Episode 35 (Cody's retirement, Cigar family, Conspiracy talks)

In this episode of the Hot Ashes Podcast, Lee, TK, Amy, Dakota, and Roger light up some great sticks, pour serious bourbon, and dive into one of the most emotional and unfiltered conversations yet.

We kick things off recapping our brother Cody’s retirement from the Marine Corps after 27 years of service — from Lee putting the uniform back on and giving a heartfelt speech, to the powerful moments with Cody’s kids and the community that showed up for him. We talk about what it really feels like to take the uniform off for the last time, the struggle of transition, and what “thank you for your service” means from both sides of the table.

From there we get into:

• The cigar-shop family vibe: how this crew always shows up for each other — moving houses, honoring friends we’ve lost, and throwing a retirement party that went way too late.
• Cody’s insane bourbon haul and everyone’s drinks & smokes for the night (My Father Blue, Drew Estate Sweet Jane, George’s box-pressed, Basil Hayden, Eagle Rare, Jefferson’s Ocean, and more).
• A sobering moment about a neighbor collapsing while breaking up a dog fight and how fast life can change.

Then the conversation takes a hard turn into:

• 9/11, NASA, the moon landing, aliens, and flat earth–adjacent theories
• Money, power, and why celebrities and politicians drive us crazy
• The NFL, college football, NIL money, and why pro athletes make more than the people we send to war

It’s raw, it’s honest, it’s emotional, and it’s absolutely not scripted. As always, this is entertainment and opinion, not “official” anything — just a group of friends around a table, cigars in hand, talking about life, service, and the crazy world we’re living in.

⏱ Chapters (suggested): 0:00 – Lighting up & drink/cigar roll call
1:00 – Cody’s Marine Corps retirement & Lee back in uniform
6:30 – Gifts, plaques, and emotional moments at the ceremony
10:00 – The party recap: cigars, bourbon, and 4 a.m. bedtimes
14:30 – A neighbor collapses breaking up a dog fight
18:00 – Cigar shop “family” and how the crew always shows up
22:30 – Amy’s COVID-era retirement with no proper ceremony
27:00 – What “thank you for your service” really means
35:00 – Veterans, Vietnam stories, and perspective on hardship
39:00 – 9/11 questions, Building 7, and conspiracy talk
43:00 – Did we go to the moon? NASA, Artemis, and space skepticism
50:00 – NFL scripts, team names, and the Redskins/Commanders rant
1:00:00 – College football, NIL, and money in sports
1:15:00 – Politics, term limits, and the “world is a stage”
1:25:00 – Closing thoughts & switching back to cigars

💨 Featured Cigars:

• My Father Blue
• George’s box-pressed (and torpedo)
• Drew Estate Sweet Jane
• Red Meat Lovers (Tatuaje collab)
  …and more we probably shouldn’t smoke all in one weekend.

🥃 Featured Spirits:

• Tennessee Standard blended bourbon (Kings Family Distillery)
• Mictors 10
• Eagle Rare, Buffalo Trace, Basil Hayden
• Russell’s single barrel & 10-year
• Jefferson’s Ocean
• E.H. Taylor small batch and other heaters from Cody’s new shelf

If you’re into cigars, bourbon, veterans’ stories, and unfiltered barbershop-level conversation, you’re in the right place.

Like, subscribe, and drop a comment:

• What’s your go-to cigar & pour?
• Are you a vet? Tell us where you served and how your transition went.
• Which topic in this episode hit you hardest?

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Transcript

SPEAKER_05 0:00

TK? Yes. It's the Hot Athes Podcast. Welcome back. I'm Lee. TK. Boy, do we have one for you today?

SPEAKER_04 0:18

You know what like really helps you light your cigar? What's that? When you take the cap off the lighter so that the flame can come out. Yeah, you know, I read that somewhere.

SPEAKER_05 0:27

I think it was in Vanity Fair or something like that. It helps. But uh, so what are we smoking? What are we drinking? We're gonna go around the table as we do. I'm smoking a George's boxed pressed torpedo, because that's my favorite. It doesn't have the wrapper on it because his last order came in without the uh wrappers on it. No big deal. Still smokes the same, tastes great. I am drinking, I don't know if I'm still drunk from yesterday, but I'm drinking, I will get into that in a little bit. Uh pernicious TK.

SPEAKER_04 0:54

Nicely done. I'm uh close to the same exact thing, but uh Georgia's here, nothing but the finest, not the torpedo, but the box pressed.

SPEAKER_05 1:04

Uh it's the same, it's the same, yeah. It's the same smoke. It's just not, it's just not tapered at the end.

SPEAKER_04 1:09

Yeah, that's it. Same old, same old, and the pernicious by way of my brother Lee.

SPEAKER_05 1:14

Yes, sir. Amy, we got Amy on microphone three.

SPEAKER_00 1:19

And I'm smoking a Drew Estate uh sweet Jane. Sweet Jane. And sipping on some bourbon.

SPEAKER_05 1:26

What kind of bourbon? Raw hair.

SPEAKER_00 1:32

Some King's Family Distillery, Tennessee standard blended bourbon.

SPEAKER_05 1:36

Nice. And I think that now, Roger, is that the hot stuff or is it better than the hot stuff?

SPEAKER_00 1:41

It's a little bit hot.

SPEAKER_05 1:42

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:43

It's got some heat on the front end.

SPEAKER_05 1:45

Are you liking it?

SPEAKER_00 1:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:46

Okay, nice. Looks like something I can't afford. So we got Dakota on Mike 4. And what is this that he's smoking?

unknown 1:54

My father, blue.

SPEAKER_00 1:55

It looks like blue.

SPEAKER_05 2:02

And he's drinking, what is this, $17.92?

SPEAKER_00 2:04

He's sipping on uh Micter's 10.

SPEAKER_05 2:06

Oh, okay. And he'll be out here in a minute. He's helping customers. That's how we do it at the shop, you know. Uh even though George is in there, so I don't know why he's still doing it, but that's okay. So let's get into it, man. I'll tell you what, uh for those of you who don't know, we we had a little party last night.

SPEAKER_04 2:24

Yeah, you did.

SPEAKER_05 2:26

You you were there too.

SPEAKER_04 2:27

I was there.

SPEAKER_05 2:28

We were all there. Uh our friend Cody, who can't be on the show today, but he's on here frequently. Uh he had he retired from the Ring Corps yesterday, and and that's why I look like this. I had the honor of uh putting my uniform back on, shaving my nasty face, and uh you're dipped and whipped and being the senior enlisted for his for his um You got your ears lowered for it. Yeah, dude. It was really cool, man. It was cool like being back in uniform. I got to see Roger in uniform for the first time. All these guys got to see me in uniform for the first time because I retired nine years ago.

SPEAKER_04 3:03

Well, I mean it's gotta be able it's gotta be cool to put that back on and yeah, and for such an honorable occasion.

SPEAKER_05 3:09

Oh man, I was so honored. And to be able to fit in your uniform and all that stuff, you know what I mean? That's an added bonus. I did make that joke in my speech. I said, uh, when Cody and I were, you know, maxing out our pull-ups and getting fit, our peers were maxing out their camis and until they didn't fit or something like that. But we were, you know, we were competitive like that.

SPEAKER_04 3:29

We actually um I would go as far as to say any service member, no matter what the branch, like once their time has come, retired or not, they'd uh jump at the chance to put the uniform back on and you know, you know, well, yeah, but unless you uh we got one right here, she doesn't want to do that.

SPEAKER_05 3:44

Air Force, right? Yeah, Air Force.

SPEAKER_04 3:46

For the right, for the right occasion, you know.

SPEAKER_05 3:48

Yeah, you wouldn't like if a friend asked you to come be part of their ceremony, you wouldn't put your uniform back on.

SPEAKER_04 3:53

Disclaimer, this is a civilian's take. First time watchers, this is a civilian's take, so continue.

SPEAKER_00 4:00

I I think solely for like a select few retirement ceremony, I would Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_05 4:06

I wouldn't do it for just anybody. But Cody's a you know, he's he's a brother to me. So I was honored to do it. It was it was freaking awesome. That's why my voice sounds like this, because I was uh No, your voice just always sounds like that. I feel like I'm like, but I was talking in, you know, you I you talk in Marine Corps voice when you're giving a speech with no microphone and stuff, and I I was like, I hope I didn't come off too like knife handy and mariney, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:28

You know, you gotta say it with your chest.

SPEAKER_05 4:30

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 4:30

I feel like you almost have to.

SPEAKER_05 4:32

Yeah, but I think it was good. It was great. And uh Cody, boy, I tell you, you know, he wasn't ready to leave the Marine Corps, but they his last three years, he did 27 years. His last three years, they're trying to send him out to Yuma. So he's like, nah, man, I gotta retire. He's got young kids.

SPEAKER_04 4:46

Uh well, he said it on the show before that like he loved his job. So and and then when he made the Facebook post about like, hey, this is kind of sudden, I wasn't expecting this. I didn't I didn't kind of know this was coming. I knew I just based on the conversations we've had at the table alone, I knew it affected him because he wasn't ready. He wasn't done like mentally, like he wasn't like I'm trying to punch the clock and be done.

SPEAKER_00 5:09

He wasn't going out on his own terms, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 5:11

It was dictated to that. He was gonna do 30 years, and it's like, you know. Um but he did, he had a great freaking career, he did great things. Career you can definitely hang your hat on. Absolutely, man. And how cool were those gifts, those retirement things, like the table and the map thing Ben built. So our friend Ben is a woodworker with Pong Woodworks, Pong Woodworks, and he made this big giant map of the United States, and and there's all these like holes around like little tiny holes for a peg around all the major cities and things like that for him to put all his marathons that he's done and across the top, the sides, and the bottom. Well, you guys all saw it. I'm just telling them, uh, they have these slots and stuff where you put the ribbon through and your metal for all those runs will will basically be all over that plaque. So I can't wait to see. Yeah, dude. It Ben did a really freaking good job on that thing. It looks it looks excellent. Um, I uh almost lost a fingertip while trying to help him out with it. But did you ever get it?

SPEAKER_04 6:10

Did you uh ever get choked up during it?

SPEAKER_05 6:14

I I was getting a little no when I gave my speech.

SPEAKER_04 6:18

No, just in at any given moment during it.

SPEAKER_05 6:20

Yes, when he was getting choked up.

SPEAKER_04 6:22

Because he was telling me we had a conversation for like 10 or 15 minutes, and he was like, dude, he's like, when it came my turn to talk, and the first when I had to like say words, he was like, Oh shit.

SPEAKER_05 6:32

He said I was trying to pull it out of him because I mentioned his parents or past and all that stuff. And I was like, dude, I told you I was gonna talk about this stuff, but I I did that so I could say, but look around you. Yeah, you've got a new you know, you your family's here, right? Right, right, right. And that's I was like, okay, stop talking. No, but when he started choking up, I was like, I knew what that meant. Well, because my dad died two years before my retirement. So as soon as I brought up his name, I got choked up and I lost all like momentum for my speech. Right.

SPEAKER_04 7:02

I just I couldn't, but then you kind of get into like a lucid state of where it's like, hey, like I'm I'm gonna still remember what I was about to say, but it's gonna become a lot more free-flowing now because I feel a kind of way like in the moment type deal.

SPEAKER_05 7:16

I mean, I've I'm a public speaker, I was a recruiter, I was a college teacher. You know, I've always been fine with speaking in front of people, but when my retirement came, you it's hard, dude, when you when you mentioned like my dad was my my best friend, you know, and he died in a plane crash two years before, and I was like, Bro, I said, You guys might have noticed uh that they said junior at the end of that. That's because my dad.

SPEAKER_04 7:41

You know what I mean? As soon as I said that, I was like, oh. There's like a moment where it's like, yeah, dude, it was hard.

SPEAKER_05 7:47

And so Cody hit a couple of those points. You could hear it in his voice.

SPEAKER_04 7:50

But he said it was like four or five times where he's like got to certain points and you could hear it. I'm like, bro, just let it out. We know that it's the old uh it's the old uh dude uh clear throat, like my allergies are acting up.

SPEAKER_03 8:03

Yeah, I mean him talking about it. Like you should see the uh the pictures that I got, like uh you're in one of those pictures, but um it's when right before the ceremony started off, his his two little girls ran up there to him. They're looking at the bird, and he's porting and he's like explaining, hey, I was that's sick, and it's like it's kind of dark, so it's already has like a black and white scale to it, but I I moved the color there, and and like I said, I'll I'll show you off off uh show, but then like you're standing there behind him almost as like a a proud like brother, mentor, and everything else, like behind it, and you're like you're seeing him interact with his kids in the helicopter. That's cool, man. It's really good photos.

SPEAKER_05 8:41

That's cool.

SPEAKER_03 8:42

So I don't know if uh Taylor ended up getting the same pictures or not, but like I know. I just like Amy and I were sitting there and I I saw like that interaction. I was like, that's a moment that he would definitely want to see.

SPEAKER_05 8:51

And it was so cool seeing like he was like, Look, guys looking, they were looking up and they're watching them take off. Yeah, and even when we were up there giving them their stuff, they don't know what's going on. So we were just kind of like talking to them and stuff, and like you know, because they're like, What the hell is this? If you've never been to a Marine Corps retirement, but uh no, it was beautiful, man. It was it was so awesome for his daughters to see that, and they won't remember it, but there'll be pictures, you know. Chance will certainly remember it. And yeah, my sister Taylor was the they might remember it, you know, you know. I told her so she was on the phone with my mom when I got home last night and she was on speaker. I was like, Taylor, hurry up and get me those damn pictures. Like she was on her way home from the shoot. Yeah, you know what I mean? So, but it was great, man. And and last night we had a party. Oh man, what a party. We partied at Good Vibes, we partied at Cody's. Super good vibes. And uh a few of us stayed up way past our bedtime and went out to 34 North. I think we got to bed at four o'clock in the morning.

SPEAKER_03 9:43

That's respectable though. Lee, man, I got home at like 11 15 like ish. That's even more respectable. That's very respectable, man.

SPEAKER_05 9:51

I did get up at 7 30 and go get my uh and get hopped in my truck and went home to sleep more.

SPEAKER_04 9:56

Yeah, but I mean, still. I did hop, I hit up Cody yesterday morning and I was like, look, dude, I gotta work, but I'm trying to swing by the party, blah, blah.

SPEAKER_05 10:04

That was so cool seeing you walk in, dude. I didn't think you were gonna be there. That was cool.

SPEAKER_04 10:07

And then like I sent him like a little paragraph. It was like, dude, like, great career, well deserved. Like, bro, you're a good man. Thank you for being a friend. And I was like, yo, hopefully I get to see you later. And I was like leaving work and I was like, bro, I'm definitely pulling out.

SPEAKER_05 10:20

Did you see his new liquor collection? Thanks to everybody. He's chilling with some connoisseurs now.

SPEAKER_03 10:25

He's got off dude, he got ego. I look forward to the next time he he's around the table when we're doing a show, man.

SPEAKER_04 10:32

So Dakota, keep talking, like talk.

SPEAKER_03 10:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 10:35

And like the dude's cup was like full to the brim with ice and bourbon when I pulled up.

SPEAKER_03 10:41

Oh, yeah, yeah. So he had it like full up.

SPEAKER_04 10:44

I was like, yes, let's go.

SPEAKER_05 10:45

He's feeling it. I mean, you could tell he's like feeling it, yeah. But we I, you know, and there's only a few occasions where I'll do that. I'll just I'm in it for the long run.

SPEAKER_04 10:55

But that's one of those ones, though. And that's the one you gotta do it, you know.

SPEAKER_05 10:58

That's the one to do it. And so that's why we stayed up way past our bedtime and drank and stuff, but it was a really good time. Um that's cool.

SPEAKER_04 11:05

Respect. I just felt like thankful to be there, man. That was really cool.

SPEAKER_05 11:09

One of the things I thought was the coolest was the whole cigar shop just coming through for this guy, man. I I love you guys for that. Thank you. Because, you know, he his family's in Idaho, they're not pretty much.

SPEAKER_03 11:20

I know, and that's the that's the thing about the cigar shop, is like we pulled through for everyone. So it's if you go back to when Andrew moved houses, right? He moved 15 minutes down the road. Yeah, the entire shop was there. Yeah. Uh Charles Teachy, God rest his soul, when he passed away, that's right. Not only did he have a massive like show-in of all the students and everything he had and the athletes, uh, but then the entire shop was there. Right.

SPEAKER_05 11:44

So um that when COVID, you know, every time, every time Ben moves, we go and lift his stuff for him. But it is, it's a family, and I think that's freaking awesome.

SPEAKER_03 11:55

And that's another thing is like I want people to see on on the podcast is that like when you're around a cigar circle, like you're your family. Yeah, like we don't care what state you came from unless you're Michigan. Don't like that. Go buckeyes, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 12:10

I also don't like army people, yeah. Gross. I was gonna say Air Force, but you're here and we love you.

SPEAKER_04 12:16

He would never say that. If you were sitting over there, he might have said it. I might have, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:20

It's fair.

SPEAKER_03 12:21

Yeah, but yeah, like cigar circles, man. It's I I really feel like uh, you know, tables like this that exist all around the country and all around the world, like people put down differences and everything else and sit there and smoke a good cigar. Which, speaking of uh My Father Blue, this is what I'm smoking. Uh George and I were gonna look at see bringing these into the shop. Oh, he doesn't have those already. So this is uh My Father's one of their newest releases. Let me know how that is.

SPEAKER_05 12:49

And uh The Judge, but I haven't seen that one.

SPEAKER_04 12:51

I've never seen the blue label ones before, ever.

SPEAKER_05 12:53

Yeah. So is it new or it's good though? You like it? It is oh very good. It's new, very good.

SPEAKER_03 12:58

Yeah, new, new nice. Yep. So this is something we're gonna work on uh uh getting in there. Hopefully uh they're in stock and we can get them. So good stuff, inshallah. Inshallah. Inshallah, so I had to get up.

SPEAKER_05 13:13

Um I told you at 7:30. I went over to my house and went to sleep, and my phone was like dead.

SPEAKER_04 13:18

Dude, I was like, Lee is pulling a TK now. No, but my other boys got up.

SPEAKER_05 13:23

That's because my phone was dead. Not ready. So when it's finally charged up, I'm like, oh crap, everybody thinks I'm like dead. Because they're all in the group, like, is Lee alive? I'm like, yeah, what's up?

SPEAKER_04 13:32

Dog, the only thing I was thinking in my head was like, Welcome to TK's world, bro. It's time to record, bro.

SPEAKER_05 13:39

It's because my phone was dying there, and then it died, I think, when we were at 34, but no big deal.

SPEAKER_04 13:44

But I you don't need your phone in that.

