Episode 32 (Kentucky trip, Cody's retirement, Injuries)

Welcome back to the Hot Ashes Podcast – TK is off getting married, so Lee is holding it down at George’s Cigar Shop in Swansboro, NC with Cody, Chris, Roger, and Solange.

In this episode, we light up some great sticks, crack a few cold ones, and go down a bunch of hilarious rabbit holes:

In this episode:

• Bourbon & Distillery Adventures:
  Roger breaks down his bucket list trip to Kentucky – Buffalo Trace, Jim Beam, Heaven Hill, tasting straight from the barrel, bourbon history, and the wild economics of Pappy Van Winkle.
• New Orleans Stories:
  Chris talks about his work trip to New Orleans – WWII Museum, Jazz Fest, crawfish, gumbo, jambalaya, and why Bourbon Street is “the funner parts of hell.”
• Cigars & Drinks of the Night:
  The crew shares what they’re smoking and drinking, from George’s house cigars to Guinness, Four Roses Single Barrel, and even nicotine-free pouches.
• Tesla, Trucks & Road Trips:
  Real talk on Teslas, range anxiety, self‑driving, charging times, old trucks, gas prices, and why some of us just aren’t sold on EV road trips yet.
• DIY & Dumb Injury Confessions:
  Power tools while drinking, garage projects gone wrong, childhood BMX and BB gun disasters, eyeball mishaps, and why you probably should wear safety gear.
• Hospitals, Surgeons & Anesthesia:
  A serious detour into a wild case of a surgeon removing the wrong organ, how that can even happen, anesthetic horror/funny stories, colonoscopies, concussions, and psych/brain treatments.
• Random Shenanigans:
  TK’s wedding, retirement plans, kayaks, Ironman training, cold plunges, generational differences, and growing up pre‑smartphone.

If you like cigars, bourbon, dark humor, military stories, and absolutely unfiltered conversation, you’re in the right place.

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• Your favorite bourbon or cigar
• The dumbest injury you’ve ever had
• Whether you’d actually trust full self‑driving on a road trip

Transcript

SPEAKER_04 0:28

I want one to do all of this.

SPEAKER_01 0:34

Okay, ready? I'm gonna hit it now. Welcome back to the Hot Ashes Podcast. I'm Lee, and TK is not here today. That's not TK right there. So unfortunately, well, fortunately, he's got a wedding coming up uh tomorrow. But by the time this airs, it'll have been the Saturday before. So he's doing wedding things, and we are doing cigar things. So we're here at the cigar shop in Swansboro, North Carolina, at George's Cigar Shop. I'm sorry. Okay, hold on. No, the volume's not gonna be up yet. We're doing the intro. So, starting with what I am smoking, I am smoking as always a Georgia's torpedo box pressed. It's my fave. And I am drinking a Purney Hayes. Cody, welcome to the show.

SPEAKER_04 1:37

Oh, I get to be here finally. Yay!

SPEAKER_01 1:39

You always skip out, you never want to be here for some reason.

SPEAKER_04 1:41

I disagree with that. I think you plan this was when you plan these for when I'm not available. Always. I'm 86 from the show. You tricked me into today, didn't you? I didn't. I was sitting like on my couch, like, I'm ready, I'm ready. I made it.

SPEAKER_01 1:53

What are you smoking?

SPEAKER_04 1:54

I'm not smoking anything. However, I have made a life choice. I have now gotten completely off of nicotine. So I'm using alpha fully loaded or fully loaded, alpha 15 nootropic pouches. Play that three times fast. Yeah, right. So that's that. And then drinking, I turn the page. I'm now going international with Guinness.

SPEAKER_01 2:16

Guinness. I love Guinness. Yeah. They're good. People think Guinness is like a real thick drink, but I don't believe that that's the case.

SPEAKER_04 2:22

I strongly disagree.

SPEAKER_01 2:23

Right.

SPEAKER_04 2:24

Very good. Very, very good.

SPEAKER_01 2:26

Hot take. Guinness is awesome. Okay. That's what that's what uh TK would have said. Come on, man, get with it.

SPEAKER_06 2:34

I haven't been here for so long, so you know.

SPEAKER_01 2:36

Alright, and who we got on mic three?

SPEAKER_06 2:38

Hey, got Chris Rabossi here. I'm smoking a Sierra Maestro Tapacero and uh some nice glacial water courtesy of global warming.

SPEAKER_03 2:51

Nice, nice, nice.

SPEAKER_01 2:53

Mike four.

SPEAKER_03 2:54

It's Roger. I am smoking Year of Ed, which is through the Pravada Cigar Club. It's a jalapa habano wrapper. Um, pretty tasty. And for drink, I am drinking uh single roses, oh sorry, four roses, single barrel barrel string. Um I think it's the OBSK recipe.

SPEAKER_01 3:15

Nice. Now that seems like a good uh thing to jump right into your most recent trip, if that if that would be cool for you. Why don't you tell us where you just went?

SPEAKER_03 3:24

Bucket list trip to Kentucky.

unknown 3:27

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 3:28

So uh I was going out there for a wedding. I think I've mentioned it before. I was going out there for a wedding and got there maybe three days before. So I had all of that time to just explore uh the wedding was in Lexington, but we flew into uh Louisville and got to explore all of the different distilleries. Um, I think I only had four planned to go visit, but that four quickly turned into eight. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And uh yeah, I had a blast. And honestly, there's like so many highlights, but the top two weren't even scheduled. It was one of those spur-of-the-moment things, last minute, decided to just hop on. Um and anybody that tries to schedule tours nowadays, you'll see that they're sold out for like three months in advance. And so the the the night before, um, I just happened to log on to the Buffalo Trace website, yeah, and they just had nine spots available. And I was like, this must have just opened up because there's no way, especially the morning ones, they they're usually taken first because people try to show up early, try to get whatever bottle it is that's inside the uh gift shop. And so when you have a tour that lets you cut the line, especially if you have one of the early tours. So we got into that and I was able to um actually take my family on the tour. So all four of us, uh, which was a real treat because I kind of got to nerd out and they got to see uh kind of like what I'm passionate about, things that I'm into. Um and so it was cool sharing that experience. Um, it's kind of a tie between that and going to Jim Beam just on a whim.

SPEAKER_01 5:05

Which you wouldn't think that though, right? You know, like I for me personally, I'm not a big fan of Jim Beam. But I think you wouldn't think they'd be like on the same level.

SPEAKER_03 5:14

The big part of it is the history that you see there, and it's like a lot of it's just tied into American history with um the Great Depression, Prohibition, all of these events that kind of occurred along the way. Um and I think the really big part about the Kentucky part is uh just how closely knit all of these different bourbon families are to each other. Yeah. Like when Jim Beam had a fire, well, they were distilling at so at another distillery uh for a number of years while they were getting their still back up and running. And so um just listening to the history of everything like that, um, going to Jim Beam and being able to go into the Rick House and uh taste whiskey straight from the barrel from three different barrels at three different levels, and they kind of uh you get to see um you get to well they they use a whiskey thief, and that whiskey thief's been used for decades. So this is like uh an heirloom essentially that they use to pull whiskey out of. So being able to be a part of that uh was pretty remarkable. And um and I got to bring home a lot of whiskey.

SPEAKER_01 6:21

You sure did. We saw the picture, and uh that's a it's a you didn't see the picture? Oh you're in the group, aren't you?

SPEAKER_04 6:28

I am.

SPEAKER_01 6:28

Yeah, then you just weren't paying attention. Nope. Maybe you weren't paying attention when we said we were recording all those times. Maybe that's why.

SPEAKER_04 6:33

For when I got kicked off the show. Whatever, you know.

SPEAKER_01 6:37

So your what your favorite place? Which one?

SPEAKER_03 6:40

Between Buffalo Trace and Jim Beam. It really is between those two. I got a lot of cool experiences along the way. I got to bottle my own bottle at um Heaven Hill. Um, but really, I think just the memory of getting to hang out with the family at Buffalo Trace. And I I think it makes it that much better that wasn't planned. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:59

Sometimes spontaneous trips can be the best. I wouldn't know, but the meticulous planner that's gonna we gotta leave, we gotta leave now.

SPEAKER_03 7:07

Time to go on to the next thing. No, we got time. Yeah, time time. I think that that was one of the best parts about it. Was we were it was relaxing.

SPEAKER_01 7:15

Uh we were cool too, like you said, your family uh enjoyed it too. You would think, you know, it was sometimes my dad would take us to places when we were kids and we're like, okay, this is boring, let's move on, you know.

SPEAKER_03 7:24

Yeah, you would think that, especially like at a at a whiskey distillery.

SPEAKER_01 7:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 7:28

Where like the kids are probably just being dragged along.

SPEAKER_01 7:30

And I think you turn around and they're all just this is great.

SPEAKER_03 7:34

They've been a lot more quiet, or either that or a lot more uh uh gravity.

SPEAKER_01 7:38

They slept through the night. It was crazy.

SPEAKER_03 7:41

Well, they were the staff at Buffalo Chase were amazing. I have a huge shout out to them because uh what they did to make the kids feel involved in the whole process, um, and just kind of everything along the way. My kids were getting answers right on different random pop quizzes.

SPEAKER_01 7:56

Yeah. And like you guys, you guys weren't even guessing correctly.

SPEAKER_03 7:59

No, not even close. I think one of the questions that I've asked you before was like, you know, one of their most popular uh whiskies is Pappy Van Winkle. Um, the most prestigious one is probably the 23-year-old. And so they were like, hey, we start out with 53 gallons of whiskey in this barrel. How many gallons do you think are you know left over? And you know, a lot of the answers were some of them, yeah. Everybody was like, yo, 10, maybe 8, maybe 15. I was like six, and my son was like four. And uh yeah, she was like, everybody laughed at him because they were like, no way, is it that low? But she was like, Yep, isn't that crazy? Four gallons. Like how much you have to make in order to have that amount for 23 years, and you're just sitting and waiting on it. And it's not like losing product. Yeah, exactly. Because uh, Buffalo Chase sells everything at MSRP, so uh MSRP for that bottle is 300 bucks. Um, and that's where all the flippers will come in and buy it, and uh if they can sell it for like 10, 12, 15 grand, that's what they'll do.

SPEAKER_04 9:03

What?

SPEAKER_03 9:04

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_04 9:05

Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_03 9:06

Yeah, especially depending on like whether it was like uh distilled by Stitzel Weller or if it was distilled by Buffalo Trace, those are all different things, but um yeah, just thinking, okay, so you know, 750 milliliter, what is it, four like three point seven liters per gallon or something like that? I don't know, dude. So let's open a freaking liters. I'm American 16 bottles at 300 bucks, you know, and that's like that's nothing to them. They're not making any money off of that. Um, but it's the the history and the romanticizing probably of it.

SPEAKER_01 9:41

But man, that seems like a big problem, just losing that much over that amount of time. I mean, there's nothing you can do about it.

SPEAKER_03 9:49

Uh, they even talked about the flood that happened last year. So the amount of barrels that they lost just from the flood, uh, and they like went in and tested all of them just to see if there was any uh water that seeped into the barrel and whatnot. Um, they lost a bunch of them. And imagine just sitting on that product for years and you're like, well, that's out the door. You can't use that anymore.

SPEAKER_01 10:08

Just just like that.

SPEAKER_03 10:09

Just like that. But it was pretty cool looking at the sides of the walls and seeing where the water rose to. Um, that that was pretty gnarly. Pretty cool. Yeah, but there, but yeah, the again the staff were super nice, and there were uh my uh the one leading our tour guide was a historian. And so she was a historian by trade and then just started getting into whiskey, really liked it, started working at Buffalo Chase, and she's been there for like eight or nine years. Um, but she was super inclusive with the kids. We went to the bottle bottling line on a weekend, which typically they're not bottling anything, but they happen to be uh catching up from Easter. And so they were bottling blattons and they gave the kids like the toppers and all that stuff. And um, yeah, it was it was hot, yeah, right? I would probably that's a CPS call, but here's a daddy cup, here's a kid. Well, actually, we we had the tasting, and instead of whiskey being given to them, they make their own root beer there. Oh, cool, and so they gave the kids like root beer and chocolates and stuff, and they kind of went along with the tasting.

SPEAKER_01 11:10

That's pretty neat. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it keeps them in, you know, keeps them engaged. They're not completely bored like we would have been if they hadn't done that.

SPEAKER_02 11:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:19

And uh you, Chris, just went on a trip too, right?

SPEAKER_06 11:22

Yeah, just uh work trip uh to New Orleans, but did have an opportunity to get out and enjoy the city. I don't drink anymore, so I stayed over in the uh arts and warehouse district, which my hotel was right next door to the World War II Museum, which was outstanding. Uh it's really cool how it's set up. It's three or four massive buildings, but the main entrance you go in and you sit in a rail car looks like a rail car from the 40s, and you get the feel of going off the war, you know, going to boot camp, and then you transition over to the Pacific Theater, the European theater, and the level of detail and the level of information in there. Uh it was it was fantastic. It was just yeah, I mean, I've studied World War II all my life, but you still see new things, new artifacts, new ideas there. So it's definitely worth worth a trip. Absolutely. Nice. But yeah, I spent the bulk of my time down on Magazine Street and I lucked out because uh big jazz festival, one of the big jazz festivals that New Orleans has every year, and I just happened to start that Thursday. I was there from uh last Tuesday, last Saturday, so it was cool to catch the jazz festival. That'd be neat. Yeah, the restaurant I stayed at had a uh awesome uh balcony, and I thought they were you know charging for VIP CD and they weren't. So I was right across the street from the main stage and just got to enjoy the music and have a conversation with an old buddy of mine from Okinawa. The food in New Orleans is amazing. And I ate nothing but crawfish, gumbo, jambalaya. I stuck to you know pure traditional New Orleans food. Okay, I was paid you know tourist dollars, but it was still really awesome.

SPEAKER_03 13:05

Um did you go to uh Cafe du Mont?

SPEAKER_06 13:11

No, no, I I just uh you know I I hung out at a lot of local places, especially over in the uh arts district. It it's what's so interesting about New Orleans is yeah, you go to Bourbon Street and it's the the funner parts of hell, right? I mean, it's all crazy, all kinds of stuff going on. But then you go one or two blocks over, it's real chill, it's mellow, and uh yeah, so I really enjoyed uh that. And uh speaking of museums though, shameless plug, uh Carolina Museum of the Marine. Opening up on the uh 8th of June. And uh wow will be happening over there in uh Le Jew Memorial Gardens. I'm one of the docents. I always thought Docent was an acronym, it's not, it's Latin for teacher or guide. So yeah, we'll be doing that. Um that'll be really cool. That museum, it's uh it's small, but it's got a lot of character to it, and uh it's focused on individuals, not just the artifacts. Lots of great history there.

SPEAKER_03 14:06

So you're you're gonna be leading some of the tours there?

SPEAKER_06 14:10

Yeah, I'll be one of the guides. Uh they'll have guided tours, and then I'll be working at there's three galleries there, and I'll be working out of one of the galleries. And you know, you they expect us to volunteer like eight hours a month, uh something like that. But I'll probably do Sunday morning, Saturday morning. I'm a morning guy, so I'll do that then.

SPEAKER_03 14:28

But uh I think I think we see some heckling in our future, and we're just gonna go join a store.

SPEAKER_04 14:33

Yeah, just like I was thinking if they had an Okinawa barracks section, I could uh throw the hell out of that. That was my that was my jam for a while.

