Episode 42- Tank Girl (1995)

Y'all remember the 90's? Right? RIGHT?!?! Today is the day Saysha has decided to force Melanie to watch a highly divisive cult movie that could only have been made in the 90s: Tank Girl! We ramble for a long time about the pre-Marvel comic book movie flop trend, 90s alt girl fashion, shaved heads, SAND, pets, guns, apocalypse survival skills, and interspecies romance YET AGAIN. Yes, this is a family podcast and YES, only one of us has been to therapy. Tune in and try to guess which one!

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Welcome to VHS Sisters, a nostalgic movie podcast with two actual real-life sisters. I'm Melanie and I'm Stacia. Get into some comfy clothes, grab your favorite beverage, and come hang out with us as I forced my little sister to watch all the movies she missed growing up. I was gonna say, speaking of queer baiting, this entire film that we're about to discuss, ladies and gentlemen, is just that. It is this is such a special movie. Hi everybody, welcome to VHS Sisters. I'm Seisha, I am Melanie, and at least one of us is kind of gay. Although, although I don't know. I I you know, I'm arguably less now. I I mean the long game of this podcast is to get my little sister to at least date one woman. I feel like that would be cute and fun. But I also don't want to pressure, I don't want to pressure my thing is I don't like to date anyone, I just want money. I feel that I feel that I I was reading this article about how like people are super into obviously like looks maxing now. We talk about that a lot, enhancing their appearance. And the funny thing about this current young generation of people is that they do not they're not interested in sex, right? I think we know this, right? They're not interested in like actually fucking, they're a very non-horny generation, so they're just like doing it for likes. Yes, yes, so like everybody's super attractive, but like nobody is like erotic or hot. Do you know what I'm saying? Or everyone's hot, but they're not like it's not like ooh, do you wanna like they're not going home with someone, you know, at the end of the night. No one is going home with anybody, no one's going out, no one's leaving their home. I'll be completely honest, like after having watched a movie, a recent movie that just came out, everyone obsession. Yes, let's get a quick take on obsession before we we dig into the 1995 classic Tank Girl. I you know, the male loneliness epidemic, it's it's so self-inflicted and it's so terrifying to be a girl who is just in the world and you know, people want something from you. So you you you believe that that guy was a villain, is what you're saying. Yeah, I will say I think she was possessed by a demon, you know. The the willow might have put something a little cuckoo in her body and like had her in a prison of herself, but he's the villain. GI is the villain. That's interesting you say that because my husband also was like, Oh, she's possessed by a demon. And I'm like, no, a possession, like that's not how it works. Like a demon has to like seek you. Let me tell you about possession. Let me tell you about the movie possession with Isabel Ajani and Sam Neil, R.I.P. Um, uh, yeah. So I argued that it it was not possession, but it was like mind control. It's like more like get out, which I'm have you seen get out? Yes, yes. So it's like the idea that like you're being puppeted, but the real you is trying to like fight its way out. So it's not like you're being taken over, but it's more that like you're being controlled. And the real you is so like in Obsession, the movie, sorry, quick sidebar about obsession, uh, about obsession. She was kept trying to fight her way out, like when she was sleeping, and like when she she gave him the pictures, and like underneath the one picture of them, she wrote not me. Yes, and then she like looked in the mirror and she was like snapped out of it a little bit, and yeah. Yeah, what do you rate that movie really quick? Honestly, I would give it like a five out of five, a ten out of ten. I really was terrified, but like I laughed a lot, and so like it was enjoyable to watch, but still very creepy and sad, and what a sad ending, too. Yes, yeah, it was go ahead, speak on it. No, no, no, it's just like I you know don't often give a lot of horror movies like their full run because I'm just like I kind of get taken out of like certain things, like sometimes like oh the person's around the corner, like that stuff doesn't really get me so much, but like having a really good story gets me. So I thought this one was was really well done. So hats off to you guys over with the obsession team. Yeah, hats off to Curry Barker, who's like 25 years old, also a YouTuber, and is you know, just did like YouTube. He was like a sketch guy, he's a sketch comedy guy. Oh hey, shout out, shout out, and you know, wrote a screenplay based on a Simpsons episode that he saw, which is that that was the whole idea for it. It's the it's like an old treehouse of horror episode called the monkey's paw. Um it's like it's like a classic, like, yeah, what do you wish in the monkey's paw? And you know, you always gotta, you gotta, you gotta be careful what you wish for. Exactly. And and never wish for love. Never, ever, ever. Yeah. And I was like, who is this fucking psychopath who didn't wish for his cat to be back alive? But I did look back at um clips of the movie, and it did clearly say on the wish willow thing that you cannot resurrect people. And I was like, Okay, yeah, yeah, that's fair. That's fair. I mean, that would be very scary and dangerous. You know what we'd have on our hands is a real pet cemetery situation. Yeah, exactly. Lots of pets, lots of pets, obsession, more pets than pet cemetery. You know what? Same amount of pets, it was just one cat. So, but it wasn't a pet. The pet wasn't in the title, okay? It wasn't called my cat sandy, it wasn't called obsession. It's true, it's called pet cemetery, and there's one pet, like okay. Uh, there were some pets in this movie that we're talking about today. And there were. It's funny because when Melanie and I got off the pod last time, I was like, okay, we're kind of sliding into our theme here. And the theme for August, it's gonna be sand. And I feel like it's like the later episodes of the Trixie and Katya series, uh, where they they start talking, you know, they they started talking about like relationships and weather and stuff like that. And then towards the end, they're just like, let's talk about windows, lunch, lunch, yeah, whatever. Um, yeah, this all of the movies that we're gonna watch this month have something to do with sand. And this movie has a lot of it. This movie is the 1995 cult classic tank girl, based off of the comic, which started in 1988. Okay, and is like a legendary, punk, anarchic sort of comic, and it intercuts a lot in like the actual film. So we'll we'll talk about how much this movie means to me. If you grew up as an alternative girl in the 90s, you could not miss this movie. You have never heard of this at all before I proposed it, correct? Not at all, never heard, never seen. And but you are familiar with the lead, Lori Petty, yes. And it's funny because I had just re-watched a league of their own like last week. Incredible. She's also in a very beloved childhood favorite of yours. Oh shit, you can't remember. I I chose this movie very I'm always thinking about you, huh? Um, a very beloved childhood, like is a voice or as a person. Oh, she's a person. I cannot wait till you figure this out. Think of your most your most beloved childhood movie that has to do with aquatic creatures. Oh, she was in Free Willy. Do you remember? No, I have you know what's funny is I haven't seen Free Willy in, I don't know, 30 something years, maybe, or like 28 years. Still one of my tops, but it's like I haven't seen it. I remember nothing of the movie, but I do know I love that fucking whale. I love that whale so much, and I will cry if I see him. Yeah, you know what? He had a good life, maybe, maybe not. I don't know. Yeah, I forget his name, uh, his actual name. The orca's name? Yeah, it was like I'm looking. I'm looking up the uh it's Keiko, yeah. Keiko, the captive 7,000-pound 12-year-old orca whom Jesse befriends. Aw, and then like he well, the whale has like that bent dorsal fin. