The Republic's Self-Inflicted Downfall | Star Wars Lore

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For 25,000 years, the Galactic Republic stood as a beacon of democracy, but its eventual collapse wasn't just the work of the Sith—it was an inside job. In this episode of Acceptable Losses, DK, Kirioth, and PancreasNoWork join the table to break down how the Republic and the Jedi Order effectively orchestrated their own doom. We dive deep into the extreme disarmament of the Ruusan Reformations, how the Senate abandoned the Outer Rim to pirates, and how corporate entities literally bought their way into galactic politics. We also explore the Jedi's catastrophic fall from grace—transforming from mystical peacekeepers into corrupt political lackeys who rubber-stamped war crimes and directly created villains like General Grievous. By the time Order 66 was issued, the Republic had already become an oppressive war machine. Turns out, when it came to blindly enforcing the will of a corrupt Senate, the Jedi were just following orders.

Transcript

SPEAKER_04 0:15

Welcome everyone to another episode of the Acceptable Losses Podcast, where normally Kyriath sends us into an absolute tizzy of bad vibes, but today Pancreas No Work is here. He's great. He's got the reins today. Pancreas! What are we doing today? Also, hello, Kyrioth. How are you doing? Lovely to see you. It's just, I'm just throwing the ball right to Pancreas, because, you know, the thing and the stuff.

SPEAKER_01 0:39

Lovely. All good. Pancreas, I'm throwing it to you. I'm doing pretty fun past, dude.

SPEAKER_00 0:47

I'm doing pretty damn all right. Thanks for having me. And you know, today is I'm gonna blame Possum too for this because he's enabling me as well. Uh Star Wars. Star Wars, baby. Hmm.

SPEAKER_04 1:00

So schedule. I I I looked at the schedule and I was like, oh, it's a Star Wars episode with Pancreas. And I'm like, that can mean so many things. Like, surely he's not gonna cover the prequel trilogy, the main trilogy, and the sequel trilogy in one episode, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:17

No, that would be that would not only be utterly insane for sanity and respect for our free time. Uh also I the fact you included the sequel trilogy, I'd look is what what are you what are you on about, sir?

SPEAKER_04 1:32

I mean, okay. I I will say at the very least, the Force Awakens was like fine.

SPEAKER_00 1:40

Sure was sure was a new hope, but worse.

SPEAKER_04 1:44

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 1:45

It was just like a modern retelling of a new hope, but like it's like it was fine. In a vacuum, it was okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:52

Yeah, it's it's fine. Is it the greatest thing since sliced bread? It's uh it's it's not even it's not even the wheat forming the pre- it was fine. The movies after it. Oh boy.

SPEAKER_00 2:04

Also, I was uh was 16 when that came out, so I am a little blinded by nostalgia. Also, man, I said that out loud and I'm not a fan of that. Wait, hang on. Wait, when The Force Awakens came out, you were sixteen? When did that come out in 2014 or 15? The Force Awakens?

SPEAKER_04 2:22

Wasn't that like god they call me?

SPEAKER_01 2:25

Please. No, please tell me it's not that old already. It's 2015. Yeah, I was I was sixteen.

SPEAKER_04 2:34

So normally, normally the existential dread on these episodes is from the grim dark fantasy that that carrioth or you or someone tells it's not supposed to be real.

SPEAKER_00 2:47

Yeah, you know, I had a whole lot of theming about how I was, you know, I planned, you know, because Star Wars can be pretty dark depending on how you look at it, but you're right, man. I was uh hmm. I was going into this thinking it'd be like at least halfway through before I was just upset with what I was talking about. But no, we start that off immediately. Great.

SPEAKER_04 3:05

2015, shut the fuck up.

SPEAKER_01 3:08

That's genuinely upset me. That's uh I'm sadder than I was two minutes ago.

SPEAKER_00 3:18

Oh okay, so uh, you know, maybe after this I'm just gonna take a walk.

SPEAKER_04 3:25

Yeah, right out the window for me. It's just it's just oh. Alright.

SPEAKER_00 3:31

Uh other other than this flashbang I've accidentally uh tossed into the tossed into the circle. Uh we're uh no, it's uh it's prequel trilogy uh era, a little bit before, during, and you know, right after. Because as much as the prequels also aren't the best movies, let's let's be honest with ourselves.

SPEAKER_04 3:53

Uh oh, for sure. They they they're held up I I maintain that they're all held up by one absolutely incredible fight, but go on.

SPEAKER_00 4:01

I would say I would say more than one. Uh but uh they they have they had some they had some sauce to them because clearly people are still talking about them and as opposed to they fly now. And they tell the story of how a several millennia-long uh government and civilization, quite frankly, went from you know, a bastion of, you know, peace, justice, democracy, all that, into the the like iconic oppressive empire of all of fiction. As much there are a lot of those, but if you see, you know, it's I mean, if you see, you know, a sci-fi setting with an oppressive evil empire, chances are you were drawing from Star Wars when you made that, right?

SPEAKER_04 4:50

There's a solid chance. Well, Star Wars are like Dune or something, but like everybody everybody draws from Dune, like whatever. But yeah, it's either Dune or Star Wars, right?

SPEAKER_00 4:59

Yeah, it's either Dune or Star Wars. Star Wars itself, at least certainly for the uh original trilogy, was drawing from Dune a bit as well, Tatooine is Sandy for a reason.

SPEAKER_04 5:09

Yeah, I was gonna say more than a bit, but yeah, go on, King.

SPEAKER_00 5:12

Yeah. Uh but the original uh or pardon me, the prequels tell the story of, again, the Republic and how it went from the shining bastion of hope in the galaxy to the worst thing ever. And I thought I would bring that bring that to the table today. And Okay, I I was not expecting prequel trilogy today. Let's go. No, I look the the prequel trilogy, I think the best era of Star Wars. Every when you move away from I Hate Sand, was kind of cooking.

SPEAKER_04 5:47

It's coarse and it gets everywhere. Yeah, I mean, the there are very memorable things about every prequel trilogy movie. So, you know, I'm I'm anxious for this. This is this is good. I've watched them all numerous times.

SPEAKER_00 6:00

This is gonna be fun. Yeah, and I hope you're all appreciative of this. Only as much mention of General Grievous as is strictly necessary.

SPEAKER_01 6:11

Before you arrived, I was like, is it gonna be is it just gonna be a General Grievous episode? Because I'd be fine with that. We did have our conversation.

SPEAKER_00 6:20

It will be talking about the fall of the Republic. It will be about the fall of the Republic. He will come up a little bit, but I was able to hold myself off and make an actual cohesive episode that isn't just God, isn't he the coolest thing ever?

SPEAKER_04 6:34

I mean, he kind of is, though.

SPEAKER_00 6:35

Like I'm not even I don't have a dog in the fight, and he is really fucking cool. He's pretty rad. He's pretty rad. Uh but with that, shall we begin? Let's shall.

SPEAKER_04 6:46

Also, this is just prequel trilogy. This isn't like the Clone Wars animated uh show, right? Because technically speaking, that's prequel trilogy era.

SPEAKER_00 6:54

So this is the lead up to the fall. What we'll be talking about is the fall of the Republic. The lead up to it, the uh the few hundred years. I know that sounds like a lot, but remember it is Star Wars scale hundred of years that that will be breezed through relatively quickly. Uh the we will go through the Clone Wars and we will talk about how through its own incompetence and corruption, the Republic became the Empire.

unknown 7:21

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 7:22

So prologue. I have even you know, you may uh imagine in your head the Star Wars text crawl, you all know what it is. I will not I will not insult you by saying you do not know that the theme is not you don't know you know what it is. So for a thousand years, the Republic had been guided by the Rusan Reformations. It had laid down its arms, the Jedi reformed their order, peace ruled, and it was good. Nothing lasts forever, though. As the centuries went on, the civilization that had triumphed over evil itself had begun wallowing in its own corruption. Politics, bureaucracy, and more drowned the common man of the galaxy under the weight of the core worlds, and as the breaking point came, even those began buckling under the weight. The Senate was worse than useless, the people were left to themselves, basically, and even the Jedi, who are the ultimate good basically ever, had started losing their way. And over the course of three years, all of this came to a head as the Clone Wars drew the curtain on a twenty five thousand-year-old Republic. And while we all, you know, we're again we are familiar with what happens, the machinations of the Sith are what ultimately caused the downfall. The Republic and the Jedi alike in many ways only had themselves to blame for what happened to them. If only they could have seen it. If only they could have foreseen what was coming. If only they watched Star Wars in Star Wars, they would have known.

unknown 8:46

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 8:47

Blinded to the dark side, crazy.

SPEAKER_00 8:50

So with that, we have part one, and I will be honest, there are a few quotes in this episode. Oh, so we got our work cut out for us. Okay. I this is I did make sure, you know, everyone would have some part. And so with that, Kirioth, would you mind saying this first quote for me? Absolutely. I mean, no, I wouldn't mind. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 9:16

There is important legislation on the table that could change the face of the Republic forever. The Lorum wants to discuss it with me before the Senate votes, and this legislation will affect the Jedi as well. It will, in ways you cannot even begin to imagine. Valentine Farfallah and Johun Othon. That's probably not how I pronounce that, is it?

