Season 2, Episode 10

On this episode, my friend Kerri is back! We discuss going through different seasons as a mom and a woman. We talk about how we've grown and changed over time, what we miss and what we are thankful for. We finish with some "finish the sentence" fun, and of course our favorite parts of the week and my song of the week. Hope you enjoy!

Piles Card Game 

Aerie Crochet Quarter Zip

“Carney Man” by Cross Canadian Ragweed 

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:11

Hey everybody, welcome back to the Sorry Whatever podcast. This is season two, episode 10, and I have a familiar voice back on with me today, my friend Carrie. Hello. So uh Carrie, even not been on this season, but last season you're on a few different times. And one of the times we talked about like friendship, and then I remember what else we talked about. Maybe just live. Oh, mom's a lot of people.

SPEAKER_01 0:35

One of the Christmas Oh, we talked about our Christmas traditions.

SPEAKER_02 0:38

Yes. Okay. So you will recognize Carrie's voice. Um, and I'm so thankful you're back on today. I'm glad to be back. Um, so this episode, I really wanted to delve into um like just the stage of life kind of that we're in that I think a lot of our friends are in. And that's it's just it's like a season is changing for a lot of us, like with our kids and how old we are, like all the things. Like just I feel like there's just a lot of change right now and kind of unknown as to know what's like what to expect, I guess, like post these changes happening. Um, so the reason that I felt like this was something we should talk about, and it's kind of silly, but it popped into my head. Um, so I was taking my nephew, Jude. Um, I was watching him. I guess it was last week, maybe. And I was watching him because uh my sister just had a baby girl a couple weeks ago. A beautiful baby girl. She is precious, and um, that's what I purposely didn't talk about last time because she had to spend a little bit of time in the Nikki right after she was born. So we were all just my sister hadn't posted anything yet, and so I was like, I don't, that's not my place. Um, but she's home and she's healthy. Um, she just went to the doctor yesterday and she's back up to her birth weight.

SPEAKER_01 1:55

That's amazing. That's so great.

SPEAKER_02 1:58

That speaking of like seasons changing, like I when I hold her and I'm doing all the things, you know, like just being an aunt, I guess. Yeah, I'm like, man, it's been a minute.

SPEAKER_00 2:09

Yeah, since I've had a baby. Fresh, brand new brand new life.

SPEAKER_01 2:14

The little noises they make and all this stuff, you know, and their smells and their just their little tiny fingers and toes, and you just her little nose, like when they yawn.

SPEAKER_02 2:26

Oh my gosh, I could just I go on and on. She's beautiful, and I love her so much. Lay there and cut. Yes, right now for a couple weeks, for a couple weeks, and then everything hits the fan. No, I'm just kidding. Um, but anyways, when she was in the NICU, I watched my nephew just for one day. Um, but I was trying to think of something to take him to go do, and so I was like, Well, we can go to the playground. And it just got me thinking, I'm like, I've it has been a very long time since I've taken a kid to a playground.

SPEAKER_01 2:54

Yeah, same. Yeah. We used to go all the time. We lived there, I feel like, yeah. Meetup spot, and then we don't go.

SPEAKER_02 3:02

Nope. It's like a thing of the past, I feel like. And I kind of I was looking around at like the moms and stuff, and I see them. I like a place that I run, I run by like a little playground. And so every time, I mean, it's like 8 30 in the morning, and these moms are out there with these toddlers. And I'm like, Yeah, because those kids are up at the crack of dawn. They are, and their energy is like bouncing all over the wall. Like, I remember, like, I remember that. So we are not there anymore. We are at college visits and graduation and just kids about to move out of the house for the first time. And like it just seems, it seems not that long ago. Oh my gosh, you know, for sure. Which granted, like Aaron and Colton aren't even 10 yet.

SPEAKER_01 3:47

They're not, but you know, I think they're also at the phase where we're not taking them to the park, but they're that in-between age where you're like, what can they do on their own? Is it okay if they go to the park by themselves, a close park? Or is it okay if they do whatever by themselves, go on a walk, or you know, so it's kind of a in-between where you're not sure what they're really able to do on their own. Or what you feel comfortable with them. Or trust them. Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_02 4:21

So I just wanted to just talk a little bit about that. And then I have a fun, like, little game at the end that we're gonna do. But so, okay, so I feel like for me, and I've talked to you about this, and I feel like that you have similar feelings, but I feel like it's like, you know, one day it feels like we're just trudging through every day with like these little kids at home. And then now we're here. And it's not that I have a lot of free time, but it's more just like the time that I have has shifted as to what I need to do. Yes. And so it's like you get in this routine, and I actually talked to Tatum about this on the episode that she was on with us, but like you get into this routine and then it like changes, and then I'm kind of standing here, like, okay, what do I do now?

SPEAKER_01 5:07

Yeah, you know. I think I I've talked to a lot of people lately that are in the same same boat, like kids about to graduate, kids, you know, this being their final one to graduate, so they're gonna be an empty nester. Yeah, which is a whole other and you know, multiple kids in college and all that kind of stuff. So I think as a mom, you kind of think, what you know, what's my purpose gonna be? Yeah, because your purpose has been to be a caretaker of these young people, and they don't need as much caretaking physically anymore. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:46

Yeah. And it's a little, it's kind of sad. Oh gosh. But it's also exciting, you know, like for sure. Yeah. Like to know, like, oh, okay, like we've we've moved past that, like you needing me every second of the day. But it's also just it's just very, very bittersweet. Um I couldn't agree more with that. Yeah. And it's like you're just trying to figure out like, okay, am I normal? Like the way that I'm feeling, is it normal? And then thankfully you talk to friends and you're like, oh yeah. Yeah. These are like we're all feeling these emotions similarly. Yes. Uh fun little topic, and I've talked about this before, but I went to the doctor a few weeks ago and had my like hormones tested.

SPEAKER_03 6:31

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 6:32

And we all do that these days, getting the hormones tested. And can I tell you, I was actually very happy, and I have told you this before, but I was actually very happy to know that there are things that are wrong in my body.

SPEAKER_01 6:48

Yeah. Then you know that you're not crazy when you're thinking this is not how I usually feel, or this is not what my body usually does.