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Being in captivity, and it's very sad. So, do you remember who Lori Petty was in Free Willy? Was it Jesse's mom or sister or something? No, she plays Ray. She's Willie's veterinarian and the marine biologist who is at the like I said, it's been so okay. This is a huge letdown because I thought you were gonna be like, oh my god, she played Ray, blah blah blah. No, okay. I don't know anyone's name. Wow, except for Jesse and Freewilly. Melanie remembers nothing of her most favorite childhood movie, and it makes me sad. You know what? It's all that TikTok is ratted your brain. That or you know, it's just been so long. I haven't I haven't watched it in years because I probably wore out the VHS tape, and we it was gone after that. So every so when I when you do choose to re-watch Freewilly, you're gonna look at it and you're gonna be like, Oh shit, it's Tank Girl. Oh shit. It's it's uh it's Kit. Mm-hmm. Yeah, no, she Lori Petty is um she's incredible. Yeah, so you'd never heard of this movie. There's there's nothing, yeah. This was just like a first time you just ripped it. Yes. Um, yeah, I wanted to, I I definitely wanted to show you this movie because I feel like it came about at a time before like comic book movies were like all the rage. This is like pre-Marvel. This is like post-Howard the Duck. Post Howard the Duck, which was a huge flop. This was also a huge flop, Tina. Yeah. Um, for many reasons, which I can get into. This also I think is important to, as I was re-watching it, I'm like, this is basically Harley Quinn and also like Furiosa from the Mad Max newer movies. Like the character of Tank Girl, which was written in 1988, I feel like it's important to watch no matter what you think of the movie, just because like literally nobody looked like this, and to be like a girl who like wanted to shave her head so bad, her whole style, everything about this. I was just like the way she wore like lingerie on the outside and like fishnet stockings, crazy punk hairdo, always always making dick jokes. Um, this this movie, as I rewatch, like when I was re-watching it yesterday, I was like, oh, this just informed my whole personality. And if it if it wasn't for this movie, I think I would have been a total fucking nerd. Like I am a nerd, but I I just love the fact that like we have a female anti-hero who's not like very noble and is kind of like gross and just likes to fuck and shoot guns. So I think it's I think it's very important. Um, do you rec do you recognize the art style at all? So after watching, I did a hint of research because I was just like, what what had happened? What what had happened with all this? And the art style, which did kind of remind me of it while watching, reminds me a lot of the gorillas, the band, you know, especially this picture that I know you can't see viewers or listener, I know you can't see listeners, but uh the background on the zoom channel is a drawing by the artist, I believe, Jamie Hewlett. Jamie Hewlett, who was friends with Damon Albarn from Blur, they became the gorillas. So yeah, if you if you know the band Gorillas, you you're familiar with this art style. Yeah, which is super cool. I love I love it. I feel like the director of this movie, Rachel Talalay, who she really she she had read the comic and she absolutely fell in love with this character and the idea of having a big movie with a big uh strong female lead in it, and she like lobbied to get it done. She was like optioned like several times to do she she fought to direct this movie, basically. I know that she shopped it out to Steven Spielberg studio, and Steven Spielberg famously was like, I'm a fan of this material, but I'm not cool enough to do this. Oh damn. So you have to find somebody else to do it. Yeah, I I think she was really taken with like the art style of it, and uh it's such an interesting film because the source material is so cool, like Steven Spielberg said. And I feel like the studio it ended up eventually, I think, with United Artists. I think that they just did not know what to do with it. The comic, just a little bit of background about the comic, is incredibly raunchy. It's extremely violent, it's extremely sexual. And I think that, you know, even though the movie was rated R, I don't think that they went hard enough with it. And I think if you're gonna go raunchy, you gotta go raunchy. This was a movie that definitely suffered from like a lot of cuts. Like the director, we talked about in our last episode how uh Lynch didn't get final cut with Dune. Same thing happened here. Like Rachel Talalay did not get final cut, the studio like took it from her once it was done. And it just doesn't like their whole like scenes that didn't get filmed, so they inserted all those animated sequences to fill it out. Oh, okay. Which I think it doesn't seem not deliberate, it seems really cool. I like that about I didn't mind it, I didn't mind it. And like at first, I didn't really know if this was a comic originally before the movie, but with those interjections, I you know, kind of put two and two together, and I was like, okay, this is something that is clearly material that this movie is made from. So I thought that was really cool. Like that they incorporated it. Yeah, how were you like let's just like hop right into it? Like, what were your impressions about this world? You know, this I what I like to call Mad Max for gay people. Like what uh and we'll we'll get to the gayness and the the queer baiting of it all, but yeah, what were your first impressions, like the art style, the music, like you're getting into it? What were your feelings? I thought of you, obviously, because I'm just like, okay, this is that sort of early 90s punk sort of you love desert themes now. That sort of thing, you love desert and seeing her and her like alternative style, her grunginess, her her lewdness. I was like, okay, like this is kind of a girl after my own heart, too. Yeah, sure. Um, but the world itself, you know, it's 2033, it's not too long from now. So no uh you you want to talk about controlling the water with the billionaire's agenda? The billionaires who hoard all the water for themselves, which uh is happening now, which happened, I think at the time they were thinking about Nestle, because I don't know if you know about Nestle and how they basically like they they were they were I think it was like the CEO of Nestle was like basically said that not everybody has the right to fresh water. And I was like, what? Excuse me, what? Um well that wasn't there something like a I don't know, uh a vote on food being a basic human right in the two countries that voted against it were the United States and Israel. Oh yeah, absolutely. Yeah, they just want they just want people to die. It's fine. They can just they're just saying the quiet part out loud. Exactly. And then they even mentioned too this is later in the movie, but they talk about New Zealand being where like um either some testing or something was going on over there. The importance of New Zealand, I forget in this movie, but it made me think about another factoid of a lot of rich people making bunkers in New Zealand because it's out of a nuclear blast zone. So, like if there was ever like a nuke to go explode, New Zealand probably wouldn't get as much hit from that based on like where all the major cities are. So that's really interesting that they bring that up. A lot of connections in this movie. Yeah, it's very like watching it now in 2026 and listeners, it is on YouTube free currently as of recording. So I think it's also on Tubi. Y'all check out Tubi. Every time I go on there, I'm like, there's some good movies on here. They're they they've helped me a lot with this pod, too. There's been a lot of movies I've watched on there, and it's like, yeah, they're commercials, but get up, you use the bathroom, you know. Right, stretch, stretch, it's fine. Um, yeah, so the the comic and the movie are set in Australia. I don't know if they make that clear. And I guess you kind of hear it in well, Naomi Watts plays Jet Girl, she's Australian. There are some Australian side characters, the kangaroos are a big, yeah. Are you just realize? Oh no, you're shaking your head at the kangaroos. We'll we'll get to it. Let's not let's not jump ahead. Let's let's save so it's taking place in Australia. It's taking place in Australia. It was filmed in Arizona and New Mexico. So if you like those settings, gotta go to Arizona or New Mexico. You're you're not you're not big on desert, is what I'm getting. I don't do well in heat. Like I just I get too uh clemped, you know. So it's hard for me to enjoy. I mean, sometimes I like a good, like, you know, sun roast every once in a while, but I have my mind has to be in it. Um, unexpectedly, I feel like it's very rude, you know. So what you're saying is there's going to be no sister trip to Burning Man. This movie felt very Burning Man to me. So um, with that in mind, no. It I there's a part of me that so I've guys, I've never been to Burning Man. I know a lot of people who have been. Let me just say that. I think it's become such like an embarrassing thing. I think like back in the 90s, if you wanted to like get it whenever it started, yes, I think there were probably some