Treatments We Love

In this episode, Amy Ingle and Amber Shaffer discuss various aesthetic treatments, focusing on their favorites, including IPL, Sculptra, and laser hair removal. They share personal experiences and insights on managing client expectations, the importance of maintenance treatments, and the latest trends in fillers. The conversation also touches on chemical peels, PRP, and body contouring innovations, providing a comprehensive overview of the aesthetic industry.

Takeaways

IPL is effective for hyperpigmentation and requires maintenance treatments.

Sculptra promotes collagen and elastin, showing results over time.

Laser hair removal is beneficial for reducing razor burn.

Managing client expectations is crucial for filler treatments.

Chemical peels can improve skin texture and tone.

PRP is gaining popularity for its skin rejuvenation benefits.

Body contouring techniques are evolving with new innovations.

Communication with clients about treatment results is essential.

Understanding the science behind treatments helps in client education.

Aesthetic treatments require ongoing maintenance for best results.

Titles

Unlocking the Secrets of Aesthetic Treatments

IPL vs. Sculptra: Which is Right for You?

 Sound bites

"IPL gets rid of hyperpigmentation."

"I wanted a little more plumpness."

"TCA peel helps with hyperpigmentation."

 Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Aesthetic Treatments

00:28 Exploring IPL Therapy

02:12 Understanding Sculptra and Its Benefits

04:19 Comparing Sculptra to Traditional Fillers

05:57 Challenges of Laser Hair Reduction

07:40 Trends in Lip Fillers

09:41 Filler Expectations and Realities

11:21 The Role of Peels in Skin Care

14:46 The Power of PRP Treatments

18:41 Innovations in Aesthetic Procedures

19:56 The Brazilian Butt Lift Experience

22:30 Understanding Radiofrequency Treatments

24:14 Addressing Skin Laxity Post-Weight Loss

25:09 The Origins and Evolution of Sculptra 

Transcript

Amy Ingle (0:1.142)

Welcome to Glow Up and Get Real. I am the Sweet Face Injector and I have the Injector Perfector with us today, Amber Shaffer. Thanks for joining me. Thank you. So we were trying to decide what we wanted to talk about. ⁓ And I think what we're gonna do is talk about treatments that we have done ⁓ personally, ⁓ what we like, what we don't like, what works well, ⁓ and just go from there. So anything goes. So here we go.

⁓ So let's talk about your favorite procedure that you ⁓ like to do on clients. What would you say that is? ⁓ The IPL, which is the Intense Pulsated Light Therapy. It gets rid of the hyperpigmentation on the skin, like the dark brown spots. ⁓ A lot of people do not like the dark brown spots from the sun damage. So ⁓ it's pretty promising. I see a lot of great results ⁓ when I do it. I've even had it done on myself. ⁓

Is it your favorite procedure for yourself? Yes. Yeah. And that's because? ⁓ I get the results I'm looking for. really good results. Yeah. How many treatments have you done? I would say about three. Three? ⁓ how much time? ⁓ They were about four to six weeks apart. Okay. And that's really ideal for IPO because, ⁓ you know, we live in Florida and we're in the sun constantly. ⁓ Even we can wear sunscreen, but as we get older, ⁓

We just naturally get hyperpigmentation. So I always suggest to my clients they get like a package of three and do it a month apart. How about a maintenance though? ⁓ yeah. What do you tell your clients for maintenance? So I say like at the six month mark get one done. So every six months come in for a tune up. ⁓ Yeah. think that's a good idea. Yeah. So I like IPL too. ⁓ But you get better results than I do. I crank up mine. Yeah. You go high on the energy which really does help.

increase. Yeah, that hyperpigmentation treatment. ⁓ It's a little sc- well, but you're, you're tough. Yeah. And we can numb too. ⁓ So I have clients that are like, you know, it's not really uncomfortable, just a little, but just numb me anyway. Yeah. And we can do that. So that's nice. Okay. So tell me about other treatments you've had. You've had ⁓ Sculptra. Sculptra. ⁓ Yeah. And so tell me about Sculptra.

Amy Ingle (2:26.894)

⁓ Sculptcha is a bio stimulator. helps promote collagen and elastin to areas that are like depressed, ⁓ cheek hollows. ⁓ I had two treatments so far and I'm loving my results so far. Yeah. So your first treatment was four weeks ago, six weeks ago. Yeah. Okay. Your first treatment. What did you notice after the first treatment? Well, of course, after the first treatment, your face is like fluid overload, but...

