Struggling With Self-Discipline? Here's the Fix!

Why is self-discipline so hard—and how do you build more of it?

In Episode 12 of Run With The Cheetahs, Russell Anderson and Jerry Freistadt dive deep into one of the most misunderstood keys to success: discipline.

They discuss why motivation alone won’t save you, how comfort can quietly sabotage progress, and the habits, systems, and mindset shifts that help extraordinary people stay on track.

This episode is packed with practical wisdom on routines, accountability, resilience, and creating momentum through small daily wins.

If you’ve ever struggled to stay consistent—or know you’re capable of more—this conversation will hit home.

Jerry Freishtat
CEO of Wealth Climber | Serial Entrepreneur | Investor | Advisory for Startup Entrepreneurs | Speaker | Author | Committed to innovation, growth, and making a positive impact on the world.

Russell Anderson
Founder, President ACS Creative; Marketing & Design (30+ years of growing brands; global and local)
Serial Entrepreneur, Forever Student of Business - and Life

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Discipline all starts with a foundation, right? You know, and it is, it's like, you know, whenever you look at an elite athlete, you know, and how they practice and and the routines that they do and the discipline, and a lot of it's boring as hell. And and I think I mentioned in the last podcast, you know, Michael Jordan started every single practice with 100 chess passes. Uh Phil Mickelson and golf, he's like famous for, you know, making um like a hundred uh three-foot consecutive putts before he would end his practice day every day, you know, and you know, and you look at the level that these guys achieve by working on the basics. So um what I I in my book um I have a I have a chapter called the The Foundation. And this all starts with mastering the foundation, and the foundation are the basics. Yes. Okay. And I do a correlation because my background was in golf. You know, I do a correlation to shooting par in golf, how hard that is, less than one percent of people ever do that. And to shoot par in life, it's the same thing. Less than one percent of people ever achieve an elite extraordinary life. However, the word par in my book is P-A-R-R-R. It's persistence, accountability, reliability, responsibility, and resilience. And when I'm doing talks with groups or people, and I emphasize this with kids all the time, when I'm done with that part, I say to everybody, I said, you know what? All that that I just said, persistence, accountability, reliability, responsibility, resilience, I said, it's all useless. It's all just just verbiage without one thing. And I ask everybody, what is that one thing? And to this day, not one person has been able to tell me. And it's discipline.

SPEAKER_00 2:16

Ladies and gentlemen, hello there. My name is Russell Anderson, and welcome to episode 12 of Run with the Cheetahs, your guide to an extraordinary life. We have an amazing episode for you today. I'm so excited about this, I can hardly stand it. We're gonna be talking about something that pretty much everybody deals with. And I've made some calls, I've done some interviews, I've done some research prior to this, and I'm gonna tell you this is gonna be an episode that I think is one of the most impactful that we're gonna do. We're gonna be talking about self-discipline. Yep, we're gonna be talking about the D-word, self-discipline. It's a big word, and uh it's a tough word, and we all struggle with it. By the way, let me just tell you, if you don't already have this book, this is a big time book. My friend Jerry Freistadt wrote this, friend and client, I'll say. He wrote it. It's an amazing book. Most of the material that we do in these episodes comes from this book. And uh if you don't already have it, I highly encourage you. Let me also add that uh the author, Jerry Freistadt, who will be with us here in just a moment, he is also available for speaking engagements. Uh, he's done some recent speaking engagements that have just been off the chart, fabulous. So uh, you know, if you think this sort of content is something that your group, organization, business, community organization might enjoy, check in with us, let us know. He is available. If it's local to the Washington metro area, it's an easy piece of cake. If it's not local, we'll make some arrangements. So uh if you're interested in having Jerry come out and speak with your group, let us know. He's available. I'm gonna bring him in right now and say hello. Jerry, come on in here and say hey.

SPEAKER_01 4:05

Hey there, Russell. Hey, great day today. Uh, again, getting into one of my absolutely favorite topics. And the reason it's it's so important to discipline, it's probably of all the self-impro self-improvement, self-learning issues, it's probably the most misunderstood. And I think today, um, as we go through the content, we're gonna be talking about several different aspects of discipline. You know, just try to grab one or two of these, one or two that you can, you know, implement, you know, educate yourself on, you know, and and and take that leap in into something successful, you know, because um as we're gonna speak, everything, and I mean everything, starts with discipline.

SPEAKER_00 4:52

Jerry, I couldn't agree more. And let me make a prediction. I predict that this episode will be one of our most watched, most appreciated, most shared, and most impactful with the people who watch it. So I'm gonna let me say to everyone who might be watching today, please, if you like this, let us know. Share it with your friends. There's gonna be some great material. And as Jerry just said, if you can take one thing away from this that can make a change in your life, as far as I'm concerned, that's a big win. Fantastic. So discipline, Jerry, it's a tough subject. You know, the D-word. I mean, uh, everybody that I've spoken to and I've made some calls, everybody I've spoken to leading up to this, everybody struggles with this to a degree. Um, and everyone has slightly different issues with it. I can't wait to cover them all. But let me ask you, let me just kick it off with this. Jerry, why is this so tough? Why is self-discipline so tough?

SPEAKER_01 5:52

Well, let me let me explain this um a couple different ways. Um, probably the the first aspect of it is is an acknowledgement of that we we always view everything outside of our arena as our competition, you know, as where we're trying to get to or we're trying to achieve whatever it is that we're doing. Um but the reality of it is when it comes to discipline, you're gonna face your toughest competitor you'll ever face yourself. And, you know, one of my favorite quotes, this is a Ray Lewis line, and this is something, again, when I talk about these quotes and I give you give you this stuff, you know, you know, I I recommend you you you get your like top ten and look at them all the time, you know, memorize them, get them, get them, you know, ingrained. This is one of my favorites. Wins and losses come a dime a dozen, but effort nobody can judge that because effort is between you and you. And that related to discipline, that that quote just kind of you know sums it up that the discipline that executes and gets you going and keeps that regiment and everything else going, it's a hundred percent internal. It's not coming from outside sources. So you have to acknowledge that to begin with. The other aspect of why it's so hard is things have changed over thousands of years. And as most of you know from previous podcasts, or if you read my book, you know, I'm a huge on human nature and the way humans are built and how how we're um biologically processed and how our brains work and so forth. And what what's occurred over time is the world of abundance has taken away a portion of the built-in disciplines of nature. And let me explain what I mean by that. So let's just go back to our hunter days, right? Back then, you had no choice but to be disciplined. It wasn't a want, it was a need, right? And the comfort in ancient times was something that was always earned. It wasn't given. It wasn't, you know, something that was just, you know, a part of your daily routine. So, you know, if you if you think about it that way, in the modern world and the way humans are built, if you're gonna execute the things that give you self-worth, self-esteem, you are gonna have to self-inflict that discipline upon yourself. You're gonna have to get engaged in some level of pain and suffering on a daily basis as to the way we were built thousands of years ago, in order for your self-esteem and and your level of contentment and peace of mind to get to those levels of you know, feeling, you know, a level of confidence about yourself and your personal development. Um, you know, the development of, you know, again, going back, you know, thousands of years ago, over that time frame, we've developed what's called like a higher brain. And and that's been mostly beneficial. Okay. Uh we're obviously we're way more intelligent, you know, look at the world today and and uh and and the development of how things have have evolved over time, but it's not all beneficial, okay, because most humans perform out of need, not out of want. And when you take the need away, it is a it's a negative input to to the disciplines that you can try that you're trying to implement. And it makes it harder to actually do that because comfort is so easy.

