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Further Forward
Honest conversations on the art of becoming.
Through solo reflections and conversations with soulful, sharp, and courageous guests, Ashley creates room for the stories that don’t always get told—the pivots, the struggles, the magic, and the mess. Part spiritual, part practical, always human—Further Forward is a space for women invested in their becoming, who know growth is both messy and worth embracing.
Further Forward
Remembering Ourselves with Yeradmi Gomes
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If “healing” feels like a hashtag and a shopping list, this episode is a reset. Yera and Ashley drag wellness back into real life with postpartum realities and nervous systems that need gentleness. We talk about mother-first care, boundaries that actually stick, and why the cheapest rituals (water, sleep, sunlight) are the ones we all avoid. No gurus. No gold stars. Just two women telling the truth about living in a body and in community, right now.
In this episode:
- Healing as “organizing the parts” of self; we are each other’s mirrors
- Postpartum realities, support gaps, and doula work as service
- Somatic experiencing and IFS (“no bad parts”)- why change must be gentle
- The “empty boat” story: releasing assumed intent + choosing peace
- Real-life over performative wellness: connection, community, and being held
- Micro-practices: drink water, get sunlight, honest rest, name one thing you’re grateful for
Bio:
Yera brings a wealth of experience to her work, offering integrative and compassionate care. Dedicated to this path for much of her life, she blends knowledge and intuition to create supportive spaces for healing and connection. Her practice is informed by both formal training and lived experience, allowing her to meet each person with depth, empathy, and presence.
Through a trauma-informed and integrative approach, Yera offers a variety of ways to explore emotional, energetic, mental, and physical well-being. Her work draws from breathing, restorative, and somatic practices to support clients in reconnecting with themselves and cultivating a sense of peace. Whether in one-on-one sessions or group settings, she creates opportunities for individuals to slow down, restore, and listen deeply to their bodies' innate wisdom.
In addition to her healing arts practice, Yera is a full-spectrum birth worker, an Integrated Doula, which reflects her unique, holistic approach to supporting families through fertility, pregnancy, birth, and the tender postpartum phase. Her approach to birth work blends emotional and physical support while honoring the uniqueness of each family’s needs. With warmth and deep respect for parenthood, she creates a space where families can feel supported, empowered, and cared for.
At the heart of Yera’s offerings is a belief in the body’s innate capacity to heal and the integration that occurs when people are truly seen and supported. Whether she is guiding an individual through a restorative practice or nurturing a family during birth and postpartum, Yera’s work is rooted in connection, care, and deep reverence for life.
Stay connected with Yera and learn more at Yeradmi.com
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Hi. Hi. I'm just being with you for a moment in this. We've hit record. Yeah, it was nice for being here. Yeah, of course. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I... I don't think that any introduction I could do would do you any justice.
SPEAKER_01:So
SPEAKER_02:what would you want people to know about you? Hi, hello.
SPEAKER_00:Well, my name is Geradmi and I go by Jera. I am a Afro-Latina woman of Taino descent, Caribbean descent. And I am someone who is very passionate about healing in all the ways. Yeah, personally, collectively, and community. Yeah, my whole thing is healing through connection. Why? Of
SPEAKER_02:all of the things that you could do, right? What... What? Well, no, hold on. I want to ask. Yes, I want to know why, but I think maybe the deeper question is, it feels like, especially if you're on social media, they're like, everybody's interested in healing and everybody's like, you know, considering themselves an expert on diagnosing and, and talking about family and trauma. and triggers and glimmers and like we hear all of this language and we watch people talk about healing and healing practices and so I guess maybe the deeper question is not why but what does that mean for you or what does that look like for real for real because I know that you embody this work fully
SPEAKER_00:thank you Ashley that really means a lot coming from you I always say that we are each other's mirrors. And whenever another person, and usually it's women, that will say a lot of words, I always will reflect back that the only way that you're able to see that within myself is because it exists within you. And that was a teaching that I received very early on in my discovery of... different ways of associating or being moving through the world. And my teacher, and I'm going to bring her in, Bethany Canton back then, when I was at Exhale, when I met Amy Lydon, actually, many moons ago. And I was like, what are you doing? I don't understand what is happening within me. And what, what are you doing? And she was like, honey, but in this very, you already know, in this very, like at the end of a class kind of vibe, like, the only reason that you're able to feel and connect and see me is because all of what you're describing is within yourself. And that just, like my heart, my mind, my body, I feel it right now. I feel a lot of tingles as I say that. It's like a, it's a knowing, it's a deep, deep reflection. And to answer your question for me, healing is, is like an organization of all the parts of who we are in this body that we have, this one body that we are given. And being able to understand that there are, that so many things coexist as a human being, right? We are multifaceted. And yes, we are out here in this planet, right? Like on this planet doing the thing we're mothering, we're working, we're just being. And there is a greater collect, like there's a greater purpose, right? Like it's not just, we're not just doing this thing by ourselves, right? And so in order to coexist within ourselves and all the parts of who we are and with everyone else, because everything in life is a relationship, right? How can I be at peace within everything that is coexisting?
