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#31: Are We Vintage… or Just Old? (90s & 2000s Nostalgia)

• Katiuscia + Megan

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Are we vintage… or just emotionally attached to the past?

We're spiraling hard into nostalgia, revisiting the cartoons, movies, toys, and random childhood obsessions that shaped us in the ’90s and early 2000s.

From My Little Pony figures and Strawberry Shortcake stationery to truly unhinged collectibles (including George W. Bush playing cards), nothing is off-limits. We mourn the loss of Blockbuster nights, disposable cameras, and the unmatched joy of renting movies and ordering pizza like it was a full-blown event.

We also ask the real questions:
 Why did fashion get harder? Why are jeans impossible now? And when did life stop feeling fun without a subscription?

If you miss a time when we weren’t always online, plans were simple, and nostalgia hits a little too close to home — this episode is pure comfort listening.

00:00  Are We Vintage or Just Nostalgic?
03:20  Childhood Cartoons and Core Memories
08:45  Toys, Collectibles, and Unhinged Merch
14:30  The Era of Stationery, Stickers, and Stuff
19:40  Fashion Then vs Fashion Now (Why Are Jeans So Hard?)
26:10  Blockbuster Nights and Movie Rentals
32:55  Disposable Cameras and Pre-Internet Fun
38:20  When Plans Were Simple and Not Digital
44:10  Why Nostalgia Feels So Comforting
50:25  Missing Life Before Subscriptions
58:10  Final Thoughts: Are We Vintage?

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Don't even bother.

katiuscia:

Uh, what was your favorite cartoon growing up?

megan:

Rainbow Bright.

katiuscia:

Bright. That was a fun one.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

What else?

megan:

Oh,

katiuscia:

maybe not Cartoon Now show. Well, okay, so we know I was in My Little Pony. I, my, my

megan:

little, oh, I was Little, little Pony because at one point in the eighties, in the late eighties, my Little Pony, the cartoon had a girl named Megan.

katiuscia:

Oh yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So

megan:

that was like,

katiuscia:

hold on. Even in the movie, like there was a movie. I don't know if you ever saw that. My Little Pony movie. I

megan:

probably did.

katiuscia:

You can't find it on YouTube or something, but My Little Pony back then was so cool. Yeah. I had all these figurines in my Little Pony. Oh, I did too.

megan:

I even had the, like the little seahorses for the bathtub. Oh

katiuscia:

yeah.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

My Little Pony. Then they made 'em all modernized like they've done to everything else. And they ruined.

megan:

I know the animation got weird. It's all C, they ruined it. C, GI now. Yeah.

katiuscia:

So they did have the girl named Megan. And Wind Drifter and North Star were all these pony names. Po Ponies Care Bears, I think.

megan:

Yeah. Care Bears were pretty rad.

katiuscia:

We always ask ourselves the generalized question of are we vintage? And the answer is yes.

megan:

I was gonna say I, yeah, probably

katiuscia:

we are vintage.

megan:

What is vi? Like what's,

katiuscia:

well

megan:

the facts, what the actual like parameters of vintage,

katiuscia:

anything that's probably older than back in time of another generation. Kind of like when we were growing up and we were, you looked at the seventies stuff.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

Seventies clothing. Yeah. So what was that? I'm sorry. The era, like hippie era. Um. So it was seventies day at school or sixties day at school, fifties. And you'd wear the poodle skirt. Right. These are all vintage things that you think in your head. I never thought that I would live to see the day where Juicy Couture, velour Sweatsuits became vintage because kids are finding them in thrift stores and

megan:

that's heinous.

katiuscia:

Mm-hmm. And wearing them. Yeah. And just love and loving it and, and saying things like, I saw these, look, I scored these vintage things.

megan:

Yeah. That's upsetting a little bit. Yeah. Like vintage makes it seem like it's really cool.

katiuscia:

It does. As original mean girls, Regina George, when the girl's like it was my mom's in the seventies and she said, oh, vintage. Oh, vintage. I love it. That is the ugliest f'ing skirt I have ever seen. The skirt was cute, but it was same like you. That's the idea of vintage. It's something older that,

megan:

yeah. Well then you can call me vintage 'cause I've never been cool. Not once in my life.

katiuscia:

We are just, I think it's just, I would prefer to be vintage than be modern. Remember a couple months ago when I was trying on jeans forever and I sent you a picture?

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

And I said, what, what the fuck,

megan:

what the fuck are these pants?

katiuscia:

The fuck are these pants? And it was these, I say that

megan:

daily.

katiuscia:

It is daily. And you just shared an Amazon, uh, what has been in your like algorithm for all of your

megan:

Well, I don't know how to dress myself first of all, because I just wanna be jeans and a t-shirt. And every dude in my life is like, well, just wear what you're comfortable in. Well, I don't fucking know what pants to wear anymore. Like cussing necessary. It upsets me to, because I fought skinny jeans for years when they came out in the early two thousands. And like, I like a boot cut gene when I'm wearing boots, but I'm not like a full-time real authentic cowgirl. So I can't wear boots every day in my life. And so. I just, I don't know what pants to wear anymore. I feel like you pull off a skinny jean really well. And then I feel like there are times where I put a skinny jean on and I'm like, well, I look like an asshole. And then now the big baggy jeans are in. And I have one mom friend who is super fashionable and she always looks gorgeous and on trend. And so I've talked to her about it many, many times. And I'm like, what pants do I wear now? And she'll show me and then I get them and I put them on and I'm like, I look like an asshole, or I look a little butch, or I look like it's just, I don't know, because I still wanna wear the same t-shirts and then I wear 'em with these. I just, nothing's. I don't know how to dress myself as a 43-year-old woman.

katiuscia:

I think it's always just dress for whatever's comfortable. Whatever you're most comfortable in, I think we might be in

megan:

it. I think no one wants me to do that.

katiuscia:

I, I think we might be in an era though, where probably the majority of people don't give a shit. Have you seen how some of these people dress? Yeah. When you're walking out on the street of a downtown Boise, for example. Yeah. Or even in a Target. That's my always, that's my favorite example. Walk through a target and find out how much nobody gives a shit.

megan:

Well, and then there's the fact that all these baggy pants, like I'm wearing straight leg pants today, and they, I like them. They're comfortable to wear, they're nice to high their rib cage rise, so they're very high wasted. Which, 'cause I am not, they're

katiuscia:

rib cage

megan:

rise. They're rib cage, that's what they say. And I am not built for a low rise pant. So thank God I'm not doing that. I'm not going back to that. But the problem is. Is that the baggy pants are also supposed to be short. And having lived through the nineties, when you have long legs, I have long legs. We got made fun of. If your pants were too short, it's the flood. I have trauma,

katiuscia:

where's

megan:

the flood for short pants? Mm-hmm. And so I have a real hard time wearing these freaking short pants. Even these are like a 32 in seam. And I'm still like, these are so short. And so I still dunno how, and, and I was in a profession where I wore scrubs every day for 10 years.

katiuscia:

Right.

megan:

And so I didn't have to, it was great.

katiuscia:

Yeah.

megan:

And so now I'm like, I don't know. I have no idea how to dress myself.

katiuscia:

The skinny jeans for me, I find are the easiest because whether I'm wearing heels, if I'm dressing them up, if I am wearing boots, which I wear boots a lot of. I can't find a good boot cut anymore. And actually it's hard to find anything that's literally called boot cut maybe, unless you go to maybe a Levi's or something brand wise. But it's hard to find the standard boot cut now. Everything's, you know, uh, wide leg, straight leg, relaxed fit and I just think, isn't that the same shit? Flare? Sorry, flare.

megan:

Well, yeah,

katiuscia:

it's seventies flare is coming back.

megan:

All the boot cuts are now just a flare and I don't want to flare. I don't, I want a boot cut.

katiuscia:

I also don't want that seventies flare a bell, bottom bell, bottom flare.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

So it's, um, it's a very different era I'd think. I mean, it took me, I don't know, two months to finally just realize that Express has the jeans that I need because I was going through brand after brand of trying them on and those really baggy ones, although I felt like I looked so Child li childlike. Or Childishly tiny in those big baggy jeans, they were over a hundred dollars for. For what? These aren't flattering. These are, yeah. You pull enough and you're gonna get pantsed. This is, they reminded me of the jeans that, like the thug, the wannabe thugs wear with their boxers, you know, hanging off their butt. Yeah. Where I just think what's happening right now.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

