The HD Experience
Hunter Dawkins, owner and publisher of The Gazebo Gazette, covers Mississippi high school and college sports like no one else. Join Hunter and his special guests as they bring the best in what's happening in sports on the Mississippi Gulf Coast.
The HD Experience
The HD Experience Episode 41: High School Football
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The HD Experience Episode 41: High School Football
HOST: Hunter Dawkins - Owner/Publisher of the award-winning newspaper - The Gazebo Gazette, Sports Correspondent SuperTalk Mississippi News, Gulfport High Radio Host G96.7, Member of the Football Writers Association of America (FWAA, Heisman Voter), Member of the Associated Press Sports & Editors (APSE)
PRODUCER: Jeff Clark - Award-Winning Journalist, Multimedia/Podcast Host, South Alabama Beat Writer, Director for the Harrison County Senior Services
GUESTS:
- Jack Wright - Head Football Coach of Mississippi Gulf Coast Community College, 2x NJCAA National Champion
- Jeff Stockstill - Pass Christian High School Head Football Coach, 2025 Region 8-4A Champion, 2x MHSAA State Champion
- Joseph W. Gex II - St. Stanislaus Track & Field Coach, Sea Coast Echo/The Gazebo Gazette Sports Reporter, Ole Miss Beat Writer
- Matt "Stats" Toth - Mississippi Gulf Coast High School Sports Analyst, Mississippi Gulf Coast Community College Broadcast
- Dale McKee - Pine Belt sportswriter, Radio Broadcast Host of "The Brouhaha" on WABO 105.5FM with Marshall Wood
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SPEAKER_11Here's your host, Hunter Dawkins.
SPEAKER_07Good afternoon. My name is Hunter Dawkins, the host of the HD Experience. This is the 41st episode of the Mississippi Gulf Coast Sports Podcast, sponsored by the Gazebo Gazette, the Harrison County Independent newspaper here on the coast, the Beau Revage Resort and Casino in Biloxi, which, as we know, Jeff, we had uh River Dance played this weekend, which I heard it was pretty good. We have Shrek, you know, which is coming up. That's the big show for the summer, at least coming in later on this month. Nine Toes Brewing Company in Pascushan, who has live music every weekend. Dwyer Realty Agent, Stephanie Mankwitz, and we'll be hearing from her pretty soon also. Joseph Kelly, attorney at law, Coast Casual in Pascracian, who is having great summer deals, and Caitlin is planned to open another shop really soon, from what I've heard. And uh the Rotary Club of Pascan's Paddle the Bay Fundraiser, which will be here next weekend. Right on the insurance barn in Gulfport. And I got a new sponsorship from my very good friend Richie Valdez, who is handling the Mississippi Deep Sea Fishing Rodeo, a big, huge event July 4th weekend in Jones Park, and we can't do anything but promote the all good out of that because that's the big fishing show in Mississippi. And we are always, Jeff, in the U.S. Marine Inc. Studio. Jeff, this is something new. We're now we're here. We're we're here, we're real people.
SPEAKER_04We're doing it in video, man. We're uh we're gonna have our YouTube channel, which uh we'll share out the link once uh once we get that set up. This will be our first week of going video, and it's uh it's time. 42nd. That's what you said, 42nd episode.
SPEAKER_0741st.
SPEAKER_0441st. Well, getting ahead of ourselves. But uh, hey, what a what a what a what a great thing it's been, man. Um we're almost at the year mark. You know, you're you're doing a great job. You do it week after week, you get the great guest, and uh, you know, it to use your only your own words, it's only gonna get better.
SPEAKER_07So and of course, to the audience, I'm here with my wonderful producer of the show, also a good friend of mine. Jeff is a well-accomplished, Jeff Clark is a well-accomplished award-winning journalist, South Alabama beat writer, and director of Harrison County Senior Services. Jeff, I hope you're doing well.
SPEAKER_04I am, Hunter. You know, today is Mark's the third uh year since I had my heart attack. So, man, I'm just glad to be here, dude.
SPEAKER_07You know, God bless you. Um the theme, our theme is high school football, you know, is everybody's wondering, well, what's gonna happen during the offseason? Now, of course, we still have a little bit of college baseball going on. Obviously, Mississippi State was unlucky with their uh their loss today, but they played hard as heck, playing on the road twice, losing you know, in an extra inning game today, and by one run yesterday, you really can't really say well they didn't try, they didn't really have the effort.
SPEAKER_04They did blow a seven-point lead yesterday. But hey, who's counting? Great season, guys.
SPEAKER_07But you know, they at least went it was all game long. It was back and forth back.
SPEAKER_04Sure. It was exciting. Let's talk about those rebels.
SPEAKER_07Of course, and you know, we'll have Caleb Saylors on next week, not this week, of course. He'll be coming probably from Omaha, from what I'm hearing at least. And uh they Ole Miss Rebels, you know, take it to Auburn on the road in Auburn.
SPEAKER_04In Auburn.
SPEAKER_07I'm not sure if uh if that's something of cheer for you or not, one way or the other.
SPEAKER_04I I would I I like it. I I would like it if if uh Auburn lost at uh Steve Sarkeesian's basket weaving course. I'm gonna you know, I'm an Alabama Ole Miss guy unabashedly, so go Ole Miss, go Rebs, go Black Bears, whatever, just keep on. Punch the ticket to Omaha. Out of all the teams we predicted, I don't know. I I I felt it was going to be state or southern, but I'm super happy that it's old miss, you know.
SPEAKER_07Of course, nobody really predicted it to be an old miss, that's that's for sure. And especially with the their really coming into the tournament, you know, kind of falling by the wayside, but then of course winning the regional, the toughest regional in the nation in in Lincoln, and then beating Auburn head to head twice in a row, that was a great thing. And we'll talk with our Ole Miss people next week, too. But covering high school football this week, you know, we've got some coaches, we've got some analysts, we it's it's that time of year, Jeff. I know you're you're like, ah, geez, I've got a lot. No, it's and you think about it, it's just a few number of weeks.