SPEAKER_05 13:51

I had to go like 9 a.m. No, no, no, 1 p.m. Oh, I was gonna say. Damn, you didn't spag chicken shit. But remember what I told you guys before the show. I went back over to Cody's to get all the equipment to bring back to New River, and Cody informed me that I wouldn't be able to get there because there was a a person on the ground at the house that I had just left earlier that day. Yeah, I mean next to Ken will be notified by then. He collapsed, yeah. It's not coming out tonight next week. It's this is terrible, man. It's like apparently this guy was trying to break up a dog fight and he collapsed, and they EMS was working on them for a long time, and I don't think they were successful. So when I got there to get the coolers and stuff, they had to bring them all the way down the road to the corner where you're supposed to and then we put them in the back of the truck. So I was like, my God. Well, let's freaking take a dram. Yeah, man. I mean, so I was praying that then I was like, man, I cheers to them.

SPEAKER_04 14:50

Cheers to him.

SPEAKER_05 14:51

You know, and uh, because the first thing I thought was like, please let it not be somebody from the party. Yeah. And it wasn't. I mean, cleanly. Even still, it's like, dude, you never know when your time is up.

SPEAKER_04 15:03

It's just I mean, even like the going out there to break up a dog fight, it's like, oh, I'm just gonna go do this real quick. And then something happens.

SPEAKER_05 15:09

And that would be me because I have a heart condition, you know. But at least I have a defibrill that can pump me back to life or whatever. Certain amount of times. Yeah, it's worked five times. Seven? Yeah. Five? It's I it's supposed to be like one or two, but it is there a max? It did it eight. It did it five times when I was playing a giga. Eight is like, yo, we're eight's like they're not gonna do it again, you're just gonna die. Yeah, all right. All right, I'm gonna head out. You figure it out now. And that's good because if it kept going, it would probably kill you. And that's why EMS has no rhythm. Yeah, it's EMS has these magnets that they'll put on them to disable them. So they could do like manual. But this isn't about me, this is about this dude, man. So it's very, very sad. Very sad. And I'm waiting to hear, like, I don't know how old the guy was, I don't know anything about him. Cody, it's not his next door neighbor because that guy's out of town. Where we parked and everything.

SPEAKER_04 15:58

Where your truck was.

SPEAKER_05 15:59

Yeah, that guy's out of town. So we knew it wasn't him, it must have just been another neighbor that saw the fight or whatever. But again, that wasn't there when I left at 7 30 this morning. There was no dogs, there was no nothing. Which it's crazy, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 16:14

I mean, it's crazy to just think that you go over there to help and that like I know, dude.

SPEAKER_05 16:19

And now you're you're gone. But maybe you're in a better place. Brutal. Hopefully.

SPEAKER_04 16:24

100%.

SPEAKER_05 16:25

Hopefully. Okay, let's get off the dark stuff. I need a beer.

SPEAKER_03 16:30

Ouch. Oh, thanks, Roger. Roll hair. So going back to Cody's collection. Man, dude.

SPEAKER_04 16:37

He's stocked up, right though, right? Eagle Ray. Oh, yeah. Eagle Rail.

SPEAKER_03 16:40

Buffalo Trace. Two buffers.

SPEAKER_04 16:42

He's got the essentials. Yep.

SPEAKER_05 16:44

I got him Basil Hayden. Yep.

SPEAKER_04 16:46

Nice little basil. Which I like. I like Basil Hayden. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:48

That's a good one. Nice one. If you if you're trying to get into bourbon, Basil Hayden is a good step. Yeah, yeah. It's a nice, smoother, lower proof. Thanks, buddy.

SPEAKER_04 16:56

My father had introduced me to Basil Hayden. It's pretty good. I know that uh Eagle Rare and uh Buffalo Trace, me and Roger have talked about it before. They're they're entry, you know what I'm saying? Roger, you're too good too. They're not like crap, but it's like that's a good way if you're gonna like let somebody taste bourbon, like Eagle Rare, Buffalo Trace. Let's see if let's start here, see if you like it type deal.

SPEAKER_05 17:18

Yeah, I had it. My old sound guy, who was a terrible sound guy, but he liked Basil Hayden.

SPEAKER_06 17:24

And uh and I should have the shade, the shade, and I take well then.

SPEAKER_05 17:28

He was this sound guy for uh you remember. Oh, yeah. He was just a terrible person. But uh and now he's not the sound guy for anybody. It's weird. Anyway, uh, but he got me, you know. I tried Basil Hayden after he told me about it, so I was like, cool.

SPEAKER_04 17:42

Well, he did one thing for you then. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 17:45

Couldn't get our sound right, couldn't act like a regular decent human being, but hey, where would you be without him? I would I would not know about Basil Hayden. That's the only thing that's the only thing he gave us. Oh man. But it's pretty good. What else do you got?

SPEAKER_03 17:59

He uh I mean, Roger, when he when he steps up here, man, he's gonna tell. I don't I don't know where he brought it.

SPEAKER_05 18:04

Roger brought the freaking game, dude. Oh yeah. He brought egg rolls, he brought chicken. It was a power play, he brought all yeah, it's a power play. We know that.

unknown 18:13

It's an act of one.

SPEAKER_03 18:14

It's a power play. He's just like, hey, this is how Asian. Here I am. He's like, I'm Asian, man.

SPEAKER_05 18:19

We appreciate it, so don't stop being you, homie.

SPEAKER_03 18:23

No, there's this E.H. Taylor's small batch. Yeah. Jeez. He had uh Ed brought out Russell's uh single barrel, and then someone else brought out Russell's tenure, which is crazy because there was a Russell on site. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 18:38

I think Russell brought him something too.

SPEAKER_03 18:40

Yeah, he brought uh it would have been funnier if he brought the Russell's. Jefferson's Ocean. Ocean? Jefferson's the cafe.

SPEAKER_05 18:53

It's gonna take him a long time to get through that.

SPEAKER_04 18:55

Jefferson's ocean is good. Just side note. Jefferson's ocean is good.

SPEAKER_05 18:59

Let's just all know that Cody's house is the place where there's a lot of liquor and he's not gonna get through it all in a long time. Yeah, very much.

SPEAKER_04 19:06

He'll be a great host. Yeah. He'll be a great host for people to come over and be like, Yeah, but I'm not spending the night there again.

SPEAKER_05 19:11

Although he spent the night so many times at my house because we're like from drinking and stuff.

SPEAKER_04 19:16

My camera's not recording. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_05 19:18

Why, dude? I don't like you sometimes with your purple glasses. Do they light up? Please tell me they light up.

SPEAKER_03 19:27

Oh. Yeah, we had the whole thing.

SPEAKER_04 19:31

Remember the shoes, LA gear shoes when you step and it's like Oh, the the light up ones.

SPEAKER_05 19:36

And then uh the bubble. I don't remember the bubble. I remember pumps. All they did was like pump. Yeah, LA gear.

SPEAKER_04 19:44

LA Gear was like seven years after that.

SPEAKER_05 19:47

Oh whoa, yeah, it was like all 80s written.

SPEAKER_04 19:51

And then like in the air bubble of the shoe, they'd had lights in it, so every time you take a step. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 19:57

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know what you're talking about. Yeah. LA Gear. You had that shit, didn't you? At one time. At one time, I did. I bet you wore Heelys too, didn't you?

SPEAKER_04 20:06

No, I did not.

SPEAKER_05 20:07

That's dangerous, right? Heelys. He's dangerous. Gotta be careful there. You know what's dangerous is uh my truck was next door to the party the whole time and I didn't get my one wheel out. I should have gotten my one wheel so we could have drunk and we went around the backyard.

SPEAKER_04 20:20

You should not have.

SPEAKER_05 20:21

Nope, because there was there was a pool. I would have been there.

SPEAKER_03 20:23

And there was a lip at the uh the car's house edge. I would have been fine. There was fire. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 20:28

That fire was nice after a while, dude. It was, but we should have got more firewood. We should have, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 20:33

Did you just only have the one bundle that was in the bag?

SPEAKER_05 20:36

Uh I think two people brought a bundle. I think Tyler. Oh, just one. Okay. Well, it was funny too because we set up the tent and it was perfect for a while, and then the sun started going down, and now we're all hot. We're in the sun. I think that's where I got my sunburn.

SPEAKER_04 20:48

Uh bro, for the listeners that are like fans of the show.

SPEAKER_05 20:53

Yeah, last episode.

SPEAKER_04 20:54

The sun is fond of you.

SPEAKER_05 20:57

It is, man. Like every time we do a show, I look like I'm in a I'm in, you know, fallout and it's a and it's a nuclear freaking bomb went off.

SPEAKER_04 21:04

The funniest comment was like, Are you guys recording from heaven? Yeah. That was the funniest comment. Well, it's very funny.

SPEAKER_05 21:11

So please keep commenting those things. We love it. It is funny. Uh, and we know it. We we recognize it. So we're gonna put a shade over there. We're amateurs. Well, we're gonna put a shade over there so that the sun doesn't always hit us in on the second hour of the show, which I think we started early enough today. Maybe we didn't. We didn't. It's gonna hit us, isn't it? We started right at the right time when it's going to be so we're gonna get hit by the sun again, just get ready for it. You are me.

SPEAKER_04 21:39

Yeah, it's like I'm driving home from the episode and I have like swamp ass, so it's like, why am I sweating, dude? It's crazy. I've just been sitting here. Yeah, and the leather seeds will sweat your ass up pretty quickly. Oh, I know. I know.

SPEAKER_05 21:52

Even on a shady day it will.

unknown 21:54

You have one.

SPEAKER_05 21:55

So, Amy, how did you like the party?

SPEAKER_00 21:58

It was good. I uh I always enjoy the opportunity to be back around like the whole military community and like hear the different stories.

SPEAKER_05 22:09

Yeah, and isn't it funny how you get a bunch of Marines around and it's like you can't really tell those stories because they're so bad. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:16

Yeah. Well that you didn't you didn't even have you're telling me you didn't even have a retirement party because of the. No. Yeah. Really?

SPEAKER_00 22:23

No. Unfortunately, I retired in 2021 and it was the boot.

SPEAKER_05 22:29

Sorry.

SPEAKER_00 22:31

It was the the height of COVID. And so um I was up in the DC.

SPEAKER_04 22:36

So they weren't doing that kind of thing?

SPEAKER_00 22:38

No, I was up in DC and they definitely weren't doing that. Yeah, we couldn't have gatherings with more than I think like eight people.

SPEAKER_04 22:46

That's gnarly.

SPEAKER_00 22:47

And on top of that, I was a uh GSU, uh geographically separated unit. So my entire command was in San Antonio.

SPEAKER_05 22:59

So you wouldn't have had anybody there anyway.

SPEAKER_00 23:01

Right. And originally the plan was um my ex-stepdad, he uh is a retired Air Force officer.

SPEAKER_05 23:13

Okay, go on. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:16

Um but he um was the one that enlisted me originally, and so the plan was he was gonna come out ironically from Idaho to do my retirement ceremony. And so he couldn't fly out. And then um my grandparents um were living here in North Carolina and they couldn't come up. And so it just kind of like became if I had had a ceremony, it was gonna be with people that like I didn't really care about the fill in chairs or whatever.

SPEAKER_05 23:55

Like, dude, like we're good.

SPEAKER_00 23:57

And so it kind of like lost like all meaning. So um what I did was I had like a group of like 10 family and uh friends. Um we did a Airbnb up in Brevard and did it like a like a weekend together because um I within like a what like seven day period, I retired. I um completed my um I sat for the board for my LPN and I completed my bachelor's. And so like we were able to settle down.

SPEAKER_05 24:37

That's awesome though, that's cool.

SPEAKER_00 24:39

Yeah, so but yeah, I didn't get to have like an official ceremony, so it it was like cool to that sucks.

SPEAKER_05 24:47

But it you know how many years did you serve?

SPEAKER_00 24:49

Twenty.

SPEAKER_05 24:50

Oh yeah, retired.

SPEAKER_04 24:52

Come on now.

SPEAKER_05 24:54

Real real service people do 20 years only. I just dude. If you go under that, you're a dick.

SPEAKER_04 25:01

Put me in the camera again, civilian, just asking.

SPEAKER_05 25:04

I'm kidding, I'm kidding. And I'll tell you, man, uh yeah, it's really cool being around being around veterans of any freaking branch. I don't care what branch you're in, because we all speak a certain language. We all we all you know tell the same type of jokes and we have the six sick sense of humor and things like that. And uh actually, yesterday I got to see one of my good friends, Josh McCord. He's a pastor, and he got out after about eight or nine years as a staff sergeant. He was at HMX1. Yeah, you know, the presidential helicopter quadrant. And uh he was he is one of my I love that guy, man. And I didn't know that Cody knew him too from school, and so did Chris, who I didn't remember Chris, who was there, and he was like, I remember you, because I was the sergeant in the shop, and he was they were corporals and stuff. But I was like, he's like, I've been to your house, I've seen your guitar collection, like I've got to do that. Dude, that guy that was jamming the songs, yes, dude, and and I love that guy, he's freaking awesome. He's from Texas, dude. He makes his own whiskey, he's playing good music. Like, he didn't suck playing the music, like he sounded good, I think.

SPEAKER_00 26:12

The dude flew from Texas with a 20-pound brisket and two bottles of bourbon of hooch that he made.

SPEAKER_05 26:21

Not leaving all about he works for the airline, so it's like he put that he put the uh brisket in his check bag, so it's like yeah, dude. That dude, man, he's brisket. Is he a pilot? I like him.

SPEAKER_03 26:34

No, uh avionics repair. Gotcha.

SPEAKER_05 26:37

Yeah, most of us were avionics. He he works now as like a mechanic and stuff like that, but yeah, yeah, you're right, like that. But he was an avionics technician, so like me, Josh, Cody, most of the guys there were avionics guys. Ah, nerd. Nerd. Is that what they call it? Yeah, we were Avi. Yeah, Avi. Yeah. Oh, did you hear that a couple times? Many. Many times. What was your dad? What did your dad do?

SPEAKER_04 27:03

My dad was a detective. He was CID. Oh, that's right.

SPEAKER_05 27:04

He yeah, that's right. He was CID.

SPEAKER_04 27:06

Nowhere near that.

SPEAKER_05 27:07

No, no, no. I I like how you said that. My dad was a detective motherfucker. Not some bullshit ass avionics, dude. No, but it was cool too, because we got to.

SPEAKER_04 27:17

I just spent like on the spectrum of jobs.

SPEAKER_05 27:19

But we got to see the uh CH 53 Kilo, which is the new 53, and all of us avionics guys that worked on the Echo were nerding out, and we went out there, we had to look at it, dude. We were just like, look at the circuit breaker's over there. Where's the AFCS broom closet? Where's this? Where's that? Why'd they move the but it was just beautiful, and it was like, dude, this is the clean. Why didn't they pop the uh the back for you? I don't know, dude. I told Cody, I was like, you know that the one thing I wanted to do.

SPEAKER_03 27:45

Yeah, on the on base.

SPEAKER_05 27:46

I was like, you know, the one thing I wanted to do was get on a kilo and check it out. Yeah. That's the one thing I wanted to do. And I was nerding out on the outside because I was looking in the back and everything.

SPEAKER_04 27:55

Was this pre-erb after the ceremony? Before the ceremony. I gotcha.

SPEAKER_05 27:59

And I'm sure we could have gone out there and gotten on it. All you had to do is actually you don't have to put the ramp down, you can just open the doors and go in. I know how 53s work. But I trust you. I wasn't gonna step on anybody's toes by doing that. You know what I mean? Like it's not my aircraft, it's not my Marine Corps anymore. You know what I mean? Yeah, but I mean I know, but like I'm still respectful.

SPEAKER_03 28:20

I was kind of hoping you would, so then I would follow. Yeah, I'm going out.

SPEAKER_05 28:24

Yeah, let's go, fellas. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 28:26

Hell, if I could have been there and you said that I'd be like right from right behind you, like, oh, I can't go.

SPEAKER_05 28:30

And I'm sure I could have just said, Cody, who do we got to talk to to get on this thing? He he knows the guy that brought it over from 461. And I used to know a lot of guys from 461, but that's the only kilo uh squadron right now. But if you don't know, the the kilo is the newest CH53, which is this big giant cargo helicopter that moves troops and moves moves things.

SPEAKER_04 28:49

Um I want to say that's the aircraft that Nicole supports at FRC.

SPEAKER_05 28:53

Good. It's way better than the V-22. V-22 sucks. So opinions in the comments.

SPEAKER_04 29:00

That could be how let me say this.

SPEAKER_05 29:03

Bro, I'm a fifty, I'm a shitter guy, man.

SPEAKER_04 29:05

She's elevated me uh now on like the military stuff. So it's like I'll start like saying something and she's like, whoa. Calm down. Have we? That is not correct.

SPEAKER_05 29:15

We did a show after you got married, right?

SPEAKER_04 29:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 29:18

Okay, okay. I was like, dude, did we not? No, we didn't. Did we not? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, we did. Sorry, I told you I'm still drunk from yesterday.

SPEAKER_04 29:26

But there's like some stuff I'll say now, and she's like, uh it's close, but it's not that. And I'm like, uh oh, you mean like acronyms or no, not even like just like talking about aircraft and stuff. And she's like, but yeah, that's a sponsor.

SPEAKER_05 29:42

You know what a sponsor is? No. Hell no. What the hell is that? Spon? No. We're not gonna get into aircraft terminology, dude. I I can name so many things you would need to do.

SPEAKER_04 29:52

She's not like a parts engineer or anything like that. She like knows like that. So she's at uh Cherry Point, right? Yeah. FRC East. Social Security number.

SPEAKER_05 30:02

2139. No, that's cool, dude. FRC. I a lot that's a coveted.

SPEAKER_04 30:08

There'll just be some things, some things that I'll say, and she'll be like, Well, you're in the right. You're in the ballpark, yeah. But you you're over there. That's a foul ball. And I'm like, okay, alright, alright, alright.

SPEAKER_05 30:20

We're we're in we're in the field.

SPEAKER_03 30:22

I was like, all right.

SPEAKER_05 30:23

The files are in the computer. Yeah. Oh, that's awesome. Well, that's cool that she works there because I like I said, I was about to say that that's like a coveted place to work. I'm proud of her. People want to work at FRC.

SPEAKER_04 30:35

It's so cool. And just like I think it's so cool to sit at this table with prior service members, everybody included, and whoever is a service member sitting around. It's always I tell me and my dad talk about it a lot. I'm like, I didn't serve, but I think it's really cool that I'm like cool with a lot of people. I don't know. And I don't I don't care about the byproduct of living here. Yeah, it's like easy to have friends that served. Because like you go. But it makes me feel bad sometimes. They don't recognize that shit.

SPEAKER_05 31:02

It makes me feel bad sometimes because it's like you don't have to thank me for my you know, it's like I get like thank thank you for thanking me, but like we're not superheroes. We just serve because we we that's what we wanted to do, that's what we loved. That's what you know, that's what but but you know what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_04 31:18

It's just it might be a superhero to someone. It makes me feel bad when sometimes when people are like, I had a marine commercial and be like, dude, that is awesome. And then they join from North Dakota.

