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#30: Rationalizing Time — Calendar Conspiracies Explained

• Katiuscia + Megan • Episode 30

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Who decided how time works — and why do so many people question it?

Today, we unpack calendar conspiracies, alternative timekeeping theories, and the history behind how modern calendars were created and standardized.

We explore why the calendar feels arbitrary, where conspiracy theories around time manipulation come from, and how religion, power, history, and control all intersect with the way we measure days, months, and years. From missing time theories to why questioning systems feels uncomfortable, this conversation lives at the crossroads of curiosity, skepticism, and cultural storytelling.

Not a doomsday spiral — just a thoughtful, slightly unhinged (in a fun way) discussion about why humans love questioning the systems we’re told are fixed.

If you’ve ever looked at the calendar and thought, “Who decided this?” — welcome.

00:00  Why We’re Questioning Time at All
02:55  What Are Calendar Conspiracies?
06:30  Who Created the Modern Calendar
10:48  Religion, Power, and Timekeeping
15:40  Missing Time and Calendar Theories
20:05  Why Humans Distrust Fixed Systems
24:30  Conspiracy Thinking vs Curiosity
29:10  How Time Shapes Culture and Control
33:45  Why These Theories Keep Resurfacing
38:20  What Questioning Time Reveals About Us
42:10  Final Thoughts: Curiosity Over Certainty

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Don't even bother.

Megan:

Okay. Did, did you ever wonder why we have to start the new year in the middle of. Season first of all, but also like the middle of the most fucking depressing season of the year.

Katiuscia:

No, but it is really depressing

Megan:

and like it doesn't make any sense because the spring is when new life blooms, so why the hell wouldn't that be the new year?

Katiuscia:

Theoretically,

Megan:

like why wouldn't you start the new year on a new season? Right,

Katiuscia:

right.

Megan:

Turns out they used to, so the new year used to be around March 25th ish, that Vernal Equinox, which is the beginning of spring.

Katiuscia:

Okay.

Megan:

So like ancient, ancient people who were very in tune with the stars, the moon, the earth in general. The world general.

Katiuscia:

Like scientists or like witches?

Megan:

No, I'm not going witchy. Woo woo shit. Okay. I'm talking about like just ancient people. There's whole structures.

Katiuscia:

Sure.

Megan:

Ancient structures that were built so that this one skylight we'll say, lined up perfectly with some celestial body on this exact significant day. Like they were so in tune with the world around 'em. They knew when to plant. You know when your corn gets this high, you plant your beans. They don't need a calendar. They didn't need any of that. They were all super in tune with that. And I swear that's how you know when you watch shows like Game of Thrones and these women just know that they're pregnant.

Katiuscia:

Yes.

Megan:

And it's like, what the hell? How do you just know that? I mean, obviously we know like, but they seemed to have just known. I know that's a TV show. It's probably because they were so in tune with the lunar cycle, which also happens to correlate very closely to most women's cycles. Like they just, the lunar calendar seemed to make a lot of sense.

Katiuscia:

Well, and if, if Game of Thrones is, I get it. It's also, let's just call it biblical 'cause they, they also knew that back then too. Yeah. You know, in, in Bible times when you're reading the Bible, they just. No.

Megan:

Yeah,

Katiuscia:

so-and-so is like, and she's, and now with child. She's with child.

Megan:

Yeah.

Katiuscia:

So Game of Thrones took that probably from the Bible. I would just like to point that out.

Megan:

Yeah. So I went down a rabbit hole about the calendar.

Katiuscia:

Perfect.

Megan:

But I'm gonna pause that and go on a little bird walk for a second, because it's probably no secret that I And you. You and I are very conspiracy minded, and when you are a tinfoil hat wearer, you can find the conspiracy in anything. So I'm gonna say, even if you're a normie, and if you've never heard that term, then you're a normie. If you think we landed on the moon, if you think that those are just contraras in the sky, you're a normie. And that's no judgment. I'm just telling you. Then this'll just be a fun history lesson. Perfect. If you wanna find the conspiracy, you find it. Okay. how did we go for New Year? The new year being the vernal equinox to January 1st.

Katiuscia:

I had no say

Megan:

Julius Caesar.

Katiuscia:

Okay.