SPEAKER_01:Wow.
UNKNOWN:Wow.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. That's really... It's really, well, it's profound because it's sometimes difficult to find peace within when you're coexisting because you have no control over anything that's happening outside of yourself, right? And I saw something online that was, have you heard of, it's called the empty boat mindset? Hmm,
SPEAKER_00:maybe. Is it like a boat in water and it's like
SPEAKER_02:all blue and dark? No, there were no colors. There were no colors. But I do want to know what you're talking about. Oh no. It was like, okay. So I hope I get the story right because I, I saved it, but I haven't talked about it yet, but this monk is meditating in a boat on the water and another boat hits his boat. And before he even opens his eyes, he's kind of like, I can't believe somebody would run into my boat. Can't they see that I'm here meditating? Right. So then he opens his eyes and he sees that nobody's in the boat. It was a boat that got loose from the dock and floated towards him and bumped into him. And he realized, well, I might as well not be angry because you can't be angry at like this empty boat. And the whole thing was kind of like, that's... it's, we, we assume that the things that happen maybe to us have negative intent behind them, that somebody is always messing with us, that somebody exists just to annoy us or take us off our game or whatever. But a lot of times it's just like, it's an empty boat. Like it just happens and you are supposed to be sort of centering your and like kind of learning how to let that shit go and I'm I'm reading this thing and I'm cracking up because I am not the person who lets it go I'm the person who's like you did this on purpose because you hate me and now I hate you back and so what you said resonates because that is I think like part of what I'm working on or part of my healing is this practice of coming back to I think my true nature my true self which is joy which is love which is peace And somehow along the way, I unlearned that that is my true nature, right?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. There's this process of remembering, which is another aspect of healing. And no, go, go. So we're both mothers to young boys and I can't believe they haven't met yet, which is like, and we have seen the process of like the conceiving, the, the, the, growing the birthing the and then the evolution of these pure beings like the absolute yeah of I feel it everywhere in my body right like they are children infants are the most connected to the divine that we have as human beings to witness and and for those of us that are choosing to mother and to do this and to bring them forward and to bring them here to this, what's happening right now in this specific moment, and to see what all of the values and the qualities that you just described, that that's their essence. And now it's like, oh yeah, everything that happens from then on out, it's just all this like, I'm going to put myself in this box and in this one and in this one and this is how I'm going to feel safe in this world and this is how because if I say a few or like don't talk to me when you that empty boat is around me I'm ready I'm ready to you know do the thing and that over and over and over again causes so much separation and in turn suffering
SPEAKER_01:right
SPEAKER_00:and disconnection
SPEAKER_02:And you do notice it through your children. You know, it is like a, like you said, a mirror. It's a mirror that no adult has been able to give me thus far, right? But also the responsibility of having the self-awareness of knowing, right? these, these things that I'm hoping to heal within myself and just being aware of what I'm passing on and, and knowing that it's, it's not going to be perfect. Right. Right. Like, but also knowing that my relationship with Zion and my relationship with myself is going to color how he respects himself, how he respects women, like the kinds of partners he looks for like all kinds of things so there's so many things swirling for me when I when I look at him and when I look at you know who I am in the world in relation to him that is it's a good motivating factor if I could call it that I don't know if I should be using it as motivation but it but I feel like bitch, you got to keep going. Like you cannot, you cannot let this go. Yeah. Where does your doula work fit in with all of this, with healing, with sabbatic practices? What does that look like?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Thank you for asking. I, um, I trust in the, in the way that for each of us and in my life experience, how, uh, following the nudges throughout my early adulthood and how I nannied forever for, you know, more than I have, like, I don't even know, 20 years in my bag of, of nannying and being with all kinds of families, you know, that could afford, right. Like, uh, a full-time well-paid person. care for their humans and um so and just the the dedication this one specific family that i i just i got to see such a beautiful part of their um parenting and also for the children and how they just uh a lot of my inspiration as a mother is because of this particular family and this mother and um so i had all of that experience and then the healing work was very much like oh yeah this is like like, ride or die for me. I'm either going to, like, learn this work or I don't know how I'm going to exist and be a human. So it was kind of like it was just this was very clear. And so once I gave birth at the very beginning of the pandemic, the very beginning, I was like, oh, yeah, this is also life or death. And very much so, like, a very clear knowing. I had a very... challenging experience postpartum and this is probably what we wanted to come through we were yeah very challenging experience at around the four month mark and um i didn't have people around me that knew how to emotionally attune to what i was experiencing as a new mother Yeah. And it caused a lot of suffering.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. How did you move forward?
