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Episode 39 - Bruno, Pep, VAR Drama

• Vincent, Sean, Conor • Season 1 • Episode 39

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This week we took a look at the managerial situation in the footballing world which saw Xabi Alonso appointed Chelsea manager, Mourinho return to Real Madrid, Carrick all but given the Man United job, and the news of Pep Guardiola leaving Man City. We also looked back on gameweek 37 which saw more VAR controversy. We recorded this before the Bournemouth v Man City game so a congratulations to Arsenal on clinching the Premier League title.

SPEAKER_01

Welcome back everyone, episode 49, Lads on the Sideline Podcast. It's me, Connor, as always shine by Shalom, your brother. Welcome back everyone. Oh yes, welcome back everybody. Thanks for listening, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Alright, Chair.

SPEAKER_01

Nearly nearly over now the lake, huh?

SPEAKER_00

Last weekend coming up. It's hard to believe this whole season and you had to go in so fast, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01

It's that flying in. Yeah, that's how they fly in. So they're flying in, but then it feels like age you go since Amaran was in charge of United and all, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. Looking back at that, they did fly in, I think. But we the international breaks that all the extra breaks that United have had, thinking back to that them moments, that was that was hard, goat wrenching in a way. But overall I think it's fluent. But yeah, it was a it feels like last season almost that Amar was there, you know.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and then you know what you look if you look really, and we'd only one game a week, which made things easier all around for Carigan on when he came in when he got the system right to say to suit the players. We thought it was going to be a long, dragged-out season, didn't we? With the start of Amron and all just the way things were going, the system, just the way the club was just gone, all the shy going on behind the scenes and all just say right. And then um just passed by the whole season, yeah. For some reason, I thought it was going to be dragged out one game left.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. The last couple of weeks I thought they're just I think it's been easy, but we've been able to just sit back and relax and sort of know that they've been that they're gonna finish in the Champions League as nobody's gonna be good enough to catch up. I'm glad Carrick is more or less announced. Like, you know, that's uh glad well, we're not gonna get into I'm not anyway, about we've said our piece on the managers, like, but just it's I'm glad it's out there. That's what I said last week. It's just that's who it is now. Let's get let's get on board and let's go. Not like going through the summer. I could I I think this is gonna go into the World Cup and everything. Yeah, after the World Cup, and I think what you can't at least we know now this is the situation for at least the next two years. Hopefully, yeah, hopefully. Hopefully, because yeah, because if it's not two years, then gonna get sacked, which means things are going wrong. So we can't. I I I know it wasn't, I'm not I'm he's not my forced choice. If I could pick, although I'm gonna stick with that, but I'm not gonna be armor on armor now dare me. Yeah, carrick out from minute one. That's not fair. I think he deserves a chance after getting us into the Champions League. Yeah. Do I think he has the no? But listen, look straight things happen, he wouldn't know if they back him properly, is what I'd say. He needs that. That's what that's like an inexperienced manager needs top players, but not pre-modelist. And there's plenty of them out there you can pick from he likes Manderson watching him against United, who's a really, really good footballer, isn't he? I never I've watched him a few times, but he's not much left to play for him, really. But he played very, very well. Could be a little glimpse of what we could get, but like you just don't know. It could be could you could be priced out of it, I think. But with the likes of Pepley even now, because the thing is at the minute, I was thinking it could anybody can come in from it's only us and City in from as far as I know as far as I'm reading, but but Pep Leaving now that that and the all the changes and the the question marks over Man City with our charges and all does he really want to come to, but can you not afford him? This is remains to be said. What I'm trying to say is players like him, he doesn't look like a troublemaker, doesn't look like no, he's kind of you know, no way he's not that type, he's not in a bat bay or he's not like I know it's a different position, I get that, but there's plenty of players out there that you can bring into the the the squad that can be professionals, you know. You don't hear nothing never help the manager if that makes sense.

SPEAKER_00

He's only 23, isn't he? And he's the type of player that he definitely won't hear nothing too bad about him off the pitch. He looks as if he has his head screwed on, right? Yeah, he's one of them, and you know what? You look at players through the generations and you look at him and he's a united player, isn't he? It's destined like for him to come to Old Trafford and all and do well and be one of the great midfielders like Kane and Robinson all. It's just it's just something about his order or something about him that he he just seems to be a man united player in him. Now whether you choose my unit or not is a different thing, yeah, but like it can't come down to money and all of that because he's gonna get well paid no matter who he goes for. It's just up to himself, his own decision. But now last week could have been a dress rehearsal for him to be playing every week like an old Trafford uh atmosphere, full stadium, um Casimir and really getting brought to tears with the the welcome he got and the the the the overs he got at the end for Ollie for his four years. How could he not be there now and just saying, Jesse could be a part of all this? Yeah, fucking known as what's good. If it's a hundred million, the billionaires just give it take her out of pocket, give the money and go around with it. That's the point. It's not United at the end of the day. Don't be scrimping and don't be doing what an army doing, waiting until the players decides as they are go to United and then they can negotiate because then they think they can get them are a lower price because he wants to come. No, put the bid in for nothing to first force and make their mind up. Yeah, do fast for the change, they're too slow when they do deals, isn't he? They're very frustrating when they come to deals, isn't he?

SPEAKER_01

That's why I think it'll be frustrating this year, because do you buy him before the World Cup, like I said last week? And he goes out and snaps his leg and he's out injured for a year, or do you wait till after the World Cup? Like they are like I don't know. They are in a bit of a tricky situation as any else like a fairness. Like try their best to really get the deal done before they go, but not sign the papers. I mean, this is what they're doing.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but you know what?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, because if he does get injured, then you're yeah, you're 100 million in the hole.

SPEAKER_00

Well, look at I'm sure Dana would cover all that now too. Insurance and all of it that happens on, but but I don't think him as a player, like you two are footballers and he's playing football, obviously not at that level, and he wouldn't be signed to big contracts just there, right? But if he goes to the World Cup then and then England do well and he gets a long way in the World Cup, do you think he wants his future decided only after the World Cup when the league might start back three weeks after? No, I'm sure you've got him as a footballer would want his situation sorted out before the World Cup.

SPEAKER_01

So he can just concentrate 100% on the World Cup.

SPEAKER_00

And come back to his club. If he doesn't, then he'll be over it. Surely the God he won't want that dragged out. He'll want to know exactly where he's coming back to, where he's living, and everything, the whole lot, and then just grammar's football. Concentrating the World Cup and not have this in the back of his mind. That's what I would think.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, correctly. Well, look at we'd have the whole summer to talk about transfers and yeah, well, we'll see it every time. He might want to come in, he might want this. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00

You can want to go to the empty hatch, you never know.

SPEAKER_01

Canal. Well we might as well continue on with news. Charles mentioned Cardick and Guardiola, so there's plenty of managerial now, so I'm just gonna name half the managers, and we can go away them one by one. So, like I said, Cardick, it's gonna be supposedly it's not signed yet, but it's all but done. Two years plus one year is what they're saying. Um said, like there's not there's not really a sort of solution that's like alright, this is 100% gonna work for us. Even if you got Enrique in, it's not guaranteed to work a hundred percent. So we sort of it is what it is, to get aboard 50-50, like you know. Yeah, you have to get on board.

SPEAKER_00

It's not like the football, it's not like a footballer, so it's not like you know you want Anderson to go out and get him. There's no manager out there that that is out there that stands out because Enrique obviously is sure he'll just stay with PhD, and then there's no one else because Mourinho's going to just say you might have that as your nose. Yeah, he's the next one, yeah. Yeah, you know what I mean? So, like, so realistically, what you do, like like partly the approaching though. Yeah, yeah, you know, United is what he says, yeah. Yeah, but he's just projected, so what? That's all you want, yeah. That's it. So look, you carry on McConnell with the nails. Yeah, well, look, you mentioned there, Mourinho's next, he's gone back to Real Madrid, and again, I think it's a good move. Yeah, yeah. I said, You were sending a few weeks ago, didn't you get going backwards? But look, he's more experienced and all like he needs a lot more jobs. And look, he's he do you know what Madrid needs from you like him from Mbappy and all like it's like as if there's player player power there now. Oh, there is the with the players who say, especially with Mbappy, and anybody just say like he's a big character in the marine that'll sort there now. He'd take no message. Yeah, I think so.