SPEAKER_00 10:00

You know, I don't want to get I don't want to derail us this early, but you know what? The whole thing about why do we prefer comfort, you know, why it's just such a terrible I mean it's what a what a negative thing it is that we have such a desire for comfort.

SPEAKER_01 10:16

Well, again, Drussell, I think I think it's just part of the um natural human process of the way we're biologically made. That that, you know, when you know the hunter went out in the caveman days and he had a big kill that day, well, that that led to a couple days of comfort, you know, family's eating good, everything's great, you know, and and that that's a built-in part of our biological makeup to seek comfort. But when we get too much of it, it takes away the drive. Wow. And the drive, the drive is what builds who you are. And so the second you get in that comfort zone and you stay there, generally you're headed down a negative path.

SPEAKER_00 11:01

You know, so many people that talk about discipline, it's a very uh the continuum, the continuum of people that talk about discipline is wide. And, you know, you're you're a pretty hardcore guy, and I really respect that about you. And I'm gonna make a reference to Gate David Goggins here for a minute, you know. Uh David Goggins is someone who talks about suffering. And you know, I don't like that word. And here in a little bit, we're gonna talk about semantics. We're gonna talk about words because I think words, I think words in this conversation actually become real important. You mentioned pain and suffering a little bit earlier. David Goggins talks about suffering. I think you've got a quote coming up here in a little bit that is a David Goggins. But you know, I'm I'm not a huge fan of that word. Now, don't get me wrong, you know me well enough to know I love to work. I mean, I'm I'm a hard worker. And rather than talk about suffering, I like words like grind. I do hard things, you know. I I I kind of, but I stop short of that going to suffering. But I guess it's whatever gets the job done for you. And it's important that everybody find the words and the semantics that work for them. What makes you move? What makes you move the needle? What elevates you to the next stage? Do you agree with that?

SPEAKER_01 12:23

Yeah, well, I mean, let me let me address the suffering issue. Um, and here's here's part of what David David Goggins um believes is that if you don't inflict some type of self-suffering upon yourself, it's going to be inflicted upon you anyways, right? So every single one of us has gone through something that happened, an external situation, something, you know, that happened in our lives, you know, a crisis, you know, that call that you never want to get, you know. Um, and and and that's suffering, right? So um suffering is again is part of being able to endure and recover. And every time you endure and every time you recover, you come out a better person on the other side. And uh, David Goggins quote, by the way, is uh you know, it takes yeah, it takes relentless self-discipline to schedule suffering into your day every day. Right. And so, you know, he he's a core believer in that the more you discipline yourself to do really hard things, and that guy's done a lot of hard stuff, and he's by the way, let me also say if you haven't read his book, Can't Hurt Me, most people don't know this if you didn't read the book. You need to learn about that guy's childhood because suffering was inflicted upon him, not by choice. And again, that is something that if you're if you if you understand about how to self-inflict suffering when it's inflicted upon you, you're gonna handle it a whole lot better. Um, yeah, go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 14:01

Well, I was gonna say, so you know, the for me, and again, I have not yet grown, I have not yet evolved to really fully appreciate David Goggins. He's still extreme for me. You know, he's still very extreme for me. But I will tell you this about something that he says and what I believe strongly in. When we talk in a little bit about the different components of discipline, you know, one of the main components and the one that most people identify with is willpower. And, you know, we're gonna learn about willpower here in a little bit, but David Goggins says you can train your mind. And I know, I know you're into this big time. You can train your mind. And I do subscribe wholeheartedly to that. So no matter where you are right now on the willpower journey, you can train your mind to be better. And willpower is one of the most talked about, discussed components of discipline, willpower. And you can train your mind. David Goggins is a big, big, big proponent of training your mind. So I'm all into that. I just haven't yet grown to that whole suffering thing. Suffering is, I don't like that word.

SPEAKER_01 15:19

Yeah, so so let me let me jump into like the we we might have got a little bit ahead of ourselves here. So, you know, the the the it all starts, discipline all starts with a foundation, right? You know, and it is it's like, you know, whenever you look at a elite athlete, you know, and how they practice and and the routines that they do and the discipline, and a lot of it's boring as hell. And and I think I mentioned in the last podcast, you know, Michael Jordan started every single practice with 100 chess passes. Uh Phil Mickelson and golf, he's like famous for, you know, making um like a hundred uh three-foot consecutive putts before he would end his practice day every day, you know, and you know, and you look at the level that these guys achieve by working on the basics. So um what I I in my book um I have a I have a chapter called the The Foundation. And this all starts with mastering the foundation, and the foundation are the basics. Yes. Okay. And I do a correlation because my background was in in golf. You know, I do a correlation to shooting par in golf, how hard that is, less than one percent of people ever do that. And to shoot par in life, it's the same thing. Less than one percent of people ever achieve an elite extraordinary life. However, the word par in my book is P-A-R-R-R. It's persistence, accountability, reliability, responsibility, and resilience. And when I'm doing talks with groups or people, and I emphasize this with kids all the time, when I'm done with that part, I say to everybody, I said, you know what? All that that I just said, persistence, accountability, reliability, responsibility, resilience. I said, it's all useless. It's all just verbiage without one thing. And I ask everybody, what is that one thing? And to this day, not one person has been able to tell me. And it's discipline. Ah, okay. It's discipline. So if you want to shoot par in life, these are the categories you got to work on and you got to fund, but you know, get those basics down. But every single aspect in there requires discipline to execute, right? So if you go and again, this is out of my book, you know, P-A-R-R, when you add a D on the end, it's party, right? That's your internal party. You'll live the rest of your life if you could implement your disciplines to all the uh basics of the foundation. So uh, you know, the the uh the answer to that is practice, rehearse, repeat. I love practice, rehearse, repeat. I mean, it's just a every single level of highly successful people have been in the trenches doing all the detail, all the stuff, all the boring work, everything they didn't want to do to get that moving.

