FRIENDSHIP VS COMPETITION IN AGRICULTURE

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Farming can be one of the most supportive communities… but also one of the most competitive. So where’s the line?

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SPEAKER_02 0:00

Hello and welcome back to the Farma Files with your hosts, Abby and Maria.

SPEAKER_00 0:19

Welcome back to another episode. Today is a bit of an exciting one that we've had in by request. We have. So obviously, you guys like to send in your stories. We like to hear them. And we've got a bit of a vibe from some stories we've been getting in lately. So this is something I'm gonna say is a problem I have. I don't know about you, but I struggle with I think it's mainly girls. I don't know about boys. I'm not gonna comment on boys because I I don't know how they don't even know how they work or think. So who knows? Um the realities of being in farming and having competition within your friendships. Obviously, I'm in a bit more of an industry where there is a bit of bitchiness. Can I say that? I'm gonna say it. I'm gonna say it. Um yeah, where maybe sometimes your kindness is taken a bit a bit I don't know what the word is. Granted. Yeah, probably. And kindness Okay Um Ladies and gentlemen, Maria. Um anyway, on that note, um what was I trying what what was going on? Anyway, um friendships within farming and competition and bitchiness and yeah, pretty much. I don't know, have you had bad stories? Obviously, everything's gonna stay anonymous in this podcast. I've had no I wouldn't say so. Really? I've had a lot of friends like jealousy? Yes, I've experienced that, but um I think that's definitely more prone when you have social media. Yeah, I've experienced friends become jealous over time, and I've you lost friends over it? I've cut ties because I I just don't want that vibe around me. That's fair enough. Like in the nicest possible way. Like, yes, maybe there was a time we have friends, but I think we've just grown apart, and potentially that's been a cause of it.

SPEAKER_02 2:39

Yes, I've never mentioned it, just been like just in a distance, like kindly, always here, but I just need to take myself away from that.

SPEAKER_00 2:50

That I've had in situations, but nothing too much of people being massively unkind in person, but social media, I've experienced it countless times. I think it's also people make comments behind your back, they're a bit like, who the hell does she think she is? Um like we make videos. I've definitely had that before, especially there was there's one person that put into a group chat a picture of them that they had got into a publication and turned around and put into a group chat Maria Warren Wannabe, loads of laughing faces. Firstly, my name is Maria Warren Elston. Secondly, get to know your facts. Secondly, you're meant to be my friend. Don't pose as my friend and not be my friend. Yeah, it's not gonna go appreciated. No, like if you sent it to me, if I was in that group chat as well, oh it's it's a joke, it would be a different line. That would the fact that you did it behind your back makes it an unfriendly joke. Yeah, yeah. So we're gonna go on to the sponsor today. We feel like we've not pushed our merch. We feel we've been a bit quiet on it. We feel it's time to bring the merch sponsor back. So, as many of you already know, and we could tell this through the orders, that you have been loving our new design. To be fair, I think because it's still winter and we're still wearing hoodies, and they're not like they're thick, but they're not too thick. They're the kind of thing I would wear on a summer's night as well as a winter's day. Yes. That kind of material? Yes. You'd still put a coat on if it's winter, but actually, it's not thick. You're not it's flexible. Yeah. I'm going with that. Can't all be thick round here. No, so we basically came up with this design where it's got Abby surprised me for Christmas for this design. Yeah, so if you watch the Christmas episode where we gave gifts, this is what I gave Maria, and then we turned it into actual merch for you guys. So for any like die hard track far fans, fawns, um, there is a TW on there. TW 15. She is correct, she got it wrong the first time. I did, but is it for the red stripe though? I'm sorry. It's what the designer did. It's fine. Um I accept it. A valet, a borderlester, and a Hereford. So all of our favourite things in there.