SPEAKER_02 6:57

So I was, I was more afraid that I was gonna get the results to back and she was gonna be like, Oh, you're normal. Everything is fine. Yeah. And I was just gonna be like, then am I a psychopath? Because like I don't I don't feel normal. Yeah. Um, so on top of like the seasons changing, our bodies are changing and everything's just going crazy.

SPEAKER_01 7:18

I agree. I think it's um, you know, when you hit these milestones birthdays, like I had a milestone birthday this year, and then your mind just starts, oh my gosh, you know.

SPEAKER_02 7:30

Reeling.

SPEAKER_01 7:30

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:31

Yeah, it's a lot. Okay. Well, and this was so another thing, another reason why I wanted to talk to you about this is last week I came over and we went for a walk because we like to do that as much as we can. And we get back into your house and you're like, I want to show you my plants. And I'm like, okay, let's go look at your plants. And you're showing me how you propagated them. And, you know, I've I've got to see the progression progression of them because this is not a topic that we have, you know, it's it was not the first time we've talked about this topic. So we're walking through, and then you're like, and then I got this bird feeder on your window. And I said, I'm a bird feeder too, and I love watching the birds. And I just stood there and I looked at you and I was like, This is this is where we are. This is it.

SPEAKER_01 8:17

This is our excitement. Well, you know, the funny thing is that um all of these things when I was younger before kids, I thought, oh my gosh, gardening, that is so boring. Birds, that's what old, old people do.

SPEAKER_02 8:33

Yeah, like white hair.

SPEAKER_01 8:34

And now all the things that I thought were not exciting, I'm very excited about.

SPEAKER_02 8:42

And I am too. And that's why like you said something, and you're like, oh, we don't, and I was like, no, I this is also I enjoy this as well. Well, we looked at your plants this morning. We've already propagated some stuff. We're propagating some we're cutting things up and doing all the things. Yeah, I think that that, and I I kind of threw it out there too when we were talking. I said, Well, at least you don't also do puzzles.

SPEAKER_01 9:02

Because that's really cool. But you play games, so I do play games. Uh I do not do puzzles. That has been one thing that I'm I don't know, it's never been a thing, my thing. Yeah, but we play words with friends on um on the phone. Yeah. Bryce and I do, and that's more, it's like a scrabble. Yeah. And that is what I do. That is very, very, if I if my younger self could see me now, I would be like, Are you serious? That is so boring.

SPEAKER_02 9:34

But it's fun. I we were talking about it and then we were kind of laughing at you know, at ourselves. And you said, At least I have a hobby. And I was like, true that. Like, at least we have things that we are interested in doing, even if they're old people things. Yeah, like I would rather have a hobby than be sitting around. I know.

SPEAKER_01 9:52

I agree. And it's I think like having the hobby of the the propagating the plants and growing the plants, you see the actual results. Yeah, so that is very exciting to me. And they're pretty.

SPEAKER_02 10:05

Yeah. Yeah. So even though Bryce is like, okay, do we need another plant?

SPEAKER_01 10:10

I know. His office has become a jungle, but you're the best light. Hello. He's getting healthier with the air, the air quality in there. But the birds, we have so many cool local birds. Yeah. Not that I want to go totally into that, but we actually next episode. Next episode. But we do we have bald eagles here. Did you know that? I that doesn't surprise me, but I have not seen one. Yes, my friend has some that um fish in her pond. Uh and it is so cool. Like they are really cool to see in the wild. Yeah, really awesome.

SPEAKER_02 10:46

Yeah, it's like majestic. Yeah. It's crazy. Yeah. Okay, we're gonna move on from birds. Yeah. So I guess we kind of answered our own question, but like, what does this season of life look for you right now? Um look like for you right now.

SPEAKER_01 11:02

I think I'm busy in ways that I wasn't before. It's more um being available emotionally to my kids and that's a big one. Like trying to plan, and I know this sounds probably silly to people that don't have kids that are seniors or aren't even close to that, but there is so much that goes into this next year. I'm already trying to think about our senior pictures, what we're gonna do for that, what we're gonna do for that, you know. Yep. Even thinking about when to have the party, which I know is a year from now.

SPEAKER_02 11:38

Yeah, but you know, um and then you have a girl too, and I feel like that is I feel like it's a whole other level. Um, but it's still, I mean, I had to do all those things too.

SPEAKER_01 11:49

You're not, yeah, you're not not doing them, you're just doing them. Girls are a little extra, I will say. You did your photo shoot for Aiden, and he had probably one outfit. Yeah, too. He changed one time, but yeah, I mean, girls, it's a little, you know, more um intensive. Yeah, I was trying to think of a word to say for that.

SPEAKER_02 12:11

Yeah, I totally agree with that. I feel like now it's shifted from like the physical parenting. Yeah. And I mean, you're obviously there physically and you know, whatever, but like now it's definitely the okay, yeah. Like the emotional part of it, and also it's looking ahead more. Yes, I feel like. Yeah, yeah. Um you're not like in the weeds, so you're able to see like out around you is a little scary. It is, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:39

And I and I think too, outside of the my focus has been totally on the kids, I would say for my entire time of having kids. Yeah, and so now I am also focusing on having things of my own, such as the things that we just talked about. Oh, you're a plant baby. Yeah, my plant babies and finding things that I enjoy that define me as something in addition to being a mom.

SPEAKER_02 13:09

Yeah, no, I totally get that. And that actually kind of goes into this next one. Um we already explained like kind of what feels different right now, and I think we just did a really good job of that. But I feel like my eye is twitching. That is that is so annoying. Sorry. Maybe that is that the hormones?

SPEAKER_01 13:31

I don't know. I can't even see it. Like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 13:34

But you know, like when you have it and you're feeling it and you just it's like you can't make it stop anyways. So sorry. Um, I feel like right now a change I've seen in the past probably year, honestly, is I'm seeing more friends like go back to work or starting new businesses, and friendships are changing through all of this because I'm still staying at home. Granted, I'm you know, doing things or maybe trying new things out, but like it's just different. Like people you're seeing the shift, I guess, in what people are doing.

SPEAKER_01 14:06

That's true too. Yeah, and they're doing what we're talking about, trying to figure out what their next step is.