SPEAKER_00 9:36

I there's it's Star Wars names. However, if you can get the word out, I'm sure it's correct in some regard.

SPEAKER_01 9:42

Do we have any quotes from Salacious Crumb?

SPEAKER_00 9:45

Because if someone So I actually have somewhere important to be right now that isn't here. Uh now that you've mentioned that creature.

SPEAKER_01 9:54

I apologize, I take it back.

unknown 10:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:01

Well, no, the greatest name is the fact that the music in the cantina is Jizz music, if you weren't aware. Oh it's so bad. Why? Why though? Anyway, prequel trilogies, eh, right? Yeah. None there's none of that. Thank Christ. Uh part one. Uh Rotting Reformations. I have gone even to the credit of George is a pure man. He's pure something. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Uh giving them all fancy names, though. So with that, the new Sith Wars range from approximately 2000 BBY, the Battle Before Yavin, which is the date in Star Wars that we know of. I don't I don't believe there is an in-universe calendar before Empire. Well, there is, but every time I ask someone about it, no one has an answer for me. So 2000 Battle Before Yavin to 1000 Battle Before Yavin was how long the Republican Jedi were fighting the Sith at the some of the worst fighting in the galaxy. It was a thousand years of on and off conflict as good versus evil raged, classic Star Wars stuff. And it ended with the Sith being resoundingly defeated. The remnants descended into infighting as they all essentially blame each other for why they nearly crushed the Republic and then were crushed themselves. And as far as the Jedi and Republic cared, they were they were extinct now. So the Rusan Reformation I had mentioned was then implemented. It was noble in purpose, and it was basically the most extreme disarmament in the history of the galaxy for the purposes of what we're talking about. The Republic, depending on if you're going legends or canon, because I'm drawing a little bit from both, either replaced its navy with a purely defensive fleet, kind of like the Coast Guard, or just got rid of it, no more. The army was disbanded and the Jedi themselves cut down on different ranks. There used to be a rank called Jedi Lord, for example, that was purely military in focus. That was done away with. And the Jedi placed their actions in the wider galaxy under the Supreme Chancellor and the Judiciary Branch of the Republic. Just to show everyone that, hey, we know there was quite a bit of fighting going on, but we're not going to become a conquering army. You don't need to we're the Jedi are not going to suddenly just bulldoze into the set and be like, hey, I think uh a change of pace is in order. They were they were sh they were, you know, were they were chilling out along with everyone else. And at the time, this was valid. This was this was by and large a good decision. After centuries of fighting the Sith, in fact, just about a thousand years, the Republic wanted and quite frankly needed the break. There was little need for such things anyway by this point. The Sith were defeated, and as far as they knew, extinct. The Mandalorians had been long since dealt with in their every now and again deciding to take on the whole galaxy shtick that uh it had been a while since they did that and seemed to be that seemed to be over. And even the Huts by this point, they uh they had stopped their own empire building for the most part, and settled into, you know, mostly just organized crime. Not great, but in terms of threats to the Republic, you don't need you don't need the Jedi Lord to be swinging on in lightsaber first.

SPEAKER_01 13:17

Not ideal, but still an improvement.

SPEAKER_00 13:20

It's not ideal, but you know, it's the difference between, you know, hey kid, you want to buy some death sticks and hey kid, the hut fleet is over Coruscant. You know, one of one of those you don't need the military quite as much for. Best case scenario.

SPEAKER_04 13:34

Not ideal, but uh best case scenario, sure.

SPEAKER_00 13:37

Yeah, you can work on that legally as opposed to violently. Um but this all had set the stage for what was to come. So part two is uh isolation and ignorance and DK, all of these uh start with a quote. I would like you to read this one now, if you if you wouldn't mind. Well, I I I I get to be isolation and ignorance. That's crazy, brother. I was kidding. You know, I I apologize for that. You know, I uh I'm gonna be honest, I was having I was having too much fun coming up with names for the plot points, and I did not think about that. My bad. No, it's okay. This is this is one of those he's out of order.

SPEAKER_01 14:18

He's right, but he's out of order. Anyway, it was entirely subliminal. It just it wasn't even intangible, it just happened through sheer force of reality.

SPEAKER_04 14:29

Anyway, quote, insolence, we are pirates. We don't even know what that means. Open fire.

SPEAKER_00 14:37

So as much as that quote is probably the funniest moment in all of Star Wars, uh it is also a result of the Republic not being great after a while. Uh the fact that an idiot like Hondo Wanaka is allowed to exist is a sign that public's not doing so hot.

SPEAKER_03 14:57

No.

SPEAKER_00 14:58

So not having basically any form of military did help planets out in a lot of ways, especially early on right after the Rusan Reformations. It ensured that the, you know, the highest echelons of the Republic, for example, might have a harder time enforcing their will on less powerful planets and people. The core world can't just send the fleet after you to some random planet in the mid-rim because you you know th they're annoyed but you didn't vote the way they wanted you to, right? Mm-hmm. And the Jedi not having military ranks and becoming basically the army judiciary meant that they were either only interfering in politics if something truly horrible happened, because if you're calling on the Jedi, this better be important, or they were able to, you know, properly dedicate themselves to the force is the more ben monastic order they're supposed to be.

SPEAKER_03 15:47

For hundreds of years, there's no army at this point. There's no like law keeping.

SPEAKER_04 15:53

So like you can have like pirate uprisings and it's like, well, who cares? What are you gonna do to stop me? The Jedi don't do that. We're not causing that much ooze.

SPEAKER_00 16:02

Yeah. For hundreds of years, it mostly went on as ideally as you could hope it would. But while even after the first few hundred years, the core worlds would be just fine and prospered even further than they did before, because no one is sending half of your tax bill to Kuwait driveyards, other planets weren't so lucky. Uh the farther you get from Coruscant and Star Wars, essentially, the worse things get for people. Uh as you get to the midrim, even and the outer rim, the immense wealth of the core worlds is simply not found. The planetary defense forces of these regions, they are shadows of those in the core and even the inner midrim, frankly. These planets were paying Republic taxes for benefits that basically only people in the inner portions of the Star Wars galaxy were ever going to see a shadow of a benefit from. And in exchange, they received nothing. Uh the core world. Yep. Yep. The core worlds in many ways would have to would would just they would draw in on themselves. They would isolate a little bit and enjoy the benefits of being the hub of the galaxy-wide republic, while the outer rim planets without a fleet to defend them fell victim to piracy, slavery, and all sorts of horrible things like that. Uh the I'm fairly sure, to be honest with you, that the natural state of the Wookiees is being enslaved. Which is very unfortunate, but every time they show up, it it is someone is going to free them from someone else. It is never Kashyyk is doing okay.

SPEAKER_01 17:41

Is it is it a bit of the uh what is it? Is it like Wharf syndrome or whatever, where you you take the ones that are really strong and capable, and then you make them the ones who are beaten up constantly to show how bad things have got? Is that just the Wookiee existence?

SPEAKER_00 17:55

It's that I think it I think it's also that, and a Kashyik is apparently in the same planetary system as uh Trandosha, and Trandoscians are uh the a slave race. Like Trandoscians just love taking slaves. Ah they're in the same system, apparently. So yeah, the the natural state of the Wookiee is to be enslaved, and that is very unfortunate because it they're Wookiees, man.

SPEAKER_04 18:23

Chewy is enslaved in solo, right? And Han has to help him out because he spoke a little bit of the language, right?

SPEAKER_00 18:31

I think I think in Legends and Canon, yeah, Chewbacca is in chains before Han solo frees him. God so shice. It's also a sign the glorious free Democratic Republic tolerating horrific slavery because the Dao's at 70,000, baby. Let's go. Yeah. Unironically that. Yeah. The core worlds were doing great, and everyone else can get bent. Lovely. And uh response to cries for help would sometimes be met. The Republic did have that judiciary fleet, but just as often it wouldn't be responded to, even fairly close to the core worlds. Out in the farthest reaches of space, planets that were nominally part of the Republic were almost always just left to their own devices. And they had to hope they could either fly under the radar of all of the different groups of people that want to take their stuff and put them in chains, or they could hope they were able to amass enough wealth on their own to either make their own defenses or pay someone else to defend their planet. Many could not do that. Yeah, and as for what it looks like in the, you know, in the Senate, like I was saying, uh, the Senate, alongside the Chancellor, supposed to be democratic and the just governing body, were becoming more and more detached. Aside from, you know, the aforementioned leaving the outer rim on its own, the Chancellor, for example, had basically become a rubber stamp. The Supreme Chancellor had almost zero power. The Senate held all the cards, and to be quite frank, by Senate, I mean the corporations backing the Senate held all of the cards. Uh resources were put into corporate pockets regularly in exchange for senators getting a cut of the pay. And what was supposed to represent the people of the galaxy instead represented the bank accounts of basically whatever interest group had enough money to buy their to buy their good words. I sure do love talking about fiction.

SPEAKER_04 20:21

Yeah, yeah, it's I was like, we're still talking about the fictional Star Wars universe, right?

SPEAKER_00 20:30

I think I need to apologize to George for saying mean things about the prequel trilogy.

SPEAKER_04 20:37

There was a message here that maybe we didn't understand the children.

