so just about the United match. Well, was the United win descendants by James? Was the United win down to Carrick or how bad Chelsea were? Oh well, I think a bit. Well I'll give him a bit of credit. Yeah. In terms of he went down sort of to be solid. And they were solid. But Chelsea were poor as well. They didn't offer anything. Well I think the bitter of both. I thought the Chelsea were all the look a bit as well.
SPEAKER_03They hit the bar a couple of times, uh, Chelsea just. He managed the second half well, I thought.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_03They managed the game well at all. Yeah, they limited the Chelsea line. Now Chelsea had a poor side, but United were going in like with a matchup defence.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03And they're always conceding goals in the game when they're playing away, nearly a home log, doesn't matter. So that'd be tied to what they concede the goal. So for them not to concede, I know Chelsea haven't scored a goal in a little well or something, and they're not playing great, but they still managed the game well to go um and play um and needing a kickoff on a Saturday night in London.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03To come away with three points was a great win. So a little bit of carrick, but I think they got a little bit of luck as well.
SPEAKER_02Sometimes you have to just play with the hands of the cars at Delta. Yeah, yeah. You have no choice feelings but to maybe set up a bit more defensive than what you've got. So they went in and carrick a lot, you know. I know I have this time, this stage of season, just thinking, I actually didn't realise how close we were to the end of the season. I know that sounds super. You know what I mean? Just the leaders match pissed me off. So um get three points over the night. Yeah, it's games like that. We like that we slated Steve Holland last week, but like that, these big games where the sitting and defend is what's still too united with the coach and staff that we have. Like, just is it a surprise we've beaten City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea away now when these teams come into town? Oh surprise.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, all that coaching, all the coaching. Apart from Carrie being the manager, all these coaches are all defensive minded. Yeah, yeah, I think so.
SPEAKER_02But uh yeah, no, thank you. Thanks for that. Um so judging by your lovely comments on Arsenal, I don't know who he's acting, probably me. This is from Rob. Rob sended us a couple of weeks ago as well. Why do you want City to win it over Arsenal? Oh the fans, it's just a whole and the manager. Yeah, we know a couple of people in Manchester, obviously United fans and whatnot, but they're the same. Like and like us, any United fan should want Arsenal to win it. City are going to the league, they've sort of cheated away into everything, supposedly, allegedly, until they're found guilty. Everybody should want City not to win it. Yeah, but it's the opposite, just because, like you said, the fans are so delusional. The managers, I believe, that's Arsenal Lunatic. They're Arsenal fans. Yeah, they build them up to be even ex-players, like they build them up to be this sort of the best teams is Man United so whatever. He's a god shot him, Martin King drives me. Like City win the league, you won't hear about it three days later. But Arsenal falling apart is would be just brilliant. And it might actually make them realise to just you know what, we'll shut up until we actually win something. Yeah, that they're only getting run averagely. Well, yeah, I agree with the two points that you've both made for the manager and the fans, but I don't know any city fans, so I don't have to hear the noise. Yeah, and even when if you see it on social media, it doesn't even bother me. Like they won the they won the the Parabelle Cup and you wouldn't even hear a moment. It was forgotten about the next day. No, the several decades. But if you picked up the card, you know, there'd be something for them to cling on to to make it sound better than it actually is.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, you know, so yeah, the reason why I think everything goes down to the Argans and to do with Arsenal, really from the fans and everybody was a fan or any other fan, nobody wants Arsenal doing it.
SPEAKER_02No, no, that's that's a that's a the last point. Sorry, these literally turned every single other fan base against them. That just speaks for itself. So that's the way they're playing, and the way they go on is the Artigan is the art, that's all there is just to do with that. I was like I was saying to you last night and he's in the D UFC, and Paddy Pimley from Liverpool, I think you'll know who he has been. But um someone asked him a question who he who he hates the most off of fan bases, Arsenal. And he said that's only a recent hate. Only the last couple of years he said he just you think that players are the best players ever, the manager's the best manager ever, and he hadn't won a fucking thing. And his accent makes it sound funnier, like you know, yeah, but um yeah, but uh yeah, no, thanks for that. Yeah, thanks to look at the question, yeah. For Arsenal fans have to come.
SPEAKER_03But look at where they see the liker. We're only giving our opinion. But they can still win two trophies. Yeah, they can, you know, they're still there for them to legal, I guess.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, imagine if they did, my god. Um so many legal happens, isn't it? Oh no, that's true as well. Would Spurs be the biggest club relegated that you've seen through the years? And obviously there's a difference in years between the between us, God obviously mean you'll be closer, uh, from Darren. Darren's a new listener as well, he wrote into us. Yeah, like I mean, well, Newcastle and Villa, and now when they got relegated, that was impressive, but for me they would be just because of the whole of the teams there, they spend more money and all and whatnot. And the club and all, and being just getting them and all, like yeah, that this agent was made for Champions League nights, not championship nights.