SPEAKER_02 14:15

You know, yep. And I think I think I I feel like sometimes I have to take a step back and be like, okay, that is great for them and they're thriving over there, but that doesn't mean it has to be great for me. Yeah, you know, because I definitely have my moments where I'm like, should I be doing that or should I be doing this? And I thankfully have, you know, a husband who's like, no, we really, really, you know, and not that he he would encourage me to do whatever I want to do, but I think sometimes after we reminded, like, what you want to do is okay. Like if you want to stay home, if you want to try this podcasting out, if you want to have chickens, if you want to, you know, whatever, like it's okay to keep doing that, you know.

SPEAKER_01 14:57

Yeah, I I think I question too. Like, I think everybody kind of thinks, oh, maybe, you know, my purpose now is to have a career, or yeah. But at the same point, you and I, we still have elementary children. Very true. We we kind of spread everybody out a little bit. So in this for the long haul, I feel like we're not about to be empty nesters anytime soon. Yes. So that's very true. We can just smother our little guys, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:28

Although, I mean, I have friends that have started businesses or working that they still have kids like in the home, but like they're like at school. But I honestly it would be, and I think that it is, and I think that if you can make it work, it's awesome. For our family logistically, it just does not make a lot of sense for us. It would have to be the right fit. Yeah. Do you feel like you're in between versions of yourself right now?

SPEAKER_01 15:59

Yes. Yeah. Because I wish I had my younger body. And I have this old body, but I still have so much to do.

SPEAKER_02 16:14

There's nothing more relatable than that. Hello.

SPEAKER_01 16:18

I want the younger me doing all this stuff.

SPEAKER_02 16:21

I want my hip to not hurt when I stand up.

SPEAKER_01 16:24

My knee to not be in pain. You know, I want to have unlimited amounts of energy. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:33

Listen, apparently, apparently, when I get this, like hopefully this hormonal stuff figured out, hopefully that's the goal is to have more energy. Yeah. We will see. We will see. I don't know. Uh speaking of in-between versions, that is definitely it's like, what does what does the next me look like? Which I know we can't know that, but like, what is that gonna look like? Because I'm very different from the me, oh gosh, even from five years ago. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:02

I want the knowledge that I have now, along with the younger, yes, the younger body. And the younger no wrinkles. Okay. Gorgeous hair back in the day.

SPEAKER_02 17:16

I never had gorgeous hair. So okay. What so right now, what is something that like you are learning about yourself? Um I can answer it, too, if you need to.

SPEAKER_00 17:31

Yeah, you go first.

SPEAKER_02 17:32

I would say right now what I'm learning about myself is that I can be more confident, I guess. Um, lady, get down. That's good. I think I'm learning that I can just do the things that I feel like are right and not necessarily worry about everything else. So, like, for example, I just this past week I was very nervous to send this text, but I took a break from piano lessons. Oh. Which for me, that has been a source of joy. But right now, I honestly just am not having the time to sit down and practice every day. And so I had to just kind of look at that and just be confident in like, okay, I can come back to this, but right now this is not for me. Um, I need to take a break. I do want to come back to it because I do enjoy it, but I was like, it's not worth it to go to lesson, pay for the lesson, and then not I think that's huge to you know be able to recognize that and that I can't do everything, it's okay. I guess. Yeah. Like I've got I I think I've just learned that I can trust like what my what I'm thinking, what my body is. Your instincts and my instincts. Yeah, yeah. I feel like that has not always become easy to meet. So do you have anything?

SPEAKER_01 18:55

No, I agree with you on that. I I feel like um I'm able to manage my time better than I have been in the past. Yep. Um, and just saying no to the things that and I know we've talked about this a ton of times about saying no to things, but truly being a few.

SPEAKER_02 19:18

Learning to say no is a real thing.

SPEAKER_01 19:20

Yeah. Yeah. And um but to truly like and feel okay.

SPEAKER_02 19:26

No.

SPEAKER_01 19:26

Like, I'm okay.

SPEAKER_02 19:27

Yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure. That I yeah, it kind of runs the same lines, probably what I'm and then so like right now, I guess the kind of answer to it too, like, what are you doing differently?

SPEAKER_01 19:37

Um, you know, I think the biggest thing, and this is gonna sound corny, but no, I think it's my attitude about you can get this stuff done, you can do this, and taking more joy in the mundane things. Yeah. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 19:58

So yep, no, I love that. I think I I yeah, I think that that's exactly like the feeling that I have too. It's more like, okay, I'm not gonna dwell on things as much as I used to. And don't get me wrong, I dwell on the things, but I think I'm learning to be like, that is not, that doesn't even make sense. Like, what are you doing? I don't know. I feel like maybe I'm able to understand a little bit faster before I like totally tailspin into like something that really doesn't matter. Okay, what is actually better in this season for you?

SPEAKER_01 20:35

I would say I enjoy a lot more things with my kids. Like they're able to do like we played this, we can play games, all of us can play more complicated games together. And the other night it was the three kids and myself, and we were playing this one game, and we stayed up until like midnight, and we were just laughing and playing this game and yeah, just having fun.

SPEAKER_02 21:04

So yeah, that's I yeah, I think so too. I feel that I feel that too with the boys. Um, I think also I think it goes back to, and Trent actually mentioned to the this to me the other day, is um I think I'm feeling better in this season because and I don't I don't want to be like, oh, I'm so awesome or whatever, but I do definitely do have more confidence in myself right now. I think it's not huge. And not that I feel like I'm like, I can do anything, I'm amazing, I never make mistakes. Because that like honestly, in that I'm the total opposite where I feel like I make mistakes all the time, but I'm confident in knowing, like, okay, it's okay if you make a mistake, it's not a big deal. I think that's really awesome. But I think it's allowing me to just be like, whatever. Yeah, you know, yeah, sorry, whatever.

SPEAKER_01 21:52

And not not live in regret of every minute and every decision. Like it's okay.

SPEAKER_02 21:56

Yes, yeah. But honestly, getting to like play outside. With the boys and like play basketball, or even they just send out I can just send them outside and they can play. Like, granted, we still have fights and arguments and stuff, but it does. Oh man. And I even watching Jude, like my nephew, I love him so much. But even going back to like from having you know, my boys that are older to a five-year-old, and he's a really good boy, but it's like you don't remember like how much they still need you at that age, yeah. They do. Um, whereas like my boys, they don't mean meet up as much, and which is which honestly, like Jude is pretty like he's able to do a lot of stuff on his own, um, even for probably a regular five-year-old, but it's still different. He's very athletic, like oh, he's crazy. He's like, he, my sister and her husband are both super athletic. And I'm like, dude, you won with the jeans.