cool things about it. But now it's like people pay like thousands and thousands of dollars to basically go glamping. And I'm like, that's not what the whole thing is. It's basically like Coachella now, you know, it's so overpriced and so almost it's I don't know if it's as influencer like forward as Coachella is, which is why I will never go because I had such a delightful experience at Bonnaroo. Shout out to Bonaroo, where everybody felt like you know, we were a part of a community and it wasn't this sort of like show of riches. It was like everybody's camping, everybody's taking a shower with a hose, uh, paying five dollars at some stranger's house. It's fine, like that's how it's supposed to be. So yeah, I will not be going to Burning Man nor Coachella. No, I I think there is a part of me that's very like enthralled by the aesthetic. Like I said, this is Mad Max for gay people. I also love Mad Max. I love anything in the desert. I know I've I've seen this on YouTube. I'm just gonna insert this real quick. Is there's um there is how do I want to say uh a post-apocalyptic festival in the desert called Wasteland Weekend, where people like build like huge Mad Max style cars themselves. That's kind of cool. That's what so it's like if you're into car culture and like customizing, which I'm always like like I don't do it, but I'm I'm a big fan. I'm like, yeah, you want to like make some like crazy desert tank thing and like go out in a in a in in a bikini and grill a hot dog on top of it. I'm all for that. I do, I do love that. You just gotta hydrate, you know, right? Yeah, you have to be prepped with those electrolytes. Yeah, maybe that's why I like it because you know me, I am such a prepper. I love to prep and plan, and it's like really my opportunity to like flex my autism, which is like ha ha ha, I've thought of everything, exactly. And and and like meanwhile, my friends around me are like, I forgot to drink basic water. Just you didn't bring one electrolyte. Oh my god, yeah, no, I can't handle a lack of preparedness, especially when it comes to like extreme temperatures or living conditions. Like, I'm so first world problems over here, but it's just you know, it's the time I grew up in. I know tank girl time's coming soon, so I'm trying to enjoy it while I got it. Okay. Yeah, I'm I'm getting ready. I'm I'm ready. I'm physically trained. I just Gotta learn some more survival skills. You've got the luggable loo. I've got the luggable loo, y'all, which is like a throwback from Bonnaroo. That's I think why we got it. Yeah. It's uh for listeners who are not up to date on our sister lore. The luggable loo is basically just a bucket with a toilet topper on it. Yeah, and you put a bag in it, and you put a bag in it, and you know what? It does come in handy. Yeah, hey, it is what it is. It is gotta go. It is what it is. How are you feeling about you know, seeing Tank Girl in the desert, Lori Petty on her trusty steed? It's very western-like, right? It is, yeah. It's like it's a water buffalo, right? And so it's like she's got her mask on, like full respirator. Water buffalo has like this plastic lid with holes in it. I'm like, what is that doing for the the animal at this point? Like nothing. Every everyone in this movie is wearing a nebulizer, but it's not connected to anything. Yeah, it's just like whatever, you know. I I know it's budget, probably. And you know, can we get this animal to put this on for longer than 10 seconds? I don't know, you know, but you know, it was it was cute. You know, she's riding along, she's going to her her house. It makes it seem like it's almost like she's invading, you know, a private dwelling or something, but that's where she lives uh with her friends and her her lava and uh kids who aren't hers. It's like a commune, it's a commune, yeah. I think I love the setup of it because it's very, I don't know if you're familiar with this aesthetic solar punk. It is, and it also kind of reminded me of like the average Bushwick loft in the early 2010s. Absolutely, yeah. It's communal living, but not like in a weird way. Every there's no like hierarchy, like the kids are just sort of running loose, probably their parents are dead, but like the adults take responsibility for them. Yeah, I know there were like this is like a part of the movie that I know that the executives kind of messed with and cut, like they they cut a lot from the beginning in the end. You're supposed to see Tank Girl's room, which is full of dildos, and they shot it. I have a lot of like my mouth is open, listeners. Yeah, full of full of dildos, like just like tons and tons and tons in the room. Because the character of Tank Girl, um, her her actual name is Rebecca. It's Rebecca Buck. They never say it in the movie. Rebecca Buck likes to fuck. Yeah, exactly. She she that's like one of her character traits. Um, I I think the executives were just confused. They were just like, what does this girl want? And like it's like uh she wants dick, clearly, and maybe puss, we don't know. Maybe an a brewski beer and a cigarette, yeah. No, she's she's here for a good time, not a long time. And uh yeah, she's definitely like horny in the movie, um, to use one of your least favorite words, I feel so and I I think it comes across like right in the beginning. Like you said, she she sees her lover in the house, they do a little role play, you know, right before all the shit goes down. And I I don't know, I kind of love it because it's just this idea of like, yeah, the world's ended, but people are still having fun. Like, feel like so much apocalyptic content is so like, oh, it's like so terrible, and no one's hot. And it's like, you know what? We're just a little greasy, we're a little dirty, and we're we're gonna roll with it. Like, what else are we supposed to do? We're still siphoning water, we're living our dreams, okay, as best we can. They got that water pump, like you know, your grandma used to have in the yard for pumping water, and they're like it it's like the only like source of water in the area that's not controlled by water and power. Like they couldn't think of a better name for the cup for the corporation. I mean, it is what it is, you know. It is what it is, who's run by uh Malcolm McDowell, who do you know? Do you know the actor who plays the big villain? The big his face looks recognizable to me, but I don't know from where. He has I'll tell you something about Malcolm McDowell. He has never turned down a job. I think he's probably best known as Alex in a Clockwork Orange, which I have not seen. Okay, listeners. Wow, the list continues, the list continues, and the mental notes just keep stacking because Melanie has never, you know what? I got you to watch The Shining. I think I can get you to watch another Kubrick movie. Yeah, it could be my second one. Um, yeah, he's I mean, he's just like I I would like to read you Malcolm McDowell's IMBD because it's so long. There's like 200 things like on it. He he does not, he loves his check, is what I'm saying. And that's the kind of king that I would accept into my life. Yeah, no, he's not here working, he's 83, he's still working. Oh yeah, he's still working. Um so yeah, so we they have to, you know, tank girl and her found family living in the desert. They eventually get attacked, they get discovered by the baddies, and uh she gets taken away. Yep, she's fighting them off. She puts a whole mouthful of sand into the sky, which is the worst. I'm sure you've had a mouthful of sand. We both went to the Silver Lake sand dunes as kids. Um, and definitely I've had my share of sand in places I don't want it, especially my face. You don't want sand in any crevasses and your eyes and your ears. It's it's bad. It's real bad. Um, yeah, no, we we get to see the tank girl. She's she is competent, you know, but there's like 20 guys on her, like she can't defend them all. They kill her lover, as you say. Uh she we we assume that she they've like killed everybody in her commune, and they also unfortunately slay her ox. Yeah, I mean, how can you keep that thing hydrated, honestly, though? You know, and eat a lot. Well, that's the that's the thing. I love that little bit of world building that the thug says to her, which is like, you know, you know, you're not supposed to have pets. So it's which is like a great piece of world building because it's like, yeah, any animals that aren't like, you know, uh basically we have no need for animals, right? They just consume water and resources. My cat. Your your cat doesn't drink water. No, she drinks water. I just never see her do it, like except for every once in a while. But I do force her to have more water because I put it in her wet food and she just eats it up. So you gotta get her, you gotta get her a fountain. That's uh next on the list, yeah. They don't want