SPEAKER_03 31:31

I I think like once we get in and we we see the stuff that we do and it becomes our normal. Bro, it's selfless service. Yeah. But we chose it though, you know. We chose it for sure, but that becomes normal. But like to everyone else who hasn't like stepped in that realm, it still is how we perceived it before we we got in. We're like, that's crazy. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_05 31:51

It's like crazy. We do it all the time. We're gonna go shoot some stuff. Yeah, you know, let's but yeah, I mean, I don't know. That's I'm not saying it's bad. I love it. I I do. I would not I dude, I'd do it a thousand times. I'm not gonna bring it to a farmball level if we're gonna be able to do that. We all had it to do over again. You know, each one of us would do it over again. If I had it to do over, I would absolutely do it over again. So that's why I'm like, you don't have to thank me for that. I I appreciate that, but I enjoyed my time in the service. Yeah, there was ups and downs. There was really shitty times.

SPEAKER_04 32:23

I was away from my family a lot of times, but I chose that, you know, and I did I did it because I I mean I can't speak for everybody though, but uh like the way that it comes off whenever I say and I don't say it a lot, bro. I don't I do not say thank you for your service a lot because I know how people that serve take it. They're like you don't need to say that.

SPEAKER_05 32:43

Yeah, and and don't listen to me on that.

SPEAKER_04 32:45

No, no, no, no, it's not just you. It's like I'd like to say it to people, and I I can understand they're like, don't worry about it. But it's like from somebody that's a civilian. Yeah. Well, the other I'm not saying saying thank you for being in the Air Force or the mill in the Marine Corps or the Army. I'm saying thank you for saying yes and representing everyone. Yeah. Thanks for things are going ham for me. You you you just signed up.

SPEAKER_05 33:12

You know, when they say that to us and they're older or whatever, and like, thank you for your service because you paved the way, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 33:17

I'll tell you one of the one of the coolest uh I don't remember if I I think I did like it was on episode five that I talked about when I was with uh one six the thirty episodes ago. Yeah. So there was a bunch of course. But there was an old bunch of older guys that were um I mean you could you could see the hats. You know, we know the hats, the veteran hats that have the campaigns on them and stuff like that. Yeah, but to see those guys come back to like our battalion office and our barracks and everything else, uh one, it shows the age of the barracks, so Marine Corps do better.

SPEAKER_04 33:51

Uh two, two It's still in the same spot. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_05 33:56

Like that mold was there 20 years ago. Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 33:59

Is that my piece of gum? But yeah, seeing those guys run around there and like talk about how things were when they were in, I mean, that's that's pretty cool. Like I went up there and I talked to a couple of them, and it was it was humbling.

SPEAKER_05 34:13

Yeah, you think you have it hard? Talk to an old time, you know, a Vietnam guy, you know, or girl. But it we didn't have it hard compared to them. You know, Korea, they didn't have the gear we have, they were just freezing. Yeah, they call it the frozen chosen for a reason, you know what I mean? Like, I don't know. I just I and I do, and I feel that way about those who came before us. Thank them for the first time.

SPEAKER_04 34:36

It's basically like it's not like thank you, like on a corny level. It's like, dude, thank you for just being a part of making America what it is.

SPEAKER_05 34:46

Thank you because I can still speak English. Yes, I mean you know, German or Japanese or whatever, you know what I mean? Like, thank you for that. And and yeah, I do feel that way.

SPEAKER_04 34:55

Uh I don't know how to say it was sounding cliche.

SPEAKER_05 35:00

Yeah, it's like, I don't know. I'm less like, ah, don't it's funny.

SPEAKER_04 35:03

But this is probably maybe the one of the best parts of the show uh to to have this where three service members and one person to explain what thank you actually means when somebody that's a civilian says it because it's like when they say thank you, they're like, it's not because you're supposed to. Yeah, it's like when someone gives you a drink at the restaurant, you're like, you're supposed to say what? Thank you. Yeah. It's it's not like a thank you, like thank you for doing that. It's like, bro, especially times times 50 from a kid from Cherry Point going on Cherry Point.

SPEAKER_05 35:33

Who saw what your dad was saying?

SPEAKER_04 35:35

And it's like, thank you, because it's like, dude, it's serious. I don't give a shit what job you're doing. It thank you because my kids feel that way. It's it's all integral. It's all integral.

SPEAKER_05 35:45

Yeah, my kids feel that way because of how many deployments and stuff that they did, but they but they understood and they they were awesome about it. And I I always felt bad, but like they always understood, and they you know, they tell me that to this day. They're like, no, I mean, you did what we're not doing, you know what I mean? Like, why aren't you doing it, you fucking turd? But anyway, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. No, it's it's I I appreciate it, but again, I would do it again in a heartbeat, absolutely 100%. Um, and of course the Marine Corps every time.

SPEAKER_04 36:14

I told my mom I was considering joining the Marines when I was like 19, and she was started crying. Really?

SPEAKER_05 36:20

Started crying, and that's why you didn't do it.

SPEAKER_04 36:23

Exactly why I didn't do it. She was like, maybe you might be better off being a radio DJ. Hey, everybody has their calling. That's not what she said. No, no.

SPEAKER_05 36:34

I certainly didn't.

SPEAKER_04 36:35

It was more along the lines of that's never gonna work.

SPEAKER_05 36:38

I certainly didn't think I was gonna do 20 years in the Marine Corps. I did not. No, I don't think anybody joins thinking they're gonna do 20. I want I actually did. You did?

SPEAKER_00 36:46

You joined Um, I think because like hearing like the stories from my stepdad and like everything that he got to see and do, like at 17 I knew that like that was like the end goal for me. Yeah, that's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_05 37:05

But I also that is really good, like to just know that you want to do 20 years.

SPEAKER_00 37:10

Yeah, and like I also joined prior to 9-11 and I graduated basic training two days prior.

SPEAKER_05 37:22

So wait, wait, you came in in 01? When did you come in? 1997, baby. All right, anyway. I'm not even breathing hard yet. Go ahead, go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 37:35

But um like I came in like planning on like going for my nursing degree, getting commission, and like doing the full 20. I wanted to see the world. And like at that point in time, like going to war, like was not even not on the radar type. And literally, like I got to my tech school and and processed, I lost my ID at the Chow Hall that night.

SPEAKER_05 38:04

That's such an Air Force thing to do. Well, and and they're like you walked in the butler, the butler took away the tree. I'm kidding, I'm kidding. Come on, I'm kidding.

SPEAKER_00 38:11

But like they are they're like, no big deal. Yeah, no more, no big deal, no big deal. We'll get it. You can go and get it in the Marine Corps. The next day we're in our briefing and all hell broke loose. All of a sudden we're in Delta and we went into full lockdown.

SPEAKER_04 38:30

That's crazy. And that's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 38:32

I couldn't leave my room even to get food for three days because I didn't have my ID.

SPEAKER_05 38:38

Oh my god. And that was when 9-11 happened.

unknown 38:41

Right.

SPEAKER_04 38:41

Because everybody at that point was a personnel risk, right? We were we were deducting.

SPEAKER_05 38:48

Somebody was because I was a sergeant.

SPEAKER_04 38:50

They're drinking mad bourbon and pernicious. There's no way you're talking about the government.

SPEAKER_05 38:55

It's one of those where were you at the time. So I was a sergeant taking my collateral duty inspector test, which is CDI, it doesn't matter. You can sign off people's work on the aircraft. And uh, and the first plane hit, so I all of us ran into the ready room where the officers do their their the pilots do their kind of like uh prep for flight. And we watched the second plane hit. Dude, and they locked down the base, and it's like I yeah, I called. I was a sergeant. I was I've been in since '97.

SPEAKER_04 39:26

You know where I was? Your little baby boy. I was in Miss Hunter's fifth class. He had to be a fifth grade. I was at Miss Hunter's fifth grade class. And it was I was sorry. That shit was on the TV. It was like that's crazy going on too.

SPEAKER_03 39:44

But no, it was because it's a military town.

SPEAKER_05 39:47

Well, it was done by Israel.

SPEAKER_04 39:50

I mean it was on some stuff like the only way that I can look at it right now is by to turn the news on.

SPEAKER_05 39:57

Well, well, well. Yeah, no, we all know what's an inside job. But anyway. We like to talk about conspiracies on this show, and that's why I said that.

SPEAKER_04 40:09

They're only conspiracies if they might not be true. That's right. This is very true. There it is. There it is. It's like, oh, alien aliens exist. Aliens exist.

SPEAKER_05 40:18

Keep your keep your eyes. Yeah, keep your eyes off the Epstein files. Aliens exist.

SPEAKER_04 40:22

I don't know if this one is like uh speculation anymore.

SPEAKER_05 40:26

Which one?

SPEAKER_04 40:27

The aliens? No. The one. The files? Those. And how do you have the same bro? Say goodbye because I will open it up. Say goodbye to the Hot Ashes podcast after what I'm saying. It's gonna be like you know, either either the channel gets shut down or one of us doesn't exist anymore.

SPEAKER_05 40:47

First of all, these are all opinions, they're jokes. This is for entertainment purposes purposes only. I love myself.

SPEAKER_03 40:53

I don't have any ambitions of falling off my boat. Yes, ever considered unaliving you. I never unalive myself.

SPEAKER_05 41:00

Yeah. Amy didn't say it. My brakes are in great working order.

SPEAKER_04 41:04

So if we're gonna go down this road, I'll lead it off with this. How do you have a same training exercise through the FAA that is the same exact scenario that happened that day and the real thing happened?

SPEAKER_05 41:20

Well, how did they find a a passport perfectly like perfectly?

SPEAKER_04 41:24

That's way beyond that's way beyond what you're you're you're just ahead. That's way farther.

SPEAKER_03 41:29

How did they find the wrong engine on the ground?

SPEAKER_04 41:33

How did they how did they train a pilot that said, I'm not too concerned with learning how to land?

SPEAKER_05 41:37

Why did they see five Israelis on a building top celebrating right after the first hit? That's weird.

SPEAKER_03 41:42

Why is all these questions all these questions and no one else is even thinking about it?

SPEAKER_05 41:48

A lot of people are thinking about it.

SPEAKER_03 41:50

Why did building seven go down because of a little tremor?

SPEAKER_05 41:52

Why did the president not react when he was told about it?

SPEAKER_04 41:55

And then people go, What's building seven?

SPEAKER_05 41:57

Oh, you know why it went down? Because the guy that owned the building. The guy that owned the towers owned building seven too. So he's like, when you take these down, take that one too, because it's you know a big insurance thing. Everybody knows if it's happening. No plane, no parts, no nothing.

unknown 42:13

Crazy.

SPEAKER_05 42:14

But everybody knows this. That's what's the we are not breaking ground here. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 42:20

I want to put respect on everybody that is not here anymore because of that. Like I want to put respect on all those folks. People who get killed for some reason. That's right. I'm gonna put respect on those folks' names. Absolutely. But when you leave when tech when the technology age takes over and you look back, hindsight's 2020. You're like, well, it's all coming out now. We're all seeing it. You've even shifted my view on the We didn't go, dude. Big dot in the sky. We didn't go, bro.

SPEAKER_05 42:50

There's no freaking way we went. There's it's absolutely impossible.

SPEAKER_04 42:55

I am 75% on board. Like I don't know, man. I hate that.

SPEAKER_00 42:59

How do you think that if they talked via the phone? Rotary phone.

SPEAKER_04 43:04

Rotary phone. There's no way. When in a real time feed. But they come up with all I drive down 58 and I lose cell service to talk to my friend.

SPEAKER_00 43:12

At that point in time, they were still having party lines.

SPEAKER_05 43:16

How was the picture in the paper the next day? When the picture was taken from the moon. With what camera? Whatever they left there, I guess. And then sent the thing back. Because you know how fast high-speed internet was in 1964. We're gonna change the name of the podcast. This is like we didn't land on the moon podcast. And then the very next day, the paper has that picture. Yeah. In the in the come on, dude. Like anybody with a brain knows that didn't happen.

SPEAKER_00 43:41

And they also admitted that they recorded recorded it just in like a big thing.

SPEAKER_05 43:47

Oh yeah, they were like just in case. Remember the movie the Fly Me to the Moon? Yes. They did the they did the they uh and you know what they call the mission? The Artemis. Oh that's it. Hide anything anymore, dude. They hide nothing now, dude. Nothing is there.

SPEAKER_04 44:03

Now it's just the teaser. It's all joking you. It's like idiot you.

SPEAKER_05 44:07

These idiots are not going to ever get it, even though we all get it. Yeah. Because what are we going to do about it?

SPEAKER_00 44:11

It's also about it.

SPEAKER_05 44:16

Well, yeah, and and that's why they put so many fake videos out, too, because it's like, oh, well, what's fake and what's real?

unknown 44:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 44:21

I mean, you can go a step farther and be like, how much does the average American care about going to the moon?

SPEAKER_05 44:26

We were in a we were in a race with Russia. So you would think that Russia would have would have called us out on the fake. However, Putin, when he was talking about the stuff, he he even he even was like, he already fucking knew it was fake. Yeah. So he's like, he didn't say anything.

SPEAKER_04 44:40

Let's call somebody from the depths of the Midwest or the just unaccessed parts of the Northwest or the Orientals of North Carolina. How many people really care if we went to the moon or not? Probably not that many people.

SPEAKER_05 44:55

So this is where you had to be distracted.

SPEAKER_00 44:57

I would argue that because like our parents, like that's like a hill that they will die on the other.

SPEAKER_05 45:04

Because they were shown this. They were shown that. Just like when you walked into kindergarten, you saw a globe.

SPEAKER_00 45:09

And it's fact.

SPEAKER_05 45:10

And you saw dinosaurs. And you saw everything that it has to be. You saw all these things that were contradictory to the Bible. Yeah. That's why NASA. That's why NASA has to exist, man. We gotta be distracted.

SPEAKER_00 45:26

And we just like promised, what, another 35 billion to go back? Why not?

SPEAKER_05 45:32

What did we accomplish? We went around, we got CGI pictures.

SPEAKER_04 45:35

You don't even bring anything back.

SPEAKER_05 45:37

CGI pictures.

SPEAKER_04 45:38

There's nothing that's a benefit of it. But it's crazy expenditure.

SPEAKER_05 45:42

Yeah. What treaty is the only treaty never to be broken?

unknown 45:46

I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 45:47

The Treaty of Versailles.

SPEAKER_05 45:48

The Antarctic Treaty. Why do you think that no one can live there? Nobody's allowed to go there.

SPEAKER_00 45:53

You're not allowed to go there.

SPEAKER_04 45:55

Because that's where the fucking sites are.

SPEAKER_05 45:57

That's where the wall is, brother. Oh shit. Here we go. What wall? The wall that surrounds the flat Earth.

SPEAKER_04 46:04

So which one are you?

SPEAKER_00 46:05

Oh it's where the giants live. Open your mind.

SPEAKER_05 46:11

Clip it. These are just these are just this is entertainment. It's entertainment. No, I don't know. Dinosaurs did not exist.

SPEAKER_04 46:19

Now I'm genuinely interested now, so I'll send you some literature. Nah, I don't I don't know how to read.

SPEAKER_05 46:27

Have you ever seen a real dinosaur bone? Nope. Nope. Nobody has.

SPEAKER_04 46:33

I'll feed into every question. Nobody has, dude. Nobody has.

SPEAKER_05 46:36

Nobody has because they didn't exist. You know what did exist? Giants existed.

SPEAKER_00 46:40

And there's proof.

SPEAKER_05 46:41

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:42

But have you ever been to the Smithsonian in DC and seen the actual stuff that allegedly went into space? Yes. That looks like a lot of people.

SPEAKER_04 46:54

This is where we talked about let's say I can make that in my kitchen.

SPEAKER_05 46:59

It's like duct tape and tin foils. I live in a foil.

SPEAKER_04 47:03

I have stuff in my kitchen that could make a spaceship.

SPEAKER_05 47:06

But you can go through the Van Allen belt. Don't worry about the the 3,000 degree melting degree, melting point that none of our metals would ever survive. Forget about the fucking radiation that would completely cook everybody in it. Ignore it.

SPEAKER_00 47:21

Well, even with the the latest moon mission.

SPEAKER_05 47:25

We are getting canceled, dude. We went high until the rock and go viral. This is fun though. I like it. This is more controversial than his yeti statement.

SPEAKER_04 47:36

I'd rather stay on this topic.

SPEAKER_05 47:38

I'll bring it on you. Let's go. Go ahead, Amy. Let's do it.

SPEAKER_00 47:41

Well, we're also supposed to ignore the uh flight path of the Air Force plane that just happened to circle around the area that it re-entered. And we have recording. Oh, you're talking about Artemis? Artemis hitting making contact in the ocean, no steam.

SPEAKER_05 48:04

No steam. It was 5,000 degrees.

SPEAKER_04 48:06

And they instantly touch the door immediately. 5,000 degrees. Instantly touch the door one day steam. And they grab the door immediately.

SPEAKER_05 48:13

And then you take a ball at 3,000 degrees. Boom. It's melt, it's boiling. Yeah. This thing's 5,000 degrees, hits down, nothing. And the dude's like, hey, I'm gonna, I'm gonna open the door. Wake up.

SPEAKER_00 48:27

The astronauts are immediately after surviving and coming back to Earth, they're immediately able to walk out gravity.

SPEAKER_04 48:38

There's no way they're in the way with full gravity. There's no fucking way. Excuse my language. I'm sorry. Where's the damn thing?

SPEAKER_00 48:43

Then what, like three, four days later, they're showing them like having to go through rehab. Like pre-learning how to walk. So they could walk immediately after, but three days later. I saw that. I saw that.

SPEAKER_05 48:57

It's like, but you can walk right off the ship and now you're going through rehab. Yes. Bro, you guys have to get a better planner for your fucking fake shit. You gotta get somebody.

SPEAKER_04 49:06

If you're in space, you're going to be in space, you're gonna experience muscular dystrophy.

SPEAKER_05 49:12

And when they're laundering this much money, I mean I didn't want to go there. When they're when they're just you would think that they would have better CGI people. The shadow was not there for the ball, but the shadow was there for her hands. Yeah. Like it's dude, the ball the the thing went through his ear. Like the bag went through his ear. It had a dot on it one time, then it didn't. Yeah. Like it's like, dude, you guys are not even trying to fake this correctly.

SPEAKER_00 49:39

Or they're eating like MREs that showing like the heating packet, and you're supposed to be able to use that when there's like what type of gas is floating around you.

SPEAKER_05 49:51

Right. Because you know the heating packet MRE, you pour the water in, you thought how would that work in zero gravity? Yeah, things that make you go. So yeah, basically. But anyway, entertainment purposes only, we just like to uh So how about those cowboys? We like to rattle the cage.