Megan:

So prior to Caesar. Prior to the Roman Empire, ancient people, like I just said, mostly used astronomy and lunar cycles to help keep track of time. they have Sumerian calendars that date back, two th. 3000 bc each Sumerian month consisted of 29 or 30 days according to the lunar cycle. The lunar cycle is about 11 days off from the solar calendar. So the Mayans had the most accurate calendar, because they used lunar and solar. Now. For my conspiracy friends, there is a thought going around the internet that says that the world really did end on December 21st, 2012. Like the Mayan calendar allegedly said that it would. And we're, we've all just been living in a simulation this whole time.

Katiuscia:

What? Like lost everyone? Like lost.

Megan:

Anyway, that's not what we're talking about today. So. The Roman Empire came along and decided that they needed to make their own calendar. However, it was only, this is my favorite part of this. The original Roman calendar was only 10 months, so 304 days, meaning that the other 61 days were just dead space. Like they still existed, but they weren't on any kind. It was just like no man's land.

Katiuscia:

Mm. Like free day, I guess. Like free dress day.

Megan:

Yeah.

Katiuscia:

Was everyone on vacation during those days? Right. You know, was it just kind of the prescribed time of vacation?'cause it doesn't count, they're just

Megan:

Yeah.

Katiuscia:

Free days.

Megan:

It's just nothing.

Katiuscia:

Nothing days.

Megan:

Yeah.

Katiuscia:

Okay.

Megan:

So around 700 bc the Roman emperor that I can't pronounce, added January and February to the end of the year.

Katiuscia:

Okay.

Megan:

And so February was at the end of the year, which is why it only had 28 days. Because fuck February, I guess like it was just an afterthought. And February, I wrote this down that it was considered unlucky, an unlucky time, and I don't remember why. So sorry. Unlike Katusha, I do not cite my sources. We're just full of chaos here. So by first century BC, the Roman calendar was a hot mess and. Starting to, the confusion per usual was political fuckery.

Katiuscia:

of course.

Megan:

The Pontifex Maximus and the College of Pontiffs. But this is first century bc, so not Ponts like the Pope yet. We'll get to the Pope had the authority to alter the calendar. They sometimes did. So to reduce or extend the term of a particular magistrate or other public official

Katiuscia:

Political fuckery.

Megan:

Yeah. So Julius Caesar initiated a reform that resulted in the establishment of the Julian Calendar. So the months, everybody, I feel like we've all heard that. Like Julius and Augustus. Yes. July and August. Well, those were originally Quintiles and sex Tillis, meaning fifth and six months.

Katiuscia:

Okay,

Megan:

so Whoopty do, and then of course, September through December. Roman numerals, 7, 8, 9, and 10 because they were originally like July through December was originally 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. But then they added January and February, so it got all messed up. Okay. Back to my copious notes. I lost my place. So Julius Caesar made January the start of the new year.

Katiuscia:

Okay.

Megan:

Um, not clear why. This is just like with the Titanic, every which way you turn, you can find different answers for different ques. Like for the same question. It's bonkers, it's historical. We're talking thousands of years ago. Nobody really knows. But these are like the generally accepted facts that I have found. So by 1582, the Julian calendar was cumulatively off time because. The earth rotates around the sun. Every 365.2422 days. Okay, so then at this point they're off by like 15 days, and that's a problem when you want Easter. The most important holiday of the Catholic church to fall on this one day. And I meant to look it up. It's in my brain somewhere of how they, to this day calculate when Easter is, and it has to do with the moon, but I don't remember enough to like regurgitate it back. So Pope Gregory the 13th we're in 1582, now came up with the Gregorian calendar. I would love to go back in time to see if he was like, yo, my name is Pope Gregory and we're gonna call it the Gregorian calendar. Or if that's just what it became known as.'cause I could see it going either way. So he made January one, the official start of the new year and declared it for all Catholic countries. So Spain, Italy, France, all went, yep. Okay. Copy that. Britain the Americas did not follow suit until much later, like 17 hundreds. So by, well, I saw something that said in 1582 in order to SR get the Gregorian calendar back on track, it went from October 4th, 1582, and then the very next day was October 15th, 1582. Oh, And then by 1752. When England and American colonies decided to get on board with this new calendar, the discrepancy between a solar year and the Julian Calendar had grown by even more so that the calendar used in England and its colonies was 11 days out of sync. So they did the same thing.

Katiuscia:

Okay,

Megan:

so England and America just dropped 11 days for September of 1752. It's also unclear if the year of 1750 ever even happened in America. Oh, and this is according to like the Connecticut State Library. So China adopted the Gregorian calendar in 1912, but continues to obviously use its lunar calendar for like its zodiac things.