SPEAKER_01 22:50

Yeah, he's he's a very athletic, he's he's built to be an athlete. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:55

So and Reese is gonna be falling in his stuff. So anyway, sorry. Ariel, I know you're listening to this. I hope you enjoy this conversation about your kids. Okay, so last thing, and then we're gonna move on to the finish the sentence part, which is our, which I'm excited about. What is one thing that you're leaving behind from like this last season of your life?

SPEAKER_03 23:19

Hmm.

SPEAKER_02 23:20

Okay, you go first. So I have three, and I actually wrote the actually wrote these down, but um, overcommitting. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I know you you would be the first friend to be like, yes, you have had a problem with that in the past.

SPEAKER_01 23:34

Yeah, I have said that.

SPEAKER_02 23:35

And that has been talk about something that I've had to really work on for sure. Overcommitting, caring too much about what other people think, which goes back to all the other things I've said before. And then also having unrealistic expectations. I Trent, Trent is somebody who thrives with like, my expectations are gonna be way up here. And like, you need to do that sometimes. But like I have learned, especially like parenting the boys, like, I cannot go into a situation thinking that it's gonna be all roses and you know, beautiful, and that nobody's gonna fight and that it's gonna go just the way I planned. Like, that has been a learning I agree.

SPEAKER_01 24:18

I don't even agree with that more. That's something that I I feel too.

SPEAKER_02 24:23

And I hate to say this, but sometimes if you go in being like, there's gonna be issues, like this, they're gonna, we're gonna have this probably happen on our trip or not. And then it's like when it doesn't happen, you're like, ooh, look. Yeah. It's like setting yourself up for failure, and then when you don't fail, you're like, sweet. I don't know if that's healthy, but that that's how like that's how I operate now.

SPEAKER_01 24:44

But do you have anything to add? I just think for me, just having uh unrealistic expectations for myself, for the kids, you know, um, and being okay with the way things are. Yeah. Not, you know, I think sometimes you think, oh, I wish a comparison, or I wish I had a comparison, but you know, it's so so many pounds lighter, or I wish that, and I wish, you know, it's just I think that's where what I'm gonna leave behind. The unrealistic expectations, being okay with where you're at, trying to be happy in the moment. Yes, instead of always looking to like what you don't have. Like, oh, you know, I can't wait for this, I can't wait for that, which is good. Yeah, but also you can also have joy in sitting outside on your lawn, you know, on a Tuesday night or whatever.

SPEAKER_02 25:40

Yeah, I totally agree with that. And I think to just like not keep looking for the future to like be like, oh, I'll be happy when, or I'll be happy.

SPEAKER_01 25:51

That's exactly what I mean. Yes, yes, yes, that's exactly what I mean.

SPEAKER_02 25:54

Yeah, then that's like when I had Ella on and she was talking about that big time about like you have to choose joy like every day. Yes, and because we have so much to be thankful for, and like that is such a you know, cliche, but like to remember that, like that that really does work, like and that that's exactly what I'm trying to go for.

SPEAKER_01 26:16

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 26:17

At this point, yeah, no, for sure. Okay, let's move on. So this is a little game. Um, and I'm not gonna lie, I had chat GPT helped me come up with some of these. Um Chat GPT's great GPT. He's gonna analyze my plant over here in the corner later and tell me what's going on with it. Um okay, so finish the sentence is the theme. And I've sent this to you and we've talked about it, but so I have a list of these sentences, and I want you. Do you want me to answer first or you to answer first?

SPEAKER_01 26:47

Uh the the one that we talked about for you to answer first. Okay, okay. We'll just by ear. Yeah, let's have you go first. Okay, I guess. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:55

So the first one. I knew I was getting older when I knew I knew I was getting older. I actually just did it. Uh, one of the things, uh snorting. Um, when I started snorting, I knew I was getting older. Um, I knew I was getting older when my hip started hurting.

SPEAKER_01 27:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:22

Yeah. It's not great. No. It's not wonderful. And my boys make fun of me. Like we always talk about like like they like to talk in old man voices, and Aaron will be like, oh, my hip. Like that's literally what I say now.

SPEAKER_01 27:36

Okay. Um, I knew I was getting older when my back hurt from getting out of bed. Um, I knew I was getting older when I went to Orange Theory. I'll just leave it at that. When I almost died. Yeah. When I'm at Orange Theory with my 17-year-old daughter who's like super fit, sprinting at a 10 on the treadmill, and I'm just barely making it. I knew I was old then. Um I mean, I could go on.

SPEAKER_02 28:14

There are a lot of things. There are a lot of things. Okay. I don't know if I have a super good answer for this, so if you have one first, let me know. My most irrational fear is currently my most irrational fear. This is actually a good one. Last Father's Day, I went out to my chicken coop and I was surprised to find a snake in the like in the coop area where they lay the eggs because it was eating the eggs. So now I would say my most irrational fear is that I'm going to open up the chicken coop door and a snake is going to like shoot out at me. That's actually a rational fear since it's already happened.

SPEAKER_01 28:57

I wouldn't say that it was irrational at me.

SPEAKER_02 28:59

I just saw it. But that like you just see me rationally. I'm like kicking my head in before I even open the door. Yeah. Because spring is here and the snakes are you might the snakes are around. You might find another one.

unknown 29:14

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 29:14

Do you have one? Irrational fear. Um, you know, I um oh, that's it's it's hard.

SPEAKER_02 29:23

I mean, I have I have another one too about like the kids. Like anytime we go on a hike, I am always so afraid that they're just gonna like totally missed up and fall off the mountain. Okay. Or if we're like on a staircase somewhere and they're like, or like a railing and they're looking out over, I'm always afraid that just magically they're just gonna flip over and fall over.

SPEAKER_01 29:43

That is an irrational fear that I I have that too with Colton more so. Yeah. But um, do you ever have those dreams where all your teeth are falling out? That's an irrational fear. I've had it multiple times. My teeth just start crumbling.