SPEAKER_00:what you mentioned earlier where it was like oh game fucking on kind of vibe like oh okay so if I am going to grow and evolve and move forward from this experience my entire life has to change again again For the whoever, however many times it has changed already. Yeah. And now I have a human that I love more than myself at that time, right? That I am here to protect. And when Mama Jada arrived, I was like, bet. Yeah. And I think, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I don't want to, I don't want to pass how hard that had to be, right? Like we can say five years later. I was like game on, right? But like, like I have full body chills because picking yourself up out of the depths, it's especially during that time when you're, when everything is so out of control and your hormones and this and that, like, it's literally, it's, we talk about like a lot of, I don't know, sort of, I guess, disruptions to mental health is like things that are happening in the brain. But like when you're postpartum, it's your brain, it's your body. Then there's a pandemic where there's just things you just don't even have access to, even if you wanted them. And so like to pull yourself up through that is... not
SPEAKER_00:yeah yeah yeah and now i'm here for these people these women these birthing people that are just um yeah are in need of someone that knows and recognizes and and that can connect with this very simple idea that simple, maybe not easy, right? Because we are seeing what's happening, right? that whatever the mother needs during this time is what the mother needs, right? Amen. Amen. How are the children going to be well if the mother is not well? And that creates, that's a whole podcast. It's a whole episode. It's a whole PhD, actually, of... Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Hello? Mm-hmm. Mm hmm. And I will say here that I am here for the children, 1,000, 1 million percent. And all the families know this. And my priority is mother. Because when we are pregnant and we're carrying and we're moving through the process, how are you? How are you feeling? All the things every day. And then baby's here and it's like, baby, baby. And what is that? And what is baby? Oh my God. So cute. And the smells and the clothes and the, the, the, all the, the, the lists of the things that we ask for and buy and celebrate and all this stuff. And then mom is over here struggling, most likely in silence. Thing is okay. The house is going to be perfect. The food, the hello. Yeah. It's not perfect. This is a time. where everything has shifted. And one thing I always also mention is that the greatest, and we've seen this in so many ways online, the greatest drop hormonally that a human being can ever experience is after childbirth. And yet the support is so scarce. So what do we think is going to happen? What are we seeing that is happening? So, yeah, this is like big, deep for me, like real, real ancestral, like deep calling. You know, I know I can't do it alone kind of kind of calling. It's also connected because if I didn't have the training that I've had for, I always say for 30 seven years but for 15 solid like really in it exploration of myself right and the organization of everything that had that transpired a lot of mess a lot of trauma a lot of uncertainty and the whole part of not being able to control and then it was like full circle moment I had to endure that and move through it and then it was like my worlds emerged in such a beautiful way because then when I arrive into these spaces at the hospital and these, and people's homes, it's just, it's, I'm bringing all that forward and it's felt and, you know, so it's, I'm really grateful that I get to serve in this way.
