Emotional Pet Snake During Botox… Are you Kidding Me?

In this episode of "Glow Up and Get Real," Amy Ingle, known as the Sweet Face Injector, interviews Dr. Amber Shaffer, a seasoned nurse and expert in cosmetic injections. They discuss various aspects of cosmetic procedures, including lip injections, facial contouring, and the myths surrounding Botox. The conversation also touches on humorous client interactions and the importance of self-love and acceptance in the beauty industry.

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Amber Shaffer, DNP

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Takeaways

•           Amber Shaffer is an expert in lip injections and facial contouring.

•           Lip flips are a great introduction to lip fillers for new clients.

•           Amber avoids overfilling to prevent unnatural 'duck lips.'

•           Botox myths often stem from misinformation on social media.

•           Client reactions to cosmetic procedures can be humorous and varied.

•           Self-love and acceptance are crucial in the beauty industry.

•           Amber shares tips on avoiding common filler mistakes.

•           The importance of understanding client needs and expectations.

•           Cosmetic procedures can boost confidence and self-esteem.

•           The beauty industry has seen changes due to increased online presence.

Title Options

•           The Art of Lip Injections with Amber Shaffer

•           Debunking Botox Myths with Dr. Amber Shaffer

•           Glow Up: Inside the World of Cosmetic Injections

•           From X-Ray Tech to Cosmetic Expert: Amber Shaffer's Journey

•           Laughs and Lessons in the Beauty Industry

•           Lip Filler 101: Tips from the Experts

•           The Sweet Face Injector's Guide to Beauty

•           Navigating Client Expectations in Cosmetic Procedures

•           The Role of Self-Love in Beauty Treatments

•           How Social Media Shapes Beauty Perceptions

Sound bites

"No, I'm not gonna let you look like a duck." "Lip flip is perfect for first-timers." "Botox myths are rampant on TikTok." "Self-love is key in the beauty industry." "Avoid overfilling to prevent 'duck lips.'" "Client reactions can be quite funny." "Understanding client needs is crucial." "Cosmetic procedures boost confidence." "The beauty industry is evolving online." "Amber Shaffer shares her expert tips."

Chapters

•           00:00:00 Introduction to Amber Shaffer

•           00:00:00 Lip Injections and Techniques

•           00:00:00 Botox Myths and Realities

•           00:00:00 Client Interactions and Humor

•           00:00:00 The Importance of Self-Love

Transcript

Amy Ingle (00:00)
Welcome to Glow Up and Get Real. I'm the Sweet Face Injector and today I have Dr. Amber Shaffer She has been a nurse for 12 years, started as an x-ray tech in 2005, became an RN with her BSN in 2013 and got her doctorate, her DNP in 2023. She has been injecting multiple clients in Southwest Florida and she knows what she.

does. She is an expert in lip injections and also facial contouring and balancing. Hi Amber, how are you?

Amber (00:34)
doing well. Thank you. How are you?

Amy Ingle (00:36)
Good, thanks for coming on. ⁓ I have some questions. We're gonna talk about some funny things that's happened in the spa with you and me and ⁓ just kinda go through some of the questions we hear from our clients as well as some questions that we hear outside of the spa. So you're ready to get started? Okay, let's do it, let's do it.

Amber (00:37)
Thank you.

Absolutely.

Amy Ingle (01:27)
gonna start with the first question. Have you ever had a client ask, will I look like a doctor of lip fillers? How did you respond?

Amber (01:35)
almost everyone I inject with lip filler are always questioning, even with the lip flip. So I tell them just simply, no, I'm not gonna let you look like a duck. Simple, yeah.

Amy Ingle (01:40)
Yes.

Yeah,

the lip flip is always a good thing to start first. No one's had lip fillers before. Kind of give them a little taste of a little bit of a volume increase. Don't you agree? Yeah, yeah, because so many people are scared to make that first jump into getting a little volume in their lips. So they go, lip flip is perfect. And we use usually Jeuveau, Botox to put a couple of units in the top part of the lip.