SPEAKER_00 50:11

They're already out of the playoffs, sorry.

SPEAKER_04 50:12

Yeah, they've already not been in the playoffs.

SPEAKER_05 50:15

Isn't that scripted too? NFL scripted too. Yeah, it's scripted.

SPEAKER_00 50:20

We just have to wait for the emblem for next year's Super Bowl to see who goes.

SPEAKER_05 50:23

Oh, that's right, to see who goes. Yep. Isn't it Madden or something like that you have to look at?

SPEAKER_00 50:27

No, that's the curse.

SPEAKER_05 50:28

Oh, that's the curse. Okay. That is a curse. Are the Redskins ever gonna go back? No. I I actually're not a team. Yeah, shut up. It's the Redskins, it's not the Commanders. How could the Redskins go to the Super Bowl when they're not a team? It's the Redskins, it's not the Commanders. I'm just saying. I'll never call them that. They're the Redskins. I'm a lifelong Redskins fan. When the tribe itself is petitioning to advocating for it, yeah, because guess who came up with the logo and the name and everything? The motherfuckers that the Blackfeet tribe.

SPEAKER_04 50:59

I didn't mean to say that. My bad. That's terrible. Crazy.

SPEAKER_05 51:02

A Native American is who who they made it after. You know, it was an honor. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 51:09

It wasn't we weren't it's it wasn't like it's a representation.

SPEAKER_05 51:12

And I can I can see maybe like, okay, well, the term redskin is a dip Dude, really. Yeah. Really? We're splitting dick hairs at this point. It's not the word. You know what I mean? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 51:23

I mean, it's not like I walked into the bar and was like, yo, where's the at? Oh, we're getting canceled.

SPEAKER_05 51:31

This is gonna be fun.

SPEAKER_03 51:33

Oh man.

SPEAKER_05 51:33

No, I seriously, I it's so stupid. But the Vikings, they can keep their name. They raped and pillaged. They can keep their name. The Braves. The Braves. No, actually, uh the Indians had to change theirs to Cleveland. Yeah, to uh the something. The Guardians. Yeah. The Guardians. You can have pirates. You can have pirates who also raped and pillaged. You can have Vikings. You can't have the Redskins who were proud to be, you know. I mean, you hail to the freaking Redskins. You could cancel the Chiefs of Half-Changers. Hail to the Redskins. I said it. Hail to the Redskins. You can cancel the Chiefs.

SPEAKER_00 52:10

When you go to the Kings.

SPEAKER_05 52:11

Hail to the Redskins. Hail the Kids. Everyone's singing. Yeah. Braves on the Warpets.

SPEAKER_04 52:18

It's just like whenever you go to the freaking um, what is it? Arrowhead Field? The Chiefs. Oh. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 52:26

And how come the Chiefs are still the Chiefs? Like, bro, if we're gonna get if we're gonna get stupid and woke, then get stupid and woke across the whole fucking thing so we can stop watching the fucking NFL all the time.

SPEAKER_04 52:36

There's literally a team called the Raiders. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_05 52:40

The Raiders. And where are they?

SPEAKER_06 52:43

Vegas.

SPEAKER_05 52:46

Come on, man. Where were they before? You're in LA.

SPEAKER_06 52:50

Oakland.

SPEAKER_05 52:51

Yeah, but like it's like, dude. The town. You're just naming your your town like after what all the illegal like thuggery that happens in your town. You know what I mean? Wow. Well, isn't it? They're not known for being peaceful, like uh protesters out there. No, like Raiders. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, what do you what's that? Oh, yeah, the fan group, you gotta be careful that. No, no, but I'm not talking about the fangers.

SPEAKER_04 53:16

You don't want to be fucking around out there.

SPEAKER_05 53:17

Nah, my buddy was a Raiders fan. I don't care about the I don't care how strapped you are. There's like There's one team I don't like, and that's the Dallas Cowboys. Never mind. Screw them, hate them, but I don't care about any other team. I'll I'll watch them. I don't care. It's just why do they get to have their name and the Redskins don't?

SPEAKER_04 53:35

Which is basically maybe the greatest rivalry in NFL football history.

SPEAKER_05 53:39

Yeah, which used to be. Cowboys and Redskins. But now it's not. But now it's not anymore.

SPEAKER_04 53:45

You will really see football fans that it's like, hey, I'm a Seahawks fan. Hey, I'm a Dolphins fan, aka me. You are a Dolphins fan. That's what I'm saying. Like, Lace is out, Dan. You could have fans from every team, and it's like, yo, the Cowboys and the Redskins are playing. And everybody's like, damn, I want to see that. I know. I want to see that game. I don't know. I love you, Roger. I love you. You want to see that's the best game to watch. Anybody else?

SPEAKER_05 54:11

Please. I love this dude, man. See, like most people, they sit on the side, they just don't, they just watch and they don't bumps on a lot.

SPEAKER_04 54:19

This dude.

SPEAKER_05 54:19

No, no, no, no, no, no. But when Roger's here, it's like it's like his chicken wings and and freaking uh egg roll. He just wants to make everybody happy. It's such a good team.

SPEAKER_04 54:30

No cowboys and redskins. That's a game for you.

SPEAKER_05 54:32

Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_00 54:33

I like the Redskins.

SPEAKER_05 54:34

Yes. Is that your team?

SPEAKER_00 54:36

No, I'm a Panthers. Keep pounding.

SPEAKER_05 54:39

Panthers? That's my secondary team. I am a secondary team. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 54:44

And I I grew up uh Bears fan because my mom's from Chicago. The Bears. Dub Bears.

SPEAKER_05 54:52

See you, George. Love you, George. See you tomorrow, buddy. Love you, brother. Love you, bud. That's my bear actor. Yeah. So I thought about that. I was like, you know what? I'm not a Commanders fan. I'm a Reddit.

SPEAKER_04 55:05

The Bears are about to be good. I'm telling you. I'm speaking it into existence right now. The Bears could have game with before or after a move from Soldier Field.

SPEAKER_03 55:13

Yeah. Are they going to move? They're already building the stadium. Are they really?

SPEAKER_04 55:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 55:18

Oh. I think so. No. No, I thought they were building the stuff. Alright, delete, delete, delete.

SPEAKER_00 55:24

They're talking about moving them to what, Indiana? No way.

SPEAKER_05 55:29

They're not going to be the Chicago Bears anymore.

SPEAKER_04 55:32

I mean, like, I think they're going to build a whole skit about them, dude.

SPEAKER_00 55:35

The problem bears they don't have to build a few years. There's nowhere to go. Right.

SPEAKER_05 55:38

There's nowhere to go to build it. Damn, dude. That's for real. They're moving.

SPEAKER_00 55:44

It's not official.

SPEAKER_05 55:46

They want to move.

SPEAKER_04 55:47

Let's say it that way. They want to move. They would love to get out of Soldier Field, but like Soldier Field is legendary.

SPEAKER_00 55:54

Well, it's just like this.

SPEAKER_05 55:55

Legendary.

SPEAKER_00 55:57

Like go into You know what I'm saying, though. Yeah, but like go into uh Redskins games, like RFK or or FedEx Field. FedEx Field. Like you go in there and everything is ancient.

SPEAKER_05 56:12

It's a dude.

SPEAKER_00 56:13

The the TVs, the game.

SPEAKER_05 56:17

I only went to one game. It was oh my god, it was magical.

SPEAKER_00 56:21

I I got to go to a handful because I was stationed up there.

SPEAKER_05 56:24

Cool, cool, cool. But and then like I went I went when they destroyed the Chicago Bears. Because we were we it was Halloween, actually. We were gonna drink. It was me and my two brothers and my cousin, and we were it was Halloween. We were all dressed as like vampires with Redskins capes on. And uh we met the chief, you know the chief? We met the hogs, hoggettes or whatever. Uh but we were gonna drink every single time the Redskins scored, and we happened to annihilate the Bears that day yeah. So we were all like there it is. So we had to stay with a family member because sorry I did that. We had to stay with a family member because you know our family lives up there, but uh it was it was a fun time.

SPEAKER_00 57:04

But like going to parks like that, and uh I got to go to candlestick when I was out in California. So like going to the older like stadiums, like yes, the technology uh like is drastically lacking, but it's history.

SPEAKER_05 57:23

Yeah, uh absolutely. Oh, come on. So yeah, you can update the technology, but like at what point when you move stadiums, now you're gonna lose some fans that you know what I mean. Like Redskins did that. They moved from RFK Stadium to FedEx Field, which the stupid owner that allowed the name change named FedEx Field. What was his name? Who cares?

SPEAKER_04 57:44

I don't think I think you missed the mark on like they're not gonna follow. No, I mean look at the Raiders. The Raiders still have a war. No, they will, they will, they will.

SPEAKER_05 57:56

But what I'm saying was like when the Redskins changed, if you look at Redskins games, they're still wearing their Redskin stuff, not the stupid Washington Commanders stuff.

SPEAKER_04 58:04

But they they're not lost as fans, though.

SPEAKER_05 58:07

Right, but they're still there, but they're not acknowledging the new names.

SPEAKER_04 58:10

And and I've talked to plenty of people on plenty of bars that are like, it's the Redskins, and I'm like, Me too, dude, me too. I'm not even a Redskins fan.

SPEAKER_05 58:17

I hope we can keep this going. Do not accept the stupid fucking name change because of woke bullshit. Just keep calling them the Redskins.

SPEAKER_00 58:26

The woke people aren't even the ones that are buying the tickets anyways. No, no.

SPEAKER_05 58:31

There are people that don't even get the biggest thing. Snyder, that was a shit. That was a stupid thing. They just want to watch the Snyder. Yeah. Dan Snyder. Dan Snyder. Stupid idiot. Yeah. Dan Snyder, you're an idiot.

SPEAKER_04 58:40

And didn't he like sell the team after that?

SPEAKER_05 58:42

Remember when he was like forced to sell. Remember when he was like, I'll never change the name. I'll never change the name, and then he changes the name. Or was he like on like money? It's all about money. It's always about money.

SPEAKER_00 58:53

Well, they they essentially were calling all the owners together, and they either he was gonna sell and be able to make money off of it, or they were gonna force him to sell and it was gonna be for a significant loss of they forced his hand.

SPEAKER_04 59:13

And it's crazy, it's like why is that pressure? Why is why is that pressure putting on somebody that is not in a regular state? You know, and it's like it's not a regular state. You don't see people doing that shit to the fucking Indianapolis Colts.

SPEAKER_05 59:26

No, but this is why college football is good. It's so much better. They're not yet better, they're not yet owned. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04 59:33

You're about to misspeak, but go ahead.

SPEAKER_05 59:36

It's better, it's better because the NFL's scripted and owned, and it's all about money. It's not a big one.

SPEAKER_04 59:41

It's out now. It's not because NFL Jr.

SPEAKER_05 59:44

now because now players can make money. You're right. You're right, you're right.

SPEAKER_03 59:47

But but we do have Nick Saban that is taking a head on this. You mean Alabama Jones? Alabama Jones. Yeah. Alabama Jones. God, that was so funny, dude. So like Nick Saban has been screaming this for the past two years on College Football Game Day. He's been screaming this. It will ruin it. Yes. Like it had there has to be rules. Like all these players, uh like the Georgia quarterback that went like team to team to team. Carson Beck. Carson Beck had what, six, seven years of eligibility.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:14

And I'm a freaking Georgia fan, mind you. What are we doing? Seven, six, seven, six, seven. I'm a Georgia fan.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:20

It's like, uh, well, let's get this out of the way. I don't like Carson Beck. Anyway, he's a good quarterback. Don't like him. Let's move on.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:28

Onward. And hard take.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:32

No, I love him to death. Fuck him, but though.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:34

So who was uh who was the Oregon quarterback? Uh oh shit.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:40

No, that was Washington.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:41

Well, he's in the league now. Yeah, he because he was another one that had like five or six years quarterback.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:47

Um shit, Oregon.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:50

Because he went from Oregon to someone else.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:52

But they got dusted off twice by Ohio this past year. Didn't they? What's that? Didn't Oregon lose to Ohio twice this past year? Yeah. And like one way. But I think Oregon beat them one time.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:06

Yeah, the first year that they played them. Like Oregon and Oregon put it on.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:09

And then when they played again, it was like destruction. Like who was the receiver that went crazy? The receiver freaking was Jeremiah Smith. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:19

Jeremiah Smith and then freaking alien mode. Yeah, I can't remember the one. They had a good show. Was it Garrett? Garrett Wilson might have been playing one of those. He might have been a couple years before that. But yeah, Jeremiah Smith. Man, that's a guy. So I've never bought a college jersey. But back to your point. Back to your point. Back to your point, though. But Alabama Jones, he's headed up. He's he's speaking with Congress, and you know, he's uh he's even met with the president and everything else to put some rules on this because the it is there's gotta be a barrier, bro. Yeah, there's gotta be a barrier. There has to be a barrier. So these guys are staying in longer because they're making more as well.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:54

Why would I I So to your point, so there's they're staying in longer for I know I'm not gonna go to the league. I know I'm not like a th third round draft pick. I'm I'm pretty good. I'm pretty good in conference US. I'm college good. I'm college good, and this dude's like I got two million for you.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:09

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:10

All right, well, I'm about to take walking and basket weaving women's studies to do another year and play football.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:20

And under the lesbian studies.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:23

No, I'm just saying it's like just weird classes you can take.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:26

Like it's like but yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:30

So these guys are standing longer.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:36

Shador Sanders. I mean, now he's a starter, but it's Cleveland Browns, so that's like a 13th grade. It used to be a lot of things.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:42

I think they should just start him.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:44

Start Shador Sanders, start him. Is he not going to start this year? He should start. He should start. But I don't think he's the guy, though.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:52

I don't think he's on that team he is. On that team.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:54

On that team, yeah, for sure. But yeah, these guys.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:56

On that team he is.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:57

Yeah. I mean, I agree with that on that team. But these guys are making more money in college on their fourth, fifth, and sixth years of eligibility. That's the problem. They're standing there because they know that they can get that money.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:08

And you got dudes coming into the city. They're not trying as hard as they used to try to get to the city. And they like they shy away from the contracts because they're coming into it on a six mil deal already.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:24

That's what I'm saying. Like, if if and I don't know what the right answer is, but if they're making someone, turn the money off. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:32

Or turn the money off. Or cap it too much.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:35

They used to like work their ass. How do those headphones sound, by the way? Dude, they're awesome. They good?

SPEAKER_03 1:03:40

Oh yeah. Bo 700, baby.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:41

I forgot to ask you about that. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:43

Literally turn the money off.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:45

No, I get that. That's where I'm at. Turn the damn money off. I agree. For college.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:50

Yes.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:51

And also the NFL should probably cap some of that shit because it's You can't say that because I have an argument for you for that. Well, go ahead. I don't, I'm just I'm just talking, dude. I don't know. I like this.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:03

Yeah, you might be right.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:04

Let's look at baseball.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:06

I may be crazy. Baseball is out of control. Soccer, same thing. Like, what are we doing?

SPEAKER_04 1:04:10

Zero salary cap.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:12

I mean, it's like, dude. So it's like, how much maybe like 15 years? How much does a person that's that's giving their life in Afghanistan make?

SPEAKER_03 1:04:23

In 2011, I I was over there. I made maybe. Roger, I knew I would get here. I knew it would be to this. Come on, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:30

Come on, but I knew I would get to this. Come on, though. Am I right? Am I wrong?

SPEAKER_04 1:04:34

You're asking a person that's gonna sympathize.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:36

You're gonna go over there and put your life in danger for this country. For this country. We're gonna watch the gladiator games. That's what it is. No, that's what it is. It's the gladiator games. It's hey, let's give the people what they want. Let's let's let's have the people watch the gladiator games. And we're gonna pay all these people freaking hundreds of millions of dollars to throw a fucking football when you're over in Iraq getting shot at and wondering if you're ever gonna see your fucking mom again. You're not wrong, bro. Yeah, I'm not wrong. Dude, I'm getting pissed. Yeah, 2011.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:07

Why would they think I made like 40,000? Then there should be no salary cap. You know what a salary cap is? It means that certain organizations don't have enough money to play ball.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:15

Yeah, no, that's true. That's what that means. But I also think it's disgusting how much they make.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:20

The Yankees have too much money. So the uh freaking Rockies were gonna cap that.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:26

Oh, and there are certain ones that are that are known as the money uh, you know, you got these m major money clubs. The freaking Yankees. Right, right, right, right. The Dodgers. But yeah, yeah. You got EOD over there blowing up trying to fucking save, you know, somebody from if a fucking IP.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:49

Is there a salary cap? I don't think there is a salary cap in baseball. Pull it up, Jamie.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:53

I don't know, but I think it's exactly I think it's very I think it's very fucking r uh wrong the way that we What we put our money into in this fucking country.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:03

The last thing I remember is Robinson Canoe's no salary cap. Dakota confirmed it.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:10

Yeah, so they have a luxury tax, a soft cap. No, swing. To swing a thing. To swing a bang. So it's a competitive balance thing. And I get it, dude. No, fuck that.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:20

They're great. They're great athletes. These guys are athletes that are going out making hundreds of millions of dollars while the last contract I see. Men and women are dying overseas for very little money.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:33

They're making more money than like neurosurgeons.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:36

Yeah, yeah. Bro, people who are saving lives. That's our celebrities.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:48

It's like that's our royalty. Are you making it? Oh yes. We put our royalty. I don't like celebrities.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:55

I don't like I'm asking you this like for real. I'm not even saying it for like dude.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:00

I hope you're still drunk from yesterday, so um, this is fine.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:03

Truth serum.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:04

Yeah. I hate celebrities, especially when they put their political views out there. Oh, okay. Because like we don't give one flying fuck what your idiot brain thinks. Because guess what? You're an actor. You act like other people. You're not smart.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:19

Ricky Jerveys on the Emmys is like most of you. Uh like the love of schooling as Greta Thunberg. So come up here. Exactly. Accept your award. Thank your agent. Thank your God.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:30

Fuck up, dude. Like Tenacious D. But just kind of read. We don't want to hear your fucking opinions on politics. Entertain us, monkey. And you have to play your fucking music.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:39

You've played two whole albums of talking about smoking weed. So it's like a row.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:44

I don't listen to a single fucking politic. I don't give a shit what side they're on. Like you're a fucking, you're an actor. You know nothing. You're a theater kid. You grew up as a fucking theater kid. No one's scared of you. You're not fucking cool, Robert De Niro. You're a fucking nerd.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:00

Robert De Niro, you lost me because I don't like it. Fuck Robert De Niro, he's a fucking nerd. I could say something as the mediator of this group. We're all Americans. And the motherfuckers say it. They can say it.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:12

Exactly. But they have this platform now where they can fucking speak. That's what's not fair. That's what's not fair. And it's like, we didn't elect you to speak on this matter. Idiot. Shut the fuck up. You don't need to be on the red carpet talking about galaxies. We want you to act.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:27

Like, we don't need that.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:28

Like you're getting mad, dude.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:30

Well, it's even worse when they're not even U.S. citizens.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:33

I can see it.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:34

When when they're not even U.S. citizens and they're commentating on our politics. Yeah. It's like Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:41

Yeah. Or or when they're fucking you know, Somali politicians that somehow got into office and don't have any American interests at heart. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 1:08:51

When they're a brotherfucker.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:53

Exactly. Exactly. Hates America. We are turning on this one. Hates America serving in Congress, and we're just all everybody's okay with it. You know what I mean? Net worth is like Hey Roger, what's up, buddy? Oh Roger. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:08

There you go.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:08

Hey, there you go.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:10

First off, uh, smoking red meat lovers for Tonga. I love this song.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:15

He knows exactly how to get into the show.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:17

Well, it took a while, right? I need a couple reps. And then this one is the same thing that they're drinking the uh Tennessee standard.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:26

119 proof. Let's hear your. 118. Let's hear.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:29

I think that that first drink must have hit you because you read the eight as a nine, but let's hear your uh let's hear your opinion.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:37

Because I saw you getting all heated and went and get on. I was like, yeah, let's get Roger.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:41

This is the whole the reason why we get bothered by it is because we expect entertainment and politics, and those are two separate things. Anytime somebody crosses over one way or the other, that's where we get upset, right?