SPEAKER_02:Right. It is service. 100%. Thank you so much. I guess the right word is maybe heal. How do we heal or how do we look at integrating the parts? Or I don't want to, I don't want to put too many boundaries around the question, but I, I think you kind of know where I'm getting at. Like, how do you navigate that?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. And this is where it can be a little messy and where we're going to be given and shown like what, what to it's like, what is, what is the priority in the moment? Right. Because if there's so many things we, we, and for me, I understand that everything is connected. And so where's the, where's the disconnection happening in your life? Where do you feel the most disconnected? Is it when you have a... a disagreement with someone you love and you're not able to vocalize it and you numb in a certain way and you avoid it? Is it when you feel rejected at work, with friends or in any kind of capacity? Is it sleep? Are you not sleeping? Are you able to digest your food well? Like there's so many signs, right? Our bodies are continuously sharing and giving us all these different cues of like the state that we are in. And yes, it is about mental health for sure. And that is deeply connected to and all the ways to what the body is experiencing and that our outer world I know this is a you know can go a lot of ways but our the way that we are moving through our experience is going to show us like where is it that I need to organize some shit
SPEAKER_02:yeah That's what's so hard, I think, not... I think I've... Do I want to say this? So when I was doing a lot more corporate workshops around allyship, specifically, people were like, what do I do? What do I do? Give me the action steps, right? And... Like, they're, it's, it's like, like, I would give them things to think about anything from, you know, you can, you can think about how it is you're voting, you can think about how it is you're spending your money, where you're spending your money, you can think about, you know, the conversations when you're with your family at Thanksgiving, like disrupting things that are harmful or whatever. And they'd be like, no, no, really, like, what are the action steps? And And it's like, damn it, I just told you, right? Like people think, going back to your original point, that there's like something that they don't have. It's like you already have the tools inside of you. You already know the tools. Like you just want something different because the actual answer might be too difficult or it's something that you don't want to face or it's something, but like, you know, right? Like if you... i'm gonna go with sleep because this is something that like i had to get over my bullshit if you are complaining about not sleeping but you're on your phone you're watching tv you're eating in bed you're eating right before bed you're drinking too much wine before bed you're getting into fights with whatever like of course you're not fucking sleeping
SPEAKER_00:i'm laughing but it feels obvious right like feels obvious work and that's the difficult part because yeah exactly what has felt familial and and safe yeah right comfort and what we know and what has helped us in parts where in different times of our lives where we didn't have like the capacity to even look at what was disorganized right like it's like yes i am going to turn to all the things you just said right because absolutely that's the only way I'm going to be out here doing this and coexisting exactly what is keeping me safe and so after the conditions right change and that you're in a space where you can and you're able to and which I think probably a lot of people that are listening to this and tuning into this are most likely at a place where like there's a little bit more capacity and space to kind of start to unwind and look at what's what's really here and it's not easy because it's easier said than done. Oh yeah. Follow these 10 steps. And then you, you, Oh, check my, it's like, that's a whole other thing is like, Oh, I'm just going to do this list. And then whatever is a deep listening, right? Because individually my experience and what I've moved through and how my body is showing me what I need to look at. Right. And I experience and the people around me and the, relationships and the situations that i'm in are showing me if everything is a mirror if everything is here to support this evolution that is right like these trees this the ecosystem it just is right there's like a knowing to that right in the same way we are we are an extension of that and the further away we are from that and all the ways that we adapt then it's step by step because there's you know we have to build in in somatic experiencing it's like you know there's like a titration process where you can't do too much at once because then then everything is just gonna you know and it might mean that like that's what needs to happen in my case I've had many real serious breakdowns and hospitalizations even and big big things that I it was so much at once and because no one around me understood what i have moved through because either i it wasn't shared as a child it wasn't expressed i didn't even remember until a certain point when i started exploring my body and and moving through world the world and coming to yoga and movement and i didn't get that as a child and so as all these parts of me are like the remembering yeah it's a huge sometimes there's a huge fucking explosion
SPEAKER_01:right
SPEAKER_00:and shit can get really serious so this this work is it is important and i think something to know during this time when there's so many experts on the internet The real work of our, like the real work of creating this connection within ourselves and within our lives, it happens in real time, in the flesh, like, you know, in outside, in the human connection, in the hugs, in the crying, in the feeling. It doesn't happen here. This is all like, what is it, right? Like we're here, it's absolutely an amazing tool and we already know we do this and there's a loop happening mentally to it and and there's all this um there's all these different reactions that are happening so we're we're in this loop of of being connected to the internet and thinking that we're like receiving but we really aren't right like yes of course we're gonna find love the things that we love i i love laughing on tiktok for you know a while and being like oh my god you know and just the the Emotions that we find on there, it absolutely is a tool. And it's in the real, in real life that it needs to happen and the communities and the people that are around you and the people you're choosing to be around, to share, to talk, to connect with. It's the connection piece.
SPEAKER_01:Right, right.