that still water, yeah. You gotta get it to a moving. How are you feeling, Lori Petty, as our titular character or tank girl? How are you feeling her vibe? I I mean, first of all, I love her look. I love her hair. I like I need to just go platinum and just give it up. But I think you know, she's she's sassy, okay? She's trashy, she's uh she's mouthy, you know, and I'm fine with her. I'm not like I wasn't like overly sold, like, because it just it's obviously like she's portraying like a comic book character, so she's wanting to be like over the top. I feel like looking at the style of the comics, the voice doesn't really match what I would have put in my head. I would have done like almost like a deeper, more um not masculine voice, but just like something with a little more authority, a little less like spunky. Um, but I was okay with it. She has a very, I would say distinctive voice, Lori Petty. It's like a little scratchy. It's it's like you said, spunky is a great word. Um, I do feel like she's very proto-Harley Quinn. Yeah. From Birds of Prey, Batman, Joker, all that stuff. You know, it's like she she walked so Margot Robbie could run. Also, quick sidebar. I know that Margot Robbie wanted to buy the rights to this to redo it. You know what? Go get it, Margot, because I would love to see it. Yeah, I mean, I I don't know if she would want to play Tank Girl, she would want to cast somebody else. I mean, I know she did, I know she did Wuthering Heights to mixed effect. Um, I haven't seen it yet, but me either. Um yeah, I I think a fun fact is that they they definitely wanted a British girl to play her because it's a British comic. And even though it's set in Australia, it's very British flavored in sort of tone. I think it's interesting that at least two of the spice girls auditioned to be her. Really? Yeah, Jerry and Victoria both legit auditioned to be the part of like I I think Jerry would have done a good job. I think so too. Yeah, ginger spice. I think she would have definitely sold it. I mean, I could see I could see Victoria Beckham being like a badass girl in a tank, but I can't see her. I don't know. Yeah, well, they had a British actress, I'm forgetting her name. They they they actually had like a legit British actress who was signed to do it, but that actress refused to shave her head. And I was like, why she thought she was gonna do it in a bald cap? They're like, nah, girl, we have to, we have to shave. And Lori Petty was like, I'll do it. Right, no problem. She was ready to go. She was in the she was in the barber chair already. Yeah, she's like, it it grows back. That's the thing. It's just like, just do it. Also, you're in the desert, it's so hot, you're not gonna want all that hair on your head, so not at all, or to wear a wig. So, but overall, you were digging her vibe, you just thought like her voice needed a little bit more like authority, she needed to be a little tougher. Yeah, like if I had to cast this role, I would probably choose a different style of character, you know. Right. I don't know, like maybe like I think I think she's been uh canceled now, but is I think her name is Gina Rodriguez or Gina something who played in The Mandalorian.

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She was like that really buff chick who's kind of like mega-ish.

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Like she was like like that type of look is really cool to me. Oh, maybe a little predictable. I think they wanted somebody who looks like the the the character, uh, the comic book character, and the I mean, she looks exactly like her if you go through the comic. Okay, like all of those images in the movie that were, as you said, like intercut in there, are like drawn by the artist because again, they were just like we can't we forgot, they either forgot to shoot a scene or they didn't have the budget to shoot the scene. So, like a lot of the action sequences are all just like hand-drawn, they're not, it's not even animated, it's just like hand-drawn panels, and then the the camera like moves around to like make it look like they're moving, yeah. Action. So it's very like Looney Tunes style for sure. I guess I like you know, the the depiction of Tank Girl, even though like this is not like an actor problem, this is more of a directing problem. I feel like if if everyone is going to be Looney Tunes, then everybody has to be Looney Tunes. And I do think the film, you know, speaking as somebody who like grew up with this movie, it really kind of suffers from like an unevenness in tone. So they'll show like the really goofy stuff and the making dick jokes, and then they'll have like a very serious scene. Like as soon as Tank Girl's imprisoned, like in this penal colony, and she's gotta like uh dig tunnels for big water or whatever. Right. There's like the scene where she's basically taking like a dust bath, like a bird would. Yes, and it's very like slow motion and sensual, and you know, the music's great, and the music is so good. Well, that I that's the thing about this film. I I think that people know the soundtrack more than they've seen the movie. And this was like one of my big, I think we've talked about this in other pods, like how many 90s movie soundtracks I have because it was really pop it. You had this, you had the craft, you had the crow, you had pulp fiction, like every single soundtrack was basically like a mixtape that the director had made for you. Yeah. And another fun trivia. I have so much trivia about this movie. I know so much about it. Courtney Love was the music advisor for this. And she was supposed to play Subgirl, who's that redheaded girl that they meet in the middle after uh Tank Girl and Jet Girl break out of prison. Uh, we haven't talked about Jet Girl yet, but Subgirl, that that red-headed curly girl, that was supposed to be played by Courtney Love, but Kurt Cobain died and she didn't want to do it. This is this is like a very 90s trivia movie. I feel like even Courtney Love would have could have been a good tank girl. Oh, yeah. No, Courtney Love is a tank girl. She is that IRL, just like doesn't give a shit, is just has always been like that girl. Absolutely. Um, but yeah, so like the unevenness of tone, like she's taking the dust bath, long, long pause, and then she overhears, I believe, jet girl getting interrogated by one of the higher-ups or whatever. Sexually harassed. Yeah, essayed. She essayed. And they really tried to ugly up Naomi Watts, but it's like you can't, you know, they try to make her look a little like uh dowdy is the word, right? Oh, yeah, they try to ug her up, and it's it's fucking Naomi Watts shout out, one of the most like stunning cinematic faces. This I believe was her first movie. Wow. I don't know if she owns this movie, I don't know if like she admits that she did it or anything. That's what I wonder, yeah. She's gone on to be like a David Lynch favorite. If you continue with the Lynch journey, he cast her in a ton of stuff and just like loved because she he loved actresses. David Lynch loved actresses that have that old Hollywood look, and she definitely does. So yeah, she's she's playing Jet Girl who you know what, more women in STEM. Yeah, is what I this is a great women in STEM movie. This is like we have girls who want to engineer and learn how to fly jets and drive tanks. Yeah, what's so bad about that? Nothing, um, but yeah, we do get, as you mentioned in the very beginning, a little bit of queer baiting with the whole first interaction between Tank Girl and Jet Girl. And this is uh another example of where, like, if it wasn't a big studio movie, could they have done more? Yeah, probably. Should they have ended up together? Yeah, probably. Oh hundred percent. That's you know, that's for the fan fictions, the and I'm sure that there are many, but clearly there was Margot Robbie. You're gonna have to you're gonna have to make it gay. Margot, Margot Robbie, you can do Tank Girl, but you gotta make it real lesbian. Oh, yeah. Okay. I I wanna see Cunolingus on the big screen. Um I want to see the dildo room. Oh, yeah. Oh, once we're done, I'm gonna I'm gonna send you some clips. Uh, we're gonna talk about other clips that were famously deleted from this movie. Because if they weren't, it would have been uh a slightly higher. Well, yeah, but also like I think it would have been better, you know. It's like when when is a movie not improved by multiple dildos? It beats me. I can't think like add a dildo to any movie, it's gonna improve. Citiz Citizen Kane dildo when we do our labyrinth reboot dildo, dildo. There's gonna be a whole room of dildos that are also puppets being puppeted about. Yeah, yeah, you know what? Listeners submit, what movie would you put dildos in to improve? Let us know. Let us know. Yeah, so they it's they Jet Girl