Amber (01:58)
Yes, absolutely.

Okay, right.

Amy Ingle (02:13)
and it just relaxes that orbicularis, oris, to kind of do a little flip and give a little volume, but it does not look ducky. But how do you not make patients ducky with filler? Because that can happen.

Amber (02:26)
Well, I don't go above and beyond one syringe. That's the first thing. Usually when I complete the lips I have some filler left over that they can just come back and get a touch up if they need to. I definitely to prevent sausage lips as well. I don't go to the corners here because that just looks unnatural. Yeah.

Amy Ingle (02:46)
Okay, all right.

Clients ask me all the time to do that though. They're like, I want to figure out here. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Okay.

Amber (02:50)
⁓ I try to avoid that like I'll go like from the outer nose here down I don't

because I feel like it does look like sausage after a while

Amy Ingle (03:03)
It can.

Yeah, it can look like a sausage roll. A little weenie.

Amber (03:06)
Yeah,

exactly. that and I go straight down depending so all people that want the natural lip and so I have done it to where I go sideways within the lip but then if I want if people want ⁓ more of a pout I'll go like down.

Amy Ingle (03:13)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. So you'll do fencing with a pout, and you'll do like a linear along the wet-dry border. Okay. All right, cool. Mm-hmm.

Amber (03:30)
Yes.

Yeah, yeah, for that natural look. That kind

of avoids the duck lip if you're going this way. You don't get it this way, but yeah.

Amy Ingle (03:43)
fencing. Yeah,

you have to be really careful. You don't put too much in or you can totally make a duck lip with fencing if you drop too much filler at the top of the at the vermilion border. Yeah, I agree. I agree. have you ever had anyone pass out?

Amber (03:47)
Exactly.

you

Amy Ingle (03:57)
What do you do for that? I just tell my clients, if you pass out, I'm just going to keep going. You won't feel a thing. And by the time you wake up, voila, you're done. Yes.

Amber (03:57)
I had had two and four! gosh. ⁓

Yeah, it's all the same. They all do the same. So I at the one time before I got smelling salts for the ammonia, I had to do the sternal rub with my knuckle because that is very unpleasant and that'll wake people up. And then once they're up,

Amy Ingle (04:21)
Yes. Good. Good move.

Mm-hmm.

Amber (04:30)
they're gonna puke. So I go and get the trash can. And then after that, and I feel like they're good. And obviously I get them a wet washcloth for back here and ice packs and such. Then I assist them to the bathroom because they gotta go number two. Yeah, it happens every time. Every time someone passes out, it's like, yep, I know what's next. It's all the same.

Amy Ingle (04:31)
⁓ fun. boy.

Okay. Mm-hmm.

Lovely, lovely. I you're working in the hospital again.

Now I haven't had anyone go to that extent. I've had lots of people pass out, but not I've never had anyone throw up. Yeah. boy. boy. Well, I usually I usually catch it. I know when I'm injecting I just stay aware of the color of their lips if they start to look a little pale if they their eyes start to bat a little bit like you have funny eye movement.

Amber (04:58)
I'm going to take a

Really? ⁓ I have!

Yes.

Yeah.

Amy Ingle (05:24)
They start to sweat, sweat. So then I'll stop. I'll say, take a breath. If I see them doing it, I make them start deep breathing because they can get out of it quicker if you catch it and have them start to breathe. Because they hold their breath because they're nervous or they're just afraid and it's just about holding their breath. It's all, it's all kind of mental. It's very bizarre, but yeah, you know, as long as you know, we know what.

Amber (05:25)
Yeah.

Great. Yes.

Yeah.

Amy Ingle (05:50)
what signs to look for and try to stop it from continuing. If they do pass out, it's not a big deal. We know how to handle that. There's always 911 if we have to call 911, which we've never had to do. Now, now, now we've saved their lives. No, it's, but I always put it in the chart as a pop-up client app to, yeah, to passing out syncope episode.

