Don't Even Bother

#13: Travel Shenanigans: Flight Fails, Bad Timing, and Why Trips Never Go as Planned

• Katiuscia + Megan • Episode 13

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Travel sounds glamorous — until it isn’t.

Time to swap our most unfiltered travel stories, from flight delays and booking mistakes to chaotic timing, questionable decisions, and trips that went completely off the rails.

We talk airport stress, travel expectations vs. reality, and why no matter how much you plan, something always goes sideways. From laugh-now-cry-later moments to the kind of mishaps that only become funny after the fact, this episode is proof that travel chaos is basically a universal experience.

If you’ve ever missed a flight, packed poorly, trusted the wrong itinerary, or wondered why traveling is somehow exhausting and magical at the same time — this one’s for you.

00:00  Travel Shenanigans Begin
03:15  Why Trips Never Go as Planned
07:40  Flight Delays and Airport Chaos
13:05  Booking Mistakes and Bad Timing
18:50  Expectations vs Reality While Traveling
24:30  When Travel Stress Hits
30:10  Questionable Decisions on the Road
36:45  Laugh-Now-Cry-Later Travel Moments
42:20  The Funniest Things That Went Wrong
48:15  Why We Still Love Traveling
54:10 –Lessons Learned (Maybe)
01:01:00  Final Thoughts and Favorite Fails

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speaker:

Don't even bother.

megan:

Oh, hey.

katiuscia:

Hey.

megan:

So you just got back from a big trip?

katiuscia:

I did.

megan:

Do you ever feel like everyone in the airport is acting like it's their first day on this planet?

katiuscia:

Yes, and it's actually worse than it ever has been before. To me, this time was way worse. I don't know what it was. I don't know if it's 'cause it was international. And so people are just confused at how an international airport works, which is pretty similar to a domestic airport.

megan:

That's pretty basic,

katiuscia:

but it was wild. Just everybody in your way.

megan:

Well, and if you get on the moving sidewalk and you wanna stop, I guess you just want to be the height of laziness. That's your prerogative. But stand to the right. These people will just walk on and just stop to a cross and have a conversation. Bro, I'm trying to walk. If you've ever seen me walk, I walk real fast in real life. So if I have a moving sidewalk, I get on that thing. 'cause I wanna feel like I'm bionic. I want to speed, walk down the moving sidewalk and feel like I am superhuman. So get the fuck outta my way, please. You're

katiuscia:

almost flying.

megan:

Yeah,

katiuscia:

and it's great's amazing because it's a beautiful glide. It's what I imagine dancing and Oz would be like just gliding and you're hustling. And those people who just get on and drop all of their stuff immediately. Okay, fine, you can do that too. But also, I'm trying to get by.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

But then on the flip side, if I get on an, if I get on an escalator. I'm, you shouldn't be trying to run up the stairs of an escalator. There's stairs right next to it for that.

megan:

If I'm feeling feisty, whoever I'm with my family, usually I'll go, yeah, you take that escalator, I'm gonna beat you up these stairs. But then I hold my breath the whole time. So by the time I get up the stairs, I'm like dying wheezing. But yeah, I don't walk up the escalator. I ride the escalator. So I don't know what the difference is. But that moving sidewalk comes over me and I just, I turn into a whole other person

katiuscia:

and there are whole airports with huge sections of that moving sidewalk. It never ends. Like

megan:

Denver.

katiuscia:

Denver, where was I recently? Salt Lake. Mm-hmm. I feel like Salt Lake has em, but you just need to move with the sidewalk and not just allow the sidewalk to move you. If you're gonna stand in the middle, if you're gonna do that, then you stand to the side.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

And let the people who wanna get there a little quicker. Yeah. Because it's propelling us. Yeah. Gives us that running in place. Yeah. Road runner. It's almost the road runner. 'cause then. Boom, you take off and then you have to slow down when you come to the end and then you have 20 steps and then you get to take off again.

megan:

It's like a skill to get off

katiuscia:

that thing. It's a, I love it. It's a beautiful thing, but nobody knew any kind of proper protocol for the airport. They're all just kind of standing or standing and looking around to try to find a monitor or my favorite is when they're walking

megan:

on their phone,

katiuscia:

on their phones and their kids are everywhere and they're running into people and then they don't care. And that becomes a, I will play chicken with you if you should be looking at where you're walking and you are not. And I'm walking towards you looking where I'm going. I'm not moving out of the way. Oh, not at all. This is the chicken game now. Yeah. I'm gonna, I'll, sorry, I bumped you and that's just an, excuse me. That's not even a, sorry. Because you should be looking where you're going, and this is because nobody in an airport. We're not there to be leisurely, although I was on this trip back because it was a nightmare trying to get home. But typically, and I wasn't moving, I was just sitting. I had the time, is what I'm saying. But most times, when you're transferring in an airport, there is a deadline to reach. So you gotta make that deadline, move your ass, move your feet, or sit down and figure out your logistics and then proceed with caution and looking up

megan:

well. And that's just shitty situational awareness. If you need to get on your phone in public, you stop walking, put your back to a wall, figure out your shit, and then proceed. But you don't just wander around with your phone in your hand that's just asking for you to get pickpocketed or your phone's stolen or whatever, the least of which is bumping into another human being. Yeah, it's, it boggles my mind.

katiuscia:

It's been allowed for so long. And then let's talk about why airport things are so expensive too.

megan:

Oh, it's highway robbery. ' katiuscia: cause you're I think so. Well, and because I swear, can't swing

katiuscia:

water,

megan:

I swear that that's why they keep ramping up security things. You can't have this, you can't have this, you can't have this, but you can buy it in here for $18.

katiuscia:

It's nuts.

megan:

It's appalling.

katiuscia:

I did start traveling with, I'm not even gonna bring a reusable water bottle because the whole point is I don't wanna bring it on my trip with me. Right. Mm-hmm. I'm not gonna bring a Stanley Cup to Europe. I'm going to bring, I mean,

megan:

tell me you're an American without telling me you're an American.

katiuscia:

Exactly. Talk about a, a bullseye on me. But I will, I finished a bottle of plastic, just a plastic disposable bottle. Put the empty bottle in my bag, went through security, filled it up, but that water in those filter system sometimes tastes like shit.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

Real bad. And so that's not exciting to me. Then to know that I can be stubborn, though. I love drinking so much water before I get on a flight, and I will drink throughout because I cramp very badly. And so I have to stay hydrated. So I'm always, I always want the aisle seat and I'm always moving on a plane because I don't wanna be stagnant and get these horrific cramps and be stuck in the air. That's not fun. But there comes that stubborn point where I just think, well, I don't wanna spend this much money for water in an airport that's Dasani or some shit. I don't want that. Then I'll just spend a dollar more and get a smart water or something. It's just, it's just, it's all too much. This is why I pack snacks. First of all, I always travel with snacks. But water, coffee, if you're there early and you don't have access to coffee before or you had to do a Keurig or something nasty, whatever it is, I just don't know why it's so expensive. But I also don't know why everyone, the days that I'm there, the days that you've been there, it's there for time ever in an airport and alive.

megan:

Yeah. See, and as far as the water goes, I'm lucky because I have the world's smallest bladder. So by the time I land at my destination, I am wildly dehydrated because I do not want to have to get up and go potty more than once in a flight. But if it's a long flight, whatever. But then again, I walk past people at the bar and I'm like, buddy, it's 7 37 in the morning.