SPEAKER_02 5:25

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SPEAKER_00 5:31

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SPEAKER_02 6:01

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SPEAKER_02 6:36

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SPEAKER_00 6:37

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unknown 6:41

Oh, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_00 6:43

Um, so yeah, on that note, um, I'm gonna go a bit into I think where I learnt less is more when it comes to friendships nowadays. Obviously, I've experienced my fair share of comments. Comments behind my back. Um, I wouldn't say I hear everything. I hear majority, I think it always comes back. I think a lot of things just come back, don't they? Well, I think because when you start doing social media, it's not now just your friends and family that know what you're doing all the time. Yeah. It could be your neighbour's cat, your the ran down the road, or whatever it is, like everybody now knows, should they want to see what you're doing.

SPEAKER_02 7:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:30

So now those people don't just have someone who knows you to talk about, they also have everybody that is following you to talk to about you. But I I always think just remember, I know I can I can vouch for this. You only post what you want everyone to see.

SPEAKER_02 7:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:50

Although we've both been quite open lately. No, we're open on here.

unknown 7:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:55

I think because we can talk and explain ourselves on here, but with social media it gets so twisted. Yes. So I think if you're doing short format videos, you've gotta be pretty snappy and not do anything that's too controversial. I don't know. Some people do controversial stuff to get the views.

SPEAKER_02 8:16

Yeah, I think it depends what your skin can handle.

SPEAKER_00 8:19

Yeah. And what you want to see from it. So I've got to the point now where I'm like, if I don't want to post today, I'm not posting today. And if I don't want to talk about what's going on in the news, I'm not gonna talk about it. Christ, if we were talking about the news, we'd be screwed. Literally. We'd be here for a long, old time. Um but that has come from a place where I really, in the nicest possible way, I don't care what people think about what I post. Do you care what your close friends think? If about your posting. If Etherbex or Neve rung me up and said you shouldn't have done that, I would take their decision or their opinion And reevaluate. Very wholly, yeah. What if it was me? Yes. I would trust what you were saying. You didn't put me on that list. Yeah, I think it's just because you're here. I just didn't because I'm talking too much. Didn't think about you. I didn't think about you, alright? No, but I would be that I'd probably be the first person to message you to be like You'd be the most brutally honest one out of all of them. We have had this chat today, unfortunately. I'm that friend that I need that says it how it is, and I'm not afraid to say it as it is, and I say it as it is, and then I go to Maria, did you want to hear that or not? And then you always go, No, I needed to hear that, as much as I don't want to hear that.

SPEAKER_02 9:46

Well, usually I'm the honest friend to everyone else. It's nice to have it back. Like, don't get me wrong, those three girls I've listed will always give me honesty. Should I want honesty?

SPEAKER_00 9:56

Yeah, but should I want a powdered coating, they will automatically know I want a powdered coating. Do you know what I mean? I don't think I've got that in me. No, you don't. I don't know. I think that's all I've known is just say it as it is, like that there is no sugar coat in certain things, and all I do is give you the information that you need to make a decision. Yeah. If you should make a certain decision. I find with you you strengthen your what I'm already thinking. Yeah, I drive me confidence to make a decision. I question Maria. Maria says a certain thing, and then I go, Well, you said that, so you must have said that for a reason.

SPEAKER_02 10:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:43

You didn't just come to me with a problem for me to go, oh no, it's absolutely fine. Have you been to therapy before? Hypnotherapy. Does she get you to explain things? Like, think about why things have happened. Um, so my first one, she's very much like, she would never put words in my mouth. She would go, how do you feel about this? Like, what would be your best outcome? Because you give me therapist vibes. I've not been to therapy before. But if I were to like, I would say it's a brutal therapy with me. If I went to therapy, I'd expect them to talk to me like you talk to me. I'd hope they'd say it nicely. Well, I'm not gonna go to a therapist that goes, Do you want me to hold your hand when I say this? No, I don't. I didn't tell you earlier and say it. She did, and I thought, you're paying for this five pounds. Yeah, I didn't charge her, but no, I would like if I was in certain situations, I would want a friend to say to me what they thought, and then it's up to me what I do with those thoughts. But I don't want to go home to Scott and say, I thought this, and not say it to your face. Yeah, I doubt I'd ever talk about Scott about certain things because he's a bloke, he's a bloke. I probably just wouldn't go to him. Um, but I'd always rather say it to somebody's face.