SPEAKER_00 18:26

Jerry, this is not in our notes, but I have to jump in for a minute. You know, the word commitment has an awful lot to do with the word discipline.

SPEAKER_01 18:36

Right.

SPEAKER_00 18:37

You know, uh, I mean, there if you don't make a commitment to do something or to be somebody, then the discipline is uh just kind of a just kind of a secondary conversation. But if you make the commitment to do something, and by the way, we've talked before, there are different levels of commitment. If you have a teenage daughter who's out on a Friday night with her friends, and you have agreed to be the person to pick her up at 11 o'clock or whatever time is the right, if you've made that commitment, you better be there. That's a commitment you're gonna hold to, okay? I mean, that's a hard and fast, full stop commitment. Is that the level of commitment we have about getting up early in the morning?

SPEAKER_01 19:28

Is that the level of very similar, but but but but let's look at it a different way, right? Making the commitment itself requires discipline, right? So, you know, executing it is a different level of discipline, but just think about how many people that just don't commit. Yes. Yeah, that gets back to that gets back to my difference between uh goals and dreams, right? You know, the things that you dream about are, you know, are things that are going to happen, you know, five years, ten years down the road. Goals are my commitments and disciplines that I'm executing, you know, five minutes from now, tomorrow, and the next day, right? So, you know, the discipline just to make those commitments is the very beginning of the process.

SPEAKER_00 20:16

You know, Jerry, we're off like a rocket ship here. I mean, we're off like a rocket ship. There's so much good stuff here. But let's let's let's back up just for a moment. Let's talk about some of the myths, some of the myths about discipline. And, you know, the number one myth is that disciplined people are just built with stronger willpower. And this kind of goes back to what we were talking about a minute ago with David Goggins. You know, we all start with some level of willpower capacity, but our environment slowly steals it away. What would you say about is everybody born with willpower?

SPEAKER_01 20:51

100%. Every single person is born with everything built into you that you need to be the most extraordinary elite human being ever put on this earth. Now, you know, not getting into you know genetic deficiencies, things like that, 99% of us fall into that category. So now, just because you're born with it, okay, everything from day one after that becomes environmental and what you're taught, who you're around, what your relationships are. So societal environments have a tendency to steal that from us over time. And again, going back to how the world has become a world of abundance, especially in the United States of America, and you know, anything more than having a roof over your head and a meal to eat is abundance if you compare us to the world. Yeah. Right. So um we have a tendency to get this entitlement attitude, you know, from our environment and in feeling like we're deserved of. Certain things and things like that. And that that steals that born in ingrained disciplines that you have. Um, and again, going back to the Hunter days, you didn't have a choice back then. Yeah. You didn't wake up disciplined. Guess what? Family's not eating today. Sorry, guys. Right. Uh, so so you you need to get that mentality. I mean, I I don't know how to get that into people, but that's how I think. That's how I think. I I gotta feed my family today and tomorrow. What am I doing about it? And I think that if you get get in that mentality, it's gonna take you a long way.

SPEAKER_00 22:37

Well, myth number two is and I know this is one of your favorites right here, buddy. This is this is you, this is all you. You need motivation to get started. How about this whole thing about motivation, huh?

SPEAKER_01 22:50

Yeah, but we we did a whole podcast on that, and and I'm I'm just gonna leave it as simple as this. Action precedes motivation.

SPEAKER_00 22:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:57

Okay. And and and what causes action, the discipline.

SPEAKER_00 23:01

Yeah, very good. And you're right. We we've we've covered this, but it's one of our it's one of our primary tenets, you know. Take some action. You know, what what's what's the Nike thing? Do it. Just do it. Just do it. Just do it, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 23:15

Uh, and then here's and by the way, I love I love the simplicity of the Nike logo. That is just so um, you know, because I view life that way. We we way overcomplicate everything, right? And and but and their their their you know, logo of saying, just do it, it just simplifies it, it's to the point, just go out and execute.

SPEAKER_00 23:36

You know, really on a side note, but because you know I'm a marketing guy, just last week I read the story of that logo. And I I unfortunately I'm not going to be able to recount it exactly, but Phil Knight went to the University of Oregon, and he was like a track star. I mean, Phil Knight, founder of Nike. And uh, you know, he had this idea to found this thing, and he had some girl that, you know, had some lady, young lady, uh, there at the school that he asked to put it together, and she did. And it's gone on to be one of the most amazing logos in the history of design. Uh, but it was really uh just uh just, hey, can you do this for me? And what came out was just magic, just amazing magic. I love that. That's fantastic. Well, you know, myth number three is that we say it's all or nothing. You know, the people say, look, I'm just not cut out for this. You know, I'm just this this is not me. You know, what do you say about that?

SPEAKER_01 24:27

Well, again, self-talk. I mean, that that's what we're essentially what you're what you're talking about here is that you you've convinced yourself of you know lies that somebody educated you on or taught you or who you're around or your parents or whatever it might be, you know, that you know, it's not for me, right? Okay, it's in everybody. You were born with it, okay. And just because it's been suppressed for 20 or 30 years, it's still in there, right? You've got to dig in and and get it. And um the way to do that is you have to uh avoid uh that negative self-talk. They they they cut the what was the way you just phrased it? It's just not me.

SPEAKER_00 25:09

It's just I'm not I'm not cut out for this.

SPEAKER_01 25:12

Right, yeah. And and and and instead of saying that, you know, what why don't you say, hey, I know this is gonna be difficult and hard, but you know what? I th I think maybe that's not me. Right? May may maybe there's just a slight chance that I can do that, right? And and but as long as you are giving yourself that negative feedback loop of um and the th the thing that's devastating, by the way, for most people is they compare themselves to highly successful people, or even you know, people who look to be highly successful, you know, the whole social media thing, you know, people with you know getting on their private jets and all this crap. You know, you start with yourself, and and the only person you need to uh congratulate is yourself and and those incremental steps that you make, you know, it's it's just I get I'll give you another example of this. Let's just take some high school kids, like you mentioned a track team, right? So let's just say, you know, there's you know, 10 kids that you know run the I don't know anything about track, but whatever. Just just just run the hundred yard 100 yard or whatever, 100 meter, whatever it is. Okay, right. And and and there's one kid that's like you know, oh almost a full second faster than everybody else. Yeah. Okay. Well, is that the standard? Is that what you're trying to meet? Is that what you're going for? Or am I looking to get one tenth of a second better every single month? Right? You have to reinforce your own uh thoughts. Remember, I told you your toughest competitor is yourself, and that's that's what you need to face. So if your goal is to cut off that whole second, it's too overwhelming. Especially for a high school kid. I'm never gonna get that fast. That's impossible. It wouldn't matter what I did, I can't do it. But if you focus on that one tenth of a second, and you know and you know it's gonna take a lot of work, a lot of effort, a lot of coaching, and it's gonna take a month or two to just get one tenth of a second better, that's possible. And then guess what? Three months later, it's another tenth. And three months later, it's another tenth. And you know what? It might take two years, and guess what? I caught that guy. Wow. That's the way it works. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:35