SPEAKER_00 20:41

Yeah. Yeah, little did I know he was right. Yeah. Um the the Jedi, meanwhile, were also growing lesser. Uh in the new role of operating as the judiciary arm of the republic, they'd become isolated from the common man because they're only ever going out there basically when the judges say to, and enamored in the politics of the Republic, while simultaneously, somehow, not really paying proper attention to these politics. And as this kind of corruption grew, it only made the Jedi worse and worse in these ways. Uh there are, as I said, a few quotes, so Kirioth, if you wouldn't mind reading, a fairly long one.

SPEAKER_01 21:21

The Jedi Order's problem is Yoda. No being can wield that kind of power for centuries without becoming complacent at best or corrupt at worst. He has no idea that it's overtaken him. He no longer sees all the little cumulative evils that the Republic tolerates and fosters, from slavery to endless wars, and he never asks, Why are we not acting to stop this? Live alongside corruption for too long, and you no longer notice the stench. The Jedi cannot help the slaves of Tatooine, but they can help the slave masters.

SPEAKER_00 22:00

Kinda cooking.

SPEAKER_04 22:02

Yeah. Yeah. Well, is this quote when he's still Jedi and uh he's shadow one?

SPEAKER_00 22:10

He's Count Dooku at this point. He is uh he has left the Jedi Order. Oh, okay. I believe this was this this was uh around when he was becoming uh you know Palpatine's number two.

SPEAKER_07 22:22

He's not gonna be amazing. I mean he's he's right though.

SPEAKER_00 22:24

Like I'm pretty sure I I I love some of these images. There's so many like Star Wars propaganda things people came in their off the wear. It's so good.

SPEAKER_04 22:38

He's kind of right though.

SPEAKER_00 22:39

Like, I mean, he's not terribly off base with like, you know, you know, he's the Jedi, they are supposed to be the ultimate judges. They're supposed to be like the final legal line of defense, basically. Like, no one can figure out like what's happening or something like truly horrific happened. The order of space monks dedicated to you know inner peace and knowing the way of the universe, you'd think they would be a good organization to go to. And early on, maybe that was the case. But they were falling into much the same traps as the Republic itself. In a lot of cases, they weren't investigating, you know, the toughest of court cases or the most horrific crimes. They were the lackeys of the Senate. And Jedi Knight Dooku was sent on one such mission, and he found this out the hard way as what was supposed to be. The kidnapping of a senator's son basically turned out to be a senator bulldozing his way through an innocent town to reclaim his child that had run away. Um and had Dooku not dealt with this senator, and Dooku learned the magic of force choke in this uh in this point of his life, fun fact.

SPEAKER_07 23:47

Fun fact, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:49

Yeah. And uh the the the the there had to be a new senatorial representative a little bit after this. Uh this would have been, had that not happened, another case of the Senate bullying and murdering those underneath them for their own gain, because that senator was going to wipe out the town because they were not giving him what he wanted.

SPEAKER_01 24:09

Aaron Ross Powell Are we suggesting here that a a religious institution that is supposed to hold some sort of moral high ground might be in some way uh party to similar corruption as everywhere else, which again is a completely fictional thing and luckily has no mirror in real life, th th thankfully.

SPEAKER_00 24:29

No, no, no. Please, that would never occur in real life. God. Oh no. The Jedi weren't weren't always on such extreme missions. They were still the Jedi. They are still in universe and out, frankly, like the good guys ever. But many of these missions played out just like this. The order that was supposed to be detached from politics instead became, in many ways, the arm of the Senate's corrupt dealings. And DK, we're now on to part three, Separatist Showdown. Oh boy. A quote, if you wouldn't mind. Oh no, because I'm Jedi Evil. Oh my god, that one is Wow. Wow.

SPEAKER_04 25:14

There's a lot of crazy holy shit. Anyway, the quote The Jedi have been my family since I was a child, the temple my home, but my future lies here on Sereno. Count Duku.

SPEAKER_00 25:31

Yep, he is now Count Duku. So, in order to keep themselves safe, many organizations would form in the outer rim. Uh, basically, with all these pirates, they realized after a few hundred years of being ignored that tomorrow probably wasn't going to magically bring about the Republic Fleet to come save the day. One such organization, formed in 232 BBY, over 750 years since the reforms, was the Trade Federation. It was initially an organized coalition to just keep free trade going and more importantly, safe from the rampant piracy. And by and large, it was probably a good thing to exist at first. In areas with the Trade Federation's influence, piracy saw a market decrease, and people could actually, you know, live their lives and not get highway robbed. Uh two problems would come about of this, however. The least flashy was just the increase in power and influence that groups like the Trade Federation would get. It eventually became so powerful that this Federation had its own representatives in the Senate. This was not a planet or a group of planets, but now it's just pure corporate interests that now have their direct vote in galactic politics, on top of all the bribery. This this is not they're now not bribing people, they're now bribing people and have their own votes as well.

SPEAKER_04 26:52

Hooray. This is all so happy. I love my fantasy space laser sword movies.

SPEAKER_00 27:01

I sure love Duel of the Fates. Yeah. The second and more flashy problem is more simple. If you want to keep peace and all these trade lanes secure, you need something to protect all those planets and the hyperspace routes, which means you need yourself some military forces. So the Trade Federation started building battleships. Others, such as the Techno Union, built battle droids. And eventually, and you know, with a bit of help from good old Palperoni with Chief, the Trade Federation had a had a had a bit of a realization that they had more military power than the entirety of the Galactic Republic. As as as some companies. What if we used all that military power? Yeah. Roger Roger. Yeah. Roger Roger, indeed. So uh Oh boy. I just wrote in all caps for this bit of the script war.

SPEAKER_04 28:01

I mean, that that is that is what happens.

SPEAKER_00 28:03

I mean, uh so the Trade Federation blockading Naboo, which aside again from being a rather boring plot point in uh The Phantom Menace, because again, I was here for a laser fight, sir, and you're giving me politics I I didn't realize was so on brand. Was the was the tipping point. Sorry, go on. Oh no, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:24

I still remember, like, I don't think I fully twigged what the opening scroll was for that film until years later, like watching it again and being like, wow, that so the the start of this really was just following a trade dispute. What a wild decision to make to start another trilogy of a Star Wars.

SPEAKER_00 28:50

I, you know, kind of like I said at the start, didn't realize that for world building George was cooking for the purposes of a mainline Star Wars movie, a little overcooked.

unknown 29:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 29:02

Take it out sooner, please.

SPEAKER_00 29:04

Yeah. Aside from, man, this was this was definitely a little boring to see as a five-year-old. The this was a tipping point. The corporate interests were now so powerful that they could just just blockade one of the most influential planets in the whole republic and get away with it. Uh the Republic could do nothing, and that's assuming any senators would do something in favor of lining their pockets. Uh it took the Jedi's, you know, the Jedi orders direct intervention to do anything, and I still think it's telling that initially they were going to negotiate rather than tell what amounted to a bunch of jumped-up bankers that just fuck off.

SPEAKER_04 29:40

Yeah. Initially it was going to be negotiations, short negotiations.

SPEAKER_00 29:45

The negotiations were short. Yeah, you were right. There's going to be a lot of that. I'm not apologizing for it. I I I I expect it and I welcome it. Indeed. Uh though, of course, you know, the day was save again, mainline Star Wars movie. The incident on the boot proved just how far the Republic had fallen by this point and how unprepared they were for everything that was to come. Uh the Trade Federation and plenty of other corporations like it had the power to just blockade a world, invade it, everyone on it is now under their control. And even if they lost, you know, they they still get away scot-free. Because if you remember, there's like 15 years between uh a Phantom Menace and Attack the Clones. Like there was there was nothing punished. Yeah, there's still things that happened to them after the fact. It's crazy. Newt Gunray is still perfectly free by the time he's, you know, f in that little Geonosis arena. Nothing happened to him in between those movies.

SPEAKER_04 30:46

I don't think that ever really dawned on me that like nothing happened to them after their very illegal blockade of Nebu. It's like in my head, in my head as a kid, I was always just like, I was like, oh yeah, he must have gotten killed in one of those like ship explosions or something, or they must have imprisoned him. It's like, nope. Nope.

SPEAKER_00 31:05

A whole lot of people died. Uh gave the government a middle finger. Didn't matter. Not in the sweet.

SPEAKER_01 31:20

Now that was not on. Didn't even get that. He's just it's just off doing whatever he likes. It's fine.

SPEAKER_04 31:26

Oh yeah, sure. They did they that's true. They probably did kill just a shitload of people as well. Sure.

SPEAKER_00 31:31

Oh yeah. Uh just there were battle droids in the streets. They're battle droids. They're not discriminant.

SPEAKER_05 31:39

No.

SPEAKER_00 31:41

The uh the third law of robotics is I don't think that exists in Star Wars, to be frank with you.

SPEAKER_01 31:47

Or if it did, they're unshoot on site. That's their third law. And they emphasize that law.

SPEAKER_00 31:55

If it did exist, it left around the time someone built HK-47, about 4,000 years before the trilogy takes place.

SPEAKER_04 32:05

Also, Shai said, I think he got paroled for killing Gungans, which was seen as a favorite of the galaxy. Damn, Shema.