SPEAKER_06 14:40

We'll have the uh the unruly uh we'll have to execute the unruly guest plan, so that'll be cool. But uh yeah, back to New Orleans. You know, I work out at uh Hot Works every day, and I think I was at the founder's studio there in the warehouse district, so I'm gonna send them a little letter and thank you and everything. It was pretty cool, but yeah, it was a great trip. Um, you know, it's interesting. It really is a walkable city. I mean, I was about uh about a mile from magazine and bourbon street and all that. I took an Uber one night and it was like 18 bucks. I said, forget this. I'm just gonna walk and enjoy the crowd and enjoy the scenery and uh yeah, and the weather was as beautiful as it is here right now. Low humidity, nice uh cool breeze. It was just and of course being down by the river that you know that helped a lot uh too as well. But yeah, it was an awesome trip. Um, I kind of want to go back on my own without being tied to work or anything and just be able to come and go as I please.

SPEAKER_01 15:36

Yeah, that's always better when you can go back and visit a place that you're not like okay. We have a do we have a certain time, we're gonna be somewhere. What I was doing is I was adjusting your mic because it's it's it's the louder you get, the more echoey it is. So the more, the more like just talk like that. It'll capture you. Gotcha. Can you guys see a red light on here?

SPEAKER_03 15:54

Yep. Yeah, we're good. I'm just fucking with you. Yeah, it's on. It's on.

SPEAKER_06 15:58

Yeah, but that was it. That was New Orleans. I think my next trip, I'm gonna do uh a warrior uh float trip in the Ozarks. So a two-day river trip.

SPEAKER_01 16:10

And uh speaking of the Eriver Warriors, real quick, uh, I saw your I saw your pictures that you posted, and I saw a friend of mine who I was on recruiting duty with. She's a retired gunny, and she had posted stuff too.

SPEAKER_06 16:22

Uh, that's cool.

SPEAKER_01 16:23

Yeah, she's at the same time.

SPEAKER_06 16:24

Yeah, thank you. Yeah, that was the Jacksonville hike on the 11th of April. That was that was really good. Solid turnout. Uh, great support, great sponsors. Uh, Biscuitville, Tin Roof Tavern, uh Tequila Bar and the Angry Ginger all really came out for us. And uh, yeah, it was a great trip. Yeah, support. It was a great trip. But yeah, yeah, it was it was fun and nice. Just enjoying life now.

SPEAKER_01 16:48

So you haven't been on any trips lately, have you?

SPEAKER_04 16:51

I'm about to go on a hell of a trip here soon of life.

SPEAKER_01 16:54

Oh, that's right, because you're retiring and whiskey.

SPEAKER_03 16:56

And whiskey, yeah. I just started that journey. That's right. Congratulations on your gender-affirming decision.

SPEAKER_04 17:04

Yeah, that shit dropped. That's what that boom was the other day. That was my balls dropping.

SPEAKER_01 17:09

Welcome to the club. Welcome to the club.

SPEAKER_03 17:12

Yeah. We got a lot to teach you.

SPEAKER_01 17:15

I mean, I haven't been drinking a lot of whiskey or bourbon lately, but that's because it's too quick.

SPEAKER_03 17:21

Bourbon is whiskey. You know what I mean? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:23

You know what I mean. If I say whiskey, I'm only meaning just whiskey, not bourbon. You know what I'm talking about. Don't act like you don't know what I'm talking about. Don't act like you don't know.

SPEAKER_04 17:31

It's just as he drinks with his pinky in ear. No, that's Roger. And Dakota. That is it. And Dakota.

SPEAKER_01 17:37

I cannot wait to do it. Yeah, you and Dakota. We're gonna snobs. Yes. Zach too. Zach two. You guys are gonna tap cigars and then clink your drinks and touch other things.

SPEAKER_04 17:49

I like the can holding matrimony. You're all concerned about how long it's aged and everything like that. I have no idea. It's a question as to how long this has been canned. So it's all it's a mystery. It's always a mystery. That's what I like about it.

SPEAKER_03 18:01

All I know is that Guinness is the like uh aside from light beers, it's the lowest calorie out of any of the beers.

SPEAKER_01 18:09

It's only like four percent, four and a half percent, something like that for ABV. Is it 4.1? Uh, has any of you have you have any of you had a Guinness in Ireland?

SPEAKER_06 18:18

No, no, yes, me too, but it was at the airport, so I don't know. Yeah, I was about to say Shannon's probably got an asterisk next to it, but yeah, you know, I like drinking that non-alcoholic ass, and you know, people argue with me about, but yeah, it's just as good. I think it is. Yeah, he's been getting it. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 18:35

I've been getting those, and then uh the Heineken Zeros. Yeah, yeah, those are awesome. I love those.

SPEAKER_06 18:40

Yeah, and there's some great um a lot of the breweries down there in Wilmington Burial. That's another really good one that's about as dark as Guinness, and that's that's really good too.

SPEAKER_02 18:49

Lee, that's your bucket list bucket list trip, right? To Ireland.

SPEAKER_01 18:53

Uh, that would be a cool place to go, yes. That's one of the places I'd like to go. Also Germany. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 19:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:01

I've been through there, but like I haven't gotten to, you know, it's always on the way back from deployment and on the way to deployment. It's like you never have more than a day there.

SPEAKER_03 19:09

Yeah, you gotta go to in in Ireland, do they split the G as well, or is that just an American thing that we made up? Do you know what I'm talking about? Nope. So in the normal split the G?

SPEAKER_01 19:22

Yeah. Uh I'm not walking into this one. No.

SPEAKER_04 19:25

I guess I am.

SPEAKER_03 19:26

What do you mean? So the Guinness glasses that they have at the bars, it has the word, the name Guinness on it. Fucker. Um, the G uh the line that goes across right on the G, uh right there in the middle.

SPEAKER_01 19:38

Call it the G spot.

SPEAKER_03 19:40

You have to try to chug it, and you know, once you set it down, it has to land right at that level. And so you gotta do it in one try. I don't know if it's an American.

SPEAKER_01 19:49

You and your you and your imagine this. You know, all these little challenges that you come up with.

SPEAKER_03 19:53

It's romanticizing something that doesn't need romanticizing, but we fucking do it anyway.

SPEAKER_01 19:58

So we could definitely do that with any beer and just like but it's gonna chug it till you it finishes right here.

SPEAKER_03 20:05

Is it sacrilegious to drink another beer in a Guinness cup?

SPEAKER_05 20:09

I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_01 20:10

No, because I like Guinness glasses. You know, I'll collect them, and if I'm at home and I'm freezing my glasses, I'm still gonna use it. If it says Guinness on it, I'm not drinking Guinness.

SPEAKER_04 20:18

Throwing Bud Light in a sucker.

SPEAKER_03 20:19

Now you might do that. You you might do that if you're drinking alone, but if you're drinking with other people, are you still?

SPEAKER_01 20:26

I drink alone.

SPEAKER_03 20:27

Speaking of Bud Light.

SPEAKER_04 20:28

Have you seen the new Bud Light commercials? Like they are on a rebound for like a trying to make it like super manly and like the opposite of what it was.

SPEAKER_01 20:38

Well, America has spoken. They don't actually like all this weird crap. Yeah, that's what I was about to say.

SPEAKER_03 20:42

They're trying to bounce back from all of that doing.

SPEAKER_04 20:46

Yeah. She wrecked you guys, by the way. He he wrecked you guys.

SPEAKER_06 20:50

So speaking of transitioning, so what are you gonna do?

SPEAKER_04 20:58

I'll forever now be known as Corey. Nah, but what are you gonna do?

SPEAKER_01 21:03

You're gonna take some time off, right? Yep.

SPEAKER_04 21:06

And then no way. Uh this year is get a kayak. I will get a kayak. I now have to rebuild my truck. And then uh I'm getting ready for the Iron Man, and then that's it. Nice. That's the rest of this year.

SPEAKER_03 21:22

Mine isn't a pedal kayak, but I'll sell you mine. Oh you should use it.

SPEAKER_01 21:27

We all go kayaking, so you can use that.

unknown 21:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 21:30

You gotta get me out on the water. That shit's a pain in the ass to load up. You have a truck. I have a SUV, so I gotta load it.

SPEAKER_01 21:37

Oh, yeah, so you gotta load it up on top. I do like the truck with the T bar because you can just pull up anywhere. Whereas if if you have a trailer, then now you can't just fit everywhere. So it's pretty cool. I'll go down to Hammock's Beach, which I could fit with a trailer, but just pull it right off the back of my truck.

SPEAKER_03 21:52

Problem solved. I just need to buy a truck. That's it. There you go. That's the solution.

SPEAKER_01 21:57

Yes. Uh our friend Ed just bought a Tesla for his wife. What do you guys think about Tesla? Not a fan. Just opinions, you know.

SPEAKER_04 22:06

Not a fan. Local, maybe, but I just I can't buy off on like the long road trips and stuff like that. Like the charge time and yeah, I don't know enough about it.

SPEAKER_03 22:13

I don't dig it. That's the downside for me is that uh the mileage, the range that you can drive on it is is battery life too, just like these.

SPEAKER_01 22:22

Yeah. Yeah, his is like 341.

SPEAKER_04 22:24

And I think that's today, and then tomorrow's gonna be 340.

SPEAKER_01 22:27

But if you think he said it takes like 25 minutes to to charge fully, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 22:31

Right. You go for a pit stop anywhere and you just pull up to a supercharger station and you charge it that much.

SPEAKER_01 22:37

What about the whole self-driving thing? Do you like that? I love it. I think it's cool as crap. Now, do I think it's like safe? I don't know. I don't think that's a good thing.

SPEAKER_06 22:43

Yeah, I mean, my Lincoln's got that. No, fully self-driving. Yeah, I know. Not lane assist, not that.

SPEAKER_01 22:50

A lot of cars. I've driven cars like that, and that's wild. That's cool as crap. Yeah, but you can summon your car and it just drives. Yeah, now that that feature's cool. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_06 22:58

I've test drove a Tesla, and I'll tell you the power of those things is insane. You just have a lot of that thing. That is fun.

SPEAKER_03 23:04

Even then, you're just flooring it, clear road.

SPEAKER_01 23:07

Yeah, that's what I hear. So much fun. My brother Jared, he's on the show all the time. He loves Tesla, he's like obsessed with Tesla, and he's constantly, and I'm and I'll do the you know, devil's advocate of like, yeah, but you know, the range. Well, no, they came out with this and that and the other thing. They're like, Yeah, but uh this, that, whatever. Um Ed's Ed's only had it for a couple days. He loves it so far, but we'll see. And I was asking him, I was like, Well, can you do like can he do remote start? And he's like, No, it doesn't start. You don't need to start it. You just go. And I was like, Oh, yeah, yeah. So how do you turn on the like the AC and stuff? He's like, You just turn it on and it comes on. Like, yeah, doesn't need to walk. This, you know, gas guzzling vehicles. And I love my truck, it's an old, old, old, old truck.

SPEAKER_03 23:58

But uh you're gonna ride that so the wheels fall off. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 24:01

Even if I did get a new car, I'm gonna keep that truck. But I don't know about a Tesla, man.

SPEAKER_03 24:05

It seems like I mean, coming from California, and we run back for a little everywhere. Yeah, like you know, everywhere stops.

SPEAKER_01 24:12

You want to know my biggest problem with it? You don't ever fully own it. You don't ever fully own it.

SPEAKER_03 24:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:18

When somebody can take something that you purchased and dismantle it in any way, then you don't own it.

SPEAKER_04 24:23

Well, that's an even vehicle now. Like my I have a 23. You see what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 24:27

Just like you don't own your house because let's say it's fully paid off, you still got to pay taxes for the rest of your life on it. Right.

SPEAKER_04 24:32

Your truck is still you can probably tap into your truck. Mine's an old three. I don't think you tap into that sucker, but yours probably.

SPEAKER_01 24:38

What are you tapping into my truck for?

SPEAKER_04 24:39

I'm not.

SPEAKER_05 24:40

I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01 24:41

Oh, that's right. Yeah, they're listening. Is it just uh all entertainment? We're just joking.

SPEAKER_03 24:45

That's it. Yeah. I do think that one of the things that one of the features that I think is really awesome is just having cameras everywhere around the car for everything.

SPEAKER_01 24:55

Yes, because you get these nut jobs that think that your car is your political personality, and so they come and like the idiot sells and then they play stupid games and win stupid prizes. I love that. That is so satisfying to watch.

SPEAKER_03 25:06

Even something as simple as just parking in a parking lot and just people that open uh the amount of dings that I have on my door, just from people just opening it.

SPEAKER_01 25:15

Yeah, every time we would get a new car, Gene would be like, I got a new ding on my car, got a new dent. I'm like, What how does your you just you're just like a magnet for dents?

SPEAKER_03 25:23

It it's as soon as you get a new car, that's when people don't give a shit and just open it straight into it. But having the cameras on basically at all times, you can look and see kind of who's dinging up your car.

SPEAKER_01 25:34

And now somebody who would have just left over like, oh, it's a Tesla. Yep. Writing a note. Uh sorry, I did this.

SPEAKER_03 25:39

I intentionally parked next to Teslas now to help protect me if something bad happens, and it's like at least I didn't know. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:47

That is, but yeah, so if you're if you're just you know cruising around town, I think that'd be kind of cool just to never ever put your hands on the wheel and just make the car drive for you.

SPEAKER_04 25:57

And that was my argument with Ed. You know, it's for his wife, right? And she drives primarily around here. Yeah, yeah. Cool. I can understand that part of it, but like even the commuting to bases. Cool, like a lot of people out in California, they do that, you know, the uh temecular guys and all that stuff. Sure. But I just I cannot wrap my head around the the road trips. It just but however if you get it.

SPEAKER_06 26:20

So like when I test drove the Tesla, they showed all the stops from here to Chicago. But you gotta keep in mind here to Chicago is about a 15-hour trip. You can add about four to five hours to charge that thing up, you know, over that time. Right.

SPEAKER_04 26:35

And then guys being guys, when we're on the road, we want to we stop, fill up the truck, run inside, grab our shit, piss, get back in the truck, and then we're gonna 10 minutes. That ain't happening in the Tesla. Not with a Tesla, no.

SPEAKER_01 26:46

No, but the other thing, the other reason, I mean, you have to pay a hundred bucks a month just to use that feature of the self-driving. You know, so it's like, yeah, that's a new that they started that. I can't remember 21, 22. And then the the back that's ridiculous, man. That's like you're getting too greedy, man. Just sell the vehicle with all its features and let me go on my way. Yeah, you know?

SPEAKER_06 27:07

Uh oh no, money, money, money, money. Ask me a question tomorrow when I'm filling up my 2001 F-350, which I'm not filling up tomorrow. It cost me $86 the other day to fill up my F-150. Yeah, 38 times 50. That ain't happening. Nope. Yeah. She's getting enough gas to get me into Surf Stadium back and a couple other things, and that's it.

SPEAKER_01 27:29

Hey, man, but you know, uh to distract you from that, we just went to the moon. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 27:35

You've been sending me these videos and I find them hilarious.

SPEAKER_01 27:38

And then I'm like, they're great.

SPEAKER_03 27:40

He's got a point.

SPEAKER_04 27:42

A lot of them, I mean, I'm not into that stuff whatsoever, but it leaves you a scratch in your head, like, I see what you're practicing. But with AI and everything like that nowadays.

