Episode 38 - VAR VAR VARSENAL

On this weeks episode we looked back on what was an incident packed weekend in the premier league. VAR was at the centre of Arsenals victory over West Ham, Doku is keeping City in the title race as they beat Brentford, Spurs could only draw with Leeds, and we spend very little time on the boring 0-0 draw between Sunderland and Man United. Plenty of footballing news from the footballing world from Bruno Fernandes winning Football Writers Player of the Year, to Real Madrid falling apart. We finished off by answering more listeners questions.

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:05

Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. Episode 38, Lads in the Sideline Podcast. It's me, Connor, joined by my sister Sean. Welcome back everyone. Hope everybody's doing well. And our father, Villa. Welcome back, everybody, as usual.

SPEAKER_02 0:19

Thanks for listening. It's much appreciated. How are we getting on? All right, yeah. Yeah. Good, yeah, yeah. Just come here and join the weather and enjoy the football. Like it's coming to the stage now at the end now where it's all kinds of important, isn't it? Yeah. Like even well now, like what we talk about United's game as usual as we go along, but even last night's getting the wit getting the draw then and could have snuck winning for a brilliant saving and we go through them and get results. But every game now for a lot of teams is very important, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 0:46

This time last year I wanted the league just to be over. We all did, I'd say, and just give me a break, go on holidays and come back, hopefully, look at transfers. But now we just don't want the football to end, you know what I mean? Just want to keep going, wanted the season to start back and get going again. You know, we have the World Cup obviously to look forward to. But I was like last year, I was like, oh Jesus, no, just pull the plug now at least. If you finish 16th or 14th, makes no leading difference. No, it didn't make any difference now. Yeah, now it's I know we have Champions League, but we just want the supposed season to finish, yeah, and then get get the season started again. Yeah. It's driving me mad. A big summer we need. We need a big summer hit. Like what's gonna what's what's the difference now? If the if and like they're gonna see how Carrie gets on the last two games. What's no we can't change position more or less. No, I think maybe they're the only interviews that we don't know about or something. The only thing I will say to them since INYAS came in, wherever like news comes out, it seems to be what they want to come out. Yeah, just more so than like all this leaking sort of stuff. So maybe they are tall and the people are maybe they f maybe they've tall carnagy he has the job already. Maybe yeah, and you're just picking a date to tell us now.

SPEAKER_02 1:58

Yeah, that's it. Like you're right, there is more secrets of what's going on now, isn't it? Which is great. We don't want to know any leaks that's coming out. So it's great, like if you say when they just want to come out with a bit of information, it's just there and then you're getting it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:11

Do you know what I mean? Like maybe they do it before the the fourth time in ages now. The jersey's gonna come out before the end of the season. Obviously they're doing that before the World Cup because they can't sell it in America when they go on tour. Of course. Maybe they they'll do something, they'll name Carigas a manager like two days before the World Cup starts and take all the the plaudits and all the eyes around United again. Yeah, do you do it? Maybe well, if I was them, I would be strategically doing these things. Like, I would be releasing the jersey early. Well, yeah, good and definitely, and people are so I've seen some people on social media giving out about that. Well, just give it over. You can't give out about everything. You know, I'm we're all negative towards them like you know, but this is a business as well. That's the business side of things. But if you release a jersey now, I think it's a good time to release it to get people to buy it early. Of course. Well, then people out in their jersey buying frenzy because it's the World Cup or Bunny Knight jerseys. I should pick that up as well.

SPEAKER_02 3:03

Come here. You know, this is very smart. It's been it's PR, yeah. And if you don't have a good PR team, then it's ridiculous. So of course you have to do it, they're getting well paid to do a job, and of course they're gonna do it.

SPEAKER_01 3:13

I hate being spun around with players and transfers and all, but like this get as much money as you can, of course, if they're gonna reinvest it, but everything's a bit more transparent nowadays. So yeah, and do they know they can do this to get more money in before the end of the financial window, knowing that they're getting Champlain Z money next year, so they're not gonna miss out on jersey sales next year. But we get a couple of hundred million in now before it's good revenue coming in as well. I should give themselves more dividends, I hope.

SPEAKER_02 3:40

That that's who I think right, and and the way it is, is like it can only be good like they're selling jerseys like that at this time because at the end of the day the air you throw them out and quite good he sell them.

SPEAKER_01 3:51

Yeah, and Carrick as well, like if they're gonna give it to them, they better not be just giving them a a year contract. I see people now out there speculating that's more like all days because they say that it's tight, nobody's there's nothing coming out at all. But um some of the people on social media who have a big following are saying that they could be just giving them a season, they better not give them that. It's either all in or all in the room.

SPEAKER_02 4:09

I don't think you take a season, you know.

SPEAKER_01 4:10

I don't think they himself would take a season. It's not true to them. I don't know, it could be them just starting trouble, is what it sounds like. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:17

No, we're not gonna say it last week because you keep them for another year and all there's a steady shipping. I remember we were saying that now, but but like that's all right from a point of view from us to say, right? Yeah, but um if he was offered that, there's no way you take that. Yeah, that's not stability for him.

SPEAKER_01 4:30

No, the reason why we're gonna be somebody else. Yeah, you're right, you know, he said that is because I never think it actually happened. No, no, we didn't think the giveaway, but if that's probably what needs to happen, not what will happen, but then they all start coming out. I was like, no. No, we're not jobs. I could understand it, but it's not if you think about it when you break it down, it's not gonna work. That's just uh a real fragile club to do that. Maybe we are, as we've been saying about it. Picking the can down the road to them to do that, like sort of thing. But you can't just go there's a year. What would that look like really when you think about it? Like, that's probably what needs to happen to be honest. It's not gonna happen because you have to be the monster, man. United can't be doing stuff like that.

SPEAKER_02 5:07

No, they won't. And then Carrie wouldn't be Carrie wouldn't allow himself to just take a one-year contract when there's allowed the manager's jobs out there, and I'm sure like somebody'd step in and say, Well, look, you did well with mine, right? Now come on. Like it could be it could be offers on the table of him as well elsewhere. At the end of the day, like, who even knows whether he would even take the job? Yeah, really because we were everybody thought about him doing this and doing that, and they're giving it somebody else and character getting all like how would you know he wants it?

SPEAKER_01 5:30

Yeah, maybe you might want to walk with Baum at Crystal Palace and live in London.

SPEAKER_02 5:34

So maybe maybe deep down himself, like you might know that'd be a very big job and it gives you a privilege to get it done, but maybe deep down he knows himself that he might be good enough for the whole club. Nobody knows. It's 50-50 and we're an eyes and nobody knows what's going on. That's it.

SPEAKER_01 5:49

Exactly, yeah. Everybody's just on edge. But we're trying to hit every angle, and you're going back on each other on what we're saying then as well. Hell no, I mean everybody has who cares about the club, you know, that's what I'm thinking about. Well, I've said that, but I've said that, and like we just don't know, we just want to know. Of course, we just want to we just want to know what where our plans can be for next year, and all that's it. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's we get into the match, but that squad needs a major overhaul as we yeah, as we'll get into it. I mean over the match, but we don't think to be too much to talk about the match, will there?

SPEAKER_02 6:19

We normally pass by no all draws, it's only as united.

SPEAKER_01 6:22

Yeah, well, there is a business end of the season, so just quick we'll touch on the Champions League final in a couple of weeks before us it's actually on, but PSG and Arsenal, at least you know now what the the final is.

SPEAKER_02 6:34

It should be a good final, should be brilliant, two brilliant teams in the final, brilliant attacking teams. I'll get there before Sean.

SPEAKER_01 6:44

No comment. Like it'd be difficult for PSG. That's all I will say it's one off game. If if Arsenal can slog this out like they have done all season, they could easily not easily win this, but you could win on the corner. You could you could win it on penos, they don't they don't concede many goals. I get them that someone someone could drag Pacho down the corner and just knock her in with a head on the hand, that's what maybe get away with like Johnny. Yeah, well, because they're getting away with all season, so the only thing is they haven't faced uh an attack like this, I'd say yeah, when there's like big trophy, trophy. Like they they played, they beat Bri Brian Munich in the group stage, so I'm hearing all fucking weak. So they can beat a big team. It's not the same, not the same as in the final as in this close to the final quarter final, semi-final, final teams just behave differently around. Of course they did. And they've played it that all season, Arsenal. They haven't up there, and they've just done the usual tricks that that that they've done. They haven't changed, they haven't changed, haven't changed, but they're gonna be facing a different animal now. But anyway, we'll touch over that and but I wouldn't be surprised if they do win, I'll be honest. No, I guess I can't see PH not scoring against them. Yeah, I can't. There's too much talent up there, yeah. Unless a big bag of money's at the Belland on the referee's lap, but I don't know. Yeah, um I'm not too sure. No, we'll look at commitment.