SPEAKER_04What six weeks? Pretty much, you know, six to eight weeks. I mean, look, man, I I miss covering pass high. Like, I I just had the best time covering pass high last year. And I mean, it was easy, right? Because they're winning, they're doing great. Um, that that pass high Long Beach game still stands out in my mind, you know. Oyster Bowl. Yeah, the oyster, the the the gazebo Gazette Oyster Bowl. Right. Um which I look forward to that. Um, you know, went to Wes Harrison a few times. They started out hot out the gate, had a great running back, and uh, you know, I I I love high school football, man.
SPEAKER_07Pretty soon, Jeff, coaches are gonna start telling you, hey, you know, you want to show up more? Because you didn't see a whole lot of losses last year.
SPEAKER_04Right. Right. Yeah, like I said, it it was it was very as I've told Jeff Stockstell, it was very easy to cover past high last year because they were killing it, you know.
SPEAKER_07And uh especially when when Paris is the quarterback.
SPEAKER_04And that that's again this year, right?
SPEAKER_07100%. Right. But I know we've got uh we've got to get going here pretty soon. We've got a coach coming in, so we'll let uh let it happen.
SPEAKER_04All right, we'll be right back.
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SPEAKER_07Would love to welcome my first guest, Mississippi Gulf Coast Community College coach Jack Wright, the head football coach for MGCC. Coach Wright has won two national junior college championships during his eight seasons coaching. Coach Wright, how are you?
SPEAKER_06I'm great. How are you guys?
SPEAKER_07We're doing well. We're doing well. You know, our theme is high school football. And I know that's not exactly, you know, you're you're at the next level, but I know how important high school football is to you and to the rest of the junior colleges, at least right now, especially when it comes to recruiting. Just give me a background of what you guys, if if you're recruiting now or if you're just kind of following high schools along right now during the off season, just until you guys get started on the fall camp.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, of course, uh recruiting never stops. Um that's the lifeblood of the program. And um coaching actually gets a lot easier when you do a good job recruiting. So um we had uh three camps on our campus this week Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. We had our O-line camp Monday, our skills camp on Tuesday, and a youth camp Wednesday. And um what's kind of a trend for us is um we've got you know seven coaches on our staff. Well, three or four of us are on the road all the time uh with some of these mega camps and camps at Division I schools. I'm on the way home. And now there was a camp uh at a Division I school we were invited to. There were a hundred kids there, and all of them were high school guys, most of them the class of 27. So we're just trying to canvas and um you know build relationships, figure out who these uh kids are in the next class. And it's a big job. It takes a lot of time to wade through all that information.
SPEAKER_07You know, coach, and especially when you brought up a little segue to that about recruiting-wise, you know, I know I've asked you this before, but I'm just trying to remember what the the level, you know, how how is this transfer portal affecting y'all at least not only through recruiting purposes, but is it uh or is your relationship with high school coaches or your relationship with Division I coaches, how has that been affected?
SPEAKER_06Um I would say that um you know the relationships between us and high school coaches has never been better. Um high school coaches are are really trying hard, especially on the coast. I got, I mean, no coach Bramlett, Coach text messages with film and stats and just kind of giving you a heads up on the on the next class. Um we've always had great help uh from the high school coaches. Um I'll I would say that the uh the the relationship with the four-year schools is a little strained um because um a lot of them want our guys, you know, they want guys that have played. Um and sometimes, you know, it may not be the right fit for the kid or whatever at a certain Division I school. And um, you know, we we try to explain all that. And you know, we we we see all these situations. You know, we see that what the kids are getting, what they're being promised, and and some kids um, you know, quite honestly, are better served at and playing at a junior college than than to go someplace with with no guarantees, no money, um, you know, some things like that. So it's getting diff more and more difficult um sometimes with the four-year schools, but the high school coaches have been have been awesome.
SPEAKER_07Coach, I know you're aware of this back in the day because this is obviously when you were coaching up uh in the Northeast or so. Um when there was like a Cam Newton scenario, do you guys ever come across that type scenario where you got a kid that's coming from a Division I but really wants to get some playing time? But you know, it's kind of impossible now, I'm sure, with the the money that's flowing. Um, do you guys get that scenario anymore? Or is that just a in the past style of situation?
SPEAKER_06No, we we actually signed eight division one transfers over the Christmas break, and we've signed two more um since the kids have been out of school, you know, in the last three weeks, and we want to sign some more. Um so yeah, we we get those situations. Every situation's different. Um, you know, if there's a coaching change in a division one school, um, you know, those of that affects playing time and and guarantees that were made with the previous staff. And a lot of times kids just find themselves needing to go to a JUCO. And the number one reason for that is they need to play. They need to put it on film. Maybe they didn't play where they were, didn't see where they were going to crack the depth chart, but the kids need to play. And if they play well for us, then their value goes up. And that that's been a pretty easy, pretty easy pitch the last three or four years.
SPEAKER_07What's the level of, you know, I remember when I was coaching way back a long time ago, coach, and you know, you and I are close to the same age, but uh, but that being said, when I was coaching back a while ago and I'd go to coaching clinics and Coach Saban was there, obviously, and I went to one of the camping clinics and and listening to him, you know, he explained about how much uh how important it was to have high school coaches being able to teach because instead of all this just worrying about tackling, worrying about wins this where this way and that, but because of us the high school coaches are supposed to be teaching, do you guys ever run into that problem where you have high school players that come up, they're really unbelievably talented, but the coaching staff, whether it be for a good reason or not, or maybe they've had switching of coaches here and there, you have to virtually teach the players techniques and things like that to get up the board.
SPEAKER_06We do that anyway. I mean, we we teach from square one. Um we're we're very basic. Um we we assume the kids know nothing when they get to us. Now, some kids do, you know, we get some kids from some great programs, but but we uh we teach from square one. The number one thing we teach is is blocking and tackling and effort. Very basic blocking technique, uh, very basic tackling technique. And I think I think my coaching staff is among the best in the country at teaching fundamentals out of just out of necessity, you know, with us not expecting anything uh to be known previously from our players. So I I we've got a great staff that teaches fundamental football.