SPEAKER_06 32:14

Jeez.

SPEAKER_00 32:16

Newt Gunnery was a hero. I just couldn't see it.

SPEAKER_04 32:20

Well, but they didn't get Jar Jar. Like Gungans are fine.

SPEAKER_01 32:23

It's you know, it's Jar Jar that annoys people, right? Newt Gunray was right. Is that no?

SPEAKER_04 32:31

Oh no. Oh, please move us along.

SPEAKER_00 32:35

Oh dear.

SPEAKER_04 32:36

Oh no. Anyways.

SPEAKER_00 32:38

Anyways, uh yeah, Republic is near worthless at this point. Yeah. And uh, as for the Jedi, the Sith, once thought to be defeated, were clearly still here. Uh in the realm of the Run, you know, so oh good, this uh space Satans are back. And in the realm of the mundane, the various entities of the galaxy had the power to just run roughshod over the Republic, meant to, you know, keep people safe. And the greatest villains of the galaxy are apparently helping all those corporations. But this time, they're a secretive, undetectable cancer on the Republic. Uh the dark side shadow has fallen, the force was clouded because as much as uh it's kind of like just br both brushed by and joked upon, the Jedi are losing their connection to the force, which is not a good sign when your peacekeeping, you know, kindly m order of monks is losing their connection to their very physically noticeable religion, that's problematic, that's worrying. And it's only going to get worse.

unknown 33:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:46

So part four, Attack of the Clones, and in parentheses, Sue me, it's a good name for a bit for a segment, even if it's a shit movie. And the movie's fine, right? It's Attack of the Clones is is the worst of the prequel movies. And God, look. You need to you need to remember that it is more than the last five minutes where the clones show up. Oh, yeah. Yes, after that happens, it's wonderful. And you know, the sound of the seismic charge Django Fett releases that wow, is like, man, that's great. Everything else in that movie, not so great.

SPEAKER_04 34:25

I I think I always push the romance scenes from Attack of the Clones out of my brain. And I never explored. Because it's like, yeah, this is this is when Anakin is in, like, he's he's a little older, he's a Jedi, oh, and then he's he's protecting Pat. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:44

It is genuinely impressive that it two people can have anti-chemistry. Like it feels like if they if they weren't contractually obligated to be on screen at the same time, just sheer opposite magnetic force would propel them away from each other. And it's it's just so jarring, especially when part way through them having awful interactions, you think to yourself, oh yeah, and he was like eight when they first met or something. Also old he was.

SPEAKER_00 35:17

Oh, fun fun fact if you want a different kind of horror, uh, the the age gap between Anakin and Padme is the same as Anakin and Ahsoka.

SPEAKER_04 35:26

I don't I don't like that you did that. Um I didn't think you would. It's pretty horrible knowledge. Yeah, that's uh that's that's a l there's a lot. Oh, all right. So you know what, Carrie? Or not Carrie, you know, Pangras, why don't you tell us about Clone Wars a little bit more or Attack of the Clones? Because I would like to make my brain forget this last five minutes.

SPEAKER_00 35:50

Yep. I uh yeah, it's uh yeah, that's it's pretty horrible. So we'll talk about Attack of the Clones, the segment I've written and not I hate sand. Those younglings had it coming, shy. Those younglings had it coming. It was self-defense that youngling was reaching. Yeah, he totally. Oh god. Do it, Kirioth.

SPEAKER_01 36:21

Do it, do it. I don't think I've ever tried to do a Yoda voice. This is this. The time is now. No. Fair enough, I could tell you. Victory, you say, Master Obi-Wan, not victory. The Shroud of the Dark Side has fallen. Begun the Clone War has Master Yoda, because you know the voice wasn't great, you needed clarification at the end there.

SPEAKER_04 36:54

Oh, well, you had to uh you had to put that quote in there, huh? I absolutely did. You had to. You had to.

SPEAKER_00 37:02

Oh, Shy wants me to do it? Can we at least get like the mmm?

SPEAKER_03 37:06

Mmm, Victory, you say, Master Obi-Wan. Not victory. The shroud of the dark side has fallen. Begun. The Clone Wars has. That's the best I got.

SPEAKER_00 37:18

All things considered, that wasn't horrible, because you know what? At least you did it.

SPEAKER_04 37:22

I gave it a shot.

SPEAKER_00 37:23

I'm I'm not saying I got a good Yoda, but like that I gave it my damnedest. You either are a good Yoda or you're not. There is no do. There's no is no it's not. There is no try. There is do or do not.

SPEAKER_04 37:35

There's no try, only do. Hey, Shy said could be worse. That is a sparkling review from her. There you go.

SPEAKER_01 37:45

So that's the highest praise you've ever gotten, I think, isn't it? Yeah, I think it might be, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:52

Uh so funny Yoda voice aside, uh, while the machinations of Darth Sidious were what ultimately drove the events that would become, it it wasn't an evil space wizard conning his way into becoming Supreme Chancellor that magically created all of the problems of this era of Star Wars. He didn't, you know, just force lightning the right people and suddenly everyone's rebelling. That's not how this works. As the years went on, more and more planets had understandably become disgruntled with the Republic. All those planets left on their own held incredibly valid grudges against the Senate that clearly just didn't care about them. Left without a drop of Republic assistance, they would turn towards a different cause that would give them proper freedom, security, and justice, the separatists. Hundreds upon thousands of planets began joining the cause of separatism from the Republic, with the charisma of Count Duku convincing several of them, who were kind of on the fence. Uh I imagine Christopher Lee would convince quite a few people of something if he put his mind to it. The Separatist cause they had gone from dis a a couple disgruntled planets to outright succession for the Republic. Though Count Ducou was ultimately the Sith Lord Darth Tyrannus, and though the Separatist cause, to be frank, was ultimately just as ruled by corporations like the Banking Clan and Trade Federation, the causes and emotions of the people under them were very real and very valid. There are two thousand senators in that building, and not one gave a damn about them.

SPEAKER_04 39:28

I I was gonna say it probably didn't take a whole lot. Like you get one charismatic Sith, and it's like, well, of course I'm gonna listen to you. They have done literally nothing for me. My planet is basically a crime world, and they have done nothing. I still have to pay them taxes. Like yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:46

I mean, because Sorry, go on. So he's he's not walking around as a Sith, he's just the Count of Serrano.

SPEAKER_04 39:55

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like they don't know he's a Sith, but even if he came out, it's like, oh yeah, I'm a Sith, and it's like, well, yeah, he's charismatic and the Republic are shitheads. Like, eh, sure. Let's put our faith in the Sith.

SPEAKER_00 40:04

It's been a thousand years since we've seen a Sith. Maybe they weren't that bad. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 40:08

Couldn't be any worse than the shit we have to deal with now.

SPEAKER_01 40:11

Yeah. Literally all of the work was done for him. And by all the work, no work was done by anyone who was in a position to help. So it's like, ah, well, you really should. You really should stick around because look at all the benefits you get. What what benefits have you given us? It's been hundreds of years and we've got nothing. This is awful.

SPEAKER_04 40:35

Oh. Yeah. Well and and who knows the amount of times the Jedi have come in with a corrupt politician and steamrolled a city just because, well, that's what we do. And some Jedi wasn't as noble, I don't want to say noble as Dooku, but wasn't as like, you know, averse as Dooku was. Yeah, and it's just like, God, you way to shoot yourself in the foot.

SPEAKER_00 40:57

Yeah. Uh all of the all of the work done for him. Uh yeah. Billions and billions, probably trillions, quite frankly. Star Wars is is quite big. Uh where B of beings were fed up with the Republic that it in all practical ways abandoned them, abused them, trod upon them, whenever it happened to suit the needs of the core worlds. Uh for every, you know, Padme Amadala trying to help her people and the Republic at large, uh, there were a hundred different senators using the Republic as nothing but a way to make themselves and maybe, big maybe, their homeworld a little bit wealthier as well. Uh the ground floor is that if the bribery helps more than three other people, you are a good senator. That is the baseline we are working with. Oh God.

SPEAKER_04 41:43

That's crazy. Yeah. Please tell me you are over-exaggerating that, and that's not actually like real numbers, please. I'm I'm begging you. I mean, at this point, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 41:52

No. It's not no, it's not a real number, but it it's it's really not that far off, to be honest with you. I was like, at this junction, I'm not sure. You might be for real for real. To be frank with you, if the senator was not wearing a cap. If a given senator went back to their home world and actually left Coruscant to spend some of their money, that was doing more for their planet than they usually did. Because at least if they paid some random vendor, someone on their home planet was getting money. Yikes.

SPEAKER_02 42:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 42:23

The worst kind of trickle down e trickle-down economics is the sign of a good senator right now.

SPEAKER_07 42:29

Yeah. Oof. All right.

SPEAKER_00 42:32

That's cool. Okay. Don't you love the laser sword fights?

SPEAKER_01 42:37

Stop thinking about how horrific the everything behind it actually is. The living conditions are the real horror. Yeah. 100%.

SPEAKER_04 42:46

Love me some laser swords. When do we get to the laser sword section where I don't have to think about Grimdark politics?