Katiuscia:

Okay.

Megan:

Religious purposes. A lot of countries still use their own lunar calendars for religious purposes. Russia switched to the Gregorian calendar in 1918 and Greece in 1923. That kind of blew my mind.

Katiuscia:

So they were all just on scattered time, uhhuh frames and Wow. Yeah. In the in between.

Megan:

Yeah. the Gregorian calendar really only differs from the Julian year in like its implementation of leap days, and that is so convoluted. Barf. We're not going there. So before the Gregorian reform, many civilizations followed their own lunar based calendars with 13 months of 28 days each totaling 364 days with one day out of time or a year day, or there were lots of names for it, they usually used that day as a time for reflection and renewal.

Katiuscia:

Okay.

Megan:

This system obviously wasn't just mathematical, it was. It followed natural patterns. And again, I'm not trying to get woowoo, it's just the world that they knew and it made sense to them.

Katiuscia:

And wait, which calendar was this? The 13 month

Megan:

this? Yeah, the 13 month calendar. It's uniform, it's predictable.

Katiuscia:

Everything's 28 days.

Megan:

Everything's 28 days. The month starts on the first on a Sunday, and you know, it's just cut and dried. It's four weeks. Boom. Done.

Katiuscia:

Okay.

Megan:

Easy peasy. Uh, fun fact, Ethiopia still operates on a 13 month system.

Katiuscia:

What's their last month called?

Megan:

Oh, I didn't even look.

Katiuscia:

I wonder if it's just a free month and like, this is the month of the wild and free. I mean, what are you gonna call it?

Megan:

Right?

Katiuscia:

it up.

Megan:

So the word month itself is related to the moon, and it originally measured how long it took for the moon to complete a cycle around the earth. So they come from the same route. Anyway, so back in the day when the new year, there was not like New Year's Day, but when the new year was celebrated at the end of March, typically the last week of March. They had mostly in France, a festival, a week long festival called The Feast of Fools. Hey everyone, if you've seen Hunchback of Notre Dame, the you would know that they have the Feast of Fools in

Katiuscia:

Paris.

Megan:

Okay. And it sounds like Mardi Gras plus, you know, Renaissance Fair, like a week of just drunken nonsense.

Katiuscia:

Yes.

Megan:

And so once they implemented the Gregorian calendar in, like I said, mostly France, it's not like they had CNN. Breaking news to tell'em that that wasn't the new year anymore. And so they started becoming known as the April Fools. Oh, the people who were still celebrating the New year in the spring.

Katiuscia:

Okay.

Megan:

Because the Feast of Fools rolled into April. So that's all the history things. Now is this just. Does it just make good and logical sense that the world have a uniform way to keep track of time? Or was it a way to give a centralized institution more control? I'm gonna say I'm Catholic. You're Catholic. We both love and appreciate our faith, but we both have no. Illusions as to the perfectness of the humans running the church.

Katiuscia:

Sure.

Megan:

And back in the day, I mean, there's been a lot of corrupt nonsense that has happened, so I can definitely question and criticize that, of course, with leaving my faith intact. So the Catholic church definitely benefited from dictating time itself, so moving away from natural rhythms and timekeeping. Helps keep people def dependent on artificial schedules and disconnected from their own connection to nature and the wisdom that comes with that. By reforming the calendar, the church demonstrated its scientific capability and authority cementing its role in setting the standard for measuring time, which was adopted by most nations. I think it's like 90% of countries in the world and. Part of the reason that I have found that they did that, like I said, is to keep Easter in the springtime, and a lot of prominent Catholic apologists today will tell you that no, the Catholic church was not taking Pagan customs and adopting them in to their customs to try to convert the pagans. They make a good case for that. But I have a really hard time believing that really and truly because the way I grew up and the things that I studied growing up, I know about the things that correlate with Halloween and the things that correlate with Easter, and there's just too much crossover for me to really, truly believe that that wasn't happening. Because really it's a brilliant marketing strategy. Here's these pagans. We want them to be Catholics at that time, Christians,'cause that's all there was. So we're gonna take their things and go, yo, we have that too, but better. So this was a way to control those pagans a little more. Prove their authority. Why don't you come over here? We know we literally control time. You may as well get on our team. that's just my thought. So then I read. Some speculation that the current calendar benefits banks and governments because the uneven months make it more difficult for regular people like me and you to keep track of bills, interest, taxes, et cetera. How much thought have you put into the length of the quarters of the year, like the fiscal quarters? Probably not a lot. Right? I have put zero thought into it until yesterday. Quarter one is 90 days. Okay. January, February, March 31, 28. 31, 90 days, quarter 2 91. Days 30, 31. 30 quarter, 3 92 days, quarter 4 92 days. Like so how are you? How are we calculating the interest if everything's happening on the first of the month, the 15th of the month, the 30th of the month? How do we, what tax? Like let's keep it confusing. That we tell you how much you have to pay or like now you have to guess how much taxes you owe, and if you get it wrong, you go to jail.