SPEAKER_07Well, coach, we wish you the best of luck. Let us know if there's anything we can do for you. We uh we definitely look forward to following you and uh hopefully we'll get you on again.
SPEAKER_06Sounds good.
SPEAKER_07It's been a pleasure. Thank you guys.
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SPEAKER_07And now we have our next guest. We would love to introduce Asperchan High School Football Coach, Athletic Director, the 2025 NHSA District 84A champion, and the two-time Mississippi High School Athletic Association State Championship coach, Jeff Stockstill coach. I know you guys had the the golf tournament. Well, I don't know about the golf tournament this week or not because there was a little bit of weather yesterday. I know it's a little early on, and I know you guys are just before July 4th, but I see you guys out there practicing every day trying to go over some, I guess, some fundamentals and things like that.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_07Kind of let me uh know what's the what's the basis, what you guys are working on.
SPEAKER_02Well, pretty much uh this time of year, uh, we want to after spring training ended, we gave our kids a week or two off trying to get a break from sports and all that stuff. Uh so this first week, probably week and a half, we'll spend primarily in a weight room and condition and trying to get our guys' muscles back in shape, getting them used to the get them outside, get them used to the heat and stuff like that. And uh being a Foray school, we're we're probably gonna have about 20 kids that play other sports. And you'll have some baseball kids and you'll have some foot basketball kids and some soccer kids. So they'll come with us first thing in the morning, get their weightlifting in, and uh we'll do some conditioning and some running around and stuff like that. Uh, we take our team to the beach and we do some running around in the sand just to just to help strengthen some joints, some knees and ankles. And then, you know, those kids will go off to their other sports and practice later on in the day. And uh, we're doing that a couple of times a week. Uh, next week we got a seven-on-seven schedule with the football team. So we'll go do that. And uh, once these other sports start winding down, then we'll start picking back up with the with the heavy, the heavy lifting for the for the football, as far as fundamentals and things like that. Uh, we do that pretty much every day, all year. So uh here in the next next couple weeks, uh we'll we'll start focusing on our next opponent. We're gonna scrimmage West Harrison into fall, Jamboree, and then we'll play Long Beach, uh, Purvis and PCS to open up first three weeks of the season. So we'll start working on some game plan specific stuff uh probably the uh next couple weeks.
SPEAKER_07Now, coach, I've never asked you this, but of course, this is the right time to do that. You know, I know, and I'm not trying to knock north of I-10 schools, and I know you've got a great history of doing that, of coaching uh north of I-10 schools, and we're very successful. What are the benefits of coaching a football team on the coast? Like I know you talked about with the sand and working on the joints and possibly scheduling teams out of Louisiana and Alabama for seven-on-seven things. Sure. Give me some of the benefits versus what you would at a rural area style school.
SPEAKER_02Well, I've worked at uh I've worked at four or five rural high schools, and uh unfortunately, those areas are gonna be uh a lot of the population is gonna be below the poverty line, and uh you know they're gonna have limited resources and things like that. So uh as far as the coast is concerned, there they're way, way more resources. There's more. people. There's more people around your program that's willing to help. The schools are going to be able to employ more more teachers. So you can have a you're going to have a couple more coaches than you would at a small at a at a school that wasn't that didn't have those resources. The facilities, the schools are going to are going to invest in their facilities. You know, pass Pass got the turf field around 2018, 2019. And then within the past 36 months they put a $2 million renovation into a weight room and uh a locker room and a and a football facility. Really a multi-purpose weight room, but also renovated their football facility. Did the same thing for uh baseball softball a few years ago. So you're going to get a lot more resources that you can use to help get your team a little better. Now there's a lot of good athletes up in the north now I will say that there are some really really good really good football players up there. But as far as the schools are concerned unfortunately those areas are going to be be lacking in some in some uh some areas and mainly resources are mainly people around your program that's able to help you there's just a lot more people on the coast.
SPEAKER_07Yeah well and just like you said about the positives uh there's obviously without the athletic ability and not necessarily I would I'd kind of recheck that there was athletic ability but maybe there's not as much motivation because of different things in life happening down here you know versus that of living in rural Mississippi. I'm sure that you guys work on with those kids trying to avoid the scenarios uh you know I don't know you can go into that if you want but uh yeah I mean as far as that goes the the school resources like you had mentioned has that been a pretty good thing for you at least coming down here versus something like let's say where you're at Scott Central where they probably donate quite a bunch of money to the football program itself versus you know other things like performing arts and things as such.
SPEAKER_02Right. My last school we were really really small really rural and we we only offered probably eight sports uh pass pass has uh tremendous and that's one of the things that attracted me to the to apply for the job several years ago was the amount of resources that they do have. And uh my last job again we had some really good football players but fundraising was hard uh getting you know getting everything done and ready where you want it to be just so you can have your kids on the field you had to work a lot harder because you didn't have the resources or you didn't have the amount of people that could help. And uh and I will say this this uh there's no there's no difference in talent from the from the coast and anywhere else. Now that you're gonna have your pocket areas you're gonna have Starkville you're gonna have Madison you're gonna have the DeSoto area or maybe Oxford Warren Central you'll have your Louisville the Golden Triangle you'll have some pocket areas where they're just always really good in football. But across the board there's just as much talent on the coast as they're anywhere else. I think the main difference is those smaller school those rural area schools they prioritize high school football because they know that's why the boys are coming to school and they'll use that to to help motivate the boys to to be a little better in the classroom or maybe to get their attendance rate up a little bit better. But they prioritize it a lot more in the northern part of the state than they do on the coast. That's the only difference.
SPEAKER_07Sure, sure and as being an athletic director talking about that I mean is it I know you're a football coach first and I mean well I know you're at least from right now if in the fall time you're a football coach first. But that being said do you have to look at it how do you evaluate it from the bigger picture all the way across the board?