SPEAKER_00 29:59

Oh, that sucks.

SPEAKER_01 30:00

And I just I pull them out and I'm like, ooh. So yeah, but my teeth are actually good. Okay, you don't be worrying. Nobody worry, they're not on the brink of falling out, but that is an irrational fear that I dream about. That's funny.

SPEAKER_02 30:14

Um and scary. Yeah. Okay, the hill I will die on is. I was telling you before, I have two of these. One that is not so serious, is so Aiden and I were watching Chad Powers the other day. Have you seen that? I've seen part of the first. Yeah. So we well, we just watched the first episode, so I can't even say a whole lot. But you know, Glenn Powell, he's a very attractive man. Like you got Top Gun, you know, Maverick. He's he's wonderful in it.

SPEAKER_01 30:46

My and the one with Sydney Sweeney. I haven't seen that one.

SPEAKER_02 30:50

You what? Is it good? Okay. You know, I'm kind of lame when it comes to watching stuff. It's really cute. Like cute. Okay. Yeah. I think that the hill I will die on is I think that he has a funny looking body.

SPEAKER_01 31:04

I think you're the only one that doesn't love him.

SPEAKER_02 31:10

He was very successful. And I think he is handsome. I think he is shaped funnily. But so, and then the one that is a little more serious, hit the hill I will die on, is I believe that a person's I think the most important feature or personality that like type that a person can have is humility. I believe that humility is that is like the biggest thing, and maybe that's kind of a pet peeve too of mine, is if somebody is like super like prideful in the way that they talk to me. I'm instantly like, no, yeah. And that in I the hill I will die on is I feel like humility is one of the best features that any human can have.

SPEAKER_01 31:51

So yeah, I I agree with that. I think um the hill I will die on is I feel that um are you gonna be funny or not? I'm not gonna be funny at this point. I don't know what to expect is integrity, just being able to have a a conversation with someone and share your real self and not and feel that they're able to share as well. Yeah. Um, and then the other hill that I will die on is I feel like everyone who's a part of BHS in Bentonville West should try Ignite. Oh, yeah. I think Ignite is amazing. Yes, and oh I like that one too.

SPEAKER_00 32:38

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 32:38

That's the other hill. I I preach about that all the time. Get on a soapboat. Love about that. Yeah, love Ignite, so many opportunities for kids.

SPEAKER_02 32:46

So many. Like I, you know, Aiden does like the education part of Ignite, and I know Cam does like the medical, but you have like mechanic, and you know, like it's not just these like perf, you know, like super you have to go to school for forever jobs. Yeah. Um and I just think, yeah, I would agree with that.

SPEAKER_01 33:06

I I was talking to somebody about their uh daughter is in the business program, and she was going on about how yes, they love it so much.

SPEAKER_02 33:14

But and think about like when our like little boys get up there, like they're gonna have it's gonna grow so much and be awesome. Yeah, I agree with that. That's definitely a soapbox I will get on for sure. Um okay. Okay, this is the one that's kind of hard. We're gonna tread lightly here. Yes, because we don't want to throw anybody under the bus.

SPEAKER_01 33:32

But but we could be persuaded to. No, I'm kidding.

SPEAKER_02 33:37

No, we're not. We're not going to but I knew we were really friends when I'm gonna start. This is something we agreed on.

SPEAKER_01 33:49

Like, and I do I want to say too, we both have the same time that we're talking about. Yes, but from different perspectives. Yes, yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_02 33:59

So yeah, so like we both agree that this is when we really waity.

SPEAKER_01 34:03

And we agreed, like we thought of this separately, yes, and then came together and I told her this is what mine was. And then it was the same. So it wasn't that we agreed, oh, this is it, but we just both felt that way.

SPEAKER_02 34:16

Yeah, yeah, no. Um, which kind of makes me happy because then I feel like we've just I know our brains are on the same page, which I knew that before, but okay. So I knew we were really friends when um when we were both going through a situation with somebody, um, and things were said, stories were told, people were kind of thrown under the under the bus. Yep. Um, and it was a situation where I was kind of I want to, yeah, kind of caught in the middle a little bit. Um, but I realized that you were a true friend to me because I was kind of taken advantage of by the other party. Um, I was made to feel like, you know, my emotions that I have or the way that I react to things, like they were using it against me. And I, if anything, like Trent and I were actually talking about this the other day, I am secretly stubborn. Like, I I'm pretty go with the flow and like want to listen and like please people for sure. But like if you make me feel like I am lesson or that you're using how I am against me, I'm instantly like, uh-uh. And like I will like my stubborn side will come through. So, all that being said, kind of stuck in the middle in this situation, not really stuck in the middle, more like I was definitely leaning one way, but that like really solidified it. But the thing that made me know that like you were a true friend and that we were really friends was that you never once tried to make me feel like I should feel one way or the other. Yeah. Like it was definitely a hey, you like you see all of this. Like it's not my job to try to make you feel one way or the other. And um, speaking of integrity, like, which I think is what you're gonna say about me too, but like there was just I saw a lot of integrity in you and I saw a lot of realness in you where it wasn't like a game. You weren't trying to play a game with me. You were more like, I want to be your friend, but like also I'm not like here to tell you how to feel or what to think or do. And that in me is such a good because I have had friends that have tried have tried to make me think or feel a certain way. And like that, once again, stubbornness.

SPEAKER_01 36:38

I'm like, uh-uh, no, don't need to manipulate someone into 100% feeling something. So mine, it's the same same thing. I mean, I know we can both picture exactly where we were, where we were when we were having this conversation, but um, I just felt like back to the integrity word. Yeah. That you had integrity and you were you were able to you're you're you weren't concerned about you were more concerned about the truth than about um making people happy, making people, you know, feel bad or hurt their feelings. Like you were able to make a decision. I'm trying to Yeah, no, like um, and I just knew that I could trust you and I knew that you were a good person.

SPEAKER_02 37:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:30

And I've always known that.

SPEAKER_02 37:32

I mean, the more we kind of went through the fire there, you know. It was like to see the true side, I guess.

SPEAKER_01 37:38

It's kind of hard to talk about without talking about it. Yeah. Um but it was just like that moment just clicked. Yeah. And we had been friends for a while. And it was suddenly like, okay, now we're really, now we're really friends. Yeah. Yes. You kind of have that moment with people, and that was definitely our moment. And it's it's funny that we both were able to recognize that at the same time.