SPEAKER_02 8:03

Well, they're they don't they don't get hammered, so you know. No, they don't conceive too many goals. If you don't conceive too many goals, you're all you're always in rich hands, that's all I'd say.

SPEAKER_01 8:10

No, I always say them all, but like I have to say something. Like they have the talent to be better. Yeah, that's the frustrating thing, I suppose. It's not I shouldn't even be frustrated, it's just you know, I don't know, it's weird. Yeah, it's a weird feeling everybody has about them. Well, we'll see in a couple of weeks. We'll go and have a little preview of it and see what we all think of it then. Um the playoffs then as well, forced him into a hole who scraped into sixth place, beat Millball 2-0 last night. So they're into the playoff final now. Millball came toward. Yeah, there was a 10 points difference between the league, and they missed out was it goal difference or two points behind Ipswich from goal?

SPEAKER_02 8:51

That's all no, one point. One point, one point in the league, yeah. Ten points ahead of Holy Well in the playoffs, like top team to the bottom team, you know, but there you go, go to show yourself tonight.

SPEAKER_01 9:01

They are looking to the playoffs in the last 15 minutes, the last game of the season. So now tonight Middlesbrough are playing Southampton, so look at anything can happen. Yeah, you'd you'd ordinarily say whoever wins tonight should win, but pfft. God knows. But uh that'd be interesting to look forward to. That was a good match to look at, isn't it? In fairness, that's the final. Yeah, it means so much, doesn't it? Yeah, big time, yeah. Um Thorberg to play a final then, uh to see Southampton in the middle. Southampton is got a cop fill in the middle.

SPEAKER_00 9:35

The train, wouldn't it?

SPEAKER_01 9:36

Yeah, it's the train. Yeah, it was and there's like a donor, just sort of talk of if Southampton were to get promoted, they might have get a fine and points taken off. Like so they might start off on minus points taking pictures in the bushes for video and the train and not that going on in England. Sorry, I'm gonna say that well but got to say man, what are you doing? Like, you have to watch the middle play 46 matches this season. Sure, you know how many play.

SPEAKER_02 10:08

That's it, you just concentrating your own. I mean, the informal team's still in the league, like a part of the two teams that obviously end up. Um, surely got you just concentrating your own. As you said, you should know you should know how they play if they're playing playing with the whole season. Yeah, just come back and look at all the videos, like you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_01 10:25

I don't know, I don't score his players' time as well, isn't it? Yeah, my manning's left fallen. Yeah, yeah, a couple of Irish players. He's playing with Yaman Manning are into the team of the season, didn't he?

SPEAKER_00 10:34

Yeah, he did, yeah. In fairness to him.

SPEAKER_01 10:36

But uh yeah, I don't know what they were up there. Look at he got caught, yeah. He deserved to get caught. So he probably deserved to get knocked out as well. Yeah, well the one's pretty good side too. So er touching then on to a couple of close things with the league, one league is over, Barcelona won their La Liga, yes, uh ADB for Real Madrid. Yeah, we'll touch on Real Madrid's problems later, Sean got a question about them. Um Bradford fairs and he scored a good free kick. Yeah. So hopefully he goes to see now like yeah. Yeah, I see it like top con.

SPEAKER_02 11:09

Like I've just seen it there on the Sky News here, uh and I just think to say, according to the party, I suppose they have a really good game. Like he's gone at them and causing loads of problems. So, like, hopefully that's the game that might convince them just to buy him and that's it.

SPEAKER_01 11:24

It's his wages, probably is the problem, but yeah, I think that's up to them to renegotiate. Yeah. Which sort of brings us on to just it's not a really bit of news, it's just also a sort of topic that sort of pisses me off. So that's Rashford now that's left United and won the league. So they're saying Lucarty did the same, Ashley Young, like Tom and A. So they're like, oh, League United and they're gonna win a league somewhere else. It's something we always say. United win the Premier League if these players are good enough, they'd still be at United. And they'd still be United be gone for the league title now if they were all still at United and good enough to play. But they're not. No, they'd ever show the attitude. You had their chance. Yeah, exactly. Like they're all there. I'm a rational fan, I know what you mean. I liked him, but it's just he did have the talent, it was just his hand ticks off the ball and outside of uh football. But that's a party of player. When you say like Ronaldo and Messi are the best players around, they don't really see too much in the in the in the media in a negative way. The bar of Ronaldo wearing a million dollar watch, but that that's nothing really. It's not getting drunk in a nightclub in New York, you know, it's you know the way so it doesn't affect that football. No, it doesn't matter, it's it's the package. When you say he's a great player, I think it's yeah, obviously his talent on the pitch is most important. Where's his attitude is what he does outside the pitch as well. Of course. But and and then you just have like McTominy, like he scored a couple of goals for us now, but he's not you bring him back to any to think he's not gonna play like he plays for Napoli now for Liverpool or Arsenal or uh a Man City. He contributed to the team, but he's not gonna be the same player. No, he had his chance, you know, and he wasn't that good. And they all played together as well at the same time. You know what you're trying to do. I know that that there was a lot of pissed me off there a little bit as well. If people people are sort of saying, Oh, go to go to away united and you'll be successful. But if that's the case in Sancho, Lukakio, and Rashford should be air front three. Still, Hogbett and McTomney should be our two midfield players. Like, do you know what I mean? Like that's it makes no sense. Like no, but you know what, they're going to be a chance to get Lemmo.

SPEAKER_02 13:18

Yeah, no, it's all other factors as well, but yeah, that would, as you said. No, there's good team, there's good teams in Real Madrid and and Barcelona in Spain just there, right? And Detroit Madrid after going downhill a little bit just there, right? But then you even go to Italy just saying you have your top couple of teams like your ventus and app, and all the dirt sign of just saying the two Milan teams and all, but still not the premiership. So it doesn't matter once you leave, whether it's leaving United, it doesn't make any difference, right? Or once you leave, just say Liverpool or Chelsea or Mansey, and you're going to a European team, just say to play in Europe, just say, right. Um don't even mind the rest of the world, just say to Europe. You're dropping your standards of the league you're going to. Now there's better teams in them leagues than Man United, don't get me wrong, but it's the whole league. There's bad teams in Spain, there's bad teams in Germany, there's bad teams in France, there's bad teams in Italy. But any team in the Premiership can be any team in the Premiership. It's the toughest league in the world. And if you go out of that league, it's like you're not saying it wouldn't belittle them teams or them clubs or them leagues by saying that you're going into the championship, but it's a step back. Matter what way you're looking at, if you leave the premiership and you go to another league, it's a step back.

SPEAKER_01 14:23

No matter where you go, yeah. That's it.

SPEAKER_02 14:24

It's about to be better team, yeah. Like that could be a better team, but I'm just talking about the league in general. Yeah, like I mean, there's a lot of teams in in in in in just say Italy and in Spain that are very poor. Oh, yeah. So like you might you might have three or four hard games. Well, in the premiership you could have 20 hard games. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:39

Oh, yeah, right. Yeah, I know we've we s like the quality of the league, but that's just got to show you that the rest of them are even lower, then again. Yeah, that's what I know. So I think that's what I know when I get a comment that would say that you're contradicting yourself. No, but we said the quality is poor. It's the quality of football, so it's poor, I think, in the premiership, but still the best thing. It's the toughest league. Still the toughest league. Yeah, it's still very, very tough.

SPEAKER_02 14:59

Like, yeah, look at it, like still a bit more going on physically and all, and like you look at the Arsenal all the way to doing all the like not even picking on them the same, but in general, like um physicality, the premiership is just faster, more physical, and some players are just not able for it. Simple as that.

SPEAKER_01 15:15

Legarte being one example. I thought he was gonna fit the bill, but he just just was just not good enough. That's it. And if he goes to Napoli or somewhere, or he might go to Marseille, he'd do well. I'd say you will do it.

SPEAKER_02 15:28

Didn't see what we could go back to Italy with somebody then we could do that what we're just saying, but just say he can come there, but it's not always green or when you come to England. If you're not able for the physicality of the premiership, you won't walk.

SPEAKER_01 15:39

One example exception of that is Greenwood. Um I said he's the only show, should he go? No, he his ability he'd score goals in any team, anyway, at any level. I'm telling you, it's just being a dickhead off the pitch. That's the button of lightly.