Katiuscia:

Crazy.

Megan:

So a guy named Moses Cosworth in 1902 proposed a solution that we go back to the 13 months of 28 days with the year day. That's not part of any month. So like Washington, DC is not a state. The year day is not a month. There's a leap day added every four years. Perfect quarters of exactly 91 days, 13 weeks. a lot of people, international businesses, league of Nations, supported it seriously considered at adapting it, adopting it. Hello. lots of scientists. George Eastman, the Kodak founder, was totally on board with it. It failed because religious leaders said, absolutely not. It disrupts the Sabbath cycle. Governments resisted because of tax overhaul. Banks totally resisted it because of interest calculation losses, and so they all said, no, it's culture, cultural inertia. We're too big to change now. Nothing we can do about it now. So whether you, whether you see the nefarious in it or not, it's really hard to argue that the adaptation of the Gregorian son of a bitch, the adoption, these are my own notes. The adoption of the Gregorian calendar has disconnected us all from like nature, our own logic, our own wisdom. And that's part of why I've always said New Year's resolutions are just bullshit because this is the coldest, darkest grossest time of the year. I wanna just hibernate in my house. I don't want to get up and do things But the second that Vernal Equinox hits, I'm like, hell yeah, let's clean the house, buddy. So there's a lot to that. And I spent this whole morning thinking a lot about my Normie friends and. Conspiracies and like what that actually means. And I don't think, I don't know that Pope Gregory the 13th was like, let's just f all these peasants and change the calendar. But I do think that there is a group of people who run the world. I don't know who they are, so I just, I'm gonna call 'em, they, and they have power. It's not about money. The people who are after the money are like mid-level managers. There's a whole other class of people above them that just want the power. And like I've said, absolute power corrupts absolutely. And I think that money does weird things to people. And so if these controlling people now have access to corrupt these mid, mid-level managers with money, then they can get a lot of people on board to do some really shady shit. And my very innocuous non conspiracy example of that is grocery store products, any products, but like you think about going to the grocery store and this bag of chips has less and less and less chips in it over time. And then. They finally make the packaging a little bit smaller to accommodate those less and less chips, right? So they've lost like 30% of the chips. And then, oh look, the price went up by 15% because inflation. And then when people are like, what the hell, I used to get way more chips than this. Then they come out and go, look, we've added 25% more chips. And then they raise the price and over and over and over again. That's. I brought that up when I was like 19, and somebody in my life was like, no, that's bullshit. They're not doing that. And then it was actually in a marketing and business class that I took in college, like, yes, they 100% do that. That is so well known now. But in order for that to work, everybody has to be on board, all of the producers. And so that's happening. So this calendar manipulation might not have started off as like a super nefarious thing, but it. It benefited some people in financial ways and so it's hard to not, it's hard for me to not see the conspiracy in it. And then the really fun part about it, if you want to go really crazy conspiracies, which I don't know how I feel about this at all, but when you're looking up calendar conspiracies, have you ever heard of the phantom time theory?

Katiuscia:

No.

Megan:

This is wild. So. German amateur historian Herbert. I don't think that's how you pronounce that, but I'm gonna call him. Herbert Iig wrote a book in 1996 called The Invented Middle Ages, the Greatest Time Falsification in History, which suggests that the years six 14 to nine 11, a sizable chunk of the Middle Ages never happened.

Katiuscia:

So it was just like stories.

Megan:

So he says that Holy Roman Emperor Otto ii, Pope Sylvester ii, and possibly Roman Emperor Constantine the seventh conspired to make up 297 years of history, including the reign of Charlemagne, the Viking raids on Europe and countless other historical events in order to place Otto's rule in the year 1000. 1000 years after Christ's death, the main reason being he wanted to rule a thousand years after the birth of Christ. How historians have offered considerable evidence that debunks the theory, not the least of which is that this hypothesis ignores the development of other cultures around the world during those 300 years. And apparently, astronomers have also said no, that's for sure not real, but. It's like a, a whole theory that people have flushed out and it just cracks me up because if they can just wipe out 10 or 11 days from the calendar here and there, like why couldn't they just wipe out 300 years? Because again, who's writing the history books? Who's

Katiuscia:

writing writing? Who's writing the history books? What's going on? That's really that monumental in that time period anyway, that needs, that would significantly change how things continued on. Even if you did remove it.