and uh Tank Girl do get a little smooch, you know. It's it's clearly just to to be a ruse, but you do get a little bit of that. Jetgirl's very reluctant to be friends with tank girl. She's like, you just gotta lay low, right? Like, what's what's her whole vibe? She's she's a little more uh conservative, under the radar, just wants to like get by, you know, without ruffling too many feathers. Uh, but I like her look. Like, I like the jet black leather outfit with I mean her hair and my hair are one of the same right now. Like we both have that blunt bob going on, but I want more of a tank girl haircut. I'm ready to commit. Okay. I was gonna say you could absolutely do a jet girl cosplay if you had round little glasses. I that's all I need. Like wireframes. I don't have any wire frames, but I could easily acquire those. Easily acquired, yeah. And and but yeah, to be tank girl, you really gotta commit to that shaved head look. It is a it it requires a little bravery. I think you should, especially since you have a remote job now. Like who who gives it? Hit, yeah. Um Malcolm McDowell, the villain, Kesley is his character's name. He finds out that tank girl's up to no good. He's trying to convince her to be on his side, like a classic supervillain. She's like, nah, I'm good. And then she gets tortured, which like I always found the scene when he puts her in the tube very triggering. I'm very I was gonna say, I feel like you would hate that. I mean, this kind of seems and like you more so get it later when the um when the girl is in it, like the little girl, but like they add water to it. And I'm like, this is like kind of like a sensory deprivation tank. Is that how you felt when you went into one? Uh a hundred percent, yeah. No, people who do these float tanks, I just want to say you're psychotic. I've tried it and I didn't mind it. I'm not into being enclosed, and I definitely don't want to be in a closed space with water. They they do that as kind of like a last resort torture for her because the the whole thing with Tank Girl, she's like they they torture her and she's like, I love pain, you know, which is like another another like badass quality about it. Like, she kind of brings like this kinkiness to it. Oh, yeah. And it's such a great way to like respond to men in power. It's like, no, actually, I like that. Yeah, give me more, give me more. Yeah, no, there's a defiance about it, and I absolutely love it. So Kesley's like, okay, we have to go out in the desert, and you are basically like bait because we have to go kill a bunch of rippers who which we haven't discussed yet. Rippers are the mutant kangaroos who were made by this mythical figure named Dr. Prophet, who we never see, which I think is like another part of the movie. I think like he was supposed to appear at the end, but again, like massive cuts to the movie. So we just like at the end, we just like most action films, we just get like battle, battle, battle, and the end. But yeah, she she uh has to go and be bait to draw all these rippers. The rippers end up like completely fucking up Kesley and all of his goons, like he gets tore up, yes. Uh, and then what happens? Now you narrate, you tell me what happens. Well, they escape, yes, right, and they go. I mean, I know they're trying to find the girl, but didn't they go back to her house? Like they go back to the dwelling, right? So tank girl and jet girl end up escaping. Yeah, they they figure out how to drive the tank. Uh, you know, jet girl happens to know a lot about engineering, of course. Um, so she's like, Yeah, I have the codes to this tank, Avi. And she's like, Well, girl, what the fuck? Like, why didn't she get out sooner? But yeah, and then um, so they go back and they discover that you know everyone's been taken or dead, you know, killed, and I forget how they know where she is. They know because the the red-headed girl, subgirl, who is supposed to be, like I said, the one who's supposed to be Courtney Love's part. She's like, Yeah, no, Sam, the little girl, got taken to a sex club, which is called what is it called? Liquid Silver. Damn. Which I I live for this sex club. Me too. I like the futuristic look of it. It kind of reads like an Apple commercial in like 2001. Yeah, it's it's definitely like the Aesthetic of it is very cool. I also get like a little Austin Powers from it, like especially like the way that all the women are, and you know, and again, this is 1995. This is like pre all of that. It's really wild, like how far, again, for like a big studio movie that they were afraid to like push the raunchiness of it. They had no problem putting a 10-year-old in a sex club. And there's like a pervert there who was played by Iggy Pop. Yeah. Who's like, yeah, I want a real schoolgirl, you know? It's uh it's pretty raunchy, I'll say. Yeah. How are you feeling about the whole like sex club aesthetic? Well, I liked it. I mean, it was definitely a little too bright, in my opinion, to be a sex club. But um, I also liked that there was this fashion montage because she was trying to get dressed up so she could be in disguise. And, you know, it's like the closet from clueless but upgraded in a way because it's like, oh, don't have any earrings, pierce your ears with this gun. Like it just shoots out of the wall. No, I'm not doing that. And I forgot what the other one was. I was like, yeah, shave all hair that's like obscene and so they're go ahead, go ahead. I'm gonna say she puts together an outfit that doesn't look like anything that would be a good disguise at all. So I'm like, okay, what are we doing here? But I thought that was kind of like a true 90s moment, like every movie had a fashion montage in it, and this one did. It's it's definitely like the I mean, the the plot on paper is not a lot, so they fill it out with the movie, it is very padded, I would say, with a lot of the animation sequences and like wacky sequences like this, where it's like, oh, tank girl's just being crazy. I do know in that fashion montage, that closet sequence that was all improved by her, they just told her to go wild and just do wacky stuff, and she did. I do think it's like there are all these like subtle, maybe not so subtle feminist things. And I always feel like obligated to bring up like how this was this was uh a unique thing, like to to say that like there's a character who's told to like remove her body hair and she's not into it, right? You know, it's it's like you were expected to look very conventional, very feminine, very attractive to men, and clearly like Tank Girl's not really interested in looking attractive to anybody, or she just wants to look fun right and and cool. She's just having a good time, she wants to be herself, she wants to be herself. Um, she wants to have a good time, and she has such a good time in the club that they just randomly burst out into this Busby Berkeley style musical number, which uh even me, as like a fan of musicals, was uh was definitely cringing at. I was like, I was like, I I didn't remember that they did that, and I was like, wow, they just really wanted to fill some time in this movie. How are you feeling about that tone in the middle? Like just having like a random musical number. It was just like, like you said, filler, and I wasn't really feeling it. I guess it's like okay, it brings unity amongst all these like sex predators and the sex workers, you know? Yeah, it was like a silly distraction that in if the movie wasn't kind of like in this jokey tone, it would just it would fall completely flat, which you know, to each their own, but they were able to rescue what's the little girl's name? I keep calling Sam Little Girl. Sam, it's interesting because in a lot of these apocalyptic movies, there's always a kid. It's like if you remember Mad Max had a kid, uh if you've ever watched Waterworld, there's a kid that the lead has to also save. Um, a lot of a lot of saving kids in a lot of saving kids. Theme of the 90s, honestly, saving kids, saving kids, yeah. If like you want to show your audience that you should root for the lead character, it's like what that's like what they did with Sigourney's character in Aliens in the first because in the first movie, she's just a normal badass doing her own thing for her and her cat. In the second movie, they're like, Well, we have to make her motherly. Let's give her a kid to save. I'd be like, fuck that kid. Yo, hunt, throw that kid off the plot, feed it to the alien. There you go. There you go. Give me enough time to run. Bye. I want my baby back, baby back, baby back, ribs. Wow, now that that's a that's a 90s cut right there. Oh man. So, yeah, so they get Sam out of there. Um, but while this is happening, Dr. Mr. Whoever, Kesley. Yes, after his run-in, he was all beat up and he was getting repaired. Um, he's like, no painkillers, please. I'm