katiuscia:

Mm-hmm. That's sky time

megan:

and you are drinking now. And if I start drinking, I mean I have to go pee. So I'm jealous of those people. Really is the bottom line of that. The one time I drank in an airport, I paid probably. $12 for a Bloody Mary. 'cause I was on the way to my brother's funeral and I was like, fuck it, I can drink at eight o'clock in the morning. And, and that was a long time ago. That was 15 years ago. So $12 for a drink was expensive back then. 'cause I was still buying $2 beers.

katiuscia:

Oh yeah. It's way more now. I think a couple, maybe two years ago I was in San Diego and my friend was leaving. He was flying out the same time that I was. So we went to the airport together, different gates and we said, let's go get a drink at the bar. But we didn't, I didn't have time. So I'm like, let's get a shot. I can't even tell you when the last time I took a shot was, it was two years ago, but before that, forever, I'm not a shot person. Mm-hmm. That was a, a little chapter in college, which did not go well for me.

megan:

I don't think it goes well for anybody.

katiuscia:

Mm-hmm. Some people have a skill, but I remember it was just two blanco tequilas that we got. And I think I paid. With TIP and everything, like 50 bucks. Oh

megan:

my

katiuscia:

gosh. For two shots and it, we're not gonna drink shitty liquor. We're not, we're old enough where we have, we're above this, but it was still 50 bucks with the tip. And I just remember thinking, okay, this is why I think we've never flown together, but I always have a travel bottle of whiskey.

megan:

Mm-hmm.

katiuscia:

In my backpack, because typically at the gate area before boarding a plane, I'll shoot that. It's typically Irish whiskey. It's my travel tradition. It's my ritual. I am a huge fan. I'm a huge fan of drinking in the morning for air travel. Okay. It's sky time. There are no rules. What is it in Idaho? You can't order liquor in a restaurant before 11 or is it 10? I think it's 11. Hard liquor.

megan:

I have no idea.

katiuscia:

Okay. It's 10 or 11, but I've taken 6:00 AM flights out of Idaho. And you best believe that I have gotten an alcoholic beverage.

megan:

Okay.

katiuscia:

Because it's sky time and it also puts me in the mindset of vacation mode. Let's go, let's blow this Popsicle stand and let's go. So I'm okay with it. And because I'm hugely okay with drinking and just peeing all the time on a plane, I will drink it, but then I will also toggle water because being up in the air is also gonna dehydrate me. Sure. The altitude is also gonna mess with my system, so I love it. But it is crazy. I put

megan:

a little bourbon cream in my coffee. I think I, I could do that. The problem is right now in this chapter of my life is most of the time I'm flying with my kids.

katiuscia:

Yeah.

megan:

So I need all of my faculties.

katiuscia:

You do. I will just have a beverage for you.

megan:

And then the last time I flew all by myself, which was about a year ago. To go to my cousin's wedding. And I looked at the people in the bar and I was like, I am on vacation by myself. I should get a drink at the airport. And then the 70-year-old man in my brain came out and went, I'm not paying $8 for a Coors Light. So I didn't do it.

katiuscia:

All right. You need to adopt the Irish whiskey in your bag. Shoot it. You gotta do it. You sip it. I'm sorry. You don't shoot it. You sip it.

megan:

Okay.

katiuscia:

Forceps. And you can do it out in the open as long as it's not on the plane. You can't do that. That's a no-no. But you can do it in the gate area as you wait to board. You just

megan:

Interesting.

katiuscia:

Well, sips and then you're done.

megan:

Okay.

katiuscia:

And then you're at least loosened up and you feel like you've been on vacation, but you've bought it at the Idaho Liquor Store for 2 75.

megan:

Okay.

katiuscia:

And you feel way better about it.

megan:

That's good to know.

katiuscia:

Yeah. Or if you sit in premium on Alaska. I dunno if you fly Alaska, I fly Alaska a lot To go back to San Diego Premium gives you free booze and they're really generous about it. If you finish your drink and you say, thank you sir, may I have another, they'll give it to you. I never, not to San Diego, I would never drink two drinks to San Diego. I'm such a lightweight, but it's just nice that they offer it. Same way if you're in a different class where the booze is free.

megan:

Okay,

katiuscia:

that's nice too.

megan:

Okay.

katiuscia:

On an international flight. So it's just nice. But the airport's just so expensive.

megan:

Well, so, okay. Speaking of having to go to the bathroom a lot, I ran into a situation at the, and it's not just an airport situation, it's a any public facilities situation, but I feel like this happens in the airport 'cause people are going to the bathroom before they get on their flight, whatever. You have a big bathroom, lots of stalls, so you're waiting, you're the next person in line. I genuinely want to know what people's idea of the socially acceptable protocol in this situation is. Maybe boys don't have to worry about this, but we do. So I have to go potty. I am the fastest partier in the west. I had, I grew up with brothers who would straight up leave me if I took a long time in the bathroom so I can get in, get out, I'm not messing around. The very next stall that comes up is the handicap stall. So I hop in there and there's nobody behind me at this moment in time in the line. I hop in there, I do my business, I come out and as I come out I am met with these two women who very clearly are going to need to use the handicap stall. And they are pissed at me for taking their stall. And I was like, I'm pretty sure I don't need to wait for another stall. I that shouldn't be kept vacant for just the happening occasion that you come in there. Yes, if you're next in line, if I'm next in line and that comes available and you're right behind me, I probably will say, you can use this stall. But if you're not in there, I'm not gonna save it open just for you. I'm gonna go pop in and use it and pop out. Right.

katiuscia:

1000%.

megan:

I feel like there was some kind of sketch comedy show about this, about a bear stall. So if anybody knows what I'm talking about, it was probably the state or some really obscure show that I watched in my youth, but, and the person ran in and used the stall and then they came out and there was a bear waiting. The bear was very angry that they couldn't use their designated bear stall. Am I the asshole here for using the handicap stall if nobody else is in there and that's the next stall available?

katiuscia:

No. No. Absolutely not.

megan:

If there are other stalls available, I will go to another stall. I don't need, I don't care. But if that's the only one available and I have to go, I'm going. Right.

katiuscia:

This is the same way that if, let's just bring it back to the airport. If you're in an airport restroom and it's full because a flight just got out and now everyone is waiting in line. Yeah. To go to the restroom and you walk in and the, there's people behind you, but no one is going to be to what you can see. No one seems like they're going to need that stall. They don't have a small child that they have to change whatever the case may be. Absolutely. Use the stall. What are you supposed to do? Start taking questions of who needs the handicap stall? Because I can bet you money that the person in back of you is gonna be like, I'll use it and they'll go right ahead of you.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

So no, no. You use what's available. That's the whole rule. And if you got out and that person who was next in line would've needed that stall, there's no reason to give you attitude about it. You use the stall that was available to you.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

You have a problem. How

megan:

do they know I don't need to flail my arms while I'm going pee? They don't know that.

katiuscia:

They don't know.

megan:

Maybe I need that extra room.

katiuscia:

And they can't ask 'cause I think of HIPAA or something. There you they're, they can't ask what your exemption is.

megan:

People's entitlement just goes through the roof in really any public social interaction. But the airport is wild because if your flight is delayed, suddenly you are the most IMP import or you're trying to hit your deadline or whatever. You are the most important person in that airport all of a sudden. And you need to just go running through people. You still need to be polite, I think, but have a little common courtesy. You have some situational awareness.

katiuscia:

I also think to the airport, we've been doing this TSA, all these checks pretty much the same since, I don't know, is it 24? 23? 24 years? Was it since nine 11 that they really changed all the protocol?