You know, you mentioned self-talk again. I I I would say I'm really big on self-talk. I've I've got some good stuff that helps me every day, literally helps me every day. But in the case of something that in the runner, in the example you just used, I would say, you know, I'm running well, but I can do better. I can do better, I can be better, I'm gonna get better. Yep. And you know, and then looking for the ways to improve.

SPEAKER_01 28:03

Right.

SPEAKER_00 28:04

Yeah. Yep. Well, you know, we're gonna get to some strategies. I mean, this is really a core of uh the core of what we want to talk about today, some strategies for how to improve. But you know, there's there's really two things, Jerry, I want to jump in with and talk about. Uh, and we're gonna just kind of be doing a little bit of this off the cuff, but I know we're gonna be good with it. Um, one of them is the number one, one of the biggest obstacles to discipline is distractions. You know, I mean, people get distracted during their day. There's a lot of things that can distract them. And uh it's it's a big deal. And we we need to, we need to, we need to work with these distractions. Um, I had a couple of conversations uh this week with people talking about this topic. And uh, you know, then I'm gonna bring back my old friend right here. Remember this right here, buddy?

SPEAKER_01 28:56

Yeah, I certainly do.

SPEAKER_00 28:58

You know, I talked about the fact that I had a, I confess that I had a uh, you know, a real addiction to these. I mean, I was eating these, and this is the same one that we looked at months ago. Okay, I've never cracked it. I keep it down here in the studio as a reminder. I keep it as a reminder of how I can be successful with my self-discipline. And I've not had a cheese ball in like a year. I mean, it's fantastic because I was eating these all the time. I was standing at the pantry door with this, just popping them into my mouth, you know. So we talked about this once before, and I just wanted to bring it back up. I mean, this is indeed something that I've been able to work with. And and one of those.

SPEAKER_01 29:40

And by the way, you you don't look at that anymore with envy like I want it. No. Now now you look at it as an era of success.

SPEAKER_00 29:54

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 29:56

Right, and motivation, right? Yeah. And and and by the way, having things like that work great. I do the same thing. I I have certain things I keep around me in my office, things like that, reminding me of the pain and suffering I went through so that when I get in a tough spot, it's right there, right? And right in the front of my mind. Okay, nope. Get the positive, you know, get the stinking thinking out of my head. Yeah. And let's move in the right direction. That's what that does.

SPEAKER_00 30:20

And you know, Jerry, so again, I mentioned distractions, which is something we'll discuss a little bit, but what you just said and what I'm people need to design their environments for success. I mean, that's a structure. We're gonna, I know you're gonna bring up structure here in a little bit, but designing your environment for success, one of the best conversations I had this week with somebody about this was they said, look, ever since our kids have been off to college, we don't have any more chips and crackers and donuts in the pantry. So we're not eating them, and we've lost 20 pounds each. I mean, it design your environment for success because willpower can be real tough. Will, you know, if you walk by there and see those cheese balls in there, and like I said months ago when I first introduced that dilemma, I just can't buy cheese balls anymore. I can't buy them because if they're here, I'm gonna eat them, other than this one that I keep here as a reminder that I've been successful. Yeah. So I'm I'm sorry to get us off course, but this designing your environment and understanding distractions, these are all part of the discipline conversation. I mean, these are these are the components and the ingredients of success when we're talking about uh when we're talking about uh discipline. Um so you know, how about how about we jump to restraint for a little bit?

SPEAKER_01 31:51

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 31:52

Now, you know, restraint, matter of fact, I'm gonna I've got a I've got a graphic, Jerry, I'm gonna pull up.

SPEAKER_01 31:58

Yeah, well, actually, let me let me let me give you one quick quote of what we were just what you were just talking about. Go. And by the way, again, most of you know I'm a big Abraham Lincoln guy. I mean, this guy was way ahead of his time. Here we go. Discipline is choosing between what you want now and what you want most. Right? So what you wanted now were your cheese balls, but what you wanted most was a healthier lifestyle.

SPEAKER_00 32:29

Yes, indeed.

SPEAKER_01 32:30

Right. Yes. So so take that quote. Again, I did I think everybody should write that one down. Discipline is choosing between what you want now and what you want most. If you, again, if you if you memorize that or put it on a sticky note in your car, whatever it is, when you're enticed to go down that negative path and do something you know you shouldn't be doing, that'll be the reminder. And eventually, again, you're you're training your feedback in your brain, you're you're burning those new paths in there. Eventually, that stuff will kick in.

SPEAKER_00 33:02

And the other, another one that comes to mind for me is that no matter what our feeling about discipline is, and again, sometimes that's a negative feeling. You know, there's some other words, you know, I'm a word guy. There are some other words I really like that are parallel with discipline. I like the word commitment. I like the word focus. You know, I like the word intent. You know, these are these are words that are similar to discipline, and I think they're all important. But you know, here's one discipline is the bridge between where we are now and where we want to go. It's the bridge. That's what we need to do to get where we want to go. We need to discipline, do the discipline things to get us there. We can make that list of what do we need to do to get us there? That's what discipline is: the bridge between where we are and where we want to go. I think that's very powerful. Yep. This next one, though, this is about restraint because, you know, this is kind of where willpower, the rubber meets the road sometimes with willpower and restraint. And this, you mentioned Abraham Lincoln. I'm gonna go Ben Franklin on you. Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna go some Ben Franklin on you, okay? And I I did, I made the graphic on this, I'll pull it up. Tis easier to suppress the first desire than to satisfy all that follow it. And I I'll tell you what, you know, again, one of the one of the people I talked to this week about this topic said to me, This is exactly what he said. I love donuts. I love donuts. But one bite of a donut and it's over.

SPEAKER_01 34:49

Yeah, I'm gonna eat, I'm gonna eat three or four or five.