Megan:

Yeah.

Katiuscia:

It's those comments that we make of, well, that's a day of my life. I'll never be able to get back. When you have to do some really shitty stuff, is it gonna make a monumental change? No.

Megan:

Right. Or like even when you fly.

Katiuscia:

Sure.

Megan:

Like from Australia to here, you, you, the whole day of your life doesn't exist because you're crossing time zones,

Katiuscia:

which it's so hard to take. Medication on those days too.'cause you're, you think, oh yeah, I was supposed to take this at night every night. So is it just 24 hours then it throws me off for everything else.

Megan:

Yeah.

Katiuscia:

It's a crazy, I don't like that. So I do wanna ask how you count your calendar, how you count the months of the year. Days. How do you remember the days in a month?

Megan:

Oh, like which? Like that rhyme. I never could remember that rhyme. So I don't, there's a

Katiuscia:

rhyme

Megan:

Uhhuh,

Katiuscia:

I use my knuckles

Megan:

30 days. Have September, April, June and November. There's more to it than that, but like, I don't remember.

Katiuscia:

I use my knuckles do

Megan:

not. My freaking birthday's in April and I can't remember that. It only has 30 days, so I don't freaking know.

Katiuscia:

Do you not use your knuckles?

Megan:

Uhuh.

Katiuscia:

So you're supposed to put a, like make a fist and use the knuckles. So every knuckle is a month with.

Megan:

31

Katiuscia:

31 days. So January, February, March, April, may, June, July, and then you restart because that gets to your last knuckle.

Megan:

Because if

Katiuscia:

you're, if you have all of your way,

Megan:

Julius, Caesar and Augustus wanted

Katiuscia:

both had 31.

Megan:

They wanted to have 31 days.

Katiuscia:

Yeah. So now it goes back. So that's how I have to remember. I,

Megan:

I've heard of that. I just can't

Katiuscia:

because I'm 42.

Megan:

Yeah. I don't,

Katiuscia:

that's how I have to do it.

Megan:

Yeah. What? Yeah.

Katiuscia:

It's wild,

Megan:

but like, I mean, time is a construct, right? I obviously there's seasons and obvi, like all those things are real, but like the fact that humans have quantified it and regulated it and our entire lives revolve around time. We get paid for our hours at work. everything is time. And the Catholic church went, we own that. Is wild to me.

Katiuscia:

I think all of it's really fucking crazy.

Megan:

Yeah.

Katiuscia:

I think the fact that if we would've been in a better position or a better understanding, if it was 13 months with equal days and it was structured and it was easier for people to make their own decisions and. Kind of be in control of what they were doing. So that's where the bigger conspiracy theory comes in of, oh my God, I just, gosh, if I knew that every month started on a Sunday, it was 28 days and it was like rinse and repeat, literally.

Megan:

Yep.

Katiuscia:

Oh, how beautiful.

Megan:

Yeah.

Katiuscia:

Now I have to count on my knuckles and I don't know when things I wanna be, I wanna have total autonomy of knowing when things are. Gonna change and shift and not based on some weird numerical concept and construct that has been placed there for me to now just have to fall in line for

Megan:

Well, and then every like emergency room nurse I've ever talked to, a lot of vet techs we've had that go down like full moon fucks people up. I, I'm telling you. My kids start acting like a cat in a bathtub. Like it's, it would be nice. And one I, every time I look at the calendar, I go, oh, it's a full moon. That's why. That's why. But wouldn't it be cool to just know that more intuitively, we've been so disconnected from that, it'd be amazing to just know there's a full moon coming up. These idiots are gonna start acting like idiots. Idiots gonna idiot. You know? And. It's not so shocking, but

Katiuscia:

just kind of expected. I did read somewhere that the calendar was originally in like the k. Like with a calendar K and it was 'cause len's or however they wanna say it in that time period referred to the taxes. So,

Megan:

oh, I did read something about that.

Katiuscia:

Yeah, so there was something about that. I didn't look hard enough to remember just the source of it, but I saw that and I thought that's very interesting and also makes sense because even in the days of your all the Roman Empire days. Taxes was a thing. Jesus time. It was taxes was a thing. You always paid your taxes.