SPEAKER_02 15:52

Yeah, but look at this players come into the league. He's the only exception. Yeah, look at this players come into the league and they're good as well, and you don't always have to buy premiership proven players to make anything better. I mean, it's an improvement over the years that you go out and scout players and get them come in from it in Spain and Barcelona and all and all these Real Madrid and all, and and all they can come in and be great in the premiership. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's just you just have to get it. It's overall as a whole, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:14

Exactly, yeah. Uh couple more bits and teeth before we move on to your fixtures, Vin. Uh, just to want to congratulate Bruno. He's the football writers player of the year, so we'll see if he gets the players player of the year now in a couple of weeks' time. So he should. An interesting one to see. Look, yeah, I hope he does. Yeah, I think he will, yeah. In fairness, I can think he will.

SPEAKER_02 16:35

Look at still so far, he would deserve it. And I'd still say deserve it if he gets another couple of assists and he breaks the record, just say. But then if Arsenal win the league and then you go on to win the Champions League, remember all these journals, they're gonna be all British nearly mountain that'll be voting, and and and then the players that are a lot a lot of English players, and should he'll be he'll be obviously voting for Rice. Do you know what I mean? Because of what he won, not because he's the best.

SPEAKER_01 16:59

It's an this is ridiculous, though. It's a players play a player of the year, not team of the year. That's what I'm saying. And yet and if he was instrumental, put great, but I'm sure he wasn't in some some ways, but he's but he wasn't more impactful on Arsenal than Bruno was on United's.

SPEAKER_02 17:14

No, you Bruno was much better.

SPEAKER_01 17:15

Arsenal have other players there, Steph with Gabrielle, Roya, even Saliva. Like you we can't really mention we have Casemiro, but did he have as good a season as Gabrielle sort of like for like no we didn't hope did he? Laman's now fairness, he was pretty good, but he's not as good. He hasn't Raya made some really good saves and he's seen that against West Ham. In other way, so it wasn't just if Rice went on and I know he's that type of that type of player, but he didn't score, he didn't get the same assists, and I think as Bruno and no, he just he's a good player, he's probably been a seven out of ten every game, maybe to say, but but he look at the they have had slumps, big slumps in the middle of the season. Yeah, I mean like he's he's a part of that as well.

SPEAKER_02 17:54

Look, I know what you're saying, Sean, but put it this way, right? Arsenal play as the team and he played the same way no matter what eleven he pick, right? Now he'd be amiss with him if he was just said the rangers for five games, but you'd slot somebody in and he'd probably still play the same.

SPEAKER_01 18:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:08

Take Brown around the team and he's missing, he'd probably be ten now, not too much.

SPEAKER_01 18:14

That's a great way of putting it. Do you know what I mean? It's a perfect way of putting it.

SPEAKER_02 18:16

So so so that's the difference. For Man United and a poor team, take him out and they're really poor, but Arsenal can still start to fit somebody in with the team they have, the squad gets in. Get the same results, okay. And that's it. No, so that's why Brunei would think should really be getting it. So I mean it because you get more impact on the whole team in general.

SPEAKER_01 18:32

No, that's that's well put, yeah. Yeah, that's what I wanted to say. So we'll see how they get on now. Oh clear. When we give out our own awards, we'll be picking player of the year as well, so see if we all agree. Uh two more bits and pieces. The next one's sort of a bit serious. Uh Bournemouth right back. Oh Junius. Jimenez. We kind of have to touch on it because it's obviously a football podcast, but sort of been caught texting someone under the edge. And the Bournemouth came out with a statement and he said he knows all about it, and they've sort of taken me out of the panel now, so we'll see what happens with it. It's just shocking. In a little guilty buttons, it looks like that way. Yeah, well, they wouldn't come out with a statement like that.

SPEAKER_02 19:19

So look, I let the beat till beat that'll sort that out, don't remember it's shocking. You know what I mean? Yeah, for anybody to do it. It doesn't matter if that's professional footballer that's in the in the eye line of everybody and on the news and professional. For anybody to do is shocking. But so let the whoever has to be to be to start it out. Exactly. No, the police and let them do it. Oh, 100%.

SPEAKER_01 19:41

And if it if he's innocent, I'm saying this situation that people mightn't like this either, but it's controversial, I suppose. If he's innocent and nothing happened, and it could like God knows what could happen for him to be innocent, that's not nice either. That's not fair. No, you know. But by all means he probably is, but more than that.

SPEAKER_02 19:57

Well, look at innocent and proven guilty, and that's all you say. But but but but to be put out there in public, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 20:03

Just in general, I mean a situation like that, because it's that can destroy somebody. Yeah, of course. Nine times out of ten, they are guilty, right? That's that's just yeah, because I just want to throw it out. But if it is, he needs to f feel the full law. Yeah, caution. And that's just the way it is.

SPEAKER_02 20:20

Oh, yeah, for anybody that does it shocking in any day, any walk of life, it's it it's a shocking thing. That's it.

SPEAKER_01 20:26

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, and just like that, people are listening. I don't know if they ever know anybody that was in that situation, or just even have an inkling that it might be that and speak up and talk to someone about it, or yeah, ask our kids every now and then how they're getting on, like sort of a thing. Like just 100% have to be careful. It's not just a football and matter, like it's a it's a it's a life matter, yeah, it's a life-changing matter, like yeah, and it's a very, very serious matter.

SPEAKER_02 20:50

Yeah, so it goes on a lot, unfortunately. Anybody else?

SPEAKER_01 20:55

You hear horror stories, so yeah, you're right.

SPEAKER_02 20:57

Fair play to her to the young one for showing a mother and father or what happened, like not saying brilliant to happen, but brilliant that she had the courage to do it, because I'm sure she could have been threatened not to do you know, the usual monsters out there saying if you do this, you'll do this and I'll do that and all, and threaten this and threaten that. Yeah, so uh no fair play to have the courage. That's it, because we always say like when it comes to mental health and all, talk. Yeah, it's good to talk, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 21:23

Yeah, and we'll finish off on something that Sean hates probably just as much as Arsenal, um the Scottish League. The last game there was Saturday, so Celtic and Hearts are playing fixtures now then, right? Plenty of Celtic fans this and so ertic are playing Motherwell tomorrow and Hearts are playing Falkirk, is it? Yeah, yeah. So and then they're playing each other Saturday morning. Foot the league. I will say it is a bit more interesting because someone else in the mix then. Sorry. Yeah, yeah, you know the way that so I'm happy with that. But what what's it when's the last time? Some forty years ago or something. I think it was hard to know Aberdeen probably would have worn for eggs and I think is that 40 years ago? Oh I was just guessing. Yeah, it was he was 25 at your night, wasn't he? Yeah. He's 14 gone. 14 gone. Yeah. It would have been yeah, Jesus, thank you. That's a 40 year one.

SPEAKER_02 22:16

You don't feel it going in. You know what I mean? Like, well, I don't used to haven't reached it yet. That's a good guess, wasn't it? Yeah, it wasn't like all the the predictions, right? You got football this week, but the fairness I watched the game at Rangers today, it was too really played well. That was a good game. It was a throw back to an old Ranger Celtic game, wasn't it? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:36

Fairness, like well for people that are gonna look at it on Saturday morning, showing the Celtic and Hearts the last game of the season when I take it legally.

SPEAKER_02 22:45

But five games ago it was it was Rangers and Hearts. Yeah. I had to slip up now a little bit now, and Celtic are just sneaking in a little bit of the back now, and then it's coming out I hope now we like it all comes down now to Saturday be right.

SPEAKER_01 22:57

But er, yeah, that's all to do. So before you go on to our fixtures, then I'll go over our predictions of what we got for the weekend just gone. So I lost one point on it. So I got eight points this week, you got nine. So we actually did alright between the two of us. John only got four, he's slacking, he thinks he's normal now. So we're gonna get it. His feet are up in the the zombie, I've got to say. But uh we might catch a though when we come to our predictions at the end of the season, because we're we're we got a couple of sort of things into us, didn't we? To say, uh why not the end of the season? When you look back at your predictions before the start of the season, give extra points. That's what we're gonna do. We're gonna pop a 20 for where we get to start if you get a prediction right in the cup, you get five points. Yeah, if you get a position right in the league, you'll get two. Stuff like that.

SPEAKER_02 23:51

Oh, we'll work out. You'll not be walking without on much, you know you can do it. They do this together. He can't be walking his out here and look at he picked them and he picked them and you picked them, and then if we give them then he wins in the end, yeah, but uh not that far ahead, then am I?

SPEAKER_01 24:08

No, well, I'm on 168 points. Sean, oh they know you're on 171, and Sean's on 187. So we've two games to go. So yeah, well, come here coming down to the wire. Yeah, so it'll be interesting.