SPEAKER_02Well uh being an athletic director it's uh no again done this done this many years and the uh the school's going to give you a certain amount of resources and it's just up to me to to kind of spread the wealth a little bit to make sure each team each team has enough uh let's just say enough money in their budget to get the to get the players they you know get the players what they need to help their team compete uh you know you you may have you may have like uh recently we got the baseball team a a brand new pitching machine for their cage and we got the soccer team uh two new goals for uh two new game goals for for soccer season so just basically you you're kind of taking care of everybody uh you got your needs and your wants but we want to make sure all the teams have what they need to get on the field to practice to get on the field to play to give all the all the student athletes that pass I a good experience now you know how it is you can't guarantee wins but I could I could at least make a good effort to have to get those kids what they need so they at least have a good positive experience playing high school sports.
SPEAKER_07All right coach last question for you and I know this is kind of like once again I said it's kind of early you know as as myself and Dr. Evers the superintendent of Paschan School District you know had put this the game together about nine years ago now the Oyster Bowl uh with the sponsoring the oyster bowl that being said those are two basic communities that grew up playing football with each other playing against each other and it's kind of been some camaraderie you know there people from Long Beach know Past Christian people other way around what's important that you have been since you've been here at least in this game not so much the coaching staffs and all but from the communities one one to the other what uh what have you seen?
SPEAKER_02I think uh I think both both communities do a do an outstanding job supporting their their their local schools uh that's that's that and that's something you don't see all over Mississippi I will say that as well you know the schools both schools here do a good job supporting their student athletes both schools have nice outstanding facilities uh both super uh our superintendent is 100% supportive of of our athlete department of our coaches you know she wants us all to win she wants us all to compete uh but I I I enjoy I enjoy games like this because I think small town high school football is the fabric of America that's the that's the backbone of our sport.
SPEAKER_01I mean you don't we don't we don't we're not we're not on TV we're not in the big NILs we're not doing all the stuff that the big schools are doing and you know the colleges and the pros but high school football is the is the fabric and the and the backbone of that is high school football small town rivalry so always enjoy games like this just watch the people over the years come back and tell you stories of of what they did back when they played their rival 10 20 30 years ago coach always going to talk to you take care of yourself we'll be talking to you either right before the season or right right after the absolute thanks thanks for having me on Hunter take care all right looking for insurance coverage you can count on call the insurance barn a professional agency since 1959 the insurance barn writes all in one policies and offers coverage for homeowners fire flood commercial property auto boats motorcycles plus wind and hail protection visit them at 190221st Avenue in Gulfport call 22886 31647 or learn more online at the insurancebarn dot net the insurance barn protecting what matters most for generations United States Marine Inc.
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SPEAKER_07Stanislaus additionally Coach Jex is a sports reporter for the Gazebo Gazette and the Seacoast Echo and finally he is an Ole Miss Beat reporter but most importantly he covers all of the Stanislaus football games at least this year coach talk to me about before we get on talking about the Ole Miss Rebels and the the successfulness they've had on the baseball team which I know you're more than happy to talk about talk to me about with the MHSA has come up with this new it's called a multiplier and I'm just gonna let you go ahead and give the the audience the explanation that they're looking for.
SPEAKER_03Okay well Hunter uh great to hear from you thanks for having me on um the multiplier that the MHSAA um executive board passed on Tuesday this past Tuesday uh is a 1.5 multiplier across the board for all private schools uh throughout the state of Mississippi um and the way that they phrased it and the way that they put it forward was to um make the playing field uh more even because of the perception that private schools control their own enrollment now I came up in a different way than most people um around me my mother was the president of the Bay Waveland School District Board of Trustees my father was the attorney for the Hancock County School District for 29 years and I attended St. Stanislaus so I was able to hear discussions that most people around me did not know and going back as long as I can possibly remember and in September I will have been on this on this earth for 56 years private schools are always looking for students there's no need for them to control their enrollment. Why would they parents have to pay twice to send a child to private school so this equation of trying to level the playing field that the MHSA is coming up with um is a play on words. It's not even in the playing field. The 1.5 multiply there are 11 schools in the state of Mississippi that compete in the in the MHSAA as private schools several of them are down here on the Gulf Coast St. Stannis Lawson OLA in nearby Hancock County both participate in the MHSA and they are private. Then along the coast you have uh Resurrection in Jackson County and you have St. Patrick in Harrison County those make up the four schools in uh the lower three counties that compete in the MHSA that are private. And this 1.5 multiplier is going to be applied at this next enrollment classification restructuring period which happens every two years at the MHSAA. So that'll take place in October it'll be released probably sometime in November and it will it will show what the competition divisions will be per classification for the next two cycles the next two academic school years they do this every every two years. So that's what this 1.5 multiplier is going to be applied on however in Stannislos and OLA's case this multiplier of 1.5 times will not be applied according to Ricky Neves and his statement to Stace McCrainee the athletic director at St. Stannislos the reason for that is because both St. Stannislos and OLA currently operate under a 2.0 multiplier and have been doing so since 1982 when the MHSAA started to use enrollment as the denominator for classification purposes. Prior to that it did not exist. They they they apportioned them how they decided to do so and that was that was the birth of the division and the playoff format that we currently operate under in the state of Mississippi beginning in 1982.
SPEAKER_07Okay coach you know I've seen a lot of you know Louisiana they don't really do this multiplier but they've had a lot of teams for instance John Curtis switch to a number of different divisions because they would win state championships virtually in every single division they were set aside do you think this has anything to do with Presbyterian Christian in Hattiesburg that sort of came in and they just jumped the top of virtually every single sport they were in do you think that the MHSA is afraid of more schools following that same pattern just in MAIS that they that they wanted to do that?