Yeah, it was fine. For how long? ⁓ That night it kind of went away. Okay, so kind of all absorbed. Yeah. So then when did you, I actually pointed out to you, I noticed. You noticed. I noticed. ⁓ It's harder for you to notice on your own self because you look at yourself every day in the mirror. ⁓ But I hadn't seen you in a couple weeks or a week and a half or two weeks and I was like, wow, the sculpture is working. So do you notice it's working?

The second treatment I do notice a lot more. Okay. All right. And that's how many vials did you do? One ⁓ in total? ⁓ First treatment. First treatment. I only did one file. I didn't think I was that bad. Okay. And then second treatment one vial. Okay. ⁓ So typically for my clients, I always start with two vials. Do you do that as well? Yes. Yeah. ⁓ So I feel like you just need to boost them with two and then

go back in four to six weeks and do a second vial or even two vials depending on the client. ⁓ So what do you think ⁓ your final result is going to be and when do you think you're going to achieve it with the Sculptra? definitely before next year. But ⁓ one more in six weeks. You're going to do a third treatment? I'm going to do the ⁓ Sculptra challenge and put them to the test because I have a lot of clients that actually

Swear by it and go okay. I'll try it. Mm-hmm. And so I'm just off ⁓ That's one treatment. I haven't tried I usually try all the treatments in the spa and that is one I haven't tried so ⁓ You're gonna have to inject me with some sculpture soon. So I like Lee Yeah, so we can like talk about it together and I can relate to how it is as a client ⁓ With sculpture. Can you explain what it does to your face? ⁓ Why how is it different than filler like ⁓ Juvederm or restel in how is it different?

Amy Ingle (4:48.270)

How is it different? Well, it's not per se filler. It's not the hyaluronic acid. And it has, no, I'll have ⁓ to edit that part ⁓ out. well, how do you explain to your clients what's going to happen? So they're going to notice like that maybe they won't notice the results the first treatment. Maybe you will. Everybody is so different and it's individualized. ⁓

So I ⁓ tell them by the second treatment or the third treatment, you should see something ⁓ from the first treatment per se, because it takes your body about what, three months to get the collagen and elastin in that area. yeah. ⁓ So ⁓ areas that we treat with Sculptra ⁓ are mainly cheek hollows. ⁓ I've heard people doing it in the booty, but I've never done that in the booty.

Also Sculptra you can do in the neck and the déplutée in the temples. Oh, yeah those I've done that. Temples, okay. Just not in the lips or under the eyes. Right. That's where that's no zone. Yeah. No injection zone. okay. And the cheeks right because. Cheeks you can. Oh, because I was. Sculptra with cheeks? I thought like the radius goes here. Well you can you can use radius or.

Sculptra there. Yeah. Yeah. And radius is a bio stem too. yeah. ⁓ okay. So your favorite is IPL for yourself and for your clients. Well, for you to do, ⁓ what do you not like? ⁓ Laser hair reduction. What? Say that again. So it's loud. ⁓ Laser hair ⁓ reduction. Yes. Okay. So that's so much fun. ⁓ not. ⁓

I don't mind doing it for my clients and it is great to have, but it's kind of frustrating because you can't, it's just not a one and done really. You have to do a series of like six to eight treatments to really get a good result. And then hair's crazy. It can like regenerate. ⁓ And so you might get a patch somewhere that grows a year later, five years later, 10 years later, it just can happen. ⁓ I know when I went on hormone therapy, ⁓ I...

Amy Ingle (7:9.742)

I had to relaser my underarms because it just regenerated. I only had to do one treatment and it's good, but it's kind of interesting how hair can regenerate itself in the places you don't want it. Especially, I would love it on my head, but you know. Love to regenerate in your hair, in your head. I would like this back. Well, I think laser hair is great. It's so nice because it can cut down on razor burn.

That's what I think most of our clients that come in, they're trying to treat their razor burn and the only way they can do it is with laser hair. And so it is great for that treatment, I think. And it really does help a lot. I've seen some really amazing results with laser hair and razor burn not being an issue anymore. So I really get like that red irritation. Yeah.

write the bumps and the red bumps. Yeah. So that's good. Okay. So you don't like, well, it's not that you don't like laser hair on yourself because you've never done it on yourself. You just don't like performing it. ⁓ Just telling the truth guys. Sorry. That's okay. That's all right. We all have like our favorites and non-favorites. So, yeah. Okay. So what other things have you done ⁓ on me? Yes. Okay. So filler, ⁓ cheek filler, cheek filler, ⁓ chin filler.