SPEAKER_02 24:20

Yeah, very good. Yeah, oh fire wave in. Have you already? Well, look at we go like Brighton. I think we always thought that was gonna be a win. Like I think we all put that down to the win. I think Tick Uton might be put it down with both just put it down with 3-0, did you? But remember, I know I think I'll put it down by two. Yeah, but look, come here to score the goal in the eight to six minutes, or like either one year, but look, it was a great win. But look, wars are on the hull, isn't it? Wouldn't he think the next year? Yeah. Still get into potentially Champions League football, isn't it? Well, look at the seventh.

SPEAKER_01 24:53

Huge money for them.

SPEAKER_02 24:54

Look, even if they never even go into the Champions League, just say, because you'd think Barman probably would get there, or or or if the sixth buck goes to somebody like like if somebody drops down, like just say Astor Villa just say, or somebody or or or or Brentford even was a creep up, just say if they can. Um to go into the Europa League for the likes of Brighton and all like just to go into Europe itself is fucking is massive.

SPEAKER_01 25:13

Yeah, yeah, it's like a man that owns and fairness and he pump pumps the money in well, and he must be doing it well because he owns hearts as well.

SPEAKER_00 25:22

Tony Bloom. So he's a good, shrewd businessman, isn't he?

SPEAKER_02 25:27

Yeah, and I must love his football then, yeah. And it's costing him money and he's a proper owner then if he's doing that. Exactly. Like, because look where hearts had to come from. Yeah, and Brighton's still there. Yeah, yeah, very good. Fairness, and we didn't know he owned a hearts as well. And then look at Barmwood, we keep saying that we'd done what we said a few weeks ago, where I think where their predictions was for what what what the scores would have been like for getting up into the the sixth spot to say, But Jay's he's got a great win away to Fulham.

SPEAKER_01 25:53

Yeah, true. We I think we all thought to agree that they draw that game, but again, eh, one hill, like again. We said you know all the time about Fulham, isn't he? That's not one of these things that are hit and miss, isn't he? Yeah, like a weight in Bournemouth or brilliant.

SPEAKER_02 26:08

Looking at the what a great season, and look at he just got the goal because he said it and he's a good manager, and they're gonna find a heart to it's Banders United out of a 13 and you just say them, and like we could have managers we go for, just say, right, Barnwood will find a heart to replace him with them with it. Now they always seem to be able to do it, yeah. But he's a good manager, isn't he? Yeah, he is, yeah. With that team, what he lost at the start of the season, and for him to be still us talking about him getting probably sixth near the and going to the Champions League, whatever way the Europa League final could go with the will it and all, um it's a it's a great season, isn't it? Great season, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 26:45

After you sit up. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:47

Good to see them in Europe. Yeah, it really isn't fairness, yeah. And then look at Liverpool and Chelsea, but I think we we all thought Liverpool would have won that, but look at Liverpool, they're still playing not great at all, are they?

SPEAKER_01 26:58

I didn't see most of it, I saw like the end of the game. Whatever bits I did see, Chelsea seemed to have sort of a lot of the ball or so it was really like Liverpool kept giving the ball away, and the fans are getting really on their back. Yeah, Chelsea were going forward and like the decisions that the manager made were where it's like a slot when you took the um team lad off and for like your man Gakpo touched the ball ten times in the first hour. That's all he got, and then the young floor was got an assist, I think. What's the name again?

SPEAKER_00 27:25

Ingamoa.

SPEAKER_01 27:26

Yeah, he played reason reasonably well in a team that wasn't. They took him off, yeah. Left Gakpo and leading Crail Rapona.

SPEAKER_02 27:34

Yeah, they're not happy to build fans with Tell him it's been time to couple with them now. I don't know, I was like, What are you taking them off for?

SPEAKER_01 27:39

Arrest them for the Champions League final?

SPEAKER_02 27:41

No, no, that's what I'm saying, do you know?

SPEAKER_01 27:43

They're playing away to Villa Friday night. Yeah, so they need just to make sure he's still winning as well. Like you don't get caught by Barmwood.

SPEAKER_02 27:51

Yeah, it could come here, and that's the thing. If Villa do beat them, then it goes down to the last match. Yeah. I mean, like, and then like they could end up like still playing with something as well.

SPEAKER_01 28:01

Oh jeez. Good luck. Hope so you have a couple of goals just allowed and you hit the bar and whatnot, but I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 28:09

When you look at Barmouth, I know it's still like the same situation as like West Ham just saying and team just saying it could have been after last night. There's four points in it between um uh uh between Barmouth and then Astonville and Liverpool. But as you said, Astonville are playing Liverpool, so just sometimes drop points there, so it's a good opportunity for Barmount to um creep up a bit closer, but one game to go, and then you can have a one game to go.

SPEAKER_01 28:32

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's it, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:36

That's what we're talking about.

SPEAKER_01 28:40

And relegation, yeah, and all of Europe. We're the only team that sort of are just perus and trailer with nothing to play for.

SPEAKER_02 28:46

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And then you look at you see a good win. Brentford are a good side, and it was a good win they got actually beaten uh Brentford 3-0.

SPEAKER_01 28:57

Yeah, fair Brentford played well, I thought. Yeah, I thought they didn't it wasn't a 3-0 match. I didn't think. I thought they actually played well when they played all through a couple of weeks. So they had a chance. Like you said, created chances and they did play well. Well, look at players step up, don't they, at certain times of the season. And Docky was just sort of stepping up, hasn't he, the last two or three weeks. Three great goals you have to score. We'll get that. Let's keep them in the title race. And 100%, yes. And as much as you say all he does is that little stuttering inside, scoring three crackers to do it last couple of weeks. Iron Robin's left hand right. Iron Robin just used up no matter how much you keep him on his left foot, he's gonna cut in and bend it into the fucking far corner. Yeah, and he's not but he's he's left and right.

SPEAKER_02 29:43

Yeah, fairness sounded like fairness, like as you said, Connor, like without him now, like his goals now like he saved, and that one point he got like like last week, scored the two late goals, like definitely could be crucial, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 29:57

It wasn't a red car, but nowadays you don't know Bernardo Silva just elbowing Collins when you got you see that, did you? Yeah, calling shield in the mountain he's on the ground, he didn't like I know he's a narky little soul and sow anyway. Silver just fuck swung an elbow. I know it was only on the back of the leg. Yeah, you can't just elbow someone else. Well, it's fine. So I mean, but see that's what that's what they're in the letter of the law that they're gonna go with that. So that's what you need. It's like the letter of the law, they just just decide when to use it. That's the frustrating thing. Yeah, I'm gonna get into them as a now in the next couple of fixes.

SPEAKER_02 30:27

Yeah, but say if if if that was anywhere else in Europe, you get a red card. I told you it's because of the premiership and and the little bit more physicality go, don't you? In the premiership.

SPEAKER_00 30:37

Yeah, but it's like you said, the pick and shoes.

SPEAKER_02 30:39

Pick and pull it. That's so inconsistent. Pick and choose. And that's the thing. It suits some teams, as you said, do you want to do you want somebody else to win the league? Bruno got an elbow. Do you know what I mean? And did you do l do these real to say, uh me? You were saying one of the who was there on a while ago or something, or it might have been you kind of saying, like, Archer, every so often like they just throw somebody else in to win the league, and they throw somebody else in, and you give them certain decisions about the certain teams, but they get to the three points.

SPEAKER_01 31:05

What was his name again? That's Skew Damor, so would it be right? You're saying that the Premier League chief executive or something. So you want like every six years they'd love if like different teams want to just have us at the same team all the time, etc. blah blah blah.

SPEAKER_02 31:21

Yeah, and you win a ten years in a row, you win a ten years in a row, that's it's up to somebody else to feature, and that's it. So look at United's matches the next one, so we'd might as well get into like the bird and burden nil all draw against Sunderland. And Sunderland could easily won two or three-nil. Yeah. United was poor season. Yeah. So pure.

SPEAKER_01 31:42

I can't really touch on it too much. The only thing I'd say is if the players heard I shouldn't play with a club again ever. And like I said, your man should have been sent off our elbow and brown in the face. Martinez probably could have his help by punching your man. That sort of thing, right? If the board I'll look at and think, Jesus, if we get one or two injuries next year, I'll fucked. Then I don't them are definitely struggling like that. Like that team out there, I don't think would if you're playing a way to they'll just say you're nine of them playing. They wouldn't get a result. So that's one thing. Now, whether it was meant or not, um I don't think it was, but fellas at work where he said that that was done deliberately by Carrick. It could have been. I said it to you, so it could have been don't you send a message and send a message asking? I don't think he would he do it. Maybe he would, he's a smart guy. I mean he's a smart smart guy. Like he hasn't got all like you know where it's against him, but he has got some decisions right this year, and like we are in the Champions League as well, so he's got something right, you know. So maybe he did do it to look at what could I have to work with? Yeah, and some of them were deplorable.