SPEAKER_03No, and you know what, you're right, Connor. And you know what it is as well? You ask anybody even through the last 10 years just saying they're always talking about the top six, they should be a top six club. Everybody thinks sports should be a top six club. So for them to get relegated, it'd be a disaster, uh together. Yeah, complete disaster, and I'd have to agree, it they cost it with the biggest uh biggest team to be relegated in that leak, and it would just prove a point where I said earlier on at the start of this podcast that no team is is is good enough to to to to go down. If you don't perform and don't get your recruitment right, of course you can go down. They've had a lot of injuries again that but they haven't even picked up any points really. Like you know with sports, to support you with top six, they should be able to do with injuries and struggle to day, but not get relegated. Players getting injured, no.
SPEAKER_02United had a lot of getting sent off and everything. You know, you had one fish had a hard to day went away and one that's healthy. Now we're speaking slag and I for not being the best team ever, but it's like you said to make the job. So they should they should never get relegated. No, but it's management the players they have like the uh management managing themselves and the management of the players. Obviously, they've been through a few managers, but players getting sent off. Remember even Romero against uh Casemiro against us in in the when he played United. Stupid decisions, yeah.
SPEAKER_03But oh Devane getting the right cards well, doesn't he? But it doesn't always work that way. Somebody think you're getting players getting angels for the season, and and then with things seem to go against you, they just seem to always go against you, and then but sports fans will still say five bits. So I said, Well, look, if you can't get relegated, we're too big, but you can.
SPEAKER_02You can and that's it. And gone by your predictions, early. You will, you will, huh? So they're definitely the biggest thing in my I've seen.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and you lose players, so be bigger than leads going down for you. Oh yeah, big time, yeah. And you could say down as long as leads too, let me tell you. Yeah. The few play fewer the players will go, and then you'll that's one tough lead to go with. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I think it's um like you say, it's bigger because the amount of money they've spent, and all leads were in the Champions League and all before, getting relegated and stuff, but oh, they're players left-ended, yeah.
SPEAKER_03But you said you you only said a second corner, they bought the stadium, they're to generate loads of money. They'd be playing the Champions League, they'll be doing all these big uh concerts like the Wemby the South, the Wellby the North. They were staying at the stadium that's gonna generate so much money that they shouldn't be in anywhere near a predicament going down. But yeah, of course the recruitment wasn't right. See a few more um concerts there now, I think, if they get ready.
SPEAKER_02So that's what like they obviously get some cover from or whatever else, whatever I think. But I don't think it's a Beyonce or not to be singing there anymore. Like, don't they? We might get a podcast, a live show there. That's that's the standard of there.
SPEAKER_03I'm whether them and Wrexham will have a great game, I'm sure. Wrexham might be in the Premier League and maybe look, I'm just saying. Look, I'm sure Arsenal fans won't care. I'd say they'd be more happy I don't see them going down on us because we're my United fans, so we don't really care. But as you're in a London club, all their rivals would be just so happy to for them to especially Westland. We can laugh now, and and like we wouldn't be laughing last year if it happened to us. So we started to have an idea, but we got over last year at the end to say, but they're really if I was at Force Fans now, we'd be really worried. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02No, yeah, that's it then for this week, number 45. So thanks for everyone that's listening, and all the new followers you have and new listeners and whatnot again from Ireland and around the world. Thanks for continuing listening and sending your questions into Sean. Keep the on so I have a few more questions there as well. Just I'll keep them for next week. They be relevant each week in a way. Plenty of questions get sent into me, a lot of them get um repeated as well. But um I I text people back, like you know, as well. So we so they all they all know. But yeah, some very good questions there. So and outside the box thinking is controlled at us, like you know. Yeah, a good talk point for all football fans, you know. So thanks very much. Absolutely, yeah. So um we'll be back next week then again. Looking back at the the results on the weekend, just gone in the Epway Cup, see who gets into the final of that.
SPEAKER_03And yeah, thanks for everyone that's listening and United next Monday night again, isn't it? Yeah, again, the artists for maybe tonight.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but look, anyway, hopefully we're playing Wednesday or three. tonight next year. Yeah, we'll be back there next week and thanks for listening. Thank you. Thank you.
SPEAKER_03Thanks for listening.