SPEAKER_05 1:09:53

Yeah, fuck Jane Fonda.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:55

But think about think about it like this. Where if you wanted to get the public to be distracted, where would you put money? Entertainment.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:06

Yeah, entertainment for sure.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:07

Entertainment, sports.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:09

Do you know that uh that NASA owns like a production company? Did you know that? You know that. Yeah. Keep going.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:20

See, I was trying to postpone my uh my entrance until we get further away from the conspiracy. They're an entertainment.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:26

They're an entertainment company. Everybody knows Stanley Kubrick did the fucking anyway. Good.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:33

But that's why we get so bothered by it, is because we expect this is my entertainment, this is my politics. Yeah. Same thing when you see a politician acting up and just doing the whole thing, you get ears in the book.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:43

And I'm I'm about that, dude. Mitch McConnell, he is a fucking statue. Get the hell out of Congress. That dude, he's he can't even talk. He's like, sit there and sit the curve. He's fucking done term limits. Yeah. Fucking term limits. The people have been screaming about term limits for fucking decades. And these assholes in Congress won't vote it in because that means they won't be able to have their fucking power. Yeah, their power, their money, their fucking APAC, and all that bullshit.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:10

He looks like a turtle that escaped the ship. Let's go. Let's go.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:14

Yeah, he's terrible. He needs to get the fuck out of office. There needs to be term limits. There absolutely needs to be. Shutter?

SPEAKER_04 1:11:22

I'm about to call the show. Can I talk on the phone line?

SPEAKER_03 1:11:26

Oh yeah, there we go.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:27

Oh, yeah. He's gonna call in. Yeah, call me. This is gonna be fun. Okay, so we're gonna have him on Blue. Hold on, let me make sure I'm connected. There we go. Connect. Alright, I'm connected. Go ahead and call me.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:43

This is gonna be awesome.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:44

This is gonna be great. But you have to go out there, I think. Anyway, you know what?

SPEAKER_06 1:11:48

TK Vader.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:50

Alright, guys, here we go. We got TK on line five. TK, how you doing, buddy? Um, I'm still here. Yeah, how you doing, buddy?

SPEAKER_04 1:12:01

Doing good. All right, continue because now I got my own opinions.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:05

Oh, you just wanted to you just wanted to be on, but like not beyond beyond? What are you doing?

SPEAKER_04 1:12:10

You can't take me off this damn show.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:13

Fuck Roger. All right, go ahead, Roger. Go ahead, Roger. Go ahead with what you were saying.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:18

No, I I think I I I just said my point was that when whenever we get bothered by people crossing those lines, it's like no no I like it's like I like my stake like this, I like my politics like this. That goes through. I know, dude. You gotta get the hell out of here.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:36

Alright, pause, pause, pause.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:40

Anyway, uh, yeah, it's like when uh when any celebrity speaks out about anything, I'm like, shut your stupid pie hole and just act. That's all we hired you for. We didn't elect you to tell us your fucking opinion. We didn't elect you to tell us, you know, to s to get rid of our guns. Fuck you. Both sides of the aisle. I was fuck you. Both sides of the aisle, 100%. Both fucking sides, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:04

You gotta think about why you're getting upset with that. Is it because you're like this, you're you're expecting this thing, and it's not coming out this way, and that's why you're getting upset.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:14

No, I I think it's also super sketchy because they're speaking as if it's their opinions, and then you find out that they're getting paid like $500,000. Both sides.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:27

Both sides are relative.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:30

100%.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:31

Yeah, but it's all money.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:33

It comes out as if it's fact and conviction when it's purely a paid gig for them.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:41

Absolutely money. Look at the feud between Candace Owens and Erica Kirk. And that's on the right side. And by right, I mean the correct side. But uh I we're not political here, I'm just kidding. Uh but there's a feud because money. It's all money. It's like you all fucking money, dude.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:59

On the politics side, when all the antics go off, right? It's kind of like acting. Yeah. It's very dramatic, very dramatic, and you know, grabs the attention, and it's still distracting you. Yeah. And at the end of the day, that's why it bothers you. Well, that's all. Because you're like, this is all an act.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:14

That's also yeah, that's also when they do it all. Like there's all these false flags, false bullshit. And that's why it bothers you.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:22

That's why if everything stayed in its lane and the way it was, without any conflict, no distraction, everything would be fine. Yeah. But the second thing things pop off one way or the other, and people start acting a little bit differently outside of their lanes, that's when it bothers you.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:37

I think that's why politics have gotten so theatric here recently. It's so theatrical.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:42

And that's why it's hard to watch.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:43

Same with entertainment, right? I think that that like uh it makes us like as a country, like when our politicians are like whole. It's embarrassing, dude. It's soap opera. So embarrassing.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:53

Yeah, dude. And I really wish they weren't owned by a certain country. I really do, dude. Because it's like you can just look it up, you look it up, you can see which country owns us. Follow the money, you can see who owns us. And it's like, we can't expect anything to go right when another country owns us. 100%. 100%.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:12

There's just the puppet mass.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:14

We're getting canceled. Canceled. This episode is definitely it was nice being with you guys. When you call out corruption, when you call out corruption, you get canceled. Yes. Corruption. And that's what it is. And you got these people that are fucking they're like cheerleaders for this this country that doesn't give a flying fuck about us. Yeah. All they do is receive billions of dollars from us. What do we get in return? Not a fucking thing. Not a thing. What do we get in return? We get told what to do and we do it. Yeah. Yeah. What do you think about that, Dakota?

SPEAKER_03 1:15:48

Oh my god. Trust me.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:50

Trust me. I see you over there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:53

Just fuming.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:54

You know what?

SPEAKER_05 1:15:55

Well, you've been around the world and you've seen it firsthand.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:57

Oh, yeah. 100%.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:58

We've all seen it firsthand, but you've seen it like recently firsthand. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:02

You know, so the the politics, the the charades, it's it's all it's all politics, all fake.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:08

Everything the world is a fucking stage. And I I tell you, everybody says this, but it's a stage. It's all a stage.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:16

That's why I personally have no plans on unaliving myself. I love my life. This is entertainment only. I love everything about my life. I love all of you. I know that all of you love your life. So, but the world is a fucking stage. This is this is ridiculous that we're living in this.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:31

Every time something happens or someone says something, like one the hanta virus, dude.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:36

Yeah, I'm they're gearing us up for another fucking lockdown. Like you think we're gonna fucking do that again?

SPEAKER_00 1:16:42

On top of hiding, like distracting from the what, like 12 uh the Disney cruise?

SPEAKER_05 1:16:48

Yeah. The the porn Disney child porn cruise? Yeah. Of course you gotta distract from that. By the way, hanta in like Hebrew is like what is it? What is it? It's like uh it's like idiot or something like that, yeah. Or or like false or something like that. It's like it's it's in our face, dude. Yeah, yeah. Like you are fucking coming up with what do you think about the hantavirus?

SPEAKER_01 1:17:09

I know of it. I learned about it. I know it comes from rodents. It doesn't, it's not easily transmissible.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:16

But they're gonna make it easily transmittable so that we have to get locked down.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:19

So the newest thing with the huntavirus is that six to seven years, it can stay in your system and now be uh present itself as an STI.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:32

Yeah, nice. And you know what? Fauci is still walking free from COVID. He's still he's still a free person. Oh, he got pardoned. He's a free person. Why would you need pardon if you didn't do something illegal? Well, he got he got auto pen pardon, so it doesn't it doesn't matter. But he's he's still free. He he did so much damage.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:51

But he's he's gonna fucking walk free.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:52

We're just watching it. We're just like, I wonder what's gonna happen. Murdahl, the murderer that killed his wife and daughter, or his wife, wife and son, I mean, got overturned overturned. Yeah, yeah. Fucking murderer. Yeah, but he owns the courts there, so they're like, We are watching the fucking Twilight Zone, dude. We're watching the Twilight Zone. We really are. Because nobody says anything. What we do is we talk about it, we discuss it, and then we watch it happen. What are we gonna do? You know, there's nothing. Yeah, what are you gonna do?

SPEAKER_01 1:18:23

That's military. What are you gonna do, Dakota?

SPEAKER_03 1:18:27

And I tell you, man, a lot of people is like, oh no, it's this this political side of the aisle that doesn't this side is like, no, it's not, man. Stop. Take a step back.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:34

Brother, both wings are doing shitty things, dude. Like, both wings are doing shitty things.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:39

Take a step back and then like figure out why that was said. Look at that.

unknown 1:18:44

No, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:45

Like they're not even good at hiding shit. No, man. Like they're not good at it.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:49

Because we have social media, we have this stuff and everything else, like that's receipts. So if you look at like uh we'll go down now. Look at the current president. His entire cabinet at one point in time hated him, said he was awful, said this and that. Everyone, whatever else. Every one of them, Heggseth, JD Vance, JD Vance, uh, even uh Lindsey Graham, everyone that said that they hated him, and like that's what I'm saying. It's just a state. Now they're there, it's a state.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:13

Now they're there for him.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:15

He started saying all the things that you know No new wars, yeah. Like he said all the good things, and that's that's what people wanted. But uh they're trying to be in position, bro. Yeah, exactly. It's like just step back, just step back and like.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:31

No, it's it's it's fucking power, dude.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:33

It's it's all about I mean we and it's like dude, we we really got behind you because let's obviously the other side's wacko when they wanted to put no kings, but they wanted to put a queen like without elector or nothing, nothing. Oh no kings. Well, we're gonna elect this person who's never won in any votes in any fucking election.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:56

Yeah, um, she got there by fucking right.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:59

No kidding. But it's like no kings, but then they do a uh a standing ovation for King Charles when he comes. Both sides of the aisle.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:06

Yeah, that's again. Take a step back, remove the emotion. No kings.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:11

Fucking idiots. You're an idiot if you're a no kings fucking person. I don't care what you fucking think about me. We got people looking up here. Fuck you, man. You no kings, bullshit. Yeah, and then you're gonna standing ovation a fucking king that has no power, really, has no fucking power. 100%. You know, parliamentary fucking uh all right, all right, all right. I'm getting mad, dude. I'm getting mad. Go ahead, Roger. Tell us something nice.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:36

So Cody's so Cody's uh uh money. Yeah, I it's good. I thought it was great. And I think um, you know, maybe this kind of hinges on this a little bit, but we've said before, or at least the the major that was uh talking at us here. Yeah, Major Girk. Uh great dude. He's got a shortened as a long speech. He did the officer thing. I know.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:01

And I I he and I were staff sergeants together. I told you I said it in my speech, but I tried to be quick on my speech. Was I quick? I feel like I feel like I was. I was. Not the first time you ever heard that. No, but I tried to be real quick on my speech.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:15

Quick to the punch.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:16

Yeah, you know what I mean? Because you know the Marines are out there dying and you don't want them to be out there dying. And I'm like, dude, does anybody else here give a shit about those Marines out there? For real. And Cody did, because he went out.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:27

I think yours built momentum. I think yours built momentum. His was like a sermon where it kind of had its. It lost everything. It like lost us. But you know what? I'm the political answer. The the part that I did. Did I screw up anything? No.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:40

The part that I I felt like not from the video I saw.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:44

Oh, there was a video. Never mind. Oh shit.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:47

Womp womp.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:48

The part that I think fell on. I think it's like okay, and then I look at it, I'm like, oh, that's terrible.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:53

The part that I think that fell on deaf ears that everybody kind of skipped over was when he was saying that, you know, Cody's doing the hard thing. This is like that transition out and having a short thing, um, you know, yeah. Kind of Cody talking about how he's indoctrinated. He's indoctrinated, he's spoken on it. He's spoken on it. He said that.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:15

He's spoken on it. He said that. He said, I'm indoctrinated. I don't, I'm not ready to go. I don't want to go.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:20

And to be honest, that made me say shit, dude.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:23

I was I was that. You're talking about crying and shit. That'll make me sad. That's when I started tearing up. I was like, oh.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:28

It's like, dang, I only know this. I only know this.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:32

That's like one of the things that Dakota Dakota and I were talking about on the way home. It's like I joined the military at 17, retired at 37, but my entire adult life was included.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:47

You only know one way to be.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:48

It was very structured.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:50

Same.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:51

You like I didn't have to wonder what smart.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:54

What's coming next? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:56

I didn't know how, like, I didn't have to worry about how to prepare for next week.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:01

Or how someone's gonna act when you approach them. Like now you get into the real world and you walk over to somebody and they're like, hey, the only thing you need to worry about is how to do your job.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:12

And that's it. Yeah. You don't need to worry about anything else that's going on, and just like, you know, all of the things that you know, maybe a lot of uh civilians worry about, and you know, now Cody's gotta have to worry about. Like when we're in the military, we just follow orders. We don't really, we just kind of just do the thing.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:30

Well, you also know your routine, like she said. Yeah. Know you, you know your day to day, you know exactly where you're gonna be.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:35

Yeah, you get the phone calls in the middle of the night, where you marine, dude, and you get like weird looks in civilian jobs when you do things by the book, they're like, yo, why are you doing it like that? And it's like, oh, that's how they fucking said to do it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:48

Well, and then like not to misspeak or anything.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:51

No, it's definitely it's definitely a di a transition. It's definitely a a wake-up call when you when you are no longer in uniform.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:59

You're like, what's my purpose? I'm five five years out from retirement.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:06

But like I said, we got a newer boot now. That's right.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:11

I still struggle with decision paralysis because like analysis paralysis.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:17

Like I like, am I doing too much?

SPEAKER_00 1:24:21

Well, and it's like I have these options and I'm so scared that I'm gonna make the wrong step that like I I just get stopped.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:35

Yeah. And analysis paralysis.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:37

And then it's it's like maybe by somebody that has like an ego trip that is like, yo, that is correct, but I'm supposed to be like, you can pull that whole mic over to you if you wanted to not sit up every time.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:49

Like sit back how you were. I'm like, leaning back.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:52

I'm leaning back so it's like, yo, floor. He keeps sitting up to talk. I'm like, I'm like leaning back so she can like Yeah, yeah, I got you.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:59

I got you. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:00

But like I think it's even harder for males, especially you those of you guys that hit that top tier of um like um rank to make that transition because you go from being that important person, like you go And then now you're working at some civilian company, you're like you're just lead.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:24

You're not first sergeant bot anymore.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:26

And I've had what two jobs since I retired, and both times like they're like we're not paying you to fix things, we're not taking paying you to make things work.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:39

But you have that mindset that you want to do that.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:41

It's hard. Yeah, because you're like this shit's fucked. But and it would be a simple tweak, but they don't want to hear it.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:49

No, they they hired you to fill a lot.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:52

It's it's uh abandoning the zero defect mentality that the military gives you, where you're just like every single thing. We do have that. And and and getting into the civilian world where it's like, you know, nothing's really like life or death. And it's a stark contrast. Um, I think that that probably speaks more to you know it's what it's fire when you polarize it.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:17

It's fire when you polarize it that way. It's great when you polarize it that way. It's like I've had people at my own job being like, no one's gonna die if this messes up. Like it's gonna be totally fine. It'll be fine.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:27

Yeah, but that's not how we feel.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:29

Like, we as veterans not to continue on, but it's like, hey, that it's as uh a representation of it's not that serious. It's like, hey, bro, like we can mess up right here. Like that this is okay. Like we can get back right. Right. In that realm, no, you can't.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:46

Yeah, yeah. So that's what I'm saying. Like, we we don't feel like that. We as veterans feel like no, it has to be everything has to be perfect, everything has to be a certain way.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:56

I think that that's because we don't, especially as active duty, we don't let our mistakes become public.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:03

Well, your Navy, we don't make mistakes in the Marine Corps. I can get that, but we don't make mistakes in the Marine Corps. Yeah, we're like, come on. JK, listen, we love all the brands.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:16

Did you take your motion today?

SPEAKER_05 1:27:18

I didn't, dude.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:19

His birth control alarm hasn't gone on yet.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:21

I did it, but I am very like my back hurts. I'm realizing now how much sleep I did not get last night. Oh, yeah. This this episode is hot. Or today. Or today. Yeah. I don't care, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:33

I'm saying I'll switch the topic up here to uh to lighten the mood. Not for Roger. Um but uh nice Roger.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:41

Your voice sounds good on there, man. Right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:44

So uh Roger, let's talk about that uh that cigar trade that we did. Oh shit.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:49

Last night. Last night at the party.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:51

So we've talked shit about Gurkhas.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:54

Gurkha. You gave him he gave you a Gurkha.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:58

I straight up.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:03

Gurkha sucks. I'm sorry, Gurkha. I said people.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:06

I went online and I found a Gurkha tier list. And they said this was up there. S tier. This is gonna be, you know, one of the ones. It was the Gurkha crest. Whenever you're gonna go back to the case. No, whenever. Yeah. Right? And that's exactly what I told you. I didn't say it was great. I said apparently this one's decent. And keep in mind I got this on Cigar Bid for four bucks.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:29

And you probably gave him a good cigar.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:31

You dropped the price point after you hyped it up.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:35

And after he had already cut it, cut it and looked at it.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:38

Did the wrapper completely come off? No. Because that's what Gurkha does.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:42

It did. Remember the uh the band started coming off at the end.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:46

Yeah, dude, did Gurkha the quality is not there anymore. 25 years ago that that was there. Like the the the quality was there, but it ain't there anymore, dude.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:58

How did I hype it up?