SPEAKER_02 38:06

And like you said, it's like we were friends before, but I think it's just sometimes it takes just kind of going through a really hard thing to know that that person is gonna be there for you. Yeah. Um, because once again, I've been through other friendship situations where we go through a hard thing and then I realize, oh, you don't really care like about me, you know. And I think we both realize that each other cared about like you cared for me and I cared for you.

SPEAKER_01 38:36

I think what I was trying to say too is that you're not a people pleaser. I think that's what I was like. You weren't trying to make me feel better, like, oh well, you know, just saying something to make me feel better, and then saying something to make someone else feel better, just to put yourself in the middle and never take a stance on anything. I think that's where I was like, okay, she actually can take a stance and isn't um a coward, I guess. Yeah. And this wasn't even a big deal. No, like I'm not saying you had to have courage by any means, but just sometimes it does take courage to not agree with what everybody else says.

SPEAKER_02 39:16

Especially, yeah. I was gonna say something about something. Okay, that was great. Okay. This one's funny. At this stage of life, I have zero patience for a lot of things. Um everything just snorted. Everything.

SPEAKER_01 39:36

Everything. I was gonna say something that wasn't nice, so I'm gonna I'm gonna, I'm gonna rethink that.

SPEAKER_02 39:44

Um I have something this morning actually that made me realize like I don't have patience for that. Um I w I went for a run this morning. And I I don't maybe this isn't the correct answer for this, but I feel like when I'm either on a walk or on a run, if I'm passing somebody, yeah, I always smile or I'm like, good morning, or I don't need to have a conversation with you, but I'm always like, good morning, or wave. Yeah. So the first time I passed these two ladies and they're walking together and they're talking, so I get it. Like, so I passed them one time, like zero acknowledgement to me. And I was like, good morning. Like I just like yelled it and then I keep going. Yeah. And sometimes I feel like I yell it really loud because I have air pulses. Yeah. I'm probably like, good morning. Um, but then I passed them again. And look at I literally looked them in the eye and I said it again. I was like, hi again. Yeah. And like nothing. And I was just like, you like, and I know I ran after I ran not after them. I ran.

SPEAKER_01 40:43

If you ran after them, that would be a very good story.

SPEAKER_02 40:46

I ran past them. You ran after them. And I just like shook my head, like you know, passive aggressively, just like shook my head. And I was like, I don't have patience for people that can't show just like common just niceties, I guess. Like just smile. Like just smile. That's all you need to do. I feel like if people, um now I'm getting on my soapbox. Maybe this is also a hill that I will die on. I feel like if people could just be a little bit friendlier, like we would all be in a much better place. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:16

A smile is huge, it makes you feel better. Yes, it makes the other people feel better.

SPEAKER_02 41:22

Well, it feels like a community, you know. And I just I don't have patience for that because I'm like, it literally takes, and I I've maybe this isn't true, but I've heard it before. I feel like it literally takes more effort to frown or whatever than to smile. I think I've heard that before. Yeah, like your muscles or something.

SPEAKER_01 41:38

Yeah. I don't I think that that's um tacky and rude. We need to put their names on here. I'm kidding.

SPEAKER_02 41:49

I did see them twice, then the second time they didn't. I was like, I don't even understand.

SPEAKER_01 41:53

How dare you do something that well, maybe their teeth had fallen out and they were afraid to smile.

SPEAKER_02 42:00

And we've walked before where we're like talking to each other. But if somebody says hi, you and I both will pause and be like, hey, yeah, and then keep going. Or wave little like to acknowledge them. Like, I don't know. Anyways, okay, okay. What do you have zero patience for?

SPEAKER_01 42:16

This is I would say I have zero patience for this. It's someone that makes plans with you and then it cancels for something else. Now, I have canceled, you have canceled, everybody's canceled, but we have an established relationship. And it's rare. And I think I'm referring more to someone that I know and I don't want to say who it is because it rhymes with. But it rhymes with um, but uh, you know, this this person has someone that makes plans with them pretty frequently, and then something better will come up. Yes. And then the person says, Oh, sorry, I forgot I had this, I forgot I had that. Yeah. And I don't have patience for it.

SPEAKER_02 43:14

Yeah. Like you're kind of already like, nope, then I'm done.

SPEAKER_01 43:18

I don't, I don't have time for that. Yeah. Like, I don't care if we make plans or not. Like, don't make plans.

SPEAKER_02 43:23

Also, like my schedule shouldn't have to revolve around your schedule. Yeah. Like the whole point of working together to get together is you take yours, I take mine, and we figure it out. Yeah. It doesn't ever need to be like, well, that doesn't work for like it needs to be two-sided.

SPEAKER_01 43:39

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 43:39

And I feel like there are people that sometimes think, well, this is when I can do it. Sorry if you you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_01 43:45

Or something better has come up. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 43:47

And I don't like that.

SPEAKER_01 43:48

You know, that's fine. But my time is valuable as well. Yes. And yep. I think that I think that's where That's my zero tolerance is that someone feeling that their time is more valuable than someone else's.

SPEAKER_02 44:07

Yep. Yep. Okay. Um if okay, this is kind of a totally we're going 180. Um, if someone read my mind during school pickup, they'd hear.

SPEAKER_01 44:20

I've got a couple. Um I was gonna say a joke, but I'm but I'm not. Um they would hear me sitting there trying to plan out the next few things that I'm trying to get done in Caroline. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, oh shoot, I gotta call this person, I gotta do that.

SPEAKER_02 44:41

Yep. Um, it depends on if it's, I guess this is school pickup, so I guess it's different. Um, they would hear me thinking, what is that person listening to in the car behind me? It's so loud. Whatever they're on the phone or they've got a podcast or something going on. That's fine. And clearly they cannot hear well because it's like their cars, like, like I can hear all of it. Like I that happens to me sometimes. Um they would also hear me as I roll up for Aaron to get in, be like, okay, mom mood needs to get back. Like prepping myself. And not that I'm not happy to see him, but it's like you have to shoot and be like, okay, now I've got to listen, I've got to talk, I've got to like, I'm like prepping myself for the kids to come back in. Yeah. So okay. If I had a full day alone, I would sleep.