SPEAKER_00 42:53

Don't worry. Uh in 22 BBY, because we've reached the breaking point. The Confederacy of Independent Systems and the Republic went to war, with endless droid armies besieging the Republic in their attempt to claim independence through whatever amount of bloodshed was required to grab it. The newly formed Grand Army of the Republic, consisting of near equally endless legions of clone troopers, having been secretly raised on the orders of the Sith, responded in kind, and the clone wars had begun. And uh also just as a quick reminder, I think I'll mention it again later, clones are child soldiers. Uh th really infant soldiers. They are grown uh Rapidly. Yeah. Uh the they uh no one asked a clone if they wanted to fight that battle droid.

SPEAKER_03 43:43

No.

SPEAKER_04 43:44

The Geonosian not Geonosians, the what are the the the weird looking fish low neck catanoins? I keep thinking they're geonosians, and that's that's not what they're yeah, those freaky clone fuckers.

SPEAKER_01 43:57

How long does it take for them to get to To like combat ready status. I can't remember the numbers.

SPEAKER_04 44:04

Yeah, it's not long. It's a surprisingly short amount of time before a clone is combat ready.

SPEAKER_00 44:09

Yeah, it is ten years from embryo to like fully grown adult. That's awful. And I believe straight off to wool. Straight away. Yeah. I think I I believe towards as the war raged on, they bumped those numbers down a little bit. Probably.

SPEAKER_04 44:25

And and Boba is a pure clone with no modifications so that Django could have a child, right?

SPEAKER_00 44:32

Yep. He's uh he's the only pure clone. The rest of the clones are actually technically super soldiers, if uh with some like augmented lungs and whatnot.

SPEAKER_06 44:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 44:40

Mm-hmm. Uh but now is part five, which I've named the section Fall from Grace, but that was the best name I could come up with because it implies the Republic had any grace left by this point. Wow. Excellent. Crazy Kirioth, if you wouldn't mind the uh the next quote.

SPEAKER_01 45:02

I am no longer naive enough to be a Jedi. A new power is rising. I've foreseen it. The Jedi are going to lose this war, and the Republic will be ripped apart from the inside. In its place is going to rise a new order, and I will rule as part of it.

SPEAKER_00 45:19

Pong Krell. Yeah, his name is is, you know, that is certainly a name. Uh but I believe I believe Possum would murder me in my sleep if I did not uh talk about this fellow. And to be frank, if you want to talk about how the Jedi are going bad, he is the best example. Even more than Anakin by this point.

unknown 45:40

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 45:41

That's impressive. That's that's that's how he's quite quite the bar to go under. Yeah. Uh the Republic, though starting the war on the back footing, even with the clones supporting them, took to the warfare remarkably well, and perhaps uh too well. Uh brief tangent, uh, it's related. One of the least flashy things regarding the Clone Wars is that what little support the Republic did give to worlds under its purview dried up. Uh for example, if you look up the origin of a whole lot of different Star Wars, you know, ships and vehicles of this era, you will notice that Kuat Driveyards is being given about 50% of the Republic's budget.

SPEAKER_06 46:20

Ah.

SPEAKER_00 46:21

Uh a vendor is not cheap. So countless planets that were otherwise doing all right were now forced into poverty as the Republic's budget in taxes increased and shifted not towards anything to help people, but to fund what had become a galaxy-wide conflict. Yeah. Uh the necessity of, you know, putting money towards, you know, ships like this, ignoring the fact, again, this is uh all a Sith ploy and it's Palpadine playing chess with himself, uh, could be debatable. You know, battle droids are it's nice to have something to not get shot by a battle droid. Fair enough. I can understand you finally waking up and putting some money into the military. Probably would have been better to do so before the pirates caused the battle droids to be shooting you. But at least you're awake now. Uh but the end result either way was that for the common person, all of their tax money was now going to nothing but the creation of more clones, more ATTs, more venidors, to be thrown into a meat grinder and headbutted just into a line of B1s, hailfires, and providences. Uh, there's the veterans. God, I love that ship so much. That is the coolest ship ever designed. I will die on that. It is very cool. Uh oh, also, uh, you know that big droid tank like the the with the giant wheels and just the missiles in between it? Yes. That uh that thing was originally designed for debt collection.

SPEAKER_06 47:49

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_00 47:51

How big a debt matter. However big it is, you're gonna find a way to pay it when that thing rolls up.

SPEAKER_03 48:00

Yep, one way or another, you're gonna pay it.

SPEAKER_00 48:03

And now r every random planet in the galaxy is finding out what happens when those things deploy. Uh turns out a lot of explosions and a lot of dead people.

SPEAKER_02 48:13

Yeah. Definitely a lot of dead people.

SPEAKER_00 48:16

Clones themselves, speaking over a whole mess of a subject, like we were talking about, clones of a bounty hunter, they're child soldiers to such an extent they don't have a childhood. Their childhood is military simulations. Uh from embryo to accelerate adulthood, they're they were soldiers of the Grand Army of the Republic, to fight countless battle droids and more, and told to die for a society that they only knew from the education they received from their birth. They were not there was no, you know, student exchange programs of clone troopers. You are grown on Camino, you live in your pod, you you're told what happens, and then you go die against droids. Uh, of course, on the command of your Jedi generals. Of course. As the conflict went on, the uh the Republic only became more sued for warfare in the worst of ways. For reference, there's a compilation of, you know, the 3D Clone Wars TV show on YouTube, just called The Clone War The Republic Committing War Crimes for Eight Minutes Straight. Oh, only eight minutes. Nice. Uh it's very condensed. It's not only eight minutes, it's wow, you fit a lot of war crimes in just eight minutes.

SPEAKER_01 49:27

Oh, so it's not like it's not like here's a solid minute per war crime, it's no five seconds for every four.

SPEAKER_00 49:36

Yeah, yeah. Yep. There's a reason the droids don't know if they take prisoners, because every time someone tries to surrender on the republic's side, they then shoot them. Cool. Ah it wasn't just the republic at large doing this. Jedi Knights had become the greatest leaders and warriors in the galaxy, because it turns out a guy with pre-cognition is a good general, who would have thought. Though they did still ultimately fight for justice, they had become enmeshed in a war against people that legitimately had reason to be fighting to leave the republic. Uh countless atrocities were even committed by them, which, you know, while incidents many Jedi would decry these as horrid, that doesn't help the people who now have to grieve over their dead family. And uh nowhere do I think kind of shows the fall of the Republic standards and the Jedi as the rampage of Jedi Knight Pong Krell. So we will go to the planet of Umbara, a planet that had metal on it vital for the construction of starships, so the Republic invaded. That was uh that was kind of it. They needed what was on it. It was not uh It was It was a staunch support of the Republic for the longest time, and it had only seceded after its representation in the Senate, who was one of like three decent senators, was assassinated. Uh after this happened, the Republic didn't fair. Fair on their part.

SPEAKER_01 51:06

Come on.

SPEAKER_00 51:07

And when that happened, they didn't really respond with diplomacy or an attempt at negotiation, but by dumping a whole load of acclimator warships into the sky and clone troopers descending out of this world the permanent night. Oh the Okay No one taught clones rules of engagement, fun fact. Uh because and the Umbaran front was nothing but slaughter. Uh the Umbarans also gave no quarter, but if you're if we're doing he said, she said, the Republic is supposed to be the ideal of the galaxy. They are supposed to be the good guys, an organization where, you know, there's fairness, everyone's heard equally, and even the enemies are treated with respect. Which to give an idea of what it should be, technically being a Sith isn't actually illegal. Uh obviously, you know, the things a Sith would do is are very illegal, but just being one doesn't immediately immediately condemn you.

SPEAKER_04 52:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 52:01

Yeah. This is like the this is the moral high ground, it should be high ground. This is what they should be having. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_04 52:08

That's hey, well, we'll get to that movie.

SPEAKER_00 52:11

Yeah, it's it's you're supposed to be like, look, all of these things you should like strike them down. Like you were supposed to be like the moral high point. You are everyone else should like the reason people go to the Republic is because it should be so obvious that everyone else, like the other options are horrid, are the Sith. And and they couldn't do that. They couldn't be the moral high point against Sith. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, Q Captain Rex and the rest of the 501st Legion double tapping wounded umbarants. Oh no. Jesus. All right. Sick. Sick, bro. Cool, cool, cool. And uh beyond beyond those specific instances, because I believe that that happens at least once in that arc of the Clone Wars, he just shoots a guy who's wounded on the ground and no one comments on it. Uh weapons are deployed that without the shields and like sci-fi tech of Star Wars would crack planets in half. There is a throwaway line that uh 200 megaton bombs are being deployed. What what if what if what if the what if we just this planet just wasn't inhabitable anymore? Uh yeah. Well, yeah, what the hell?

SPEAKER_01 53:27

I mean, I I guess a way to prove way to prove them right that they should have seceded. Public's acting like absolute garbage. There's just no reason to stick around if that's the way they're going about. This is why you shouldn't secede, because pay your taxes, fuckle.

SPEAKER_04 53:47

Otherwise, we'll deploy 200 megaton I was gonna say inhabitable, like the planet's not even gonna be there for much longer, let alone inhabitable, like that thing's gonna that thing's gonna get Katie in. I'm sorry to boss baby it like that. I couldn't think of any other example.