SPEAKER_05 1:28:59

I liked Gurkha back when it was good and it ain't good no more. So whatever I hyped it up.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:04

You said as far as Gurkha's I want to hear you.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:09

I want to hear you talk about this.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:11

Thank you, buddy. Thanks, buddy. Yeah. All right. So switching gears, we uh switched to a Fuente Nieho. And we switched our.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:21

Yeah, we switched to L Snap. Wait, a little bit down, a little bit down, right? Wait, we gotta keep talking. Yeah, there you go. There you go, there you go.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:30

So McAllen uh Harmony. Uh this is the inspired by Rich Cocoa. I think it pairs really good with this. Like this, I gotta keep talking.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:37

I gotta keep talking, or you could yeah, there you go. Keep talking.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:41

So this right here, uh I think that that uh the Rich Cocoa right there, that's that brings out a little bit of the spice of this in Yeho. Uh but speaking of you know, good cigars, Gurkha is not one of them. Um sorry, Gurkha, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:56

I like you. I used to love you guys back then. Let's put the notes off. Let's get the notes off of that one. In 03 and 04, I loved Gurkha. They were great. But then after that, I would have it, and I was like, every time it blows up, it doesn't, it's not it's not good.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:08

I was a good friend of Roger, all right? You know, it took us a little minute. All right, so I see Roger, he pours out some uh Elijah Craig 15, which he was gracious enough to share. I just wish he wouldn't have shared the Gurkha. Um but I see him pour the Elijah Craig 15, and I'm like, hmm. Okay, never had it. I know that that's that's Elijah Craig is is pretty good. Uh, but then he he pulls out what was the cigar that I end up trading you?

SPEAKER_01 1:30:35

You had the eye of the shark.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:36

Yeah. So trade? Trade.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:38

No, then listen. Oh, no. Had I known it was gonna be a trade, I would have given you something other than the girl.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:46

You gave the dude a Gurkha, bro.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:48

He gave me a Mercedes and I gave him a Pinto.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:50

Yeah, you can't you can't be you can't be doing Gurkha when it's a cigar trade, bro. Yeah, I see. Gurkha sucks.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:56

I see the Elijah Craig, and I'm I'm somewhat familiar with Elijah Craig, and I was like, I know that the what he's about to smoke is not gonna pair well with that. I was like, and I had my box that I usually have. I have some powerhouse cigars in there. I have uh Placencia Alma de Fuego, I have uh Alma de Campo, I have Alma uh De Cello.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:13

Uh and you know notes and fucking this, you know.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:16

I had I had Opus. That that's that's my little powerhouse box. But I see him pull out this cigar, and I'm like, I don't think that that's gonna pair too well. It's like I know something that will. And I pulled out an Eye of the Shark, which uh it is sometimes released in July and Christmas. Uh but you know, some sometimes you know Fuente will just throw it out there, and I was like, I think Roger would appreciate this. So he does it. So he lights it up there, does a straight cut because it's a box press. Uh Eye of the Shark and Opus has Shark as well.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:44

It really is like a unique uh box press because it's kind of square shaped rather than the typical like right rectangular shape.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:51

Yeah, so if you guys see Eye of the Shark on there or Opus Shark, uh then. Do you do a crown cut or just a V cut?

SPEAKER_01 1:31:57

I did a crown cut. That one I had a crown cut. So you did both? Yeah. Okay, cool.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:02

And um, you know, that one it was it's a Cameroon wrapper if I if you're a crown a crown cut for those of you who don't know, is uh you do a V-cut and you have your cigar like this, and you V-cut it again, and now you have like a it looks like a crown. Yeah, that's uh it's really cool. Yeah, and it'll mostly keep that capped.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:19

We're nerds, we're nerds, it'll mostly keep that cap intact so it's not splintering off and getting to tobacco on there. Yeah. Uh so yeah, I I I kick in this eye of the shark and it's like that's gonna pair well. It really did, and it really did.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:31

Because you know, the Cameroon rapper with the like the reciprocate.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:38

How'd you reciprocate though?

SPEAKER_01 1:32:40

He said, What do you got there? Yeah. So I listen, this was on I forgot my box at home. You could ask me. First of all, I was almost a collection.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:50

I'm not mad at you because you always bring us food, you always bring us drinks, you always bring us everything. So no, so I don't give a sh I think it's funny because the code guy, but you do always take care of it. So I'm good.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:03

You fuck a goat one time.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:05

Now you're a goat fucker, you're no longer a bridge builder, you're a goat fucker.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:09

So he does that, and he goes, you know what? Uh he does go through it. He's like, Oh, this it is this tier, uh, it is a Gurkha, but you know, I there is some reviews about it. I'm like, all right. Uh all right, Roger, I'll I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. I'll I'll give it a shot. And the first, like, the first hit, as soon as I like toast it and hit it, I'm like, okay. Not bad. All right. We'll get there. Not good. Not good.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:35

And how do they stay in business?

SPEAKER_05 1:33:36

I don't know. I I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:38

Four dollars a stick.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:41

I really don't get it because they used to be really good. Gurkhas used to be good.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:45

It's like the Marshalls when you like cigar boots like the Marshalls where it's like it doesn't really fit. It's like a misshapen total.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:53

In 2003, when I first started smoking cigars, Gurkhas were the shit. They were so good, dude. Yeah. So good. And then like 10 years later, it's like, what the fuck is this?

SPEAKER_03 1:34:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:04

They suck. So they must have sold the company to somebody or something like that. Something like that.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:08

So I get it.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:09

Sorry, we're gonna get so much hate for this Gurkha shit. Oh, this whole thing. No, we're not. Gurkha sucks though.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:13

Send us, send us one that actually is good. You know what?

SPEAKER_05 1:34:16

You know what? Tell us if we're wrong about Gurkha, tell us that we're wrong about Gurkha and tell us which one we should smoke because if I can't keep the wrapper on it the whole damn time.

unknown 1:34:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:26

I don't think I could have paid him four bucks to smoke that no, but uh just being a nice guy, I was like, okay, I'll give it his, I'll give it his due diligence. I got about halfway through there and I was like, okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:39

Dakota was like factory smokes. Uh Trader Jack.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:46

Yeah. So I get smoking there and he goes, All right, so what do you think? I was like, how much you pay for it? He goes, four dollars. Yeah. Enthusiastically.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:54

Enthusiastically.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:56

I'm like, like, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:57

Yeah, it tastes like I thought I set the bar so low you could trip on it. Tastes about like a four dollar cigar.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:04

Somehow you got clotheslined by that.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:08

Well, dude, I I fucking I left my whole cigar case over at Cody's, my lighter, I have my cutter. Like, my life was not on track this morning.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:17

No, Amy found your cutter though. She did. I have it.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:20

I have my cutter. You see what? Okay. But uh what I'm saying, we because we went out to 34 North and like stayed up all night and got to bed at four in the morning. But uh, yeah, I I left so much crap over at Cody's. I was like, hey man, when I went after I had gone there to pick up the shit, he was like, Chance will ride with you. I'm like, no, I gotta get there, drop it all off, get back and do the show. Yeah. So I can't stop by here again. I just gotta go. So anyway, they were packing everything up and he I was like, and then I'm texting him on the road, not that I text and drive, but I was like, uh, do you have my lighter? I can't find my lighter anywhere. And when I got back home, he's like, Yeah, I found it. And I was like, You you got my like cigar box? A box of cigars like holding cigars because I had those at 34 north. He's like, Yeah, we got those, we got those. Like, you got my hey dudes? I left my hate, I left my hey dudes. I walked out and got in my truck and drove home without shoes on, dude. That's truck.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:18

Did I leave my underwear?

SPEAKER_05 1:36:20

I was like, dude, I'm gonna do it. Is my dildo still there?

SPEAKER_03 1:36:24

Or I just I said it last night. I was like, you know what? Everyone is pretty tuned up right now. You know, obviously no one's driving, everyone's Ubering, or we got a driver. And that's what we did. So yeah, 100%. But I was like, Marines will do one thing, and it's they will clean a party before everyone goes to bed. They will clean that damn party. I've had new dude.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:45

Yeah, and they did. My shit was in my truck before I left in the morning. Yes, yeah, except for the coolers, everything was in my truck, the tents, everything. Like Marines will fucking party and then they'll clean up. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:58

100%. I had I had a beer pong rager in my barracks room, and before we all like lay down to call it a night, the table was cleared and cleaned, the floor was mopped, all the bags, everything was taken out, and then we're like, all right, we're done. Boom.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:15

Everyone went down. And then you're like, who did all that? Even if you did it, you don't remember you did it.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:19

And that's exactly what we started doing at Cody's. It's like we're all pretty tuned up.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:22

We're like, you know, everybody's tuned up.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:24

And it was quick as possible.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:25

It was before we left, right? Yeah, before we left. We took down the tent, we wrapped that shit up.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:30

You guys had the Uber waiting outside already, and he's like, come on, let's go.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:33

And I didn't want to go, but I was like, you know what? Cody made that fucking comment that until the last cigar goes out or Lee goes down, I was like, bitch. Say that's awesome. Say no more, motherfucker. And I was like, and I'm they're all in bed. I was like, I guess I'll go to sleep. I'm gonna be the last one up. I'm gonna be. I don't care how drunk I am, I'm gonna be the last one up, and then the first one up, so I can go fucking drive home and sleep a little bit more.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:59

Dude, I mean, again, my phone came down, like all everything around there, like all the stuff got picked up, thrown in there. I took the trash out of there, and that whole party was cleaned up, maybe 30 minutes.

SPEAKER_06 1:38:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:11

The only thing we didn't have was the uh cornhole. That was the only thing we didn't put away. I didn't know where to put it, but yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:38:18

Right as good as back here. Yeah. Yeah. But that was awesome. That's a shot cornhole board. It was like a big one. I was gonna bring mine, and I'm glad I didn't. I'm glad I didn't bring mine. Yeah. Because I knew it was gonna be about that many people. I was like, all right, this is a good amount of people. We don't need another game, we don't need another, you know, like there's cornhole. That's that's that's enough. Yeah. Because I was gonna bring bocce ball, but I couldn't find it.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:40

Again, so you know, not to harp on this, but it was like, you know, when they were going around introducing people, oh yeah, that guy's cigar shop, cigar shops, cigar shops, cigar shops. I swear to God, dude. That that made my heart happy. I used to work with them, cigar shops, cigar shops.

SPEAKER_05 1:38:54

Yeah, that made my heart happy. I was like, Cody's not a smoker. Cody does not smoke cigars, but we were all there for his shit. And I I again I have to say I love every one of you for it. I really do. I thank you so much because he's been my homie for a long time. And I know, you know, I've I've been his family when his family's not his family. You know what I mean? So, like, when it was like my family's not coming out, I'm like, dude, bro, you're gonna have your your other family there. You know what I mean? And when y'all showed up, man, I was I was so fucking happy. It, dude.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:26

This is the everyone who's listening right now, if you're a listener viewer right here, this is your call. Pick up cigars, go to your local show, find the table, find the couches, and just sit there and be able to. You will find your new family.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:39

You will listen first before talking and then listen and then talk. Earn your key and then get in there. But you know, I yesterday when I came home, I was like, hey, uh, you know, Lee and Cody and everybody's going to 34 North. And she was like, I think two from 2 p.m. to 11 p.m. is good enough.

SPEAKER_05 1:39:58

Oh, oh yeah, oh yeah. No, no, nobody should have gone with us. Like it was way too late for us to be out, but Lauren looked so good. Anyway, um, what? I'm just saying. Uh I've been saying that. It grew back, man. I've been single. My virginity grew back, yes. I've it's been years, and I she but she looked good. Sweet. Anyway, uh we get there and it's like, what the fuck am I doing? But I was like, all right, fuck it. Let's just drink all night and fucking go home and go to sleep. Yeah. And so we did. But we Ubered and then we took the, I think we took, I allegedly we took the the shuttle? Yeah, shuttle back.

SPEAKER_03 1:40:35

Mike.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:36

Either that or we Ubered. I don't know. I have no idea.

SPEAKER_03 1:40:39

Once once we were there, responsibly arrived at the house. Yes. Yes.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:43

Responsibly arrived. I went to bed because there was no, like I was gonna Uber home, but I was like, nah, it's like four in the morning. Let's just go, let's go to bed. So I went to sleep, woke up in the morning, and then drove back at 7:30. So I went to bed from four, I slept for three hours. Yeah, drove home, slept for a lot more hours. And then my phone died, so everybody thinks I'm dead. They're like, we're waiting on Lee to to be awake or alive or something, waiting on proof. This is a welfare check.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:10

Imagine I was asking for a proof of life.

SPEAKER_05 1:41:14

Yeah, and then you and then you see that dude that's out there dying, you think it's probably me. No. Too soon. Oh man, no, no, no. He said it. I didn't say it. No, that was that's terrible, dude. I'm still shook about that. Like, I'm like fucking I keep asking Cody, like, give me more details. This is crazy, dude. A dude basically died in your neighbor's yard.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:37

Aye, aye, aye.

SPEAKER_05 1:41:38

The night after we had a party. So I'm like, there's no coincidences. Was he at the party? He was like, no, he wasn't at the party. So like that's the first thing I thought. I was like, maybe he was just a drunk dude from the party, but it wasn't. It was just a random neighbor that was trying to break up a dog fight. Still, man, that shook me, dude. It shook me. And like I'm already shook you all night long? Well, I'm still drunk. I'm still drunk from the day before, like when I go over to his house to pick up his shit. So I'm like, what? What? And then I see all these ambulances and all these things.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:10

And they're like, this is real.

SPEAKER_05 1:42:11

It's like they brought it out, and then when I go to turn around, there's a whole group just standing around this this body, you know, and it's like, fuck, man. That's so terrible. So how about those cowboys? No, I just I you know, I'm sorry to bring that up again. I just thought that's terrible.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:30

My morning consisted of a uh a run to well, I thought you know, Lee was unresponsive for hours on in, so I thought that was the show. My phone was dead. Come on. Yeah, I thought we were gonna rain check. You guys all know me.

SPEAKER_05 1:42:42

You guys all know me.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:43

Roger definitely took a rain check on the show, but then showed up as uh, you know, as he is here. But you know, this was supposed to be awaiting us. Yeah, this was supposed to be a show. We're gonna have a really fancy bottle and really box. We'll do that next show. Yeah, next show. We're gonna bring that to the next show. It's called edging. Yeah, yeah, I'm telling you. Are you edging? You're edging? Okay. It's called edging. So nasty boy. Next time. Next time.

SPEAKER_05 1:43:10

Yeah, uh, so that we've been talking about that, like having these two getting on the show to tie their dicks together finally.

SPEAKER_03 1:43:16

Um, then I get a Gurkha out of return.

SPEAKER_05 1:43:18

So he gets a fucking Gurkha from the bottom. I've been building, I've been building Roger up to this guy. I've been building I've been building Roger up to this guy and building Dakota up to this guy. He's like, damn, I can't wait to meet you. It's my fault. Gurkha so I took the best cigar out of the batch. Sorry, Gurkha. Prove us wrong.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:43

Roger was like, hey, you can have you want a stick? I was like, oh shit, I'll be here for a while. Yeah, I'll take a stick. And then he opened up the thing and I seen Gurkha and I was like, not that one. No, I'm getting out of the sun. I'm getting out of the sun, brother. I was like, alright, now it's down to three. So it's really my fault. It's the maybe the one you poke were gonna pick is the one I pulled. Yeah. Because he opened it up, I was like, Gurkha flashing my face. No. Sun, the sun is like peeking around. You did agree to it. I mean, you know, I was just and he gave you a disclaimer. He was like, it's a Gurkha. So I just the disclaimer was like a velvet dagger, you know? It was a velvet dagger. And it was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever. Just smoke it. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:44:30

So it wasn't wasn't a good smoke. No. Because it was a Gurkha. Yes. Yeah, Gurkha sucks.

SPEAKER_04 1:44:36

What if it had like a Davidoff band on it?

SPEAKER_05 1:44:38

I'm sorry, Gurkha. You guys just need to do better, man. You need to do better.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:42

If it had like a different band on it and it probably, but they suck now, dude.

SPEAKER_05 1:44:47

Yeah. They suck so bad.

SPEAKER_04 1:44:49

Those are some of the first cigars I ever smoked.

SPEAKER_05 1:44:51

Yeah, but they they're just not the quality's not there, the taste, the flavor, nothing. I guess.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:01

What was wrong with it?

SPEAKER_05 1:45:03

Yeah, well, most of it was like it is. I bet the quality. What was the delta on? I bet the quality, I bet it broke open.

SPEAKER_03 1:45:10

No, so it didn't it didn't break open, but the flavors were just dull. It was just, I mean, it was nothing like you could really pick up other than like there was this weird flowery note to it. Um but yeah, and I waited until I was about halfway through it.

SPEAKER_05 1:45:29

Because whoever bought Gurkha just made it like something.

SPEAKER_03 1:45:32

So I looked it up to see what notes was supposed to be there.

SPEAKER_05 1:45:35

And they remove quality, dude. Why do they when people take over businesses? Why do you remove quality? I I think it has to do with uh a blender. I know it's about that. I'm a business guy, but like, why would you do that? You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, you save money, but now you're you're losing sales because nobody wants your cigars anymore. And trashing the name. Because your cigars suck now. So nobody wants them anymore.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:59

I mean, not to people that are just getting into smoking cigars and then don't know. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_05 1:46:04

I mean, and so people come in here like, I'm looking for a Gurkha, and I'm like, uh probably want to look at there's other cigars here.

SPEAKER_03 1:46:11

You probably couldn't make that because there is a handful of them that are I don't know, they smoke as just one consistent flavor. Like uh I I know a lot of like Nicaragua, they have to have one like the 15-year anniversary.

SPEAKER_05 1:46:26

Or something like that, yeah. Perdomo.

SPEAKER_03 1:46:27

Perdomo, Perdomo is pretty good.

SPEAKER_05 1:46:29

Mine still like mine still mine still blew up. It still did a blowout. Mine still did a blowout. I'm like, that's why I don't smoke Gurkha's anymore. And I used to love Gurkha, dude. Yeah, it was my favorite cigar.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:41

Bro, I don't even think that's specific to the brand, though. Like a blowout, though.

SPEAKER_05 1:46:46

No, but every every single time, come on. Every single time, every single cigar you smoke from Gurkha blows up.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:53

Well, it's just because no one's bought them for a long time. Yeah, that's because they still have a replaced to bother. They've sucked for a long time. And they're just dried out.

SPEAKER_05 1:46:59

That's because they've sucked for so long.

SPEAKER_03 1:47:01

You know, another thing I noticed is like over there when I take my cigar out of my little box and then I take it out to like 120 degree heat. Like, obvious.

SPEAKER_05 1:47:10

Obviously. You gotta let it set on the desk. Obviously, when you go to You gotta let it expand.

SPEAKER_04 1:47:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:47:16

Yeah, obviously when you're like deployed to Iraq or some shit like that. Obviously.

SPEAKER_04 1:47:20

You gotta be careful about it right away.