Megan:

Yeah.

Katiuscia:

So

Megan:

give to Caesar, what is Caesar's? Yeah. And the fact that it was like, no, we're gonna lose a lot on interest calculations is, a little bit of a head scratcher for me.

Katiuscia:

Mm-hmm.

Megan:

And so I don I, like I said, I don't think that that was necessarily like a nefarious beginning. But I think people quickly realized who was benefiting from it and they fought to keep it.

Katiuscia:

Well, what do you think it was at the beginning though, if it wasn't nefarious?

Megan:

I think that the Catholic church was on a quest, you know, the Holy Roman empire like that was it. They, they were to rule the world and they wanted to own science and religion and time. I think it was the power. Power grab. Yeah.

Katiuscia:

What do you think if everyone just started to, I mean, can we ever get normalcy back? We're just in this, when I hear the theories of us li living in a simulation and thinking of all that, makes me want to. Just, I mean, I'm, I'm so concerned about budgeting my life and trying to do all this, so it kind of makes you upset with that.

Megan:

Does it make you wanna just quit and go live in the woods?

Katiuscia:

Yes,

Megan:

because it does me. Yeah. Like there's a huge part of me that's like, fuck it, I wanna go live in the woods and just live off grid completely. But I really like indoor plumbing and electricity. And electricity and getting my packages in two days. It's a massive internal struggle for me.

Katiuscia:

So there's, yeah, but there's the whole,

Megan:

but I want all that knowledge.

Katiuscia:

Yeah,

Megan:

I You're talking about like witchy shit, but like, like a old wise woman, the sages. Yeah. I want that knowledge. I wanna know what things I can grow in my garden that would heal things like I want, I want that knowledge. Yeah, and I feel like I'm never as hard as I try. I can get some of it, but I'm never gonna have all of it and it makes me sad.

Katiuscia:

No, I feel like the only people who truly have that knowledge are people who are living that experience of having to figure it out on the fly.

Megan:

Yeah.

Katiuscia:

No, and having been brought up in that, yeah, the only way you're gonna know what tea to make for whatever ailment you have is literally if that was your life, that this is what you do, these are the things you have. And this is what, this is how it works. Yeah. It's just, it's a cool, I always looked at that and I thought like, I'll watch period piece movies. Right. You know, I was on little women for like ever. I love that. During Christmas. But I like that period, civil war time. It's not ideal. No one wants to live during that time, but I just think, gosh, it was so simple. Yeah, it must been so simple. Then you have like Bridger Tin era, which is, I don't know if you watch Bridger on Netflix. I wouldn't think so, but that's now very Bougie Britain era of, I don't even know what time period, but not even really war. There's not much war going on in Bridger 10. I think, oh, would I wanna survive in that? Where you have the coming out parties and you have to go like meet the Queen and you know, almost the original cotillions. I guess. Do I want that? I don't know. It seems a little, I don't really wanna wear corsets and not to that extent.

Megan:

I was a theater kid. I've had to wear

Katiuscia:

corsets.

Megan:

No, thank you.

Katiuscia:

Same. Not fun. So little women is probably. The era that I would say. But then I also see Gatsby and I'm like, well, I could survive in the Roar in twenties.

Megan:

Oh yeah, buddy.

Katiuscia:

But that there was so much of a crash after that. Yeah. That was so, you know, be careful what you wish for.

Megan:

I mean, there's pluses and minuses to every era. To

Katiuscia:

every era.

Megan:

Like I,

Katiuscia:

Peaky Blinders I live in. Yeah.

Megan:

I love Peaky Blinders,

Katiuscia:

but I think my point is, I. It is so hard because if that, if it was supposed to be simpler, I feel like every era has just gotten more complex. Mm-hmm. In number one, the expectations, but two, what you make versus what it costs to live. Mm-hmm. And then fast forward to the banking system and everything going on. In our world it's, can we ever get ahead? I know that money. Is a whole link to corruption, whatever. I will tell you what,

Megan:

I don't want corruption money. I just want whatever's right under that.

Katiuscia:

Listen, I will tell you what, to the people who have the money that they would like to try to corrupt someone, please, I will be an, I will be an example. I promise to be true to who I am whilst taking all this money. I think it's fair. I think it would be a good social experiment. Let's. Just give me a bunch of money. You can have some too.

Megan:

Thank you.