SPEAKER_00 34:52

It's exactly right, you know? And so we have to understand that there is a level of restraint that comes into play. And there are strategies for dealing with that, you know. I mean, there are strategies for that. And I think one of the best ones is look, understand that that is an urge of the moment. And if you can pass on that for the moment, it's gonna be better. You're gonna be you're gonna be a little bit better down the road, okay? But let's let's figure out how to pass on that for the moment.

SPEAKER_01 35:20

Right. Yep. I mean, one um my favorite, okay, again, this might not be for everybody, but you got to come up with something that's for you, right? And if you want to use this, that's fine. Because my favorite question that I ask myself, whenever I'm, I don't want to do it, I don't feel like it, you know, it's too hard. And and and by the way, if that happens to everybody, okay. So don't don't think that people that are extremely successful and else don't have those thoughts. They have the thoughts, it's the it's what they do with the thoughts, right? My I always ask myself, what's the alternative? Right? What's the alternative? So, and it's not the alternative of of you know what I'm doing at the moment. It's the alternative of what if I don't do what I should do? I know what I got, right? And if I don't go to the alternative of making something happen, I'm gonna stay with what I got. Right. And so asking that question I have found to be something that again brings to front of mind all the time, you know, and and again, let's just simplify this as as easy as can be. You walk in and you can turn on the TV and grab grab a you know a thing of chips and turn on Netflix and watch something, right? If you at that moment just say to yourself, you know, if I don't do that, what's the alternative? Right? Because if I sit down and do that, nothing is gonna change. I'm gonna continue on a negative downward path and downward spiral in every aspect because it's not just health, it's habits, it's inefficiencies, it's it's lack of commitment to to uh bettering yourself. There's all kinds of things that are wrong with that. And if you if you say, you know, well, what's the alternative? It's a lot easier to get yourself up and go do something more productive. Okay. And again, I'm not saying, again, like everybody should be a robot and you should never sit down and watch Netflix or anything else, but you you you need to have certain built-in disciplines and develop them through specific methodology. And one of those methodologies I use is that question. What's the alternative?

SPEAKER_00 37:57

I like it. I like it a lot. Um, you know, so I want we're gonna go back to restraint just for a moment. I'll tell him tell my own story because, and again, in a in a bit when we talk about strategies, we're gonna talk about structure. You know, sometimes your restraint, if repeated enough, can become a very positive habit or routine. And that is what happened with me with eating ice cream. Okay, now here's the deal: I can eat my weight in ice cream. I mean, I I love ice cream. Okay, but I know, I know that is a bad path for me for a bunch of reasons. Okay, but listen to this. When you have grandkids, when you have grandkids and you're on vacation and everything, everybody wants ice cream. So literally 10, 15 years ago, back when I was carting my grandkids around everywhere and everybody wanted ice cream, I got so that I just didn't order. I ordered ice cream for everybody, I didn't order it. And everyone thought, what, you're not gonna get any ice cream? I said, No, I'm gonna pass on it because I knew that I would like gobble that thing down like there's no tomorrow. And so I did not order it. Well, that has carried forward, and now my wife eats ice cream on occasion, pretty regularly. She loves it in the evening. I'll scoop her out some ice cream. I take one bite. I uh when I'm done scooping her stuff, I take the last bite and I'm done. I have I, and that's how I now get my little bite of ice cream, but I do not eat ice cream. It has become a very good habit for me to not eat ice cream. So, you know, that initial restraint, repeated successfully, as you talk about all the time, has become a wonderful new routine for me.

SPEAKER_01 39:41

And how did that restraint in front of your family, the kids, everything else, how did that boost your own self-esteem?

SPEAKER_00 39:51

Well, I felt great about it. They thought I was a nut.

SPEAKER_01 39:55

Yeah. Well, you don't you don't you don't need to worry about what anybody else thinks because when you do hard things in defiance of other people that you know that are core values and are the right thing to do, it's even more valuable. Wow.

SPEAKER_00 40:10

But that's a true story. And and to this day, again, when I scoop out ice cream for my wife, I take the last bite and that's it.

SPEAKER_01 40:17

All right, Jerry. And and by the way, you know, I'm a big health and wellness nut and everything else. And uh, there's a lot worse things than ice cream. That's first thing. And second thing is once a month to have a scoop of ice cream, go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 40:30

Yeah, yeah. No, no, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not a kook. I'm just I but I mean, I could be in a position where I'm eating ice cream every night, but I don't want to do that, okay? Right, gotcha. Uh so let's now let let's get down to some real core strategies for how people can deal with discipline. And uh, you know, strategy number one, and this is a good one. I mean, this is a darn good one, is lower the bar. Lower the bar. Uh, you know, what why don't you go on and talk about how important that can be to lower the bar?

SPEAKER_01 41:05

Yeah, well, again, I mentioned earlier about dream um dreams versus goals. Okay, so um you if you're if you're focused on, you know, the big stuff, okay, it there's no way to get there, right? You you have to break that way, way down into these little micro goals, little wins, and so forth. The way to do it, and what I'd recommend people do to get started with any discipline is uh set up something really short, like uh set up a series of just just three-day commitments. Okay, so let's just say you're someone hits the snooze alarm. Write this down for three days in a row, I am when that alarm goes off the first time. I'm getting up. Okay. Until you complete that, I don't want you doing anything else. Because if you screw that up for three days, you got to start over. Okay. It just gets back to the same thing of Phil Mickelson making 103-foot putts. If he if he missed the 88th putt, he had to start over. Okay. That is the core of discipline. Let's get one thing down and then let's add the next. And the next one I'd recommend for someone to get get down really good is we all generally wake up with negative thoughts. Okay. Okay, I I I I I don't want to get into the science of that or why we're built like that, but when we wake up most days, it's like we dread something in the day. There's something that's and that's generally our first thought of the day. So again, let's go for three days in a row to reset that thought when you first wake up. Okay. Just just say, hey, tell yourself, get get that thought out of your mind, immediately think of something good that's gonna happen that day, something that's gonna happen later in the day, you know, whatever it might be, you know, you know, something with with your spouse or your kids, whatever. Again, let's do that for three days in a row. Try to, and again, you get you got to figure out what three days you want to do and and what and and make it a small little commitment, but that's just this that you need to train yourself. It's a training process because disciplined, regimented behaviors, okay, nothing will launch your life further in the right direction than doing that.