unknown 12:02

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 12:02

If you're gonna talk about it behind their back, you should say it to their face. And that's why I've always said, if I don't like you, you sure as hell will know about it. Because I'll never say it behind your face. Behind your face? Behind your back. That's it. I mean it's the same thing, isn't it? Face back. Behind you, yeah, just behind me. Yeah. So, yeah, I think it's a weird world we live in now where there's a lot of jealousy. Um I do think it is because social media is so easily available. You can easily go onto your phone and compare, not knowingly, but you can compare yourself to what someone else is doing. Like you're logging what brand they're wearing, you're logging what hair colour they've got, you're logging their weight gain or loss, you're, I don't know, logging how happy they are that day. Whether you know it or not, subconsciously your brain is always analysing. Do you think there's people out there like watching followers' numbers? Because I know for me, I know for me, and I know probably for you, I'm gonna say you're probably the same. Yes, we look at numbers, but I wouldn't necessarily I definitely think since starting this, numbers don't mean a lot. They don't. We've started to realise that actually they're not important. No, like, and I don't mean that from a point of view that oh, maybe you've we've dropped some followers lately, we haven't, but if we had, we're not saying it because of that, we're saying it because actually they really, really do not matter. Like, how have we got thousands of people listening to us blabber on each week about shit? I don't even know what we end up talking about, and it's just carnage, and that's created a stronger community than posting oh my god, I get so many more messages, like nice messages being like, oh my god, blah blah blah. Oh, it's so nice to listen to the podcast. And I speak to so many more people because I feel there is that connection. Yes, whereas over on our Instagram pages as such, it didn't bring as much personal touch. No, I don't feel people knew me or you as well. Yeah, but now if you're listening to us go on every week, it's slightly different.

SPEAKER_02 14:18

We both started this kind of with the idea that neither of us really share our personal lives online.

SPEAKER_00 14:25

We share our work and we share the bits we want to, but here we share it all. Like the last episode, I shared that I was having a bad day. I was gonna say the death of a lamb, but we'll go with that. And I didn't share that on my social media because that would have just that would have been seen as the worst thing in the world.

SPEAKER_01 14:47

Game over, you're a bad farmer.

SPEAKER_00 14:48

I know, but on here I can explain myself, I can say I did everything I could, blah, blah, blah. Like it's I don't know. It would be great if social media could be split completely into a farming side, into a gamer side, and whatever else. But there would still be the same amount of bitchiness. I don't yeah, but I think like more a case of bitch. I know this episode's about bitching, but when it comes to like livestock deaths or something, yeah, people will just understand more. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:21

And that everyone gets it. And if you're listening to this again, oh my neighbour never gets it, or oh, we never get it. Someone is hiding dead stock, all right?

SPEAKER_00 15:30

Like, I all along I've said, Oh my god, I haven't had anything go wrong this season. Like, I've been beyond blessed, touch wood, until then, anyway. Yeah, that nothing had gone wrong. So I kind of knew it was coming. Can I also take this opportunity? We'll get back to the subject in just a second. Do you say this year has been a really bad year of lambing? And if you are listening to this right now, like being really hard on yourself and saying, Oh, I'm I've been terrible at lambing this year, I must have done something wrong. You haven't. This year is horrendous. I've I've noticed that it's across the board, everyone, every farmer is struggling with lambing this year. If you're not, you're incredibly blessed. And I'd like to clarify, I'm lambing like 15 sheep. I'm sat here saying I had a good lambing. I had 15 sheep. It's not the equivalent of you lambing 200 or 300. So as much as I can say it was good lambing, actually, I still had one dye out of how many lambs. When you look at percentages, probably works out about the same, actually.

SPEAKER_02 16:36

Yeah, maybe.

SPEAKER_00 16:37

I don't know. Don't ask me to do quick maths. I don't know what percentage that works out at.

unknown 16:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:42

But let's get back to the subject. Yes. Um what would you say is the most bitch situation you've ended up in because of jealousy? So my situation, I'd say, is slightly different because money is involved. Only fans creators. I would also like to mention she hasn't paid me any of her fivers. Anyway, carry on, please. Thank you. I offered you a tenner earlier. It was not a fiver. It was two fivers.