SPEAKER_03Well there there's a couple different factors and aspects that apply to this um first of all we have to take a look at we have to take a look at the MAIS which is the Mid-South Association of independent schools um mid-south meaning not not meaning Mississippi but mid-south because the MAIS uh has schools from Arkansas and Louisiana that currently compete in the MAIS which is made up of probably 90% Mississippi schools Mississippi academies all right first of all we have to look back and see how the MAIS came into existence. Not many people really want to talk about this publicly but I'll do it I'll jump out there and be the first one to do it. I it doesn't bother me one bit MAIS was formed in roughly 1968 as a result of the Civil Rights Act which was supposed to open up integration in public schools as part of its as part of its aspect. Okay the National Civil Rights Act obviously is a lot larger than that but part of it was to open up public education to everybody um and not have schools that are integrated.
SPEAKER_07So this is what you're focused on one of the Mississippi and Louisiana and school areas like that state we know primarily I'm sure even though this was a total national thing I think it was more focused the Civil Rights Act obviously on states like Louisiana and Mississippi Alabama and things such well I mean you can you can call it what you want but um it was it was white flight leaving public schools when when the minority populations began to take over the overall student population.
SPEAKER_03All right so people want to people want to lump some of these some of these other private schools into the MAIS method of thinking but let me let me say this Saint Stannislos was founded in 1854 over 100 years prior to the purpose of these academies so for someone who's trying to lump St. Stannislos into this whole um recruiting philosophy of the MAIS schools that are beginning to jump ship and experiment with playing MHSA schools and possibly entering the MHSA as Presbyterian Christian did this past season uh that's completely unfair and it's unfounded because Stannislos existed in 1854 over 100 years prior to that they could the federal government wanted integration to come through and before Mississippi integrated Stannislos was already integrated in 1966. And they also had the very first um African American selected to the Mississippi High School All-Star game in basketball Curtis St.
SPEAKER_07Mary class in 1970 was the first black to play in the Mississippi School all-star basketball game came from Stannislos so anybody who's trying to lump Stannislos into that method of thinking is far from removed OLA the same way coach the same thing then you know let's say another MAIS school decides to jump those schools also have been known nowadays not necessarily for segregation but for recruiting purposes uh those schools especially in the Jackson area Jackson Prep Jackson Academy a lot of those schools you know will they want to have these number of kids to go to Ole Miss which of course there's uh quite a number of guys on the Ole Miss football team that are not quite a number but at least two or three you know uh that that are from Jackson Prep is that going to be somewhat a similar thing if those schools join the the MHSA because I I'm not even sure if MHSA has a rule against recruiting for those purposes or anything as such.
SPEAKER_03Well recruiting is a word that nobody likes to use okay in in any in any form or fashion nobody likes to use it. All right uh let's let let's let's cut to the chase on it um private schools have to go out and find students to bring to their schools otherwise they don't exist all right parents pay twice okay so you have that and I I personally cannot speak to any form or fashion as to how MAIS schools operate. And that that goes for Presbyterian Christian who's now in MHSAA school. I don't know how they I don't know how they get their students all right but there but there is a radius a 20 mile radius that is uh plugged into every private school and there are 11 of them in the MHSAA that um that they can choose students from or take students from in that 20 mile radius. Now you have to take a look at how that 20 mile radius affects both Stannis loss and OLA because you put them on a map dot 20 mile radius you've got the state line which MHSAA says you cannot recruit past the state line you have the Gulf of Mexico which last time I checked no human lived in the Gulf of Mexico and then you've got the NASA buffer zone which the federal government does not allow any development inside of the buffer zone. So 75% of their 20 mile radius is taken away because of those geographic factors same thing for OLA now every private school in the Mississippi operates under a 20 mile radius.
SPEAKER_07How they came up with that 20 mile radius in the policy um I would assume that it is probably some sort of average of the size of a municipal or county school district in the state of Mississippi which is what they apply it to do you have any idea when that 20 mile radius uh you know rule came into effect because obviously as you remember as you taught several uh guys out of my class and other Stanislaws classes that were I don't want to say recruited but the brothers had missions all across the world and they happened to pick up you know individual students you know from Brazil from uh Ivory Coast things as such and it wasn't necessarily a recruiting but because the brothers of the sacred heart had those mission trips in those places there just happened to be you know children that were interested in things as such and so I don't know if that's something that that was ruled upon or not.
SPEAKER_03So the the 20 mile radius as far as I can gather the 20 mile radius circumference that uh they applied to private schools uh came into an exit came into existence uh in 1982 when they made the classification the new classification procedures now with Stanislaus being in being a boarding school um when a student arrives to St. Stanislaus uh their address is 304 South Beach Boulevard Bay St. Louis Mississippi now uh there are other there are other parameters that they place on these students uh specifically such as uh if it's an international student and they're a senior they can play immediately because they have one year yeah um if they are an underclassman and they come in uh they have to sit one year that's that's one of the newer policies that the MHSA has implemented um with uh with private schools and um uh across the state of Mississippi so Stannis Laws follows that and uh and has always followed that OLA the same way so we've we've got different policies and procedures that are put into effect um at the request of the MHSAA and we have we have followed those regardless no matter what no matter what the what the outcome is but the international student does not apply to the 20 mile radius because I mean geographically if you look at it 20 miles is 20 miles no matter what no matter how you take it from the center of the map dot so that 20 mile radius does not apply to an international student the policy regarding the uh age of the student and as far as year in school is what applies to an international student when it comes to uh when it comes to competition at any private school in the state of Mississippi.
SPEAKER_07Coach we appreciate you we're definitely gonna have you on again before the season starts we want uh we want a little bit of information more at least and we know the uh the historian that you are and the the definitely the knowledge that you have so uh feel free to give the audience how to contact you and uh we look forward to hearing from you soon.
SPEAKER_03Sure, Hunter, thank you. Uh they can certainly reach me by email. Jjex2 at Aol.com is uh the one that uh the one that I keep with me at all times so they can reach out to me that way. And uh with my revs advancing to the College World Series I just gotta say Hottie Toddy. Thank you Hunter. There you go.