Amber (06:12)
Yeah, syncopal episodes

Amy Ingle (06:14)
Yep,

Amber (06:15)
or vagal.

Amy Ingle (06:16)
vagal, vagal Mm-hmm, yep, yep. What is the funniest reaction you've seen when a client first looks in the mirror after getting fillers? Any funny reactions?

Amber (06:26)
Funny.

No, not really. Not funny. They're just like, ⁓ I love this. Or, you know, that's pretty much it.

Amy Ingle (06:35)
Have you ever had someone cry?

Amber (06:36)
not because of that but for the pain. the. I haven't. but she was she came in like weeks later. The one client who her cheek filler migrated down. I don't know what happened. No idea. But do you remember her crying? Yeah. ⁓

Amy Ingle (06:39)
really? Is that supposed to hurt?

Mm-hmm. Yeah, he's

upset about that, which was fixable. There's no reason to cry. We can always fix things. Yeah, so I have had some clients cry after I've treated them with filler because they were so joyous. ⁓ I've done a lot of correction on lips. I have a client, a couple clients actually that have had Mohs surgery and so by correcting some of the

Amber (06:59)
All

Right, exactly.

⁓

Amy Ingle (07:21)
⁓ irregular borders and some of the tissue that's been biopsied out that never filled in. I've been able to correct some of that in the symmetry along with Bell's Palsy And I've had some people cry because they were crying with joy that that they had improvement, which that is that is so like rewarding. I think that's the best rewarding piece of working in a medical spa is that type of client. Yeah, it's

Amber (07:39)
I it.

Hurry up.

Yeah, I haven't had

them cry, but they'll be overjoyed.

Amy Ingle (07:52)
Yeah, yeah.

What was the most unusual request you've received for filler placement?

Amber (07:56)
Hmm. Unusual request. I mean, to me, a bio-stimulator in the rear is not unusual to me. Yes. Yeah. Nope. Nope. I just have to say the weirdest thing, and it's not really filler, was the Kybella to the cheeks. I haven't had any weird requests.

Amy Ingle (08:04)
Yeah, that's not really unusual.

Amber (08:19)
I mean, and then like unsafe requests where I told you like people will want that line filled with filler and that all depends on the client. Cause yeah, that's unsafe.

Amy Ingle (08:19)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah, I think my, I can't really think of, well, I've had some clients ask me if I would put filler in their forehead, a high forehead. They have asked me to do a brow lift with filler before and I have done that. I have done that. That was a long time ago. I haven't done it since, but yeah, I did do a little lift with some filler right at the tip of the tail.

Amber (08:48)
I have not. Wow, Amy. Okay.

Amy Ingle (08:57)
I also, you know, ear lobes, was going to say that's one of my favorite things to do, is fill ear lobes. It's just, it's just magic. It's like you put it in there and the ear just looks so much younger. It's amazing. I don't, I can't think of anything off hand that's really bizarre. You know, we'll fill anything. We really will. I have, ⁓ I have been asked to put filler in a penis before. And I said no.

Amber (08:57)
to the ear.

⁓ That was fun. Yeah.

Yeah, it's so easy.

See,

I have not done any of that, that's usually your territory.

Amy Ingle (09:22)
I said no.

I know it's a thing,

I know it's a thing, but I won't. It's too vascular. There's too many pieces going on down there. I'm not comfortable with that. So you can go to Miami for that kind of thing. They do it there. Go to Miami. They're crazy over there. They'll do anything. and I won't fill noses. I won't do it. I would love to do it, but I just don't think that that's safe.

Amber (09:34)
Yeah

Yeah, and I guess that'll put filler to filler.

Amy Ingle (09:52)
If I always say if I can't take them to the OR to fix it, I don't need to be doing it. So I can't fix it.