SPEAKER_00 43:31

Jerry, I absolutely agree with that. And of course, we're gonna hit that hard here in this next one, I think. But I just want to say on that note, my morning routine, my hour in the morning has been one of the biggest blessings of my life. Not everybody can afford to do it, not everybody can do it. Some people, everyone's got a different day, but I've been able to make my first morning. I get up early. I know you do too. I get up early, but it gives me that time to get my Head straight. And let me tell you something. It's it's it's magic. It is magic what that can do for your day. So I'm also you got to get that positive thing going first thing in the morning. Love it. Love it. Jerry, this is fantastic. And now we're going to lead into this. So strategy number one is lower the bar. You know, in our last podcast, in the last show we did, we were talking about health and wellness, and you were talking about people that should start walking, and you said, look, just walk down to the corner. You know, and let's not worry about 10 miles. You know, if you're just getting started, walk to the corner. That was an example of lowering the bar to get things started. Fantastic. Strategy number two, focus on systems. Boy, there's a lot of people talking about systems these days, and for all the right reasons. Focus on systems, not goals. What do you got on that, Jerry?

SPEAKER_01 44:56

Well, again, it's all about the process. And um, let's just let's just correlate this to um, you know, entrepreneurs and in businesses. If you don't have systems in place, now the systems change, they evolve, they grow, you got to modify, whatever it might be. But if you don't have the systems, you you your chances of failure are going up 90%. It's the same thing in your personal life. You must develop a process to implement these small, the just a couple of little small commitments that I just mentioned. You know, what's the process to that? Okay. So when I when I say the process, you know, okay, we're not gonna hit the snooze alarm, right? Okay, well, what process am I gonna implement so that I don't do that? Maybe I'm gonna have my wife throw uh some cold water on my face. I don't know. Yeah, right. But you know, whatever it might be, or or maybe you put a big sticky note on your alarm on your phone or for whatever you're using. Everybody uses a phone today for their alarm, and and you know, and I did this during bodybuilding. My favorite thing in bodybuilding, I had sticky notes that don't do it. Just put that sticky note right on your phone and and and whatever that that's part of the process. So develop little processes to implement your small disciplines to get started. Yes, and and and as I said, then you can make bigger processes in bigger disciplines and longer disciplines and so forth. But it all does start with some type of process.

SPEAKER_00 46:32

And I like the term routine. I think again, a routine is a system. You know, I mentioned earlier how important that morning hour is for me. That's now part of my routine. It's part of the process. It is a great routine. Now, I need to add some new routines, I need to add on to that. But believe me, that first morning hour for me, and you people can start a routine wherever they think they need to, but get a process, get a habit, get a routine going that helps you here. Number three.

SPEAKER_01 47:03

By the way, well, before we go to number three, just one comment on that. Just want everybody to understand the starting process is by far the hardest part. Once you have some of these little micro wins going. I love it. I love it. Okay, it's it's called the law of accumulation. Yes. Right? Um, or the principle of accumulation. That that the more little wins you get, the more motivation starts to kick in from those actions. So, you know, you're gonna have to uh that that's why discipline's so tough, because when you start anything, it's a hundred percent discipline. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 47:42

Jerry, we could do a whole podcast on little discipline, on little wins, on little micro wins. Because I mean, we both know how important it is. I still remember David Johnson with us uh a couple of months ago talking about little wins. Fantastic, fantastic. Uh this one, this number three, this is really one of my favorites. And I think this goes, I think this goes um, I don't think people take advantage of this one. And this is remove friction. So strategy number three for discipline is remove friction. Okay, so you know, I I dropped my uh I dropped my cheese balls on the floor already, but you know, taking those cheese balls or those potato chips or those Fritos or whatever out of the pantry, that is removing part of the problem and allows me to achieve, allows me to have success. Uh setting getting away from your cell phone if if notifications are an issue for you. Okay. In other words, if your cell phone is always beeping and you've got to check it, that is a distraction that's probably interrupting your progress in what it is you should be doing. Now, we all have our own library of problems and distractions and issues, but let's understand how important designing our environment is to ensure our success. What you got on this, Jerry?

SPEAKER_01 49:15

Yeah, well, um commitment involves action and cost, right? So, so you know, a lot of people think it's just, you know, the discipline of the action. Well, some sometimes there's a cost associated with it. And it could be a financial cost, but I'm you know I'm talking about other costs, you know, things that you have to give up or things you have to change, things that might affect other people. There's a cost associated with it. And um, you know, one of the uh this is an old uh old Zig Ziggler thing, but you you you must be willing to pay the cost to enjoy the benefits. So, you know, you you you you you commit, you pay up front for some benefit later. And that that's the process for that whole thing about, you know, and and if you do that, you can start to remove, you know, all the all the friction and and all those things, but it really comes down to getting those commitments in place.

SPEAKER_00 50:12

Yeah. And then strategy number four is actually an identity shift. You know, this is something that's I think uh again, self-talk and affirmations, but it's the belief in yourself, and it's an important thing. You know, we need to get away from waiting for the motivation. Again, we will we will continue to talk about this for for years, okay? Because that word motivation, it can it can be a it can be a stop for a lot of people. They're waiting for the wrong thing. Take some action, go ahead. You talk on this for us. I know you got good stuff here.

SPEAKER_01 50:45

Well, the identity shift, um, and this is something this is a big, big topic. I talk about um I did in all my companies and and and at every every talk I give. Um, you want to become a person of interest. Okay, and what what does that mean? Okay, is that that means that you are a go-to person, right? Somebody that people can see a change in, right? You want others questioning you, like, hey man, what what what's going on with John, man? He's like, you know, looks better, you know, and and and he's he's get you know, looks like he's buying things, he's making more money, you know, whatever it might be, you know. There's a thousand examples, but become a person of interest where you're raising curiosity from your actions. Like people are questioning you, like, oh, hey, you know, why are you doing this? You know, what's going on with that? You know, you know, or it could be the opposite side of that too. Hey, you know, John didn't see you at Happy Hour Friday. Oh, yeah. Okay. All right, right. So so so that that that that that that might be viewed as is a negative by your by your friends or something, right? But the the the changes that you make in becoming a go-to person, somebody that others can rely on, they can count on. And um, in my book, I talk about my dad related to this. Um, you know, he he was the one in our family that everybody went to, you know. So if you become a person of interest and be someone who's super accountable, um, that'll give you an identity shift that will boost your self-esteem significantly. And believe me, others will notice, and they notice quick.

SPEAKER_00 52:25

No, I'm reminded of change. I'm reminded of our, again, I have to mention David Johnson again, the bodybuilding guy. When he first decided to get into nutrition, uh, he was working, I think he was like working at a moving company or something, moving heavy stuff all day. Decided to get into it and decided one of the things he decided to do was to start eating tuna fish out of the can for lunch.

SPEAKER_01 52:50

Right.