SPEAKER_01 27:53

Don't ask questions. We're conditioned. Don't ask questions. You get you walk into kindergarten for the first day, you see a little globe over there, right?

SPEAKER_04 28:00

Yeah, now you can tell us about the rock fellers. These dinosaurs on the wall, right? Right.

SPEAKER_01 28:05

Dinosaurs, because they existed, right?

SPEAKER_05 28:09

Here we go.

SPEAKER_04 28:11

Here we go.

SPEAKER_01 28:12

Bring it on. No, I just think it's fun.

SPEAKER_04 28:14

You know if the Clintons hear this, you're dead, right?

SPEAKER_01 28:16

Hey, we'll throw it out there. Allegedly. Allegedly, right, right. Not that our government ever MK Ultra or syphilis experiment or anything like that.

SPEAKER_03 28:26

They'd be worried about you spreading the word to our 130s. 140, thank you very much. 140. You're giving them ammunition.

SPEAKER_01 28:35

By the way, like and subscribe. This is an entertainment show. We talk about nothing and everything. And by nothing, I mean, oh, you know what I think is really funny about the nothing talk? What's that? Is we'll have a short with like a thousand some odd views on it, and then some little troll will be like, uh, what did what did I just watch? You took the time comment. I love it because it just helps us out anyway so much. Thanks for your comment. Because they think they're ooh, I got them. I'm a keyboard warrior, you know.

SPEAKER_06 29:04

I love those guys down there in the basement waiting for the move. Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_01 29:08

Yeah, just like I mean, I like I I do like the funny, uh, the funny uh comments. You know, when somebody makes a funny comment, like, please make a funny comment.

SPEAKER_03 29:17

Any comment, any comment.

SPEAKER_01 29:18

People are so clever, like we get we don't give you know people enough credit. They are freaking clever. You ever go down these uh rabbit holes of like comment sections of YouTube videos and things like that? I am rolling some of the things that these people just come up with on the top. One of the things, one of the comps, somebody had commented something stupid on a different video, and the person said, You sound like you've been vaccinated. You sound like you're vaccinated. Uh, it was good. It was very, very funny. Anyway, sorry, sorry. Get off, man.

SPEAKER_06 29:49

So I'll tell you, shout out to uh Christine, one of the astronauts, though. She went to Infinite Prague here in Jacksonville, White Oak High School, NC State Crad represent Wolfpack. Yeah, that is pretty cool, man. A local legend. Yeah, absolutely. We'll do our best to do that.

SPEAKER_01 30:03

And she has super like thick shadows for her hands. Nothing else has shadows like that because that ball didn't have a shadow, but her hands did. So that's that's pretty cool that she can do that.

SPEAKER_03 30:12

We just gotta get her on the podcast.

SPEAKER_01 30:14

Uh, let's do that. She's from Jacksonville. But then I'll be serious. Just kidding about all that other stuff. I I like to make jokes.

SPEAKER_04 30:22

Let me see your shadows. Get her to go on the radio.

SPEAKER_01 30:25

You can watch the video and you can see everybody can see it. It's oh yeah. It's clearly not that ball is fake. I'm looking at a trunk passing out. It has like CGI like letters on it and everything. Just watch it. It's it's uh I won't. Okay. TK's got to work his avenues. You're a blue pill guy, okay.

SPEAKER_03 30:39

No, I'm not. I just give him, I don't let that irrelevant stuff bother me. Okay. Oh, I thought that was the age thing.

SPEAKER_01 30:45

There's a reason. He's older. There's a reason that it is relevant. You guys both use the blue pill. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_04 30:51

Well, you gotta have you gotta have a life for to use one of those. I'm a red pill. Yeah. I'm a hermit pill.

SPEAKER_01 31:00

Oh, so uh wait, you were talking about some topic you wanted to talk about. Yes, you did before we started the show. I can't remember what it is. I can't remember what it was.

SPEAKER_04 31:12

Oh, it's not no that's right, that's right, that's right, that's right.

SPEAKER_01 31:16

So Cody is working on his garage, and I and I totally I totally relate to this. And if you know, if you've ever done workout in your garage while you're drinking, you will too. So I'm sitting up here and I'm just getting video after video of like progress. You know, he's you helped him one time.

SPEAKER_04 31:33

Yeah, yeah, the shelves on the one side, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:34

And then he's like, and then I got this, and like, well, look, stud, stud, stud, stud, stud. It's like, oh, he's getting intoxicated. So then the next one's like, Oh yeah, we're almost done.

SPEAKER_04 31:48

Like, it kind of leads into it. It's like, here's this, you know, the finished product, but this, this, this. And it's so I measured it just precise. Like, remember you called me the uh the rabbit foot? Yeah, yeah. I was like, I got it just right right here. Just this huge.

SPEAKER_01 32:02

Yeah, he did not hold that. No, and then and I think you forgot that you sent that because you watched it and was rolling the next day. Yeah, weren't you laughing the next day though?

SPEAKER_04 32:11

Yeah, I was hungry. I had I don't know how many of these. I had a lot of people. You did have a lot because you told me the next day.

SPEAKER_01 32:16

Because the next day we went somewhere to Lowe's or something. Something I was thinking over, yeah, bad. And I was like, How you feeling, buddy?

SPEAKER_03 32:25

This guy, the amount he I don't know how lucky you could possibly get just the amount of times so he'll measure, he'll do the whole you know, measure three times cut once sort of thing, and that's fine. But it gets to a point where I'm like, ooh, is it gonna hit that? He's like, I don't know, didn't think about it. We'll see. And it just clears it by like a millimeter, right? Everything was that way every single time. The whole project. And then the the garage door opening, right? And you were pissed off because our luck ran out. That was like the last thing that we needed to check.

SPEAKER_04 33:02

That was it. Where the garage door comes up at an angle, it's obviously higher than when it's flat, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so the shelf comes over, like we we measured it, measured everything was just right, except we didn't take that into account. Like, fuck, man. I was like, I was fully defeated. Yeah, oh yeah, I hit it. But I mean, Roger and his 50-pound brandy's like, well, let's let's do this manually, not you know, use the button on the on the wall. So we realized it hit. I was like, shit, what do we do? I was like, give me a minute. Like, fuck it. I just got over, like wedged it up with the ladder, screwed it in. Okay, it made it work.

SPEAKER_03 33:36

We we cut off a huge chunk of it, and we were like we were risking just cutting straight into drywall because we were using the the saw. Uh the saw. No, the the skill saw the skill saw, the circular up the door rock.

SPEAKER_04 33:52

He's he's like measuring it. I was like, Oh, you know, I trust you.

SPEAKER_03 33:57

You got it right. Um I was like, you want to check? He's like, no, I trust you. I'm like, oh my god, dude, if you destroy your drywall right now, you're gonna have I won't use any kind of saw if I'm drinking.

SPEAKER_01 34:07

No, I'm not. I'll drills maybe, but not saws. All day. Nah, dude. All day, man. Because I got a band saw that I love to use and every freaking thick. Yeah, it's the safest tool in my in my shop. Dude, I was using a boarded the blade only goes down, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 34:23

Yeah, but it I I see the amount of times of the kickback when somebody's something's like not secured or something like that. Oh, I'm I'm thinking of a table saw. The most dangerous saw I have. I was like, that's the same thing.

SPEAKER_01 34:34

And I don't have the thing on it, I just take everything off. It's like I'll be alright.

SPEAKER_06 34:39

A friend of mine took a board to the gut off a table saw. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:44

I have had stuff shoot off of that, and I I've also had uh doing the lathe, I've had things kick and hit me right in the face shield. Thank god I'm wearing a face shield. Yeah, dude. And I'm just talking like regular old woodwork, and like when I first started uh lathe stuff, um man, what did you oh I did have two plywood sheets in my garage floor, and I was standing on them barefoot with my 160-pound great Dane on there, and he heard a noise. No, I wasn't standing on him, I was standing uh away from him.

SPEAKER_04 35:12

Oh no, you're toenail toe.

SPEAKER_01 35:14

Toenail facing it. And he took off running that way. That whole thing slid as fast as it could, and it popped that nail right off. It was a I mean, it was still hanging on by skin, but I had to rip that because it wasn't getting killed.

SPEAKER_04 35:26

What's what movie is that with Kevin Bacon? And that like the door hits his toe. Is it the door? No, no, it's the fingernails across the it's a horror movie. Foot Loose. Is that a horror movie? It was pretty bad, though.

SPEAKER_01 35:39

Horror movies. He was in uh like uh Hollow Man or when he before he's a movie like where somebody's like they're getting stuck. Oh, you're talking about R I P D.

SPEAKER_04 35:50

No, this is like old.

SPEAKER_01 35:52

Or he plays a ghost or something. Uh well dang, y'all help me out.

SPEAKER_04 35:55

Uh it'll come up. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 35:57

Comment on what movie that is. You need one?

SPEAKER_04 35:59

Yes, I do.

SPEAKER_03 36:01

You guys could the amount of injuries that I've seen like from people just with powers, power tools is unreal.

SPEAKER_04 36:09

I have like, I think it's a stupid sense of comfort when it comes out, especially like drinking. You saw me. I was in flip-flops, I wasn't drinking any, but the other night when I was doing all this crap, flip-flops, drinking, power tools, not a shit giving. I was all whatever if it's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_03 36:24

You're like, I got my iPro on, we're good.

SPEAKER_04 36:26

Well, you saw me. I got busted in the lip twice.

SPEAKER_02 36:28

Thanks, George.

SPEAKER_03 36:29

Thanks, George.

SPEAKER_04 36:30

I didn't have my eye pro and my ear pro.

SPEAKER_03 36:32

Yeah, well, that day we didn't. Oh no, you're right. That way we that day we didn't, right. But I I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 36:39

I just I find uh an awkward sense of uh comfort with it. Uh it's just whatever, it doesn't matter to me.

SPEAKER_06 36:46

All I can think about in this whole conversation is the bunk bed scene from Stab Brothers. That's why, you know. Why'd you let us do this? It's so dangerous.

SPEAKER_01 37:00

It's okay that mine's not quite movie quality.

SPEAKER_03 37:03

I've seen people just their digits, three of them usually, like just completely like off. Oh, no, yeah, because it just like oh yeah, it just like cut too fast or it got kicked back or something like that. Yeah, well with the leg, remember with the orthopedic surgeon becomes a shark, ark the shark.

SPEAKER_01 37:23

Season one or two.

SPEAKER_03 37:26

The guy fell and he's spoiler alert, by the way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyways, um multiple, like I've seen so many of these like amputations and things like that from power saws and or power power tools. Yeah. I'm like, it's it's like the same fear that I get now of riding a motorcycle with seeing so many of the aftermaths of all that.

SPEAKER_01 37:50

And I'd say it's a very healthy fear too, because it as long as you're looking at all that stuff before you start. Like whenever I'm building stuff, I'd make sure everything's off but the one machine I'm using. I'm not running something and then going back and forth, and and it's not like I have a dust collector or anything like that. Um, which I should, but I I have all my tools on on wheels, so I have like flip tops. So like one side I'll have a scroll saw and then I flip the top, and then it's got like a sander, you know, or or whatever, but I have a bunch of those so I can wheel them around. So I'll take them out onto the driveway to do all the woodwork and stuff. Same same thing with the table saw, it's got wheels too.

SPEAKER_04 38:23

I have dust collector.

SPEAKER_01 38:25

Yeah, I need to get one.

SPEAKER_04 38:26

It's every flat surface. No, it's every flat surface in my garage. Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_01 38:30

And I have one of those blowers that you just go around and I just use my leaf blower. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Mine's a shop one. Yeah, I have a huskvarna one of those, but mine's a little shop battery one.

SPEAKER_04 38:40

Like the husk varna ducks?

SPEAKER_01 38:41

No, those are Muscobi ducks.

SPEAKER_04 38:43

I'm gonna ever say anything. Did you call them that one time? You're like the husk varnas or whatever.

SPEAKER_06 38:48

I mean, same thing, yeah. It's all part of the duck family.

SPEAKER_04 38:51

Well, I guess if you think so. Yeah, that would be a good one. Did you ever get to use the pellet rifle? I used my own pellet rifle, and one met its demise. Oh. Oh man. Oh, yeah. That's all you need to do. And I left it. I didn't know. What? I didn't know.

SPEAKER_03 39:08

Because You didn't know what to do with the body?

SPEAKER_01 39:12

The carcass.

SPEAKER_04 39:14

So there may or may not have been a duck there. I may or may not have shot it. It acted as if it may or may not have gotten hit, but it didn't look like a lethal hit. I was like, it's gonna fly off. No big deal. I think a friend saw this. So anyway, because I live in a certain neighborhood. But um there was three ducks originally. One got like shwacked, right? And then my friend reloaded and shot another one and got hit. Acted as if whatever. The one that got shwacked just kind of disappeared. Like I lost sight of it. I found out where it went like two weeks later by smell. Yeah. But the one that got hit, I thought it got like lethally hit as well. The the other one, uh, number two. But it was, I guess duck's mate for life. I didn't know this. And so it was his homie, yeah. It was the wife. That was she was just hanging out, and her old hubs is dead under the ramp of my shed. So I didn't know that. My girls were like two weeks later, they're like, Dad, something smells back here. I'm like, all right, I'll take it out. Go find out what it is. Yeah, I go turn on the old sniffer, and sure, I was like, Yep, that's something's dead. And I was like, Oh, look under the ramp. Yep, there it is. But I left it. And well, I not on I didn't know it died. D-E-D did. Right. And so, but there wasn't a duck in my yard for those two weeks. You should have found it and basically put it on a ticket.

SPEAKER_01 40:48

Put it on a steak, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 40:50

Put the head on a steak and then send a message. Send a message, and then take the meat and eat it.

SPEAKER_04 40:56

Well, I didn't know the meat and eat it. My friend didn't know it died.

SPEAKER_01 41:01

Yeah, that's right. This was a story about your friend.

SPEAKER_04 41:04

Yeah, my friend. Yeah. So it was it was back there doing his dead stuff.

SPEAKER_03 41:10

Missed opportunity.

SPEAKER_01 41:13

Definitely dead.

SPEAKER_03 41:14

I would have cooked the hell out of that thing.

SPEAKER_04 41:16

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 41:16

Have you ever have you had duck? I I would nope. Oh I've had normal duck, like just roast duck from the it's good. Yeah, I've had duck. Yeah. Have you ever had like the Chinese like roast duck where it's like got like that nice crispy brown skin?

SPEAKER_01 41:31

No, like on uh like on um a Christmas story.

SPEAKER_03 41:34

Is it duck or cat?

SPEAKER_01 41:36

Yeah, that's when they yeah, that's what they served at the restaurant. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's looking at me and then he chopped the head off.

SPEAKER_03 41:45

That's what it looked like. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you go to San Francisco and or any of these like Chinatowns, and you'll see the ducks just hanging there head on and everything. Yeah, just chilling, just hanging in the in the in the window for everybody to see so that they they know that there's fresh duck available.

unknown 42:01

Damn.

SPEAKER_01 42:01

Yeah, I had it in Romania. It was very good. A little greasy.

SPEAKER_03 42:05

Yeah, it is. It is a little greasy. It's still good. We keep talking about gamey, and that's it's definitely got the gameess to it.

SPEAKER_01 42:15

I don't think I got that of the I've only tried it one time. Yeah. But I don't know that I got the gamey because I can take a little bit of gaminess like with the deer and well deer.