Are we vintage? Yes. But I want cool vintage shit. I don't want the weird stuff of our time to come back. We want

megan:

OT jeans,

katiuscia:

OTs. Holy smokes. Yeah. Yeah. But anytime, and even for me, long legs, ordering a long size, the skinnies are still gonna come in short. And that's, but

megan:

that's

katiuscia:

okay because they're skinny as I know. But

megan:

if I'm in, but like a pencil pant, they can't hit above the ankle.

katiuscia:

But Yeah. But still,

megan:

it's just a weird, well I would like, like to just, I'm gonna shout out Wrangler, 'cause at least I can order a width and a length.

katiuscia:

Oh, and you could probably get a boot. The boot cut.

megan:

That's all. Boot, yeah.

katiuscia:

Mm-hmm.

megan:

And there's actually a great western retail shop where I get my boot cut jeans for less than $9 million.

katiuscia:

Nice.

megan:

Um, but men's pants, my husband can go and tell me, I want this, you know, X by X number. I'm not gonna give out his measurements, but, and I can just go and buy him a pair of pants and he just puts them on and wears them around.

katiuscia:

Perfect. Fit. Like a Cinderella fit.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

Yeah.

megan:

And I can go and order jeans, even wranglers, I want, you know, whatever. By 34. And for every dude in my life who's like, you're noted, 34. Yes. I, yes I am. Um, and they may not fit me.

katiuscia:

That's the problem. So with women's sizes, as you know, and as everyone listening has experienced, you have either the evens or the odds, right.

megan:

And

katiuscia:

four, six, it's just arbitrary.

megan:

It's

katiuscia:

just 3, 5, 7. Then you've got the inches. Yeah. The waist, the 27, the 20. Okay. The problem is if I measure my waist and I have a size, and I go in and get that size, theoretically like a man's pants. Yeah. It should fit me perfectly and it doesn't. Yeah. So the variances with size to size that, then I just think, hey, women's gene companies, what are you doing that, are we on a different country's measuring system? If you know, 27, 28 to this brand is different than 20 and then it's like a 22.

megan:

Like

katiuscia:

what's happening right

megan:

now? A quick take measure. Are we

katiuscia:

using, I don't, a really weird one. Has it been stretched? Was it elastic or was it like shrunken in?

megan:

Well, and are we met like these pants, ribcage pants actually sit on my way and I have a TA short ass little torso. Mm-hmm. And so that's my actual waist. Are we measuring my waist? Are we measuring my hips? Are we what? What the fuck? What are we fucking measuring?

katiuscia:

I like the size charts that give you the exact things, go three inches above your belly button and that's your weight. You know what I mean? Yeah. They'll give you those sit above, you know, take the widest part of your hip, but still,

megan:

yeah.

katiuscia:

It's just, it's very confusing and it's very frustrating for those of us trying on jeans.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

And especially if you're in between sizes where you're like, I lost some weight, but I'm not quite this thin, but I want these. But it's a shit show. Then you have to wear a belt.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

That weighs 18 pounds.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

Because you don't have another one and you need another notch on it, but you have no way of figuring it out.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

So, you know, processes, Amazon will come in really handy for that, but it's just, I just wanna dress comfortably. But still, I mean, in my job especially, I meet with people. I go to events. I'm always dressed nice for the most part. But let's talk about our shirts today because. For, for those who can't see him.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

Megan has a Ramones shirt on.

megan:

Yep.

katiuscia:

Is that your favorite?

megan:

Oh no.

katiuscia:

Mm.

megan:

This shirt fits weird. It was, it feels like it was made by people who've never Uh, no. Your

katiuscia:

favorite band

megan:

seen a human before. No. Ramones are not my favorite band, but I do love the Ramones. Okay.

katiuscia:

Okay. Like

megan:

if the Ramones come on the radio, we're listening to it.

katiuscia:

You're in a jam

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

Jam session.

megan:

Yep.

katiuscia:

Okay.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

I have the Ninja Turtles on my shirt.

megan:

I was a huge fan of the

katiuscia:

Ninja Turtles. Yes. The Ninja Turtles were cool because it was kind of like a boy cartoon, but also one that we like. I could watch, I had, you know, uncles, they didn't really watch it, but then I had friends my age that they would talk about the Ninja Turtles and you know, Michelangelo was a party dude.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

So, well, and just the things you

megan:

remember.

katiuscia:

Yeah.

megan:

My younger brother's seven years younger than me and that was like, we didn't bond over a lot when we were little, little, you know?'cause that's a huge age gap really. But we bonded over the turtles.

katiuscia:

Turtles were great. My uncle is, I mean, I wouldn't say insanely older than me, but I grew up with them. Right. I grew up with my youngest aunt and the youngest uncle, so he's probably 15 years. No, no, no. Sorry. That's way too old. He's, how old am I? Carry the two, so he's like 12, 11 or 12 years older than me, but maybe if that, but he, 10, 11, it doesn't matter. Anyway, he had these GI Joe figurines. Okay. And not the size of Barbies. Remember how then,

megan:

yeah.

katiuscia:

GI Joe started to come out bigger. I'm talking like little two and a half, three inch figurines that were probably collectible shit that he had in his shoebox in the closet, and sometimes I got to play with them. Yeah. And one of them, I think at one point only had one arm. And I'm pretty, I'm I, I can't guarantee that I'm the one who did it or I have a responsibility for that. But you know, military, GI Joe kind of tracks, right? It could happen. It could happen. Unfortunately, it has happened to others. So that's the

megan:

purple heart. Gi I, Joe,

katiuscia:

that's the purple. That's what I remember. I remember being able to kind of have his GI Joes and then I also had my ponies, which was great. I had a bunch of my ponies in the attic of my grandfather's house for years. And then after he passed away, the house was cleaned out. I think the attic was emptied and that box went missing. And it was unfortunate because that's something that I really thought probably would've been collector shit. Almost like a Beanie baby. Not quite a labu Booo, because I'm not on I, the obsession with this labu boo shit is crazy right now.

megan:

Dude. Labu boos are just demons.

katiuscia:

They're really creepy. They're very creepy. Yeah. But the obsession is real. So I thought, gosh, wouldn't it have been way cooler? To have on My Little Pony that also came with a brush that you could brush her tail. Yeah. And her Maine.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

It was great. Yeah. I loved it. They're gone and I don't know where, but yeah, there was a,

megan:

you know what else I loved Shera.

katiuscia:

Shera,

megan:

princess of Power. I was bury into that. Wow.'cause I had brothers who did the Heman thing, and so we could have all the figurines we could play in the same world

katiuscia:

you did. That's right. Shera and Heman. My aunt, who's six and a half years older than me, had a Barbie house and it was the coolest house, and it was, I mean, massive. But one of the side walls came down, and now that I think about it, it's basically the equivalent of when you go to these fancy bars downtown and their garage. Oh yeah. They have one of the roll up garages. It was kind of like that. Like it came down into an open living space, which I thought was so cool. And she didn't really want me playing too much with it, but I did anyway. Sorry. My grandma also was, she was really talented at sewing and so she would make Barbie dresses. Oh, fancy dresses for my Barbies. And I had so many of them. And I think in a bin somewhere, I still have some of those, like somewhere in a tote, you know, one of the plastic Tobins, I think I have some of those dresses. I wanna, I wanna see, I think I might have kept my pretty Barbies and then I went through the phase of Barbies where you, like, you're a hairdresser.'cause my mom is a hairstylist, so it's, you know, you cut, you, you experiment with their hair, but it was those dresses that were so cool. And, I just, I just miss it. I miss the whole feelings of it. You know, we had Christmas a while back and just even the whole, everything about Christmas, I feel like it went so fast this year. It goes fast every year. I mean, I know for you, you're not the hugest fan. It's the vibe for me of the whole season. I feel the season went back to normal pretty quickly after Christmas was over and the fact that it didn't roll into a proper winter in Idaho is probably

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

Affecting that in some way. But everything just seems to, maybe it's, maybe it's just the fact that life is moving faster.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

You know, and I don't, I don't know how to keep up and it's just confusing. Like, wait, I don't have more time for things. It just goes so fast. I mean, the months past the weeks pass, it's, you know, I'll do that next week and then it's next week and now you're committed to something. Yeah. And you just think, oh shit. I didn't really, I wanted to assess how I felt. Yeah. When the week came, I didn't really

megan:

mean it,

katiuscia:

but it came so fast. Yeah. So that's the, that's an issue we have. So on a fun, on a fun I, when I was thinking about this and looking for a shirt to wear, I started and I was just going through my closet in all my dressers a little bit ago. you know, over the past few weeks, finding things that I needed to donate and kind of purge out of my house. And so I found some things that I thought, oh my God, I don't know why I still have this. It's an armband with an apple for your iPod, like a nano iPod. Excellent. It's pink. I don't even have the port for this anymore. I used to have a shuffle. This is that metallic pink that you could, the scroll was that fancy, like the wheel. I loved it. The white wheel. It was so great. I wouldn't even know if it turns on, I didn't try. I I might have a charger for it. So I found that. And then this is, I

megan:

know one person who still has a working iPod and like still uses it.

katiuscia:

Really?