SPEAKER_07Appreciate you guys the Gazebo Gazette is Harrison County's only independent newspaper publishing news from Gulfport debate St. Louis every Friday. Hi this is Hunter Dawkins owner of the Gazebo Gazette. If you're looking for local news without the hassle through story after digital story log on to thegazeboazette.com. Add your name to the digital audience of 25000 plus coast residents who already know where to find the stories that matter to them. And here I would love to introduce one of my good friends and one of the experts of high school football across the Mississippi Gulf Coast who fans, students, coaches and scouts follow through Twitter and Facebook. Mad Stats, how are you my friend?
SPEAKER_14Hunter Hunter it's great to be on HD Experience and just to be part of your plethora of guests here is great. I'm glad to have to be on here once again, hopefully to bring some knowledge and insight to the fans out there listening.
SPEAKER_07Yeah I mean of course as you know we we had a little bit of public school knowledge of private school knowledge this multiplier information kind of explained talk to me about what uh you know of course not that that's going to matter to to you us this year but uh as far as is that there been any shakeup or at least from what you've heard because I know you're you're all uh all around the map on the coast at least finding out hearing things from from different schools.
SPEAKER_14Yes as far as you know the multiplier to one and a half uh if not mistaken Saint Stannislos is already at two times I don't know if you could confirm that or not from what I understand as far as their football program that is which of course it's all boys school so it's a two time so they won't necessarily affect them because they're not gonna add two one and a half and two you know and make it three and a half on on St. Stannislos. Of course in other schools you know Resurrection St. Patrick Christian Collegiate they will be affected uh by that I did post it last week when it did break and there was a lot of comments on there uh especially from like St. Patrick fans like they're gonna move up you know big time again in in the year after this year coming up so it will affect uh the private schools here on the coast for the most part now I mean you have both sides of it uh I read different boards and you know has the private schools dominated in MHS you know the the schools this year football they didn't have any uh private schools in the state championship games uh as far as basketball you know you have St. Stanislaus out of the boys and girls combined softball didn't have any private schools uh that are affiliated with MHSAA and baseball had one school that did win uh and we talked about it the other day and that was what Presbyterian Christian I want to say that won a state championship.
SPEAKER_07Yep yeah so they were heavily involved in lots of sports that I just asked you know one of the guests about too as well and uh that's that's a little bit more of a political side and political push more than a just a basic you and me football type scenario.
SPEAKER_14So yeah so it will affect like I say not necessarily St. Santa's loss I don't believe as much as it will resurrection St. Patrick and again Christian collegiate. I posted a video from H S M H SAA from the YouTube page anybody can watch it on the Gulf Coast High School football page and you know what he explains about why they're doing this and uh the multiplier that is one point one and a half times and that again it'll start 2027 with the redistricting of all the sports. This is not just football all the sports. So as you know high school football is our theme you know this week uh this is me just giving you the the range just saying hey what what's the big key focus you have you think that's going to come out these uh the fall days I guess you could call them even though we don't really get into the fall days until about October you know the fall season the fall boys that's really uh the the kind of push that we're making what what uh what are you seeing what are you hearing yeah as far you know we're we're just over around 80 days out to kick about 11 weeks out till the official kickoff on that August 28th and I mean there's all kinds of of things happening still and we'll get you from here to there at Golf Coast High School football but you know you have camps that are still uh coming up they just had a whole bunch of camps at Golf Coast they got you know PRC had their camp but they still got a seven on seven camp there. Uh coast football in general the 25 teams here on the coast are still active you know obviously in the summer again that's where you're gonna win your championships in December is here in June, July and August when the season starts so you know they they have a uh a 601 elite camp coming up not a camp under the lights quarterback by Wyatt Davis who was the quarterback there at PRC uh back in 2015 uh time and he hosts a camp this is I believe it's his third year at USM June 20th I mean over 60 quarterbacks you know from JUCO uh quarterbacks including Parker Nettles who played obviously at golf port won the state championship plus the 2027 quarterbacks you know a couple of them Ramsey from Biloxi Wedgeworth from Hancock you know Paris Trivillon from Pascus Chan you have quarterbacks a couple of them from Alabama Louisiana from the 2028 class you know Berglin who was from Ocean Springs the quarterback there Trey Smith from Poplarville and even goes even further to the 2029 to the 2030 class with Keon McNeil out of Gaucher and Wolverton um Jackson Woolverton there Dawson Sullivan from St. Martin so that's a big camp uh again I say camp it's a quarterback competition invite only which Parker Nettles won a very high prestige there out of that uh quarterback competition last year that's something to look forward to uh coming up on June the 20th so we have that coming up for high school football that sounds like a a Mississippi uh Manning Academy almost yes yes they have like 12 coaches and one of them is uh coach Pennock which he's been there with them uh for a few years now but he is one of the quarterbacks uh quarterback coaches that will be there the other person from the coach Sean Murphy from uh Biloxi and also Patrick uh Moonham from Gulfport will also be there along with other coaches you can find that on my Facebook page but it is like a quarterback camp they have competitions I don't I believe anybody could show up to watch it uh as far as fans wise I don't believe it costs anything they haven't posted anything like that but it is six to nine on June 20th at USM hosted again by Wyatt Davis the quarterback whisperer as as we called it that'll be one guess you know that I'd recommend if you can get him on your show here but uh it is a big deal to do and it shines the light definitely on the quarterback uh from the state of Mississippi and also who they're throwing it to I mean if scouts are there watching somebody has to catch the ball so hey you sign the light on the quarterback they'll shine the light on the the wide receivers catching the ball last question uh Matt let me let me get this to you now with um with these quarterback camps and with all this this stuff going on from your other life of Pajuco ball when do does Gulf Coast start when do they because I know they have as you had told me they have a 10 game schedule now so when are they officially starting when are they ending just so we can kind of follow the uh follow the bulldogs from there. Yeah Golf Coast uh all the the schools in JUCO will start that Thursday before uh high school starts which will be August 28th and it'll go all the way to the end of October right before Halloween every team schedule is out I just posted it uh from another website I posted on my Facebook page all 14 teams schedule all out everybody will have 10 games no bye week this is new this year uh one team from the north and one team from the south will go into a one game state championship uh for the state championship the the I don't know if it's gonna be the following Saturday or uh a week uh by in between but again all the schedules are out uh of the 14 teams and it is something different one thing that it has been persistent with JUCO they have national rankings they went they always have national rankings I digress they have four teams that go to a playoff system for JUCO football out the nation and usually and it has since 2021 the state championship winner from Mississippi has gone into that four team playoff Northwest was in it last year East Mississippi played for the state national championship a couple years ago they did lose but so to win the state championship in Mississippi and JUCO that almost guarantees you a spot in the national championship playoff game uh as that consists of two weeks in the first part of December which the national championship game usually is around the 17th 6th 18th of December during the middle of the week on ESPN uh national televised that game is so a lot of things happen in JUCO football again those schedules are out now on the Facebook page and we really look forward to it a lot of time again 80 days to get there but we're certainly going to bring you from here to there. Tell everybody how they can reach you my friend yeah just type in like I say on X uh Coast Football on on against all social medias and you want on everything sports you go to Golf Coast High School Sports powered by Matt Stats. Again we'll get you from there we'll have the toughest schedule coming out West Harrow Carines had the toughest schedule last year. We have we're the only place that ranks all the top all the teams on the coast top 25 will rank them preseason ranking as soon as the season gets a little bit closer there in August and of course the game prediction so a lot of happening on uh coast football just like here on the HD experience I certainly appreciate you having me on Hunter and uh great the fans uh the greatest fans here on the coast and in the state so I appreciate it always my friend you take care of yourself all right stats out the Gazebo Gazette is Harrison County's only independent newspaper publishing news from Gulfport debate St.