SPEAKER_04 42:25

Yeah, a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 42:26

And turkey.

SPEAKER_04 42:27

A little bit, not too, you know, you don't want to too much, but it is kind of I think it's more of like a has like more of an iron tail, like a blood taste iron. You know, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:39

Yeah. Did you ever get a chance to try the deer baloney with the horseradish?

SPEAKER_04 42:43

Yes. Oh, man. How good was that? It was so good. It was amazing.

SPEAKER_01 42:47

Yeah, we had this deer baloney and it has uh jalapeno peppers chopped up in it, it's got cheese in it and everything. So we slice it up and then put horseradish, bless you. Put horseradish right on it, and it just burns for like a couple seconds and it's gone. But like the flavor is amazing. And I didn't know that I'd liked horseradish until I tried that.

SPEAKER_04 43:06

Yeah, of course. Well, you used to not like it either.

SPEAKER_03 43:08

I mean, you eat wasabi. That's what I'm saying. I like wasabi.

SPEAKER_04 43:11

Oh, so good.

SPEAKER_03 43:12

Well, I guess fake wasabi. Real wasabi comes from a root, and it's not like that same sort of spicy horseradish thing. It's very mild. Yep, it doesn't have that punch. No, it's super tasty. Yep.

SPEAKER_01 43:24

Yeah, I'd rather have the punch.

SPEAKER_03 43:26

Yeah, back to duck.

SPEAKER_06 43:27

Ducks usually prepare some really good duck on their it's usually on the specials, but they do a pretty good job of ducks in Jacksonville.

SPEAKER_01 43:34

Yeah. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_06 43:38

Yeah, they have some awesome specials there. I got a problem. Every time I go there, they'll have an entree, or I'm sorry, appetizer and two entrees, and I end up getting all three of them and spending like a lot. But they're all good. Yeah, they're all are but it's been a long time since I've been there.

SPEAKER_04 43:54

I used to go there when I was first stationed here. We used to go party there all the time. They have a back patio. Yeah, the back.

SPEAKER_01 44:02

My band played there a long time ago, back in the early 2000s.

SPEAKER_04 44:05

Yeah, that was kind of like uh at the time, it was when was our first year? 11 to 15, yeah. So that was kind of like the bougie place, the fancy place to go, right?

SPEAKER_06 44:14

Yeah, I mean it's one of the nicer places.

SPEAKER_01 44:16

Yeah, upper class. Sorry, the big old truck just went by. Yeah, it's upper class, I'd say. And by that I mean it's not a gun and nightclub. It's not a gun and nightclub. That's what I mean.

SPEAKER_06 44:25

It's not a gun and nightclub, you know what I mean. I I guess I'm getting way too many shout-outs, so you can throw your beer at me if I'm going too much here. But I'll tell you, um, the ransom room, that's really nice in downtown Jacksville. Right, there's three places right across the street from the courthouse. Ransom room, overruled Smash Burger, and uh the Clove Hitch Brewery. It's all in the same building, and they're they're nice.

SPEAKER_04 44:49

Well, that's all too close to one place that I don't like, and that's the courthouse. Courthouse, well, yeah. I mean, yeah, you probably thank you.

SPEAKER_06 44:54

Yeah, your picture's probably up on the wall there, so you probably want to stay. I'm not wanting. I just don't know.

SPEAKER_01 45:00

Well, my favorite place to go around here is 34 North. Oh, yeah. It's close, it's classy. It's uh there's always you know music or some event going on. It's a mixed class. The people that work there are awesome. Yeah, but I mean, I you know, it it's they've been great to uh, especially for hardstop.

SPEAKER_06 45:17

Yeah, oh yeah.

SPEAKER_04 45:18

They're not they're not definitely not a dive bar.

SPEAKER_06 45:20

No, no, furthest and from it.

SPEAKER_04 45:22

Yeah, it's not a good thing.

SPEAKER_01 45:23

No, it's a really good yeah. And now it's just like anywhere else, when you introduce alcohol to people in groups, there's gonna be some some things, but they have a pretty good policy over there. When you fight, you're gone, you're banned for life.

SPEAKER_04 45:34

Oh, really? Oh, yeah. Wow, I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_01 45:36

They also have a free shuttle, so they do they do a lot. Guilty is amazing. They do it not guilty. That's a great thing. They do a lot to keep people from getting DUIs and they'll they'll they'll take you home, they'll pick you up. And a lot of sometimes they'll even take you to another bar if you ask me, just just so that you don't drive.

SPEAKER_04 45:52

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 45:52

So it's another reason to uh you know check out 34 North. I'm not trying to plug out there. They're they're free awesome.

SPEAKER_06 46:01

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 46:02

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I never get to eat the food because I'm always playing.

SPEAKER_06 46:07

No, you're a lead singer there.

SPEAKER_01 46:08

Yeah, but it sucks because I'll smell it and I'm like, now I'm hungry because I ate way earlier in the day.

SPEAKER_04 46:13

Too bad there's none of us there that could go get you food.

SPEAKER_01 46:15

I can't sing if I ate.

SPEAKER_04 46:17

Well, afterward.

SPEAKER_01 46:18

Yeah, afterwards, I'm going home to have another cigar and a drink. By that point, by that point, I'm over hungry. I'm over it.

SPEAKER_03 46:27

I didn't know that the shuttle would actually take you home home.

SPEAKER_01 46:30

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 46:31

I had no idea.

SPEAKER_01 46:32

Depending on where you live, it goes all the way to Riggs.

SPEAKER_03 46:34

It'll go to your neighborhood. Yeah, it well, I didn't know that. So last time I played. Last time you played, it was like one o'clock in the morning, and trying to find an Uber or a Lyft at that time, non-existent. Like I opened up the app and it was searching for 15 minutes on left on Lyft. Yeah. And then I decided to um just download Uber because I usually don't use Uber. I'm maybe it's more Uber in this area. Looked on there, waited another 10 minutes, and finally I found somebody after like a half hour. But the staff there were amazing because they were checking in on me. They're like, Hey, are you good? And you got a ride? I was like, Yeah, I'm looking. Um, I'm on low battery. They're like a laugh, dude.

SPEAKER_01 47:12

There or something.

SPEAKER_03 47:13

Yeah, basically, they're cleaning up and and you know, packing all the shit away. And the fire pits that are like closing up. And I was like, I'm on low battery. They're like, Oh, let's charge it real quick, and that way you can make sure you get a ride. Yeah, they're awesome, dude.

SPEAKER_01 47:27

Yeah, they're awesome. They are awesome.

SPEAKER_04 47:29

Yeah, they've cut them out. I see them well, probably tonight when I go home. I'll probably see their their shuttle. Yeah, go through all the time. What's your face used for Friday? Barry, like she's probably like the frequent flyer.

SPEAKER_01 47:41

Yeah, I don't like going out anymore. So it's like I don't know. I do. I mean, we'll and we do every now and then, but it's like time to time, we should, but we Uber when we do, we don't do the shuttle.

SPEAKER_04 47:51

What is your cut? Yeah, I mean, it depends. Like, I want to go out to the island one of these days and just yeah, see.

SPEAKER_01 47:57

I'm just kidding, I'll go.

SPEAKER_03 47:58

What is your cutoff time if somebody invites you up? Whether you're staying five.

SPEAKER_01 48:03

If I'm already home if you're at home, if I am already home from like here and I'm sitting down, no, that was my cutoff when I walked in the door. Yeah, you better ask me while we're still out, you know, here talking. But uh it didn't used to be that way.

SPEAKER_03 48:17

You just no, back in the day you'd get invited, they're like, Yeah, we're gonna head out there around like 10 p.m.

SPEAKER_01 48:22

You're like, oh, like, all right, man. 10, let's go.

SPEAKER_03 48:25

Back in the day, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 48:27

That one day, remember?

SPEAKER_03 48:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 48:29

Yeah. No, I it's not anymore, man, because I'm tired at 10, 11, 12.

SPEAKER_04 48:36

Yeah, but it is like today, like we're starting to get fired up, whatever. Oh, yeah. I mean, if somebody were to mention it now, if I didn't have a gig in the morning. Are you saying something? Are you insinuating?

SPEAKER_01 48:46

If I didn't you guys do all what you want. I have a show. I have to be on base at 8 a.m.

SPEAKER_04 48:51

I thought they got canceled. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 48:53

Sundays got canceled, but we're doing the car show tomorrow from eleven thirty to I think you guys are performing starting at eleven. Yeah, eleven to two or eleven to one.

SPEAKER_03 49:03

Eleven uh at two either one or one four. From eleven to one, but the show is from ten to two.

SPEAKER_01 49:09

The thing is, yeah, and what happened last year when we played it, and real quick, uh, when by the time they give the awards, so a car show is nobody's gonna sit there and watch the band. They're gonna be walking around the car show. So we're we're background music, which is totally cool. I'm down with that, man. Uh, but at the end, when after they do the awards, nobody's sticking around. They're going to put their cars away and shine them up and stuff. So it's like, okay, do you want us to play for another half hour to nobody? Which we did last year, and we were just having fun just playing, and then a little small crowd started coming over. I'm like, seriously, we got nobody here. But we still played the whole thing, and uh, so we're just gonna play it by ear tomorrow. And then after that, TK's wedding. So I got wedding. I gotta uh jam from there, get home, shower change, and then get up there. Cold, cold shower, mind you, because my hot water went out yesterday.

SPEAKER_02 50:01

Oh, that's my life, dude.

SPEAKER_01 50:04

That's my freaking life. You know this. You know this. That's my life.

SPEAKER_06 50:08

Where's the wedding?

SPEAKER_01 50:10

Uh Cape Carteret. No. Hold on. Well, I can't tell you exactly where it comes from the air. Yeah, you don't want to. I'm not gonna do that. It's around like Emerald Isle or something. Gotcha. Yeah. Yeah, I have the uh information. But so I should be done in plenty of time because that doesn't start till four. We're supposed to be there, what, 3 30? That's what they asked. Are y'all going?

SPEAKER_02 50:31

To what? The wedding? Invited. I was not invited topwards. No, he said I he said at the thing.

SPEAKER_01 50:36

He was like, Y'all could just come on. He probably don't have your phone number. Here?

SPEAKER_04 50:40

Yeah, he does. At a show, he has your phone number that I wasn't now now.

SPEAKER_01 50:43

Huh?

SPEAKER_04 50:44

He said it what thing?

SPEAKER_01 50:45

What thing?

SPEAKER_04 50:46

You said he said it the thing.

SPEAKER_01 50:47

What thing? What thing you talking about?

SPEAKER_03 50:48

That's right, the thing. Who's when when did TK invite everyone?

SPEAKER_01 50:52

I thought he said it around the table. Anyway, he keeps telling me, he keeps telling me in salons, like, I don't care when y'all get there, just get there. Like, oh, we'll be drinking all night, man. More the merrier. So um yeah, maybe he just doesn't like you guys. Hey man, TK, weigh in because you're not here right now. And I'm trying to I'm trying to backpedal out of this conversation.

SPEAKER_04 51:15

I heard chicks like uh weddings, so they do.

SPEAKER_01 51:18

Remember wedding crashers? Yeah, dude.

SPEAKER_04 51:19

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_01 51:22

We're crashing TK's wedding, but he won't know it until afterwards because this won't come out till Monday, but he won't have the files till Sunday. And he'll be hungover from his wedding. So hopefully he gets this out on time.

SPEAKER_03 51:33

Cody needs to find a crazy chick like Isla Fisher in that movie. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_04 51:39

I could do this stage five.

SPEAKER_01 51:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 51:41

Let's go.

SPEAKER_01 51:42

Stage five clinger.

SPEAKER_04 51:43

Game on. I can deal with that.

SPEAKER_01 51:45

Yeah. She's a cutie pie, too.

SPEAKER_04 51:47

Oh, yeah, totally. Totally. All of it.

SPEAKER_01 51:50

Yeah. I don't know, man. Pour some cold water on all of us. We all got quiet just now. Like, what settle down, fellas. Settle down.

SPEAKER_03 51:58

Hop and lean shower.

SPEAKER_01 52:01

Yeah, take a cold shower with me. What smoke is? Like, I'm still clip that. You went too. That's gonna get a thousand hits. You do the damn ice bath.

SPEAKER_06 52:15

Yes, I do.

SPEAKER_01 52:16

And so I I've done the polar plunge. I've taken cold showers after like workouts and shit, but like that's when I'm meant to do it, not when I have to do it. It's like, fuck.

SPEAKER_06 52:27

It's been two and a half weeks. It's driving me crazy. They changed up the hours and augment. I gotta sort myself out and get in there again. But yeah.

SPEAKER_01 52:35

So you do the cold, you do the polar plunge, the you do some kind of brain thing.

SPEAKER_06 52:40

Infrared sauna. And then yeah, once I'm gonna start doing hyperbaric oxygen therapy again, too. And then they have uh transgranial magnetic stimulation. Some people they got that on site? Uh they got the PEMF, which is a little bit, it's an offshoot of uh transgranial, but yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 52:59

That's what I was thinking about.

SPEAKER_06 53:00

Yeah, I know. These are all these goods.

SPEAKER_01 53:03

Have you ever tried any of that on weed?

SPEAKER_06 53:07

I don't think you can.

SPEAKER_03 53:08

I got a session of uh TMS for fun. It was like five minutes, but shit.

SPEAKER_01 53:13

Huh? Well no, what he's talking about.

SPEAKER_03 53:15

You got whole TMS is basically imagine like two strong magnets. You know how MRIs can they pulse and do all that stuff? If you basically induce a current through the magnets, you can activate certain areas and so um so you can levitate and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I I can do that for you. I am certified for that. I I know.

SPEAKER_01 53:38

Can you hypnotize people? That would be so cool.

SPEAKER_03 53:40

I uh I'm not credentialed to do that, not at Lejeune.

SPEAKER_01 53:44

You would think you would learn that in your field, right? I'm just gonna keep walking you down this path until you take it until you take back over.

SPEAKER_03 53:51

Yeah, but they are um, I don't know if you guys saw in the news, they are um exploring psychedelics. Yes, I did see that Joe Rogan and all that. Yep, yeah, I'm scared of it. I'm scared of that. Ibigain, Ibigain. Ibigain, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:07

No, I begin the mean one.

SPEAKER_04 54:09

Ibigain's weird dreams.

SPEAKER_01 54:10

I'll be watching you guys do it. How about that? No way.

SPEAKER_06 54:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:15

I feel like with my heart rate, I would freak out and run naked down through the quad. We're going straight. We're going streaking.

SPEAKER_06 54:23

We're going streaking to George's.

SPEAKER_04 54:26

We're sure like shrooms and acid, like that type of psychedelics.

SPEAKER_03 54:29

Uh, usually like a uh psychoab. It's a it's a root. He's telling you it's a root. It's uh it comes from a tree. And uh a lot of Native Americans, particularly Central Americans, uh were the ones that um started to use it for therapeutic purposes. And so um there's some pretty strong evidence for its use in PTSD and OCD. And so that's what they're exploring. But I'm just nerding out. I mean, this is like my day-to-day stuff.

SPEAKER_01 54:59

So do it, because you we didn't even get your opinion on last week's thing. Which one? And you're the MD here.

SPEAKER_03 55:04

Oh, with the with the fucking wrong spiritual.

SPEAKER_01 55:06

Yeah, the crazy ass liver being pulled out instead of the spleen. This guy is going away. Yeah, I think in my opinion.