SPEAKER_02:This is all
SPEAKER_00:extra. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I think that's where you learn too. Like, this is my big, thing right now or one of my big things right now is is you know, you're, you're never alone, right? Like your story is, is not unique. You know what I mean? And, and, and it's like unique, but it's not unique, right? There's, there's somebody else and I encounter this all the time, somebody else who's experienced what I've experienced in some way. Right. And, um, And so like, but if, but if I don't allow myself to open up and talk to people and be in real life with people and stuff, then I never know that. And then I continue to, you know, it just like, it's, it's, it's like a false comfort. And, and I can sit in, I can sit in shame and I can sit in this, like, you know like I'm the only one who has gone through this nobody understands me nobody knows I'm going through but that's not true it's never true and you know like yeah I just agree we have to be relational and also sometimes like I also don't want to be because I'm too fucking relational
SPEAKER_00:you know like this is my struggle yes well a push pull Yeah. And the, the, the self-study is, is just as important because the not being able to be alone and have a good time. I love myself a good time on myself. Let me speak on it. Okay. Because I don't understand. Yes, I understand, but I, you know, it's just my way of like expressing.
UNKNOWN:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:the way I love being just out here and doing what I do. Are you kidding me? There's like not enough hours in the day. And then the joy that comes from it because it's also interconnected. And the learning ourselves, there's just this like, oh yeah, I'm not alone. And I have a whole manifesto and I think it's either number one or what number? don't know but it's we are never alone
SPEAKER_02:you're never alone
SPEAKER_00:we haven't even touched upon the what's you know just all the resources that we have available to us right resources that don't require money that don't truly like that are just here for us the remembering piece and then it's like wow i get to explore i get to write i get to i get to hug a tree i get to put my feet in the soil. Like I get to eat this amazing food that from these local farms, like what a gift. And then gratitude is such a huge part of, of, of the connection piece of the healing part.
SPEAKER_01:There's
SPEAKER_00:no matter what is happening. Gratitude is just, it has to be at top, top in the top values because otherwise what are we doing? Cause we can we can all be suffering all day every day and i just know that we were not meant to like put on this planet at the specific time to be out here suffering right at every hour of the day right so and suffering can mean you know pain it can mean a lot of different things that are coming up right that don't feel in alignment with who we are right and the joy that we're able to experience. And that's the thing. Once we're able to give ourselves the space and the resources and the time, what it is that we need when we need it in different ways, it's going to be different, different seasons of our lives and where we live, all the things. And that we create space to feel what is present in this moment. And in the next moment, right, we're going to do other things. And then when we come back to like, I really need to tend to my heart, to what's here and process and cry and feel and emote, then I have so much more within myself to be with the joy and connect with amazing people like the one in front of me right now. Like I am, I kiss myself all the time. I literally kiss myself all the time. One of my friends kisses her shoulders. We are doing the damn thing. Not perfectly, not the point. My life is not, no, it's just, it's not, the point is not perfection. The point is to feel what we're feeling and to also be able to be steady within ourselves, to feel connected to ourselves and one another. And then whatever the mess whatever the dharma the the passion the creativity the the the the things that we need to do to to move the needle a little bit forward right it keeps going back to the name of this freaking podcast then that's where we're called to be but we can't go there if we're not tending to hello our home it's just like and our i can keep going about it yeah same thing in many different ways but it's like how all the things that we already know
SPEAKER_02:You have to trust that you're going to be okay. to cry to emote to fully feel and if you can't fully feel grief or sadness you're you definitely can't fully feel joy right so so just kind of just in this middle place of not fully being able to access all that you're able to access which is such a shame given how short our lives actually are even when they're long they're short and you don't even know if you're going to get to the long part you might not girl
SPEAKER_00:it has felt long for me and many times I am so excited to be an elder like when I tell you aging it's like a whole thing that I want to share because I am obsessed I am not obsessed but I just am so in awe of that I get to age and yes comes with a lot of suffering right because now it's like our parents are dying and people in our lives and we're going to see that more and more and just everything that comes with aging but also and like it just there's so much here i'm so glad i get to be this version of myself now you know what i'm saying and like i couldn't be here and and who i am now in my 20 year old self or there was no way i was so long i was just like what is happening right yeah and we are we all come to this at different times right like one thing i will say like one's at a time right like if this feels very exciting for you or like really far away or really like that's not I don't know whatever the thing is coming up for you right now just it's one one pause at a time right and then like how do we just the next step like what is that is it to drink a glass of water right like water for me I don't know where I am I'm gonna get thankfully which is a humongous privilege to have access to clean water because without it we don't survive teacher Allison Sinatra is always speaking about the water and just that one small reminder can shift in your entire day yeah and if water is the one resource you have today then water is the one resource you have today period Cause that in and of itself is a huge blessing and gift. Right. Yeah. And then it's like, okay, I can drink a glass of water. Maybe I need a shower and like magnesium and like some salt and whatever, maybe, or like, you know, a bath. Right. Like, or maybe I just have access to the shower or maybe it's, it's, there's so many things, right. We know the list. We know the things that we can sunlight, you know, the, the sleeping and the eating well. Right. Of course.