Lip filler. Multiple times lip filler because ⁓ I like to mess around with the trends and ⁓ what was the latest trend? ⁓ keyhole. ⁓ yeah, keyhole in the lip and you've been doing that and you even have a keyhole. ⁓ did you have a keyhole before? No. No? Okay. And it looks good. How did you do the keyhole? ⁓ you explain what a keyhole is? ⁓

Yeah, a keyhole is like a little bit of a ⁓ hole at the center of the lip. Like a dimple kind Yeah. So ⁓ I tried to get that. You could do it with the upper, lower, or both, like a little indentation or dimple. How I did it was I took a popsicle stick to the side and while I was injecting, and I just left it there for an hour. ⁓ An hour? Do you think that was overkill?

Amy Ingle (9:25.964)

Yes. Okay. Absolutely. No one do that. I just did it because I'm overkill. So one thing that I do if I if somebody requests a keyhole is I'll take dental floss. Yes. And I'll tie a knot, stick it in their teeth. So it's kind of anchored and they'll pull down the dental floss and inject. Yeah. Have them hold that. I like that way better. But I like the popsicle stick because I think it looked it looks really natural. Looks good. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. ⁓ All right. So your lips, how many syringes do you have in your lips right now? ⁓

I kind of lost count at the moment. ⁓ Well, with a certain product, I've been putting like every six months. A full syringe? Not a full syringe. OK. No, not a full syringe. And then ⁓ with a different product, I felt like it lasted longer. OK. So I'll get maybe like eight months ⁓ out of it or.

I feel, because it's still going strong, I feel like maybe a year I'll get out of this. ⁓ really? Okay. ⁓ Can you tell us what the products are that you're talking about? Yes. Okay. So the first product was Versa. Versa. Okay. ⁓ And maybe because like the product was still in there. ⁓ But ⁓ I felt like the consistency was just a little too much thinner. It's for a natural looking lip.

I didn't want natural looking. I wanted a little more plumpness, more pout. ⁓ So I went with RHA3. Okay. And ⁓ I feel like that is lasting longer. Okay. ⁓ And I also tell people that, you know, once you have that foundation of filler and then you add to it, you don't have to use as much. Right. If you keep up with it. Yeah. So maybe that versi gave it a little foundation and the RHA3 could sit on top of that.

But it is firmer, RHA3, so you're gonna notice it's there more, I think. ⁓ And then with your cheeks, how many syringes do you have in your cheeks? ⁓ So I would say probably two syringes, because I started with one ⁓ months ago, and then ⁓ recently did another syringe. ⁓ Like half and half. ⁓

Amy Ingle (11:46.604)

All right, very good. What about your chin? What'd you do there? ⁓ RHA4 right there. And I tried to get rid of the jowls that I was noticing. So I created like the... ⁓ I gotta stop looking in the mirror. ⁓ yes, and plus my chin is like dull and recessed back a little bit. So I added RHA4 there and ⁓ tried to create the illusion of like not having the jowls. ⁓

Okay, all right good good. Are you happy with that? Do you think it turned out good? How much did you use? ⁓ One. syringe? you used a full syringe for your chin? ⁓ Okay. Yeah, like from here. Mm-hmm. Okay. Because one syringe is really like a blueberry. Yes, the amount of, yeah, the size of a blueberry is one syringe. Yeah. ⁓ We laugh, you know, when people come in and say I want this, this, this, but I only want to spend ⁓ on one syringe. One syringe. ⁓

⁓ Yeah, that's not realistic. ⁓ how many ⁓ syringes of filler would you say is in your face right now? goodness. Well, ⁓ the lips have a significant amount. ⁓ Okay. But I would say, let's see, two, four, maybe five. Five syringes. Okay. ⁓ So when I come in to see new clients or clients that want to be reevaluated ⁓ for filler,

They'll say, I don't want a lot, I just want to look natural. And so I have to set this expectation with them, like, okay, but you need these many syringes. If you want all of this treatment, and then they're worried they're gonna not look natural. Right. So I use myself as an example, and I know you probably do too, because we feel comfortable talking about what we've done.