Amber (09:56)
Right.

You remember that training in France? That was cool.

Amy Ingle (10:00)
Yes, we get

that was cool. We got to fill all kinds of things with Evolysse I always want to say Evalice, Evolysse, the new filler. We got to fill noses and temples with cannulas and needles and did all kinds of cool things on the cadaver at the university in Paris. That was amazing. Yeah, that was great.

Amber (10:06)
Liss! Have a Liss!

Yeah, that was cool.

Yes.

Amy Ingle (10:21)
okay, so let's see. I know I have so many questions to ask you and you have a lot of funny stories to tell because I've heard some of them. I know has a client ever tried to move their forehead right after Botox and said, is it working yet?

Amber (10:28)
you

No!

Amy Ingle (10:36)
And what do you say about that?

Amber (10:38)
It takes time.

Oh my goodness. it all depends. So I actually had, you remember when I, long time ago, gave my phone number out, never doing that again. And a client texted me at 1130 at night to tell me that her Botox didn't kick in. And I did it like the day before. Like it doesn't work like that. So.

Amy Ingle (10:41)
Have you had somebody do that?

Mm-hmm.

Yeah, I

have heard that it can kick in within 24 hours. It's very rare, but not Botox. I'm talking like Daxify and Jeuveau I have heard that and I kind of can believe it, but only if they're naive and they've not really had toxin before. Not someone that's had it for years. I don't believe that works, but yeah, I've had some people that said they felt it immediately work.

Amber (11:06)
Yeah, he was Botox.

Yeah.

Yes, I've had people say that, yeah.

Amy Ingle (11:27)
And in the

car, boom, was working pretty good on the way home. That is not really typical, but if that's what they want to think, I'm excited for them and I am glad. I'm glad they feel that way. But it's usually what they're feeling is the pressure of the fluid that's been injected into the muscle. So that's what they're feeling. It's not actually working yet.

Amber (11:33)
Right.

Yeah, I'm sick.

Right.

Amy Ingle (11:52)
It does take time, like three to five to 14 days. So, you know, they gotta wait. What's the most creative way a client has tried to describe the look they want?

Amber (12:02)
most creative way. Oh gosh. So when they pull out their phone and then they are like, well in the lighting when I'm looking at it, like no joke, I've had people say like in 30 degree, what in the shade when there's a shade. So it's just, I don't know.

Amy Ingle (12:02)
That's a hard question. Yeah.

Amber (12:23)
They always have their phone and in the comparison, I have this shadowing or I have this depression that shows when the sun is at an angle. Hey, I don't see it, you're right, I'll look for it. ⁓

Amy Ingle (12:34)
Mm-hmm. I hear that a lot Yeah,

and a lot of times to it's like say under the eyes They may have dark circles under their eyes But I always do a skin check because if the skin is this color, there's really nothing we can do ⁓ it sometimes popping it out with filler can allow some of the light to reflect off of it, but

Amber (12:42)
Yes.

Yes.

Amy Ingle (12:58)
If they have some discoloration under their eyes, as far as the tissue, the skin, it's really hard to make that look better. There's like under eye peels that we do that helps lighten it. We can use hydroquinone, that can help. We can even try like the vascular laser, the 1064, the IPL underneath there to try and lighten some of that darker hyperpigmentation. yeah, it's...

Amber (13:06)
Yeah.

Amy Ingle (13:24)
sometimes takes more than one treatment and more than one modality to help some of those areas. So, and yeah, I had a client come in last week and she said, ooh, I have, see this divot, after you gave me cheek filler. So I took a look at it and it was a hyperpigmentation. So what had happened is when I put the filler in her cheeks to give her volume, the skin had already, it had that hyperpigmentation there naturally. It just popped out. So she just recognized it more because it,

Amber (13:47)
Right.