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

Has no one flown in 23 years that they don't know that you can't bring certain things on board? Knives onboard. We should all know this. This is very common. And even when you're checking a bag, they ask you, do you have anything in here that, whatever lithium batteries or whatever it is, okay, we all know this now. I just feel the amount of people I'm getting seen pulled over at TSA and I am in the pre-check line, and I see it there, and I think, gosh, you already have so many passes in this line. W why did you pack that in your bag? Do we just not remember? Or do we think that again, you're the most important person? So when I'm traveling, it doesn't matter if I'm getting pulled over as long as I make my flight, who gives a shit about the people behind me that potentially need to make theirs? It just becomes a very selfish place, and not in a healthy, selfish way. Just a world revolves around me kind of place. People just think that they could do anything. I don't have to take off my shoes and TSA precheck, which I love, but I have these combat boots that, and I've got taller boots too that I know set off the machine. So what do I do? I get in the precheck line, I immediately take off my shoes, put them in the little tray, put it with my bag. I had a guy on this last flight when I went to San Diego recently, say, you're in the pre-check line. You don't have to take off your shoes. And I said, oh, but I know that these boots, yes, they were made for walking, but they also will set off the machines. I'm taking them off. But I just thought it was pretty rich to. Try to school me on. Why are you doing that? Almost I'm taking time away from him. 'cause he was behind me when I just zipped him down. Took him off. Yeah. And was lickety split about it.

megan:

Yeah,

katiuscia:

but know what you're packing. You should know. You shouldn't let your kids go through the silverware drawer maybe before you're leaving and put an extra something in their bag.

megan:

I will say that when I worked in hospitality, I had completely forgotten that I had just thrown a corkscrew in the bottom of my purse. And so that got flagged at TSA. I was like, oh shit, I forgot that. I've been looking for that. I forgot that was in there.

katiuscia:

And then they take it and you're done.

megan:

Yeah. And they change the rules at every airport. It's just arbitrary and they don't want it consistent across board because then the terrorists can't know all the things.

katiuscia:

Oh, is that why?

megan:

Yeah, allegedly. It's stupid. I got flagged because I had too many roll of electrical tape in a carry on bag once and they had to go through my bag and I stood there. Now I get if. I don't, I'm not allowed to go to Walmart because I get rage at Walmart and like I, I had rage that day at the airport because the time it took for them to go through this bag, which was very neatly packed and figure out that, and I thought it because we were coming home from a dance competition. I thought it was all the safety pins that I had in there and it was not, they didn't care about those at all. They were fascinated by this basically what equates to a gallon Ziploc bag of electrical tape.

katiuscia:

Holy smoke.

megan:

It's for dance shoes. I'm the mom that has all the things. So to try to explain that to them and then they have to stand there and hem and haw it's tape, bud. You think I'm gonna electrical tape somebody to their seat? What? That I'm pretty sure I'm allowed to bring tape in my carry-on.

katiuscia:

It

megan:

wasn't

katiuscia:

a prohibited

megan:

item. You can have the fucking hairspray, but the tape, it set me off. I was. So full of rage at that. But then do I leave my bag of tiny liquids in my bag? Do I take it out? Do I leave my laptop in my bag? Do I take it out? Do you want me to turn it on? Do I not turn it on? Does it have to go in its own fucking bucket? I don't know. Nobody ever knows. And then they get annoyed at you for not just like knowing what they want. It's, it is a very imperfect system.

katiuscia:

It is interesting to me also that I think the liquid max is 3.4.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

Which is oddly specific. It

megan:

is.

katiuscia:

If it was 4.0 that would at least cover a lot of things. Mm-hmm. Or maybe it's 4.0 and I'm looking for 4.6 or something. There's a discrepancy where it's a random number. And I just think, well, most of the travel lotions or travel, whatever, a lot of them are three, but then you have some things that are four point whatever. Mm-hmm. And you think, are they gonna flag that and take it away from me? So then you don't risk it. But if, if that's your only option, it's kind of, well, I guess let's risk it and let's see who's really looking. I've been pulled aside though, in TSA before when I traveled, I always used to bring treats to all my flight attendants. That's how I traveled for years. Flight attendants and pilots individually wrapped toffee. It's when I lived in San Diego and I could make toffee. I still haven't gotten the altitude right here or the altitude adjustment, but I would travel and I'd always have it bagged up with individual bags inside. And I remember they had to pull me once and they swiped it. And same with once when I came back from Italy and once I hit US soil, I had candy or something in my bag and they swiped it all to make sure it was fine. And I just thought, what do you think is. You think my candy is explosive? You think that I don't understand what's going on here. But yeah, it's just, I just wanna get in and outta security as fast as anyone else. Nobody else, nobody wants to spend time there. It's really not a fun place to be. But other countries are very different. We went through Switzerland and when Switzerland, when we had to board to go to Rome, they were legit. They were giving you bags for your liquids and the, the amount that, whatever it translates to in, in that system, but. They were giving you that. And so immediately I just pull myself and my mom and I start thinking, alright, what's liquid? What constitutes as liquid? Oh well toothpaste does. Lotion does. It's any kind of thing. That's not peanut butter

megan:

does.

katiuscia:

Peanut butter does. This is why I didn't bring Nutella back on board with me 'cause I knew it would get taken. But anything like that. So I was trying to very strategically play stuff. And then I'm always extremely kind to TSA people. Hi, good morning. How's your day? Gracia? Whatever it is to just focus on me bud. Focus on me. Not that x-ray, it's just an extra tube of toothpaste. 'cause I wildly have them everywhere. That's

megan:

because you brush your teeth 30 times a day.

katiuscia:

Yes. So I have toothpaste everywhere. Tooth

megan:

six travel toothpaste. It's just

katiuscia:

for, for a weekend trip. Min Aquaphor, whatever it is I travel with. I really tried to be smart about what I brought on board this time, but unfortunately I didn't put it in a Ziploc bag because. I travel like this all the time. I've never had to take it out in all the years that I've been doing pre-check. So I didn't have to take it out. But then when I was faced with that, immediately I start thinking of what my mom has in her stuff, which is hairspray and this, and I'm just trying to finagle it all to fit. And it did. And then we were way smarter about it when we had to leave and come back, because I took two extra bags and I said, it all has to fit in here. And then I remember those people didn't even take that was in Rome. Rome didn't even make us take out the bag of liquids. So aren't

megan:

you disappointed then when you've gone through all that trouble to put it in a bag and then No. You leave it in your bag. What the hell?

katiuscia:

I don't even think I had to take my laptop out in Rome, maybe Switzerland. I did. They were just a little, and there's different rules there too. Mm-hmm. Right. So it's just talk about keeping everyone guessing. So yes, I guess if you had Ill will. You would be guessing. But it is annoying. And then I just wanna know. If you can technically bring baby formula for a baby, why is then all liquid banned? So I don't really think liquid to drink is banned. I think that it's banned on more of a extortion of selling level because if you can bring baby formula or medicines that you need, why can't you bring liquid? I don't see the hazard. I guess in liquid. A pocket knife? Yes. I mean,

megan:

so how much? I have no idea. And I really don't want to know. I don't actually care, so nobody tell me. But how much liquid, how much lotion does it take to make a liquid explosive? 'cause what's to, who's to stop me from bringing my liquid explosive and you from bringing your liquid explosive. And then we make a bigger what? Who can people not fly together and mix their liquid explosives? I don't understand. The actual thought process behind it. I remember when it first came out and we were all like, oh, okay, yeah, we don't wanna get blown up when we fly. But it just, when you really walk it out to its logical conclusion, and then if you have to throw it away, everybody's throwing all their liquid explosives away and this one big trash can right there next to the TS TSA people. That doesn't make sense either

katiuscia:

in one airport.