Katiuscia:

Not corruption level, but what you would give anyone. No, actually I do want corruption level money. I want what you would give someone in order to corrupt them and solidify it.

Megan:

I want $1 less than that.

Katiuscia:

And in the proof of showing you that you can give me corruption money and I'm not gonna do anything with it. I feel that that shit is also, yes, money does it. Power does it more? Oh yeah, for sure. You are gonna have the power. I don't want the power though. I just, I don't either want the money. I just want the money and I wanna be able to live comfortably and not have to overstress every day.

Megan:

Mm-hmm.

Katiuscia:

About the shit that is what it seems or is not what it seems. And why is this bag of smart pop popcorn less?

Megan:

Mm-hmm.

Katiuscia:

But yet the Oreo package is still the same because they've just shrunk the ounces and given you like one or two less Oreos. I will say chips. Chips do the bigger disservice in the grocery store. Yeah. So back to your example. Chips and anything bagged.

Megan:

Mm-hmm.

Katiuscia:

If you're in a package, you're better. But still,

Megan:

I'm gonna say, if anybody ever sees my children out in public on a non-school day, they know I don't want the power.'cause those people dress themselves,

Katiuscia:

those people.

Megan:

It's what it is. I do not want power, but you know, I know someone who. Worked on a security detail for a very powerful person in our lives.

Katiuscia:

Okay.

Megan:

Okay. I'm gonna try to not give too many details 'cause that's not the point. The point is that that guy has so much effing money and this person that I know was like, the interesting thing is he doesn't seem to care about the money. He still drives like a shitty old like Toyota Corolla. I don't remember if that's what it was, but it was like he drives a shitty car. His house is not, it's very nice for where it is. It's in a very nice part of the town, but it's not a huge mansion or anything like that. What this guy very clearly cares about is the power, and this guy is ruined millions of people's lives. He cares about the power. That's all he cares about. So I totally agree with you.

Katiuscia:

Interesting

Megan:

that power is more corrosive than even money. And that's why I think that there are people

Katiuscia:

for

Megan:

sure pulling the strings, hundred percent who only care about the power and then they control the people who care about the money. And then they are all beating up our lives and adding more and more and more and more and more so that we can't pay attention to what's. Really going on, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. Like that's, I firmly believe that that's happening.

Katiuscia:

Sure.

Megan:

And then even below, the people with the money are the people who are caught in the machine who think that they're doing the right thing, but they're caught in the machine and they don't have time to step outside, or they don't have the means or the way, or the energy, the bandwidth, whatever, to step outside that machine and look around and go, this isn't right. Or the people who have done that get absolutely blasted for it. And so it behooves you to just keep your head down and be in the machine.

Katiuscia:

I don't wanna be in a machine. I would really like a calendar that just made more sense.

Megan:

I would too.

Katiuscia:

I would like to know that my birthday is on the same day every year and that Christmas is gonna be on the same day every year and Easter. Yeah. And all of these things that we all, oh, well, you can't do it that day because this year, Christmas is on a Tuesday.

Megan:

Yeah.

Katiuscia:

We're just shucks, what do I do about that? I just want order. I think everything is, as much as I love to be in control of certain aspects of my life, everything I can control, I always say. There's so much that's not in my control and it comes down to shit that I would've never even thought about. Like a calendar. Mm-hmm. Like it wasn't like this when it first started and now it is because it became more convenient for everyone running the show. Yeah. You're just in the show. But these people, it needs to be easier for them 'cause they're running it and they're benefiting off it

Megan:

and it does make sense. With this world that we live in today, like the world is smaller with the digital shit, blah, blah, blah, to have like a centralized calendar for everybody to follow in the whole world. But if not a hundred percent of the people are following it, then it may, you know, Ethiopia, I mean, I don't know what their GDP is. I don't know anything about their economy, but like,

Katiuscia:

I'm gonna go with not high,

Megan:

but like. Get on board with our calendar or you are not going to thrive as a country. Right. That's what I'm saying. So like

Katiuscia:

respectfully,

Megan:

they can say it makes sense to have everybody be on the same calendar. Sure. But can't that calendar make some sense?

Katiuscia:

Just logic. Yeah. It goes back to logic, which nobody has apparently. No, we have it and I just want it, but I really do wanna test the theory of I will get the, I'll take the money. Happily.

Megan:

Yeah,

Katiuscia:

just for science, for research, just to know.