Amy Ingle (13:52)
her cheeks were fuller. So I said, that's always been there. We looked at her before pictures. said, it's just that you're noticing it now because you have fullness in your cheeks again. And so she decided that she's probably going to do IPL and try and lighten that. Also with some.

Amber (13:53)
Yes, yes.

They seem to make a lot of

it like right here. There's like this dark line for some reason. I notice on some. Yeah.

Amy Ingle (14:14)
Along the cheeks. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

I can, sometimes people who wear sunglasses all the time, especially in Southwest Florida, we do, will have a sunglass line. Have you seen that? Yeah. The sunglass line. So, yeah, so what we can do is just fill that in a little bit and then tell them to maybe change, wear those glasses that causes that crease on the eyes. It's like.

Amber (14:25)
Yes! That son is BAMIN! I'm sorry!

Amy Ingle (14:39)
It's like putting pressure on the cheek constantly. And so it's going to cause an indention. It's just like.

Amber (14:42)
Right. I've actually seen

for some reason people hyper pigment here with their sunglasses on right here. Like the bridge of the nose. Yeah. Yeah. They hyper pigment and they're like, wear glasses and SPF. How could I hyper pigment?

Amy Ingle (14:48)
Where? Describe. Describe where you're talking. Okay. All right.

Cause it's the closest to the sun, your nose. I think about it, cheeks and nose, they're like protruding off of your face. So they're like a little beacon for the sun. And that's usually why you get hyperpigmentation there more so than anywhere else on the face. And also we know the driving side, your left side of your face. We see more hyperpigmentation from that too. Okay. So what's the funniest myth about Botox you've heard from a client?

Amber (15:02)
you

Amy Ingle (15:28)
hurt all kinds of things. Exactly.

Amber (15:29)
Where do I begin? ⁓ Well,

the latest one is that chin toxin can lead to jowling

Amy Ingle (15:37)
Okay, so how did this client come up with that idea?

Amber (15:41)
she probably Googled it. I don't know, but I Googled it and it's like, no, it says no. She, she, I don't or TikTok. TikTok is Satan. I swear to God. Gosh. There is. Yeah.

Amy Ingle (15:52)
So much misinformation on TikTok and everybody believes

what they see. It's really quite something. No.

Amber (15:59)
It's not a credible source. So you can't

always go off of what TikTok says or what people, yeah. Drives me nuts. Yeah. Stay off the internet. Let me do my job.

Amy Ingle (16:05)
Right. Yeah. Right. have to stay out of it. Yeah. Impossible. Yes.

Yeah. So, ⁓ Botox in the chin cause jowling. That is a myth. That is not true. What else have you heard?

Amber (16:19)
Yeah.

what else did she say?

Amy Ingle (16:21)
Now we do know Botox and when we say Botox we mean all the neurotoxins. There's six that are FDA approved in the United States right now. We have, we use five of the six. Botox can cause eyelid droop. It depends on where it's injected and how much is injected. But sometimes other things can cause it and it's not the Botox.

Amber (16:34)
again.

Right. Right.

Amy Ingle (16:42)
So

I know people that have allergies, they can have a little bit of pressure in around their eye and swelling and that can be a cause and they might blame it on the Botox but if they start taking allergy medicine which sometimes I'll recommend, they'll notice improvement. Anything else?

Amber (17:01)
Static lines

are gone with one bowtie.

Amy Ingle (17:05)
I like that

one. That's one of my favorites. Static lines are those lines that when you're not using your muscles, you can see them. So say that you're just looking at someone's face and they have forehead lines that go across their forehead. If they raise their brows, they get deeper, but when they relax, you still see the lines and those are static. And so some people think that right when they come in and they get their first dose of Botox in their forehead, those static lines are going to go away. And that is not true.

Amber (17:07)
Yeah, it doesn't go away.

Amy Ingle (17:32)
It takes almost, it takes months, almost a year. It depends on how deep the static lines are, but they can make them look better if they keep up with the toxin every three to four months and not let it wear off. Yeah.