SPEAKER_02 17:15

I didn't see them stock together.

SPEAKER_00 17:16

Anyway, um, so yeah, I've got to be a bit more picky. Not picky, that's the wrong word. Selective on who I trust, who I let into my circle. I have friends, and then I have friends, and I think you you're the same, aren't you? Yeah. Um, so I'd say I've got three levels to be fair. What friends, good friend, you're basically my family. Yeah. Yeah. I yeah. Right, so you've got that with like Courtney, like she would be your family. She would know me inside and out. Literally. And then technically we've only met each other like for two weeks. Yeah. Which is mental, but we talk every day. And you guys have got such a connection. Yeah, and those are the friends that I value what they care. Um, if an acquaintance didn't like something, I'm not gonna worry about it. Um I think time is money. Money is time, I don't know how you want to put it. Yeah, I get you. And I it's precious, very precious. So I only surround myself with people I trust, and yeah, I think just gotta be careful. People want to use you, or they want to use me certain ways, like my work friends as such. You do have to be careful who you do collaborations with and things like that, because people can be out there to use you, and they could want you to make a podcast with them. I know that's why I'm in charge of the money, and you're not because I'm gonna rip you off. Um, yeah, try, but I know where you live. Don't know how much money's in the bank. Um, I'll find it. We don't make money from this. Um, anyway, what I'm trying to say is just very close with my inner circle. I have lots of friends, but very few people in my very close circle. And I think that's why all of my close friends are not OnlyFans creators or anything like that. Because you tend to associate your close friends with like similarities in work because that's how you bounce off one another. That's how our brain works. I know, but I quite like the opposite because I'm then don't have to overthink the friendship. Are you using me? Do you just see this as like a I don't know, a platform? Um, because maybe I have had friendships like that in the past.

SPEAKER_02 20:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:03

Um, there have been people out there that like obviously appreciate me helping them, and then there's some that I do feel that was just a stepping stone for them. So that's probably why I came back from the collaborations because it did get bitchy, and there were people that speak behind your back because you try and help them out, and then they go, Oh, she was seven-seven, blah blah blah, and it's like Christ, I was just trying to help, but won't be doing that anymore. So that's kind of why I took a step back from that because I didn't want the bitchiness, the same you get it at llama, it's all bitchiness and what have you. And I did notice that, and I don't know if I want to go again because of it. I don't think it will ever change though. That's what I mean. I don't know if I want to go again because of it. But yeah, I can go to Llama and all these comments can be said, but I'll go to my like serials event when nobody bat patens an eyelid there. But I liked sorry, carry on. No, you carry on. I liked Lama on the day. Yeah. Then after I went, not nothing to do with me and any of anyone's content or anything, but afterwards, it was just a hellhole online. Of and none of these were influencers as such or content creators doing anything wrong in their content.

SPEAKER_02 21:25

It was the creators and the other people that were complaining about them.

unknown 21:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:30

That I just thought this is making it such a horrible environment. And that's why I just, apart from you, I probably segregate myself from all the creators. Yes, we're all friends, there's no bitchiness there. But I just think if I'm not seen to be doing anything, you can't have anything to bitch about. There will still be something, don't get me wrong, and probably starting a podcast about talking about bitchiness is probably not my best way about it. But I just think if I take myself out of the situation. Surely that will solve it. Surely that will solve the problem, but no, it doesn't. Oh really? There's always a comment or two, isn't there?