like, all right. Yeah, um, but he's like laying there with like what looks like now those red light masks that everyone has. Yes. He's got the LED. I'm like, that's just like me on a Wednesday night, what he's doing for his recovery right there. So I was I admired that. He's he's he's look maxing, and he gets a second opinion. James Hong is like the the crazy crack pot doctor comes in, and they basically like make him a hologram to repair him. They use AI to he is, yeah. He is AI. That's what I'm saying. Like this movie, you gotta give it credit for like predicting the future a lot. Um, oh yeah. Yeah, it's funny. I'm looking, I look down at my notes and it was just like, how does Tank Girl keep her eyeshadow on in the prison camp? Great question. Also, in a world with no water, so little water that you can't even have pets, how are there cosmetics being made? Period. Um, you could use ground up pigments, which are toxic and dangerous, depending on what type of pigment it is. You use beetles, you know, just crushed beetle shells. Yeah, I think the some of the world building needs to be fleshed out a little bit more. Like in the beginning, she talks about how she has to go like buy a present from her boyfriend. I I think she means she's gonna scavenge it. Yeah. It's weird. Like you get a lot of the apocalyptic stuff, but yet there are a lot of very, I wouldn't even say modern day, but very 90s references. So at the time they would have made sense. Now it just makes the movie sound dated. Like she she talks about like Baywat being on. Right. And I was like, that's okay. So there's the conceit that there's still TV and there's still Baywat. She also talks about going to see cats on Broadway in New York City. I was like, I was like, shout out, cats, shout out. Um, I reference cats all the time in a lot of my works. I love it. So yeah, it's it's interesting. I guess it's it's supposed to be like not the far-off future, so people would have like a knowledge of like things that had previously existed. Well, Baywatch did come back, so that is true. That is true. Maybe, yeah, maybe maybe the makers of this film knew that there was gonna be a reboot, and a reboot of cats, and a re Oh my god. Well, now there's a reboot of everything, you know. Exactly. No original ideas. I mean, they're gonna reboot this movie, maybe, so which I'm into. I'm into uh yeah, Margot Robbie. Put us in the movie. We're ready, we're ready, we're ready to go. Put in a sex club, yo, put me in that sex club, make me the madame. They they are in the sex club when the water power people come to snatch them up again, steals the kid, Sam, and takes her away. And Jet Girl and Tank Girl end up falling into a burrow which contains who who does she find in this burrow, Melanie? She finds an abomination. Wait, an abomination or many abominations? Several. Uh, who does she find? Tell the listeners who haven't seen this movie. Does she find iced tea first? Or who does she find first? I don't I think they just wake up and they're all there. So she falls in, they both fall into a layer of rippers who are these mutant kangaroos. The makeup, which was done by the legendary Stan Winston, who has done like everything, including Alien. Um yeah, yeah, just like so much stuff. Oh my god, he's like the makeup legend. And apparently, I do know some more movie trivia. He was so stoked to do this project that he took half of his pay rate because they could not afford to pay him the whole thing. And he's like, That's fine. He's like, I'm really stoked to do these mutant kangaroos, and he did it for half his asking price. Isn't that crazy? That is crazy to hear that and see what I have seen. Well, just TV. What did you see? I I want you to describe, use your words and describe right off the cuff. What are you seeing with these kangaroo men? So, like, okay, imagine you're at Burning Man, you go to the shaman, you get some drugs, you're like, Yeah, I've heard of this. Sounds cool, man. Take the drugs. You wake up and it's like fucking mutated, dog-faced kangaroo ears, is the only thing I gather. Humanoids who are so bizarre in their like just in the way that they are, like the way that they talk about different things, like they all have their own unique personalities, but I hate every single one of them so much. Okay, you just I see you struggling for words, and it's just like I think what we're just experiencing here, or what Melanie is experiencing, is pure revulsion for the rippers. I don't think she likes them. Well, how are you? How are you feeling? Do you don't thought you don't think they were cute or handsome or charming in any way? Okay, no, not at all. And like, like it's the things like where it's like, okay, we've got the one guy who's like really jazzy with it, you know. We've got iced tea who's just playing iced tea, right? He's like, I was a cop in a past life. We're like, yeah, okay, you know, I see you on law and order, it's all good. And then like you've got the one, oh, I worked at the the tire store, like the tech supply store or whatever. And they're like, oh, let's have crumpets and tea. Like, why crumpets and tea? And then the fact that they're like, Oh, we're gonna, we're gonna pray about something, and like they're like sitting down to dinner, and the girls, Jack Girl and Tank Girl, both like put their hands up like Catholic prayer. They're like, Oh, we're gonna pray. And then they hear all this chaos in the background because the way that these these rippers pray is like dancing around, some some sort of dance troupe, like I don't know, like not like break dancing or anything like that, but it's just like it's a little too weird for me. So that's where the movie, for lack of a better phrase, jumped the shark for you. It was not just the appearance of these mutant kangaroo men who were made in a lab to be these fighters, it was the fact that you didn't love their culture. You were how horny they were for the human women and the fact that like they get up to go dance with them to pray with them, right? Yes, and they're dancing and bumping and grinding, and Jet Girl's like already been essayed, I'm assuming the majority of her adult life now because she's been in this prison. Yeah, sure. The one grabs her and is like, Oh, it's okay, I got condoms. I'm like, what the fuck am I watching? I can't handle this anymore. That's where I'm like, okay, I gotta get through this movie because I I'm done. You were like, you're so between this and Howard the Duck, where Howard also had a condom that was used, you're just not, you just have a problem with anthropomorphic animals having birth control, is what you're saying. I don't because I read Morning Glory Milking Farm and it was a fabulous book. So anyone who wants to read anything like that, please do. It is my recommendation. However, the difference between Howard the Duck and this Ripper situation is that clearly in Howard the Duck, she Beverly, she was consenting. That she was down, yeah, that's down the clown. That's a great point. It's a great point. She's down the duck around, you know. And clearly, uh Jet Girl seems uncomfortable. Just because Tank Girl wants to get wild and crazy and she'll fuck whoever doesn't mean Jack Girl wants to do that. And I kind of found that upsetting. So I was like, I can't watch this. I I you know what? That's a great point. Um, they were not very, at least that one that she ended up with. I don't I don't know if that guy had a name, but that's like the one she ends up with. It's like it's weird because they have to like not gay the movie, and it's you know, in the comics, you know, Tank Girl be fucking everybody. But in this, man or beast, man or beast, it's whatever, it's fine, it's the apocalypse. You do you do what you gotta do. Sure. In this, it's like they kind of play down her uh I guess suggested bisexuality, and it's like, oh, we gotta get them both with two kangaroo dudes, but yeah, also what a thing to say. I don't think that sentence has ever been said before. Uh I think it's weird and like cowardly of the studio to like have that to know that this is a major plot point in the comics, in the source material. She has a kangaroo boyfriend. Um and it was supposed to be. Here's the thing, it was supposed to be even more explicit. One of my favorite fun facts about this movie, of which I have many, is the fact that later in the movie, so you know when Tank uh Tank Girl gets together with her boyfriend, her kangaroo boyfriend's name is Booga, which also is problematic, I think. Yeah. B-O-O-F-B-O-O-G-A, Booga, Booga, whatever. So you see, like after that scene, they are in bed together. Yeah, with her with her um Zeppelin titties, which is cool, yeah, I think. Very cool uh torpedo bra situation going on. But the thing is, is that that scene before that scene, Stan Winston and his cronies had built a five thousand dollar 11-inch prosthetic kangaroo penis, and they shot it. They shot the scene, it is on YouTube. I will link it in the description below. There's a whole yes, yes, Melanie. Yes, there's a whole now an obsession. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We were having a good time. Exactly. We were having a good time. Uh yeah, no, there's a full frontal kangaroo dong in it, and much like Howan Dune, David Lynch wanted there to be full dong, which there should have been, which there should have been. Um, yeah, no, the director, Rachel Talalay, was like, I want, I want full-on kangaroo dick. She asked for it, they made it, they shot it, and she did not get final cuts, so they took out that kangaroo dick because the studio said it would be in quotes too much like bestiality. And I'm like, Well, what are we doing here though? What are we doing? He said he had condoms, you know what I'm saying? What does that imply? Yeah, uh do tell. Do tell, yeah. No, I'm just do you think you were turned off just by the non-consensualness of a couple of them? Like, would you have given a kangaroo boyfriend a shot? No, uh, based on I I not a kangaroo, okay. You know, maybe a maybe a dragon. Okay, okay, okay. So, like, if we're talking hybrids, just I don't want to I don't want to derail this too much. I don't want to derail this. We've already been talking about this movie a while. Um, hybrids, anthropomorphic animals, anamorphs that you would wanna fuck. What dragon is the first thing that comes to your head? Yeah, because I also read the book The Dragon's Bride, which was which was good. I feel like we've talked about the dragon's bride before, and I feel like Katie Roberts has gotten so much publicity in just from us, just from us. I'm sure she doesn't need help, but like that's interesting. Yeah, dragon, dragon's cool, but kangaroo, that's not your animal. Um, not when they look like that. I'm sorry. I'm sorry to the makeup artist. It was just it was just very scary, like it just looked like a dog. I don't know. I know kangaroos kind of look like a deer, dog, whatever hybrid sort of thing, but it's just it's just not the look. I mean, it is interesting seeing all the different characters, which I mean, by the way, loaded cast here of as far as like stars in the future. Um, like iced tea looked just like iced tea and just was iced tea. Everyone had their own distinct features, but I just felt like overall they were horrid to look at. So I wouldn't want to see that dong. No thanks. Yeah, I'd sorry unless it's like a science project or something. I won't I won't send you that clip. No, you can send it. I'm curious. But I'm just like, if I were to have to give a chance to an anthropomorphic boyfriend, it wouldn't be this guy at all. Gotcha. Yeah, that that's I I do think it's I I do like the detail that like Stan Winston they like everyone did have like their own personality, like the guy who plays DT, who's like the jazzy guy, as you say. Um I know you probably haven't watched The Wire. I did actually watch The Wire. Okay, so he's Norman on The Wire. Okay, yeah. He was in Oz, which I was a big fan of. Like, that's like some original like HBO prestige TV stuff. I was like haven't seen Oz yet. It's it's pretty rough. It's like prison stuff. It's pretty, but like uh anyway, like he yeah, he was like a great character actor, and um, I don't know the guy who plays Booga. Oh god. Uh he I I do like that he's kind of just like a himbo though. Like I like it seems like her type, yeah. Even the the human boyfriend also kind of a himbo. But I love that dynamic. It's like the girl is tough and smart and resourceful, like she doesn't need saving from her boyfriend. Like there's a point where Buga like comes out at the end, like when she's fighting off, you know, more of the water empower guys. He's like, Oh, I'm here to like he pulls her up at one point and he's like, I came to save you, or whatever. Like when they're starting to like go to rescue Sam, like towards the end, and it's like, all right, yeah, he's he's he's there, he's on her side, but like she she's capable of saving herself. She just likes having a nice meaty imbo boyfriend. I'm sorry I used the word meaty. You haven't even seen the meat yet. God, people eat kangaroo, you know. That's yeah, no, I don't I don't think that's good. I don't think you should be able to eat anything that's I can fight you. Yeah, I just had this conversation the other day. People are like, Well, what's an animal that you've never eaten that I that you would never eat? And I'm like, shark, 100%. I don't I don't believe in it. I don't think that you should eat like apex predators. So yeah, uh, you know, the the like I said, it's it's pretty much the end of the movie. Like, I think the end of it's pretty uh it happens pretty quick, a lot of a lot of action, which you know I tune out with, anyways. I feel like a lot of a good handful of movies that we end up watching, and it just like I think it's sort of like the hallmark of a movie or a book, if you will, where they just don't know how to like wrap it up in an elaborate way. So it just like battle, battle, battle, battle, battle, kiss the end. I did think that there was a scene in there where they were trying to get photos for you know the Ripper gang here um with the security guards, like they wanted to take pictures of the weapons, and they were doing this like calendar spread, which I thought was really funny. I did enjoy that. Yeah, no, there's definitely like some moments, like it's it's again the tone is weird. There's some really good ideas, and then it's a lot of just like stuff that you could tell it was like just cut and paste together. Yeah. Along with the animation, the goofy sequences, and then in the in in in there, it's like, okay, there's some good jokes. It doesn't take itself too seriously. But I blame it on the edit, like the final edit. Like it just doesn't like you, you leave the movie and you're sort of like, okay, obviously the rippers are going to defeat water and power. They're going to redistribute water to everyone. Kesley guy dies, you know, because they they destroy the AI. Yeah. They're like, oh, ask it several questions that it can't answer. And it just keeps going on loop. It's you've broken the you've broken the machine. Um, yeah. And of course they they find Sam again and it's like, yay, you know, the end. Let's I'm with my kangaroo boyfriend now. Wonder what our kids are gonna look like. The end. Oh god. Well, and it's like she keeps saying, and it's like between her and Kesley, he's kind of being like, Oh, I'll get you next time. And then she keeps saying, like, see you in the next one or something. And it's like, stop trying to make sequels happen where they don't need to happen, much like Mac and me. Like, we'll be back. No, you won't. No, you won't. No, you won't. Uh, not if Margot Robbie has anything to do with it. Well, but would it be a sequel? No, it'd be a remake. That's true. Margo, you're you're missing out on a huge IP ownership deal with with Mac and me. You gotta you gotta get on that. Get that sequel and then also redo Tank Girl and make a sequel. Yeah, no, make that money while you can. Girl boss it up. Uh, I just want to say before we rate the movie, I I mean, I I I know you probably have a lot of thoughts. I thought that Booga and Tank Girl and Jet Girl should have had a threesome. I think I I think like if you want to go X-rated and then had a threesome, and then she would have been like, oh, I didn't really like the guy. I just want to be with you, Jet Girl. That's what I was hoping for. Yeah. Like closing in on the fact that they're meant to be together and just going full les at the end. I think I would have liked this movie a lot more. Yeah, it should have. I mean, because like there's so many, there's so many cool things about it. And I think the more they try to like force tank girl into being like a typical hero, she's not, she's an anti-hero, she's not moral. Um, her the original comic book character is not very moral, she just likes fighting and fucking. She likes her whole thing is that she likes tanks and she likes freedom, she likes her freedom. Um, I think like all of the tank stuff is so cool, and it's like, yeah, just rest in that. Like, I'm I'm sorry, like when she gets to drive the tank for the first time and the L7 song shove kicks on for the first time, it's so cool. I'm like, that is the 90s, that is the 90s, and like again, every girl who was like alt-leaning at the time was like, I'm gonna shave my head, smoke Nat Sherman cigarettes, wear combat boots, and say, like, fuck you. You know, I was gonna say, say fuck you. Yeah, I mean, that was fuck you, mother. I do what I want. I've been disappointing my mom since 1995, thanks to this movie. Um, yeah, how