SPEAKER_01

I think like oh there's negatives to it as well, as you were saying last week, but I think overall it's a good move. Look at the game he had, they're not really you know what I mean? Not much to pick from. We said a probably many podcasts ago now that there's gonna be so many p uh managers available. There's not really, is there? The World Cup's messing everything up, and I didn't I don't think I thought that through as I was saying it. Yeah. There's no like like you said, like if you say United and Real Madrid and even Chelsea just say the top top clubs, you need a top manager, don't you? Well, Pep's available now, isn't he? Well yeah, well, what does he do? He's next on the list. Sorry, yeah. Guardiola is ten years at Man City, and I think I can speak on every not just United fan, but every fan of the league and say thank God he's leaving. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 20 trophies. 20 trophies, yeah. Backed by about two billion pounds worth of God knows where the money came from, but still had to do the job. Yeah, still have to manage. Where do he goes next? Where do you think? What is he doing next, Nick? I don't know. Like he's not gonna go back to Barcelona, they just won the league, and your man Hansy Flick is a good coach contract in.

SPEAKER_00

He'll be there.

SPEAKER_01

I can't see obviously. Who's managing Spain? Well see, I don't even know if he'd go there because he's from like Barcelona and all, they don't really catalog you. Like it's sort of a they don't really like to be Spanish, like sort of forced to play by Spain because it's not a country, but like if they have that choice, they just don't associate with being Spanish, like political in that sense. Like, probably no problem because you go to like Brazil, have Angelotti, don't they? Yeah, he signed the contract as well.

SPEAKER_00

Argentina, I don't know where he goes. Yeah, it's hard to go from day-to-day football, isn't it? Like um, I think you'll take a break.

SPEAKER_01

I think he might take it in a year's time, he might be a little bit. Or is it in case he knows what's coming down the line in a couple of weeks we'll see? Yeah, that's it. Maybe they briefed him and said, Look, this is what's happening, and maybe he has no plan. And he's like, No, I just could get out of here. I was just reading there. Apparently, he it he's he rang he got in a night at night time call with the players last night, was it? When was that announced? Last night. Last night that he he had like a like a teams call with them all and apologised because they all found out round him. He wanted to tell them himself. Of course, and he's fuming at the club for a leaking that off. Hopefully, this is the the beginning of the end, but I mean anyway.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, well it could be a league of night with Ferguson.

SPEAKER_01

Usually it could be, yeah. Yeah, uh two ball managers then again, Premier League slots. He came out and said that he's he'll be there now next season. 100%.

SPEAKER_00

Oh like the champagne out. Thank God for that. Yes, they might talk about Ericton's slot.

SPEAKER_01

He came out and said the other day that he knows if they get a good transfer window this year, he can turn it around. What? Not that he spent like enough money last year. What are you talking about? I don't know. Except a small country last season spent 450 million last year. Yeah. Is that not enough? Oh I'm delighted. It could be eaten rewards there, but I don't think so. Yeah, and then the other manager that they probably could have been linked with then was obviously Xavi Alonso. And he's gone to Chelsea on a four-year contract. So again, it's another young manager though, isn't it? Like I thought Mourinho would have been alright for Chelsea. I'd say Arsenal fans are rubbing their hands together now a little bit. We did know how the season was gonna go. But what I'm trying to say is Man City look like they're on the ropes a little bit. Yeah. Now, unless they just pump another billion into it in the summer, they could do that. I'd say they will spend for them because they're gonna have to replace Rodriga and the likes. Yeah. Slot this time in Liverpool, they fell off ropes this year, but look they're Chelsea, you go knows what's gonna happen. So Arsenal is the most advanced club in terms of progression that all of us would be like to say, yeah. He is, they are, and they probably are gonna win the league. So that could be them for the next two or three years, that's what I'd be thinking. Yeah, they're the team to chase. Yeah, well, here's a chance for us to get back into the top four. It's like cementer kind of in a place, sorry, in the top four. You look at um just say Arsenal, and you sort of think to yourself, who's gonna be their nearest rival thing next season? And give sense nobody. They should pump another two or three hundred million into their squads because they're playing cheer football and that they win the league. Imagine you bring in more talent. But you can't talk the players. That's that's okay.

SPEAKER_00

Do you know what Arsenal will do next year? You'll win the league and the Champions League. If you really want there's a simple solution, but then just to bring in two nine foot nine foot footballers that'll just win every corner and score goals. And then they just win every you'd score a goal from every corner and you'll win everything by corners. They get the biggest count of goals from corners, so the stats will come out, so there'll be a new one for goals from corners, and they'll probably score 56 goals next to the corners. Fucking waste us. Right, we'll move on. Had your say? Yeah, it is. I was looking at them last night and I got another goal at McConnell. My god, I watched the game brutal. We'll get into that now in a few minutes.

SPEAKER_01

He's gonna have his R say. Man City done in an FA Cup treble. The women won the FA Cup, they won the FAU Cup, and then they won the FBA Cup the other day against Chelsea. Um they're having like a parade all three teams now, and I think it actually might be tomorrow in Manchester. Um they deserve to win the FBU Cup. In fairness, yeah. Um the women deserved to win their LA Cup as well, in fairness, but they have been sort of one of the best teams around for a couple of years. And then the match against Chelsea the other day, I think it was the worst L Cup final I've ever watched. It didn't matter. It was Tantum, was it in like the FA Trophy or whatever it is the game that they play for uh League One and the games? Yeah, there was more at that final. I know Portsmouth are in, I can't say I don't remember who they were playing, but there's more at that final than the professional game.

SPEAKER_00

And I wouldn't be surprised, like I know when I watched the game and the Chelsea fans were on were on the screen and the fi in the fire stand. Do you know what I mean? Like, and I wouldn't be surprised if they put the Chelsea fans over there because they filled that part up. Because if the Man City fans were over that side, us watching on the telly, didn't mean loads of empty seats. Yeah, I guarantee it it would have been.

SPEAKER_01

There was 90,000 people Wembley Holds, and there's only 83,000 at it. So I should go final. That has to be a cello. It should be a cello. What do you think we're going to the match now in August? It's a friendly between United and the Leeds at Crow Park, and that's 82,000 and that's solo. Solo friendly in the summer. So look at it. It was a second trophy for them, and that's all they'll care about. Oh, exactly, exactly. He hasn't had a great season, but he's had to win in two trophies. So we'd still win the league as well.

SPEAKER_00

For anybody at your time by him, you have to give it to him. Uh like he was up there with Alex Ferguson, and that's it. Like Alex Ferguson. Brilliant manager. That's in the league since we watched it. No, he's second to Ferguson, and he'd be do you know what it'd be very hard to replace and then delay it's and I hope it's to fucking demise the city because they don't yeah where they are because of all the money them give the billions burning from all them ghost accounts and all. So they deserve it. Like hopefully, yeah. It runs around on them. But anyway, well, they do say that, don't you go around them?

SPEAKER_01

So that's it. Two more team pieces in the news, Sean. You could say oh, this one, you hate it. Uh you have to mention Celtic win the league. That was good. Um I think after Arsenal, Sean hates the Scottish League. That was the one thing that actually got me on board a little bit with it, was the hearts would win it, and then they fuck it up. So I'm done with it, I'm not watching that. Yeah, that was mad, didn't it? Scenes after a bit mad, but we looked at it on Saturday, then.