SPEAKER_01 45:33

No.

SPEAKER_02 45:34

I would definitely sleep in.

SPEAKER_01 45:36

A full day alone, like nobody, no animals, no nothing.

SPEAKER_02 45:41

Oh gosh, zero responsibilities.

SPEAKER_01 45:44

I would get a massage. Okay. And then I would probably drink some wine and read my book. Yeah. And be very, very happy.

SPEAKER_02 45:56

I feel like I follow, I feel like I would also follow in those same footsteps. I would probably watch a show that I have been hearing about a lot and just have not taken the time to sit down and watch. I would probably do that too. Yeah. Would definitely sleep in for sure.

SPEAKER_01 46:10

I must that's a given. Yeah. I mean, that that doesn't matter who's there or not. I now on the weekend. Yeah. I get one day on the weekend. Yeah. I do not sleep in unless it's by accident. I know. That's quite the bummer.

SPEAKER_02 46:23

It's quite the bummer. Yeah. Okay. A social situation I secretly dread is confrontation. Yeah. Yeah. Knowing that there's going to be confrontation between two people and I'm going to be present for it. I dread it. It doesn't happen to me often, but I, if I know that it's going to be a rough, I talk about stomach tensed up like stress big time.

SPEAKER_01 46:53

I love those situations.

SPEAKER_02 46:56

Some people are.

SPEAKER_01 46:59

You know. Yeah. I don't want to be involved in that either. Um I kind of dread sometimes being around people at a social event that I don't like.

SPEAKER_02 47:11

Yeah. Yeah. That's a real thing.

SPEAKER_01 47:13

And then you have to, oh hey.

SPEAKER_02 47:16

Hey. Put on a face. I don't really care. I wish you guys could see her face too. Hi there. Good to see you. Yeah. Like dreading having to know that you have to just like play a role. Fake it. Mm-hmm. Because that's not fun. Okay. The version of me people see versus the real me is. Ooh. I actually said this earlier, and this is what I want to answer with here. The version of people, the version of me people see, I feel like, is somebody who, um, like I said, is pretty go with the flow, who can kind of um vic you'll be okay with whatever we decide, you know, whatever. And for the most part, that is totally accurate. Yeah. I think the version that the real me is inside saying, gosh, I never get to like everybody just thinks that I just want to do what they want to do. Or um, oh, the plan's already in place, like I don't have a say in it. The real me, if it could come out sometimes, and I feel like it's coming out more now, would be to be like, I don't really want to do that, and be okay with saying that, knowing that it might upset somebody, or that they may be like, oh um, yeah, the stubborn part of me, I feel like. I I feel that too.

SPEAKER_01 48:30

Yeah. Um do you know the movie? Um it's with Amy Schumer. It's called I Feel Pretty.

SPEAKER_02 48:39

I don't know that movie, but yeah.

SPEAKER_01 48:42

Do you know who Amy Schumer is? Yeah. So she hits her head. Okay. And um she's always wanted to be pretty, so she hits her head and she uh suddenly sees that she's this gorgeous supermodel.

SPEAKER_02 48:58

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 48:58

And she's walking down the street, and this this is um the version that I think people see of me. And she she's like, she walks down and she stands by this other model and she's like, Isn't it awesome that girls like you and I can shop at Target and still look fly as hell? And I think that's what people think of me. I walk by in my workout clothes and they're like, dang, she still looks fly as hell. And then on the inside, I'm like, no, no.

SPEAKER_02 49:34

I you are super fashionable. Oh, no, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 49:39

I am for sure. I am a today, you're in your mess, like workout stuff, but you know, but I was kidding about that other part. No, I I think I agree with what you're saying. Like I'm really go with the flow, honestly, in a in most situations, but but I feel like you sometimes I do want to say no and say, let's just sit here, yeah, instead. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 50:05

But um, yeah, but um I think I I think I'm secretly um stubborn and um and then I think I also let myself get upset when I let other people do that, but like they don't know that I'm feeling that it's my fault, you know what I mean? For not like for not like saying something, but yeah, no, definitely. I've I've got a I've got a stubborn streak in me for real. Okay, right now I need more oh time. Yeah. Oh, that's a good one. Yeah, I think that's me too. I'm gonna sell your answer. I like that. Okay, my current obsession is my plants.

SPEAKER_01 50:53

My plants.

SPEAKER_02 50:54

I love them so much. Yeah. Uh my current obsession is Ella Langley. I've talked about her a lot. Like a lot of my favorite songs of the past weeks have been her. So her new album came out. Yeah. And I just think she's so cool. And I I'm obsessed with her. I listen to her music a lot. So you listen to her. Yeah. Um, okay. We are going to end there and we're gonna move to our favorite part of the week.

SPEAKER_01 51:25

So, favorite part of the week, Carrie. Okay, so this ties in with something that I talked about earlier. I wouldn't, it's not exactly this week, but it has to do with a game. Okay, that me and my kids have all played, and it's awesome. And it's called Piles P-I-L-E-S. And you can all play. Colton's really good at it now. Colton is my nine-year-old. Um, and you can play old people to young, and it's quick. Yeah. And it's fun. Is it a card game? It's a card game, and you're making piles of cards. And it's it's really easy. Like, I can't explain it because it won't make sense.

SPEAKER_02 52:08

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 52:08

If you don't have the game, but it's really fun.

SPEAKER_02 52:11

Okay. You're you are a game maholic right now. Yeah. But I love it. And you're really good at explaining games, like how to play them. I feel like I would not be good at explaining a game.

SPEAKER_01 52:21

This one I'm not good at. No. Okay. It has to be demonstrated, I feel like.

SPEAKER_02 52:25

Okay, yeah. And sometimes you have to like go through a round of a game and like like we were playing phase 10 the other night with some friends, and you were like, let's this round doesn't count. We're just gonna do it and we're gonna it's like mahjong for the love, mahjong. Okay, my 500 times to finally understand what I'm doing. And Holly's a good, she's been a good instructor.

SPEAKER_01 52:46

She is very good, she's very patient, she knows the rules. You and I are just we know them kind of. Like we can go play with other people.

SPEAKER_02 52:54

I agree. I feel like I am aware enough that I could play and not feel like a total loser.