SPEAKER_02 22:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:09

Right, we are gonna get into your guys' stories. Um, I'm gonna have to go and fetch my phone, and we are gonna get into some of your guys' stories with competition within farming, within agriculture, and women within agriculture. So I started up my meatbox business. It took me two years to build a loyal customer base, social media posts, farmers markets, freezer deliveries, the whole thing. And then suddenly another woman farmer down the road does the exact same thing. Same idea, same style boxes, even the same delivery style. At first, I tried to convince myself that it was just a coincidence until I saw the Instagram catch and sounded suspiciously familiar. Now, every time I see her, they just now every time we see each other, we just politely smile smile, but both of us know exactly what's going on. I call that a good I would take great pleasure in that because I know I just destroyed the room. Yeah, I know I would have thought of that, and if you are the person thinking of all the ideas, you're always going to be ahead of them. Yeah. If they're copying your ideas, and this is what like everyone's been like, oh, how do you feel about so-and-so doing air fresheners? To be fair, 99% of the time, most people do just come and say, Is that okay? And I'm like, I don't own the idea, it's it's absolutely fine.

SPEAKER_02 23:41

Yeah, because you can never copyright creativity.

SPEAKER_00 23:43

No, and I know at the end of the day, you're gonna buy whoever's air fresheners you want to have, it doesn't matter, we've all got space here. Um, but at the same time, I always knew that that was my idea. I knew nobody could take that away from me because I would always have the upper hand on thinking of new products, thinking ahead, thinking of the business plan. Yeah, because whilst they're thinking about air fresheners, you've already moved on to the next thing. Yeah, while they're busy copying, I'm on to my next million. Do you know what I mean? So that one I would take great pleasure in. I know it's still not easy. How would you feel if you started up a business and someone just copied? I think if they didn't tell me first, I'm very old-fashioned in the sense that I if you're down the road from me. Yeah, I was gonna say it says down the road, it doesn't say they were friends. Yeah, if they're not friends, then it doesn't really matter. Still down the road, so like if it's local from the fact that now they only smile at each other. They knew each other before. They must do. Because what else would you do as someone you don't know? But obviously, meatboxes are becoming a lot more common these days. They are, which is amazing. It is great. Um, therefore, it's not a unique idea, but I guess captions are quite familiar, maybe. Maybe I don't know. Um it's like um, I guess I've got a similar situation in that when there are a few Facebook pages that are stealing my content. Oh, we've seen those, Maria. Um, there's two now. Oh, they've got another one, I know. Lots of views.

SPEAKER_02 25:28

Um it doesn't bother me because I think that's still my face, you're still promoting me.

SPEAKER_00 25:33

Yeah, and as long as they're not scamming people, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:35

As long as you're not getting money out of anyone, they're probably making money off my videos, but as long as they're not taking it from the viewers. Yeah. I'm just over it. I don't care, go for it.

SPEAKER_00 25:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:50

I'm not saying go and steal my content, I'm just saying like you're not making me cry myself to sleep.

SPEAKER_00 25:54

Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. That's the main thing. So there is a girl online who is absolutely smashing it. Big following, sponsorships, media features, the whole thing. I catch myself sometimes thinking it's all about Instagram farming. But if I'm honest, a part of me just thinks I'm just jealous. So that's from the other side. That's really honest. I'll give it to her, that's honest. That that is growth. If you can openly say that, yeah, halfway there. But actually, I think that goes back to us saying we only post what you want us to see.

SPEAKER_03 26:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:36

You might not be watching, listening to the podcast, or like someone else might not have a podcast where they're opening up to half of their life. I think I've always had a very healthy way of looking at it. That, like, if I'm gonna use you for example, um let's say you've always had a bigger following than me, haven't you? And I've never taken that, obviously, Girlfriend Maria out of it. Oh, okay. Um like in terms of just the let's go with just Instagram, maybe. Yeah, you've always had a bigger following on there. Um, I would always say you've always had a bigger presence on Instagram, but I would never be jealous of that because I see it as inspirational. Okay. I see it as an aim rather than a barrier between us. No, I'm gonna say. I'm gonna be really horrible here. I can take this out if you want me to. That means that you look at followers. Do you check numbers quite often? No. So I wouldn't have a clue your numbers. Yeah, no, no, no. I just wondered, like do you compare?

SPEAKER_02 27:46

No. I was just trying to use an example so the listener could understand.

SPEAKER_00 27:51

That's fine. I just wondered because I think it's quite easy for other people to compare if they're starting off their social media. I couldn't even tell you what I'm on at the minute. No, I can never remember.