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

So whenever I think of a working iPod. I think of that movie with Denzel Washington, the book of Eli, when all he's trying to do is batteries a charge and get a charge for this iPod.

megan:

I was just thinking about that like two days ago.

katiuscia:

Oh my gosh. That's such a great movie. A movie that is a heavy movie book of Eli. Really? It is a little slow, phenomenal movie. I feel like

megan:

halfway through you're like, why am I still watching this? And then by the end you're like, that was fantastic.

katiuscia:

What a twist. Yeah, what a turn. Yep. Really great. And also what a fear of holy shit. Could this be what we're headed to?

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

Where you have to barter for a charge on an old ass iPhone, probably, you know, generation one. Okay. Then I found something else that I can't even consider vintage anymore, considering I just saw it in Costco and I don't know if I told you about it when I saw it. I almost lost my shit. A Panasonic Lu. Oh, my

megan:

camera. Oh my gosh. I had a pink one of those.

katiuscia:

Yes, I did two at a time.

megan:

Which is funny 'cause I bought mine really late. I was still using a disposable camera, like well into oh 8, 0 9. Nice. Because,

katiuscia:

yeah,

megan:

I don't know, there's just something so good about the delayed gratification of getting your photos back. Like even just an hour later, like it's, oh

katiuscia:

where are you gonna take them now though? Or there's still photo. Does Walgreens for example, hey if anyone works at Walgreens and you guys still do one hour photo? Or do you have to send them away or go to now a vintage place that deals with, you know,

megan:

I mean I actually, I have a friend who just recently got, and she's significantly younger than us, but she just got into film camera and she's very into that. So I need to ask her,

katiuscia:

does she have a dark room? Yeah, she's gonna have a dark

megan:

room. Are you getting stuff developed?

katiuscia:

She might. She might have a, she might be doing it herself

megan:

maybe. I dunno, she's

katiuscia:

pretty talented movie, like on the movie Seven when he has the whole room to himself.

megan:

I mean, I took photography in high school, so I'm very versed in the dark room like we did that.

katiuscia:

So I just saw Panasonic Lumix maybe a month ago at Costco, and I thought, oh, that's so funny. What? And this one, I do have the battery for it, and that's easy to just charge in and see, but I don't have a port in my Mac to, yeah, for your card. Put that put for the SD card. How are you gonna see this shit?

megan:

Well, and that's that. I keep seeing things on Instagram about like, were we really uploading 30 pictures to a Facebook album titled like, I'm on a Boat, bitches

katiuscia:

Friday this weekend. This kind. Yeah.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

Mm-hmm. Thinking everyone wants to see, same with vacations, right? Yeah. People post, people still do that though. Like 200 photos to the Italy file. And I just think, I'm just gonna make a reel on my Italy trip and save the photos, the highlights for what I wanna Yeah, just the, just the funnest The most,

megan:

yeah,

katiuscia:

the most of the funnest. Okay. I have this paper that I use occasionally when I send notes to people and it's, um, it's only people who would get it. Because it's, this is crazy vintage. Now you're talking very, very old school. This is original. My mom bought it when I was maybe two. So this is 40, maybe less. This is 40 something year old paper. This is Strawberry shortcake, original strawberry

megan:

shortcake,

katiuscia:

OG strawberry shortcakes. And she says, sending you some happy thoughts. Look at that little envelope. Aw, look at how like the wrapper to this. So this is, when I think of vintage, I think of this shit. Yeah. Legitimately vintage. You've got a plastic band around this envelope, and when you move the plastic band, it is white underneath and yellowed. There's yellow over. But you know what? I have a good, decent stack of these and occasionally. Someone's gonna get it. I'll send them a note with it. Oh.'cause it's still Oh, oh, I'm sorry. It was scented also

megan:

back in the, the day. I was just gonna ask that. I had a strawberry shortcake bookshelf and it was scented. I don't know how they made a, everything in the eighties was scented.

katiuscia:

Dude. I mean, strawberry

megan:

short, I'm it just endocrine disruptors. But fricking, let's bring back scented

katiuscia:

the fricking shit. Look at this little nugget. Her bonnet, her strawberry is bigger than half of her body. She's carrying her little water pitcher. Watering pitcher. Yeah. With the strawberry on it. Her shoes are, I would wear'em and she had the whole deal. I would, if, okay, if I ever dress up for Halloween, I wanna be OG strawberry Shortcake. Because what they have done to her,

megan:

oh, it's

katiuscia:

appalling.

megan:

Horrifying. Because I, when my girls were little, I was like, oh, let's watch Strawberry Shortcake. And I, it took me forever to find original strawberry shortcake.

katiuscia:

You gotta find original

megan:

because the animation, this computer animation is bullshit. It's bad. And she's just

katiuscia:

too modern. Mm-hmm. And too, I'm like, girl. You need to sit down, go pick a fucking strawberry again. Do what you were meant to do. Go make a pie.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

Okay. This is my other favorite and I have wanted to get rid of this and I don't know why I still have it in my house. I think it's hilarious. There was a time in my life, well there was a time in my life I was in college. Uh, but there, I did graduate, but there was a time in my life where I did everything on Microsoft Office and now I have a computer that doesn't even have a CD ROM in it. Right? Okay. But for years and years, up until I got rid of that computer, and that was, well, my HP was on hospice for about 11 years, I would say. Sure. Good. A good salad. So every few months I would dump it. That's my quote, Uhhuh for like, dump all the information, put it all to an external hard drive and just protect it all. I'll go through it later. Like I'll go through the documents, I'll edit and I audit the documents later. So, but that had a CD rom. So now I have all these blank CDs in my house that I was burning, you know, in a bin in my, in my office, in a fabric bin organizational that I was burning CDs on from, uh, iTunes.'cause you could, you could, you could burn a cd, you still can, but who the f has a CD rom in their computers anymore. I think that that's so over, I don't even know if that's a thing. So anyway, I've had this, and like I said, up until two th two years ago this year it'll be, this is two years that I've had that I don't have that HP anymore and therefore two years that I haven't needed the Microsoft Office Home and Student 2007 edition that I was literally using until 2024.

megan:

Oh man.

katiuscia:

Okay. It, I, this was a price club obviously. An item number in ev. Oh shit. It's empty. So this is in, so in my house where I have all these blank CDs, I also have one of those CD books. Remember CD book that you would have your music in that I have all of my computer CDs, but now I'm realizing, okay girl, it's time to get rid of that also, because you don't have anything to put these in. Yeah. So I'll get rid of that. But just the fact that I've had this look, it was Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and OneNote who? Whoever knew what that was. 2007. I'll have you know that I graduated college in 2004.

megan:

Mm-hmm.

katiuscia:

I probably got this because I thought I'm not spending much more than that. Or someone like, you know, I probably split this with someone and we had it, but it's officially time that I can retire the case and the contents of Microsoft Office Home and Student Edition 2007. I will say it almost made it 20 years in my house though.

megan:

That's impressive.

katiuscia:

Okay. And my last favorite trinket that, I don't know how vintage it is, but I would really like to play a poker game with it. After my grandfather passed and we were going through the section in his house where it was in his hallway, where we had Yazi and all the board games, right? Monopoly. My sweet grandpa. I don't know how he procured them 'cause they were never touched because has a deck of cards of playing cards of GW Bush in drag. Okay? There are all of these that is so random. These listen. Okay. Things like every card is something here. Just look through half. Look, every card is something different. The joker is bush in a monkey suit. Oh

megan:

my gosh.

katiuscia:

With like as a monkey with his face on a monkey. I'm sorry. something else is him as an ice skater. Oh, all the jokers are him as a monkey actually.

megan:

Dang buddy. Look at this one.

katiuscia:

These. Oh

megan:

yeah.

katiuscia:

Oh, I'm saying, oh, there are, he's on people magazines in bikinis. Okay. You find

megan:

that's this one that I'm looking on. No, but I'm looking at this one. That's very busty.

katiuscia:

Yes. He is like a lady on the Titanic.

megan:

Oh,

katiuscia:

these are the most phenomenal cards. He's, you know, with a crown as

megan:

a queen. This is disturbing and also hysterical. I

katiuscia:

love it so much.

megan:

Oh,

katiuscia:

is this the Audrey Hepburn

megan:

outfit? The Queen, queen. I, how did I, I got all the pinups.

katiuscia:

Oh, there's so many. No, no, there's, there's many, many.

megan:

Oh my gosh. Oh, oh yeah. Victorian. This is like powdered wig era. Oh my word.

katiuscia:

So

megan:

this and the faces he's making this one. The

katiuscia:

faces are great,

megan:

is him, this is like twenties, thirties era, and he is holding a cat with a. Either pearl or diamond necklace and the cat has a human face. That is Barbara Bush.

katiuscia:

Nice. So you know what I, I must say the thing about these cards, P It's a P. Oh, it's a

megan:

poodle. Yeah.

katiuscia:

So listen, G Dub you are something different in this entire deck of cards. Not one card is the same.

megan:

Oh, that is risque.

katiuscia:

I mean,

megan:

oh my gosh.

katiuscia:

And it's always the face.

megan:

Incredible. The faces are horrifying.

katiuscia:

These faces. So if anyone would like to play a poker game and you would like, oh my to use the GW cards, I think that we need to do it. It's gotta be my next poker game. We to post

megan:

these on Instagram. These are in

katiuscia:

phenomenal. They're phenomenal. They are. Oh my gosh. There's a geisha.

megan:

We'll,

katiuscia:

GW is a geisha.

megan:

We'll just make'em a reel of all of them because everyone is better than the last.

katiuscia:

I know, I know. I

megan:

love it so much. Side boob one is just really upsetting.

katiuscia:

They're. It's, um, it's definitely a phenomenal deck of cards. Perfect. It is a phenomenal deck of cards. Wow. I know.

megan:

What does that say? W deck.com?

katiuscia:

Yeah.

megan:

Wow.

katiuscia:

Mm-hmm. You're welcome world. Thanks. It's a solo

megan:

website. Let's That's,

katiuscia:

I love them so much. I feel like I saw them and nobody claimed them, and also nobody knew where they came from, so I don't know if it was just a gift in the house.

megan:

Oh, the domain is for sale.

katiuscia:

Mm. Okay.

megan:

Although that's a very sketchy phone number to call, so don't, don't call it,

katiuscia:

oh,

megan:

to purchase the domain, call this phone number, which seems,

katiuscia:

you

megan:

know what, very sketchy.

katiuscia:

Yeah. I'd probably say hard pass on that. Go close that phone number together. Close the tab. But yeah, those were, those were the treasures and trinkets. I know there's a disposable camera somewhere in my house, but it was a theme, so I don't know what event I was at, but they had given us these themed cameras.'cause you know how you could buy those, whether it was a wedding theme Oh yeah. Or something, and they had 'em at all the tables.

megan:

Mm-hmm.

katiuscia:

I still think that that would be a fun thing. I do like when people do the photo booths now. Yeah. I think that that's the closest thing that you're gonna get to having that instant gratification. Right. Yeah. But you're just, it also takes you back because it's so vintage.

megan:

Yeah. I used to, in my very first car, I always had a disposable camera in the trunk of the car in case of an accident. Hmm. Then you could document your accident.

katiuscia:

Mm-hmm.

megan:

I did have to use it once, but That's right. And then, I mean, my friend Laura and I, who was, she was my best friend in college, and we would have a disposable camera for every single weekend. We would, I mean, and some of those pic, I have no idea where any of those are. Actually, no, I probably still have some of'em, but, oh my gosh. I mean, all throughout, like turning 21, like my whole 21 ER was on a disposable camera and just the house parties that we went to, and God forbid you lose that camera for an evening and you get it back the next day, a group of 20 something year old boys would find that camera and you get pictures that you never wanted.

katiuscia:

But you know, I think now we'd probably want that. We'd probably want just the ability, if I. Kodak is still a thriving business and they have these in the archives and wanna send them. We will, I would love to distribute them to even my nephews at college and be like, just take photos. Give them to your friends. Go. When you go to a themed frat party, take these, take the pictures and let's see, because

megan:

Well, 'cause those were more, Hmm. Not relevant. Not important, but like more important pictures.'cause nobody was taking pictures of their food because you didn't wanna waste a whole,

katiuscia:

you didn't wanna pay for it.

megan:

A whole photo on a sandwich. Like you were taking whole pictures of people or thi like it was just,

katiuscia:

and it was one photo.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

Which means that was the original selfie. If no one could take the photo, you took it. The difference was you couldn't see it.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

You didn't know how you came out. Yeah. There was no ability to go through and delete all the photos. So your photos were more scarce, I would say.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

So they were more. Meaningful value. Yeah.

megan:

Meaningful. Yeah.

katiuscia:

You were more meaningful because you didn't have 16,000 in your camera roll like some people do.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

Me. Gotta delete 'em. Gotta work on it. We're gonna delete them.

megan:

How many, let's see. Where do you find out how many cameras? How many cameras you have?

katiuscia:

You go to your, you just go to your uh, I have sixteen, five hundred and thirty two in my phone.

megan:

How do you find that?

katiuscia:

You just go to your photo album.

megan:

I'm too old to know how,

katiuscia:

just go to your photo album. It's where the library and it just says the library at the top and it should say, tells

megan:

me what date it is.

katiuscia:

You have to be in the full photo. Like all, just the normal. Nothing split.

megan:

I'm

katiuscia:

nothing

megan:

separated by date. This is high quality content here. That's where I am.

katiuscia:

It should say it underneath. Wait, wait. It does Look at, look at it underneath. Look at it underneath real quick. Underneath library. This

megan:

is the date.

katiuscia:

It says the date.

megan:

Yeah. Mine's just full of this stupid shit Amazon's been trying to target. Add me on.

katiuscia:

Random,

megan:

I don't know. I have a lot.

katiuscia:

Yeah. Tons of photos. Tons of millions of photos. I loved the days that you had to bring it to one hour photo and you had to, and Costco was amazing for that. Costco was the absolute best. And then when they got out of the photo biz a few years ago, I was so bummed because you could order anything through Costco photo.com for photos on mugs, which I still would wanna order Now they just push you to Shutterfly.

megan:

Yeah,

katiuscia:

which is great. I love Shutterfly. Shutterfly does photo books, which if you were a scrapbooking person.

megan:

I tried to be, I failed at it.

katiuscia:

I was for a while. The problem is that was all on type digital type cameras. Yeah. Where I recently, recently, like five years, threw away all the negatives that I had saved because I couldn't see them anymore.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

And I also thought, well, if I have to get these reprinted, okay, so that's from 2006. Okay. But what am I gonna, where am I gonna get it reprinted, number one, two, what am I gonna do with it? But unfortunately, a lot of when you did scrapbooking, you cut up all those photos, so, yeah.

megan:

Well, and I

katiuscia:

felt, felt, felt the real photo

megan:

in order to scrapbook properly, which I don't do anything properly. Um, okay. Well I'm gonna have a vacation to Paris, so I have to go to fucking Michael's and look at all the Paris scrapbook, accoutrements, and then I have to go on my vacation and take these pictures to fit in the scrap. It just did not. I could not make my brain do that. I felt like the scrapbook people knew ahead of time what pictures they were trying to take for the aesthetic of their scrapbook, and I just failed at that miserably.