SPEAKER_02 32:45

And you know what, even if he didn't do it, just say deliberately, it was a good thing that he did play the no matter what way you look at.

SPEAKER_01 32:52

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:54

It just proves to everybody else and the board that half of that time, like like definitely not good enough. Yeah, 100% not good enough, that you need to be they need a big overhaul to summon, you need at least at least five or six players. That's it.

SPEAKER_01 33:07

Well, you won't have enough money in this minute to fix everything, so but you'd have you need like they did last year, just chunk by chunk, season by season, and just keeping it up there.

SPEAKER_02 33:15

That's uh for power, other than Man United, we did skip by it.

SPEAKER_01 33:19

Yeah, there's no random. It's just the mentality players. They put eye on the World Cup like Sicunia and all maybe one the motivation is not the whole definitely the motivation, wasn't there? No, not just singling him out and just thinking of him as someone who played well recently. She may as well not be on the pitch. No, or Martinez, you're all crap barred paper, but you look quick when you came on in fairness, so yeah. He thought brought a bit of pace with buttons.

SPEAKER_02 33:42

The rest of them are useless, wouldn't he? Yeah, yeah. It's really like it's like if you were playing it and you were tenth, and there was really nothing to play for. Yeah. I mean, like playing with the positions, but they shouldn't get a chance and opportunity.

SPEAKER_01 33:54

A lot of them should exactly should have been like the pressure's off now in a way. Let's go on and express ourselves, enjoy ourselves. I might fall over the ball now, passing it, squaring it when you should be scoring shooting. Yeah, I don't know, like it's just the mentality is not there for it. So maybe Carrick did it, yeah. Maybe it was a great thing that he did. Maybe it was a master stroke, maybe I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 34:11

Well, it'll prove he needs three midfielders. So Catamero's going and and and Yogati's definitely going, and you left with Maine who just said there, because it proves that Mason Milton's on midfield and he never went midfield, so you definitely need to be a little bit more than a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 34:22

And mainly May was stick for that position for that uh position, but he's being pulled by that performance, being pulled left, right, and centre. Yeah. But Mason, he's not a midfielder, Mason Mount, so he can't blame him either. But even Mason Mount got the ball, he couldn't even stop to think pass it. No, that's what he's supposed to be a good footballer, but that's but that's besides the point. Like he was lost in there, so Maynel's trying to cover up. So I know it's like playing there with someone who's crap. You'd be pulled left right and you're not in any position, you know you are, and then when you're when you're having a bike game, lads, it's very hard to turn it around, isn't it?

SPEAKER_02 34:47

And he hasn't got the experience, especially in that position.

SPEAKER_01 34:49

You can't if you're a striker who's missing, missing, missing, then you get one goal, everyone forgets the ten misses. Yeah, you know, in the centre of midfield, it's very hard.

SPEAKER_02 34:56

Yeah, and do you know what he's on your young flip main now, and he hasn't got the experience to know how to exactly play the position yet. You know what I mean? Like, obviously, he's gonna learn as you go along, so like you can forgive him, you know what I mean? Like, for for for that, but like you can't forgive the team for the effort you were in, it was fucking useful.

SPEAKER_01 35:11

That was just an early open of everybody that midfield needs if it wasn't known before somehow we need the leading players, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:18

Yeah, and then look at Borney and Aston Villa, like I know Burney's not the play where but look here was two points well dropped from Aston Villa, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_01 35:25

Yeah, yeah, and even look it didn't deserve no Borney that's where like Arsenal should beat them, just say when they're playing the next, but Borney just played as if, like you said, they're relegated now, they've nothing to lose. And he's just played with a bit of freedom. And if you lost the body, not say they didn't care. Yeah, like at the end of it, they were trying to go and get the winner because if they would have lost, that doesn't make a difference. So that could be a tricky game for Arsenal. It's more trickier than what you would expect. Nobody knows a couple of points dropped by Villa.

SPEAKER_02 35:56

Well, look at Arsenal to be expected to beat them, and the longer it goes on without Arsenal need to score a goal in 15 minutes and then the game is over. Yeah. If you don't, then the the and the crowd get quiet. You get nervous. Yeah. Like two games to go and you're going for the league, you get nervous.

SPEAKER_01 36:09

They have nothing to play for, but in that match they can stop the team that playing, whether they're biased to them or not biased to them, or they'd like them or not. They can achieve something in that game. Making them drop points and losing the league. Imagine boring with a team at the Arsenal shit to back to. Yeah. You know, that's all that's right, it'd be saying to the players. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:26

And look at Camera, if you're a player yourself and the manager's already gone, just say alright, and then you know you're going down and you want to be a part of that club, you'd have to play for your position because there's going to be so many players getting let go out with that team and on, and new players coming to you. Don't want to be one of them. No. You want to put yourself in the shop window. That's what I mean. You want to get them do something.

SPEAKER_01 36:45

Fairness. No, yeah, I think points dropped for.

SPEAKER_02 36:47

And then look at Crystal Palace and everything. Um, two all drawing. We didn't see the game, but look, Khmer, it was still like Kammer, it's true that Crystal Palace can still take points off teams like. They'd take that to the last game of the season, wouldn't he?

SPEAKER_03 37:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:02

Yeah. Like if they wanted to stop Arsenal. Look at Kmer. Yeah, yeah, that's right, yeah. Yeah, they're playing what? Man C tomorrow, night. Tomorrow, yeah. Yeah, and at the Etihad. So you'd expect Man C, but like we said, you still have to score, and then if it goes to the world, and like if it did. Yeah, yeah, Etihad, I mean, geez.

SPEAKER_01 37:17

City still had to play Barmerton. That could be won, yeah. That could be the bag for Arsenal, yeah. The only thing with Palace is they're playing their cup final three days after the league finishes. So the league finishes on the Sunday and they're playing their conference cup, isn't it? Expect it, so they'd probably drop players, but Glasgow's last game at home and all of Palace and I don't know. Look at me. Still scored in goals. It's been a roundabout, isn't it?

SPEAKER_02 37:43

It'll go to the last game, and I doubt it could go to the last few minutes and then goal difference and then how do you know it's and then look at Nottingham Forest. Look at I know it was a one-all draw to say and they got a late goal to say Anderson, like good player, right? Um but they stead up themselves like like like lads, like they didn't have to rely on anybody, so obviously then it's between like obviously West Ham and Spurs, but like for the first season back in like there, like for for for not shame with a fourth season for to be down so low, like to be tilt they could have went out like of the league, had they been in Europe like last season, um they did well just keeping like the top top 12 season they had with the managers all and they own it and all of that. They did well themselves to stay up. That manager actually did well coming in and keeping in the finals. Newcastle at 13 and they only have about 40 um six points. That's poor, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 38:35

Yeah, that's a very bad season. For Newcastle. That's awful.

SPEAKER_02 38:39

You know what I mean? Like like they're only literally like if you look at now the like the the 37 you have a sports to say, right? And that's it. But then the next one up there is 43, 44, 46, 48. I mean they've only 46 points and they're in 14 position. That's a really, really bad season for them.

SPEAKER_01 38:57

Yeah, they could still take it out, it depends on the fixture, they can still finish 16th, isn't it?

SPEAKER_02 39:02

Yeah, they could drop down, you know, like yeah. And look, if you have a tr hopefully they'd have a tricky game this week because they're playing home to West Ham, West Ham with the points. Yeah, so yeah, so realistically, like, and then we go to West Ham and Arsenal, just say right, and then we we go forced win, right?

SPEAKER_01 39:21

And then we shall have his little rant. Yeah, right, right. I thought the game itself was I actually enjoyed it, right? Yeah, the quality of it was bad. Well, sort of understanding myself because you're probably both a bit nervous, right? And the tension in the side of them and all something sort of wrong. I sort of laugh at myself, like this is mad, like you can just it's not how to if these kind of friendly and the summer arsenal probably wiped the floor with them. But just the the circumstances and stuff, every little sort of detail is like this is like you give a bad pass.

SPEAKER_02 39:49

Oh no, you're pointing the nails and all that.

SPEAKER_01 39:51

Yeah, yeah, man. Ben Ben White gets injured and Rice goes right back, and West Hang over the countenance and this, that, and the other, and then Arsenal scoring you're like, ah, that's it. And then Fernandez has a great chance. But for we said a couple of weeks ago, he's a player that anybody in the middle of the case.

SPEAKER_02 40:07

Yeah, even though he missed it, like you give right into like it was a good say if it was a good say if then obviously to controversial go. No, come here, you carry on, Connor. You're talking about us.