SPEAKER_05 1:47:23

When we're in Afghanistan, we had humidors and stuff, but like when you take it out, it's like you know, it sucks the fucking hydration right out of it. So you're gonna have that in Afghanistan, Iraq, places like that, of course. But back home when it's regular like Hawaii, I was in Hawaii I try to Gurk. I'm like, just blew up in a lot of awesome Gurkha's not my favorite anymore. You know what I mean? And that's all I'm saying. They're not my favorite anymore. They're just not my favorite anymore. They used to be my favorite, now they suck. They're not my favorite anymore.

SPEAKER_03 1:47:55

So what would you say your favorite non-Georg's brand is? Non-Georg's.

SPEAKER_05 1:48:00

I would say probably my father. My father I would say my father. Or I like Camachos. H Upman is good. Camachos are good. But I I like my father. Yeah, I think my father.

SPEAKER_04 1:48:23

My father hits pretty hard. Jewish date or H. Upman.

SPEAKER_05 1:48:26

My father, the judge, I got two cigars. It's probably my favorite cigar besides this. Not lay bijou. It's a little bit longer. It's the same smoke. Yeah. But I like the judge from my father.

SPEAKER_04 1:48:37

I've never bought a box of it. So fair.

SPEAKER_05 1:48:39

That's a good smoke, dude. You gotta admit, that's a good smoke. The judge or Bijou? The judge. The judge. Yeah, a judge for short. Bijoux is good too. Yeah. But but the judge is is fatter and you know, shorter and stuff. I just like it.

SPEAKER_03 1:48:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:48:51

You're getting really close there. It just has to be. You're getting close. Is my number going down? Is my number going down?

SPEAKER_03 1:48:56

You're getting so close.

SPEAKER_05 1:48:57

Did my number go down? You guys would know what the number is going down. It's uh we'll talk about that on another show.

SPEAKER_03 1:49:05

Uh just the way you describe that cigar, you're getting so close.

SPEAKER_05 1:49:08

Thick and veiny. Yeah. The thick and veiny one. Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:12

I bet you eat her stinker's bar upside down so you can fill the veins.

SPEAKER_05 1:49:17

Uh no, I eat it out of the pool, actually. Yeah, I want people to think somebody pooped in the pool.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:24

The baby roof.

SPEAKER_06 1:49:25

The baby roof.

SPEAKER_03 1:49:27

So TK, you said Drew Estate. Are you going with the Deadwood by Drew Estate?

SPEAKER_04 1:49:32

Nah, I'm going the other way. Like Java? Like, not like the rat level, like not that far, but it's like one of my favorites is like the tourist Herrera Estelia. Oh, yeah. And they have the blue bands in here, and they got the white bands and Georgia cigars here in Swansboro, North Carolina. Oh yeah. Georgia cigars here in North Carolina. My favorite cigar ever, and my dad can fact check this. Herrera Estelita. Miami. And I heard they were going to be a couple of things.

SPEAKER_05 1:50:02

Herrera Estelis Miami from Drew Estate. Black band. What's the flare like a flavor? Oh, it is?

SPEAKER_04 1:50:13

That's very spicy. The other Herrera Estelis has like a creamy flavor profile to it, which I like in a cigar. And I and I do find that in a couple of the Camachos that they have like the bolder flavor, but like they also have the creamy flavor inside of that hold, but it's like bold and creamy, but like the Herrella Estelie Miami has like got that little spice on it. Yeah, I'm gonna have to try that. Well, are you? Do you like a taback?

SPEAKER_03 1:50:38

Nah, I've never smoked one. So with a Herrera Miami having a little bit of a spice to it, which is got the little spice kick. Yeah. Are you a Padron fan? Yes.

SPEAKER_05 1:50:48

I smoked some Padrones.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:50

I am Padron advice. Roger, Padron? It's a little out of my price range, but I actually like them when my friends give them to me.

SPEAKER_05 1:50:58

Yeah. They're great ones. When my friend gives me one, I like it. I love it.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:01

I'm like, yeah, this is the best cigar I've ever had.

SPEAKER_05 1:51:03

Yeah, for sure. No, I do like Padron too. The best cigar is a free cigar.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:08

Would I, if given the bank roll, just walk in a big thing.

SPEAKER_05 1:51:11

Maybe you gotta settle down over there a little bit. Just settle down a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 1:51:14

I don't know if you can contribute on this one.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:17

If you put the two boxes next to each other, I'm going her Estelle like out the gate. Like if I have the bank roll for both, I'm gonna just lean towards the biggest.

SPEAKER_05 1:51:26

Do you like them that much?

SPEAKER_04 1:51:28

They're just good. I'm gonna have to try one of those because I don't think it's a lot of things. I can't remember the the It's the white and the light blue. We have them here.

SPEAKER_05 1:51:39

Yeah. I have to try one. Tavak's pretty good, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:42

It's the only cigar, the Miami that I've ever smoked times three in my vehicle. They're that good. Okay. Like leaving the golf course like I'm not putting, I'm not throwing this.

SPEAKER_05 1:51:55

Just so you know, smoke in your car all you want. I have an ozone generator. What you do is you put it in the car. You see it.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:02

Okay, so let's revisit the thing where I said about the baby. It'll clean all that smell out.

SPEAKER_05 1:52:08

You won't because it kills the odor. It doesn't like just mask it, it kills the odor.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:12

What does it do in a 99 Civic?

SPEAKER_05 1:52:15

It does about 100. It brings the value up. Right, exactly. We just made it nicer. A 99 Civic. Jesus Christ. I thought I was bad. I would drive a 2010 F-150.

SPEAKER_03 1:52:27

My favorite brand is definitely Davidoff. That was my first luxury cigar. Uh then curious about the Opus X. You're smoking a Davidoff now? No, this is a Fuente. That's going to be my number two. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:40

That's why I'm curious about the Opus X's because it's like a big thing. Opus X is a good smoke, too. I took a family vacation down to Florida and we passed by a cigar shop, and then lo and behold, where we were staying at in the house was one left turn away from that place. It's like, oh that's cool. And it's like, alright, we're here. And I'm like, oh shit, that place is right there.

SPEAKER_05 1:53:02

Oh, I used to smoke those before they cost so much money.

SPEAKER_04 1:53:05

And then I go there, right? So I was like, we're there for like a 4th of July party for her f for Nicole's family. And um, so I go there and um like you guys got any Opus X? And the guy is like, he like laughs. He's like, we did. Like, but they're gone for right now. And then um, I think I just ended up walking out of there with like some Ashtons.

SPEAKER_05 1:53:32

Well Ashton's Ashton's a good smoke too, but Opus X is really good. So Ashton But I used to smoke those back when they cost when they cost decent.

SPEAKER_04 1:53:44

When they cost decent.

SPEAKER_05 1:53:46

Opus X used to be decently priced, now it's not anymore.

SPEAKER_04 1:53:50

No, it's a designer cigar now.

SPEAKER_03 1:53:51

Oh no, yeah, now it's like you can't get it unless you're so with Ashton. You guys need to remember Ashton's actually a small company. They source their tobacco from Fuente and My Father. Yep.

SPEAKER_05 1:54:03

They don't even make so Ashton is not Ashton. Yeah. They're Fuente and My Father.

SPEAKER_04 1:54:07

Like that they So they're a subcompany, yes. Oh, they're their own company, but they source the tobacco. It's like Toyota Alexis type. Pretty much. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:54:15

So it's like they don't make their own stuff anymore.

unknown 1:54:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:54:18

Or Accurate Honda or whatever the fuck you want to say, whichever one you want to say.

SPEAKER_03 1:54:22

So for the viewers, like when you go to a shop and you ask for Opus X and David, no. You gotta understand is like in order to qualify for an Opus account, you have to sell a certain amount of JC Newman. So that's your brick house, your Perla Delmar, uh for shell companies. You gotta you gotta sell a lot of those before you can get an Opus account. And then even then, uh you have different tiers.

SPEAKER_04 1:54:46

Select select um select buyers.

SPEAKER_03 1:54:54

Yeah, exactly. I uh George and I we went golfing with a guy and he had a 1964 anniversario. You're like, don't smoke that shit. It was a sampler pack, and I was like, What are you what are you doing with that? And he goes, I'm gonna smoke that. I was like, on the golf course. He goes, Yeah. I was like, No, no, you're not. No, you're not. Absolutely not. Stow that away. You'll smoke what I have, which was, you know. Like, I'll give you a cigar, dude. 100%. So I let him smoke off of mine. Like I had George's cigar.

SPEAKER_01 1:55:20

Like you need to be sitting down and like smoking. Savory. Yes, first of all. You gotta savor it. Yeah, I think for me, uh budget cigar, George's like obviously. It's like actually above value.

SPEAKER_04 1:55:34

Yeah, way above value. Like maybe like 3x above value.

SPEAKER_01 1:55:38

Another one, if you haven't had it, uh Dunbarton Umbagog. I haven't had it. Dunbarton is a good one. Umbagog. It's a fantastic. It's uh it's way shorter than uh George's, but uh I think it's only five inch. But um average?

SPEAKER_04 1:55:56

I know that number like the back of my hand. Slightly below.

SPEAKER_01 1:55:59

It's five and a half. But okay, then I know nothing about it. Uh but yeah, I think that that's uh a great um budget smoke mid-tier. I don't know, what would you say mid-tier is?

SPEAKER_03 1:56:14

Budget mid-tier.

SPEAKER_01 1:56:15

I don't know what to say. It doesn't need to be budget mid tier. But just like mid tier. I mean, dude, honestly, I would step it.

SPEAKER_04 1:56:23

It is that's a e-level. Dude, let's be real. Like it is to like a freaking.

SPEAKER_03 1:56:28

Yeah, I mean, there is some. I will, I guess we should I mean, let's be honest.

SPEAKER_04 1:56:32

The 18 year um, like there are cellar reserve, y'all. There's some smokes that are mid-tier. Yeah. Like, honestly. Like, let's make it fair. Let's make it fair. There's a Gurkha there. All right, so then I'll then go break house. Gurkha sucks.

SPEAKER_03 1:56:50

So back to Gurkha. Gurkha has a lot of theirs that are infused and they're in the tubes, right? So they have the Hartsfield bourbon. See, I don't like flavored cigars.

SPEAKER_04 1:56:57

I don't like any of that.

SPEAKER_03 1:56:59

Well, I'm not normally not anymore. I'm not a flavored cigar guy. I thought that's what you were drinking.

SPEAKER_04 1:57:03

Well, I mean, I'm over here freaking smoking new board, so it's like your favorite.

SPEAKER_01 1:57:07

Dakota cigar right now, the reserva extra and yeho is uh infused or it's aged in cognac casts.

SPEAKER_05 1:57:15

Yeah. I'm being I'm being for real right now. I thought that what you were saying is the yeah. That's not a flavor. Okay. No, no, no, no. That's like a that's like a like Drew Estate cigars are mostly like flavored and spicy.

SPEAKER_04 1:57:30

I mean, for that, that's in the Herrera SLE line. That's like a cigar line. That's like a smoking tobacco.

SPEAKER_03 1:57:37

But I'll tell people is if you want an infuse cigar, if you want an infuse cigar, Drew Estate leads the industry when it comes to an infused cigar. Like an acid for Cuba, Cuba Cuba.

SPEAKER_05 1:57:46

Cuba Cuba is what I started on. That's the first thing that got me into smoking cigars is Cuba Cuba.

SPEAKER_03 1:57:50

Deadwood, very whole tablet.

SPEAKER_05 1:57:52

And that has a very cool smell.

SPEAKER_03 1:57:54

Deadwood tobacco is like they're above the rest.

SPEAKER_04 1:57:58

Yeah. But once you jump off that porch, though, it's like, hey, it's not flavored anymore. Yeah. It's like it's just tobacco. Walk on the big boy table. Yeah, it has some graduating yet. Not a lot of cigars smoking. Now you're with the big dogs.

SPEAKER_05 1:58:09

But not a lot of cigar smokers like the uh flavored cigars.

SPEAKER_04 1:58:14

So it's like Yeah, that's what I was telling Dakota. I don't like the cards.

SPEAKER_05 1:58:17

They're demographic, like people who are getting into cigars.

SPEAKER_04 1:58:19

No, it's both. The people that like uh Bud Light.

SPEAKER_05 1:58:23

Or yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:58:24

Or do you like pernicious? Dylan Mulvaney. It's one of the two. It really is one of the two. It's Gurkha. There's two lanes. There's two lanes.

SPEAKER_03 1:58:32

So Gurkha does have they have a Hortsville bourbon. They have a um Yeah, I'd say Gurkha.

SPEAKER_05 1:58:36

Gurkha is Nickers mark like Gurkha's the fucking Miller light, whereas everything else is the fucking pernicious, you know, the good. You can't even go that far, bro. No. Come on, bro. Gurkha sucks. You know Gurkha sucks, right?

SPEAKER_04 1:58:50

I mean, uh if that's what we're gonna title the podcast, fucking. Don't you know?

SPEAKER_05 1:58:55

Do you like Gurkha?

SPEAKER_04 1:58:57

I've smoked Gurkha's that I was okay with. I'm not asking you. Do you like Gurkha? I've tried.

SPEAKER_05 1:59:01

Yeah. I've tried. Do you like Gurkha?

SPEAKER_03 1:59:03

No, I I used to. That's what I started like.

SPEAKER_01 1:59:06

They were some of the first cigars.

SPEAKER_05 1:59:07

I love Gurkha Gurkha.

SPEAKER_01 1:59:09

We gave it a college try. I did the research.

SPEAKER_04 1:59:12

They were some of the first cigars I ever smoked. That's all I gotta say about it.

SPEAKER_05 1:59:16

I used to love Gurkha.

SPEAKER_01 1:59:17

It's nostalgic. They're not good at all. That's the only reason.

SPEAKER_05 1:59:20

The quality is not good. You know, it's a new company now. The quality's not good. Hey, if you need to hire me, by the way, uh, I am a business consultant with a doctorate in business. So Gurkha. It is the same thing. Gurkha, I can help you out.

SPEAKER_01 1:59:34

It's the same reason why you like Salisbury steak. Because it's the nostalgia. It's familiar. It's familiar.

SPEAKER_05 1:59:41

Nuh-uh, dude. No. See, now you cross the line. You cross the line. I love it. No, you crossed the line. I love Salisbury steak.

SPEAKER_04 1:59:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:59:49

How about how about a banquet?

SPEAKER_04 1:59:50

How about it's got to be the makeup one, the frozen one.

SPEAKER_05 1:59:54

Chicken fried steak.

SPEAKER_04 1:59:55

You get the cosmic brownies with the penguin.

SPEAKER_03 1:59:57

Oh lord.

SPEAKER_04 1:59:58

Yeah. Hey, guess what? The penguin with the free cracker barrel.

SPEAKER_05 2:00:01

Cracker barrel, the chicken fried steak. Four crunches one a day. Oh man. I could do that every day. I could eat that every day. Chicken fried steak from Cracker Barrel with the gravy on it, with the sausage gravy, and biscuits and gravy.

SPEAKER_04 2:00:14

Why would you do that when you can get it down in Salisbury steak?

SPEAKER_05 2:00:17

I love Salisbury steak. You're saying I only love it because it's nostalgic.

SPEAKER_04 2:00:22

Yeah. You don't want your gravy to come in a frozen cube? Come on, man. Or you just heat it up. You gotta constantly stir it to melt it down? Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_05 2:00:29

I'm trying to get away from all that shit and just make everything myself.

SPEAKER_04 2:00:32

This is why I get confused when I'm in the frozen aisle. It's like, hey, this is like real Italian cuisine. And I'm like, damn, they don't they put ice in their shit? This is weird.

SPEAKER_06 2:00:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:00:41

Don't look at all the ingredients. I've never seen a YouTube video where the dude puts ice chunks in the pan, but I'm stirring it around.

SPEAKER_01 2:00:49

One of the brands we gotta start cut um having here at George's is Dunbarton.

SPEAKER_03 2:00:54

Dunbarton?

SPEAKER_01 2:00:56

Dunbarton Tobacco and Trust? Oh, that's a sweet tobacco. Yeah. I thought he was talking about food. Food. No, no, no. Like we're gonna keep it.

SPEAKER_03 2:01:04

Liga Pravada number nines? Yes. So League of Pravada No.

SPEAKER_04 2:01:08

That's as far as it goes, though.

SPEAKER_05 2:01:10

Is that what that's like?

SPEAKER_04 2:01:11

Like I don't like the rat. I don't like the rat the Razilla.

SPEAKER_05 2:01:17

Have you had Liga Pravada?

SPEAKER_04 2:01:19

Dude, I've had Liga Bravadas that I didn't like.

SPEAKER_05 2:01:21

Really? I'd take really I've had Liga Bravadas.

SPEAKER_04 2:01:27

And this is what we're on the show for. It's like just being totally nonsense. Oh yeah, exactly. Like cancel me, bro. Hey, Yetis make your drink colder. Fucking muscles. Fuck all you.

SPEAKER_02 2:01:41

Fuck all y'all. And I smoke weed. What else? What can we do more?

SPEAKER_04 2:01:47

Who does it? Who does it? So um but I've had Liga Bravados that I've liked.

SPEAKER_03 2:01:53

Yeah. So Liga Bravada, their master blender, one, Liga Bravado number nine was the cigar that wasn't supposed to happen. It was only supposed to be like a small batch. But really.

SPEAKER_04 2:02:01

It was such a keynote smoke now for them.

SPEAKER_03 2:02:04

100%. But then their master blender went over to Dumbarton Trust. So now Dumbarton Trust. Oh, okay. He's got the same blend. Very similar blend.

SPEAKER_01 2:02:12

Yeah. Yep. He's the mastermind behind it all.

SPEAKER_05 2:02:16

Well, we will we'll wait till you get back to the street.

SPEAKER_04 2:02:18

We need to freaking get old buddy Drew Estate Terrible in here and sit down on the mic. Who's that? Uh what's his name? Drew Estate Terrible. Come on, man. You know who he is. Drew Estate Terrible?

SPEAKER_05 2:02:34

Like someone that loves Drew Estate or what?

SPEAKER_04 2:02:37

He's been here before, dude.

SPEAKER_05 2:02:38

We have so many people who have been here.

SPEAKER_04 2:02:41

He's a rep.

SPEAKER_01 2:02:44

Drew Estate rep? Yes. He's biased. Yeah. We talk about like politics. Will.

SPEAKER_05 2:02:51

His name's Will. Will McFall. Oh, Will. I know Will. No, I'm kidding. I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 2:02:57

Will McFall, there's a dude.

SPEAKER_05 2:02:59

If he has show me a picture, I'll play. He's showing me a picture. What happened there?

SPEAKER_04 2:03:12

Look at cigarettes.

SPEAKER_03 2:03:19

Yeah, simple products. That's it.

SPEAKER_05 2:03:24

Oh yeah, yeah. I've met him. Have I met him? I think I've met him. If you could only Is it racist that I said I think I've met him?