SPEAKER_00

It's good to tell you, it was a good game, wasn't it? Ah, yeah, you played it. Come here, they won the last couple of games, Celtic, like in the tough games to win them in the league. So really, like, do you did well. Like, in fans, just five five in a row. And like it just could have been the year really that people would have thought that would have stopped her off with the forty nearly forty years or whatever since 1985, whatever it was. But look at Celtic wanted to win it, so they're just carrying that one on, didn't they? Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01

So and then last bit of team news, then it was Johnny Broke, then you saw it on your phone there, Southampton. So I don't know if you want to fire away with it.

SPEAKER_00

No, just so you look come here, I was only looking at my phone there before we start. I know the years were a bit of news, and um South Hanton are expelled from the playoff, championship playoff to get into the premiership. Um they got they got thrown out now when it's middles for against Hull Saturday. Now they can appeal it, but I don't think it's gonna do any good because they've already deducted them four points from the championship next year already, too. So it was a big, big mistake, wasn't it? Big error. Spying on them and uh recording the training or recording the training from some of you like the camera behind us today. Well, you know, it's had to cost them a lot a lot of money.

SPEAKER_01

A lot of money that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but it was a rule, it happened with Leeds, I think, there uh about ten years ago when he was spying or something or whatever, or whatever. Now we're not even sure, it just only comes back to my mind now whether somebody was either spying on Leeds or whether Leeds are spying on something else. But they brought a new rule out there. If you're caught, this could be the circumstances they did in one of the biggest games they could have a deal in and then he got caught. That's stupid. Yeah, I actually didn't even know that was a rule, to be honest with you.

SPEAKER_01

Now that they're saying it, that's ridiculous. It could cost them a hundred like uh potentially a hundred million.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but so what Connor said even last week. He says when you look, he said, Why didn't you just go back and look at the 46 games? Yeah, exactly. I don't know. Watch all the videos, yeah. Come here. But look at if you like I always say if you do something wrong and you get caught, you doesn't have to get caught, it's as simple as that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, very true, yeah. Yeah, full yeah, the full repercussions for being very true, yeah. Uh then last bit of news, two bits of news on players. Uh one sort of united the lictas have to get in an operation on his back. Hasn't played since November, I think it is, so I think he's done. Yeah, he'll never play the top level ever again. Can't be relying on players like that. That's a good thing, I think, because now we need to go and get us in the half. 100%. See you later. Yeah, we'll hope he's alright and he gets back playing in the championship or something for Southampton, maybe.

SPEAKER_00

I'll go back to Holland where the leg is not like wouldn't be as tough. You know what I mean? Like he could play out there with no legs and all, you know, them legs out there, like so. Jesus. No, you're not saying it just not as tough as the premiership, and if he has a back problem, it's just not going to sit down.

SPEAKER_01

I will on the series now, it's unfortunate because he is a good player, I think.

SPEAKER_00

He's a great player. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

When he when he if he's fully fit, he starts. Yeah, and you know what? That's our best centre half, I think, but Nexon Martinez is out. He's probably never playing properly again, and they need to think about this and replace him. Look, that's the way it is.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, look, he before he got into it, he was our best play he's probably our best player, uh, best defender, definitely. Like so it is, and he's only young as well, isn't he? Yeah, no, it's a shame for him, it's a shame.

SPEAKER_01

I know we are slagging him there, but it's it's look at commercial frustrating as well, because we you know what it could be a simple thing they could just they could get right to, you know what I mean? Like it could be you just does win it, but your back, it's it's just maybe maybe the details we have not really know, but I just think operation in your back, like it's it could be just T-hole, it could be but it's not great. Any operation isn't great. Everybody listening here has probably had a problem with the back at some stage or not. Yeah. Like if I mean if I've ever had psychiatric, I've I've had I'd rather be in work for free than go and then be like sitting at home. It's horrendous stuff for this. And look, I can only imagine.

SPEAKER_00

And I think you said, and I think the fact that he's only getting the done now and he's injured probably for the last six or seven months, um it's it can't be just a simple key hold through you then and he's back because you could have done that seven months ago, six months ago. So it's more it's it's more it's more um it's worse than what we probably did what we expect. And we offended anybody we decided even our ex play football well. I'm sorry about that.

SPEAKER_01

I know. Uh but look, we wish him the best anyway.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, but look for his age, you know, like a good footballer court, you hope he goes back.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, because I'm just thinking about United as well. He's like that now. Martinez, he's always um injured or suspended or so. It's not reliable, it's not a good thing. No, like so we need to toxin the hat. Yeah, do we have enough money in the budget? I think because we need to you know it's hard. We you can't buy in every position. Well, maybe they can, but you can't buy I just invest in class. Not that they live up to that that promise, but you can't go and spend 200 million in a centre field, which is what you need to do. Buy another centre forward, buy a winger, buy two fullbacks and centre half. No, no, no, like if you could do that, you'd be spending half, and you can't do that. I hope you can, but they'd like reasonable.

SPEAKER_00

You should be spending 300 million. Yeah, if you could spend 250 million last year with no Champions League or no Europe, they can spend 300 million this year getting into the Champions League.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and a few sales.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, because you really, really need to strengthen that team for two games a week.

SPEAKER_01

The problem is though, they probably have over 100 million to pay out and deals that they're paying per year, you know.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but there's ways of getting money into the club with sponsors and all. There's billionaires, come on, yeah, yeah. Put the hand in the pocket.

SPEAKER_01

But yeah, but yeah, but you need a top center. Put the hand in the pocket. We'll do that, I mean we'll have a chat with the answers. And then uh last bit of news came out last night was the the sort of a debate on the Biz the Brazil squad, whether Neymar was going to be named in it or whether he wasn't gonna be named in it. So he named him in the Brazil squad. So he's going to the World Cup, even though he hasn't really played much football this year. Do you name him in the squad over Gio Pedro? No, it wasn't out for Chelsea. So Giao Pedro's like all for the World Cup. That's what Neymar is like. What age is Joe Pedro? Sorry. Oh, I'd say he's probably 24, would you be? Yeah, he'll have another one in him, yeah. That happened to Cunha, didn't it, four years ago? Yeah. He was 23, I think he was, and he was it was a video I'm money seeing today of him crying when he was left out of the thing. But now he's obviously I know it, and he's playing a lot better. He's a bet bigger, better name, and he's one of the worst players in the team sheet, I'm assuming, you know. So maybe Joe Pedro. I don't think Joe Pedro's a good player, I just I'm not convinced by him to lead the line with Chelsea. You still have to do it. Yeah, he's played more more. I don't know. Is it just me or is it moments of brilliance then, you know? I don't know. Yeah, I thought it would have been one of them where like if you had just say Vinicius he'd be your left winger, Rafinha'd be your right winger, and then between Cunha and Joe Pedro as your striker, you'd sort of chop a change or Tiago from Brentford. Yeah. The fact that he's bringing him Neymar hasn't played really at all. Just I I I would understand if he brought him for his experience with Trio Pedro. He did win the World Club Cup with Chelsea and all, and this, that, and the other. So I don't know, I just thought it was a bit strange. Like, do you know what I mean? Like he put Neymar not into the category.

SPEAKER_00

Sorry to interrupt you, but I don't know. Tony Four. Tony Four, is he? Yeah. See a lot of experience still there, isn't it? He's unsure. Is he even playing anywhere? Like who's who's he's team? Is he over Saudi Arabia or is it? Is he back playing in Brazil? But you know what? It could be a surprise. You have to give it to Angelotti in some way around the way he's at he's obviously had to be in watching him. Some he's actually watching for him and feeding the back information. You don't just pick him on the spore of the moment. So we'll obviously watch him thinking he's good enough. They're not going to bring some of you to woke up that they think he's just going to be a passenger. So like don't be surprised if he goes and has a great Woke Cup.

SPEAKER_01

This World Cup now will have the last time you'll ever see them at a World Cup. Yeah. Jesse'll be there, Ronaldo will be there. Neymar now. So Aldrich is there, or Casamira if you want to add them into the group, they definitely won't be there. There's a few there's loads of missing, probably, but they're the last era of the top footballers. They won't be there the next World Cup. I'd be surprised if Ronaldo was, but he can't, can he?