SPEAKER_01 40:17

But see, I think they're all fells, right? Mm-hmm. But they have to be all given as fells. And that's where the problem comes in. When you look at Instagram, I'd say they're all fells, like 70% of it is fells, 30% is the goalkeeper needs to be stronger. Like, and the only example I'll give there's plenty on Instagram and YouTube and look through them all, is fourth game this season, United by and there gets his hand held up, he's sort of getting backed into by Celeba and Califyori knocks it in the back of the net, they look around and say, No, that's fine. The goalkeeper needs to be stronger, right?

SPEAKER_02 40:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:57

So that's alright in August goalkeeper needs to be stronger. And I'd say at the time we watched it, obviously can't remember, but we would have been like, oh that's a foul, but at the same time, he needs to be stronger. Yeah, we did it in this boxing sort of a thing, right? Yeah. So then how come in May, when the goalkeeper comes out and the man has an arm across his chest, which again is probably a foul, he should be stronger to deal with it. But then they go and look at it for four minutes and 17 different angles and replays, and give that as a foul. Like if it has to be they're they're right, they're both fells and they're not. But there's four or six points, by the way, when they look at it. But Arsenal have gotten that he probably shouldn't have been. Yeah, and like others got any else, like, but it's just it's the consistency. It's a consistency, it's not against Arsenal, like it could be anyone.

SPEAKER_02 41:39

Yeah, yeah, and then even up to that, Connor. Like, I know you're saying I agree with you. Definitely was dragging out someone, Gabrielle was dragging out somebody, Trossard was dragging out somebody, they could have been four fouls in there, they could have had a panel West Ham. Um, you go back to the goalkeepers and just say, right, so um, it's just too inconsistent, and as you said, there's four four minutes and seven in seconds to get a decision right. So are you just looking at it in some ways to to make sure that it's to just to make sure that you disallow the goal and give a free kick?

SPEAKER_01 42:10

It feels like that. It feels like that. You know what I mean? Football is all about goals, and like you said, they're this, that, and the other, but it's like they've come up with any excuse or any angle to disallow it, isn't it? Yeah, like you can't celebrate any goal nowadays. I'd say there was Festham fans and that's age nearly crying when Wilson scored to the day. But then it's like VAR checking you like, oh no, what about the VAR? Yeah, the VAR check. You know what they were saying about the Declan Rice was bear hooking him. Oh, that fell happened for us. I fucking didn't. They all happened simultaneously. Yeah, it doesn't matter. They all happened. And who and Frostard, he was I don't know how this was not said. Someone said it. See, he looked at the left. He wasn't even he wasn't even looking at the ball, he was grabbing the player who was the arm of the hit. Is it Rodrigo up and I don't know what his name is? He was bear hooking him as well. But he was he his back was to the ball and he's grabbing him like that. So how is he how is that man supposed to jump properly? And then his arm sort of obviously threw the mix, bounced up, and went across the goalkeeper and and it's a fellow. What about the man angering him? Like I guess fucking blind. Yeah, I'm not I'm I'm not have a pain any bollocks for it. I'm gonna punch this mic off the fucking thing. I was gone mad, not because it was an artist technically a little bit, but no, no, no, honestly, it's the inconsistency.

SPEAKER_02 43:17

It's too inconsistent, they need to get to get stuff happens.

SPEAKER_01 43:20

Doing that all year, and it as the the examples are unbelievable. I'm sure if if an Arsenal fan, I'm sure will be out there who'll go through all the footage from the whole season and come up with a compilation of things United got that they shouldn't have and all that type of stuff, but there's too much for Arsenal. Like even Martin Keel, someone said that thing um about the Declan Rice and all of that. I'm sure that they're doing that all season. Exactly. But that's that's the point. He is a tick anyway. That's the point. That's the point. Yeah, how empty the the handballs, the Declan Rice handball against Chelsea, yeah. His arm went up like that. He wasn't even looking at the fucking ball. Yeah, he was standing at a handball.

SPEAKER_02 43:56

Yeah, but pulling at the starting and pulling and dragging and bullying and Putting ten ten of the players in the in the six yard box now and just pulling and dragging it and it's hitting somebody going in and all but the the dealing well is it's still consistent, isn't it? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 44:10

Back back in the day, like if it was a corner in there, you were on the keeper. We'd be looking at the ball. Most sometimes that's the only player from a corner that wouldn't be looking at the ball. There was four arsenal players not looking at the ball there. And they were just this is not like basketball.

SPEAKER_02 44:24

Yeah. Like a rolling rumble and nothing. This is ridiculous.

SPEAKER_01 44:27

It's horrible football. And this is the potential winners of the league. That's my problem. That's where and a good example of the league is terrible because their top team gets wins like that. And I don't mind this end of the season scrabbing out a win. That's basically this is the end of the season. You don't know in the fourth game of the season. Yeah, but you know what?

SPEAKER_02 44:45

The only people, realistically, you just say when people win the league, just say, When Man City were playing a couple of years ago in Liverpool, you bokeh were over 100 points, you played great football both in two great teams, and whoever would have won the league that year deserved to win in Liverpool could have won it. It could have been topsy two of you over a couple of points to say. Yet they said fair playthrough, you won the league, playing great football, and you did it. This year, the only people that will be happy that Arsenal will win the league this year is Arsenal fans, because everybody else, everybody I thought that everybody else says they're so boring to watch Arsenal and they're so just bullying people in the box and corners, they're winning from set pieces, that it's a bad no, they take it to win the league, can't be wrong, but it's a poor to watch, anyway. If they win the league and won as league champions, you'll say they're very poor league champions as the way they play football.

SPEAKER_01 45:29

It's such an awesome decision, like a huge not just for the like the league. Obviously, everything was going on about Arsenal, and the fourth thing is look at everything that's happened throughout the season. Probably said it's the US Day show on they this could knock West Ham back for five or six years. If like that could be a point that could keep them up this year, and they'd say in the Premier League. But it could be a point they could get relegated by on goal it was to say get relegated to the championship, and they could be in the championship for years, lose loads of money. Everything could all depend. Obviously, they've been poor throughout the season, that's why they're in this decision. Yeah, of course. That decision there was like they could send them down and just completely change the club forever.

SPEAKER_02 46:07

Yeah, like in a negative way. They're a big club. If they do go down West Ham, like I mean, they're the second biggest supported like a stadium, like you've like in there's only always a couple of hundred modern sports to say, but the 62,500 or something, like the 52,000 season ticket holders. No, like so to have that stadium and the championship, like it's got to be cruel, isn't it? The opposite as well.

SPEAKER_01 46:29

Like if Arsenal win this league, that could set down now next couple of years as well, which would maybe could be fair enough in a way. Yeah, well, they're slating them there, but that win that could they attract players and put you more money and how good how bad that can you really get?

SPEAKER_02 46:43

Like, if they're gonna keep keep saying that type of football, we still say uh it's an opportunity as well now where United fans for United to get the recruitment right this year and challenge that because if that's what it's going to be like next year, just say no matter who they get in and they're just gonna play the same, the teams will be will play that and and play and beat them. Yeah, you know what to beat them now. Like if they're gonna just win the league, take them leading three kicks and go on. They can't put that there.

SPEAKER_01 47:06

PJMOL, whatever they call them, they need to look at this now and say this can't happen again. The whole world is slightless. Yeah, they can't no, it's fucking horrendous. Really, really obvious and badly.

SPEAKER_02 47:17

Yeah, and then look at we've gone to Leeds, should have won last night at all. Yeah, uh like they obviously were losing and then and then they got the equaliser, and then the man took some self things, he was a brilliant self to say, but in general, I thought the second half when sport when they when Leeds scored, Sports got really nervous and he like he really sat back in the like it was all Leeds. Yeah, I thought Leeds really like of anything. I thought you would have got something at the game when we put that down as one-on- I thought the way they're playing like that, you would have got something, but I definitely thought like they could have won it. That was he took two good saves actually in the fourth half, but that's saving the second half. Yeah, somebody in it because it was that power as well, wasn't it? Directly, yeah, that's it. And then yeah, it was, yeah. Yeah, but there it was as well. There were no West Ham um uh um lost through the day, so that kept plays in the league to say, but that point where they kept them in it and anyway to say so you in fairly give them uh uh Merrill like they set up Blades themselves on the band. But they're not a bad side.

SPEAKER_00 48:14

No, they're a good team, eh?

SPEAKER_01 48:16

So I I struggled with this in this week, the result of the weekend. I was a Balmert to win one nil away and keep that sort of run going against Fulham. Um like I was sort of thinking City 3-0 against Brentford, but I just sort of edged it for Barnett because again he must be unbeaten in God knows how many matches now. They're putting themselves in a great position to go into Europe. Probably Balmer, yeah, I'd have to go with it. There's no one else really yeah, well, it went to Fulham or C could give the City but yeah, Arsenal's result is massive, but it's just the way it happened. I couldn't give it to you.