to our face. Some people, they don't want to share that information and that's okay being a client, but I think it's important that we share what we've done on each other and how it's worked ⁓ because it gives them more of an idea of what to expect. ⁓ So I always tell my clients, I only do natural and I'll say, do I look pretty natural? And they'll say, yes. I'll say, well, I have about eight, nine syringes on my face. And they're like, ⁓ no way. ⁓ No way. And I'm like, yes. ⁓

Amy Ingle (14:7.416)

But if you do it correctly, you do it ⁓ safely, then it'll look natural. But I have seen some people with what we call pillow face. ⁓ Know what I'm talking about? ⁓ Where they have so much filler in their cheeks that they look like a chipmunk. I know at one time, ⁓ Tom Cruise had that look. And I don't know if it was from, if he gained weight or if he had.

filler or if it was Sculptra, I don't know, but he just looked overfilled. Yeah. And he doesn't now. So, you know, you just have to avoid that. You to avoid that. And I've even turned people away and said, no, I'm not putting that much filler in. Have you done that? Yes, have turned people away. There's a select few that will come in. I want more in lips. More in their All I see are your lips. So. Yeah.

Please stop. So what do you tell them? How do you approach it nicely? That I think professionally. Yeah, that there is enough. I would hate to cause any tissue damage. Like you are keeping the vessels, you know, you just want perfusion in there, know, blood. you don't want to overfill and create some tissue necrosis. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm trying to use layman's terms here. It's But

Yeah, so I'll just tell them as ⁓ an injector, experienced injector that ⁓ I just feel it's unsafe. We're hitting that unsafe. ⁓ Yeah. And also I'll say, I think if we put another syringe in your lips, it's not going to look natural and it has a higher incidence of possibility of migration. yeah, that too. definitely ⁓ tell them that. Yeah. It'll migrate.

And I think I think clients like appreciate our honesty, I mean I'll joke I'll say wow, I'm like a really bad Marketer I'm a really bad salesperson because I'm you're wanting a syringe and I'm saying don't do it, know, and I'm like so but they appreciate that honesty And I think that's why they keep coming back. We have some clients that have been with us for eight years and they're still Coming back because they trust us which is nice. Yeah, so

Amy Ingle (16:23.246)

What else have you done? I know we talked about a couple other things that you've done in the spa, not necessarily injections. But you've done, you did a TCA peel, a 30 % TCA peel. Yeah, tell us about that. Okay, so the TCA peel, I do like it. It does help with hyperpigmentation as well. IPL, I feel is the best, but it does help. It also gets rid of

creepiness after after you're gonna have creepiness during ⁓ like a week the downtime what they say it's like a week it's not that bad and so your face just looks like ⁓ it's never had Botox in its life. It's a little tight and you see every little like wrinkle but that's what the TCA peel process and then you peel not like a sunburn peel like that it kind of

For me, for me, it was a little flaky-ish. ⁓ And then underneath, like, it closed my pores. It gave me a porcelain type of ⁓ appearance. ⁓ No wrinkles. ⁓ the sunspots have definitely lightened more. ⁓ I've done a Jessner's peel, which is not as intense as TCA. Yours is a little more intense. ⁓ Same thing with the recovery. It's like your skin gets dry like a sunburn. ⁓

It doesn't hurt. It's just really tight. Yeah. And you put makeup on and it just looks weird. It's like, doesn't everything goes in the credits. Yeah. ⁓ But then once it peels off, it's like, Yeah, everything is really smooth. And so I try and do those once a month. How often do you do? You said you only had one. I only had one because I'm dabbling with sculpture right now. Okay. Okay. Now we haven't talked about PRP. ⁓

platelet-rich plasma, you have not done PRP. Not on me, but on other people. Yeah. And so tell us about that process. That's like a whole other podcast talking about PRP, which is probably my favorite. I think it's one of my favorite treatments now in the spa, PRP derma gel. ⁓ It's something that's new. ⁓ It's just really interesting. So talk about that. ⁓ Yes. So the PRP, ⁓ we draw blood from

Amy Ingle (18:46.634)

your body and then we spin it ⁓ so the red blood cells are divided from the plasma and then we ⁓ take the plasma part and the rich part too ⁓ and ⁓ we draw it up in these little syringes and it takes time about 10 minutes we put it in a heater and 10 minutes later you'll notice that the PRP is a little more like solid it's you can't see through it anymore so it's more solid

And then so we don't burn your face off, we put it in a cooler for 10 minutes. And then we swish it with ⁓ the PRP that wasn't heated. So that way the filler doesn't look lumpy when I inject it. I just, that's the way I do it. I switch it. So in the past, I learned eight years ago, PRP, we draw the blood, spin it in a centrifuge. It would separate the reds from the plasma and the platelets.