SPEAKER_07Louis every Friday hi this is Hunter Dawkins owner of the Gazebo Gazette if you're looking for local news without the hack on sorting through story after digital story log on to thegazeboazette.com add your name to the digital audience of 25000 plus coastal residents who already know where to find the stories that matter to them. Next we have my final guest and good friend and pine belt sports writer Dale McKee. Dale hosts the Bruhaha on WABO 105.5 FM with Marshall Wood Dale how are you my friend I'm doing good man that's gonna be a tough act to file follow there very knowledgeable well you know Dale this is the thing because you're a little bit closer to this team and and I'm not necessarily trying to to throw this team under the bus but as I was speaking with with the with another guest and also with my last guest about the reason for this MHSAA change with the rule change you know under your determination because I know you work heavily with MHSA what was the the point of making this factors was it because they feared MAIS schools were going to start coming in now or what if you know uh trying to to fill out that gap for me if you don't mind well I wasn't um I wasn't in any meetings and I I really just worked championship games for them but I I just imagine there may be some interest from other private schools and they just wanted to say okay if we want to uh you know get this ball rolling and invite some others in or some want to come in I think that we have to have a plan you know and I think it's a pretty good plan to start with you know all plans are adjustable uh a lot of our I've been told this too even some of our laws from from Mississippi um that are passed in the late legislature we steal from other states so I'm I'm sure that this uh you know this private school thing is uh in in some area it's it's pretty uh you know it it's pretty hectic uh uh some of the public schools if a team's not doing real well one of the you know private schools I've I've heard especially up around the Jackson area will you you know take player but I think the the private schools have come to the conclusion too that they they're not going to take a lot of uh senior transfers anymore from the um public schools and that's to um because they they have a scheduling problem in the private schools from what I've been told no one wants to play the big three Jackson schools and so you know that's an issue uh with with within their own association so they're trying to limit some of these um you know players uh being and I'm not trying to get in recruiting in any way because that's a no whole nother story even I was gonna say we're gonna get to that one in just a second okay but anyway you you you know that's just one of the um I I just think Mississippi High School getting back to it it's just my opinion not their opinion I I just think they they wanted a plan in case any other schools want to come in especially after PC's PCS's exact success in baseball I I think that had a lot to do with it that they could see that they could compete in some of the schools not all their schools can compete but some of them can well that was a great segue because PCS not only winning the state championship in baseball but pretty much excelling in every sport that they competed in um you know that's that was kind of the the overlying factor I thought maybe it was because you were you know live right next to that school at least and you can see the athletes they have and you know I'm not sure if the recruiting aspect was part of it. I don't know that school but I know in Jackson you know with the Jackson Big Threes you said you know half of Ole Miss's well it used to be not anymore but half of Ole Miss's rosters was combined with those three schools am I wrong?
SPEAKER_15Uh no you're not wrong um Mike uh see that the quarterback from Southern Miss um Jackson white is it Jackson White John White John White yeah John White John White uh has his hometown listed as West Mississippi West Mississippi is at least an hour from maybe longer from Madison Richland Academy uh you know and so that's a long way to travel and the little running back years ago that uh played for Ole Miss from Jackson Prep uh he was from Lee County yeah yeah yeah a little about five nine about 170 I think he went on to play for the Chiefs for a little bit yeah that's county that's a little bit of a distance from Jackson yeah yeah I mean you know you know so you you you know it's uh it's just one of those things you know but listen uh you know I I you know public schools still athletes from other public schools I'm sure uh I say still but I mean parents and kids want their kids in the best okay and so if if if they can see and and a lot of parents are consumed with recruiting and uh as far as getting their kids a scholarship whether it's in baseball or football or basketball well you want to play for the best coach or you want to play for the best school district and you really can't blame parents for for that you know what I'm saying and I know they brought up consolidation this uh last week and uh and and the education um department up there at um in Jackson yeah yeah you know but yeah you know but now you know in in Smith County here we've got we've got Taylorsville who is uh Riley and Myers all went state championships in some sport so why would they want to consolidate? I mean they're good they think that the you know that they're okay you know and I I know athletics doesn't have everything to do with it because when you're trying to find a math teacher or science teacher and you can't find one because they don't want to travel 30 miles 40 miles to teach and if they do they're not going to stay but a year. So you know that that's all the kind of things that small schools have to kind of put up with you know I say put up with what that what they have to face.