SPEAKER_00 52:51

And so he would like unpack his lunch and he had a little can of tuna fish, and like all of his buddies were like, What the what the heck is what's he doing? You know, Dave, what are you doing with that? Well, that was his start. And so, yeah, people will notice when you are doing things differently. And if you're doing things that are gonna be good for you, they're gonna notice and pay attention. You're right on that. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 53:12

Yeah, yeah. And and and and on those lines, you're just just never cater to a hater. You know, if you're doing something to improve yourself or make changes, and and you know, there's a certain segment of people out there that are not going to be rooting for you, right? So you you need to either eliminate those people, get you know, from your life, you know, disassociate, um, or you know, uh uh put them in a compartment, compartment that it doesn't affect you. But um you should just make sure that you know the negative things that you know come along with making those changes, uh just be prepared for that. It's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_00 53:44

Jerry, have you have have you used never cater to an hate to a hater before? I've never heard that for I love that. I I've never heard that phrase before.

SPEAKER_01 53:55

You know who said that? Who? Uh vanilla ice. My hero. That's who I got.

SPEAKER_00 54:03

That's who I got in from never cater to a hater. Okay, I'm gonna lock that one in. I like it.

SPEAKER_01 54:10

He was talking about social media when he was when he when he said that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 54:13

I love that. Okay. So look, next one is strategy number five is accountability. And this is a big deal. You know, whether it's your friends or your public commitments or a coach, by the way, I'm gonna bring them up again. Let me tell you something here right here. One of the reasons I've never cracked the top on this is because I know you'd come over here and kick my ass.

SPEAKER_01 54:35

There you go.

SPEAKER_00 54:37

And so that accountability with friends and and and peers is really important, you know. Uh what you got for me on accountability.

SPEAKER_01 54:45

Well, let me just um tag on to what you just said right there. You know, associating with yourself that you feel accountable to, right? Like, like what you just said, yeah, is also a big thing. So you got to make sure you're around those people that if you are doing something that's detrimental or out of character or something that's not in line alignment with your allies that you associate with, you know, they're gonna call you out. Yeah. So so so get with those people, right? That that's what you want. You want truth. You want to be around the truth. But uh, but the accountability thing, uh, it kind of goes with everything I just said a minute ago. Um, you know, it it it it's it it's the same thing with the identity shift. Um, but but I will say this, you know, your your life success, okay, when you go when you go through your entire life, will be in direct proportion to the amount of accountability you can endure. Wow. The more accountability you take on, the more exceptional the life you're gonna live.

SPEAKER_00 55:43

Wow. Well, you know, we've said it before, uh, and it's so true. The people you hang with, the five people that are in your immediate circle are probably the biggest determining factor in where you're going, where you're headed, and who you're gonna be. It's important to hang with the right people. I'm glad I'm hanging with you, my man. Glad I'm hanging with you. I'll tell you that.

SPEAKER_01 56:03

Likewise, likewise.

SPEAKER_00 56:05

So, strategy number six is time blocking and structure. This has been a real tough one for me. This blocking out time to do what you need to do, that's a tough one for me. But planning ahead is important. One of the people I spoke to in advance of this session today told me that uh he's a golfer as well. He only plays once a week. He plays every Saturday morning. He's got a six o'clock tea time. He gets up at four that day. The night before, lays out his clothes. He when he gets up that next morning, he doesn't want to have to worry or think about anything. He gets up ready to go. He's out the door. Planning your day, structuring your time, whether that's a good example or not, it's really important if you can do it. I struggle with that. I've got that first morning going, but it almost seems like after that first morning, some days my day my days just get off the track. I mean, they just go rolling crazy. What you got for me on this?

SPEAKER_01 57:08

Well, this falls into um a little bit of a category I call intangibles, right? So, intangibles, what I mean by that is is that as you as you become better at your regimented disciplines and your commitments and your schedule and things like that, you won't even realize it that the unimportant things fall off, right? Because as you're having success with the new stuff and the new disciplines and things that are bettering you and making you feel better about yourself, all of a sudden you'll realize that well, wait a second, I don't even do that negative thing anymore. And it wasn't even intentional because you replaced it if with something that was more important to you. Um, with that said, you know, regimented disciplines um that are uh need to be unbreakable. They need to be unbreakable. So it's very, very important you start with something realistic. You know, again, getting back to the uh, you know, what you said about you know bringing things down to a level, you know, of of of not not shooting for the whole you know match up front because you're just set yourself up for failure. Um so um you know you have to realize up front that the process, you know, is gonna be way harder than you think, and you gotta be mentally prepared for that. You know, I I I I always tell the bodybuilding story, but when my bodybuilding coach said to me, he goes, uh he goes, Jerry, look, he goes, you know, this this is gonna be the hardest thing by far you've ever done. Right. Well, I couldn't conceive of what that meant. I couldn't conceive what that I mean, man, what are you talking about? Man, I've been through some shit. You can't even believe the hard stuff I've done, right? And but I took it to heart and I did try to mentally get myself ready, but even with doing that, it was unimaginably harder than I could ever have pictured, right? So understand that whatever you commit to, and for people that are just starting out, it could be something small. It's gonna be hard. It's supposed to be hard, everything worthwhile in life is hard. I love it. Go, go. Yeah. So so you know, be prepared. Just be prepared. Set, make that commitment, get that process going, and be prepared to commit no matter how hard it gets.

SPEAKER_00 59:42

So we've we've got one more, we've got one more strategy here that we have to hit because it's called the bounce back. It's called the, and this is really critical. I mean, this is so critical because we know that no matter what commitment we make or goal we set or plans we or intentions we have, we're gonna fall off the track. We're gonna miss it, we're gonna skip it. Yep. The ability to bounce back and to recover is one of the most key skills of discipline going. Talk to us a little bit about this. This is your fa this is your big saying right here, buddy. I love this, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:20

Yeah, it's it's it's the first thing I'm gonna say.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:22

Okay, go for it. Do it.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:24

The comeback always exceeds the setback. Indeed. Right. As long as you don't allow yourself to become a victim to the setback.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:34