We draw ⁓ the platelets out and put it on the face or we'd inject it in the face. Now we can turn it into like a derma filler, which is really exciting. So when we will separate the platelet rich from the platelet poor and we will heat the ⁓ platelet poor and keep the platelet rich ⁓ unheated. ⁓ And so it breaks the hydrogen bonds. And so when the hydrogen bonds break through heating at a ⁓ hundred degrees Celsius.

and we heat it for 10 minutes. It's like we're cooking, we're in the kitchen. ⁓ It will make it thick. And if we want it thicker, we could cook it a little longer. Or if you want it thinner, cook it not as long. So it's really like, you know, baking. And then we put it in the cooler, like you said, thank goodness, because you don't want to heat up the platelet rich. ⁓ So you cool it and then you mix the rich with the platelet poor, which is already a gel ⁓ and inject it. So I love it because, and I've had it,

⁓ It makes your skin just look so amazing I have gotten more compliments on my skin in the last two months than I have in my entire life ⁓ and I know it's because of the the platelets. That's awesome. The platelet-rich plasma derma gel. We also added Wharton's jelly though last time we did it to mine. we did. ⁓ And that was an interesting process. So Wharton's jelly is mesenchymal cells from vocal cords is what we use and we mixed that ⁓ with the derma gel.

Amy Ingle (21:6.926)

And it was interesting, very interesting. My face was like red. It was hot. I had such an inflammatory response. It was like overwhelming almost. But I think I needed that because my skin, my tear troughs filled in. They're not as deep as they were. And I just think my skin overall looks better. My pores are smaller. So I'm a big believer in it. It's kind of a newer thing. There's not a lot of people that know about it.

But we need to tell people about it because it is great. I think it's really good. ⁓ What else ⁓ did we miss? ⁓ a Tiva ⁓ and ⁓ BBL, baby. ⁓ BBL, baby. BBL. BBL. And not the broadband light. No. It's ⁓ the one you think it is. ⁓ The booty. The booty. ⁓ So you've had ⁓ the Brazilian butt lift.

with radius hyper dilute and we used 14 syringes radius. Now radius comes in one and a half. Yes. Mills. So that's like a one and a half syringe. So we had 14 of those and we super diluted it with normal saline and injected it with a two, no, no, no, four inch canula. It was at 18 gauge.

but ⁓ it was comfortable, it didn't hurt. Yeah, it wasn't bad. You numbed me pretty well. ⁓ first time, I'm gonna tell them that the first time I had it done, she noticed scar tissue and that's, I'll you guys, ⁓ I had liposuction like a retard back in my 20s. Maybe I shouldn't use that word, ⁓ but anyways, we could dub that out. But ⁓ yes, I had liposuction in my early 20s and boy, do I regret that. That was a dumb.

move on my part, but so I wanted my booty back ⁓ and I was going to be the test dummy. ⁓ And yeah, she noticed there was some scar tissue as she was trying to get the radius ⁓ in the cheeks. the ⁓ second or maybe the third time you noticed the scar tissue had lessen. So that was nice. Yeah, it has broken up a little bit. It was easier to inject. ⁓ And so yeah, we have pictures. I want to

Amy Ingle (23:24.052)

overlay pictures that we talk about of your before and afters. So hopefully I can get those up. ⁓ And so you've had two, three, three treatments now. ⁓ And your first treatment was a year and two months ago. ⁓ So we need to do some more pictures and see how it looks. ⁓ You feel like it's fading away though. Honestly, but it could be the filler blindness where I'm just so used to seeing my what?

⁓ in a shape that I just don't even notice. But I feel like it's kind of, yeah, we'll have to do pictures to see. ⁓ You though loved it. yeah. my gosh. Did I love it? We're leggings all day. ⁓ Leggings all day. ⁓ Leggings all the time. Bathing suits. Yeah. ⁓ Yeah. G string bathing suits. ⁓ I ⁓ don't know about that G string, but ⁓ yeah. Yeah. OK. ⁓ And I feel like there's one other one that, Ativa.