SPEAKER_03 55:12

I was thinking about it afterwards. I I think that the hospital would be on the hook for it because when you get credentialed, uh, not just hired, so they can hire you and then you start the credential process, and then all your uh skeletons should come out the closet.

SPEAKER_01 55:26

Because there's some kind of database for all doctors, right?

SPEAKER_03 55:29

You have to report it. And you have to report that.

SPEAKER_01 55:32

So then that would put the other two hospitals on the hook, too, since they might not have reported those incidents that he got that he settled out of court.

SPEAKER_03 55:39

Individually, he would have to report it. So whenever I cre I get credentialed, I have to answer a bunch of uh yes-no questions of like, have you, you know, been uh sued and some sort of thing.

SPEAKER_01 55:51

But why would they rely on the doctor to tell on himself and not the hospital they came from with the records of that happening? Why wouldn't that be the thing they ask? I know that when a when a military person goes to a new unit, you're you're looking at their fit reps, right? You're looking at all their stuff. You're not you're not asking them how how they are. Well, you are, but you can see through it real quick if you see a turd that's talking, but you know, I take pride in this, that, and the other thing, but just not my uniform. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 56:15

All I'm saying is that there's a reason why he moved to three different four different states. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 56:21

That's scary, man. Yeah. New fear unlocked. Isn't it like new fear freaking unlocked? Like, what do you what do you do in that situation? But nothing. You died. But did you die?

SPEAKER_05 56:33

But did you die on the line?

SPEAKER_01 56:36

And and I'm not making light of the death. That part is freaking terrible. But the fact that so many things were messed up in this thing, the so many things were overlooked, so many safety nets that didn't get used. Uh the the nurses on staff were questioning, yeah, but he just kept going. And so when they saw that I mean at what point can you argue with the senior guy in the room? At what point? When they're gonna be like, I know way more than you.

SPEAKER_03 57:02

I'm a doctor at an you can argue at any point. At least the way so it's you can argue, but uh the surgeons need to have a certain um sense of like bravado, right? Because they're going into it, they're doing the thing. Um kind of like you see on the pit all the time. Somebody takes charge, right?

SPEAKER_01 57:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 57:21

But that doesn't stop anybody that is inferior to that person from asking questions. F from asking questions and uh ringing a bell if that is the case. So there's not a knock and off procedure? There is. There is. I mean, you could easily just call up whomever in in the hospital on the admin side and say, I think that something's going wrong here. And somebody should have from the get-go. You know, when you know honestly, the one of the people in the room, whether it was the scrub nurse who really is in charge of handing all the instruments and everything, could have easily just like, all right, I'm done with this.

SPEAKER_01 58:00

Because it seems like right away it went off rails, right away. And then every bit of it was to try to like you know, like make up for that. It was just trying to play catch up the whole time.

SPEAKER_03 58:10

I'm just imagining like you're going in laparoscopically, and so you don't know where you are. You're just going off of the camera that's in there, right? And once you go into open, all bits are off. You know what you're operating on. And for the scrub nurse or any of the other uh like scrub techs to not say anything, I mean that's huge.

SPEAKER_01 58:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 58:35

But you know, and then that document that has everybody's like statements and everything in it.

SPEAKER_01 58:40

Did you read that? I read Dr. John had it the other day, and he was I mean, I didn't read the whole thing.

SPEAKER_03 58:45

I read parts of it and uh I I just I think that there is a lot of CY cover your ass.

SPEAKER_01 58:52

Oh yeah, because you could tell they were kind of like backpedaling the way they were exactly and that's why I couldn't really see anything.

SPEAKER_03 58:59

Yep. And so I think that there is an aspect to it to that as well. Maybe not everybody in there was actually voicing any concern. Maybe they were like dicking off and not paying any attention and listening to the music.

SPEAKER_01 59:12

And I think they'll have something to say as well, like they're gonna have to answer for not stopping things. But at the end of the day, who's responsible? Everybody is the surgeon.

SPEAKER_03 59:23

Yes, he is the most responsible right. Everybody shares some kind of thing. Right, right, right, right. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 59:28

Yeah, the way I said that didn't mean like he's the only one responsible. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, yeah, I get that. Just crazy, man. How do you how do you that just seems like and again, I'm not a an MD, okay, but I just don't see how you can three times get the wrong organ when they're all you know, every time it was just not even close.

SPEAKER_03 59:50

I don't even know what the details were for the other like bosses.

SPEAKER_01 59:53

He removed part of a pancreas on one, uh and that person either died or had complications for the rest of their life.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:01

And then he removed oh something instead of the adrenal gland. Remember, I said Yeah, you were talking about that, but I there's nothing in the so he killed one patient, he unalived one patient.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:14

The adrenal gland literally sits on top of the kidney. Kind of duh. It's ad everybody knows that. Jeez. Ad meaning on top, renal meaning kidney. So it's an ad renal. It just sits there like a hat on the kidney. How could you possibly imagine that that is something else other than what it is? It's like attached onto another micro.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:41

I just learned that the spleen is a little thing right here, and that the liver is right here. And oh and it's huge compared to the spleen.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:47

I'll give credit. If he had some sort of growth or some sort of like aneurysm on the spleen, then it might make it look larger.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:55

But he said it was slightly enlarged.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:57

But this blood supply for the liver and spleen are drastically different.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:02

Yeah, duh.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:03

It's everybody knows. I don't know. I'm just kidding. I'm flabbergasted. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:15

And whoever employed him knowing that he has done this before.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:18

I would not be surprised if it wasn't um alcohol and it was like some other sort of benzo, like ambient or something like that.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:25

A lot of people are saying that, like maybe it was drugs or or alcohol or something like that, but I don't think they tested him right away, did they? If at all.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:32

I don't know. We'll have to wait and see. But like I if you I can't imagine it I don't I don't think it's because of lack of knowledge. I don't think it's because of lack of knowledge. I don't think it's because he doesn't know his medicine. I don't think it's something's going on in his brain. Whether he's losing memory or something.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:54

Do you think you're saying that because you're a psychiatrist? Do you think you're just like he's in my field in my world?

SPEAKER_03 1:02:00

Like a nail. I have a hammer.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:05

Gotcha. Yeah, but uh, that's that's it's scary, man, and the guy didn't even need the surgery, it turns out.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:13

Have you ever been like put under?

SPEAKER_01 1:02:15

Oh yeah.

unknown 1:02:16

It's not a good idea.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:19

But I don't know if you were like like actually like fully aware of it. I was out.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:23

Well, I they also had to put me out so they could test it. So they put these big pads on me in case in case they didn't bring me back, and they uh they introduced a you know an unstable heartbeat so that my device would shock it back in. I didn't know, but when they were putting me out, well he told me he's like, you're either gonna get we're gonna do another, we're gonna put another lead in. If if it doesn't work right, another lead goes in. If not, you'll be fine. You won't know until you wake up. So I was like, great. And uh so I woke up and he's like, good news, it worked, everything's good. So I was like, sweet, because the new medication I'm on now, it's keeping me from knocking wood from uh happening again. Uh but anyway, yes. Put under a couple times, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:04

Put under, I have a couple times. It's it's a wild experience. I know roofies love them.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:10

I think that they've gotten so much better with anesthesia now because they can pull you right back out of it. Whereas before I was like groggy for a long time and waking up for a long time. Now I just feel like, oh, okay, I'm ready to go home.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:21

Yeah, you get to choose or the anesthesia anesthesiologist um will choose um which combination of medications they want to give you. So they'll give you one that actually puts you to sleep. So you'll hear on the pit. Um uh come on, don't screw this up.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:40

You got it.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:41

They'll give you rockeronium, which is the paralytic.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:44

He could be making this up.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:45

We know I've heard of that before though. Rockeronium, they'll give you um medications to paralyze you as well as to sedate you. And the sedating one, especially if it's like a quick procedure or surgery or something like that, they'll be very meticulous about which one they choose.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:02

Well, I would think that the the paralyzing one is for like throat surgeries or spine surgeries or something where if they move, it could it could be you know deadly.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:11

What I can do is the one flew over the cuckoo's nest, the shocking. Oh yeah. Yeah. We give that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:23

I can shock the shit out of your brain, dude.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:26

Um it's very anticlimactic. Because we give uh because we give the foaming at the mouth. We give the paralytic, so you don't see any of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So all the muscles are relaxed. There's only one thing that they do, which is they give uh basically put on a tourniquet at your ankle, and so the paralytic doesn't reach that foot. So we can see the foot shaking. That's where we know, in addition to like the readings and stuff that we have from the EEG, um, that you actually have a seizure.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:56

So that's cool because the body's not moving, but the do you remember the seizure one, the recent one?

SPEAKER_03 1:05:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:02

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We won't say anything more. I feel like we're spoiling a lot of shit.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:06

Yes, we are. We're so excited.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:09

It's a very good show.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:10

I was watching it and I called it.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:16

Please and thank you. Please and thank you. We're trying to get pleasant thank you.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:20

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:21

Thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, it's an excellent show and it's done for the season. For now. Yeah, for now, for now, for the season.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:31

So when was the last time you were put under?

SPEAKER_01 1:05:34

It might have been for that testing. Uh oh no, I had a colonoscopy.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:40

Was it gas or was it uh they put me under for that, thank god. Was it gas or uh IV?

SPEAKER_01 1:05:45

I think it was gas. Oh, it might have been I no, I think it was IV. Is that white stuff?

SPEAKER_04 1:05:49

That's not IV. Chris, you were talking about your uh colonoscopy.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:53

I had my uh colonoscopy last week. You gotta be safe.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:57

You need to go out and get one. Quit with the stigma that you. You can't talk about buttholes. We can talk about buttholes.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:04

I gotta look and see if it was benign or not. I don't know yet. But we'll see. But no. It took a matchbox car out of me. Yeah, they did a they did a great job.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:13

So the reason I ask is when I was put under for my knee surgery, it was gas. And I've always heard that they use like flavored gas. And so I was like, Thank you, man. I was waiting to smell it. Thank you very much. I was waiting to smell it, and they're like, all right, we're gonna put you under. I was like, what flavor do you have? And they said, What? I was like, what's this supposed to smell like? They're like, This is a oxygen bar? They're like, it doesn't smell at all. I was like, all right, I got you, fucker. And so I was sitting there. They got a thing on her, they're like, all right, just start breathing normally. I was like, okay, I know it's coming mentally. I'm waiting, I'm waiting, and they're like, just keep breathing, you're doing fine, and all of a sudden I smelt something totally different. I was like, oh, here we go. We I was gone.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:54

I was gone. You you you should have tried to do the challenge that a lot of people are doing where they try to stay awake for as long as possible. There ain't no staying awake. I lost. I lost fast. You try to sing a song or something like that, and you shouldn't have to be around.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:06

There's no staying away the words.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:08

I don't think I made it past one.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:10

I remember uh when I was on recruiting duty, I was coming out of uh anesthesia for my I had three wisdom teeth pulled, and uh apparently I was like flirting hardcore with the freaking dental assistant. I was like, hey, how's it going? That's doing when I was in high school.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:26

I had my wisdom teeth taken out and I was groggy, I was all over the place then. But when I had the recent ones for the butt scope and then the my knees, like like Lee was saying, like I came out of it, it was like, oh hey, it was the best. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Same here.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:39

That's what truth serum is. I just wanted to cuddle afterwards, but uh the last time, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:47

That's what truth serum is. What's that? They basically give you a lower dose of beer. Yeah, it's a right on the right on the cart.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:56

Oh, yeah. I could I'd tell everything. I would give everything. I'd be like, yeah, I don't know if yeah, I did that. Well, that's me in that video. We did take a cold shower together. Yeah, we did in my shower.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:09

Oh, wait, wait, this is a good part. Oh man.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:15

Huh? Anesthesia stories.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:19

I was saying earlier in a cold shower, there's no summer. No. It becomes an any.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:28

It's a mind game at that time.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:34

I know. I was I was gonna say something else, but I'm not gonna. We'll keep it clean a little bit. We don't have to. What's up? No, no, no.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:40

I'm saying just go ahead. Just go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:42

Oh, I was just you know, nah. It has to be natural. It has to, it it now it's now it's you know manufactured.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:49

All right, I'll bring up mine then. Back time for that. When you're talking earlier, like way earlier in the show, when you're like, yeah, I'm fucking American, I was about to say, yeah, I'm three and a half bald eagles tall.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:01

Americans will use anything but the metric systems.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:04

That's right.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:05

There's this piece of wood on a meme. There's a piece of wood on a meme, and it says like 243 dicks. It's like Americans will use anything but the metric system. And they're right. They're right. We will. We will. We've been conditioned to do so. What's up, man? Uh what are you gonna do?

SPEAKER_03 1:09:26

Yeah, last time uh I went under. We were playing football and somebody just backyard football.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:34

You mean soccer?

SPEAKER_03 1:09:35

No, no, I'm just food football. Yeah, um and I tackled some guy and he fell on my head, and I broke my uh orbital floor and I had a concussion.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:47

Jesus, dude.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:48

So I had to get put under to you know do the orbital floor. But the concussion I would say arguably was much worse because I was pissed off. I was like throwing up and they weren't taking me back. And I was like, I don't know. I was come on, guys, put me uh put me in.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:08

Have you had a concussion? No, I don't think I've never had one.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:11

I was young and I was just like, all right, well, if you guys don't want to take care of me, you guys don't want to take me back.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:16

I'm gonna throw up on your desk.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:18

I just laid on the floor and I was like, I'm gonna fire it. It worked. It worked. They're like, all right, you need to go. So they put me in a dark room and gave me a, you know, it's like the basin that everybody uh pees in. It's like a urinal basin. That's what I was using to throw up because I couldn't get up. But yeah, I was I wasn't spew, spew into this. Yeah, I was irate. That was like one of the worst feelings I've ever felt.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:51

My son had a concussion, but I've never had have you had a concussion? I'm sure I have. I grew up in the 70s guy.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:56

I think you're supposed to have a concussion, you know, coming out of the 70s. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure I have.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:03

I mean, I've I've I've never broken anything, but I've had some like sprains and crap like that, but like nothing that you know I needed a cast for or anything. My brother What's the worst or the dumbest injury you've ever had?

SPEAKER_03 1:11:16

Oh god. We're playing football.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:18

Mine might be the toe nail pop-off.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:20

We were playing um football again. Common theme. Uh, in a field, and I stepped on a bottle cap and sliced my foot open. I don't know why I wasn't wearing shoes.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:31

I was just gonna say, why the hell were you not wearing shoes?

SPEAKER_03 1:11:35

It was it's a tie between that and I know what it is, and this is gonna sound racist.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:40

It's an Asian thing. Because growing up, one of my best friends was Asian barefoot. This dude never wore shoes. We're on the street. I'm like saying, go put some shoes on, dude. We're walking for a while, we're gonna be in the woods and stuff. And he's like, nah, man, I'm good. He never wore shoes ever. And then he was like faster than all of us. Like we run. I'm like, well, okay, fine, I'll wear shoes.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:02

I felt so stupid because Mimi was like, why she would have to deal with me after I have this injury. And so she's like, Why would you even think that this was a good idea? But yeah, it's a tie between that and going up a wet slide.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:21

Like going up a wet slide.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:23

I don't know why I was like going up the slide, but you defied gravity, huh?