katiuscia:

I think that that's giving them a lot of credit For someone who did scrapbook a lot, what I would do more is I went to Paris, I'm gonna go to Michael's and I'm gonna buy Paris stickers.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

And French baguette type shit.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

And put them in and then write. There was so much writing in a scrapbook that you had to make sure the writing, you know, it was all of these elements to make it good that then when photo books started coming out, the Shutterfly ones that was game changer and it took away, I would rather pay to have all my photos in a sleek hardcover book than ever have a big album again, because those are, they're heavy, they're huge. They don't fit on a standard bookshelf. It's full of. I don't know, isms and things that you learned inside jokes and stupid shit depending on when you did it in your life and it's just not everyone's gonna get it.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

Like if you get it. I did a tour after I graduated college, a tour of Europe, and I went with a friend of mine and we met other people. So that was really fun because we did so many countries That was fun to scrapbook. That was it though. Everything else that I started to try to do on just a normal life level, it was too complex because then you don't have all these moments that you have when you're on a three week tour

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

Of different countries and you get to see all this cool shit. You don't have that in normal everyday life. So your everyday life isn't as scrap bookable, I would say.

megan:

I was gonna say, my life is not scrap bookable. They don't make scrapbook stickers about things that my life like for my 22nd or 23rd birthday, we had a white trash bash and I had a whole album of that. There were lots of pictures. It was hysterical. Everybody got assigned a new name.

katiuscia:

Perfect.

megan:

That was written in masking tape in Sharpie.

katiuscia:

Nice.

megan:

It was so much fun, the amount of aquanet.'cause you could still buy true Aquanet hairspray. And I teased my hair. Oh my gosh. It was so much fun. And I had these earrings. They were acrylic and one was a six and one was a nine. I had a Harley Davidson belt buckle. Wow. I was wearing a Peterbilt t-shirt that I cut all strategically. Oh my gosh. It was so much fun.

katiuscia:

Do you remember the hot topic letter belts?

megan:

No.

katiuscia:

Uh, they were called something, but it was like that fabric. Okay. So backpack strap. Right. But that was the fabric of the belt. This is called something in terms of

megan:

belt, like the web belt.

katiuscia:

It's kind of. Yeah, I, I just feel like a backpack strap would be

megan:

the

katiuscia:

most Okay.

megan:

Like the adjustable

katiuscia:

this,

megan:

okay.

katiuscia:

This kind of shit.

megan:

Okay.

katiuscia:

And then you had a buckle with the letter of your last name or the letter of your first name, and it would kind of loop through and then you'd lock it. These were things that hot topic sold and I remember when they were all the rage and I went to a Catholic school, so I was in uniform, but then when you had free dress and then all my, all my friends would have it. And I don't, I never understand all of the things that happened when we're, gosh. I mean, I remember when Adidas were the thing and the girls started wearing the high white socks, like the, not the baseball socks, but just high socks.

megan:

Oh, I wore baseball

katiuscia:

No, no, no. But I'm saying again, I've never been cool. No, no, no. But I'm saying people wore baseball socks. But no, I remember when the trend started just being the normal ribbed Costco white. Boy socks.

megan:

I don't feel like that hap maybe I'm blocking it out. I wore baseball socks under my boots, under my cowboy boots because Oh yeah,

katiuscia:

yeah.

megan:

No, I'm saying

katiuscia:

like

megan:

in like Adidas, they didn't cute boots, socks then. Oh, I don't

katiuscia:

remember that. It was weird. So as I, I never really did that too. you did it a little bit with, if you had to. It was just the standard socks

megan:

that makes me think about

katiuscia:

didn't ride or die for it though,

megan:

in the late eighties. Um, I don't remember ever thinking about socks in the nineties. So I'm gonna take it back to the late eighties. And did you ever wear two socks?

katiuscia:

No,

megan:

two pairs of socks at one time.'cause you'd color coordinate 'em. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I never had, um, an, an initial belt buckle. But yeah, I have lots of

katiuscia:

those. Belt belt, sorry. It's a webbing school canvas, initial navy, whatever belt. Yeah. And the only reason that I'm, I know that is'cause it's on Etsy now.

megan:

Yeah. Okay. I had those belts. Okay.

katiuscia:

Sorry.

megan:

Please

katiuscia:

continue. I had,

megan:

um, but you had, you'd wear two pairs of socks. Like you'd have, you'd be wearing your outfit and your outfit would have like pink, hot pink and lime green. And so you'd have socks and you'd wear like the hot pink sock over the lime green sock on one foot, and then on the other foot you'd wear the other way around. Wow. And then somebody was like, well, it's too much to wear two fucking pairs of socks. And so they had these like sock Dickies Wow. That you could wear. I would 1989, buddy. That was my jam.

katiuscia:

Wow. Was

megan:

the,

katiuscia:

I don't even know about that. I just know early two thousands when I was in college and it was all I'd wear. You'd wear a tank top under your T-shirt. Oh yeah. But the tank top would be longer and you'd always have to like make it

megan:

contrast. Well that's because everybody's

katiuscia:

contrast,

megan:

everybody's jeans were a two and a half inch eyes. And your ass would hang out if you didn't wear your tank top. Yes, that's true. I never did the lacy tank tops though. I just wore a regular one. But I know there were

katiuscia:

occasionally I would, Lacey la were the big deal depends on whatever was. I liked college because when you live on campus you can roll up in sweats to things. But I'm trying to think of where, I saw a picture recently of me when I was at USD in really baggy men's sweats. Mm-hmm. Because then I'm like, I can wear men's sweats. This is great, but nobody gives a shit at college. Baggy men's sweats, a tank top and a tight shirt over it.

megan:

Mm-hmm.

katiuscia:

And it was just, that was standard. It wasn't just me, it was everybody that was standard operating procedure. Yeah. Of what you did when you had a class on campus and you know you lived there.

megan:

Yeah, it rained. It was great all the time at my college. So everybody just looked homeless, which is funny'cause there were lots of homeless people there too. But we just looked trashy all the time. You either looked trashy or you were like fucking dressed.

katiuscia:

I, they choose,

megan:

I guess. Guess what I looked like

katiuscia:

I'm gonna go with, I'm gonna go with not the dressed.

megan:

Nope, not at all.

katiuscia:

Yeah, well it's fine. It's, we'll have our thing I will say. I love the past few years. I don't know when I started it. I think, God, I mean, as an adult, maybe within the past 10 years, what I got really into was super high socks and crazy socks. So kneehigh socks, crazy. I have unicorns, I've got donuts. So I got into all these really fun socks and I would wear them to go work out. So I'd have, if I had leggings on, they would go over the leggings. If I had shorts, they would just be on my legs, put them with tennis shoes. So I kind of took what I had seen as a child and not really liked that.'cause I thought, you girls, this doesn't look very feminine. I don't know you. It's, they're, you look

megan:

like Larry Bird

katiuscia:

because they're, they're, they were literally buying boys socks. Yeah. So I just didn't like that. And I thought, I don't know. It needs more flare, more fire and fury and some flare. So it's all of these now that I love. And still today I'll wear them if I have boots on. I typically, if it's cold, I'll wear the high socks. But sometimes if I'm just in jeans and I want tens on, I'll have high, not these today, but high, normal, just, I don't know, I've got Pegasus on one. they're just fun. It's fun to now be able to do that kind of stuff. And I don't even consider that vintage. I just take it. I like it. It makes me happy. It makes me kind of laugh that there's weird shit on my socks. I had avocado socks for a while, which was great.'cause since living here, it's rare that I find perfect avocado that I wanna eat. So if I could wear'em on socks, I will. But yeah, I just, I miss simpler, just everything I was, I wanna rent a movie, but I don't wanna,

megan:

yeah, I wanna go to a Blockbuster.

katiuscia:

I wanna go to a Blockbuster. I don't wanna rent it on on tv. It just doesn't feel the same.

megan:

And I don't even wanna go to Red Box.

katiuscia:

Yeah, red Box.

megan:

That was our last,

katiuscia:

that was it. That was the last hurrah.

megan:

but for a long time, when Red Box first came out, I didn't have a debit card. I was cash only. And 'cause I was parking cars for tips, so I just cashed everything. I paid my rent in cash. Like I paid everything in cash. And so I didn't even have a debit card for a long time. And so I couldn't do Red Box. I'd have to go to like a roommate and be like, will you go to the Red Box with me? But I did have a Netflix And that was when they would mail you DVDs.

katiuscia:

Did Redbox come out after

megan:

Uhhuh?

katiuscia:

Netflix

megan:

started, yeah.

katiuscia:

Okay, okay.

megan:

Netflix.'cause Blockbuster actually was doing a Netflix thing where they would mail you DVDs.

katiuscia:

Did you have Hollywood video where you lived?