SPEAKER_02 28:02

I know you're up in the hundred thousands, but that's all I know.

SPEAKER_00 28:05

But that is also it's important to remember that can be people can gain a following from a couple one video or one video goes viral and then a couple more go viral. So as much as you can see somebody going viral, it doesn't mean that I think the only thing I pay attention to is like the quality of content.

SPEAKER_02 28:25

Does that make sense? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:27

Like the more I see you on my page, the more I think you've got quality content. And when I say you, I mean anyone that comes up. Yeah, because it must be boosting it. The more often I see you come up on my FYP, the more I get to know you, the more I just like your content. Okay. We like that. We like that. I just want to use an example that was easily you know, that's fine. I just I just wondered. No, that's fine, it's a good question. I had a stall at a local farmer's market where I was selling the veg that I had grown. Two stall holders were whispering about my veg business, saying how I probably buy half of it in, and I'm not a real farmer anyway. The twist. One of them is another woman farmer or woman in agriculture who is publicly talking all the time about women supporting women in agriculture, but I'm sold out by midday. Good on you. Who cares? As long as you're selling it, like you're not misleading when you're when you're selling it, if you like grew the veg and you're selling it as homegrown, yeah, fine. If you're selling it homegrown and you've bought it in, bit different, bit different. But if you've made it clear, I bought it in and I'm selling it.

unknown 29:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:53

This is all truthful.

SPEAKER_02 29:54

There's a difference between local veg and homegrown veg.

SPEAKER_00 29:57

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 29:59

The difference between local is it covers your ass should you need to ask your neighbour or whoever else.

SPEAKER_00 30:04

But also, I think that's very good on getting farmers closer together.

SPEAKER_02 30:07

I agree.

SPEAKER_00 30:08

Because I know um well we went for lunch actually, they do like a veg box for Christmas and they get all like the local farmers, they get the veg from them and then do the veg boxes so it's locally sourced. I strongly believe every customer of farmers should get together and sell their veg and meat and milk together. So that's quite good about the place that we go to is that they've got the meat vending machine, they've got the veg shed, and they've got the milkshakes, and they've got the hot food. Yeah. In the fact that everything is locally sourced, therefore, it is a good place for someone to get all of their stuff knowing it's local. I would also, with what she sent in there, I would also say concentrate on all the positives, like you sold out by midday. The more you keep concentrating on the positives that have happened, the more you train your brain to not concentrate on the things that didn't go quite as planned. Yeah. So the more you say, I've done really well today, like I actually sold out before lunch. Like, I'm really capable of that. You're reinforcing your brain all the time that next time something like that happens, we're only gonna concentrate on what happened well, and also selling stuff in person is so much harder nowadays. Like, I think we're all quite disconnected. Well, no, I'm gonna say I I can't say much, but I'm very used to selling online, doing the social media, blah blah blah. But actually, going to a farmer's market or a local market or anything like that and selling it, two people face to face. Actually, good on you, because not a lot of it is all face-to-face, and it's all about like outsourcing or putting it in a local farm shop and not having your face on it. It's definitely an achievement.

SPEAKER_02 31:59

Yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_00 32:00

You look like you wanted to yawn then.

SPEAKER_02 32:01

I did want to yawn for a second. Yeah, sorry. Really tried to hold it in. Now I'm gonna go. I just judge someone by how many fibers they have in their pocket, not fifties.