Megan:

So if you hear me say Happy fake New Year for all of January, that's what's up. And I will 100% be telling everybody Happy New Year on the spring Equinox. Not because I'm like a weird Pagan person or I'm bad Catholic, just because I think that that's when New Year should start.

Katiuscia:

Also though, I think to anyone who could, even if you're looking at this from just an a third party, very neutral, very uninvolved, haven't done the research perspective. When you talk about New Year and just new life, it logically makes sense that it would be when the flowers are blooming and not when everything is dormant sleeping. If you're gonna cut out whole periods of middle Ages according to some people. You can cut out the sleepy portion of the year and make it even less. I mean, if you wanna start,

Megan:

yeah,

Katiuscia:

cutting away, but to add a month to make it make sense more, I'm just the fan of, I like logic so much. I like order. I like knowing things because everything can happen, even when you know it, that is out of your control. So I think for me, when I start hearing about the new Year thing, and then there's. There's so many things though. Zodiac signs, there's 13. They want, you know, it's supposed to be 13 months in the year, 28 days. Everything's starting on Sunday.

Megan:

Well, and because our current 12 Zodiac signs are not monthly. No. They're like, well, yeah, you're born in April, so you might be in Aries, but you could also be a Taurus. Like, come on, people, it's the

Katiuscia:

21st or the 22nd. It's always of something ridiculous. So. You have the zodiac signs. This, you know, there's the whole world of astrology and all this shit as well. But I think, gosh, if so many of the science things like, we'll call it woo woo, but it's not woo woo, but the zodiac and the watching the stars and the, this, I don't know,

Megan:

the natural world,

Katiuscia:

the sagey people, the, the folklore. I don't know, whatever I'm trying to make it. Fine. Those people. Those people, if you're just trying to match it, it, and that's kind of how they're doing things to regulate, number one, their bodies. Number two, how they understand what period we're in. If that makes logical sense, why do we have to man just have to go in and lock it up?

Megan:

Yeah.

Katiuscia:

Because that's what they do. They go in and they f something up because they find what benefits them more.

Megan:

Yeah.

Katiuscia:

Honestly,

Megan:

also. Can we get rid of daylight saving time, please. For the love of God.

Katiuscia:

Dude, that is something I will, that like I will die on the hill of. This is bullshit.

Megan:

It is bullshit all the time. And so the politician that finally makes that happen has my vote.

Katiuscia:

I thought it's been voted for

Megan:

so many, many times. Oh, it's been proposed so many times and they just like many,

Katiuscia:

and it vote, it wins like it passes.

Megan:

But, uh, when I lived in Arizona and we didn't have daylight saving time, it was great except that I had one parent in one time zone and one parent in another time zone, and I had to figure out which time zone I was, which parent I was aligned with for half of the year that it sucks, but it's doable. Can we get done with that? So the politicians listening, if you my vote abolish daylight saving time, abolish the IRS. There you go.

Katiuscia:

Done.

Megan:

Like that's how to make everybody's lives better. Immediately

Katiuscia:

done.

Megan:

And then we can work on the calendar.

Katiuscia:

I mean, I think daylight savings and the calendar can all go into one.

Megan:

Yeah. Sorry. Yes. But if you want just baby steps, daylight saving time,

Katiuscia:

daylight savings,

Megan:

just take it out.

Katiuscia:

Yeah. I don't like it. Ugh. And it doesn't do anything. You go forward, you go back, you end up at the same stupid time. It's still ultra dark in the morning. In the winter obnoxiously and then, or coming into spring and then dark in the, you know, coming dark into the winter and it just, whatever. I mean, I feel like that's how nature should be, but it's still really annoying.

Megan:

The only time I liked daylight saving time. Is when, or the only time it benefited me, I'm gonna say, is when I was working graveyard shift at hotels.

Katiuscia:

Mm.

Megan:

And you, I would purposely schedule myself for that shift because then I got an extra hour of money.

Katiuscia:

Oh.

Megan:

But that's it. That's the only way.

Katiuscia:

Yeah. We're over it.

Megan:

Yep. Okay.

Katiuscia:

That was a lot. Yep. Thanks for that.

Megan:

Yep. Thanks for hanging in with me.

Katiuscia:

Yeah. And have a good day to everyone, except everyone who blames their really shitty poor behavior on the moon or their astrological zo, their zodiac sound,

Megan:

or mercury in the microwave.

Katiuscia:

Yeah. Or that. Yeah. Yes, everyone but you. Yep. Bye.

Megan:

Bye.