SPEAKER_01 1:12:28

No, it's like a blow-up slide.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:30

No, it was like built into it was concrete. Oh, geez. And you're going up a slide slide. I was going up a wet concrete slide. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:38

And as one does.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:39

And I slipped out of a rocket or a cannon? I slipped, and it was like one of those where I had all the weight on that foot before it slipped.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:47

And so it was just your face, didn't you?

SPEAKER_03 1:12:49

Yeah. And then uh I had two teeth come out of the slip. It just broke straight through. Oh goodness. Like through your lip. Oh gross, dude. Because I landed into the pool and I was like, oh, it's not right. What's going on here? I don't feel anything there.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:07

And so just blood everywhere. Yeah. Gross, man. Damn.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:11

And it's kind of cool, though. I have the opposite of your like rabbit's foot. Every summer I would get hurt during adolescence. And so my mom was like, You're not going out, you're not doing anything. You just have, especially with like Asian superstition, she's like, summer's just like a bad time for you. It's the year of the monkey. Like, mom, at one time I can play teeth with her mother. It was the last week before summer ended. And I was like, Can I just at least just go out to the pool? And she was like, Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:39

You probably tripped and broke.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:41

Half hour later, she was like, I fucking knew.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:44

You are you are cursed. Yeah. What happened? Well, I had Oh, that's when that happened?

SPEAKER_03 1:13:49

Yeah, that's that's when that happened was during the summer.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:53

You said that she finally let you go. Is that what you're talking about? Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:57

She finally let me go out to that pool. Um, and yeah, that was a bad mistake. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:03

So I don't know about dumb injury. I guess I kind of got injured from it. So I was a little when I was a little kid, I don't know, uh pre-12 years old, whatever that is. Uh we had to dig a pipe or dig a hole underneath our sidewalk because we're running a pipe through there, right? Right for something. And me and my brother, that's like our summer chore. So me and my brother, we're digging a hole down on the side of the sidewalk, and then we started digging in. I was like, man, this is taking forever. Oh my god, you know, it's like gravel and everything in there. And my brother, or I was like, Oh, I got an idea. Let's get the garden hose with like one of those pressure nozzles on her, and we'll squirt it through, basically, like erode it out of there, right? Good technique. Totally. I mean, it worked, it was great until my bride idea. I was like, here, you hold it and you squirt, I'll let you know what's coming out. You got your eye on the other side. I'm like, I'm ready. Yeah. I got so much shit in my eyes, man. It was out of this world. That was so bad. My whole family is out there too. My mom, dad, brother, everybody. And they are just laughing their ass. Like, my my parents saw this whole thing unfold. They're like, all right, you little dipshit. You're dumb. Okay, let's watch this. And the whole thing.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:17

When I was uh younger, uh three or four years ago, I was hanging up some ceiling fans in the garage, and I had one of them still running, and I thought, yeah, I'm good. I'll be fine. Uh took the ceiling fan right to the back of the head. That was a wonderful feeling. That was probably a concussion. That was probably a concussion there. But I mean, I've hit my head like it's like an aircraft and stuff when we're just walking around or whatever, but nothing bad.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:42

I've seen somebody with that, the hook, the hook. Single point, yeah. Single point come the the the yeah, come down.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:47

Boom.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:48

Right on top of the on the hard part. Otherwise, they would have been out like a light. I can't remember who it was, though. It was so funny. Now once we learned that he was okay. Yeah. But it ri dude, it's a big heavy thing that you it's a it's a brace piece that you bring down for the A-frame of a single point hook on a 53. That holds a that you put a pin and it holds a load like that.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:12

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:12

So like so this big heavy thing, you take out and it just and his head was down and went boom.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:19

Because typically it's it's supposed to have a like a fat ass, like a toe hitch pin going out. Typically, a lot of times those are gone, so they'll zip tie it up.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:27

No, this wasn't that. This wasn't that. No.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:30

I have a story for that.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:31

Yeah, this wasn't that. But it was still like, damn, dude, that's not good. But he was it was fine because it was on it.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:36

It doesn't even need to be moving that fast. No.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:39

It just it just lets it's on a swivel. It's like it's it's too big. It's so heavy. That's the thing. It's so heavy, it went boing, and the guy just falls out. Like, how many fingers am I holding up? And he's a marine, so he can't count anyway. JK, Simple Fidelis. Oh, that was good. Uh, mine was when I was a kid, we were in the front yard doing karate because it was the 80s, and everybody thought they knew karate. Karate kid, twonky. And my friend went to Taekwondo and stuff like that, and like he would come back and like teach us all what he's. He's a fucking brand new white belt that knows nothing, and he's teaching. It's the blind leading the bind. And funny that I called it that because what had happened was we he and I had a pole and it's just stuck in the ground, and we were like kicking at it and stuff, you know, like spin kicks and all this. He kicks it one time, it goes flying that way, and then swings back and slices my eye my eyeball open. Oh, either the eyeball or the eyelid, I can't remember. My mom or me, she I had some kind of experimental stitch that they had to do. I wore an eye patch for like a month or something. I got rushed to the hospital. And and yeah, and so I wore that for a while, and I was like, this dork with a fucking patch on what happened to you. We were doing karate in the garage in the front yard, you know, like do you know karate? No, like, but we did it, but anyway, uh, and then the other time was right around the same time where I was holding, I was inside my dad's van holding the thing and slammed the door closed as hard as I could, and my thumb was just in there. I was like, ah, I could get it out, so my dad had to run around and open it. And I was like, ah, and you you think it's like a cartoon, it's just gonna be flat. Oh, I think I teared up a little bit. I probably cried. I probably cried. Nah, I didn't cry. Fuck that shit. No, I did cry. It was bad.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:33

I was at my neighbor's house, and you know how to run the house. You know, back in the day. Back in the day, everybody has you have your BMX bike, you know, the pegs and everything like that. And my next door neighbor had he had one of the badass ones and uh had a flat tire. He's like, all right, we're gonna fix this bitch. Something was stuck. I don't uh we're trying to get the the tread off the rim, and so we got a flathead screwdriver, and we're just trying to work it off, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:18:57

Yep, as you do. Right. I know exactly what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:00

So Dustin sticks in there, he's like like right on it. Right in the eyeball, right down. It was like he's doing that, he has the eye of the thing, it's like in his eye. He's not blind to this day.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:15

But did he stupidly pull it out? Oh yeah. Oh no.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:18

I'm like, oh my, what am I looking at? Like 10, 12, whatever years old, you know, he's got the screwdriver in his eye.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:26

Oh no.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:27

He's screaming, I'm laughing. I mean, there's nothing else to do. And so like panic laughing or yeah, that's weird. Like stupid laughing because I don't know what else to do.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:37

You're gonna lose an eyeball. Loser.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:40

Unfortunately, we're in his uh his front yard, and his mom has she can hear her mouse fart, so she heard all this going on. She comes out, she starts screaming at me for letting him do this. He's dumb. Why are you letting him do this?

SPEAKER_06 1:19:54

Why'd you let us do this? It's so dangerous.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:57

So she runs him off to the to the mall to the optometrist. He comes back, he's got a patch on his eye, and everything like that. I'm like, You okay? He's like, I don't know, man, I'm gonna lose my eye. He's good now.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:08

Dude, I got I have the same, I have a similar, not the same story at all, because not severe like that. But get this shit. So we're we're about the same age, 12, 13, whatever. And we've had the good idea to play BB tag in the woods.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:22

Oh, that's a fun game. BB tag, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:24

So this little dickhead that that we knew, and everybody hated in the neighborhood, is sitting there just pumping and pumping and while we're pulling pump. That's no, no, this was a pump, pump, pump while he was doing that. And we're sitting around the thing and we're talking about the rules and stuff. This, and it was freezing cold outside. This mother points it right at my cold leg and shoots me right in the thigh.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:46

Right there while you guys are exposed.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:47

Oh, right then, and then everybody takes off running in different directions. So I'm like, I'm gonna fucking kill him. So he he runs behind some brush, and there's BBs, just you can see them, they're like flying by my head. And I was like, wait a minute. None of us are wearing goggles. So I was yelling, like, everybody stop. Like, I don't know what ceasefire is by this point. I'm a kid. So I'm like, everybody stop shooting, stop shooting. And he just wouldn't stop shooting. So I was like, Ah! I just hear screams, one shot. Oh man, totally lucky shot or unlucky shot, I guess you'd say. We all ran over to him. He's holding his eye and flipping around. It had broken a perfect circle in his lens on his eyeball, right above the pupil. The pupil was just the lens was cracked, it was gone.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:33

Oh man.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:34

The pupil wasn't gone, but the lens was like cracked right there in a perfect circle. So he he couldn't see for a long time. And we lost touch. I don't know if he ever gained his uh eyesight back, but he was a piece of shit.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:47

Karma's a bitch.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:48

No, you could tell by what he did, like, and he always would you know try to start fights with people and stuff.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:52

But uh so he hasn't seen you in a while.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:57

No, he has not. And hopefully anything else. No, I'm just kidding. I hope he had a full recovery.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:02

Childhood injuries, those were oh man, a lot of fun. We did a lot of stupid shit. I told you. I've I've told you some.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:10

I mean you did. I'm surprised that you're here right now sometimes.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:14

But like throwing 22 shells in a fire, we go camping, throw just a handful. All right, we'll see what happens.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:23

What the hell, dude?

SPEAKER_04 1:22:25

It's it is what we would just do stupid shit. Oh my god. We were not the brightest by any means.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:33

That's why you ended up as a marine.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:36

Well, probably. I don't know how I was a marine.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:41

Mike Four, we got Solange. What are you smoking and what are you drinking?

SPEAKER_00 1:22:45

Um, for the sake of time, I'm smoking a sweet Jane cigarello. And I'm drinking compliments of Cody. He has just started to come off of Coors Light, if you guys have noticed.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:59

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:59

Um, but he got a bottle of liquor knob creek, and it's whisk, uh it's uh maple something. Oh, it's so good.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:09

I smelled it, it smells very good.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:11

It does. It tastes even gooder.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:13

Yeah. Well, growing up in my neighborhood, we had like a gated little community out in Moorhead. No, we weren't. It was just what 92 when we moved here. Um and great neighborhood, perfect for like manhunt and all this, but all of our uh friends in the neighborhood had started to build up some uh some ramps. And uh and like we used to do things like you know, tie a jump rope to the back of a bike and hop on a skateboard and go through, yeah. Yeah, like your wakeboarding, but on a skateboard. And um, but one of the days that and I've always been conservative, so knock on what that is, none of the injuries uh were ever mine, but except one time I did step on glass and slit my big toe. But it has that's not too bad given the circumstances of who we were growing up around. And uh anyway, so our neighbor had built a ramp, and I was inside, my brother comes inside, and he's like, Richard, really fucked up. And I was like, What happened? I come outside and it's dark, and and his face is just covered, and I was like, That's mud, that's not blood. And they're like, and then he smiles and his braces are so jacked up, and I was like, that is not mud. I thought that they were trying to play a trick on me, but he just supermanned off the ramp on a bike, OTB'd over the handlebars, and just face planted his face, and I'll never forget that one.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:58

You remember the I don't I guess early 90s, late 80s, the TV show Rad or the the movie Rad is a BMX movie.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:06

I don't remember that.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:07

Anyway, so me and my I was like huge into BMX, and so was my my next door neighbor, the eyeball story, right? And so across the street from my house, there was an open field, and we built this huge like uh BMX park. I say at the time it was huge, it was it wasn't very large looking back, but anyway, we would we build all these jumps and there was a uh irrigation ditch next to it, and we'd build little uh offshoots, so we'd be jumping over water, you know, making it all extreme and everything. And my folks started honing in on this, and they're like, all right, and they saw I don't know, somewhere that there's these bike ramps for sale. And it was a metal frame bike ramp with half-inch plywood, everything like that. So they bought the set, and they're huge, like they they're probably three about that all about three foot tall, you know, uh at the at the pinnacle. Yeah, and so they had them or I had them positioned in our yard and everything like that. I was like, hell yeah, this is the coolest thing. And I started, I'd go from one to the other and everything. I was like, I don't need a second one, I just need one, I'm good, right? So I get down all the way, I get the ramp like positioned right here at the end of the driveway. I'm all the way down here at the other end of my driveway. I was like, I'm gonna quit this motherfucker. I got hauling ass, I'm like, yeah, I got this. Hit the ramp, everything's good. The second I leave the ramp, my feet leave the pedal. And as a guy, we know what goes next. Yeah, buddy. I came down and man, my world was wrecked. Yeah, I was in a fucking world. And you still had kids. Well, did I? Anyway. So that was a miserable day. And again, I'm glad I was there to uh provide uh entertainment for my parents. That's good. They did not console me, they laughed at me.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:54

Well, sometimes you gotta laugh at your kids.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:55

As most parents would, I mean they would laugh at you.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:57

That's what made us tougher than Gen Z. Yeah. Right? Uh little babies.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:05

Yeah, younger than me. I'd say I'd say we're the last of the good ones.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:13

Oh I think Gen X is where it's at. Oh, yeah, totally.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:17

Yeah, you would.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:18

Yeah, so what is it?

SPEAKER_00 1:27:19

That's such a Gen X thing to say. It is. Yeah, wouldn't it be?

SPEAKER_01 1:27:22

I mean we're winners.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:23

We're pre-cell phone, pre-Google, all that crap. We gotta experience life before it.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:28

Our childhood was pre-all that's pre pre-men getting pregnant.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:32

Almost 37.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:33

Yeah. I'm oh I'm 36 and a half today.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:37

Yeah, October.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:38

Oh yeah, it's my half birthday.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:40

Happy half birthday.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:41

Thank you. Um But no, we grew up without any of that stuff, and we were getting acclimated as things were becoming. So I think I think we're we're pretty solid.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:56

When did you get your first cell phone or tablet or electronic device?

SPEAKER_00 1:28:00

Um I was in the Marine Corps. I was like, one of my friends were four years old. One of my friends got a cell phone in seventh grade. She was my best friend, so we were always so there was always a cell phone. But I remember she got the first camera phone and it was a flip, you know. And look a flip, yeah. Yeah. And that's when you had to text like ticket, ticket, ticket. T nine. Oh, I was so good at T9. My brother was like my biggest cheerleader. He's like, look how bad she can T9 text.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:36

So when we were growing up, the cell phones. If you had a mobile phone in your car, to some oh yeah, to some people, it was you're rich. Yeah, you're rich.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:46

You had it. My aunt had one, and we were like, oh, they're loaded.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:50

Right. Yeah. Everybody has one in their pocket. That's right. You know.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:54

But some people they would see it, you're rich, oh my god. Others, like us kids driving around in dad's truck that had it. You don't touch that son of a bitch. That's like poison. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:04

Doesn't it cost like a hundred dollars an hour? It's like a fuck a minute.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:08

Yeah. It's like nobody, that's like the only rule of the truck. Nobody touch the phone. It's gotta stay. Nobody touch it.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:14

Yeah, emergencies only.