So you have not ⁓ had a Tiva, but you do a Tiva. Can you explain? That's probably our most ⁓ technical ⁓ treatment, don't you think? For us, it's very technical. Yeah, I think the process mostly is the numbing. ⁓ yeah. Such a process. Yeah. The lidocaine wash and such. But we numb you so you don't feel anything. And then it's a cannula that has like ⁓ a ⁓

a tip at the end of it that causes ⁓ a reaction so that you can have ⁓ collagen and elastin. ⁓ You could probably describe this better than me right now. Radiofrequency. Yes, radiofrequency. That's monopolar. guys. ⁓ All that. Monopolar. ⁓ And we set the setting up to about 50, I do like 52 degrees Celsius. Yeah. What do you set yours at?

Depends on what I'm doing. Yeah, it depends on what you're doing. I'll crank to 60 if I'm doing some lipolysis. Yeah, I have done that. Yeah. I had a client with a lot of... I was just gonna say, didn't I do that to you? Submental fat. Yeah. And I cranked that up. I cranked it to 60 and I heard some sizzling going on. was like, yes, sizzle, sizzle. Yeah. And so that is an amazing treatment.

Amy Ingle (25:50.890)

Everybody's had great results with it. It's not a one and done. I mean you can do one time and Wait a couple years to get another one, but you know we age every day So I say you're gonna have to come back and get another one in a year or two ⁓ Because we just age and and our diets are bad. ⁓ yeah, our diets are bad plus if you're ⁓ Losing weight and your skin laxity is true ⁓ True, of course, that's gonna mess with the results. Yeah

So it's just a whole bunch of ⁓ influences on your skin age, if you smoke, if you drink, if you don't eat properly, your nutrition's not as great as it could be. ⁓ And if you're on ozempic, semi-glutidotrizepatide and you lose weight, ⁓ you're gonna have a lot of skin laxity. That's just part of losing weight, whether you're on the drug or not, it just happens. ⁓ we kind of incorporate that with some of our weight loss patients. ⁓

get them on board to do some treatments after they lost some weight. So, okay. Anything else? Well, I'll get a lot of clients that have that semi-glutide sunken face. Yeah. It doesn't have to be semi-glutide, but and so I tell them Sculptra. Sculptra. So do you know how they came up with Sculptra? Oh, enlighten me. Okay. So this is, I don't know how many years ago I got to do my research so I can be more specific. And when we talk about bio-stems, can...

⁓ I should be able to tell you like dates and stuff. ⁓ But they started out Sculptra for patients with HIV that were getting cacchectic ⁓ and sunken face from ⁓ weight loss and ⁓ muscle and ⁓ fat loss. I heard it. I wasn't sure if it was legit. So that's how they started that. And then it worked so well. They're like, let's just bring it to the cosmetic ⁓ industry and voila.

Galderma has a Sculptra in their packet. ⁓ yeah, I'm excited to try Sculptra. I'm excited to do it. Yeah, but it's one of those things you don't get the results right away. have to wait. ⁓ Like filler instant. Like you see it instant. It's awesome. Botox, toxins, you have to wait a couple of days. But Sculptra, you really have to wait like two months really to start seeing results. And it's very slow and minute. ⁓

Amy Ingle (28:18.742)

you know, it's a great treatment and people love it. And when they start it, they usually keep up with it because if you just let it just ⁓ absorb and you don't ⁓ do touch-ups, then you're starting from scratch again. You have to do two vials to start rather than one vial. So I always say just maintenance, just make sure that you are on the books for six months or eight months or a year ⁓ to get your vial and just ⁓ like I said, tune-ups.

Two notes, all about two notes. actually had a client yesterday, I did a Sculptron and she asked me, do I have to do all these files again? I'm like, nah, it's a maintenance. Yeah, maintenance. Less. Less, yeah. Right. well, thank you so much for coming. Thank you for having me. Having you in the sweet spot, spa, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, the small sweet. We talked about some things that we're going to discuss next podcast, which is really.

interesting. The myths, debunking myths in the Medi Spa. you won't want to miss that. So thank you so much. Bye y'all. ⁓