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

Okay. Yeah. Black

megan:

History Hollywood. And um, my very first job when I was 14 years old was at Jim Martin video. It was just a little mom and pop video store. It was so much fun. And I had so many movie posters'cause I could get, I could keep'em you get'em where they would take 'em down and Oh my gosh. But I just miss, that was the event. Friday night, your best friend's gonna sleep over at your house. Totally pizza up. And you could go and your parents take you to Blockbuster and you could pick out, you know, and your parents would rent a video and you could rent a video and you just, everybody could just retreat to their own TV rooms. You buy

katiuscia:

candy at Blockbuster also.

megan:

Yeah.'cause

katiuscia:

they had that. Yeah.

megan:

Oh yeah. It was, that was just

katiuscia:

usually like the pizza party night with the movies. And that was so great.

megan:

And if the boy you had a crush on was a delivery driver at the pizza, pizza place, you know, like, let's order delivery. Oh my gosh. It was the best.

katiuscia:

It was so fun.

megan:

We don't, I miss that tremendously. We

katiuscia:

don't have anything.

megan:

I would love to take my kids to rent a movie and just perusing the, I just miss it. And you know what we had here was a store called Hastings. And it was very similar to like Borders books.

katiuscia:

Oh.' megan: cause they had like a you could buy headphones and you could buy all the posters and all kinds of shit, but you could also rent movies from Hastings. Nice.

megan:

And Oh, it was like, it was the freaking best because we, when I Where was

katiuscia:

that? Where was that?

megan:

They were everywhere. There was one on Fairview and Coal. There was one over in Southeast Boise, like on Apple. Right by Oh, so not just one Timber, you're was a franchise. Okay. And, there was a time where my dad lived down the street. I could walk to the Hastings. It's now a sports authority, I believe. Okay. But, and so he would leave me money during the day, in the summer and I could walk to the Hastings and I would rent a movie every day. And I would just go home and watch a movie and then I would wa it was fantastic. It was like one of the best summers of my life.

katiuscia:

Aw. The fact that you remember that we don't have many like that as adults, that we could really look back on with such affection in the nostalgia that just kind of floods us. And I miss that. I miss having those I I mean Blockbuster Hollywood video. Yeah, this, we had a small one also. Just one though. But it just, that whole process and then the be kind rewinds. Oh yeah. That you always were told. You knew. And then I remember even when DVDs came out, DVD to Blu-Ray, which I don't think I ever owned a Blu-ray machine, I didn't know because I thought, I'm just gonna roll into dvd.

megan:

There was something, do what? We deal with something. And the name of it is totally has left my brain. But there was something, one of my friends that I grew up with, her parents were both doctors and they had all the money and so they had all, and they were like gadget people. And there was some kind before DVDs came out and it was like. Um, I don't know, it just left my brain, but it was like a fancy way of playing movies. Okay. And they had this huge tv, this insane TV set up in their house, and that's how, we watched Braveheart on that. Oh. And it was like damn near in the theater. It was such a big tv, but it was this very fancy pre DVD modality. I don't know. It was incredible.

katiuscia:

Nice. Did you have a automatic rewinder in your house for your VHS's?

megan:

We just found my automatic rewinder

katiuscia:

Awesome.

megan:

Under the guest room bed. Like, oh, well I guess we don't need that. I do still have some VHS's though.

katiuscia:

Oh heck yes. I have a V

megan:

We do not have A-A-V-C-R.

katiuscia:

I have a VHS, um, CD combo or DVD combo.

megan:

Nice.

katiuscia:

Mm-hmm. So I'm not prepared to give that up in the world yet because I kept all of my DVDs and there are some VHSs as well.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

So I just think, I don't know, man, the day that I wanna watch something and I don't wanna pay for it. Yeah. I'm just gonna hook this up. It's already near the TV in a cupboard, but I have the ability. Yeah. And I would love to be able to keep the ability, because I have so many DVDs that I don't wanna give up. I'm just not ready that I'm gonna forget what was in my movie library. And yeah, you could probably rent anything. But I also don't wanna write down the titles of everything. And while I have the space in my home, I'm gonna keep it. It's outta sight outta mind. I don't need that storage.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

They're just there, you know, it's like DVDs and there's probably a gun there because I have a gun with candles. It's just what? It's just scattered. There's no,

megan:

yeah. The girls went and took some of their Christmas money and bought some DVDs.

katiuscia:

Oh,

megan:

that was fun.

katiuscia:

Okay.

megan:

They bought Mean girls. They bought the

katiuscia:

original,

megan:

uh, season two of I Love Lucy.

katiuscia:

Wow.

megan:

We bought Lonesome. Do. They were. I bought Lonesome Dove.

katiuscia:

Okay.

megan:

I was like, you guys aren't gonna appreciate this yet. But you know, sometimes you just have to sit down and watch some lonesome dove and it's just not the same on Prime or whatever as it is. Putting the DVD in

katiuscia:

putting

megan:

it on. What else we bought? We bought lots of stuff. It was great.

katiuscia:

Do you remember the movie, the Crow?

megan:

I loved that movie.

katiuscia:

I gotta find a picture because when I was in second or third grade or something, I would have sleepovers with my girlfriends. They would come to my house. It was really fun. I mean, my mom was a single mom. She worked so hard and she'd let me have like these little themed parties. So I had a Halloween party once, and we had a condo that was up the street from my grandpa's house, but you could access it. Basically, the private road that my grandpa lived on at the top of the hill, there was a gate, and that gate led into our backyard. It was all purpose, like it was done on purpose. So. I had my girlfriends over, I don't remember what movie we were watching for Halloween, but my fricking uncle and his best friend showed up and like scared the living shit out of all of us and he was dressed as the guy from the Crow.

megan:

So that movie came out when we were in junior high.

katiuscia:

Yeah.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

Well, what year?

megan:

Let me look.

katiuscia:

I might have been 10 or 11 then.

megan:

I was obsessed with that movie. I had a door poster of Brandon Lee on the back of my bedroom door, like full, it was like life size. And then there was also like a full length mirror right behind that. And so it looked like there was someone standing behind the door. It scared the shit outta my mom all the time. Yeah, I, it was hysterical.

katiuscia:

I would imagine it scared us. He came

megan:

1994.

katiuscia:

Yeah, I was, so yeah, I was 10. I mean I was, well I was 11 in 94, depending on when it came out. I turned 11 at the end of 94, so

megan:

yeah,

katiuscia:

that's fifth grade. Fifth,

megan:

okay.

katiuscia:

Right. Fourth, fifth grade.

megan:

Well, I was 12.

katiuscia:

Okay. Now you're a year older.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

Um, anyways, that was crazy. We have pictures. He's, he's fully in character. My uncle did this shit all the time and I just, my face, I had girls that were terrified and just, I just came across the photo though, and whenever I come across these things I'll send them to him because it's so funny to see. And now he's a dad and he has three basically grown ass adult boys. And it's just so funny how I had that privilege of growing up with him as a teenager. Him and my aunt as teenagers and him and his best friend would just, you know, throw me, they'd wait for me down the hallway and like throw me back and forth and just, you know, beat me up.

megan:

Oh yeah.

katiuscia:

So it was just a beautiful thing. And I like when I see those photos 'cause they just make me happy.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

But there was the crow and I remember my girlfriends were freaking out and then, you know, you're just like, now that parents aren't gonna want their kids to Yeah. Come over anymore. Now I think. It's different for the reasons that parents don't want their kids hanging out with other kids. And it has a lot to do with what they're hearing from more adults. But that I'm like, they're gonna have nightmares all night now. I'm not even gonna have any friends sober anymore.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