SPEAKER_06 1:29:15

That's it, yeah. I had a couch with a phone in the armrest. That was cool. Yeah. It was one of those 90s emerald green, like this color green leather couch, and it had yeah, phone in the armrest.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:29

Did you we had uh rotary phones? Oh yeah, do you have rotary phones? Yep.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:35

Man, you're old. No, but I my grandparents did.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:38

I mean, yeah, but we like very quickly went to the to the type stuff.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:43

Yeah. It's still cool though. It's it's way cooler now.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:46

It's funny watching a young, like, person who's never used that phone try to use it because they're like pushing it just to see what it does. And I was like, no, that's not how you do it.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:55

Well, you know, there's that like generational gap where like we do this with our hand, it's kind of like a shaka, like pinky to the mouth, thumb to the ear. And and gin. There's holds it like a like a brick to the side of their face.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:13

It's like a freaking caveman. Yeah, like cavemen.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:16

And then we've got Gin Xers here with uh sunglasses they can talk to on their phone.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:22

That's because we didn't have stuff like that when I was a kid, and now that I can afford cool shit, I buy technology and then it breaks for me.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:28

Yeah, well, that's because you manifest it that way.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:32

Well, do you like speaking of technology and car phones? Uh apparently Teslas, back to this, have the Starlink, so you can just have Wi-Fi all the time. Is that is that what I'm to understand? I'm sure that's true. That's pretty neat. And he said it uh Ed said it's got like a Google and all that kind of stuff.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:50

When um when me and my ex built out a sprinter van, it was meant to be coding on the road. And so we built it from an Amazon shell van to like we had three outlets, we had a water pump, refrigerator, and we had a Starlink. And when we went to Burning Man, we had a Starlink.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:10

Was it pretty like did it work pretty well?

SPEAKER_00 1:31:12

Yeah, it's perfect. And I mean all you need is all you need is the sky, like if you can see the sky, like if there's trees and stuff that might hinder tall buildings. Yep, but like but we had like 17, I want to say over 20 people at one time, and and it's still full bars for everybody.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:32

Wow. Yeah, that's pretty cool. Yes, the Sterling works. I love technology, man.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:38

I really do technology. I'm reading this really good fiction book called uh system upgrade, and it's talking about you know how they have Neuralink or they're working on Neuralink right now. Well, in this book, you actually have a wearable neuralink and it like makes you smarter, faster. And the excuse in the book market-based it's really interesting. Uh just uh the guy wrote it, say he wrote it in like the 90s, uh, but he definitely incorporated modern technology and terminology into it, and it's really cool. I'm at the part of the book now where there's robotics and all kinds of other stuff. I don't want to give too much of the book away, but yeah, it's called system upgrades. Really cool. The robotics part of it is China's got a mining company in Afghanistan, and they're using they say they're using the robots to mine to work the mines, which they are, but they build this massive robot army, and uh so that's a part of the book I'm in right now, and where this army is gonna terminators basically is gonna get unleashed and all that stuff.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:43

So with technology, there's been a lot of scientific proof that showing that we digressed from like world-renowned technology to like when the Nephilim used to bring it down to I don't know who that is.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:59

Oh, that's the angels that used to never mind.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:02

I mean the Aegens and the Lions and the East.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:05

Look at the book of Enoch.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:07

I've heard of it. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:09

You know, we used to have giants roaming the earth. Right. And never were there any dinosaurs, but there were dragons.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:15

Okay, let's open up this real quick. So I just saw before I came here that's give it what it's worth. It was on Facebook, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:33:25

So of course that's true.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:27

Of course it well, I don't know where the hell you most of your shit. You face it.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:30

That's the only news I rely on is Facebook. That's the only news you need. Because you're a doctor, right? If you really think that, then come on. Come on.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:38

Again, take what's worth. And being a biblical man, you you know the Bible.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:43

Yeah, I don't know it like I should, but I'd like to think that I I read it a lot.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:47

What's the the passage? The world was spoken into uh life by God or the world, the earth.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:54

Are you talking about Genesis?

SPEAKER_04 1:33:55

I don't fucking know.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:56

Don't say effing if you're talking about the Bible.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:00

You know, anyway. This thing that I saw, it was said that scientists.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:04

It said in the beginning, God created the earth, and the earth was without form and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep, and the spirit of God moved across the face of the water. And God said, Let there be light, and there was light.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:15

But God spoke it into reality or something like that, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:34:19

Did I not just say exactly that?

SPEAKER_04 1:34:22

I'll go with yes. So, what this thing said is that there's scientific proof showing that Earth was actually formed by sound waves. Which would back that up. If that is in fact true. I mean There you go. There go down that rabbit hole. Let me know what you come up with.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:43

One of the things that you like to talk about too, the meditation stuff. Did we did talk about did we talk about that on here?

SPEAKER_00 1:34:48

No, we have not, but I don't know if the readers are if the listeners are ready for it.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:53

I'm not just doing this last time I was here. Hold on, let's do some reader's digest really quickly. We won't spend a whole lot of time, but just 10 minutes. Let's talk about it real quick. So you went on a recent trip. Yeah. Trip. Oh, that was a good thing. No, I'm just kidding, it wasn't a trip like that. It was a trip. Oh, it's a trip? It was a trip. Oh, it was a different kind of trip. It's a natural human bird.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:14

The word that I don't like to use is vacation.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:17

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:18

But in Vail, we we were on vacation because I was on vacation for three days. But, anyways, um, yeah, I went to a retreat in Denver. And um, oh, I don't even know where to begin. I would need a whiteboard. Oh boy. Okay, so we were learning about the quantum field. Yeah, and it's and it's all quantum physics related and um epigenetically uh pulling out chemicals in your body that can heal you. And the way to get there is meditation because it is the true present moment where you are no one, no thing, nowhere, no time. And um, and brain waves, like we learned about brain waves and the frequencies and the energies of everything around us. And uh like this, this is low frequency. All of this that we see, low frequency. And and it is low frequency because that is what we see through the light prism. And you can only see things at low frequency, like matter. And so in order to get to a higher frequency and hit that moment of oneness, love, God, the universe, everything, because I am you, you are me, we are all one, is to get there is to basically flatline the frequencies, like frequencies moving so fast um that, and if you can get your brain waves to that highest frequency, that's when all possibilities that exist in the universe are possible.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:08

Um and so like curing impossibly uh impossible things to cure and things like that.

SPEAKER_00 1:37:15

So people have there's so many success stories like somebody with uh muscular dystrophy, he's s standing and walking and balancing himself on his own, and he's never been able to be out of braces his whole life. Um, a woman with 20 plus tumors in her body, June 2025, she cleared herself of all of them, and one of them was the size of her fist and her hip. Um, she cleared her body of all of them. We saw the PET scans, and um, and yeah, in January 2026, so freaking seven months later, she cleared herself of all the tumors and um heart arrhythmia, anaphylactic, allergies. Um, there was a man at the show. Well, the woman with the PET scans, she was at the she was at the retreat and got on stage and shared her story. Um, there was another man there who had never meditated before in his life and had a black spot like where he couldn't see. It was like a void area in his vision. And that cleared on day three of the event. And like, it's crazy. It really is crazy.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:36

Um, no, but you she did have because I was forced to do it. She did have me. No, she did have me watch some of these things, and it is kind of cool. But you did say that like you can't really verify because some of these people you didn't know, but but some of these stories are like incredible if they did happen. It's like, of course you'd want to try that out, you know, if I have like some terminal illness or something.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:56

Yeah, and there's um the whole idea is like it really comes down to gratitude and love, and that sounds really lame.

SPEAKER_05 1:39:05

Hippie.

SPEAKER_00 1:39:06

Hippie! Yeah, or open-minded, open-minded. And um, so I went with my friend who's got long COVID, and she's her life's been flipped upside down from it for four years, and she's been in such a negative mindset, and I've always thought that some of it was very um forced on you by Fauci? No, well, yes. Sorry, well, Vail Resorts Corporation, okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:30

Yeah, but I mean it was all a big long COVID is also. Take this jab that's not even tested, and you'll be fine.

SPEAKER_00 1:39:36

Um well, so so I went with her because she's been so negative and everything, and I've always thought that it was partially um psychosomatic. I mean, like, I know that her body's fighting her. I see her heart rate charts, and it's crazy. It's like definitely not a healthy body. Um, but he's Joe Dispenza is the guy running the show and has all the scientific data to back it up at this point, and so many success stories to back it up.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:07

And um you would think Big Pharma would be trying to keep this quiet.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:12

Yeah, yeah. That's the problem.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:14

I bet there's like threats and stuff, you know what I mean? Like, because yeah, seriously, if there's something out there that can help you with that, big pharma doesn't want that. They want money.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:25

Yeah, and he says that we've got a pharmacy of chemicals in our body. We just it's we don't know how to access them.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:34

We need to tap into it.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:36

And so that's basically what it is. And we have a penile gland, so do several other animals that some are larger.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:42

You were saying like the chameleon.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:44

Yeah, the chameleon has a penile gland, and that is what reads the environment around it to know the color and for it to blend to it.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:52

Because you said it doesn't even have to see that.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:54

Right. And turtles turtles after they've been gone for so long from the original nest, and they come back to the exact same place, they use their penal gland. Not a map, you know, and so there's animals where they are actively using their pineal gland, and that's located in the fourth ventricle of the brain, and it's got crystals in it, and it is the clitoris of the brain. So you can have an orgasm if you push the cerebral spinal fluid up, and and you can doctors pay attention.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:28

Doctors, pay attention.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:29

You can you can compress the crystals. You can compress the crystals in the penal gland by pumping the cerebral sprit spinal fluid up.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:39

You guys remember learning about that in med school, right?

SPEAKER_05 1:41:42

Yeah. What med school did you go to?

SPEAKER_00 1:41:46

Um and that activates it. That activates the penal gland in a human, and so basically it lies dormant and we don't use it.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:58

But from what you were saying, like people were like, how do you get that fluid to come up your you know? Yeah, sorry.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:13

And you can hit meditation like that if you if you get it going, and once you learn how to do that, so I'm practicing. Um but oh, okay. So here's something that really resonated with me. If anybody's like, okay, this sounds like voodoo, but here's an example of the energies and the frequencies and and the patterns that are created in the electromagnetic fields because we are all magnets, we have an electromagnetic field around us. That's not that's not crazy science, that's science. And um, have you ever seen the like sound vibration plates? If you put sand, okay, so you see the patterns, and that's all at different frequencies. So energy carries frequency, and frequency uh shows a pattern, and that pattern carries information. Okay. So they can read the frequencies and see the patterns. And and so there was women, like they've been studying people like through urine and blood and breast milk and um any kind of fluid that that oh, and brain scans and all sorts of things. So, like, it's not pseudoscience, it's just a bit unbelievable because what we know is this and what we see. Um, but so there's uh women that were that have like cervical cancer, and they were all demonstrating the same pattern. There's uh other women that were also demonstrating the same pattern, but they didn't have cervical cancer. They eventually got cervical cancer. So that's when they have learned, that's when they discovered that that energy equals last time to see the light squared. They did bring that up. Um, but that is when they discovered that energy change energy and the frequency changes matter. So that energy and that frequency is the the blueprint essentially of what's what's happening in you. And so that's when they learned well, if energy changes matter, then if you change the energy, you change matter. And so that's how that woman cleared herself of 20 plus tumors because she just raises frequency, changes the energy, and reduces.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:43

All right, what do you two think about that?

SPEAKER_00 1:44:45

It changes the matter.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:46

How do you feel about that? So believe in it at all?

SPEAKER_06 1:44:49

What I believe, because uh like right now, my cell phone is over there. So talking about energy and interrupting energy, yeah. I do believe that you know, if you look at our technology, Wi-Fi and all this stuff, I can believe that that's interrupting the flow that Solange was talking about.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:07

So and like I talk about transgranial that's by design, like they don't want us to do that.

SPEAKER_06 1:45:11

I don't know if it I don't want to go conspiracy theory. I like it. But I I but no, I do believe. Well, it's just like I was talking about transcranial uh uh magnetic stimulation. You know, the there is validity to some of these other therapies that that are out there, and uh as Solaj was talking, I'm like, yeah, I get it. Because when I'm away from my cell phone, physically away from it, I feel better. But when I'm on that thing, it's close to me for long periods of time. Yeah, it's a factor.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:37

So I can believe that there's and you death scroll and you doom scroll or whatever it's called, and you're just like, oh, I'm melting my brain. I'm not reading a book, I'm not doing anything proactive.

SPEAKER_06 1:45:47

Yeah, I mean, for what, a hundred and it's only been the past hundred, hundred and fifty years where we've had this I'm air-quoting advanced medical technology, but the human race did just fine with that. It probably doing a lot of the things that Slime was talking about, but it's probably just died off because we, you know, just take smolture in and move on.

SPEAKER_01 1:46:08

Well, I have always heard something to do along the lines of uh PMA, positive mental attitude. You know, I've read The Secret and all these things. Like, if the more positive you are, it really does feel like things go well. And then you find like if I wake up in the morning and I stub my toe, then I go and brush my teeth. I've said this before, I brush my teeth and I hit my gum real hard, and then I'm like late for work or late for this, or and it just it's a snowball effect because I'm negative right now in my mind and I'm drawing all that negativity in.

SPEAKER_06 1:46:35

I left my idea uh where I don't know where I I couldn't find my ID for a good part of Monday. Uh oh. And it completely destroyed my entire day because my whole energy was being stressed about not having my stupid ID card. And uh yeah, I don't think we give it, I don't think we give enough credit to these other methods that Slodge was talking about that I talk about a lot.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:00

Um well then because then you see like celebrities who have tried, you know, uh what's his name from Apple? Uh Steve Jobs. You know, he tried the holistic approach and then died right away. Like there was no, you know, he didn't. So like at what point do we think modern medicine is better than the hippie medicine? And I I only mean that because I don't have another name for it.

SPEAKER_00 1:47:23

I think there's a it's quantum physics.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:26

Oh, quantum physics. This is quantum leap in uh in in sign language too, though.

SPEAKER_00 1:47:33

It's like you can quantum leap, and that's kind of what what they teach you. And you are the creator of your destiny, essentially.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:43

And I mean, we didn't hear his thoughts on it.

SPEAKER_00 1:47:48

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:49

What do you think, Cody?

SPEAKER_04 1:47:51

I can go.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:53

Let me guess both ways.

SPEAKER_04 1:47:55

Okay, guess a couple different ways. You know, uh we were talking about religion a tiny bit earlier. Just you know, others others would bring that into it, you know. I mean, until it's where you want to put putting their belief into God or uh like Lee said, putting your belief into a positive mental attitude, whatever that may be, but um I relate to the negative influence, it the snowball effect. The I've seen the the positive side of it where you're like, oh yay, today's a great day. You get out of bed, put your socks on the right feet, um both feet. And then you know, it just it snowballs from there. So uh I think just simply believing and yes, reaffirming to yourself that yeah, today's a great day, or I'm doing great, or I I think that goes a very long way. Uh to the depth of it, like reaching into the subconscious, if you will. I don't know. Or the the godly world. I I don't know. I I just I don't know that much about that sort of stuff. So there have been many stories of it being proven right. Additionally, there's also many stories of it not so much.

SPEAKER_00 1:49:02

Well, so it comes down to it's not, he even says it's not about positive thinking, it's not the is it more of like a hypnosis thing where you're putting your brain into a relaxed state?