SPEAKER_02

This is the sixth World Cup in the club saying she wouldn't put a pass any of them, which is fairness.

SPEAKER_01

You know, it's just the physical end of an era a little bit, but I don't know, maybe I'm just looking to look forward to it.

SPEAKER_00

It is, but it's nice to look forward to and watch them all. Because like you know, like for Darry Era just say, like when it was years ago, like when it was Jagamaradon and all and Platine and Joe stopped playing on like it sort of changed football and world cups and teams and all, but other than it's come along then and it's just new era, new players, and we just had to hope it was as exciting as it always is the World Cup.

SPEAKER_01

I'm watching Ronaldo probably 22 or 23 years playing. I remember watching that game. Yeah, whole life.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, like really, like so realistic, as you say. Like, look, it's nice to look forward to starting about the 11th of um, the 11th of June. Yeah, 11 of June.

SPEAKER_01

We might have an old World Cup preview before then. Yeah. See how we get on there. We give our little predictions on that as well. Yeah, but you know, normally have a thing to paper, don't you? Like it's sort of the route to the final. So we'll all have our own and see how how we get on.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that'll be good. Ah look, it's the World Cup is great, isn't it? Great competition to go forward too.

SPEAKER_01

Well, you think you have the old results there in the weekend? There's two matches on now at the minute, so our predictions, our last predictions will go up now this weekend. Yeah. With Montprider, Saturday before Sunday's game, so they'll have the updated tables. So at the minute it's me and your bulk of four points so far, and Sean has two. So it's on the game till tonight.

SPEAKER_00

Well, like for all a lot of the teams like they were trying to get into the European spots, but they also had to sip them a bit, didn't they? You know what I mean? Like but look at Aston Villa, like great win, just secured that Champions League spot, like which um I didn't think they would they would have scored four goals against Liverpool, but it doesn't surprise you, doesn't it? Liverpool, I suppose, is playing. But four to a great move for Aston Pilla.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it deserved it. I thought I thought for like maybe 15 minutes in the fourth half Liverpool played alright. When they had the ball, but never really sort of looked like scored too much. It looked as if they were in the game and it was 50-50, but then his villa sort of just throwing around.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, they had a lot of balls. Watkins had a good game, hadn't he? And like they played really well. Liverpool hit the post of Alan Gackham as the leading centre, but and then we grant it then like after that, like certain players weren't happy, should he went like with the results, you know what I mean? Like I think you might be sent to the Bellishan later on, I don't know. Which one is it? Um later on. Yeah, so then look at that was a great win, and then look at Brentford and Crystal Palace like like it's a great driver, Crystal Palace, thinking like that like Brentford could could have done with the extra two points, couldn't he? Like with the spottering in the league now and all and it was two points dropped for them. Yeah, they could be late, didn't he? Crystal palace. Yeah, actually Brentford scored the the equality in the 88th minute, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. Of a troll in a long throw. Yeah. For God's sake, they got a man who was higher or whatever his name is scored from it. It's got to show you a palace, isn't it? Like, even now when Arsenal played in the weekend, they're sort of just free, isn't it? Yeah, even Villa against Liverpool, people are saying you might rest players for the Europa League final, but Palace could just go out the opposite, all guns blaze and get a good result and build momentum into the final. Yeah, that's a good result. That's what Villa did we were saying that they go surprise to seeing everyone playing. McGuinn, Watkins, all these players were playing.

SPEAKER_00

Well, do you know why do you do you need that win to see them to gain? Yeah, I suppose a little bit of motivation there.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but the fans, as you said, you played well. But they're going into that Robert League final now with at their pump in Liverpool. Yeah, right. But that's that could happen at Palace. Yeah, it's obviously a lesser standard in a way, but still it doesn't matter. Imagine they beat Arsenal and then they went on to beat it, and that's Glassers' last two games.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Look, come here, if Man City are playing tonight, and if Man City beat Bob to say Barman to Sarah, and it's going out to the last game of the season, Chris Arsenal have to win. I think it's an eight eleven now if it is again. So if like they'll have to win away to Crystal Palace, because I can see um Man City putting all their effort in as well. Like, I know they have a tough game to Sarah. But um Yeah, it's filler. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

But like if you if they win now tonight, they'll go ahead and go all different anyway, I think. Yeah, you will. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So that's what I'm saying. So like it could get down to and and I guarantee Crystal Palace will give uh Arsenal a harder game than Borne did. Yeah, absolutely. You know what I mean? So then look at Everton and Sunderland, like Sunderland's a great win for Sunderland, and we don't know where that came from. I don't know. 3 1 away to Everton. No, no, no. It was a great win.

SPEAKER_01

Like you said, everything got Europe and could be pushing up, and then that's a massive blow for them, wasn't it? Yeah, definitely. Especially after watching Sunderland the week before. They were alright, like, but they've been saying it for the last god knows how long, they're just playing as if they're on holidays already, but you need to be enjoying it.

SPEAKER_00

If they won the other day, like like everything to say, because we would obviously thought they would have won and what what you had at staking on, um, they'd have been pushed up to 52 points, like they would have been like eight. Yeah, it's mad, isn't it? Yeah. But I mean like well in the mix for for for for for the European spots. Now they still are a little bit, but it was about as open and there was no harm to Sunderland, but it's a great move for Sunderland.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, well, it just means you have to go away to sports out the weekend and actually try and get something. Yeah, definitely. Still a bit to play for, yeah. Yeah, for some teams.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, like this like all them games where there's nothing like there's only a couple of teams in the league, like the relegated teams obviously say, then there's obviously West Ham and Sports still fighting for relegation, and then the top couple of teams that are already in the Champions League, they'll say and and and just say for winning the league, there's only basically a couple of teams in the middle of play for nothing. Really, nothing like it's good. There's a lot of stake the weekend. And then Leeds, great win now, they left the late 90th minute. But look, it was another three points, another great win for Leeds. One shot, that's all it takes. Look, about just Rupert Brighton. He did well in the mix as well for the Europe.

SPEAKER_01

Brighton sort of they played well. Again, looking at it, he played well, but I never really thought he'd score. I don't know why he'd had a couple of chances and he went sort of close, but Leeds just sort of side to side pass a lot, wasn't it? He defended well and obviously Calvert Leon, there was a terrible mistake from himant on Hecke trying to play back to the keyboard, and Calvert Leon just got in around the keeper and scored, yeah. Look, it's a good end to the season for Leeds, wasn't it? Fairness at home, getting the way into keep the mind-wise then. They were expecting to get them points at all.

SPEAKER_00

No 47 points, which that's unbelievable. They got more points than the United Did last year. Yeah. Look, we're talking about Everton slipping up, and Fulham slipped up as well. Like I there's all to come up now in a second, and you're saying like they slipped up. I said there's only two points behind all of them. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Well they could be a team that you look, they could be looking at themselves actually to try and sneak into seven or eight or something.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, get a little bit of recruitment right from them, and yeah, definitely like, yeah. Yeah. So um and then by United winning 3-2, like, but looking now, no, there's nothing I'm taking all that. Um Ting uh Fernandes or his assist and all, he could have got five assists, like if people would have scored a goal, but like I suppose the biggest talking point it should have been a handball, shouldn't it?

SPEAKER_01

Like talking about opinions here, I think, if some of the show, but yeah, I thought it was a handball. I thought it was a blatant handball. I thought I just nearly caught it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so the dog I thought you only got only got away with that in Crow Park. Oh, I thought it was GAA match. I thought it was a correct decision.