SPEAKER_01 52:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 53:00

Um, most of the time.

SPEAKER_01 53:01

Do you do you know what I found out about Maijong that someone told me? I don't know if it wasn't you, I don't think. But if you're playing it around and you make some kind of mistake, okay, you can be kicked out. Like in the real rules, you get kicked out.

SPEAKER_02 53:16

I want to play with people that follow that role though.

SPEAKER_01 53:19

I couldn't believe it. So you'd have to sit there for a round, like for them to finish the game. Like, that's mean. Like, why would I even want to play that? Because I would get kicked out every yeah. But you know what? We play with people that are like, eh, it's fine.

SPEAKER_02 53:34

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 53:34

So if you're that serious with Maijon, please don't invite me.

SPEAKER_02 53:38

Do for real, dude. I don't want to, I do not need that pressure in my life. Like, I just do not. Okay. I've got a couple. Obviously, Reese being born is a favorite of the part of the week, but I've already talked about that. But she's adorable and I love her so much. And I've already bought her a lot of pink stuff, so we are good. Um, this past weekend on Saturday, Trent, Aiden, and I went out to Stillwater, and we got to go to the Cross Canadian Ragweed concert. That's awesome. Which is so cool. Like Stillwater is like kind of the music capital of like the Midwest, I feel like. Like red dirt country, and like just like a lot of cool people have come from there. So Cross Canadian Ragweed, obviously. Uh Garth Brooks is cool there. Yeah. No, I did not know that. They just like they have Eli Youngband, I think, is from there. So a lot of country, but like just like it's like legit. Yeah. Um, so we went to see them. Um, they were they were good. They were actually not our favorite part of the concert. Um, my target was like, he's like, they're just old. And I'm like, yeah.

unknown 54:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 54:47

Yeah, they are. Once again, back to like we are aging. Therefore, they are so they are also aging. I mean, they were fun, but um, there were a few different like turned by troubadours was there, and then we also um there's a young guy. Okay, this goes back to my when I felt like I was old or getting older. Um, there's a young guy, his name is Wyatt Flores, and he has some really good music. Aiden really likes him. And I actually knew some of his songs because Aiden's been listening to them or had me listen to him. He's up there singing, and I look over at Aiden, I'm like, he looks like a little child. He looks like he's 12 up there. And Aiden's like, well, he's probably like early 20s. And I'm like, Are you sure? Oh my gosh. 24. He is 24. And I told Trent that and I said, I go, here's your sign that you're getting older that these 24-year-olds look like they're 12-year-olds. Yes. Oh my gosh. Like, I he was so good though. He was awesome. He actually was awarded like an Oklahoma Music Hall of Fame like award. Like uh Cody Canada from Cross Canadian Ragway came out and like helped present. So it was really cool. He was like emotional. It was really cool. Um, we had a it was a really fun time. Um, second, I really like airy stuff. Like, do you buy this?

SPEAKER_01 56:04

You know, I have bought it for my girls. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 56:07

Yeah. I buy it myself.

SPEAKER_01 56:08

Who are you though? Walmart. Dude, that true story.

SPEAKER_02 56:11

Okay. True, true story on that. We yeah, the boys get have much more expensive closets, I feel like, than I do. Um no, I, but I do like, I really like their bathing suits. Most of my bathing suits during the summer are from them. Okay. Um they are very giving, forgiving, and nice. Um, but I just we are going to Annapolis this next weekend. And you're going next weekend? Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. Um, and I ordered, it's called the Airy Crochet Quarter Zip. So I'll show you because I'm sitting. Yeah, let me see. But um Oh, that's cute. Yeah. So it's so cute.

SPEAKER_01 56:47

It's basically got like little holes. I love that.

SPEAKER_02 56:51

Did you get it in that color? I did.

SPEAKER_01 56:52

That's pretty.

SPEAKER_02 56:53

So I got it as just kind of like to wear, because like while we're there, it's gonna be like springtime temp. So like I can put that over a tank top and jeans or you know, whatever. And it'll look cute. But it came and it like fits really good and sits, like, I don't know. I just I am never so cute. I'm hardly ever disappointed in airy clothes.

SPEAKER_01 57:10

I think their stuff is really nice.

SPEAKER_02 57:12

I think it's cute. Like crazy expensive either, you know, like it's mid.

SPEAKER_01 57:16

Yeah, it's mid, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 57:18

Um, okay. I so those are my favorite parts of the week. Okay. Um, and then I'm gonna give you my song of the week. And this are you familiar with Cross Canadian Ragweed? Have you listened to much of their music?

SPEAKER_01 57:30

I'm gonna say no.

SPEAKER_02 57:31

Tell the truth, please. And say no. Okay. Um so they have one song and it's called Carney Man, and he's basically this is my song of the week, and Aaron loves it. Oh he's basically singing about how he wants to join the circus in this song. It's goofy. Like the first line is like, I want big red shoes, or I want a big red nose, I want to wear floppy shoes. Like, it's just really funny. But at the end, he says very clearly, he goes, What I've learned, this job, it really sucks. And like he says that, and Aaron, like he usually doesn't say that word to me. It's not like a horrible word to say, but he loves singing that part, and he likes to say that word very loudly in the car. It's been a bad word for the boys, for the little boys. And I just I let him say it because I'm like, it's part of a song, and also like it's in my mind, it's not like super bad, but it's funny, it's funny. If you just want to listen to it, like it just I definitely will. It'll put a smile to your face. But anyways, friend, okay, that was an hour. Um, thank you for being here.

SPEAKER_01 58:36

Oh my gosh, thank you for having me. I love coming here and getting to do this.

SPEAKER_02 58:40

Yeah, I like getting, I like that you are with me through these changes. Me too. For the good and the bad.

SPEAKER_01 58:48

Me too.

SPEAKER_02 58:48

You need somebody who is you need somebody that's not your husband.

SPEAKER_01 58:53

Because no kidding. Yes, God love him.

SPEAKER_02 58:56

Trent Trent is he is at a loss for words sometimes. I am too, but um, yeah. Anyways, have a mom's perspective, yes, on things. Somebody that's like just has either been through it or going through it or flowing through it. So um, I hope you guys enjoyed this episode. I hope that you um can relate. I know that a lot of people can. So uh we will see you next time. Bye. Bye.