Amber (17:44)
Right. The repetitive

motion is what causes like kind of scarring. It's a static line It's just the same repetitive motion. So three, four months, keep up with the treatments.

Amy Ingle (17:54)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

That's right. Every three to four months is what we recommend. And I know it's like, it's a commitment. So many people come in and go, okay, I'm starting Botox treatments. And so this means I'm going to be stuck for life, right? Well, you're going to get used to it. You're going to like it. And you're going to want to keep up with it. Yeah. And as you get older, it only gets worse. Yeah. Love the aging process.

Amber (18:17)
Yay.

Yeah, me too.

Amy Ingle (18:21)
Okay, let's move the lasers. Lasers, we got funnies on the lasers. Okay. Has a client ever asked if the laser will make them glow in the dark?

Amber (18:23)
lasers

I haven't had anyone ask that. I wish I did. I really do.

Amy Ingle (18:35)
Sounds

like something my son would ask. He would ask something like that. No, I haven't heard that either. That's... no. What's the most unexpected reaction you've seen during a laser procedure?

Amber (18:46)
⁓ so I'll have a client, I had a client ask like, is my face burning off? I smell it. Like, no, it's the peach fuzz of your face.

Amy Ingle (18:56)
the hair,

you know, and use, ⁓ use a laser. The hair can singe. Yeah. And it does smell kind of, well, it smells like burnt hair when I'm doing laser hair. ⁓ it's so funny. I'll say, oops, you missed a place with the razor. Cause you can smell the hair that's above the skin that gets burnt. Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of crazy. But

Amber (19:02)
Yes, it's a very distinctive scent. Exactly.

Yeah.

you

Amy Ingle (19:21)
Have you ever had a client ask if they can laser just half their face to compare results?

Amber (19:26)
No, but I've had people ask like, can you just do this one little area and would it be cheaper? And like, it won't look right. Because that one little area will be like beautiful and perfect. then

Amy Ingle (19:39)
Yeah,

yeah, we recommend you do the whole face if you're going to do it.

Amber (19:42)
whole thing.

Make everything uniform, not just half-piece it.

Amy Ingle (19:45)
Right, right.

Unless of course we're lasering a lesion, you know.

Amber (19:51)
Right, right,

a scar or any, but just, no, not one little area.

Amy Ingle (19:55)
Not one, no, not one spot. What's the oddest item a client has brought to entertain themselves? Well, we see a lot of cell phones. That's not odd though.

Amber (20:01)
this.

Yeah, that's not odd. ⁓

Amy Ingle (20:06)
I had someone

bring their dog.

Amber (20:07)
Yes, I've had someone bring their dog.

Amy Ingle (20:10)
and

had their dog on their lap, which.

Amber (20:11)
Okay, no,

my client did not have the stock on their lap. ⁓

Amy Ingle (20:15)
I

am totally against that because dogs are not the cleanest things on earth. However, she was so nervous and she uses her dog as an emotional support for real. And so I let her keep her dog. But yeah, we had to kind of keep the dog. It was a little dog on her lap. We had to keep the dog kind of away from the tray. And I was at the head of the table, so at head of the where she was.

Amber (20:20)
Right.

I'm worried about that. no.

Amy Ingle (20:41)
What were you gonna say?

Amber (20:42)
my gosh, I'm sorry this like popped up in my brain someone brought in a snake and I thought

Amy Ingle (20:48)
A snake!

Like a live snake? What kind of snake? Like a boa? She walked in the spa with a boa around her neck? Are you kidding me?

Amber (20:51)
Yeah, wrap the...knock.

Yeah, it looked like

a scarf at first until it moved.

Amy Ingle (21:00)
So what did she do with the snake when you treated her?

Amber (21:02)
So it's so funny that she, Zoe had to babysit the snake. So, she did. She was very entertained by the snake, so.

Amy Ingle (21:07)
⁓ I'm gonna love that.