did you yeah, well, any any other like feelings about the movie before we give it a little rating here at the end? Well, I thought overall, like the concept was pretty cool. Um, very relevant to today, you know, back when we were talking about billionaires controlling water, another touch on Dune, water is life, you know. Water is love, water is life. And um, I I liked, like you said, this anti-hero character. I thought she was not your typical girl, which I like to see on TV. I liked her crazy haircuts and her fashion, but there were a lot of a lot of missed moments in this too. But yeah, I thought it was I I think Margot Robbie could really kill it with a replay. Just saying. Yeah, I I I think, like you said, the the idea of like water, uh, you know, as you as you suck on your Stanley right now. I'll take a little drink too. I I like that the idea that water has to become currency, like instead of dollars, they have liters. Yeah, and I I do think that the implement that Kesley uses to kill people, that little like stabby thing to like basically suck all the water out of them is cool because you know the human body is like half water, no, more than that, like 90%. Yeah, so like you know there's some billionaires somewhere, like if they haven't done it already, they're looking to like, I don't know, take like homeless people off the street and like suck water out of them or something. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, give it to the AI, yeah, absolutely. The AI needs the water, right? That's the thing. Yeah, pretty soon we're gonna be out, y'all. That's good tank girl time up in here. So that's what I'm saying. That if anything, this this month, we want to remind you to be physically prepared for combat. You know, you can still look cool, you can still have you know kinky sex, uh, smoke cigarettes if you can find them. Sure. But uh, you you better be ready. I was saying, like, we we don't have a lot of time, everyone's gotta be doing push-ups. Um, what do you rate this movie? So I thought about it a little bit. What can I consider into this rating? You know, if I had to give it points, I would say points for uh female characters, points for soundtrack, a plus soundtrack, uh, points for you know unique concept, and that's about it. So with that, I would give it uh go on, go on, I I want to give it a C minus. Yeah, I was a yeah, I was gonna say, like re-watching it, I was like, I do think it's important. I think everyone should watch it at least once, especially if you claim, like a lot of these children running around do, they claim to be all about the 90s. I'm like, nah, this is the 90s. This is the 90s, yes. This is this movie is the epitome of the 90s. It's the epitome of like what comic book movies looked like before Marvel became like a thing, because you just didn't do comic book movies, like there were so many like indie comics of the time, and it reminds me of like all the animation that I grew up on. Like, I grew up on like liquid television, watching MTV, all these like I wanna say, like independent artists putting out real art. And like, I think, yeah, even if the movie itself is flawed, you can at least appreciate the art style, and again, just like all of the the fashion cues it gives you. Um, I'm gonna give it a C. Okay. So you write jot that down in your little book. I'm doing it right now. Yeah, C. I want to give it a D plus, but I was like, I feel like minus hits a little harder. Yeah, so I'm gonna go C minus. I feel like it loses a lot of points for me with the musical sequences, not just the the Busby Berkeley sex club thing. Because here's the thing about we've talked about this before, probably like musical numbers are like battles and sex scenes in a movie. It needs to move the plot forward. It the movie just can't stop, and then we're doing this thing. That's the thing about screenwriting. You have to, it's like, okay, we're doing this to like could they have used the musical number to like help Sam escape or whatever is a distraction, right? That works. I just made that up on the fly because I'm a team. Sam's in it, Sam's in it, and she probably wants to go lie down. Like, why are they doing this right now? Yeah, it's just again, I I I appreciate that it is a movie. I'm glad I showed it to you. I'm sorry about the kangaroo stuff. Yeah, I'm not happy about a lot of it. I I will send you a minute-long YouTube video that it has kangaroo genitalia in it. I'm sorry. The fact that it is on YouTube for free should let people know, you know, what it's what we're getting here. But I was kind of surprised. I didn't know like if there's like a no-rating system on YouTube. I mean, obviously, I'm qualified to see it, but it's just like, you know, just out there. I it's it's you can get some raunchy stuff on YouTube as long as it is like under the radar. And I think a lot of people get grabbed clips from movies, and to avoid like copyright or getting it pulled down, it's like a little fuzzy. Or they're recording it like off their phone from their TV. So they're they haven't like ripped it from the movie. You're gonna you're gonna see you're gonna you're gonna see everything you need to see, basically. As soon as we get off the pod, I'm gonna get your raw reaction. You want my raw reaction? Do you want me to do it on the pod? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Okay, yeah, you know what? We've done a lot of stuff today. Let's uh hold on, hold on, hold on. Don't worry. Kangaroo sex scene. Here I go. Okay, okay, okay, okay, hold on, hold on. I'm gonna send it to you. And you're gonna turn it up. I I have I have I have sent Melanie the clip, the infamous Okay, we're in like we're in the lair. We've got some flashing lights, some signs here, almost like a Vegas sign. Right.

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Hey, um, I see you. Wait, I gotta back up. It's very, it's very obscure. It's a little grainy, but just it's gonna pan up in the bed and then you're gonna see what you need to see. Oh it's funny because her uh Zeppelin titties are deflated because she's sleeping. She's sleeping right now. She's not horny. Well, you know, he he knocked all the air out of her, I guess. Uh does that change your opinion at all? No, not at all. Well, you know what, listeners, you can't say I didn't try. Um, you know, I'm not shipping them. You're not, yeah. No, you don't need to ship them. We talked about we know what shipping is. They ended up together. You don't, you would you can you can ship tank girl and jack girl. Yeah, that's who I ship. Tank girl and jet girl. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, yeah. Write a fanfic. Let's go. Okay. Let's get it. Let's get it. Okay. Um, what a great episode, y'all. I'm loving, I'm loving Sandmont so far. Um, I love the 90s. We love the 90s. Yeah. We love talking about the 90s. We were both alive in the 90s, and you know, I think the decade was better for it. But now you get to fully experience the culture of it. Um, yeah, I guess that's it from us. Any any more thoughts about the 90s? Oh, the about the 90s? I have many thoughts about the 90s. You know, they say that I was born in like the peak generation to like have both like an analog and a digital childhood, like, right when MySpace was still like, you know, was popping off. I was in middle school. So like imagine talking to your friends, getting home. You have AIM, you know, your your login hours on there, chit-chatting to your friends and updating your top eight and choosing your song and doing some like light coding to express yourself online. It was a cool time, but like also go ride your bike with your friends and go like pick up sticks and fight each other in the street. I think it's amazing that yeah, we're 11 years apart and your childhood was so different from mine. Like, I didn't I didn't have any of that, except I did have the stick fighting part, yeah. But you missed the like wearing combat boots and shaving your head part of the 90s. I did a little, I mean, um, my combat boot wearing days, not that I still don't wear them, mostly in the 2010s art school time, different time of my life. That's it. You know what? I think now is your time to embrace your tank girl time. It's never, it's never too late. It's not, it's never too late. I say so politely. I'm like, yeah, yeah, I think I will have my punk phase now. Why, yes, I think that'll be a delightful aesthetic to explore. Put it on my Pinterest page. I'm gonna throw up. Okay, see you next time. Bye. Thank you so much for listening to this episode of VHS Sisters. We hope you've had a fun and cozy time. Please consider liking, leaving a review, and following us on your podcast platform of choice. If you'd like to chat with us, please email us at VHS Sisters Podcast at gmail.com. Love you. Bye. Ah, that's it.