megan:

Yeah, that's, I just, I don't wanna make every episode about a conspiracy, but it just makes me think that they're trying to make it harder for us to utilize air travel for these 15 minute cities.

katiuscia:

Also,

megan:

just food for thought.

katiuscia:

Yeah, but also don't, maybe if you're not allowing liquid, don't have coffee shops, right. Where you check in your bag and then have to proceed to walk past the coffee shop, to go to TSA. You have

megan:

just slam your coffee.

katiuscia:

What is the point of that? Just to get

megan:

through

katiuscia:

TSA? Yeah. What's the, I don't understand the point of it. So there's a lot of logic in airport. What's it called? It's when you build something creation.

megan:

Sure. Planning

katiuscia:

there. Thank you. I'm still on another language brain, but what's the point of doing things like that where you just miss the logic completely? And again, maybe there is a legitimate point to certain

megan:

things. I think there's an ulterior motive. I

katiuscia:

think it's money.

megan:

Oh yeah. Absolutely. And it, they're planning on a person is smart and people are stupid. They're planning on people to just Yes, sir. Their way through that airport. Blindly

katiuscia:

following what they're told.

megan:

Yeah. ' katiuscia: cause that hasn't in life and history. But yes, keep, not keep doing what you're told, I guess. So it's a very frustrating thing. But let's talk about on the plane. Once you get, once you make it, once you're fortunate enough, and I will say I spent eight hours overnight in the

katiuscia:

00 AM. Waiting for a flight, nothing was open. That's an experience I to sit with our bags. And Denver's already a weird airport 'cause it's so big and just eerie feeling, waiting with our bags because security was closed from one to three. So we land and we're waiting. And that was just people sleeping, people on the floor. But people sleeping. Were mis paranoid over here. If you're in two, you take shifts to sleep. This is Hunger Games. Yeah. This is an Army mission. One of you has to sleep and the other one can stay awake. One of you has to keep watch. I don't care if you both don't sleep. We both didn't sleep because it wasn't worth it. And then yay. We can get through security when they open. And then we had access to a lounge for a couple hours to be able to sit. But oh, the lounge doesn't open till five. So now from three to five. We were just sitting in the gate area again without your big luggage, but you still have your main

megan:

mm-hmm.

katiuscia:

Valuables with you. I don't check valuables. I'm not dumb.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

I know that people go through things. I don't lock my whatever, but it's just once you get on that plane, then it's a whole other world. You thought the airport was bad?

megan:

Oh yeah. Again, people who are experiencing their first day on planet earth, it is wild.

katiuscia:

And the entitlement,

megan:

yeah. If you watch a movie on your phone, on a plane without headphones get bent. That's so rude. Like they don't, that is wild to me. I use headphones at my own house. If my family is around, I'm not gonna, I could never watch a whole movie on my phone. Without headphones on a plane or with other people.

katiuscia:

It's so loud on a plane too.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

Naturally.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

That you have to have that at the root, the craziest volume. Yeah. To even be able to hear anything. But even then you're not gonna hear.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

But why? I don't understand why people, but it's the same people who talk on speakerphone in public.

megan:

Yeah. Yeah. That's a dick move you guys.

katiuscia:

That's a whole other thing. This is also, if you're on a plane, you need to be kind to your flight attendants.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

This is the reason I used to bring them treats that I made, and they were so grateful, and my reason for that was not that I ever got special treatment sitting in the back of the plane. My reason was I know people are assholes to travel with. I've been traveling a long time since I was a little girl. I know how to treat. Have the proper etiquette and just the basic respect of treating people that are taking care of you. Goes back to, don't mess with people who mess with like deal with your food. But the way that I see flight attendants disrespected is just bananas to me. They're so rude.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

You think you're gonna get any special treatment or anything nice. You think you're gonna get chocolate when you ask for it. If you're being an asshole to the flight attendant, I'm gonna say no.

megan:

Yeah,

katiuscia:

you're not. So that's why I did it just as a, Hey, this is me. I'm not gonna give you any problems, but if you see me up, 'cause I'm cramping and dying, just throw me some water please. It's just very simple. But yeah, the entitlement and just the, the cruelty. It's this human nature that comes out that people just think we can treat people. However we can do whatever we want. Because I paid to be on this flight. Yeah. So did all of us. Yeah. And we're being cool. So

megan:

yeah. And the people who take their shoes off.

katiuscia:

Oh. I typically bring slippers if I'm on a long haul flight. That's fair. But I'm not gonna go barefoot on a plane.

megan:

No, that's nasty.

katiuscia:

Oh gosh, that

megan:

is so gross.

katiuscia:

It's the same way. I don't wanna put my purse down on the floor On a plane.

megan:

Yeah,

katiuscia:

because ew.

megan:

Or use the blanket. I think they still stock blankets on planes. Like, uh, no.

katiuscia:

Oh, I had a wrapped blanket though. A steeled blanket, which is probably just like nail salon tech shit, where

megan:

they just, I was gonna say, they don't auto plate those blankets. That's a hard pass for me. They just, and I am not a big germophobe, but No, nope.

katiuscia:

I used a blanket this time.

megan:

Well, I can't do that. Also, I would like to say that the neck pillow technology industry needs to step their game up.

katiuscia:

Oh, I don't

megan:

because neck pillows are bullshit.

katiuscia:

I typically don't sleep on planes. That's the thing.

megan:

Oh, I will fall asleep immediately on a plane.

katiuscia:

Oh, you're so lucky.

megan:

Nobody talked to me. I will fall asleep.

katiuscia:

You're very fortunate for that. I use planes, especially long haul flights as an excuse to catch up on all the movies that I never will go and see. So I just watch movies and so I'll stay awake forever.

megan:

I, yeah, I'll usually sit on the aisle, block my kids in and fall asleep, so they can't go anywhere. They can just fight amongst themselves right there. I don't care. I can sleep anywhere though.

katiuscia:

Yeah. Do you recline your seat or do you keep it up? Fuck

megan:

no.

katiuscia:

You just keep it upright and you can still fall

megan:

asleep. I need those two inches.

katiuscia:

Yeah.

megan:

To inconvenience the person behind me. Nope. That's

katiuscia:

nice to you.

megan:

It's not worth it.

katiuscia:

You, I never do. 'cause I never feel like it makes a difference to me. It does not. But then when I have people who do it in front of me,

megan:

it makes a huge difference when it's done to you. But when you doing it for your own chair, I don't think it makes any difference at all.

katiuscia:

And then I always tend to luck out with the people who are very the bang it. And then they'll get my knees. 'cause I have long legs. Yep. And I just think I can't even say anything.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

I can push back sometimes I'll push back with my hand. Just a little bit of resistance.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

Thinking. Yeah. Try to get it back further.

megan:

Do you as two people who have long hair, did you see the video of the girl who put her long ass hair over the seat?

katiuscia:

Yeah, the dog. And

megan:

they were putting gum in it.

katiuscia:

I did. Don't do that. Don't put your, don't put your hair.

megan:

Yeah, that's course

katiuscia:

over. Just keep it, keep everything to yourself. But I think the hugest PSA and my biggest, probably one of my biggest. Gross outs in life. The biggest icks is when I go into the lavatory on a plane and the seat is up from the person before me.

megan:

Mm. Just everybody closed the whole toilet.

katiuscia:

There's an actual sign that says, please close the lid before you flush. Oh, because you're in high pressure. Oh, well,

megan:

and then it doesn't splash

katiuscia:

and you've shot everything that you just left. You've shot it up in the air. Oh, yeah. Which, there's an extent of that that's gonna happen anyway, but it's going to happen way more if you don't close the effing lid before you flush.

megan:

Yeah, that's gross.

katiuscia:

It's disgusting. It infuriates me to a point of rage that I cannot express in words. It is just a feeling. It overtakes my body and I can't, I see white speckles of just anger and disgust, and then I look at that person who just walked out and then it's. See you're disgust. You're disgusted.

megan:

That's how I feel at Walmart.

katiuscia:

You close the lid.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

There's a reason. It's high pressure, dude. Nobody wants your DNA and bacteria back up in the air where Yes, I do brush my teeth everywhere and I will brush my teeth in an airplane.

megan:

Oh yeah.

katiuscia:

After I eat, so, Ew.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

I just, I probably have to go get detoxed from even going into that restroom the amount of times. 'cause it's just, I just don't understand.

megan:

Yeah. That's gross. Yeah. Speaking of flight attendants, the last trip I took had a flight attendant who was making her announcements and I feel about punchy flight attendants. I think the way you feel about Dutch bros. Workers calm down. You can tell a joke or two, but like simmer down. However, this woman, I think. Retired from a job as a phone sex operator to come be a flight attendant. Oh. 'cause of the way she was making these announcements and I was in tears. I was laughing so hard.

katiuscia:

Oh,

megan:

it was incredible. And don't forget to put your mask on your own self before putting it on anyone else. And I was just, I am not kidding. I was losing my mind. I was laughing so hard.

katiuscia:

Was she doing it on purpose or was that how she talked?

megan:

I

katiuscia:

just for the, in the explanation Or would, did she talk like that? Actually

megan:

I was not in her section or whatever during the fly. I was desperate to talk to her to see if that was her real voice, but it was incredible.

katiuscia:

Wow.

megan:

It was, it was amazing.

katiuscia:

What an experience

megan:

between her and I think we had a sassy gay flight attendant on the flight and it was just a whole fucking journey. It was amazing.

katiuscia:

Nice. I love good flight attendants though. We've had one experience where we had a very rude flight attendant and it was, we had bought premium seats. We sat in business class, and this was years ago, and that flight attendant was so rude to us, both to me and my mom, and we traveled Air Canada, which already you, they're always nice, right? Yeah. It's Canadians. They're super sweet. Typically, this lady was awful and I can handle a lot and I don't also ask for that much. I'm very simple in terms of that. I order what I want and then I'm not constantly, I never ring. I don't think I have a ring, a button for a flight attendant. I get up if I want more water and I'll go to the galley or whatever it's called and I'll ask. But I was, we were very nice and she was awful that I wrote Air Canada, a very descriptive letter of this and explained everything about it, and I remember they're not gonna be like, fly for free again. They should have, but they didn't. It was more of, I think they credited us towards a future flight. They gave us a good credit. That wasn't the purpose. The purpose to me was, I'm letting you know because this was a terrible experience and it's already a huge time, obligation, time off your life. You know what I mean? To do these long travels, you wanna be well rested. You don't wanna be treated like garbage by a flight attendant. I'm not treating you like garbage. I'm being very kind. And to be responded with that, it's just crazy to me. So it's just time you can't get back. It's a trip that. Yeah, it was a great trip in theory once we were at the destination, but man, that travel sucked and that will always stay in your head. Kinda like a bad restaurant situation. Yeah. But this is hours of your life that you're supposed to be getting rest and doing all the things, and then you don't, and you turn into a little bit of a bitter beaver about it.

megan:

So

katiuscia:

that was me about that, which is why I wrote that letter. Yeah. And that was before chat GPT. That was just with skills and heart and passion of telling you exactly how it was. I'm no stranger to constructive criticism. It wasn't mean, it was just bad. Bad. But yeah, be cool to your flight attendants.

megan:

Oh, absolutely.

katiuscia:

Don't take your nasty, don't put your nasty feet on the, or don't put your feet on the nasty floor because then you're gonna have nasty feet and then you're gonna go to the next flight and it's just gonna be a nasty feet trail.

megan:

Yeah. I have a Fri, I have a good friend who's a who, I was a flight attendant and I'm sure she had some stories. We haven't ever had a chance to sit down and talk about 'em. But my mom I grew up with, one of my mom's really good friends had been a flight attendant. And the stories that she told were just what? There's no possible way that humans are this stupid. But apparently they are.

katiuscia:

They are. And the other thing that, so us is very, I'm gonna say lenient on your roll-on baggage, carry on that you can, you know the little rollers? Mm-hmm. They're very lenient on the size of those. You get to Europe and they have,

megan:

they'll just throw it on the tarmac.

katiuscia:

You have to leave it there, fit it into the little section. Sure. Or it's not coming on because those planes are smaller. Yeah. They're domestic for that area of flights. Right. So not as easy to get it on. As I've seen some things go onto our planes that I just think. Well, it's a good thing I only had a backpack and a purse today. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Because I couldn't put it with your probably 47 pound roller bag that not only is wide, but it's also thick and it fits magically. I am a firm believer, firm. Firm that if you bring it on, you put it up.

megan:

Absolutely.

katiuscia:

Don't expect someone, other person, like a passenger to help you, a flight attendant, whatever. They'll probably help you 'cause they're usually nice and helpful, but don't expect another passenger to put it up for you and get it down for you. You bring it, you carry it. That's the rule of travel. That's the law of the travel land. Absolutely. I'm putting that in stone somewhere. You bring it, you carry it, you break it, you buy it. All those things. Yeah. Carry your own shit. No one is supposed to do it for you. And two, just because you put it two rows behind you, because it didn't fit, it doesn't mean that you one, get to hold up when everyone's exiting to go get it. And let's talk about the people who, the second, the plane turns off fest and seatbelt signs. Once it lands, they're lining up to leave Buddy, bring it back to COVID days where it was row by row. Basic respect. Not hurting out.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

Like a bull is chasing you.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

And Pamplona shit. Shit. Enough.

megan:

Yeah. There was one time where we had a very short connection and so we told the people around, listen you guys, we have 20 minutes to get across O'Hare or some just absolute ridiculousness. Would it be okay with you if we skedaddle and everybody's chill? 'cause all you have to do is communicate. But yeah, when this fucking race to stand up, oh my gosh. Get a grip.

katiuscia:

It's real bad.

megan:

It is wild to me. And I get, we all wanna stretch our legs and I get, we all wanna leave the plane. I get it. I wanna leave that plane too. I don't wanna be around all of you people. Calm down. We're all gonna get off the plane. They're not gonna hold anybody back. It's bonkers to me, and the shoving and the lack of personal space and it's just, it's astounding. The audacity.

katiuscia:

It's the audacity. It's really oh, out of control. There was a guy who came up, his luggage may have been a row or two ahead of me, but he was about seven rows back and he shoved his way up when the plane was still taxing when it landed so fast and seatbelt signs still on the flight. Attendants did not catch it, but he came and this ass started stretching his leg out and almost doing bend over stretches almost. Yoga cal. Almost yoga. Yeah. There. And I wanted to trip him so bad because he was just shoved in butt in my face, which already I'm, yeah, absolutely not. This is so incredibly rude. You could have stayed in your literal lane line and walked out peacefully. You didn't have to go back to get it. You were coming up and you took it as an excuse to get it and then stay there instead of moving your ass to the back of the bus like everyone else.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

You need to sit in your appropriate row. There's just basic rules. I don't feel like it's that complex to follow, but suddenly everyone gets on a plane and 98% of them think that the rules don't apply. Yeah. Or that they're just a suggestion, like a red light in Italy. They just keep going and pushing where they shouldn't be. And the sad thing is that a lot of the times, the flight attendants won't say anything and nobody wants to put them in a confrontation situation either. That's shitty that passengers put them in that situation though, where then we're all kind. Excuse. Excuse me. Yeah. Like what are you doing?

megan:

Well and if you're gonna stand up, stand up in your own little spot. And if you're too tall to stand up where you're sitting, then don't fucking stand up. But don't get in the aisle and put your butt or your crotch in somebody's face.

katiuscia:

It's rude,

megan:

it's nasty,

katiuscia:

it's unco.

megan:

Yeah. Like, and then you all end up at the same baggage carousel.

katiuscia:

That makes me so happy. It's kind of like the people who cut you off mm-hmm. On the road. And then you see them at the next light, but you happen to be in the other lane and then you end up getting to go faster. 'cause the person ahead of you is, you saved a lot of time there, bud. You just, everyone is in such a rush in such a hurry.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

That it's craz craziness. I will tell you though, on this trip, it was, we were supposed to end our trip in France, so we were gonna Paris for a couple days. And five days before we were supposed to go to Paris, I get a text from United saying, due to an air strike, a scheduled air traffic control strike in France, all over France. We need to reroute you, we'll reroute you at no charge. B, ba, bop, yada, yada, yada. So immediately I think, holy smokes, we have a one-way ticket to Paris. I have a hotel in Paris, so I end up getting on the phone with United and saying, okay, that's perfect. We just won't fly to Paris. We're leaving from Rome. No, this will only cover you. I think it was a 300 mile distance from any French airport. So Paris, Brussels, Amsterdam, Frankfurt. Yeah, we're in Rome though, so now we're gonna have to buy a new ticket to get to a new place and make sure that we make all our connections and this whole process. So we end up going to Frankfurt. That's the, we chose Frankfurt. Well, now I have to buy one-way tickets to Frankfurt, and they cost me two and a half times more than the one-way ticket to Paris. And I called the Paris. And by the way, this isn't just united saying it. It was all over the internet October this day to this day, scheduled strikes. So I call that airline and they say, well, we don't have it confirmed yet. Well, it is confirmed though, on the internet and as of United, and also, I just changed, I'm not even coming Paris anymore because you guys have a strike. And I booked from another city, so I ended up getting my money back for the hotel. And France. The airline would not refund us and wouldn't call it strike because it wasn't confirmed the day before. And what ended up happening was three days. So two days later, after we changed everything. So three days after I originally got the call. France canceled their strike. But in doing so, we had to extend our car and we didn't get our money back. Extend our car two and a half times the price of the air travel. We had to get a hotel the night before to leave at that time to make it. And then we sat all day in the Frankfort airport all night in the Denver airport. It was such a wild journey that to me, if you're gonna have a strike, and they had already scheduled it. Europe loves their strikes. If anyone's been to Europe, they know that they love their strikes. Italy was on rail strike one of the days that we were in Naples. You love your strikes, fine. If you're gonna pick a strike day, commit to it. Because at that point, if they had just stayed with their strike, I would've been fine. It was so frustrating to me because there's nothing that could be done about these things. So they're just kind of hazards of traveling to countries that tend to go on strike frequently. But when I thought that no one was willing to help or talk it through, and it's, I'm not making this up. This is on. The internet, so it has to be real. But it was on many websites on the internet that this was a scheduled thing. And what ended up happening was they came to an agreement, that agreement that made them more money and cost a ton more money for us in the long run, which just left a bad taste because it literally took us almost 48 hours to get home. So that's when all of the shenanigans that people do in the airport, you see it even more.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

When you're delirious and you've been in an airport for almost 48 hours full or on a plane full

megan:

of, yeah, that sounds like extortion to me. It's on plan strike, or is it just the way to jack out the prices of everything

katiuscia:

and then you still kept your money? Because technically I could have still gone on that flight, but who am I to risk? I have been delayed. Yeah. You're gonna wait

megan:

until the 11th hour? No.

katiuscia:

Who We've been delayed in the Paris or our plane. Was delayed significantly in Paris once, and that is not my ideal airport.

megan:

Mm-hmm. So

katiuscia:

it ended up being that kind of blessing in disguise, although it was a financially big cost blessing, but a blessing because I had a lot of people sending me Instagram stuff. Look at all these protests in Paris right now around the Eiffel Tower, around this. Thousands of people that, as people who aren't from Paris but were Italian, I wouldn't have even felt safe going there with all of the shenanigans that were going on. So you look at it that way, but it's also, alright, I'm booking from Boise next time. We are not doing any weird kind of travel stuff. If we're gonna take a side trip, we're gonna do it in the middle of the trip and not at the end. Because look what just happened. So you learn all these things with every experience, but we hadn't. Traveled in almost four years to Italy, so it was a huge thing for us to even be able to go and then to be faced with that on the way back where you're dealing with everyone in the airport who's their overnight different crowd already.

megan:

Mm-hmm.

katiuscia:

And then just people who don't know where they're going and people who were now short with their patients. Even workers short with their patients.

megan:

Oh yeah.

katiuscia:

Everyone just gets to that point. You can see it happening also, especially overnight in the airport. You see who's coming on all fresh in the morning. Mm-hmm. 00 AM flights, and then you're seeing who's rolling out at midnight just done with the world.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

I feel it.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

I kept my contacts and I've calculated, when I got home, they were in for 47 or something hours,

megan:

that makes my eyeballs hurt

katiuscia:

and I thought this can't be good for my long-term vision. Also, I have the beginning stages of glaucoma is what they told me last year, as if being in the forties and knowing that my hip hurts now when I, it'll hurt when I get up. My hip hurts. Now I have the beginning stages of glaucoma. I'm pretty sure 47 hours and the same pair of daily contacts isn't gonna be a good thing.

megan:

Yeah, probably not ideal.

katiuscia:

We live and we learn, we live on the edge of stupid decisions. Sometimes just tired, stupid decisions.

megan:

Oh, what about the people who clap when the plane lands?

katiuscia:

Oh no, stop. Yeah, you got congrats. You got there, you did your job. That was what we were supposed to do. We were supposed to get there. That's so weird to me.

megan:

Yeah,

katiuscia:

it's typically, do you see it a lot on domestic travel?

megan:

I haven't flown internationally in a long time and I don't see a lot of clapping, but recently two of the flights that I was on, people clapped when the plane landed and it was just keeps coming into Denver is always super turbulence and people panic and then they're, I think they're clapping 'cause they're happy we didn't crash, but I don't. I never clapped when a taxi or an Uber got me to my destination. I've never, I don't know, get a grip

katiuscia:

when I get myself to a destination. Yeah. I'll tell you what I do.