SPEAKER_07Sure I think but I know I definitely understand from the fact of you know uh in you're having a Mount Olive who's obviously been pretty successful if they have to consolidate with Collins or Behigh has to consolidate with Hancock from a population uh portfolio. But uh yeah no as far as recruiting goes that certainly I I certainly understand that perspective but my my wondering about that was more or less of if they're trying to keep Mississippi from turning into Louisiana where you have all these different levels of Catholic schools versus you know uh regular private schools versus non-select schools versus public schools but yeah I know uh you are very aware of all that that uh criteria going on um what about uh what about Ole Miss I you know I have the last team that anybody was sus have suspected in baseball always out of nowhere.
SPEAKER_15Yeah I I I thought they were playing well at times even though they weren't taking serious uh you know they would lose a they lost a two to one series to Georgia um three or four weeks before the end of the season and from what I've seen about Georgia Georgia reminds me of Tennessee a couple years ago they're they're they're they're pretty good uh but oh oh oh miss stayed with them you know and and they lost one game but I just watch in the uh regionals from Lincoln Nebraska and one of the announcer for ESPN he said Ole Miss is built for Omaha and I didn't realize that until you know if you think about it if they can get Hunter Elliott to at least the sixth inning uh they're gonna do really well uh because uh they've got two in the bullpen that will definitely get drafted in in the hooks kid and there's another kid up there too that that I think he had back to back nights up there in uh Lincoln and that was the weirdest that's the weirdest regional I've ever seen you know you're playing at 1 30 in the morning then you're playing at 12 o'clock you know and then you play in one inning at 12 o'clock then you have to come back play at 6 o'clock uh uh but you you know it takes somebody that's been there and people old miss fans I hear them all the time they're fussing about their head coach that head coach all I can tell you is every year that I have followed them they get better as the season goes on. Now they've got some they've had some ups and downs and he gets players and a lot of them you know it's just surprising how he gets them but he ends up with some pitchers he's got a pitcher from California he's got one from Tupelo you know I mean you know they just have the good pitcher staff they got a great pitching coach this year. I think he's he's he's made a good difference for them. I don't think he's the whole reason but I just know on the Auburn series they came up with key hits when they had to they played great great defense when they had to and um and I say when they had to that doesn't mean they were consistent with it but I I I I just thought that they did really well and really people don't understand Mississippi State was maybe a tablespoon from going to Omaha. And people say well you're crazy for that well listen they played Georgia six times the the the run difference in those six games was only 11 total runs they played two extra inning games and state could have easily won Saturday or could have won today you know but you know in the end it comes back to pitching. But state only had I thought this was odd too they put this on the screen state only had one player returning from last year's team that that that boggled my mind that's the new transfer portal.
SPEAKER_07All right final question for you my friend talk to me about your boys up there at Southern I mean that's been the baseball team you know they had everything going and as I talked with a guest last week you know is it enough is 40 wins conference title hosting is that enough or is it something that the the expectations need to built a little higher.
SPEAKER_15Well, I I I don't know. I mean there is there is they can compete with old Mississippi State and uh they they can compete with Alabama and uh Detroit. I mean they compete with them. But listen, I go back to looking at it like this. Coach Oz put his two best pitchers out there. Three best pitchers out there. And they got beat. I mean they got beat by I mean the the pitchers when was the last time that you saw um who was the uh you're gonna have to remind me and I'm getting old here Sun Belt pitcher of the year Graden Harris with nine runs quarters how many how many times has he given up five runs this year you go back to stat none yeah it was last year sometime uh the the the guy that pitched uh the the next day you know he he was the same way I thought may I thought um the um clark boy the Cameron Clark yeah from the I thought he pitched a good game maybe they could have used him another inning you know because I I I saw the the the struggle that um the the kid from Louisville what's his name the relief pitcher Kobe Allen Kobe Allen thank you for all these names I I saw Kobe struggling on that in that Friday game you could tell on his face he was almost taking so much time between pitchers and it was like his facial expressions was like I don't know if I can do this or not. I mean that's what it looked like to to me as a fan. And uh of course you know then he gave up the five runs but those two kids got him to where they are those three kids got him to where they are I I think they got a great program. I I you know they just need uh everybody needs more pitching it seems like to me right now of the three teams that we have Mississippi oh miss can bring somebody out there that that that can spin it you know right now at this part of the season that's right my friend tell everybody how they can contact you all right we're on uh WABO in Waynesboro right right now and we go into a little bit of West Alabama a little bit into uh south part of Meridian a little bit of laurel area people listen to us we we're on Tuesday nights at six live and then we and then we archive them our our show uh several our shows in YouTube and uh they can replay it anytime they want we've had some great guests uh we had one guy named Hunter Dawkins I don't know if you heard of him from the coast we've had we've had him and and his great knowledge that he presents and I always appreciate being on your show.
SPEAKER_07Thank you my friend you take care of yourself. You too well we gratefully appreciate you listening to this podcast and Jeff of course we thank you again you know uh it was definitely some good knowledge of some good guests and uh you know this uh discussion about the multiplier now I kind of have a good idea of what's going on so I I I I I say it every week like it's like how do we get better how how how does it get better but man there there was some like there was some knowledge dropped today man I mean I Joe Jacks is one of the smartest people that I know period I mean that's just that's a fact um Dale all all of it was just it was a great episode man you know a lot a lot of great information absolutely absolutely and uh we want to thank all of our sponsors Jeff you know including the BeauRavage Resort and Casino Nine Toes Brewery in Pascushan O'Dwyer Realty Agent Stephanie Mankowitz uh Joseph Kelly Attorney at law coast casual in Pascushan the Paschershan Rotary Clubs Paddle the Bay fundraiser which is next Saturday next Saturday make sure you guys go out there and support them the insurance barn in Gulfport and this is an important ad that came in with for my good friend Richie Valdez in Gulfport there's gonna be the July 4th weekend huge huge Mississippi deep sea fishing rodeo Jeff I know you know how good that is that event so yeah man I I've covered it for years when I was at the Sun Herald I'd used to have to go down there and look at the daily catch.
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