SPEAKER_04 2:03:38

There's only room for one. Roger.

SPEAKER_05 2:03:40

What you should do is send another Asian to be in your one. And we'll be like, hey Roger, wait, are we racist for thinking Roger?

SPEAKER_01 2:03:47

Yeah. Do it. I bet you you guys would fail.

SPEAKER_05 2:03:52

Fuck you. Fail hard as I swear to God, dude.

SPEAKER_01 2:03:55

This guy doesn't sound as literate.

SPEAKER_05 2:03:57

I swear to God, the first time I when I saw in your uniform, I was like, wait, what? Yeah. Oh, you really are a Navy psychologist. Or psychiatrist, sorry.

SPEAKER_01 2:04:05

Psychiatrist.

SPEAKER_05 2:04:06

Psychiatrist.

SPEAKER_01 2:04:07

All the Marines were looking at my collar device, like, what the fuck is that?

SPEAKER_05 2:04:10

Yeah. When did we put plants on our stuff? Cody tells Cody keeps telling this story. He's a master gunnery sergeant, E9. I'm j I'm a first sergeant E8. Boom. A major behind me. We walk into the avionic shop, and all they gave a shit about was they were like, There's a fur sergeant right there.

SPEAKER_04 2:04:31

That's a first sergeant.

SPEAKER_05 2:04:33

Like Cody told me that. I was like, I didn't even know that. We do show up to work. No, no, no, we're not in the air wing. They exist. They exist. First sergeants are not in the air. This is our first nation. Oh, shut up. They're not in the air wing. They're not in the air wing. We don't have them in the air wing, is what is why they're like, unless you fuck up. They're like, what? So I'm like, there's like E fucking nine with four rockers. I only have three. Why are you looking at me? You know what I mean? Because they don't ever see a first sergeant. So when I was when I was in the aircraft. When I was in the air wing, I was like, if I saw first sergeant, I was like, but it, you know, it's so it's like, but then you got a major behind me. They didn't get they were like, first sergeant.

SPEAKER_04 2:05:14

What about when they were just looking at the major the whole time? They're like, they weren't even looking at you. That major, by the way. They're just looking at the major, like, damn, it's a major.

SPEAKER_05 2:05:21

No, Cody's the one that told me this. He's like, Did you see what everybody just said? No, why what's up? Yeah, yeah, it definitely was. And he's like, dude, they were all just looking at it.

SPEAKER_01 2:05:30

He's just trying to hype you up.

SPEAKER_05 2:05:31

But the major is a lieutenant colonel Solette.

SPEAKER_01 2:05:34

That major is one of the most yoked majors. He's my boy.

SPEAKER_05 2:05:39

He's my boy from back in the day. We were staffarns together.

SPEAKER_04 2:05:42

So, really, the way the train came down, they're like, yo, that dude's lit. That dude's lit. Who the fuck is a dude? Who's the little guy in the middle, man? Like, why the guy? Why the fuck do they let this sleeves? I bet he looks softball. That's a major softball.

SPEAKER_05 2:05:58

He looks like he's been retired forever, dude. Like, why is he suck so bad?

SPEAKER_04 2:06:02

Yeah, they're like, damn, somebody must have made a wish to be a first target. You look good in your uniform. Thank you, sir.

SPEAKER_05 2:06:08

Thank you, sir. Benjamin.

SPEAKER_03 2:06:09

Benjamin.

SPEAKER_05 2:06:10

No, thank you. But I really did. Like, I I I felt bad because it was like people were trying to open door. I'm like, stop. I've never been this dude. I've never, like, even now. I'm retired. I'm retired.

SPEAKER_04 2:06:21

Even in the hospital, they were like, yo, you sure your last wish is to be a first sergeant? You could be a major, bro.

SPEAKER_05 2:06:29

And I was like, yes.

SPEAKER_02 2:06:32

Like, are you sure?

SPEAKER_05 2:06:35

First sergeant or major, right in $89.99 or major. What would you rather be? I'd rather be in $89.99.

SPEAKER_01 2:06:42

I'd rather be your paycheck would rather be American.

SPEAKER_05 2:06:46

If it's about the money, then yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:06:47

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 2:06:49

If it's about the clout. I don't know, man. I'm gonna choose first sergeant.

SPEAKER_01 2:06:54

Oh, okay.

unknown 2:06:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 2:06:56

I'm gonna choose America. I have 213 Marines under me. How many do you have under you?

SPEAKER_01 2:07:01

4,400. Oh, because you're gonna do the regiment all the time. Because you're doing the regiment.

SPEAKER_05 2:07:06

You got like four fucking corpsmen or some shit that work for you. Ask me. No. Corpsmen that work for you. Two? Yeah, two? Okay. They're all but they're both PhTs. That's my point. Yeah. No, I it was nice. It was cool seeing you, dude. That was awesome.

SPEAKER_04 2:07:23

Dude, it was nice. So uh who else? Him looking at me in my uniform.

SPEAKER_05 2:07:27

Tyler, too. Yeah. Was in uniform. That was cool, man. Seeing everybody in uniform.

SPEAKER_01 2:07:31

I was like, dude, look at us.

SPEAKER_05 2:07:33

Everybody was gifted. Look at us. You were you fucking you look nice. No, I wouldn't you wear a uniform. No, I was not. No, he wasn't in a uniform, but he was like but he was like, he looked nice. This took me seven business months to grow, bro. I'm not deleting this.

SPEAKER_01 2:07:48

He would have put on his uniform and had his nose-shaved shit. Right there's fucking front buttons.

SPEAKER_05 2:07:54

I don't even think he could fit in his uniform anymore, honestly.

SPEAKER_03 2:07:58

They're a little they're a little bit more.

SPEAKER_05 2:08:00

They're probably big now because you're so fucking small. Yeah, dude, mine You are skinny now.

SPEAKER_04 2:08:04

Mine was small on me, though. You saw how much I could pull mine out.

SPEAKER_01 2:08:11

The point I was saying was like looking. I mean, I've seen you and I've seen Cody just kind of talk in casual. Pause. The way that the way that you guys talk with the Marie's. Well we're gonna have to keep pausing. No, the way that they talked was totally different than the way that they talk around this table.

SPEAKER_05 2:08:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:08:39

Completely different. Right. Hey girl. Cody comes off with a different bravado. You come off with the different bravado. I had to put on the voice that's a good thing. Bro, Cody is like very personalities describe. Cody's a soft smoking person. Well, I I think it's like an imposter. No, he's a impossible very well.

SPEAKER_03 2:08:55

He keeps saying he's a first sergeant, but it's like, were you really?

SPEAKER_01 2:08:57

Were you really? Were you really?

SPEAKER_05 2:08:59

But I'm assuming that you didn't get that from the speech? No. I'm assuming to be honest, was it a shitty speech? No.

SPEAKER_01 2:09:06

No, it was not.

SPEAKER_05 2:09:08

I really want to know.

SPEAKER_04 2:09:09

We couldn't wait for you to ask us. I see in the video I was about to do.

SPEAKER_05 2:09:12

I want to know if it was bad or not. Because I felt like I was like, I wanted to be quick. I wanted to touch on I love my brother. I'm very proud of him, but I'm gonna make some jokes a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 2:09:21

Did you say I love you at the end?

SPEAKER_05 2:09:22

I did, I think. Not at the end, but I told him I loved him.

SPEAKER_01 2:09:25

Kind of throughout the whole thing. Yeah. I thought it was great. I think the whole time it was very thank you.

SPEAKER_05 2:09:31

You're a true friend.

SPEAKER_01 2:09:32

It was fucking emotional, it was heartfelt. It was a lot of personal stuff. And I think like talk about edging. That's why it had to have right on the edge.

SPEAKER_04 2:09:42

And you're like, are you about to are you just what was it?

SPEAKER_01 2:09:48

Are you just breathing hard? Are you just breathing out? I'm not covering it.

SPEAKER_05 2:09:55

That's why I had to have it printed out. I didn't want to fuck this up.

SPEAKER_01 2:09:58

I I thought it was great. The part that uh got me like on the verge of crying was when that's what I want to ask.

SPEAKER_04 2:10:05

Did you get choked up ever?

SPEAKER_01 2:10:07

Yeah, that was when Cody was talking about how uh Mila was calming him down on the car ride. And he was like breathing fatter. He's like, she was like, it'll it'll be okay, though. It'll be okay. And they don't even know, like they don't even know, like it's no, but they know their dad knows they're stressed with all of these. It's not even just stress, it's just like they know uh because I'm sure he's talked to them about it. And you're like for context to the viewers, you're a father, so you can yeah, but um yeah, honestly, like now we're trying to make my kids are older now, bro. My kids are older. I mean, my younger one's like about the same age as me.

SPEAKER_05 2:10:46

How cool is that having a a baby to you? Dad, it's okay.

SPEAKER_01 2:10:49

It's okay, it's okay. And it's and you're like, okay, now fuck everything.

SPEAKER_05 2:10:54

You're damn right it's okay. Because that's all I need right there.

SPEAKER_01 2:10:59

He absolutely has.

SPEAKER_05 2:11:00

He is one of the best dads I've ever freaking met in my life.

SPEAKER_04 2:11:03

And this is just a testament to his fatherhood and his fathership. Dude, I pulled up yesterday, right? And no, everyone's in the backyard. Like, I'm like, dang it, I don't know which way to go in. Do I go into the garage? I go in the front door and I was like, all right, well, I'm gonna just gonna do the regular human thing, and I was like, well, he's got windows on the things. So I look in and I'm like, alright, everyone's outside. Good creeps. I was like, yes. Exactly though, exactly. I'm gonna check. It would be weird if I like looked in and like six people were looking back at me like that was knocked, motherfucker. So, long story short, I go in and his son is in there, and he's like, How you doing, sir?

SPEAKER_05 2:11:47

Chance did did awesome yesterday, man. Oh, yeah, he's good, dude. He freaking did a lot of work yesterday.

SPEAKER_04 2:11:52

I don't really know. I don't think he said so. He's like, How you doing?

SPEAKER_05 2:11:54

But he was like telling people where to put things, like we didn't even know where to put the yeah, he was he's bro, he was immediately like, Thanks.

SPEAKER_04 2:12:00

Coming. I was like, thanks for having me.

SPEAKER_03 2:12:02

And classic TK, but I didn't know.

SPEAKER_04 2:12:05

But I didn't know I didn't know Lovelian response. I didn't know who he was, though. I didn't know that it was his son. Yeah. And so we get to talking or whatever. And he's like, Yeah. I was like, um, yeah, I'm just here to greet Cody and just tell him congratulations. He was like, Well, I'm his son. And I was like, Oh, well, great to meet you. Nice. Great to meet you. And he's like, Alright, well, you can put your stuff down here, and like, hey, the bathroom is back that way if you need to use it. And he was just like, that's awesome. And I was like, dude, I was like, yo, thank you so much, bro. Thank you. His hair tells me.

SPEAKER_05 2:12:33

I was like, chance, where can we put this? Where can we put this? We put it up in the upstairs. And me and Ben were like, nah, we're just gonna put it in the living room.

SPEAKER_01 2:12:41

And and I Cody's never gonna say we're just gonna put a blanket over the top.

SPEAKER_04 2:12:46

And that's what we did. I got a little bit long-winded on that, but just to say it's like, Joe, if you have a son that just operates that way as a young man, it's like enough said. Yeah, he's a good kid. That's a testament to like you're you you've did it.

SPEAKER_05 2:12:59

Yeah. And I think Cody is very happy with how all of it played out as far as the ceremony and his kids being there. It was beautiful. It was beautiful. You know, minus. You know, they were just a nice hanger over there. He's gonna remember his kids being there, he's gonna remember them getting flags, he's gonna remember getting speeches. He's gonna remember all of us being there. He'll remember all of us being there, the speeches, and I swear to God, I can't I can't say this enough. Thank you so much, Cigar Shop family, for being there.

SPEAKER_01 2:13:29

We're we are proud of him. I wish I could have been there.

SPEAKER_05 2:13:33

So proud of him. I know. I just I I'm so I when I everybody showing up, I was like, thank God. You know, because like as his good friend, I'm like, I wish your family was here, brother. But I had to say something about that. I was like, but look around you. You have a family. This is your family. And he loves us, and we love him, and thank God that he had such a you know good retirement and a good retirement party.

SPEAKER_01 2:13:57

Okay now we get to teach him how to how to do things right.

SPEAKER_05 2:14:00

Bro, and he's got an entire bourbon.

SPEAKER_01 2:14:04

Yeah, look at his he saw the top of the fridge, right?

SPEAKER_05 2:14:07

Yeah, uh, he had a better collection than me.

SPEAKER_01 2:14:09

I'm like, he said he was like, I get why you guys do this now.

SPEAKER_05 2:14:14

Oh that's when when he had when he was how many deep. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:14:19

That was that was a proud friend moment right here. Like right now, he's still got like ice uh spheres in his cup. And we'll get him to graduate from that. 100%. But you know, for him to just drink whiskey, one cup even one multiple and he went the night.

SPEAKER_05 2:14:38

But he went the night with us. Yeah, he was hurting at 35. But he went the night. Was he killed at 34 hours? Oh, dude.

SPEAKER_04 2:14:45

He was killed.

SPEAKER_05 2:14:46

We were all done. We were all fucking drunk. I'm like, why are we here? Can we go home?

SPEAKER_04 2:14:50

Were you there, Ben?

SPEAKER_05 2:14:51

Like, you were there. No, Ben. We Ben Ben, we I went to bed at four o'clock in the morning at Cody's house, woke up at 7 30 and drove home to sleep more. A guy died at Cody's house in between that. A person died at his at his neighbor's house on the sleep in the yard. In between that time. I'm tired of talking about that.

SPEAKER_04 2:15:18

It was basically God that killed. You see what could happen to you, bro? So my brain happens when you push the gas pedal together. But my brain, my brain still wasn't drinking bourbon.

SPEAKER_05 2:15:27

Yeah, but my brain still wasn't fully awake, so I was like, wait, a guy's dying on your yard right now? Yeah, Lee's like, uh, bro, there's a whole fucking dude over there. He's telling me about it as I'm going to his house. I'm like, wait, what? He's dying? And he goes, dude, they've been trying to work on him forever. And I'm like, was he at our party? That's what I asked. And he was like, No, no, no, no. It's nobody we knew. And he told No, I swear to God, I thought that he was at our party.

SPEAKER_04 2:15:56

I know that you're saying it for real. But he's like, Ben and I are desensitized to this.

SPEAKER_05 2:16:00

But he said, no, there was a dog fight, he was trying to break it up and he collapsed. And that's when everybody came in and tried to do all the stuff. Still, man, God bless. I mean, that is just tragic. You know.

SPEAKER_01 2:16:13

So I was Ben, uh, what are you gonna smoke? Me and Ben are like out of here.

SPEAKER_03 2:16:18

Ben, are you gonna eat all that? All right, y'all ready? Y'all ready to end it? I mean, what a hell of a note to end it on, but uh I think it's probably best. No, dude, I'm so sorry.

SPEAKER_05 2:16:31

Let's do yeah, we're this podcast is over after this. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for letting us episode 35 be out.

SPEAKER_04 2:16:40

I hope that it's good, but TK's like above us want to do this. Yeah, because we're gonna get canceled. We're never gonna have another fucking episode.

SPEAKER_05 2:16:49

Episode 35 coming to an end. Oh. Exactly.

SPEAKER_04 2:16:53

Even God doesn't even want us to shit to end.

SPEAKER_05 2:16:55

God, God doesn't even want to. Oh, dude, you didn't know it's end. Alright, let's have some final thoughts. TK. Thanks for having me. You gotta final thoughts. Give us some final thoughts.

SPEAKER_04 2:17:07

My final thoughts are, man, I had a great time yesterday at freaking Cody's retirement, man. And thank you to all my brothers and sisters that are just serving this country and have served this country. I always salute them and appreciate them. I love them. I wish I would have been one of them. And it's like my hat goes. We appreciate you, brother. That is my final thoughts. It's an appreciation.

SPEAKER_05 2:17:28

Thank you. Thank you. We appreciate you.

SPEAKER_04 2:17:30

Thank you so much. Right. And not from the corny level. Let's go.

SPEAKER_01 2:17:34

Amy doesn't want to.

SPEAKER_05 2:17:35

Amy, you're not gonna do some final thoughts?

SPEAKER_04 2:17:37

I'll just do hers for her. She was like, Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 2:17:41

I was in the Air Force and then. Amy, thank you. Thank you for Amy, thank you for representing the bottom half. Amy, you did awesome, by the way.

SPEAKER_05 2:17:54

She said, hey, I'm not an army motherfucker. No, Amy did awesome.

SPEAKER_01 2:17:58

They got four fire as vab.

SPEAKER_05 2:18:00

Yeah. I don't know about that.

SPEAKER_01 2:18:02

I never took the ASVAB.

SPEAKER_05 2:18:03

What's your ASVAB score? No, right now, what's your ASVAB score?

SPEAKER_01 2:18:09

Right now. 89, baby. Damn, I said 89.

SPEAKER_05 2:18:12

89. 89. Also money. Anyway, keep going.

SPEAKER_01 2:18:16

You can never get it on the uh send us your uh recommendations for money, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 2:18:23

Send us money too much.

SPEAKER_01 2:18:24

Money and recommendations for uh a better Gurkha than Gurkha Cress.

SPEAKER_05 2:18:29

Gurkha sucks.

SPEAKER_01 2:18:30

Um yeah, or any good cigar that you guys uh recommend that we haven't talked about so far.

SPEAKER_05 2:18:36

Please. Yes. Alright. Dakota.

SPEAKER_03 2:18:40

Yeah, friends don't let friends uh smoke mediocre gurkas, especially if they cost $4. Uh that's a good final thought. And then second, uh do a little bit of research before you go you smoke your cigar and you drink your drink. Make sure you get a good pairing. All right. There's a lot of information out there that'll teach you how to pair it, that'll bring out flavors of each. If you're doing it a while, you're gonna have a better experience. Back to the earlier point, find your local cigar shop, find your table. This is our table. Find your table. Find your way here. Hell yes, dude. I love it. Say it again for the people of that. Find your freaking cigar. This is our table, find your way here. Find your more than welcome.

SPEAKER_05 2:19:16

Find your table, find your way back, find your find your people. And that's how you're gonna find your group because we had a uh a definite show for Cody's retirement. I thought it was awesome. Uh, my final takeaway is Gurkha sucks. Uh the government sucks. And uh, you know, we're we're getting lied to about a lot of things, but that's okay. We're gonna get canceled soon. No, seriously, Gurkha sucks, but it you it used to be it used to be much better. It used to be much better. Be better, guys. Sorry. So we are the hot asses podcast. I'm Lee.

SPEAKER_04 2:19:50

TK in the building.

SPEAKER_05 2:19:52

Thank you so much for listening. We'll see you next time.