SPEAKER_00 32:13

I don't at all. Don't the little fucker. So we're not gonna go into detail. There's an ongoing problem. We don't fancy going into it. We'll once the whole thing's sorted, we'll sort it. Um I crashed my UTV the other week. You've heard the story. Yeah, it's fine. I'm not I crashed my UTV the other day. Um yeah, I can say I crashed it. Woman driver. I didn't I'm not gonna go into details. Wasn't my fault. Anyway. Um anyway, so the dealer is coming to pick up the UTV. And I say to Scott, save me coming literally just back to the yard just to empty stuff. Any chance you could just take out anything that needs to be taken out of like the side doors and the all your little hidden pockets. Yeah, glove box. Yeah. Anyway, goes and does it. Lovely job, thank you, Scott. Anyway, go with my mum and stepdad to go and see the sheep, and literally the guy is there to pick up my UTV and open up the door because I can't remember what I went in there for. I can't remember what what was going on. Anyway, open up the door. I had cash in there from when I paid my shearer in cash. There was 90 quid in there. No, actually. Did you not pay your shearers? Yeah, I did. But I just took an envelope that I had of cash. Yeah, and just and just took the cash out and put it in the side door because I was in a rush at the time. And basically, we didn't have a going rate at that point. We've worked out a going rate now, but I didn't know how much he was gonna be. And so I just I just chucked the cash in there. I didn't think anything of it. So anyway, it's in the side door, £150 note, and so four tens. Literally in the side door.

SPEAKER_02 34:20

Scott didn't even notice.

SPEAKER_00 34:23

Thought that was a tip for him. No, so I rang him up being like they would have thought that was like bribery, probably, and so I rang Scott up. I was like, Did you forget the 90 quid in the door? He was like, What are you on about? I was like, There was 90 quid in the door. He goes, No, there wasn't. I was like, Scott, there was four people there. They're definitely worse. Men. That is really also sorry, getting a bit sidetracked here. I'm in big trouble. This is okay to go on the podcast. Okay. Because I'm gonna give shit to Scott's friends that watch this. Jason, got my eye out for you. Yeah? Hear that, Jason? Yeah? Jason, you're in trouble. Screen recording, a podcast of me outing Scott. And our films, Madagascar and Over the Hedge and things, put it on the boys' group chat, didn't they? So now I can't bitch about Scott on here because it goes straight on the boys' pog on the boys' group chat.

SPEAKER_01 35:28

Scotty, look what I be saying about you. Scotty, look.

SPEAKER_00 35:32

I think it's fucking rude. Leave the girl alone. This is a safe space. I created this safe space.

SPEAKER_02 35:38

If you're not a safe person, go away.

SPEAKER_00 35:42

Okay, so it's no longer a safe place for me to bitch about Scott.

unknown 35:45

You horrible.

SPEAKER_00 35:46

Anyway, horrible man. We have gone on to Goggle Box now. We've gone off of films.

SPEAKER_02 35:52

I don't want to say anything, just so they can record it and send it back. You know he's waiting now with his screen record ready to go.

SPEAKER_00 35:59

Um, no, I was gonna out Jason for something, but I can't be bothered. I don't fancy the drama.

unknown 36:04

I actually don't know.

SPEAKER_00 36:05

I don't have any drama on him. Yeah, well, actually I've heard that Jason sells pictures of his hose. Fair. If you to make good money from it, fair. So there you go. Screen record that one. It's so gonna be on the boys group chat. I was so gonna be in trouble.

SPEAKER_02 36:25

If you've got a problem, call me on my work number.

SPEAKER_00 36:29

Do you know your work number?

SPEAKER_02 36:30

No. Call me on it, yeah? We'll discuss it then. Alright, back to it. I think that's told him where to go.

SPEAKER_00 36:41

Right. There's another farmer near me who breeds the same cattle as I do. I really thought you were gonna go for a Ashley line. Breathes the same air as me. Sorry, carry on. We've known each other for years, shared advice, compared breeding lines, and even helped each other out during calving. But livestock sales are funny things. One year we bought animals in the same sale, and I remember standing by the ring watching her heifer go through first. It sold really well, better than most of the others that day. Everyone was congratulating her, and I was really pleased for her. She worked worked hard on that cow, but then my heifer went into the ring next. As the bidding started to climb, I realised something slightly uncomfortable about myself. I really wanted to sell mine for more than hers. Not because I wanted to see her fail, but because breeding stock is such a personal thing. You pull years into those bloodlines when my heifer eventually sold for a bit higher, she hugged me and said how brilliant it was, and I hugged her back. But inside I had that tiny competitive voice going, yes, just a little bit higher. And then I realised friendship and competition in farming can really exist at the same time.