SPEAKER_02 48:53

No, and then it could delay it's got a good hammer ball for West Ham. You could have getting delayed, couldn't you? Like deserved the win leads, like like still under pressure, but not much pressure. They could have died down and just went on the holidays and nothing cared, but you showed aggression on this.

SPEAKER_01 49:07

You've given it to leads.

SPEAKER_02 49:08

No, I said you could have. Jesus.

SPEAKER_01 49:12

No, I said you could have. And Lee Coffee, nothing on a guy who doesn't around my area as well.

SPEAKER_02 49:17

No, you could have gave the leads thinking that um you could have they could have not showed up last night about the sports and not cared. Do you know what I mean? Like, because they were already they were already safe. But the fact that they went there and they gave Sports a good game and should have beat them. Um you played really well, and I got to show you like that win on the holidays. They fucking put up the sports. I was always delighted to see because they even put it on the Instagram thing. I said, like, I think it might be one odd, but I hope I'm wrong, I hope Leeds win. Yeah, like no, they're looking to see Leeds getting the win last night, but knock sports are raising. Yeah, fucking sports got them on you. This weekend in uh Everton. So look at to win it a weekend would be would be bombing to wait to find the sake. It puts them up to six, and that's brilliant, you know what I mean? Yeah, definitely. Yeah, so give Leeds a little shout out in fans. They could have they could have just went on the holidays last time and did nothing but.

SPEAKER_01 50:08

That's one of my points about United. Anyway, not getting back into that. No, no, we'll we'll move on and uh we'll uh we'll finish off with our L questions again that Sean Garenso. So what we got a couple there, don't we? Yeah, um I got a load of questions in about would you take this player or that player now? So I'm gonna call them all out because a couple of there must have been the same question last three or four different times, you know, from from um different accounts, you know. So um I'll start I might actually start with this because I might then I might just say put them in a row if that makes sense. So I'll start with this one first. Um what do we make of the Real Madrid dressing room one restaurant Pat?

SPEAKER_02 50:46

Yeah, you know he's yeah, like it's you know, it's because of not winning anything. Yeah. Just two seasons now without winning anything, that's everything, is it?

SPEAKER_01 50:52

Er, yeah, I don't think doing that last year. No, so just. For anybody who doesn't know, yeah. Yeah, supposedly it all started after they got knocked out of the Champions League. And because Alverdi is the captain, and your man Florentino Perez sort of gets over him and he likes him. Er he barged down into the dressing room and told him to wait outside. And he went in and he run a random hook, or all the other players and told him they can all leave. Basically, to get out of the club if they wanted. Belling him a battery, he didn't care. Like you know what I mean. None of them were bigger than Real Madrid. So because that happened, then obviously they were annoyed. But supposedly Chew me then when he's as you should do when you're in training, he tackles hard and tackling everybody hard, and Valverdi wasn't taking it and he didn't like it, and he got into a bit of a scuffle. I suppose he had a row and he obviously must have hit him and taped him. Yeah, but he came out, Valverdi came out and said that he he fell and hit his head off the table, and that's how he got his concussion and bollocks basically.

SPEAKER_02 51:53

Yeah, put it on her up, yeah. It's not a number, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 51:57

That all gets recorded. So then the other one then is with Mbappe and all the fans signed a petition to get him gone. Yes, they what was it? Oh 40 odd million. 47 million fans signed a petition out. So that's his day's a number. Yeah, it just goes. The club is I don't know. I don't say it's a disaster because it's Real Madrid, but but look what happens when the dressing room unrest. Yeah, look what happened to United. People I'd say Real Madrid fans are there be laughing at United throughout the years. How would you gone from this to that? It could happen to them now. I don't think they're they still have to think a hierarchy in there, so they wouldn't let it get that bad. I don't think somehow they come up and pull it out of the bag. But look what happens when there's dressing room unrest with all that talent you have anything. It doesn't matter how more or less because your point earlier with the league being a bit poorer. I don't think Real Madrid ever finished seventh. No, I think there are six good team setups. Yeah, a great point to get that. They could finish if they finish third or fourth, that's bad enough.

SPEAKER_02 52:49

Yeah, then they finish outside the Sammy's Lake, yeah, so that'd be a disaster for them. And I still wonder look at Shadow Yolands, they got rid of, but you probably got rid of rid of him too quick. Like they could have hung on them a little bit longer. So then they got the new man now. They looking to hint now that Joseph Rainier couldn't come back out at 13 years away from them.

unknown 53:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 53:07

So I mean, so it goes to show it there's really unrest there, isn't it? That's like a desperate move, but I can see it, I can I can understand the reason, the reason for it. And you know what? Raymond, if all the clubs in the world right, when Raymond is not winning anything, they bleeding ships loads of players out, don't they? They change it up rapid, don't they? Yeah, they just bombard, they put throw millions and millions out, don't you say right gone, gone, gone, and we just get all these in.

SPEAKER_01 53:28

Yeah, well you've that's it. They could be 14 points behind Barcelona there, which is terrible for them, like having lost the league, like yeah, it's mad.

SPEAKER_02 53:36

Yeah, but look, I hope some of the players will wrestle now. He seems to be linked to United very often, and you won't know what they believe. Like, there's they like him there as well, they don't you know he's age and all, but we'll look at him now, you know. Someone has to go though. You can't have the same like someone will have to go.

SPEAKER_01 53:54

No, um you will go because you didn't win that. No, that's what they like. Valverdi and Modes sign Rodri. Yeah, one of them has to go like that. Yeah, and he'd the one who punt through the punch. Yeah, you know, so that's that we can we can we can get him out. I'd love to have talking to some United fans. I know some people absolutely brilliant. Some people might think like we talk over air sometimes. That's fine, that's our problem if you just have that say. Look, it's that's everything. I mean that's good, that's great. But there's some people out there, oh I don't want him, he's a troublemaker. That's why I was talking to people in when I was out. Oh, he's a troublemaker, we don't want him in there. So that's the exact reason why we need to have him in there. Yeah, but that's chewed, you know. Yeah, he's not knocking any player out, but he's he's tackling hard and training, and he's the he's a he's a really good centre midfielder. Yeah, what to get your head out? That's where the standards have dropped, you know. Big physical presence that would replace Casemira, he wins like 95% of his head as well on his shoulders. So we don't miss that. We missed it the weekend with Casemiro somewhere.

SPEAKER_02 54:50

Wait, if Roy Kane got a few red cards, you say would you turn and says I don't want him, he's a troublemaker, wouldn't you? I show you it's exactly what you do want in the middle of the pack, somebody that's aggressive and win the ball back for you. And if it goes overboard a few times because he's gone in a bit too hard, well, you have to take that. That's the standards we want. We want winners on the team.

SPEAKER_01 55:06

Yeah. That's good. So uh right, next one I'm gonna go into the players now. Um Trevor wrote into us. Uh he said, Would you buy Wellbeck as a second striker? One year left at Bryden, I think we'd definitely get him.

SPEAKER_00 55:20

Yeah, I think I said that a couple of weeks ago, did I?

SPEAKER_01 55:22

I think I would take him, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 55:26

Just think to it, he's about 45, is he? Wellbeck, I think he is 35. Yeah. But he plays like a 32-year-old, just there, right? He doesn't play like somebody that's 35 and slouches around, you know, but someone can't at 35 or something like that. He's the type of player that looks after himself really well. He'd come back, yeah. Yeah, let the combat.

SPEAKER_00 55:45

He'd love to come back to it.

SPEAKER_01 55:48

He doesn't have to play every game. She played 20 25 matches. But optional options.

SPEAKER_02 55:52

He came from the academy and and I'm sure he'd look to finish his career with United. Yeah, she scored about 40 goals tonight, didn't he? Yeah. Two two years like you've played.

SPEAKER_01 56:00

One of the players I just think at the time I was I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 56:02

I always remember that Mystic Trail Madrid. Remember the shipped neighbor that one wasn't good enough at the time.

SPEAKER_01 56:06

But he went on, and fairness look where he is now. We want him back. Put the head down and really good example of being a professional.

SPEAKER_02 56:13

Look, he went to Arsenal, didn't you? After that, and then you went to Brighton, he played up Preston as well. He played a couple of times, didn't he? Like Watford probably as well.

SPEAKER_01 56:19

And but look, I mean his career went up and down, and he came back in his geez, Brighton be sat the same goal, I think. Yeah, yeah. You know, so much praise, I think, in Brighton. So, yeah, we would take him. Um another account dropped into us as well, uh, to say that was just not again, some of these accounts don't have any names on them or just numbers and that. So um it's the same question, so yeah. There's a couple of them now. Um so the next one is there you go. This is from James, um, Craig was another one, and then another one with a couple of three, four, seven, I think whatever it is. Some just don't have just random username, uh user names, you know. Uh would you take Mbappé at Man United? No. No, no. He's a proper troublesmaker.