SPEAKER_01

My force thought was like that straight away handball. But when you you were the first person to say to me, no, I don't think so. Well a few people have said that to me since as well. That he's there's like a hit off his hip force as a big thing. Well, because the hit the defender, he whatever he done, like he hit a force, hit off it came out, it came out in quick, you think about it. Where is he supposed to put his hand? Up above his head, as if he's lying back, like it hit his hit the defender, struck the ball, hit off Abema's leg and hit his hand. Where is he sort of supposed to sort of see that's put his arm? See, that's to get me. His arm's in a natural position. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

See, that's where the confusion is, yeah. Right? Because if that's outside the box, like there's no problem just say right, right, you give a free kick, or you don't give a free kick. The fact that led to a goal, isn't that the confusion? Like, if that was anywhere else in Europe, it's a blatant handball, and a handball to lead to a goal is is is is that's it.

SPEAKER_01

It's against you I'd still be pissed off but if you actually break it down, it's alright, you know. But I don't know where you won the post arm. That's where the extra confusion comes in as well. Because I said it it didn't directly lead to a goal. Because he shot, hit off one defender. Well, you had to shot straight from it, yeah. Yeah, it's back off the other defender's head, then fell the key on you, and then he scored. They were saying it didn't lead directly to a goal. So that's where the rep Reeve was saying it's accidental and all this sort of stuff.

SPEAKER_00

So look, it's still confusing because didn't it happen a couple of years ago when the United were playing Middlesbrough? And your man hit up in the and Middlesbrough scored a goal late on, and your man's hand was up there, you know, ballot answering and hit his hand, and he got an assist with his hand, and he's still out a goal as well.

SPEAKER_01

If your arm's up like that, fair enough, or yeah, but but I don't know what he said what's he supposed to do. Has there been a weekend go by where we haven't questioned some sort of VAR decision? No. The Arsenal match, but I can't remember the last weekend where it's just been squeaky clean and it's crazy, nothing has happened. You're not gonna get every week, but definitely not. But it is, it's it's we suck now. I like their big decisions as now. Yeah, but see, this is the thing, like it's not as if it's it. Yeah, that wasn't really a big decision in the other two. Yeah, yeah. I thought it was a big decision because he overturned it. He stuck with his own field decision. That's what I was talking about as well. Yeah, I know because it's fine, it'd be saying, Oh, it's just because it's for United. Like it was not much at stake, really, like you know.

SPEAKER_00

No, but you know what, you're right, Sean. Because I always say as well, even when if you have the balls to stick with their own decision, right around like like digging over it. Yeah, the referees at the end of the day and they can make mistakes to say, but you don't always have to go along. Like if you make a decision, you make the decision. If you can if you want to stick with stick with it, happy with it. I'm happy with it, yeah. But it's nowhere I'm happy. I was nowhere as happy about the game, and it'll be only time to be a few minutes ago. Obviously, Elliot Anderson had a great game. Did I got his two assists, and I hope it's a showpiece, and I hope all them uh United owners and all on the board that we're looking at saying, But if he's the player, we need to do that.

SPEAKER_01

That's an audition, he's done very well. Somebody else should be it's United or Arsenal could actually suit us well. Gibbs White's another one that could be as well. He's a dame, he's a very good player.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, had a really good game, yeah, in fairness to him. But um look, you know, look at a good win, like not a lot of stake to say what we always had to see them win in like last game, Casimir's last game. Um we got all good sending off and all but and and I like to hear what you said, I like what you said.

SPEAKER_01

This speech on the pitch was obviously he's a bit emotional, I don't know what to say, but afterwards when he had a bit of a it's like a voiceover on on his United website, yeah, yeah. He's like saying you don't something you don't wear the jersey, you carry it. So it was hopefully that's sets in with people's brains because that's what you do. It's the first person I've heard that said that. His family and all have gotten into it, man. His wife and all is crying, and his kids and all that he must have been really sort of into it. Yeah. Probably didn't get this in Madrid at all. He's trying to know from the fans. He he obviously came away with a lot more silverware than Madrid, right? But um killed a human being at the end of the day, didn't win a car and a couple right in Madrid, though. No, so there you go. He has to have a yeah, that listen he'd be missed, obviously, but it's time to go. Yeah, time to go. But another thing about that match as well, couldn't you got another goal? That's controversial. Um Bauman got a goal. That takes three strikers to be bought. Yeah, finally, finally got a shot on target. Yeah, I know um took them all to double figures for the season. And you know 41 goals, yeah. I don't know when he says between them, but that's a big difference, no.

SPEAKER_00

Right, and I'll add to that then as well, right? And it's not to do with goals to say Le Mans had a great game as well, and he saved the night a couple of times when it could have been gives away Gonzalez. I don't know who was going through when he saved it. Yeah, it was and um um he saved a couple of them and he's like proven that he was a really really sensitive boy, wasn't he? He was a great boy this year.

SPEAKER_01

Could have been we'll give our player this season next next week at the week, whatever we're gonna know, but he's definitely up there.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, big time.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, like, but look at what happens ten wins out of 15.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, look as I said, and you look at no matter what happens when he has to job and onto that, you can't argue with his um with his results. No, no, you just can't. We'll just have to get on board right now. I'm not gonna talk negative against him now because it's if he's there, we'd be back in the minute. He's there, and that's it. Yeah, not going back then time for anybody else. So if he's there now, we'll just back him, and we hope that he gets backed. And that's exactly the best chance, as we'll say to me. He deserves that at least.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, very clear.

SPEAKER_00

Well, and then look at Newcastle got a good win now. I know it was a good win against West Ham, but West Ham were very poor, weren't they? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Newcastle were very good, but they were very poor. For such a couple of the West Ham dogs in the cracker, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But look, but for but look at for for um for such an important game, they just were very lackluster, wouldn't they? Really important game at the bottom of the league, like just trying to stay up and chases like I know and Newcastle Newcastle having him been playing great. They got a couple of results in the last couple of games. I thought we were going to put more of a never down last time.

SPEAKER_01

The two early goals killed them, didn't they? Yeah, go to and down and he changed the formation and all, and you had to go over it a bit, but look at Look, it's not over yet.

SPEAKER_00

We'll see what way like suppose only the point tonight. If they get a point tonight, it's over. I'll tell you what. And the only silver line there is if United was looking with a young Fernandez, it'll keep his price down if they're if you're buying him from a team that's playing it. That's why you want them to go. That's the only reason that'll be the only reason. Do you know what I mean because he's a good younger Fernandez?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yeah, he's gonna I it's she's about to ask that just to go off a bit of a tangent, which is Hague Bowl. No, if you could buy Jared Balmer 15, 16, yeah. Oh, 100%. 100% he's a good walker as well, eh? Right wing, left wing, and a front leg. Yeah, I think you might need a bit of a he can play him anywhere. I'd rather him instead of mount.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, without a doubt, he's gonna do it. Do you know what? Do you know what it'd give you it'd give you more balance to the team, no matter the way he'd won, because he's a good player, he puts good effort in, and it'd still united up there as a good as as a player that like I don't know how old he is now, like just say, but it's still united as a squad player, but you'd get plenty of games as well, like like he's a good player. Yeah, I mean if you come here whether he says at West Ham, I don't know, like we could see him play for Liverpool or something.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, not saying to replace Mo Salah but he could be a lot worse. Yeah, true, yeah. Could be like an outside point.

SPEAKER_00

And then look at Wolves and Fulham, like it was a bad result or Fulham as well, like there with it looking to another couple of points with the dragged him up into 50 odd points, I think. And like it would have made a bridge as well to try and get the championship was to draw away to Wolves as a bad result.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I think we said this in Fulham are the team. Remember we mentioned months ago where like the like the Brighton all draw points, you don't really hear much about it. Fulham are the most hot and cold team gone. Like they can beat like a beat team, yeah. No problem to them, and then just goals and bar and one I'll draw away to the wolves. One wasn't relegated. And they have something to play for in the sense. Why didn't these teams will never grow and get better, isn't it? Like when they're always like this. They never get relegated though. Well, that's a final.