SPEAKER_00 54:03

I well, I believe Alderon would be a good one, but we're not quite there yet.

SPEAKER_04 54:07

That's you know, that's fair too, sure.

SPEAKER_00 54:09

Sure. That's a that's a different trilogy. Uh yeah, umbarans were rarely, if at all, taken prisoners, and even before good old Pong Krill took over the campaign, the clones acted without a shred of mercy. When he came, how low at least some of the Jedi had fallen became very apparent. Uh he treated the clone troopers as if they were nothing but thoughtless battle droids, which is a side tangent. Droids and Star Wars are also just people. I will fight people on this. R2D2 is just a guy. Just a guy. But no Star Wars writer wants to admit the fact that Luke Skywalker was a slave owner, so they're never going to acknowledge it.

SPEAKER_01 54:48

Like they they give them distinct personalities and decision-making processes and give them like quirks and sentience. So just because they're artificial, like they clearly have some capacity for like feeling stuff. So yeah, and like the whole droid side of it is one of those things that for ages I was like, am I wrong in thinking that that's actually quite an awful thing that no one else seems to really care about?

SPEAKER_04 55:17

Yeah, no one's no one looks good in this war. No, no one does at all. Wait, they made fun of sentient droids being slaves in the solo movie? I don't remember. Well, it's been they did.

SPEAKER_00 55:31

They did. Uh I think there was like a droid rights movement, and it's treated as a joke. Because again, if they don't treat it like a joke, they have to admit Luke Skywalker owns slaves.

SPEAKER_02 55:41

Yeah. Oh boy.

SPEAKER_00 55:44

It just I love my fun laser sword setting.

SPEAKER_03 55:47

Yeah, but it's just getting worse and worse, don't it?

SPEAKER_04 55:49

This is just all right, so uh what is it? Pell uh what's what's the what's the guy's name? Pell Krong or something?

SPEAKER_00 55:57

Kong Krell, but the the the more you dis the more you disr look, the more you disrespect his name, the happier I am. This guy is a piece of shit. It's not hard to disrespect the name. It's it's a very silly name. He deserves every shred of disrespect. Hey, yo, he dual wields double-sided lightsabers. He does. I gotta admit, he has he has some aura. That is I look how incredibly practical that is. Look, look, I've held myself back long enough. I'm much more partial to a different four-armed lightsaber wielder.

SPEAKER_04 56:32

That's yeah, I I I get it. I get it. Also, it's the is this the only other time we see uh this alien species?

SPEAKER_00 56:40

Because there's the uh Obi-Wan's friend in the diner that's I always forget that they are the same species because one of those is fat, funny 1950s American diner guy, and the other is the living brick shit house that is punkrel.

SPEAKER_03 56:58

Oh yeah, it just belongs to them cloners out in the outside. Obi-Wan!

SPEAKER_00 57:03

Obi-Wan! I love that guy! Oh, I mean, everyone loves Dexter.

SPEAKER_07 57:09

Yeah, he's great! Dexter Jet. Oh Dexter de Jickster. Hell yeah. Dexter Jetster.

SPEAKER_00 57:25

How did you make that up? Please tell me you made his last name up. No.

SPEAKER_01 57:32

Dex Horse Just so many insane names. It's not I mean it's funny, but it's not actually that surprising, let's be honest.

SPEAKER_00 57:43

Every fictional atrocity and atrocity of writing is forgiven, George Lucas. Holy hits. Oh man, that that took me that that flashbanged me. That took me so out of it. Oh man, where was I? Right. Oh god, Pong Krell. Uh DK, you did, as much as it was a boss baby, by the way, you kind of hit you hit the bullseye a bit because Pong Krell treated the clones like they were Imperial Guardsmen. Mm-hmm. Love it. Uh he would send them into the worst of fights if victory was even remotely possible, regardless of the fact if it's the most efficient way to win, or if preserving lives is something you should aspire to do. He didn't care. Victory was the only objective. The lives of the clones, who gives a damn? Uh the lives of the Umbarans were even less important to him because I'm pretty sure he saw at least a couple of the double tappings and No comments. They don't care. Why should I care? Yeah, that that was uh yep. Uh and it was uh it was several battles worth of this where there is a there's an umbaran fortification in front of this. You can go around, you can try and sabotage the walls, or you can charge them head first like it's the Normandy landings, and that was the option chosen every time. I see. Uh no doubt that would have kept going on both in that front and probably different battlefronts as well, had the soldiers of the Five of First not discovered the treachery. Uh and quite frankly, if no one ever called him out, well that quote at the start of the section is uh indicative of what Pong Krell wanted to do as this new regime he foresaw coming would come about. He probably would have been uh Palpatine's strongest inquisitor. And when he was discovered, he did not surrender and explain himself. He did not do anything like that. He butchered dozens, if not hundreds, of clones personally. Yeah, that uh those screenshots I'm sending. That is not him fighting the enemy of the Republic. That is him murdering clone troopers. Of course it is. Hey, well and uh the clones responded with an equal level of brutality. Uh I'm not gonna say he didn't deserve what he got, but anything resembling a proper protocol was not followed. Uh after he was eventually defeated by the clones, he was then executed by the clones.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:11

Oh, okay. They were just like, well, it's time to take it's time to take justice into our own hands. So there would there were enough clones to kill him, huh?

SPEAKER_00 1:00:22

Well, for a quote that I believe I'll just take this one. If there's one thing we clones know, it's how to stop a Jedi. Oh and uh as that screenshot Shy sent, he was literally told to face the wall.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:38

Oh I mean, that's still probably too good for what he did, that he gets a quick, clean headshot, but you know, whatever.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:51

And uh yeah, so his existence, quite frankly, was a sign that the Jedi were not nearly as incorruptible as they thought. They are supposed to be the end all be all of good guys, right? It i it's it's the Jedi. You you cannot find like a more picturesque example of good guy. And then this guy comes out of them. A sign that, you know, they had perhaps fallen from the heights they aspire to. But it wasn't just a fall of the, you know, of their own grace, because aside from you know the whole separatist thing existing, plenty of other threats would rise as well, and some of them were a direct result of the Jedi's own interference on behalf of the Senate. Uh, which is why I have part six. A uh the title here is just villains of their own making.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:40

Yeah. That's that seems apropos for what we've been talking about.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:44

Mm-hmm. I think it's DK. Yes. Yes, DK. Here's here's a quote, if you listen to me, Jedi.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:53

I do not care about your politics. I do not care about your republic. I only live to see you die.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:02

That is a a quote from a fellow named Kaime Jai Shillal, who boy, did the Jedi goof when this guy came about. By not kidding them instantly. Uh a little more complicated than that, honestly, and I can't blame the guy for what he would do, because his backstory is very sad. Lovely. Uh he was a a native of a fairly primitive st uh stand or society by Star Wars standpoint. Uh they had just just reached like, you know, the galaxy, just become aware, right, that there's there's a whole galaxy out there full of other people, right? And they there's still like, aside from like early space stuff, they also still just have like gunpowder weapons. Like by Star Wars standards, they got slog throwers in a galaxy of laser weapons. Very, very out-of-the-way planet, nothing too special about it. And uh Chimane's planet was invaded by a species known as the Yamri, also known as the Huck, where a whole lot of atrocities were committed against them. Uh at the moment, this doesn't involve the Republic. It will vary shortly. And uh the Huck or Yamri, I'm gonna kind of say both of them interchangeably, that's the same species. They're the classic, like, everyone is an asshole species. Like I literally eating babies for fun.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:20

Oh. They uh You say literally I I don't literally eating babies for fun.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:29

That's I get not even like not even a sustenance thing, just you know, for for shits and gigs.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:37

Okay. Right. Wow. Okay. Uh yeah, they're great. They're great.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:44

Oh yeah, phenomenal. Just great guy.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:47

Uh a little bit weird, but otherwise.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:49

Lovely babies.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:50

So don't don't don't go to their all you can eat buffet guy.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:53

No, no. Also, of course, you know, slavery and piracy and all that, you know, additionally to the to the eating babies thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:59

I feel like that's a given if you're eating babies.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:01

Yeah, at that point, like anything else is like I can't even feel that offended by it because I just saw you eat a two-year-old.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:07

Yeah. Yeah, that's uh that's a lot. That's a whole lot, a lot, a lot, a lot. Oh boy.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:13

Uh Chimane during this would become known as a fearsome warrior as well as an unparalleled strategic genius during this conflict. Because again, in spite of the fact they're being invaded by a spacefaring society and they have like muskets, he and his forces would hold the line. In spite of his lover dying during the conflict, he pushed them back. Again, uh just arriving on the scene, he held so well that he invaded the Yamri back. Which is very important because the Yamri, the Huck, had one advantage that his people did not. They were members of the Republic, which incidentally, yes, the they were members of the Republic.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:52

Oh no.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:53

They were allowed in.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:55

The baby eating slavers were allowed into the republic and they're the and is the republic about to side with the baby eating slavers against the Well, you think the Republic when news came out that the Hucks world was being invaded, the Republic, and most importantly, the fucking Jedi did not look into the conflict.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:20

The Senate saw that a Republic world was under attack by a non-republic one, so the Jedi marched in, and these people were punished, uh, sent back to their homeworld, countless sanctions and reparations were to be repaid to the people who invaded them, and they were just treated as property.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:38

Oh, I hate all of it.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:41

Oh I mean, just but burn it down. Get rid of it. It's it's so far beyond any sort of semblance of being useful, competent. Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:55

What can we please? Why did Count Dooku leave the report? Public, the Jedi Order. Why would he do this?