That

is crazy. I didn't even know this occurred. Wow. The things I learned on podcasts.

Amber (21:17)
Yeah,

sorry. It actually wasn't my client. I just came in after my client and I'm like, what are you doing with the snake? So I'm holding it for a client. ⁓

Amy Ingle (21:28)
my goodness.

⁓ at the front desk for everybody else to walk in and see? Yeah, not cool, not cool. Yeah, that's good.

Amber (21:36)
But I don't know why this I don't

know I don't know why you bring a snake but maybe that's her emotional support But the certain injector Yeah, the certain injector was like I I don't inject well

Amy Ingle (21:44)
Yeah, I don't know. Well, let's not have any more snakes in the spa again. Okay.

Good, good. Who was it? Wendy.

⁓ yeah. Good job, Okay. So got some more. What's the funniest question a client has asked while filling out their intake form?

Amber (22:06)
It's unfortunate that I do not get to see or I don't really converse with clients when they're filling out their intake form because usually they're in the front and filling that stuff out.

Amy Ingle (22:14)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Or

they have it done before, so you don't have any funnies on that. Yeah. It's pretty easy to fill out and, you know, it's... There's... Yeah. I never... Some people just... Yeah. Well, no.

Amber (22:20)
Yeah.

Yeah. sorry. keep them. ⁓

my God. Will my picture be on social media? That's a lot. A lot of questions. they asked that a lot.

Amy Ingle (22:37)
well my picture, yeah. And they have to sign a consent

for that. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And even if they've signed the consent, I still ask in that moment, can I post this? Because they might change their mind, you know. So, yeah. Okay, so have you ever had a client bring a friend or partner for moral support and their reactions were even funnier than the client's? Okay, tell me about it. If you have a story.

Amber (22:48)
Right.

Yeah.

yes, yes. So I've

had quite a few, so it's not just one client. It's the younger generation when they get their lips done and they bring their boyfriends and their reactions, the boyfriends reactions, it's priceless. It's absolutely, like they look more defined. Yeah.

Amy Ingle (23:17)
Mm-hmm.

They look mortifying. Yeah.

Amber (23:21)
They're

mortified and ⁓ their partner that's getting injected. I mean, they're fine. We put numbing, tropical numbing cream, so they really don't feel anything. But just to see the boyfriend's face on, see what we do for beauty.

Amy Ingle (23:27)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. And

I think men are more squeamish than women when it comes to needles. I know like when we treat men for Botox, any kind of toxin, they are a little bit more antsy in the chair. That's what, huh? They do back. They do back. They move their head. I have to tell them to be still. I give them a stress ball or two stress balls so their hands have something to hang on to.

Amber (23:40)
Yes. Yeah.

They buck. They buck.

Yeah, I give them the vibrates. The nerve diffuser or whatever. Distractor. Yeah.

Amy Ingle (24:03)
So I agree.

⁓ that yeah. Mm hmm. What's

the most creative excuse you've heard from a client about why they need a treatment?

Amber (24:17)
creative excuse.

Amy Ingle (24:18)
Yeah, why?

Yeah, what's the creative?

Amber (24:20)
Hmm.

You seem to jog my memory when you bring up things. How about you?

Amy Ingle (24:24)
I know. Yeah. okay.

So, well, when during COVID, I had a lot of new clients come in and they said, I was on zoom and I don't like how I look. So fix me. I had a lot of people come through, new clients and say, you know, they wanted to some treatments. They usually started out with Botox because they didn't like the lines they saw on zoom.

Amber (24:30)
Yeah.

Yes.

Amy Ingle (24:49)
And actually the industry boomed during the COVID error, which was crazy, you know, but people were more home and looking at themselves in the mirror every day and on Zooms and yeah, it really changed the industry, I think. I think also other reasons I hear, I just don't like how I look. I'm getting older. I don't want my husband to know, but I don't want to look older. So just...