SPEAKER_00

Well, you look at West Ham, they're now they struggled a bit last year, just saying sports really struggle last year and they're still not up yet now. Like you said, you need the point tonight. Just say, look, if they were to lose tonight against Chelsea, because Chelsea are still playing for Europe as well. Yeah. Just say, so if they were to lose tonight and it goes down to the last game, they'll be nervous, they're playing along to Everton and Everton. They're going for something. Like it's it's gonna be right down to the word if like if they want to get the job done tonight, sports, or they'll be or they'll be nervous. When you look at your talk with Fulham and all that, there's far four teams and forty-nine points, and the ladies were rounding on 47 underneath them. So like when realistically, like all them teams like Fullham and Brighton and all and Brentwood all dropping them points the weekend, like massive games on, wouldn't they? Yeah, yeah. Massive, so it's gonna be a it's gonna be a really good last Sunday. All the games are on different stations, like you have your flicker just switching around a whole lot of them, but it's it'd be a good Sunday, won't they?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, definitely, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And then um Arson last night, I've had me rant already, but brutal game, one-nil uh uh calling. We grew up well now, scored a goal to say, but to beat Bonnie 1-0 when when they could be they could lose the league on goal difference. I don't know, like to say the way it could go, like I thought they were gonna they could have Bornley with there to be beaten like 3-0 at least. You know what I mean? They ended up with one delighted with the three points. Any arsenal would like a three months but they deep down and say they were disappointed, they only scored one goal. Yeah. Or you would be if we united in the same situation, yeah. And the league was so close that it could come down to goal difference.

SPEAKER_01

We said it was the last week. Did you get a question last week of who the worst team are? Yeah, and we sort of nearly all said for only brutal. And that's it.

SPEAKER_00

To beat them 1-0 from a corner it could come down to goal difference. Like the C could win tonight and they'd be only two points behind, but they'd be one goal better off. And then it comes down to the last game that they could end up on boat, like one could draw just again, and and and then one could win and they could level on point, and it could come down to Burney, um Arsenal beating Burney by three goals or something. That's how that's how close it is now. If I'd have been an Arsenal, if I was an Arsenal fan now, I'd take the three points. Um, but if you asked me before the match last night, and you said, Would you take a one-nil win or Hunter Burney? I'd say no, he wasn't. Um I'd rather play the game out and hopefully he'd win three-nil.

SPEAKER_01

Something said to me today that, oh but it's the business end of the season, so we have to just get the three points over the line. He's been playing like this all year.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Like, and you're just looking at me, you're like, Well, they can't unite in the first game, and you can they've had one or two, I think did he beat Fulham 3-0 a couple of weeks ago? Yeah, that was one of the only ones I can sort of think. There might be one or two, they're not all one-nil wins and borrowing, but the majority is, and the majority of those set piece. Yeah, like this is the best team in England. So if anyone out there, again, it's been said to me as well, they're too negative towards the league and all, it's very interesting and all. But when you break it down, Arsenal are potentially the best team in their league, they're only one win away from it, depending on what goes on tonight, obviously. Yeah, and that's the best team we have. It's shy football. Yeah, think about it for the players they have. That's what the frustrating is. It's terrible, boring, horrible anti-football. Yeah, and that's all I'll say about it. See, and another another dodgy decision as well. That's a red card. That's a red card. Even though I didn't see it, even though the matches on that was a good one. He hit his calf. Yeah, sure he didn't mean to do it, but like people don't mean to do it a lot of things, like you know, but they've still done it. Yeah, you know, that could have no, that probably wouldn't have changed things born there crap, but it could have. Yeah, true, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

You know what I mean? So it's sure. Well, if you got the win and they take the win, take the win. Take the three points and go. But uh but but you can have your own opinion to say, obviously. But me as a Man United fan just say my night were in the same situation last night as Arsenal, I'd have been disappointed being Borne won him.

SPEAKER_01

Well, the for me, they're gonna get if they win it, they're gonna get another one as the worst champions I've ever seen. Yeah. But the way they're playing football compared versus the talent they have. Yeah, you know, it should be better. Oh, it's shocking. Yeah, yeah. I I'll give it to them defensively. They're solid defensively. Yeah, we keep saying it, you're right. I don't think they've conceded in the last five matches or something like that, or maybe one in the last five. Yeah, there's something ridiculous like that to say, right? So yeah, hardly hard by the dogs and we do keep saying that. You have a good defence, you go goalkeeper, yeah. It's just the slow on the ball, and like alright, just Gabby and the sleeper, supposedly they're creating chances and whatnot. But when it goes into right, I think he should be doing things a bit quicker. This is what's given out, like you said, this is what's given out with the team that got into the league, probably right.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

But they're disappointing when they get forward and the further forward you get. But like when they do get forward, you could realistically say that Eze Oligard and Sackard are sort of three only good attacking players.

SPEAKER_00

And Trossard is doing well for them. Yeah, but he's he's like no, he's Gibbs White is better than him by far. Like, so yeah, and uh Docker of Mancina, you're glad to have him like sprinting and running around like but Marinelli is in the same category, apparently he's correct. He's just the same, he's crazy.

SPEAKER_01

He only came out late last week, but Trossard didn't that's a that's Joker is a front, he has made a difference in him, I give him that. But him and Hamlet. He hasn't even been a war beater. Not gonna go. Even Saka, like you know how to defend against Saka if you're anyway a good player. Like I just think it's a tactics of all, I think it's a hard telling. Let's Saka off the loose. I know like he's not as good as Arsenal think he is, but he's still a good player. When's the last time he beat a football player beat a player? Yeah, like he used to do it constantly. I don't know, maybe he's injured or not, but it's not that it's the whole team feels it's hard to confront them. And they're just so solid defensively good. They are very good, they get off chances. Even though I was watching all the guard yesterday, and I started thinking about Fernandez, and there's sometimes where he'd have the ball and he'd like sort of say come back and then like pass out to the left or to the right. And I was thinking if that's Fernandez, he's trying to throw the ball, or he's trying something mad.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and he's that captain as well. You know, like like now, I don't know why Dak and Royce is not that captain. Don't get me wrong, just say like he's more like a captain, just say as as when Saka does be the captain when my older guys are not playing, so I don't think you know about that came from mind.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah I know they played a lot of games, you know, the way that's what the fellow was saying today, but he's been doing playing like this all season. I don't want to hear it.

SPEAKER_00

But we did say at the start of the season, you had the squad for all these games, didn't you think? So by right, um the I just I was disappointed with the last night. Like it was sad he only won 1-0, I was hoping he wouldn't win at all. But um but the fact that he did win just like like one nil is just a woman.

SPEAKER_01

That's where you're stuck then, isn't it? Because if they don't win it's City that wins the league, yeah, that one's like win the running. It's only one of them two, obviously. We know that for a while. It's not Liverpool, so I don't care really. I hope Barman would win tonight. Then going into the last game of the season, if Liverpool don't be Brentford, which Brentford they've been unlucky the last couple of years. Not in the forest, not in the forest. Barn could get Champions League. So would you rather Liverpool miss out on Champions League or Arsenal in the league if you had to pick? I don't know. I sort of think if Liverpool are in the Champions League, it's more of games for them and more tougher games for them to play for next season. Because whereas they could win the Europa League if they're in it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Liverpool and it's another trophy that they could win, that you don't want them to win and whatnot. Like so look with Liverpool next year. And you know what?

SPEAKER_00

We hope this and hope this and think that, and it's all if spots and maybes, we don't know. When the two games are all team, not when they say we just have to hope that you United see what you see and you just back the manager for the summer and there's a there's a chance here, there's a gap in the Premier League now for us to get back.

SPEAKER_01

There's a gap in the market.