SPEAKER_02 1:06:03

As it turns out, Anakin was right.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:06

You know, like I I've sort of been like a casual Star Wars enjoyer all these years. I genuinely didn't realise just how much awful, batshit, insane, horrible things are in this universe. Yeah. I know we joked about uh the the lightsaber fights are fun. They genuinely are fun. I didn't realize that the cosmic backdrop to the lightsaber fights were, well, you see, the government supported the baby eating slavers. Like, what the fuck is going on?

SPEAKER_03 1:06:35

It's crazy. Jesus.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:38

Yeah. So for Caimane's part, uh, before he's going to make everything everyone else's problem, in a very understandable crash out, might I add. Oh yeah. Yeah. Uh, he would, for a bit, just to try and help his people, he became an enforcer for the banking clan. Just basically, he's just sending all of his earnings because an enforcer for the banking clan will make a lot of money for all the morality of being a super debt collector. Uh he was anything to help his people out who have just had, you know, the Republican Jedi's balls dragged across his people's chin. Uh, he was helping his people out of poverty uh in exchange for getting debt for the banking clan collected, which we are at such a low point that the people employing like mafia debt enforcers are helping out this planet, and the Republic isn't. They actually did like give him all the money they said they would to help his people out. That is how far down the Republic is going.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:37

God, that is well, okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:40

And uh now we get to the crash out because Chimane's life would only continue to spiral as one day a bomb was put on his transport and he was nearly killed. And this is the part uh well, pardon me. Uh he was then offered a deal by Count Duku, where he would be rebuilt and turned into a weapon against the Jedi and the Republic that had wronged him so. And this is the part where you all sigh at me because what I didn't mention is that he took on a new name in the war when his wife was killed, and that name was Grievous.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:11

So I I didn't I didn't want to jump the gun on you, but when I when I when Chai posted the picture of Chimeen, I was like, oh, that's right. They at some point they did the origin story of Grievous, and I was like, is this that guy? Kind of looks like that guy. And I was like, I'll just I'll just I'll just I'll just let Pancreas do what Pancreas do.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:32

I have no idea, so that was a lovely surprise. I'm genuinely smiling.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:37

Uh he would prove himself an even greater warrior and just as good of a general, and the being that was once Chimane Jai Shillal would become the supreme commander of the Confederacy of Independent Systems Military, General Grievous. Of course. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:53

And uh Oh wow, the the the image of their like they're real cool.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:57

Like obviously it's the General Grievous mask, but like, oh, they're dope. That uh his mask is a skull mask of his people. Uh his is just a lot more uh solidly metal and less traditional because he was even more robot than Darth Vader was. Yeah. Uh DK, would you mind reading something for me? This is how Grievous uh took to his new lease on life. I'm sorry, I don't have a grievous voice. I I I but anyway. Very few people do.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:30

Is it murder to rid the galaxy of you, Jedi filth?

SPEAKER_00 1:09:36

Yeesh. Uh words said right before he ridds the galaxy of some Jedi filth.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:42

Oh yeah. Well, you know, anyone that's seen General Grievous knows that his favorite pastime is ridding the galaxy of Jedi filth. How many lightsabers does he have in his collection?

SPEAKER_00 1:09:56

A few. Just a couple. Hey, hey, young Jedi Knight, you want to know what it's like to be inside a blender? Will it blend?

SPEAKER_01 1:10:07

Took it inside you. The answer is yes.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:11

If your name is an Obi-Wan, the answer is yes.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:15

I thought his favorite pastime was running away from Obi-Wan. Damn shy. You're gonna say that with Pancreas right here. Yeah, I'm gonna send you a pipe bomb.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:26

In Minecraft, obviously.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:29

There is no bit, fuck you. Yeah, blame George. I will blame George, who looked at uh something animated by Gendi Tartakovki and said, What if he was a pussy actually? False. Bad decision. He's Georging again.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:49

He's George Maxing, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:51

Ugh, but uh back to uh I need to I will now move away because I will get lost, Glazing Grievous, if I don't. Uh The Republic did not ask the Huck why the or why the Khali invaded them. They did not look into this war. They did the Jedi did not ask the Khali why they were invading the Hawk. They simply punished them for a war they did not start and for bloodshed that they did not cause, because one of these people was on Team Republic and the other wasn't, so who gives a shit?

SPEAKER_07 1:11:20

Sure.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:20

And because of this, uh Count Duku was so easily able to convince General Grievous that they were at fault for everything, because in many ways they were, and the greatest Jedi killer in history was born. Uh also Count Dooku is the one who put the bomb on his shuttle, but uh Grievous was not informed of this fun little tidbit. Obviously. Because lovely lovely stuff. Because this poor dude's life is just being a puppet or abused by people above him.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:49

Well, at least he's dope as hell now. Yep. Uh but because uh no one on the proper side of things did the slightest bit of investigation, over a hundred Jedi were personally slain by Grievous himself.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:02

Hundreds more were slain on the commands and strategies of the general, and thousands of physical Over a hundred were person a hundred Jedi were personally killed in person by Grievous.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:15

Yeah, I believe that. Now is a good time to remind you he is not a wizard. He does not have the force, he's just going to kill you. He's just he's just an absolute legend, basically. There is all there is to it. There is no you're just gonna die. If if you are not a main character, you have lost living privileges. You will become one with the force now. That is, doesn't he say that he dies to Obi-Wan?

SPEAKER_04 1:12:44

I'm just saying. I realize you would be.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:50

Yes. Uh he also has cybernetics in his brain that uh help him just perfectly analyze you as you fight. Lovely.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:59

I do I do vaguely remember the the like is it in the in the film where he's like, oh, I've been I've I've been trained in your Jedi arts by Count Dooku. Yeah, and then he and then he just manages to rotate two of his wrists over and over again as though that's something anyone can do. Dooku taught me this one. Yeah, it's like I don't think he taught you that. I'm just saying I think you might have come up with that by yourself.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:27

Which should be fair handily deals with most people when you turn a lightsaber into a helicopter plate.

unknown 1:13:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:34

It's fair, yeah. Ugh uh and uh thousands of worlds burned under the bombardment of separatist cruisers on his orders. All of this because the Jedi just accepted the word of the Senate. They just said, well, the Senate told us to do something, so it must be the right thing to do. And the Senate itself just didn't care to look into matters that didn't, you know, enrich senators. Uh they put in no work into keeping their own house in order. The Jedi did no work in making sure the Senate was truly working towards justice, and then we have then we have uh and so General Grievous came about because no one gave a shit. And uh when people asked him, you know, what do you have Obi-Wan would at one point ask him, what do what do you have to show for all this power? What do you have to gain? What is why are you doing this, basically? And he just said he's fighting for the future. A future where there are no Jedi.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:30

Mm-mm-mm.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:32

Because they didn't do the slightest bit of actual legal or investigation or being good people.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:39

Yeah, they really didn't. Like, God, I I I um a part of me is like, wow, like I'm I'm almost on like the side of the separatists and the Sith here, because the Jedi and the and the Republic are just awful.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:51

Yeah. I never thought I'd say, I think the guy the guy who killed over a hundred Jedi in jewels might be right. But I kind of is though. Like Psychai said valid crash out.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:06

Very valid crash out. Yeah, geez.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:10

Also, he's really cool, so like look, I'd be on his side no matter what. I mean, it counts for a lot, to be honest. Granted, he he is really, really, really, really cool. Uh look, I like robots. I like lightsabers. What if two of them were what if what if combined them, yes?

SPEAKER_01 1:15:28

What if they kissed?