SPEAKER_02 38:02

That's really interesting.

SPEAKER_00 38:05

I I don't think that's like a competitive bitchiness. That is just wanting to see your animals do well. And I I've not sold at market before. I'll always go straight to abattoir. Yeah, I've not sold it at auction. So maybe I will when it comes to selling some Rams, but at the moment I've not gotten you would want more than to do better than anyone's.

SPEAKER_02 38:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:33

But I think everyone knows you'd rather it go to a good home than money.

SPEAKER_02 38:37

Yeah, I suppose it's slightly different. When it comes to business, it is slightly different, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 38:42

Because also you need that money to pull back into your own business.

SPEAKER_02 38:46

Well, business is always gonna be competition. I'd like to think it's always healthy competition, but I think that's always to a certain extent, maybe.

SPEAKER_00 38:56

You're not when that scenario happens and one beats the other, neither of you are gonna get any backlash, any bad like you're not gonna I don't know what the word is, it's not gonna reflect badly on that other person. Make it fun, yeah. Put a put a paper on it. Yeah, put a fibre on it. Only cash.

SPEAKER_02 39:20

We only want the green ones. Are they blue now? What? A fiver, what colours? Fiverr, green or blue. See, no one's paid me in that long, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 39:32

There was a rumour going around about another farmer in our area that someone was buying in animals and selling them as our own breeding stock. As our own, no, as her own. Spelling mistake there. Um, I never actually repeated it myself, but definitely didn't stop it either. Um, I heard people talking about it um at the mart one day. I just stood there, didn't defend her, didn't say anything. If I'm honest, a small part of me that were was glad some people were questioning her. There's a lot of confessions. I thought this was gonna be like a proper. I was gonna thinking that it was everyone getting the bitch in it then, but it's all these confessions. It is confessions. We must have put something up where people have gone or confess now. Um, I get that one though, because honesty. Surely you can't if well that's the good thing about pedigree. You can only register it if you've bred it yourself.

unknown 40:38

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 40:39

Do you grassroots yours? For mine, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I thought you would have to. It's a complicated old site. Do you need a lesson? Please. Oh, that's fine. We do it over FaceTime. Um just bring your laptop. Do it once we you finish lambing. How long do you have to register and lamb? I've got like a year. Oh really? Yeah, you've got 12 months. Oh. That's right. Yeah, so once you finish, done your last one, just bring your laptop and then when it came to Hereford, you had to you had a certain amount of days to register them, I believe. I could be wrong, but if I remember rightly. And I think it had to be done by post. I think it is can someone tell us if we're wrong. I think grassroots is twelve months. I hope so. That would be very nice. Cushley. No pressure. I thought they probably have to be registered before showing, though. Yeah, but I you'll be done nowing before showing. How long do you have to register pedigree sheep?

SPEAKER_01 41:55

Glass. A grass root? Would you like to know how long it takes for grass or roots?

SPEAKER_00 42:06

So pedigree sheep should genuinely be registered on the grassroots system within a year of birth, with a strict deadline often falling between the 31st of October and 30th of November. Oh, so it's dates. Oh, hold on. Are you borderless?

SPEAKER_02 42:25

Whilst Abby is typing, I'll sing you a song. This song is a really good song.

SPEAKER_01 42:40

Oh, what?

SPEAKER_00 42:41

Oh no, that's just tagged. Or tattooed. When does tag or tattoo? Borderless lambs must be genuinely tagged or tattooed by June 15th of their birth year. Registration ensures that lambs are properly identified with their flock number and birth year before they are sold or leaving breeders' possession. Oh, okay. So I just do it before the 15th of the Yes, hope please. I can do that. Thank you, hope please. Has everybody been moved over to your classroom?

SPEAKER_02 43:22

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SPEAKER_00 43:47

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SPEAKER_02 44:13

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SPEAKER_00 44:23

Great advert. Great promoting. Cool. Thanks for that. If you want one of the hoodies, thefarmofowls.com. I think I've got it covered, mate. You've got it sorted. It's sorted. Thank you for another week of Carnage. Bye for now. Bye.