megan:

I'm gonna start clapping

katiuscia:

you, you yourself when

megan:

I get Yeah. Good job. You made it to the grocery store. Well,

katiuscia:

well

megan:

done. Well done. You, you pulled into that parking spot one time. Good

katiuscia:

for you. Well done. You deserve a treat. You deserve a treat. I will say every time my mom taught this to me, so every time the plane takes off sign of the cross.

megan:

Sure.

katiuscia:

Every time I land, I'm always, thank you, God. Mm-hmm. We're here. But I will never make a production and start clapping about it. You've been to Denver? I've been to Denver. Denver is the gnarliest for turbulence that I've ever experienced in my life. And sometimes coming into Boise is real bad too. Yeah. Depending on the time of year. But nothing that has shot me literally out of a seat in a seatbelt. 'cause I'm not gonna tighten that where I can't breathe. I'm gonna have wiggle room till shift. But it bumped us out and people were screaming on my last flight to Europe four years ago, women were screaming, 00 AM flight. It was terrifying. But I didn't even clap for that. I think as that was happening, I was probably praying.

megan:

Sure.

katiuscia:

Probably rosary or something. You've gotta make it here at least to eat. I don't know, a pastry, you've gotta make it to your destination. Come on. God. I haven't had it for so long, but no, I don't wanna, I don't wanna hear your clapping. I don't wanna hear clapping. I just don't wanna hear it.

megan:

Yeah,

katiuscia:

make sure your kids have things to do also.

megan:

Yeah,

katiuscia:

because I don't need them to try to be friends with me either. With all due respect.

megan:

Yeah. No, and, and I will say that the amount of activities that you think you've brought for your kids, double or triple it. Because they will burn through a coloring book like you've never seen on a plane. I don't get mad about babies crying because babies cry. That's what they do. And I have been the, oh my gosh, I have been the mom with a crying baby on a flight and it is so stressful. So I don't, that doesn't bother me. But a kid who's old enough to know better than to be screaming or kicking a seat or what? No, no, no, you don't. There's a human sitting in that seat. You don't, do not kick that seat. Do not yell on this flight. You talk right here in my ear. Training opportunity for kids, but also, apparently a lot of adults have not been trained on how to properly travel.

katiuscia:

They haven't. I used to take red eyes when I was in San Diego to go to the East Coast, and I liked the red eyes a lot because I thought, cool, if I have to sleep for an hour, I can, when I'm not watching movies or something. Notoriously, there is always a baby that probably a parent thinks I'm gonna take a red eye 'cause the baby sleeps through the night. No. And maybe the baby will sleep. That baby is not sleeping through the night. So I don't, I don't think that's the time to take the baby because for all the people who need to walk into a corporate meeting or something and they have these screaming babies, which again, I feel bad for it, but I'm also why on this flight, why aren't you on the morning flight? Just be awake with everyone. Not when we're all trying to sleep. It's a hard a shied away from red eyes. This time I will say there was a baby in front of us on one of the legs of the flights, a nine hour leg to DC from Frankfurt. And that baby, you could tell that baby had been traveled before because it was totally fine. Passed from parent to parent. Super easy, happy, smiling, and I just thought, I want whatever this baby is on because. He's totally chill. The best baby. And then I've been on other ones where you could tell, maybe it was the first flight. My mom had taken me on my first flight to Italy at six months.

megan:

Mm-hmm.

katiuscia:

But she had done obviously shorter flights before. Then you gotta see some babies literally can't handle it. It's so bad and it hurts me. So how does it not hurt them?

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

Ears and stuff.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

But yeah, it's always notorious that you get a screaming baby on a red eye flight. It's just, you book it, you know that there's a screaming baby. It's just, it's a life joke.

megan:

I haven't been on a red eye in 20 years and I don't remember. 'cause I was a young And

katiuscia:

you were just a, A young kid.

megan:

Yeah, so I actually, it's probably been closer to 25 years that I've been on a red eye.

katiuscia:

Oh wow.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

The last time I was on one was in 2017. I went to Boston. I met my friend. He was coming from Florida at that time. But he got in at nine or 10 in the morning and by nine or 10 in the morning, I had landed at five. So I went to the hotel, I had treats for my staff, I had treats for the hotel staff. I don't need a room, can you just hold it and be nice? And then I think they ended up giving me a room, which was really cool. And then I explored, I went to all these places. I went to Duncan. I did all this cool shit before he even got there.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

And by the time he got there, I was like, let's keep going. 'cause that was, that's what I like to do in cities. I like to walk new cities and see them and explore. So if I get in at five o'clock in the morning, you can bet your bottom dollar, I am ex, I'm not going to bed. Jet lag has nothing on me because I'll just push through it and rally and get on the same life schedule that I need to be on. I think when I got back here, we landed at 11 or something, which was nice to come back in the middle of the day. I think I slept normally that night and then it was two days later that, not that I had a jet lag situation. I think 48 hours of wired travel finally hit me, where now not only did the travel exhaustion hit me, but the germs of every disgusting non hand washing in Cubas shared on those planes and in that airport. 'cause it's all just circling through.

megan:

Yep.

katiuscia:

That hit me.

megan:

Sure.

katiuscia:

Where I just needed to conk out.

megan:

Sure. Well, and being situationally aware for that long is very taxing.

katiuscia:

That's exhausting. Just travel in general.

megan:

It is. It's so exhausting.

katiuscia:

Which is why even for places like us, it's not worth going to the airport to fly to Salt Lake City when we can drive there in five and a half hours. Yeah. Because by the time you. Get to the airport and check your stuff and then take a flight. That's way too expensive to get to Salt Lake. You could just be there and have your car.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

And bring stuff back with you.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

It's just, and it's an easy drive. I like that. Drive a lot.

megan:

Yeah. It's not a

katiuscia:

bad drive. That drive was fun with us.

megan:

I will say, uh, if you have to drive that drive in the dark, in the pouring rain, uh, it sucks.

katiuscia:

I'm gonna, yeah. I'll add on to my, I like that drive. I'll never drive that drive in the winter. Yeah. Rain aside, I don't wanna drive in the rain. 'cause then there's no lights on the, those roads, but the snow would freak me right out. Yeah. So that's where you just suck it up and pay the premium and fly if you have to go

megan:

see. And I, I don't mind driving in the snow. I'm a very capable winter weather driver. It's all the other people that I don't know about, so I don't like that. But I did have to drive from Boise to Salt Lake after I worked a 12 hour shift. So I got off work at seven 30 and it was in the fall. So it was dark when I started driving and it was just this heinous rainstorm, and I don't think I had ever driven down there by myself at that point. And all of the reflective paint on the road gets wor worn away. And so I couldn't see the lines on the road. I couldn't see. All I could see was the taillights in front of me. I was to tailgating so bad. And by the time I got there, I was just white knuckling the steering wheel the whole time. I was so stressed out from that drive because all you see is farm exit, no services, farm exit, no services, and it starts really stressing you out. And this was before I didn't have an iPhone with GPS. I was using a straight up map or out to the tele guides, or I had probably printed off some MapQuest directions of how to get from the freeway to the hotel where I was meeting my person who was already there. So stressful. I was a wreck. I probably slept harder that night than I have in years.

katiuscia:

How are you with driving at night now as an adult, as a full grown adult?

megan:

Well, I have a pretty sweet astigmatism, so yay for that. Um, if I know where I'm going, no big deal. It doesn't bother me.

katiuscia:

Okay. I can't, I can't do it anymore. It's, I can do it.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

I really would elect not to do it because my astigmatism also so bad, but I find that something that's the reflections. So it's the light

megan:

mm-hmm.

katiuscia:

Off and then add rain to that. Oh. If it's raining

megan:

and it's dark

katiuscia:

worse and

megan:

I've never been there before, I really don't want to do it.

katiuscia:

My eyes get so strained now that I just opt to, I would love to not be able to drive at night because it's very stressful for me. Yeah. And it hurts. I have

megan:

glasses that I'll wear to drive at night. And just to kind of counter that, are you in

katiuscia:

context during the day also,

megan:

I had lasik.

katiuscia:

Oh. What a gift,

megan:

but that's how I didn't have an astigmatism before.

katiuscia:

Okay.

megan:

I have it due to the lasik.

katiuscia:

Interesting. I wasn't a candidate for LASIK because of all the medicines that I've been on. Sure. In the past, but I'm always in contact, so I also feel there's something, I always say it's my peripheral. There's something with the peripheral that everything just plays tricks on me. If it's dark out and I'm driving the same way, I couldn't just wear my glasses because I need to know what I can see peripherally, which is why I don't get glasses with the sun. Glasses also type deal. Yeah. There's, it's not worth it to me. I would just, can someone else just drive at night for me?

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

I just have a chauffeur on

megan:

dago. Yeah. I don't mind driving, and especially with having glasses to wear at night, it helps me a lot. It just sharpens it up and kind of counters that, but it doesn't bother me too much. But I also would like to be in bed when it's dark. I should be in bed.

katiuscia:

That's how I feel when I wake up, when the hour goes back or just coming into fall, winter when it's darker naturally in the morning and then I wake up and I'm supposed to be super productive because it's the time that I should be waking up or you know, if it's seven 30 still and it's still dark. Yeah, it was still dark the other day. I was just, no, I don't like this. Yeah, I don't want that.

megan:

Well, that's why new, the new year was supposed to start in April, not the darkest fucking time of the year.

katiuscia:

Oh yeah. We gotta talk. We'll have to talk about that. That's gonna, 'cause I don't know anything about that.

megan:

Oh, I'm, that's a big one I'm on right now.

katiuscia:

Okay. I'll have to rabbit hole that. Or you'll, I'll just let you do it for me.

megan:

I will.

katiuscia:

And then you can explain it all. Well, I'm just happy to be home. So

megan:

Yes, we're happy to have you home. Thanks. It's nice to go. I like going and exploring places and going new places and all of that. I just don't like the method of getting there all the time. But it's always so wonderful to come home. It makes home that much better. I think

katiuscia:

it does

megan:

the most hallmark shit I'm ever gonna say,

katiuscia:

but, but it's so true. Mm-hmm. There is something, my dogs were all excited. They just, they were just over the moon and there was just something about, okay, sitting in my own bed and not stressing about things that we need to do for our family home over there. And just now I just get to worry about things I have to do for my house here. So it's perfect and all my work, but there, yeah, it's very nice to come home, but it's nice to disconnect for a while. Again, if we had Elon level money, we would just have our own plane.

megan:

That would be amazing.

katiuscia:

And then hire the most elite staff to just be cool. And I wouldn't even make them work the whole time. We'd be watching movies and shit. Okay. Serve us food and then have a drink and like, let's sit here

megan:

with me and we'll

katiuscia:

watch. Yeah. Let's chill. Let's talk about life. It would be fun.

megan:

Play some Uno.

katiuscia:

Yeah. That's right. Just whatever it is.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

But it's nice to be home. It's good to go, but man, what a journey. I haven't had a journey like that in a while in terms of adventuring, getting home, Lord of the Ring style, just everywhere you had to go.

megan:

The thing that still cracks me up about that trip is that most people go to Italy to have a fun, relaxing vacation. And you were still just pissed off. In Italy.

katiuscia:

There was a lot that happened in Italy, including three and a half days to try to open a bank account because everything's just bureaucratic bullshit where you have to, when I told you I was opening a bank account, you said you're in the mafia, you're opening a bank account was the only, well,

megan:

you said that you were going, you had an appointment at the bank. And I was like, that is mafia shit. I know it. I know it is.

katiuscia:

It wasn't, it wasn't. It was three and a half days to open the account and then on the last two or three hours, we literally closed the account because it was just so complex and I think the system broke. We broke for sure. Our minds, our sanity, everything. But yeah, I can go into any bank here and in 30 minutes be out.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

With a temporary check or something. Yeah. You know what

megan:

I mean? Yeah.

katiuscia:

You can't do that there. It's just so wild. I love the culture. I am a citizen of both countries, but that was something that I just couldn't get around. So yeah. And then the journey, it was a lot of, uh, beautiful additives, let's say.

megan:

Well, and I think no matter how easygoing you are, I'm a pretty easygoing person, but when my travel plans change at the last minute, it's so stressful. And that's when I get a little ragey.

katiuscia:

Yeah. And that's where if you know anyone saw me in the airport and I didn't smile at you, I'm sorry. I'm not sorry because I was just in a very, I just tried to survive.

megan:

Yeah. That's

katiuscia:

what I tried to do the whole time. Eat a cookie. Survive.

megan:

There you go.

katiuscia:

That's it. That's all we can do. Eat a cookie and survive

megan:

my whole life strategy.

katiuscia:

That's the life. I feel like that's a really good life hack. Eat a cookie and just survive.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

You're doing great, sweetie. That's what Joe always tells me. You're doing great, sweetie. So that's it. I'm, you're doing great, sweetie. I'm gonna tell you right now.

megan:

Thanks. So are you.

katiuscia:

Thanks so much. Thank you. All right, well that's it then.

megan:

Okay.

katiuscia:

Do all the things. Make sure you like all the things and

megan:

Oh, yeah.

katiuscia:

Share and Ooh, send in your, your most exciting travel drama stories. Oh,

megan:

yeah.

katiuscia:

Because I wanna hear what other airports are doing that haven't hit us yet, and what experiences people are have. I'd love to hear some travel stories, so please send those in.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

Yeah. Your best and worst. Yeah. Best and worst, and, yeah. We'll judge 'em. We'll take a, we'll do a poll on who gets it.

megan:

If we get enough, we should do a March Madness bracket style.

katiuscia:

Ooh. All right. So send 'em in.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

Direct message us or email us all the infos in the show notes. And make sure you follow us on Instagram and share with all your cool friends who have a sense of humor and a good personality. Yeah, I think that's good. And then have a good day to everyone. Except for the people who design the plain seats and the movie theater seats. I don't wanna be sharing an armrest. Why are we sharing armrest with everybody

megan:

who gets

katiuscia:

it?

megan:

Who the middle person could say arm armrest. 'cause they're both, well, they're stuck in the middle. They get both. Both. But then you have another armrest one, but

katiuscia:

they're in the

megan:

middle,

katiuscia:

but then they can't take up both anyway to that person. Okay. To those designers. Yeah. Oh, there it is. Plain designers One. Same with movie theaters and venues.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

Have a good day, everyone, except you.

megan:

Okay.

katiuscia:

Okay. Bye.

megan:

Bye.