SPEAKER_00 1:15:31

Oh no. Okay. Yeah, he's he's gonna make you kiss the floor.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:40

Well, at least the dismembered parts that used to be your lips will kiss the floor anyway.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:46

Well, yeah. Uh a closed casket funeral at the Jedi Temple awaits you.

unknown 1:15:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:53

Why is there just a smoothie on the dais? Well It's just a shoebox, because that's all we can find. Uh now part seven, the the final bit, Nightfall. And uh yes, for anyone in the audience, I did in fact spell it yes, fight Yoda, kill that green fucker, you will. Floor him, grab him with your foot, do it. Do it. Do it. Uh but uh nightfall, and yes, for those in the audience, I did in fact spell it nightfall like K with a night, like the Battlefront 2 mission. You may now point it. You may now point at the screen and you know Soy Jack. Yes. Uh I I was in fact, yes, a kid when the prequels were coming out. How could you tell? Uh The Fall of the Republic, as is uh fairly well established, was democracy dying through thunderous applause. Uh Order 66 took care of the Jedi. Suddenly turned on by soldiers they trusted implicitly, only a few hundred managed to survive the initial purge. There were 10,000 Jedi Knights when the war started. I believe about 200 survived to the end of Revenge of the Sith.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:08

I'm actually kind of surprised it was 200. I thought it was less than that.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:12

Well, most of those 200 were then slain by Darth Vader.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:16

That's true. Vader goes and cleans it up, doesn't he? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:20

Yeah, yeah. If the clones missed one, he didn't. He was an efficient killing machine. Quite. Uh the Senate happily cheered as Chancellor Palpatine rebranded himself Emperor and the Republic the Galactic Empire. They would soon become more nothing more than a rubber stamp for him, and, as is a little brief line in a new hope, outright disbanded. But early on, there was nothing but celebration for what was ultimately the downfall of a civilization that had survived twenty-five thousand years of warfare against a Sith, to nothing short of the Dark Lord to rule them all. And what was left, aside from the obvious, the Empire, was a galaxy brutalized by war. The outer rim was worse off than ever before, even the midrim was ravaged by the conflict as battle droids and clones just fought in people's backyards across the galaxy. And though aside from the Battle of Coruscant and a few other planets, the core worlds were still left wealthy and rich, the dark side has now fallen. The Empire Born of the Republic was a brutal regime where descent was punished, aliens discriminated against, of course, and lives thrown away at the drop of a hat for the latest nonsense sith superweapon or other. The Tarkin Doctrine replaced any sort of pretending of governance the Republic was doing, and it was a society ruled through fear and threat of immense punishment if anyone steps out of line. You do not build the Death Star if you do not plan on using it.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:48

And boy do they uh use it. And uh yeah, all of this, it was orchestrated by the Sith, you know, I am the Senate. Has its origins, though, in the Republic's many, many faults. The Death Star is, you know, the it the ultimate example of tyranny and the power of a repressive government, but the order of base delta zero, the total bombardment of a planet's surface, was given more and more as the Clone Wars raged by the Republic and occasionally even by Jedi generals. The Imperial Star Destroyer might be the most iconic symbol of the Empire's power and oppression, but acclimators and venators proved that these military vessels did not come purely out of Sith evil. They had origins in the Republic that built them. The poverty and oppression of all of the many of those worlds, by the way, was nothing new, because for many planets, the Empire was just a name change. When you're getting raided by pirates, it doesn't really matter if the pirates have fancy white armor now. Nothing has changed for you.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:52

Yeah, it just went from bad to bad still, but this time with a shade of white. Yep. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:00

Not a moral shade of white.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:03

No. The idea that the reaction to a a like rebranding of the organization that your planet belongs to could just be met with, well, they didn't do anything for us before, and they still don't care now. So functionally, it's absolutely no different, is is genuinely horrible. Like it just has a different name and awful. Yeah, it's like, oh, so oh, so they're they're apparent so they're evil now? Okay. Are they going to do anything to help? Or even you know, are they going to acknowledge our existence in any way? No. Okay. How is this different? I don't understand.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:42

Your neighbors like evil now? Isn't that how they've always now? Like the difference is their armor looks a little bit different and the flag looks a little different, but this is the same shit.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:55

They bombing our neighbors two weeks ago.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:58

What is the difference? They're stormtroopers, not clone trooper. Okay. And cool.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:07

HR needs you to find the difference between these two pictures. They're the same picture. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:11

Yeah. Are they still doing war crimes? Yes. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:15

They're actually a little worse now, though, but yeah, they're still doing war crimes.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:18

No, now they're not war crimes because we're not at war. You can't commit a war crime during peace. Under our regime, it's just normal crime.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:28

Modern problems require modern solutions. Yeah. Oh my God. That's so funny, Shy. Like when you you posted that and it it thumbnailed it and it's just zoomed in on their crotch. I was like, Shy wouldn't be caught.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:41

I was like, why we name sent stormtrooper crotches? I don't think so.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:45

I was like, Shy, what are we doing? And then and then I clicked on it. It's like, oh, it's it's the difference between a stormtrooper and a clone trooper.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:51

Okay, look, I'm just I'm just saying I would Tamura Morrison. I understand why they cloned that man. Hell yeah, brother. Stormtroopers are actually less shitty because at least they're not child soldier, very based shitty. That's true. Although he is the guy who gave the order to create the child soldiers.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:14

Yeah, problem is, I mean, at least at least you can see clone troopers hitting the target. Stormtroopers are just like, where what are you looking at, brother? What are you looking at?

SPEAKER_00 1:22:23

Oh, there's so many things in universe and out of universe on that. It's all great. Wow. Another banger Star Wars propaganda piece. Someone definitely probably should have been paid for.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:36

Oh my god, that is a crazy do not bind his hands. Grant him the authority he needs to assure total victory. And it's just Palpatine's face. That's crazy. Holy shit.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:50

Oh man. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:52

That's wild, dude.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:53

That's great. Oh my god. Yep. And uh beautiful. Jesus. All of this was because the the Senate refused to govern as they should have. All of this was because the Supreme Chancellors of old were near useless, and the one who wasn't useless was a Sith Lord.

unknown 1:23:16

Great.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:17

That's what you want from your government structure. Turns out the Republic had one competent man, and it just happened to be the one man that they could have really done with rooting out nice and early.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:29

Yeah. Well, yeah. And the Jedi, the most iconic example of good and justice there is, did nothing to stop it either. They saw the Republic become more and more corrupt and didn't stop it. They didn't wish to participate in these material concerns, justly or not, and it cost them everything. And if you'll forgive a little bit of conjecture on my part, I imagine that if you asked the Jedi, while the Republic was rotting from the inside out, why they followed the Senate, why they enforce these corrupt politicians' will and cause just as much harm across the galaxy, they'd probably give you the same answer a clone would for why they just gunned the Jedi down. Because they were just following orders. And with that, we have the Empire, and the fall of the Republic was complete.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:17

Yay.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:37

Like a couple of the ones that I started. Like it's it's it's been very like not like glitzy is the wrong term, but it feels like the overall message has kind of been this there's always a bit of hope, and things seem to work out at the end due to heroic actions and you know people being fundamentally good and strong together. The the backdrop of it being, ah yes, thousands of years of corruption, laziness, like just people falling into being terrible and not doing what they know they should, and the moral arbiters of that universe just being like, yeah, it's fine.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:17

That means it's the good thing to do.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:19

Yeah, it's it's so it's so much worse than than I thought by a considerable metric. Like, God damn.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:29

You know, I I I came into the and I was like, oh, this is probably gonna be like full of memes, and like, oh, it's gonna be like this is totally gonna be sidetracked into a grievous episode, and now I'm dealing with the existential crisis of the Republic, the Jedi being useless, massive political corruption, people eating babies.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:49

I think Yeah, every now and again a Star Wars writer does just kind of go rogue. Uh in a good way sometimes, but also that. Chris. All right. That's oh boy. So so that they're part of the re- but they're part of the Republic, DK.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:08

Yeah, we were just doing what we were ordered to, even though they told us to gun down this completely innocent place that only their only uh misgivings was they didn't do political corruption with us. Hull brother.

unknown 1:26:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:23

So is is is that the episode proper? Is is is is do we have any more to uh undertake? Or or is this if we clicked it?

SPEAKER_00 1:26:33

I get oh what a shy idea. Oh good thing in the sequels, the new republic is much better. Oh, what's that? They made fighting new Nazi Empire illegal and still have no army. Yeah. Look, I'm not trying to you know come across as Lockheed Martin's strongest soldier, but like, you know, there's a few pirates out there. I'm just saying, like, just one battleship, just one.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:59

Yeah. Yeah. God damn.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:04

It's almost ditching all of your armed forces as soon as victory's been declared has historically been a bad idea. So maybe don't do it again. No. Oh no, wait.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:17

Muddy put it in the military industrial complex is money well spent. So true shy, another 20 trillion galactic credits to Kuan Driveyards.

SPEAKER_07 1:27:27

Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:28

Uh on my final note though, I have to say that uh my my capacity for nuance and looking at the Republic in a in a dark manner uh fades into ash the moment a clone screams for the republic. I will I will I will I will die in battle with a clone. Fair enough. That's fair.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:46

I'll give you that. That's that's fine. All right. Oh, yeah, yeah.

unknown 1:27:52

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:54

It would seem to be look, look, political nuance is all well and good, but a clone trooper fighting to to Lincoln Park in the back. background I'm sorry. In the end. For sure.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:04

For sure. Uh the AMV effect. No matter what it is. You instantly resonate and you're right there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:10

I mean, look, yeah, I said look at look at that shit. Come on now.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:14

Yeah, that is pretty peak. Uh yeah, you you always gotta side with the the lone clone trooper fighting uh a horde of uh you know droids or whatever it may be.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:24

He gave the order to retreat because they were stealing his kills.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:32

Don't worry I'll stay behind. No you won't. Those are my kills, fucker. Alright, hey did you enjoy today's episode? If you did and maybe you want to support us, heading over to orchid8.com and maybe pick yourself up some merch. You could be a weeb for Lincoln, you could get a coin there's tons of really cool merch there. You should check it out. Orchid8.com link in the description. Uh here at the end Kirioth is also going to tell you about the Patreon and do an outro.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:58

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SPEAKER_00 1:29:55

I genuinely have no idea. Happy to enlighten you look any chance I get especially nowadays to tell someone that Star Wars is still peak, I will grasp with both hands.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:11

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SPEAKER_00 1:30:24

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