SPEAKER_02 57:03

Yeah, because he thinks he's bigger than any club he's with. Yeah, really. You kind of said the good point there a while ago when we were talking like about um PSG got rid of him to say and and he played his contract down then, and then what you were saying, like they went on to come to the Champions League, and then they're in another Champions League, and you look at it like he going on holidays with his scare and come back an hour before the match, then and and if you're taking four guys and they're getting knocked out of the Champions League. No wonder they're signing fucking 50 million people want to get rid of him. Look at if you if he if he was if he was if he was as good outside the fucking pitch as he is on the pitch, you take him, but you'd be paying 200 million for him, you know what I mean. Because I mean his stats show that he's a good footballer, yeah. Do you know what I mean? Like, but he's just too much, he's too much baggage for him. I'd piss the whole dressing room off. Yeah, and you think baggage is bad with bleeding rashwood, and there's only ratswood, he's ten times worse. Say clearly.

SPEAKER_01 57:56

You wouldn't throw it that's unrealistic. I wouldn't take him for free. I wouldn't take him for the destroying everything, yeah. Yeah, when he plays it'd be good, but he's such a premium.

SPEAKER_02 58:04

Oh ward to know what's going on in the club. That's the thing, man.

SPEAKER_01 58:06

Is he good if he would think he is? He's 27, he hasn't won a Valentine. Not yet. I mean, it looks like he's not gone. I think his international thing has him a bit higher, doesn't it? The fact that he's scored top score at a couple of World Cups and whatnot. Like that sort of score in the final. I didn't even actually really know he was like that only a couple of years ago, maybe. Yeah, so I mean, I obviously troubled maybe horse as the money's came in and yeah, well, how would you know? Yeah, hanging around with Vinicius and Bellingham and all maybe doesn't help like but it's is um it's it's terms of talent, he's probably one of the best in the world, like again, it's the on the pitch and off the pitch. It's two different things. Anyone's listening as kids go on, we need to get them with our head in the game. Yeah, on the pitch and off the pitch. Yes, when you start easy for me to say, I know when all the money starts rolling in, you know, you're a millionaire when you're 19 and 18.

SPEAKER_02 58:53

I get that, but you need to keep your feet in the ground, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 58:55

If you want the ground best footballer like Ronaldo and Messi, you do think money is their motivation, but it isn't in a way, but it's gonna come. I always use them too because they're so far ahead. And then you drop down with Lewandowski. Did you just see the shape as he's the next person on the list? See the shape of that man. Yeah, and he's just no trouble, no nothing. He's bought on half a war saw in the in the apartments, and he's just he's a businessman and other things now. His wife is really, really popular over in Poland too. She's a fitness thing, she has food brands and all. That's just do all that if you want. Yeah, but you know, and and that's positive. It's not negative, you know the way he's not seen drunk or you know the way and then he's doing the business still on the pitch. Look, look, maybe that's if you can get the boat.

SPEAKER_02 59:36

And you know, it as a professional footballer, really, and if you do make it, it's a short-lived career. If you just say only you are 22 and you make up to 25. So you can be you could be a good footballer at 20, like mine now, and you could return to 45. Just like 15 years, you have to work really hard, and you said on the football pitch and off the football pitch. After that, you do not say what you like and become a blackguard and all, but after that, when you're 35, then you're more mature than and you have all the millions and millions, you'll you'll be a nice person about it and all. But for the time you're a professional footballer, it has to be 24 hours a day. A blackguard.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:13

There you go, be a writer. But you know what I mean. But um yeah, so next one is would you sign Robert Lewandowski? This is from Thomas, it's from um uh Kubek, you'll be at um would you sign Robert Lewandowski for for a for a season? Sorry.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:27

No, no, I wouldn't because you know why as much as like there's probably not much of difference in the age, but like with him and um Wellbeck 38, I think. Yeah, with the day you go just three years of difference, just say he doesn't work hard enough.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:40

And he's probably gonna cost you an extra 200 grand if we didn't have the Wellbeck might be like this would be my problem. I'd love to have him, I'd love to see him play. Would you? Yeah, but I don't think it'd be hard enough. The money you have to pay him, and he's not gonna sit on the bench every week. He's only gonna be the main man. I think Wellbeck can only do the perfect sign in front of someone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Although I'd would you obviously Harry Kane and Messenger, but if you're not it'd be realistic, like yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:03

Yeah, if you're going to an experienced player now, you should know you used to probably know more about like because you should probably watch more about the football in Europe.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:11

Do you know what I mean? Like so you might know there's there's probably players getting the players, there's probably players and they're and they're not getting games for teams that are probably good players that could do, but if you're going as you said as experienced players, I think Wellbeck would be you'd bring him back more than you'd be.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:27

It's sort of you get 11 Aussie for a year on Wellbeck's wage. You're not gone. 2500. Yeah, you wouldn't get that, you know. But um anyway, um there is another question here, I won't keep yeah, just time-wise here. So uh what do we think of the FA Youth Cup being played in the smaller stadiums, the women's stadium, isn't it? Yeah, between Manchester City and Manchester United, uh, instead of the empty hat. That was emphasized empty hat. That's Craig. Craig C. So it's there's like a seed that's like a draw. So whoever gets to the final, they're the home team. Like, do you know what I mean? Like there's like a set of this side of the draw would be a home, and then this side of the draw, you'd be obviously played away in the final. So it's never going to be at all craft. So it should have been at the end he had. But the reason is because he said that they would have a stand-up. You know, they're complaining at all teasing they don't have stand up. What they're afraid of is that they'll give out the tickets and United'll have 20,000 supporters on it, and the city will have two or three thousand. Because yeah, you would call a couple years ago at all traffic, there were 67,000 fans on it. Like, this is the biggest thing in new football. Yeah, it's U Triple. Oh yeah. Yeah, like and then the Champions League final for them. Like so your man uh JJ Gabriel, his dad's Irish actually, as well, by the way. Yeah, he's come on, Ireland. There's a thing came out saying his that his father had an interview saying that he brought him to the FAU Cup a couple of years ago with Garnacho and all in it in May now, and he said, Oh, that'll be me one day. Playing that final here at Old Trafford or in some sort of big stadium. Now we're not playing in a stadium with 6,000 people in it. He'll get his throat with a knife.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:15

But it's ridiculous. Connor's right, they should be playing as a prestige uh cup between like no matter who would have been in the like we don't know who the who the great teams are, like as as a guard said they used to say, right, look, it could be Brandford or two best. But just say, right, um it should be graced on the big field. Yeah. It's as simple as that. Like, why have it in a stadium that holds six or seven thousand when you probably get 40,000 at the match? Do you know what I mean? Like it it they should have just paid at the head. Like for money reasons and all I'm not that they didn't, but for people to go and watch it.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:51

For people to be able to go and watch her. United fans only have like 970 tickets or something. So it's only impossible to get a ticket.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:58

Well you where you would have sold 40,000, yeah. They're afraid that United showed them up um with the with the landslide though, anyway.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:12

And the United had like 10,000 fans there, and the city had like 2,000 or something, and the Yeti had so probably don't want to repeat that. Don't just show them up again. Anyway, the couple of the other quite um questions there, I'll keep them for next week. That's alright. They're they're all relative, you know, what wasn't based off this week. So I'll uh text you all back anyway and let you know, even though you'll you'll probably listen to this, but just to just let you know. Um I like to interact with you, so yeah, thanks for thanks for writing them in. Yeah, throwing anymore as well, or any feedback or what you think of via any opinions on VIR or the Arsenal situation or you disagree with from this podcast? Yeah. And I know during the summer we'll do a lot of transfers and whatnot, but if there's anything you want us to do during the summer that might be different, by all means throw in any ideas or suggestions or any other sports you are interested in, let us let us know and we'll Yeah, we'll have a cow or like the women's football. League of Ireland. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh well yeah, that's it, isn't it? Episode number 48. Yeah. So we'll be back next week and it's the f s sort of last one before the league finishes up for the more information next week, and that's it.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:28

And seems to be looking brighter again in the league for certain teams and other teams, and we'll see who wins the cup then as well. Yeah, Saturday. So you'll be seeing your loggers in the final then of um the championship playoff. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, hopefully Bruno gets the breaks the assist record.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:42

Casero's last match and all, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:45

Yeah. We'll uh we'll leave it at that then and then we'll be back then next week and be sweet to everybody then.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:52

That's great. Thanks very much. Thanks very much again for listening.