But that was just something I always

megan:

remember. Remember well, how embarrassing to have a nightmare to sleep over.

katiuscia:

Oh,

megan:

that would've been really embarrassing,

katiuscia:

for girls. Do you think it would've been embarrassing for us? Probably. I mean, I think for boys it probably would've been more embarrassing. Not that I think that they would admit it.

megan:

Yeah. I don't think I would've ever told anybody.

katiuscia:

I would've just never wanted to go back.

megan:

I just would've been up in their house all night, like in the dark, laying there.

katiuscia:

I feel like there were probably situations where I never wanted to go back to someone's house. Right.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

I think I did have a friend growing up where it was the parents were a little too out of control with drinking. Oh. So I'm like, oh, I don't, I don't think I want that anymore because. You tell your parents then? Yeah. Like how, how the day was, and you don't really quite understand if, if you're not around it, you don't understand it. Yeah. You know, I never understood it because I wasn't around it, so it was just didn't feel like right to me. Um, but yeah, I

megan:

did miss

katiuscia:

those

megan:

days. I had, in elementary school, I had a pretty solid, like elementary school and junior high, a solid group of girls that did sleepovers. So we didn't have any weird, weird shenanigans go down. But I, there were a couple mean girls sleepovers that I went to where you cannot be the first one to fall asleep, but you can also not be the last one awake.

katiuscia:

Oh.' megan: cause they'll The hand and the water, the, it's just, oh,

megan:

it was gross behavior. Not like gross, like, you know.

katiuscia:

No, that's

megan:

like camp. Some of the horror stories you hear. Yeah. Camp, shit camp. We also went, all of these girls and I went to a summer camp where, um, the camp lore involved an ex murderer named Bruce. And the horror stories that we would tell each other around the fire. My kids could never,

katiuscia:

oh,

megan:

I mean, it was really graphic.

katiuscia:

Wow.

megan:

Oh yeah. He was called Bruce, the ax murderer. Like he was allegedly like the caretaker of this camp at some point. And it was very involved. We all knew the story. It's crazy to this day, if I meet somebody named Bruce, like, I'm sorry, but we, we can't be friends.

katiuscia:

That's crazy. So, and so my sleepover experience, I will chime in and say I did not have any shenanigans going on. I also went to a small private Catholic school from, first through eighth grade. Those were my friends forever. And then high school was different. We went to sixth grade camp. I had an Australian camp counselor Oh. At sixth grade camp who was so fun. And I still to this day, remember some of those sing along chants that he would do. So it's just every now and then, if I think of the word laundry or something, this guy, or. There was a like amoeba, if I ever heard, there's certain words. So laundry, he was, he was doing these name chants for all of the other camp counselors. So there was an Andre and he would be like, Andre likes to do my laundry. Oh, so funny. I would always think of all these things now to this day, so many years after I was in sixth grade. So if you were that counselor, people, remember, if you are those counselors that have fun with those kids and make them remember cool shit, or scary stuff like Bruce, the Acts murderer.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

That she'd carried into her adulthood and

megan:

like our counselors would go around the cabins at night with like an ax. Like they, one of them would hold an ax and the other one would shine a flashlight. So it was like a silhouette of like a, somebody holding an ax outside and they'd knock on the window like, what? What? And that's like the least traumatic thing about my childhood.

katiuscia:

Holy smokes. Like these are the camp experiences though that I will say kids need and not like the sisterhood of the Traveling Pants experience where that was just a little too adultified.

megan:

I've never seen that.

katiuscia:

What? Sisterhood Of the Traveling Pants. I mean we

megan:

could talk about the movies. I've never seen, I've never seen Jurassic Park. I've never seen Titanic.

katiuscia:

Did you ever read The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants books? No. Those were good books. Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants. The first movie is when Blake Lively basically came out in a movie. I think that might've been her first big thing.

megan:

Okay.

katiuscia:

She's so totally different now for a slew of reasons. But it's, it is amazing. I think watching Hollywood, the young when not, I don't even wanna say kid 'cause she wasn't a kid, but when teens get into it, uh, child stars are very different. I think they have a very different. Upbringing into that world, but when they're teens and you even see how they evolve, I think Sisterhood gave her the role to Gossip Girl. And then all these,

megan:

I never

katiuscia:

saw Gossip Girls. Maybe either. You never saw a Gossip Girl.

megan:

Mm-hmm.

katiuscia:

I've seen

megan:

Gilmore Girls, like there's a lot, there's a whole section of pop culture that I was not

katiuscia:

Gilmore Girls. Sometimes all it's on Netflix still. So sometimes I never watched it religiously, even though I had a single mom my whole life. And that was pretty much my upbringing. But it's more order. I feel like that's not very, it's more of a friendship thing on that show, but I feel like Gilmore Girls is just something that sometimes I'll leave it on for my dogs. It's either that or Bluey, you know. But I leave, if I'm doing something, I'll just leave them a background show that will keep playing. But yeah, I never, um, I did like Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants. It was a good movie, but it was just, it was cute. It was magical pants, not really magical. They just magically fit everyone the same. Yeah. And it was a friend group and it was cute.

megan:

Which we know. I mean, there's not, I don't have two pairs of pants that fit me. Yeah. Yeah. Where

katiuscia:

are those pants? Like I would like those pants. It upsets me because it's such a good theory. Yeah. Like I would love it if I, if me and you could like swap pants, but we can't.

megan:

No.

katiuscia:

Because we don't even have Yeah. Two of our own that fit us the same.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

Even though they're the same pan.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

It's just crazy. I just, I would like the days where I could go rent a movie. I think that'd be fun.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

I'd like the days where I could go to RiteAid, or it used to be Thrifty Ice Cream and go get like a scoop of Chocolate Malted Crunch Or Mint Chip or Rocky Rot Coconut Pineapple. And I know I can buy those in the half gallons, but if you know me, you know that I barely eat like that much ice cream at all. So it would have to be in a scoop.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

But not like a cold stone scoop.

megan:

I don't like cold stone. You don't like Cold Stone? Not really.

katiuscia:

I haven't been to Cold Stone in a long time.

megan:

To be fair, I don't love ice cream. Like if we're going to ice cream, I'm getting some ice cream, but it's not of the desserts. That's not my favorite thing. So Cold Stone was like too much like calm down. I don't, no, I don't need that

katiuscia:

I don't even know where I would want ice cream from if I, but I don't eat an ice cream.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

I can buy a pint of ice cream and it can be in my freezer forever because I'll take a bite of it at a time. I'm that person, but I'm like, maybe I'll just have a little bite today. But I don't really want it'cause it's such a dairy bomb.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

And because I'm not a child anymore and my body can't take that, my body can't take a dairy bomb. I've had to like lay off a lot of shit lately. The cheese. And I love the cheese.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

And I'm like, is this doing anything for me? Productive. Yeah. Not destructive. What's it adding? Is it adding value to my life or is it taking away,

megan:

does it spark joy?

katiuscia:

I mean, sometimes depends I guess on the cheese. Yeah. Cold Stone was, it was legendary for what it was. Yeah. When it came out.

megan:

Yeah,

katiuscia:

because it's, you could mix in whatever you want. Heck yes, I'm down, but I will eat gelato in Italy. But once, yeah. I have a one time rule in Italy. I eat it once.'cause that's a very different level of ice cream. Oh yeah. Gelato.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

And I will have it once and that will be it. It will satisfy that.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

Check. And then I'm done. And then I'm just back to pastries.'cause I like the pastries in Italy. That's what I want.

megan:

Oh, I love pastries.

katiuscia:

All the pastries. All of them. Every single one and every single day. That's it.

megan:

Yeah. I, love pastries.

katiuscia:

Did you watch, who's the boss?

megan:

I loved Who's the

katiuscia:

boss?

megan:

Mm-hmm. Yep. Who's the boss. Was great.

katiuscia:

There was, there was a lot of all around that, I think. Who's the boss came out before full house. It was like the OA little bit of the og.

megan:

I

katiuscia:

didn't, with life goes on.

megan:

Yeah. I didn't get too much into the TGIF because I wasn't really allowed to watch that much tv. So I would have to like find a friend to sleep over house on Friday night so that I could watch and she'd be like, well, what do you wanna do? And I'd be like, I wanna watch tv.