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:34

Right? So, you know, setbacks are a normal process of growth and even even major events, you know, in and out of your control. Um, you know, there's that old quote, most of you probably heard this before, but you know, in school you're taught a lesson and take a test, and life you're given a test and you learn a lesson. All right. And, you know, for for people that are, you know, are faith-based, you know, it's it's a little bit easier for them to understand this concept because, you know, God essentially arms you with all the ammunition. It's a little bit we talked about earlier, what you're born with, right? You're you have everything. It's already there. Hello, it's already there. You got the ammunition. Are you willing to fire? Right? Are you willing to take the shot? Right? That that's the way we're set up. So, you know, and and literally, you know, I'm not saying this to discourage people, but I'm letting you know how difficult it is. One in a hundred take the shot. Okay. And that's why every time you hear about the one percent of anything, then you're talking about the elite level of people in any specific category. And ultimately, that's what your goal is, to get to be one percent in multiple categories. First of all, let's get one percent in one category. Hopefully, you're one percent in whatever your profession is, hopefully you're one percent as a husband or wife or you know, parent, you know. But if you're not, you know, those are the core things you want to excel to, get to be be one percent. And um, so you know, it's kind of a simple decision. Are you gonna hang out with the sheep or are you gonna sprint like a cheetah? That's it. I mean, and and and and there's no magic to this, you know, Russell. I I people ask me all the time, you know, they they they so overcomplicate it. It's a simple decision. Am I gonna take that shot? I've got the ammunition, but how am I gonna fire that gun? Right? How am I gonna make that happen? How am I gonna overcome the fear and take that risk? And and I don't know what's happened to me over my life, but now my thought process is the biggest risk is not taking the shot. Truth. That's the biggest risk. Truth. Right.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:00

Jerry, that's fantastic. Take the shot. I love that. I love it. That's fantastic. That's great. Jerry, you've got a three-step process you like to talk about sometimes. I think it's negative input, acceptance, and resurgence. What do you got for me on that?

SPEAKER_01 1:03:15

Yeah, well, I mean, that's the uh process, you know, of of you know, getting through any like setbacks that that occur. You know, you're your the the initial response to anything that happens to you is you know, is the negative input. Okay, and and and then you you got to transition that, you know, to okay, either that happened, I screwed it up, um, it was my mistake, I'm accountable, and and you know, process that whole thing and take what you learned and apply it to a resurgence, okay, which is the comeback.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:52

So this is how you handle the resistance or the or the or the fallback or the you know when you haven't been able to do what you want. This is how you handle it.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:00

Yeah, the the the the most important thing about this concept is is the time it takes, right? So again, little minor things that happen to you, you know, most of us have the ability to, you know, okay, yeah, my mistake, I gotta correct it, go fix it, I'm not gonna do that again, and I'm on, I'm on, on the path. The the issue comes in when something really big happens, something really bad happens, you know, a serious financial loss, a divorce, a child that's sick. You know, these types of things, the time that you stay in that, you know, acceptance phase is very important to the trajectory of your life. You have to get through that, you know, that natural process of you know, feeling down, feeling sorry for yourself, you know, crying the blues, whatever it is, and and and get to the bottom and turn that that chart and upward, upward to the right, um, and begin that resurgence as soon as possible. And it's really tough to do, depending on what's going on, right? But if you understand the process and you understand the long-term outcomes and that virtually nothing in life is all-encompassing, took me many years to get that concept. I mean, I literally used to be devastated by stuff. And you know I realize, you know, that no matter what happens, if you look at the positives in your life and what you got in your family and the things that are of true value to you, which are, you know, all the intangibles. Um, there's nothing that is, you know, asset related or you know, things like that that that are can break you. Um, so you have to just, you know, value those things and it helps you limit that time in in that downturn.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:55

Jerry, we're getting close to where I want to wrap up. Let me tell you what I want to. Do here. I'm going to read, I'm going to read these six strategies that we've laid out for working with discipline. And then at the end, I'm going to ask you which I think there's actually seven here. I'm going to ask you which is the most important for you. And now all of these are important, but I just want to get your personal opinion on them. So let me go back and here are the strategies that we've covered for dealing with discipline. Strategy number one was lower the bar. It was a good one. Strategy number two was focus on systems, not just goals, but the systems. Strategy three was remove friction. Get those Cheetos off the counter. Strategy number four was identity shift. Number five was use accountability, your friends, your coaches, your network. Number six, time blocking and structure. And then I'm going to skip over here. Jim, I'm going to say number seven is the bounce back, the ability to bounce back. Of all of these, which to you is the most important?

SPEAKER_01 1:07:16

Yeah, it's a that's a tough question because they're all extremely important. Um, but I I'm gonna I'm gonna go with the first one, lowering the bar. And and the reason is is that that's what keeps people from getting started. And I want you to get started. I want you to take that leap, you know, get get something going, you know, get some momentum going. And, you know, if if you're if your your vision of something is is so far out there and it's six months away or five years away, you're not gonna start. You're just not gonna start. Lower the bar down to something measurable, attainable, executable tomorrow, next day, right? Right now, right? Let's get some of those wins because when you get those little wins, confidence goes up and they multiply. And next thing you know, you're onto the other six things on that list.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:12

Jerry, so good. So, so good. Jerry, listen, what what a session, what a session. I hope, I hope people can track with us on this, follow through this. I I hope we've kept in a in a logical sequence here for people to follow because there's been some fabulous material in here. This is such an important factor for everybody to pay attention to. I'm so grateful for every word you've contributed to us on this fantastic stuff. Again, I want to I want to remember remind people if you don't already have this, get it. It's a fantastic book. You can open it up from any page and find fabulous material. So good. Jerry, thank you again for today. Can't wait till we do this again. So uh thank you so much. Good to see you. Friends, like us, subscribe. You know all the stuff. Like us, subscribe, share, do it. We appreciate hearing from you. If you've got some experiences with discipline you'd like to share with us, put them in the comments of the YouTube video or send them to us directly. We'll put some notes in the show. Jerry, so good to see you.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:23

Okay, I gotta add one thing at the end. So all right, guys, you know, wonderful session today. You know, great to have everybody out, you know, and I hope everybody gets some benefit from this. But here's another little um saying that I have written down that um I think you should write down and and you know, put it somewhere where you're gonna look at it every day. And it goes like this focus builds discipline, discipline creates habits, habits drive consistency, and consistency unleashes success. That's the process, right? Put it down somewhere, look at it, and um, you know, as I said, you know, always get stuff reminders that you see daily. Um I I you know, I've been doing this for so many years, and nothing changes. I got it next to my bed at night. I have little notes in my car, I have down in my office, I have little sticky notes in places of key things I want to, you know, input in my mind that that are important factors for you know growth and expansion of my uh my um self-learning. So um, you know, just get started with it. And again, pick one or two. You know, you don't need 10 or 20. Pick one or two great quotes that you love, might not be any of mine. You know, go find your own and uh and and and and memorize them. You know, that that that thought process that gets embedded in your head will replace those negative thoughts.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:48

Wonderful words. I want to thank you again for a fabulous session, and I hope that people will take all of this to heart and see some improvement in their discipline in the days and the months and the years to come. Thank you so much, everybody, for paying attention to us today. Jerry, thank you. I can't wait to talk to you again. Yep.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:06

See ya.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:07

All right, buddy. Goodbye.