SPEAKER_00

But there is if I come in the lake to say playing football like this, uh definitely a a an opportunity here to summer. If you're not getting the recruitment right, you know, tell you, you know, next year I put them down in my predictions to finish fifth, now they finish third, people were laughing, somebody picks eighth and this and tenth. I said, Does it uncan Martin Wood, if they get the recruitment right like because the league is so poor and all, and and next year now everybody will improve next year, but if you know you get the right recruitment, you know you could push for the league next year. Tell you. People might laugh at me. No, tell you people let's see how the recruitment goes for the board with you. Lucky bag bleeding by us, we don't buy the players that the team that you need.

SPEAKER_01

People can have an eye, keep an eye out for August for our predictions and see what they're gonna put down with them for next season.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, they'll say, come on in champions!

SPEAKER_01

They'll have to make his duty boy for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But uh, yeah, so that's all their their results. So my result of the week, I'm gonna give it to Sunderland. Oh, so am I? Beating Everton 31 away, looking fairness. I was thinking Villa, but Villa, I'm gonna give it to Villa. Yeah, yeah, and Lee's got a good win.

SPEAKER_00

They'd be laughing, you may be laughing and saying Lee Finn mentioned Leeds again, but they got a good win against Brighton. But um Sunderland went away to Everton, and Everton had a lot to play for, gone for Europe. Yeah, Beaton. Good win.

SPEAKER_01

Well Villa, um, that's not the first time they've tummed Liverpool, is it? No, yeah, it's real, yeah. So yeah, we're gonna we move on to Sean's questions. You have a few questions. Yeah, it was it was one fellow. You know, James sent to me, he said it to me, he didn't write it in. I alone said, Sean, have you calmed down after the West Ham Arsenal game yet? When I see that getting that, I just said here I'm done with done with Arsenal now. Yeah, yeah. Someone sent me a photograph of all the um the instance of it. Like there's our dodgy, dodgy like everyone gets dodgy decisions and it gets against them. That's the part of Varga where everybody but Arsenal have two, three, four, five, six, twelve, eighteen different instruments should have been against this decision. That's a lot of points, isn't it? Yeah, you know, but that's not exactly what I'm just saying. That's why it's just pissed me off.

SPEAKER_00

It's supposed to be swings around about that, but it didn't even itself out. I was a three tier.

SPEAKER_01

Let's put this because it's Arsenal because it's because they're gonna win the league, and that's our best team that we have to offer in England. I know they're in the Champions League final, but they're not as good as Bayern Munich are thinking, they're defensively really solid, but they're not a good nice team to watch. And e-football, that's our best team we have to offer.

SPEAKER_00

Come here now. If you play like you played last night against PHG, and you can only be born in with a cone of PHG is slowed and versus the talent they have, and then all these uh dodgy decisions.

SPEAKER_01

Like, come on, you shouldn't need them dodgy decisions as such. I know we've got them throughout the years now, but this is taking the piss. But so the answer to your question, I haven't, but I don't really care. Little in the league. I was about to say that I think it's driving to him in the league, and that's your question. I think now is the answer to that question. We've got some problems. Um so James, thanks for that. Um Paulie wrote in to us, will we back Carrick? I thought we think we sort of answered that, but yeah, we have to have to. I think you have to.

SPEAKER_00

Whoever comes in, you have to back them, like that's it. Yeah, at the end of the at the end of the day, we're uh Man United fans. So whoever's back whatever players are bringing will be back. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01

Hopefully it changes Laden. So, like I said, supposedly he had to just play certain ways to get results because of the players he had. So if they do go in like six players or something, it could change. That's all.

SPEAKER_00

He knows look at Camera, he knows them as as we always say that we could go back there years ago now, the Man United the way it's the other way, and it's different rules, different football now the way it is. But but he knows Man United inside out. So if there is a system like the fans that we like to attack them footballing on, he knows it. So if they can back him up, he hopefully he can try and get right.

SPEAKER_01

We'll back him in. I know I'll be getting out of them a lot as well as well, but we're still saying happy what he got us. I mean the circumstances, yeah. Like I can get on board, bro. I have to. Same at whoever. But I will back, I won't be like carry out straight away. That's not fair. No, no. No, you'd never be like that. No, same with the players you get in. If it's not the players that we want, we'll still back them and hopefully that they do walk out and they see it. Of course, only because if you look at Algarth, we backed him like I saw a similar I was a similar player to him when he was playing in a way, like you know, not as headless chicken as he would, but um obviously he's a great footballer, like, I don't get wrong. You just and at the start he played well, you can see the tenacity, he wasn't we weren't sure how he was on the ball, but then he as time went on, yeah. It just um else in the league. It just wasn't good enough. So back to him and stand down, you just say, listen, get out. We could play. We've rinsed him now in the past as well. Yeah, so uh yeah, we will, Pauly, definitely. Thanks for that. Um so there's another one on transfers. Why are you so negative towards a sign of Belebe? Because we have a top player who really wants to come to the United States, that's on Jacob into us. Um I never thought we'd really thought much about Belebe. Yeah, not really. Sean, you're a bit of it's probably more sort of the price, isn't it? Yeah, I landed it. You go ahead, I know. I I but he's not a top player though. If you get the price right, then fair enough, you take it.

SPEAKER_00

As a second to midfielder, like I know you you should talk about now because you probably know more about him as well, because I do ask you as well. But no, not to replace Casemiro. That's all I'd say. If he need a couple of midfielders, he has to be a second midfielder. He's not a top player. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01

I understand what you're some people might think he is. That's why Brighton are brilliant. Oh, he's a hundred million, hundred million, a hundred million, a hundred million. No, bed drop down to seven. Oh, we're getting a great deal. No, he's not being robbed here, lads. No, no, he needs the he's a £40 million player.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, £50 at a moment.

SPEAKER_01

But if you could get him at that, because he might have a he showed a little bit of something, but look at his mentality since he didn't get his melt tonight last year playing now for Brighton. How is he gonna stick Man United's pressure? He won't. I'm telling you, that'll be 100 million, 70 million down the drain. Again, if you sign him and he becomes the next Caicedo, I'll be gladly wrong. Yeah, caught. But he has to be back up midfielder. No, he has to be wanted.

SPEAKER_00

If they're looking at three, he has he can't be the first one. He can be wanted the next two. I'll be happy with that. And that's it. So if that dancing him and him and Fernandez and Anderson, it'd be ideal three, but Tanali or whatever you say. You like Timini? You say Warren.

SPEAKER_01

It's the same price, warning will be the same price. Ten more million to get you um uh Tanali. And then it's probably a hundred million to get you. So you're telling me Anderson is only a 30 million more worth more than um the layer. No way I would have to do that.

SPEAKER_00

No, just the way you're not have to do the right thing. So it's not negative, it's been realistic.

SPEAKER_02

And that's it.

SPEAKER_01

So um and then another one saying thanks for that, Jacob. Uh James wrote into us um James B actually his name is Um how was Howard's not sent off against Bornie next. Uh I think we sort of touching that, didn't we? I didn't see it. Yeah, I shouldn't have been. Yeah, I I don't know. James.

SPEAKER_00

I was watching the match but I didn't see that bit because May I was getting it wasn't well, you know what I mean? So I had to look out the man. So um I don't know how he I didn't see that bit.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know, but it's a simple answer. Like he stud straight onto the back of his calf. Yeah, nowhere near the ball. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I actually it just fits into the the the one of the 18 decisions you have to be shown with the case.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly, exactly.

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Isn't it?

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. Anyway, what's the next question?

SPEAKER_00

He's gotta find out now, isn't he? Of course he's gonna do now, he's gonna take many red cards at Art who have many panels again. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Arteta sent the question in, did he? Why do you hate my team so much?

SPEAKER_00

But anyway, with the onions, anti-football.