katiuscia:

What else was TG? What else was on TGAF? Was

megan:

it Family Matters? Um, family Matters. Step by step.

katiuscia:

Step by step and full house.

megan:

Yeah. Which I liked. Family matters a lot more than full house. I was never really like into full house as much. I liked night court.

katiuscia:

Night court.

megan:

I was, I loved night court. We all know I loved Cheers.

katiuscia:

Yeah. You love Cheers. Yeah.

megan:

Which is funny 'cause I did not really like Frazier and Frazier came out of Cheers.

katiuscia:

Mm.

megan:

But I was not, and my parents liked Frazier.

katiuscia:

Interesting.

megan:

And then, you know, must see TV on Thursday nights, came out in the nineties with friends and er and Seinfeld.

katiuscia:

Yeah. Seinfeld was the one I liked the most outta that I never got into. I forgot about er. Mm-hmm. That was a Clooney thing.

megan:

Yeah. I didn't really like, I mean, we watched it, but I wasn't like, I didn't watch all of it.

katiuscia:

Sure.

megan:

Um, we all know I love friends. I like Seinfeld. Seinfeld's great. Uh, until I met Jerry Seinfeld and that was not a great experience.

katiuscia:

I wouldn't think that Jerry Seinfeld's a nice, like the, oh, I'm sorry. He's probably a, a good guy. I just wouldn't, I wouldn't expect him to be overly gracious to people.

megan:

Yeah. So

katiuscia:

maybe it's'cause he was so famous.

megan:

So I had a thing against him for years after that I was bitter.

katiuscia:

Oh, bitter beaver.

megan:

Yeah. For years. But the more I'm thinking about it now, so what happened was I was working at the hotel and I was a bellhop. And I got called to, and he was performing here in Boise. So I got called to bell him down from his room. Okay, so first, with a celebrity like that, you have to go to the tour manager's room and then they will take you, you know, you grab their luggage and then you go to the celebrity's room and they are giving you the rules on the way there. And I've met lots of celebrities through this job, and most of 'em are, some are pretty chill and some are dicks. And this tour manager, the whole way up, it's like six floors on the elevator. And he's like, don't look him in the eye, don't speak to him unless he speaks to you. If he asks you a question, answer it as fast and succinctly as possible, but do not elaborate. Do not ask him any questions. Do not. And so by the time we get to his room, I'm a wreck. I'm already awkward enough like that. Just,

katiuscia:

yeah,

megan:

10 xd my social awkwardness. And so he's like, Hey, how's it going? And I was just like, ha it good. Like I just crashed it crashed my brain because it was so, there were so many rules and I didn't wanna fuck it up 'cause I'm just desperate for a $20 tip. Like please just give me $20.'cause that's

katiuscia:

Sure.

megan:

Generally with celebrities, they're gonna give you a 20 to build their luggage. And I mean, this is a long time ago, you know, whereas most people are giving you three to $5. And so we get down to the limo and they gave me $5 and I was like, I just went through all that personal turmoil for five fucking dollars. I was pissed. But then now the more I think about it, I'm like, that might've just been that tour manager.

katiuscia:

Maybe

megan:

the tour manager was an asshole.'cause really, Jerry Seinfeld was perfectly polite and courteous to me. But I was spiraling in my head because I didn't wanna fuck it up. So now I think it was that tour manager that was actually the dick.

katiuscia:

Oh. So yeah. Okay. I still wouldn't think that comedians back then, now they're different. Now it's a different world.

megan:

Mm-hmm.

katiuscia:

But I wouldn't think that Seinfeld, Jerry Seinfeld as he was so big.

megan:

Right.

katiuscia:

As he was blowing up in that timeframe too. And as the world was probably navigating, how do we work with comedians now? I mean, it's a celebrity, but it's not an actor. These are still very much themselves. They're make fun of everything.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

How does, how do we interact with this? I wouldn't think that maybe on first meetings, first impressions, they would be overly gracious. Because they, themselves, a comedian is not always the most confident. They, they joke about this shit. Right. There's so they could have had. The weird things there, but maybe it was just the tour manager. Maybe we'll just say it was the tour manager and Jerry Seinfeld. We'd still love to meet you. I loved Seinfeld. I still love se Yeah. I never got really into friends. I just, I needed the more the different humor.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

And Kramer.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

And George and it was just, and Elaine and her dancing. And then it's just fun to see as we've all grown up, how they've totally, I don't even wanna say blossomed 'cause that sounds so fucking lame when you're talking about, but you know, you'd say it about a child, like, wow, look how you've blossomed into,

megan:

yeah.

katiuscia:

You started on Seinfeld and you ran, you did Veep, and now she's another like. You watch all these people and you think, gosh, I remember you when you did this and it was so cool.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

And just the fact that you still got it and you still love the craft and you're not at which great, great movie The Craft, by the way.

megan:

Oh, that was such a good movie.

katiuscia:

Yeah. Oh man. Anyway, whoop, uh, light as a feather, stiff as a board, but I just love that they're able to still kind of, they've got it where it, where you can tell that it's not super forced and kudos to the majority of them who shut the F up

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

When it comes to their political beliefs because nobody gives a shit about Yeah. A celebrity's political opinion as we've established. So yeah, I just, all those times, what Good days, good days. Did you get into Grey's Anatomy?

megan:

Nope.

katiuscia:

I did for a minute.

megan:

Never seen one episode.

katiuscia:

Wow. I did for a minute. Same with Lost. I was in Lost. I was in Lost for a while and then I, it was just the same shit.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

So I got out of Lost and I'm very happy I did, because when people told me how it actually ended, I was like, okay. Makes sense.

megan:

Yeah. I had a roommate during the Lost era who was a bartender, and so when he would wake up in the day, he would just sit around and watch TV until it was time to go to work. And he was very into lost. And I would come home and I'd sit on the couch with him and I'd be like, what? What is this? Who is this? What is the, what is going on? Yeah. And he would try to explain it to me and I was like, I'm out. I can't, I cannot do this.

katiuscia:

Yeah. Can't get there. There gotta be out One. One thing I am happy about growing up is that we did get Game of Thrones. So as vintage as I wanna be, and as much as I wanna go in to rent a movie and do all the cool shit, I'm still grateful for Game Game of Thrones. But I'm trying to think if I had one, one favorite thing. Oh, I think one thing I'll always remember from going to the movies growing up was using a red vine as a straw for my soda.

megan:

Oh yeah.

katiuscia:

And that's how you knew you were.

megan:

Yep.

katiuscia:

You were cool.

megan:

So when we went and saw Twister in the theater, me and a bunch of girlfriends, my friend Gretchen, during one of the only quiet parts of that movie, dropped an entire movie sized box of hot tamales all over the floor. And they ran down the floor like a rain stick, just tick, think all the way down the floor. She was horrified.

katiuscia:

Oh geez.

megan:

And I still, that is a vivid memory.

katiuscia:

Nice. So I would love to hear other people's things that you missed the most from growing up, whether it was your early childhood or your adolescence high school years.

megan:

What movie would you rent at Blockbuster right now, today?

katiuscia:

Yeah. What would you order on your pizza from Domino's or Pizza Hut? Because that's

megan:

where it was. We had a round, round table. Round table was the best. There was one round table pizza here for a hot minute.

katiuscia:

What would be your movie and your candy choice and your toppings on your pizza?

megan:

Yeah,

katiuscia:

that's what I wanna know.'cause there'd be

megan:

your, your nineties Friday night.

katiuscia:

Yeah. And is it a VHS or were you more from an affluent family and you had a DVD player before anyone else? We wanna know these things.

megan:

Yep.

katiuscia:

Yeah. So that's it. Think on it and let us know. Write us and or add us on any of the things.

megan:

Yeah.

katiuscia:

Yeah. And I guess have a good day to everyone, except if you still have a live life. Live yeah. Okay. Well, have a good day. To everyone. Except if in 2026 you still have a live laugh, love sign in your house.

megan:

Oh yeah. That's not the kind of vintage we want.

katiuscia:

That's, we don't want that vintage. That's farmhouse and live. Laugh, love out of it.

megan:

Bye