Amber (24:53)
Yes.

yeah. There's a lot of

those.

Amy Ingle (25:14)
do

treatments that are very low and slow, start out with toxin, only do this area, and then when I come back, I'll do a second area and just kind of start adding on services to slowly show some improvements over time. Yeah.

Amber (25:29)
I actually have had a few lawyers as clients and they're like, I want no expression. Yes. I even had a male lawyer. He can breed people. It was kind of like very interesting talking to him. So he's like, I can't look angry because that will make the jury think that, you know, but I'm

Amy Ingle (25:37)
really? That's interesting. Okay.

Amber (25:53)
I don't know, I don't remember what he said, but I was just sitting there like, oh my god, this is so, wow.

Amy Ingle (25:56)
Wow.

There's a group of people we need to market to, attorneys. Didn't even think about that. That's interesting. Okay. Nice. Okay.

Amber (26:02)
yeah.

Yes, yeah. As soon

as they have that angry face, they're like, I need to be frozen so I can't show any emotion in the courtroom. And I'm like, I could do that for you.

Amy Ingle (26:11)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Yeah,

I have several clients that said they knew it was time to come in because their children told them they looked angry. Well, Mommy, you don't look happy. Time for your Botox.

Amber (26:22)
Yes. Yes.

Yeah, you look angry.

What's your next injection? Yeah.

Amy Ingle (26:33)
Yes, yes, yeah.

So any other like stories that you can think of that are just myth busters or funny stories? You've had quite a few. I know, but we need to make a list of them next time so you can hit all of them.

Amber (26:43)
Thank

you

Yeah,

I think like the only thing that I have because I was brain, you know, trying to figure it out myself and the IPL and the CO2 can possibly cause hypo pigmentation. I mean, that's true.

Amy Ingle (27:05)
That is true. That is true. I have a spot

that I have a hypopigmentation spot from the IPL. Yeah, I think it's better than a dark spot, don't you? Yeah, I can live with it.

Amber (27:13)
Yeah, I do too, but I'm fine with it. Me too. Right, right.

Amy Ingle (27:22)
usually a steroid is something that we use to help treat it. It's really almost once you, you damage those cells, you just can't really get them to come back. You can't tan it. It will sometimes get darker with a tan and kind of blend. ⁓ but yeah, there's nothing really you can do once you hypopigment. and you know, it's just something that can happen.

Amber (27:38)
Yeah.

Amy Ingle (27:44)
I think that mine was caused from the IPL. I was training someone and I think it was just a little bit too, the settings were too high, you know, but you know, my face is a training ground for all the vectors. I, you know, it is what it is now for a client. I'd be really upset about that. Um, so we do everything we can to try and prevent those issues, but that is something that can happen. Yep.

Amber (27:57)
Yes, it is.

right here.

Amy Ingle (28:11)
So what is your sweetest tip of the day?

Amber (28:13)
sweetest and I was thinking of one last night and I wish I wrote it down. My sweetest tip of the day.

Amy Ingle (28:18)
you

Amber (28:21)
Just love yourself. Don't be so rough on yourself with, you know, dysmorphia. You know, so many people are just so critical of them of themselves. I know I said that a lot with the self part, but I just hear these things, these stories and people hating certain areas of their face. And it's like, it's not that bad. You're so harsh. So just love yourself in the way you are.

Amy Ingle (28:42)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. Yeah, I agree.

Good. Good job. Now if the listeners want to ask you questions, how can they get in touch with you? No phone numbers.

Amber (28:55)
No, I learned my lesson. The phone

number I'm giving is the Sweet Spot MediSpa phone number. Yeah, so.

Amy Ingle (29:02)
Okay.

2397893098. What about, can they contact you on Instagram?

Amber (29:05)
you

They can. I'm under injector perfector D N P. And they can find me there.

Amy Ingle (29:13)
Okay, and I'll

put your link in there.