SPEAKER_01

But anyway, um so uh the next one here. So yeah, this is from Kieron Ryan. What do we make of Mo Salah's comments towards the manager? Alright.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, well look, do you know what I'm not surprised? No. Um it's just he left it so late and like he did he really have to say it. We like he didn't mention them, but obviously it was against him because it's the type of football that line, so he says, like anybody who comes to Liverpool and plays them should be playing this way and that way. Like so it's it's look at it's a just a back entrance into like giving it about slot, and that's it. But so didn't he didn't go around like since before Christmas either? So I'm not gonna dropped them and he said that we don't see the eye of it or we've no respect for each other. Is that what he said? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Did he have a did he walk past all the microphones that he can all speak like the open area or whatever it's called? And he didn't he say something along the lines of oh, if I open your mouth, I I'll get in trouble. Or yeah, then he got him.

SPEAKER_00

He got suspended and he didn't even bring him to a Champions League match. So it's going on for months. Yeah, so it's not surprised, but do you know what? It's wrong of him to say it as well though, because he's saying it against the manager, he's saying like he's saying what we all probably think that Slotter's not good enough, but I mean he's not bigger than the club either. Like we didn't recognise when he said it either, like we united when you said it that Pierce Morgan just like so like he's actually not enjoying.

SPEAKER_01

I thought he was right to say that. I'll probably again go against the grain of everybody, but all of a sudden Carrington Carrington is this big mad fancy facility then.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but look at changed that, isn't it? Yeah, but look at you going back to going back um Mo Stella. No, I don't think he should have said that, and it was wrong, wrong to say it. So I mean I don't think that as a Liverpool fan, now you you know if you're like Shane and all of that, like don't come he's a great player and all, but it could knock a little bit of respect off from from now leaving the way he's leaving now like that. Is it so grapeful now like that? Like he him and the manager fell out and like or is he sending a thing to Liverpool? I'm going out like it's ever wasted there as a manager. Is he trying that's what I'm thinking? Is he trying to do the club a favour? Yeah, but he's actually doing more damage. Yeah, I'm gonna I think that's right.

SPEAKER_01

I think he's not doing any favourite at all. Some things are better left unsaid. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and you know what? I wouldn't be surprised now, like if now to me, if I was the manager now and I'm not, and I don't know what my manager thing to say, but if I was Anna Slot now, there's no way I wouldn't be putting him near the team on something. Do you know what's worse?

SPEAKER_01

Four or five players uh liked it or commented on it, like I think it's a big Jones put a clapping thing, I think it was emoji, something like that.

SPEAKER_00

But just bring turmoil to this club now and and and like slot in, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

The league in our last year was straight. They're plainly playing anti-football as well, they're playing brutal, yeah. Yeah, I don't know. Would you play in the weekend if you were the manager? I see that's where them that's even like something like that, like this is the last game and all the fans will manage him under the bus again. Because like I said, if he doesn't play him, the fans obviously especially if you especially if you especially if you if you don't qualify to the Champions League.

SPEAKER_00

Like if Barmhook BC and they don't win on Sunday.

SPEAKER_01

He's gonna show weakness if he starts him, but he will get a lot of brownie points from Liverpool fans because Liverpool fans at the end of the day, most ellers are a hero. You know, at least I'd say he has been, so he needs a good send-off, at least. So if he doesn't play him, I mean imagine he didn't even get a send-off. Oh, he brought him over the last five minutes or something. Talk about any Liverpool fans you have left on his side, they'd be gone. So he will play him. I think he should play him. But it's not uh it does look a bit weak then because but it's a smart thing to do. He's stuck between a rock and a hard place. Yeah, we just went, you know, so hopefully, yeah. Yeah, he and he and most Alec, hopefully it's more of these circumstances, you know. Yeah, hopefully, yeah. No, yeah, it was a bit strange already. A bit weird, yeah, yeah. He hasn't said much though, he wouldn't. But we're just glad it's Liverpool and I think. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00

At the end of the week, we went through enough and we'd like to go through enough of the last 14 years. Hopefully we're on the way back up. Thanks, like here on night.

SPEAKER_01

So uh this was sent into us by a couple of people, Gav, Gavin, Mark and James, and a lot of the people on town. What's the plans for the summer podcast? What's the plans for the summer for the podcast? You've gone, I suppose. There'll be enough to talk about. Games gone, so we'll be like we have holidays coming up in that as well in July, so we might take a break for a week. Two weeks, maybe. Yeah, we'd like to break. Would that be something that if we end up talking to people if that's would you want us to do that?

SPEAKER_00

It's like you know, I'm not it'll be hard to do it where if we're the way just say somewhere else in Spain, then and then and then whatever and Connor's here of he's gone somewhere else to say and so maybe we'll look we'll make a hands aren't finalized. Yeah, we'll make a decision, but look, it certainly won't be like we're giving up. If we're taking a break, it'd be for two weeks, that's all. I mean give we give a date for uh for uh uh last one and we'll give a date for the one that we'll be starting off again.

SPEAKER_01

Well then we'll probably be doing transfers, world cup plenty there. The podcast mightn't go on as long, though. We keep them it might be just hard if if we're in different countries. There's a lot of transfer now as the managers and the pre-season to be started and that's so yeah. You might enjoy a break from us for two weeks. The Arsenal fans will anyway. Anything else about the show, maybe personal questions, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, give people time to think about and and reflect on and see if they really enjoy it and then carry out. We do another quiz or something, maybe.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, we can do that. Yeah, if anybody wants to fling in questions and whatnot. Something like that. We'll come up with um uh an agenda. Yeah, well no, we will people look at people in the show. We're gonna go see one or two things that we're thinking of doing as well, and uh throw it down the live lead and we'll let you know, yeah. Engage the audience and see what what the crack is with people. Since we started this we've gotten very, very good feedback at the beginning of it, not really thinking too much about it as I don't know. You did kind of like you said, like I you can check on just the the app we're up to like nearly a hundred countries now and like a hundred and twenty cities that were they listened to in and like even like all of our downloads and all, like it's like nearly up to like two thousand and all and so it's got gone popular like on regular listeners and we might have to show our faces on it. Yeah, well obviously that's something that we've been talking about, isn't it, behind the scenes. So if people are look at if you just have any comments on that, or if he's wanting to ask that like if you like that, like you could throw in to a video podcast further down the line. I think. You know what I mean? Like so it's all down to feedback from people and whether they would want us to watch, want to watch us.

SPEAKER_00

If you like what he was waffling on about what we're waffling on about, if you like to see our faces, that's it.

SPEAKER_01

So you used to do direct it really. Like it's I hope much participation, people listening. It's much more driving the way we're going. So it's very good, so I'd say thank you.

SPEAKER_00

As much as we we we appreciate it, so we do appreciate the feedback so and the listenership. So what we can only thank them like for the whole season, so where because without them listening, like like it wouldn't just wouldn't be too we still do it because we are enjoying it, but it just makes it so much easier and so much more enjoyable that we know that people are giving feedback. Yeah, that's it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, much appreciated. Yeah, not sure we're leaving on that now. Yeah, no, and that's it. We'll be back next week to we look back after last weekend if it's like you more managerial news, and then we'd have a little look ahead towards the Champions League final. That's it. That's it. That'll be it then. Roll on World Cup, roll on season reviews, United reviews, everything.

SPEAKER_00

We'll give it all out then over the next couple of weeks and we enjoy doing it, and we carry on, and you say we'll enjoy doing it. And if the worst comes to the worst time, we have to stop because we're going on the hole. I just say it'll be a two-week break, that's all. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's it. Shout out to Ireland, they've been they've won nil during the week.

SPEAKER_01

But they'll won Clive Nil and then out there. That won't be totally against that either the game.

SPEAKER_00

Seamus Cowan wants to carry on. Yeah, yeah. Fairness. He said he like he wants to carry on. There we get another uh contract with Evan and that, but like Everton he did. That's what he said he could go to Lice of Coventry or something like that. If there's anything to come up, could be a good full back, like a really experienced person, but he still wants to carry on football. Okay, that's good. So it's good, yeah. Fair play to him, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Uh yeah, look at me back next week, episode forty. And uh yeah, we'll do it all over again next week.

SPEAKER_00

So thanks for listening, then that's right, thank you.