SPEAKER_04 1:49:15

I mean, meditation is a form of it's kind of self-hypnosis, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:49:18

Yeah, but it's the state of being outside of outside of meditation, it's not just meditation, like you have to believe that that abundance is already here, that your love is already here. What does that emotion feel like? And you teach your body. And he's like, you could be sitting and and and like your body is ahead of your brain, and like your body knows what your brain, like you have taught your body what your brain is is going to do. So like I have trouble getting your body, you're conditioning it, yeah. And I've and I have taught my body that, yeah, I'm gonna wake. Up when my alarm goes off. No matter how I feel every single night, like tomorrow I am waking up early. I'm getting out of bed. And no matter what I really want, um that in the morning, my body is conditioned to lay back in bed and fool myself that I will get up in five minutes. And but I've taught myself that. So basically it's reconditioning your body and letting your mind know that like that. I don't know where I'm I don't have a point. I do have a point, but I don't have the words. I don't have the I don't have the words. Um but so basically it's it's not just about so my friend with long COVID, she is still struggling with that positivity, and like I told her she's the one with long COVID. Yeah, and so he says if you're looking for it in your meditation, then then that means that you're in lack. So you have to believe it's already here. And she's like, Well, but I am in lack. And I was like, uh-uh, because no matter what happens in your meditation, if you just believe the negativity and you're still in survival mode rather than creation mode, then nothing's gonna change because you're still you. You have to change your mind, you have to be grateful for everything that you have. Be just be grateful in life. So if you're in traffic, be grateful that your car's running and all those things. So it is more than just what's happening in the meditation, it is what's happening in your way of being and how you live and how you think. And so I'm grateful.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:45

I'm grateful that asshole pulls out in front of me when the left lane's completely open.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:49

Oh, yeah, I like that. I love trafficked stuff. Oh, yeah. Did you guys hear about because we're almost we got about nine minutes? Well, we can go as long as we want, but uh, did you hear about the 11 scientists who are missing or dead and or unalived, whatever unaliving themselves when they when two of them posted videos like two days before saying, like, there's no way I'll ever do this, it's getting scary, blah, blah, blah, and then boom, they're gone.

SPEAKER_05 1:52:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:17

That's a little scary.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:18

That's Clinton's.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:19

No, we don't. This is an entertainment show. We're we're just making entertainment. We don't want to be in that boat. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:52:27

I just think it's the government is scared that we're gonna find I they're they fast tracked the FDA has fast-tracked psilocybin and Ibiga. I bag, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Ibaco.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:38

To take your money.

SPEAKER_00 1:52:39

Yeah, yeah. I did make a joke all these things. No, I won't make it.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:42

FC files came out, and then it's like, Iran war. We're gonna go to the moon. Yeah, we're gonna do a look, guys at all this stuff.

SPEAKER_00 1:52:48

I said they're running out, they're running out of the popular vote, so they're just like, okay, anybody who's dealing with depression and the hippies out there, let's give them shrooms, and maybe, maybe people will.

SPEAKER_01 1:53:01

They'll just calm down, they won't worry about what's going on behind the phone.

SPEAKER_00 1:53:04

But the only reason that it was ever that it was ever cut out was because you can grow it yourself.

SPEAKER_01 1:53:10

Oh, yeah, and they can't tax it.

SPEAKER_00 1:53:12

And so now it's like, okay, do the studies because obviously there's so many people already gaining the benefits from it.

SPEAKER_01 1:53:18

But so many people know this, and we still just go along with everything. It's like we all know why they did what they did. We all know why we're taxed or whatever toxic, but we're just like, eh, okay, I still gotta go to work tomorrow. I still gotta pay my taxes. Well, okay, then what does it matter if there's aliens? And that's all I feel like. What does it matter if we're at war or there's aliens or the price of gas is going up, or this, that, and the other thing. What's next? You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_06 1:53:42

Just around out what Slodge was saying, though, because you know, I you know, you've heard me talk about veteran suicide a lot. And I always say that proper restful sleep, proper flow of blood and oxygen to the brain, less reliance on substances. And what Slodge was talking about, I mean, that's all being restful, mindful, things like that.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:00

You're forgetting one thing. Don't speak ill of the government. That'll keep you alive for longer, too.

SPEAKER_06 1:54:05

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 1:54:06

But so thank God you gave me a microphone.

SPEAKER_06 1:54:09

So there is validity that Slodge was talking about. It's just not mainstream accepted. And Ivy Gang is not, you're not gonna, that's not a daily use drug. That's a one-time.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:20

That sounds scary as crap. You guys told me about what real quick, talk about what that does. Have you heard about this?

SPEAKER_06 1:54:25

No, so it's like uh Roger was talking about it's rude. I forgot what country it comes from in Africa, but you basically go on, and I'm taking all this from podcasts, I'm not a freaking doctor or anything like that, but um, like the Luttrell brothers, they both did it, and you basically go on a journey of your entire life, and it is not pleasant, yeah. Throwing up, it's not it's not a fun experience from everybody that's talked about it, but when they've done it, it resets, and that's what the study is about is what is it doing to all the different tonins in your brain and the you know your all the brain waves and all that. They don't know how IBAN does it, but it resets your brain. There's plenty of people from the special operations community that have done it one time and has completely saved their lives. So that and uh Joe, some other podcast, Joe Rogan. Uh had uh people have heard of him probably. Yeah, uh he had Rick Perry, former governor of uh Texas, and another gentleman on, and they went yeah, they went into big, big detail on Iba Gang and why it's so important and what it's done. Like Texas is absolutely spearheaded getting that legislation uh passed and everything.

SPEAKER_01 1:55:43

So Joe Rogan does a lot of those things, though. He's he's an advocate for a lot of psychedelics and and the chamber like he retires. What's the one where you it's like a D D something chamber where you just it's you none of your sensory hyperbolic or something?

SPEAKER_06 1:55:58

Well, there's sensory deprivation, yeah. Maybe that's what it is.

SPEAKER_00 1:56:01

And that's what meditation is meant to be.

SPEAKER_06 1:56:04

But yeah, the the hyperbaric oxygen is what I've done, and that's where you're breathing oxygen, pure oxygen under pressure. Uh, because then again, it's increasing the flow of blood to your brain and fluids, increases cellular production, increases healing. Everybody says it's not so ridiculously simple, but every person I went through the chamber with over the course of 40 treatments of four months, 200 plus people, everyone said they're getting better sleep, which is helping them deal with all the other pains. I I know a guy that's 80 years old, but I thought he was gonna die. Uh he's pretty close friend of mine. And one of the reasons why I did a hyperbaric, and he's you know, he's still an 80-year-old guy, but his energy's back, you can tell. Uh so these things, yeah. They the more people that talk do it and talk about it uh and see results from it, the more it's gonna be accepted.

SPEAKER_01 1:57:00

So and and what do you think about uh cannabis being not a schedule one substance anymore?

SPEAKER_06 1:57:08

You know, it goes back to how it benefits the individual. If it's helping somebody deal, like somebody that's got a terminal illness, who cares? Let them do it. Or somebody that is in severe pain, let them do it.

SPEAKER_01 1:57:22

I think it's better for you than alcohol.

SPEAKER_06 1:57:23

That's what everybody says. I've never done weed, so I wouldn't know. Uh, but I know what alcohol did to challenge, except which is why I'm sober. Um, so yeah, I think you know the effects of weed are nowhere near what the effects of alcohol are. Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:57:38

The way I see it is if it's natural, like the earth and nature and our bodies at that give us everything that we need.

SPEAKER_01 1:57:49

So, what happens if you eat a berry and it's poisonous and you die, but it's natural.

SPEAKER_00 1:57:54

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:57:55

I'm just messing with the I know, I know.

SPEAKER_00 1:57:58

But like in order to get better, you know, like you could jump in the ocean and then drown, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:58:05

But like No, I think it it's gonna be legal everywhere. I think that there's common sense behind it that it's it's ridiculous that it's not legal, and it's because the industries that would go bankrupt if we used hemp more than we used other things that were not as you know, not as lucrative.

SPEAKER_06 1:58:20

Yeah, we were talking about that yesterday.

SPEAKER_01 1:58:22

I did studies on that for my master's. My we had a a professor that was a former lawyer for Johnson and Johnson, and he would there would be cigar stains on our papers and stuff. I loved it. But he he was like, look into hemp, and I want you to all write why hemp was ever you know made illegal. And then you like the more you dig back, and it's like, oh, government, yeah, it's always government, yeah. It's always self-serving, yeah, profit, big, big, big freaking pharma. Like, you know, there's so many industries that would not like big pharma has their hands in a lot of pockets, you know what I mean? So they they they they're putting money into a lot of people's pockets too. And if you're paying the doctors, right. So if you're if you're gonna come along and be like, hey, this is way better for you know a fraction of the cost, well, that doesn't make them any money, so they're gonna keep it illegal as long as they can. This is an entertainment, this is entertainment only. We're just joking around. We don't know what we're talking about.

SPEAKER_00 1:59:17

They own they own the insurance companies, they do, they distribute the drugs and they pay the doctors.

SPEAKER_01 1:59:24

And we're gonna pay taxes until we die.

SPEAKER_06 1:59:27

It's not just follow the money aim, or it's follow the industry. It's follow the find the industry that's behind the yeah, but it's also follow the money.

SPEAKER_01 1:59:34

You follow the money and you find out the money is the guy possibly.

SPEAKER_00 1:59:38

I mean, we could cut all the cliches and just be like down with pharma. Yeah, down with big pharma.

SPEAKER_01 1:59:43

And let's get some term limits in there. Sorry.

SPEAKER_00 1:59:45

Yeah, and where's this uh I mean it, dude.

SPEAKER_01 1:59:48

We need them so bad.

SPEAKER_00 1:59:50

Conflict of interest.

SPEAKER_01 1:59:51

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:59:53

And where's our best benefit? Like who's benefit who cares about our best interests?

SPEAKER_01 1:59:59

Well, it's not Congress. It's not that's not the ones who are insider trading and making millions of dollars in a political career. It's not them. They're doing it in front of all of us, like we see it. And they're and they're doing it, and like everybody knows it. And it's like they're trying to pass, they're trying to pass these bills where they can't do insider trading, and it's like, why is anybody fighting that? Oh, because you're making millions of dollars. Of course, you're not gonna fight that. But then we won't vote them out. Not we. Certain people won't vote them out. Right.

SPEAKER_00 2:00:29

I'm changing my voter registration now. The Electoral College is why I didn't have to this last one.

SPEAKER_01 2:00:37

Do you think everybody should vote?

SPEAKER_00 2:00:40

Well, yeah. And and most countries.

SPEAKER_01 2:00:44

Do you think you should have a certain IQ to be able to vote?

SPEAKER_00 2:00:47

No, I don't think that's fair. Plus, if you were to judge a fish based uh if you were to judge a fish's intelligence based off its ability to climb a tree, come on.

SPEAKER_01 2:01:00

That makes no sense to what we're talking about. So if everyone You know it used to be that not everybody could vote, right? Yeah, but it's but then they wanted to make it to where everybody could vote because you can easily lie to the dumb masses. You can't easily lie to a bunch of smart people who are smart enough to see through your stuff, right? So you can easily propaganda can easily work on the dumb people. Totally. No offense, dumb people. Totally, but that's why they vote the way they vote. Like I've always been this, my parents were this. Like, you're not gonna look into anything and see why you're voting the way you're voting.

SPEAKER_00 2:01:29

Yeah. Well, I mean, there's people like somebody that I know very well, and they have a political flag sitting in their back seat, and I bring up, have you heard about this? And they're like, No. And I'm like, then you just take the flag out of your back seat. And if you go read about it, is this one of the flags that they would kill you if you were in their country and you agree, then put it back up. But so there's people who support just bec just for the sake of who they're associated with and what they vote for. And and that's a problem. But you can't force everybody to do their own research, should they? Yeah. And I think right now with the t way the times are, I think I think people have been presented with a lot of facts and a lot of false facts. And it's up to you to know whether you're an idiot, like broadcasting your beliefs when it's just your beliefs based off of really only perception and no data.

SPEAKER_01 2:02:41

Yeah, and that that's also comes back to don't listen to entertainment shows like us. We're just entertainment, we're joking around, we're showing our opinions, and sometimes we're just faking the we're just goofing off of those opinions. Yeah, but do go out and do your own research. Yeah, and there's more research to be had than TikTok and Instagram and Facebook and social freaking media. I will say though, that thank God social media is here so that we can keep those in check who would keep spreading these lies and like the mainstream media sucks, man, on every side. It sucks. You know, it all everybody has an agenda. Everybody backs their candidate or doesn't back their candidate, but it's it's it's not, we can't believe what we see. You know, and then you use Chat GPT, who is controlled by the people who control it. So it's not gonna tell you everything, and you know, it's not gonna but uh it's gonna get you closer. It'll get you close. It does admit all the atrocities that the government has uh done and stuff like that. Not all of them.

SPEAKER_00 2:03:34

But there's there's also sometimes not one right answer. It's what do you value? Is this important enough? And what are the setbacks on that? And like like I saw on Facebook that there are these two high school students in Colorado that are trying to pass a bill, and and it's something that I value deeply, and that's minimize waste and recycle, reduce, reuse, right? Well, these two high school students are trying to pass a bill that restaurants don't offer single-use plastic items unless it's requested by the customer. I love that as a headline. Like, yeah, that'd be awesome if there's no waste. But if you look at the other side and what the setback would be to that, is that requires businesses to wash more things. And the water table in Colorado is not doing okay. So if you're going to follow all the hygienic rules that you need to and that you're that you're required to, and now you have to wash more things, then people in Arizona and Southern California aren't gonna get the water because the people in Colorado near the headwaters are gonna be using it all because this bill was passed. So it's like, yes, I love reducing waste, but you have to also look at, well, why wouldn't this make sense and dig a little deeper past the headline and be like, oh, well, that wouldn't be good because yeah, the landfills are like I hate that landfills are building up. I hate that wind can just take a plastic rammic and throw it wherever. But like it you can't survive without water. And so if water's not flowing, what's the point?

SPEAKER_01 2:05:32

And a lot of people will uh click on clickbait and memes and things like that, and they'll take it as truth. That's truth because it's in a meme. I saw it in the meme at both sides, man, and I can't stand it. It's like, will you fact check something before you share it and post it and try to put it out there? Because this is what makes social media suck. Don't put something out there that's fake. If you haven't done the the research, then don't put it out there. Do the research, and then if it is real, put it out there if you want. But anyway. Alright, you guys ready for some takeaways?

SPEAKER_05 2:06:01

Let's do it. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:06:04

Alright. Oh, yeah. The Hot Asses Podcast, Cody. Let's hear your takeaways, brother.

SPEAKER_04 2:06:10

Just stay positive, my brother. That's about it. You know, positive mental attitude is uh we've been taught, and uh life will treat you well.

SPEAKER_01 2:06:19

Chris.

SPEAKER_06 2:06:20

Hey, uh, yeah, do your own research. Learn how prompt AI because AI will give you references and everything, so then you can go read on your own. Get out, enjoy the sun, the weather's beautiful, have fun. Uh come uh come out to the Carolina Museum Library when it opens on the 8th of June.

SPEAKER_01 2:06:36

8th of June. Yeah. So lunch.

SPEAKER_00 2:06:39

Um AI data centers are also sucking water. And um, and that's not recycled water. And um, yeah, keep the vibes high, keep your energy high, then other people around you will also be positive.

SPEAKER_01 2:06:55

Do you research people do it? I would like to say uh congratulations to TK and Nicole, who by the time you see this will have been married. Woo! And we are gonna go see that. And we wish TK could be here, but we know that life happens, and so sometimes we have to do things like this. But TK, uh, we're we're uh we're missing you, and congratulations on uh you and Nicole's wedding. I know that you're probably hammered right now. Uh please please get this episode out on time. We love you. We love you. This is the Hot Ashes Podcast. Thanks for listening.

SPEAKER_00 2:07:29

We do