UNKNOWN:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Just at the desk, at the, wherever you're at is, is just like, how am I even just sitting right now? How am I, you know, what's happening? Hi. Hello. Thank you. I don't know. A moment in the mirror. Like you're amazing. You're here today. It can be that small. You know what I'm saying? But, but is it small? Right. But it's not right. Yeah. It's not. Yeah. And in the beginning when I was given, I did 6,000 million cleanses because Cause I was like, I'm a, you know, that was my way. Okay. Not, not, not anybody else's my way. It could be a lot of people's, but my way, one of the things I, I, I, you know, I signed up for so much stuff and like, I could talk more about the story, whatever, but there was one challenge I had from a teacher, a mentor at the time, many, many years ago. And it was like, what is it like for you to look in the mirror and tell yourself that you love yourself every day? Look at the breath. Yeah. Nice breath. Yeah. So yeah. Cause again, it starts here and then, and then we can expand from there. And it's a continuous thing where we're going through seasons, just like nature. Right. We're like, Ooh. And then we're like, Ooh. And it's like, ah, you know, it's just sees different seasons and different seasons require different Parts of us.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Such a good, just such a. It's just so grounding to be in a wellness-centered conversation where you do not have to buy a product to fix you. You do not have to spend lots of money or even necessarily lots of time, right? whatever that's going to lower your cortisol. You do not need to, like whatever it is.
SPEAKER_00:It's not going to do shit for you if you can't sleep at night. Cause that is not going to actually get to the root cause.
SPEAKER_02:Exactly. Exactly.
SPEAKER_00:There's, there's something that I, um, I wanted to share before, you know, cause I know we're, we're coming up. I literally was like message of the day. And I just, right before we came on and I just want to, it's, I had a feeling of course that it was going to be perfect. And so it says everything is connected. As Einstein urges, we must discard the story of separation, in quotes, and adopt the quote-unquote story of interbeing. We need systems thinking leaders who can remind everyone that we're all in this together. I often ask clients to have their polarized parts come together to talk directly to one another. The first question I have the client ask, each part is whether they have anything in common. Each part is often shocked to learn that they share share the desire to keep the person safe, but their ideas about how to do that are totally different. With the realization that they are interconnected, they become committed to working together better for the well-being of the larger system, the client they both inhabit. Likewise, helping people and families, companies, countries, and internationally realize their interconnectedness brings forth a capital S self at each of those levels, And the capital S self always brings healing. Meadows reminds us of how we are all interconnected. No part of the human race is separate either from other human beings or from the global ecosystem. If the planet's climate collapses, everyone will suffer, even the rich. If the workers in a company are overstressed, the company will fail and the owners will go bankrupt if you are dominated by your brain and neglect the rest of your body you will get sick and your brain will go down with the ship having a huge poor population either drains most of the country's resources or creates violent social upheaval if you exile your vulnerable parts they will destroy you yeah Yeah. And I know it sounds like a lot. I'm just going to wrap up here. But making the paradigm shift doesn't actually require huge sacrifices or suffering. It can be painful to retrieve parts of yourself that you left in the dust, but the effort is more than worth it. Here's just a taste of what you have to gain. More love for yourself and others. More access to your inner joy and delight, as well as to your rich sadness and grief. And more meaningful habits and activities with a sense of fulfilling vision So big breath.
SPEAKER_02:Wow.
SPEAKER_00:What is that from? This is a no bad parts. Richard Schwartz. Yeah.
UNKNOWN:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Is that like an IFS? Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, it's very interconnected to somatic experiencing. I mean, it's all related. So wow. And this was actually, you know, who put me on to this, a patient of mine, I, I lead groups as part of the integrative therapy team at a hospital it's a treatment center for people with eating disorders and one of my patients in the like maybe spring of this year had this book and I was like oh yeah that's the I've been wanting to read that and I and I yeah so they ordered it for me and yeah anywho so many resources thank
SPEAKER_02:you do you have a final something that you would want to leave with our listeners.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I this shifting gears right now into the fall very soon and just whatever season you are in in your life as you're tuning into this. There's so much that I want to say and nothing at all. the part of us that is wanting the lists and the the scrolling for hours and the that is curious like that part of us is is is there for a reason and it's an invitation and there's there's no wrong way of of doing this right if you're tuning into a conversation like this like you're on your path you're never not on your path and divine timing is divine timing and The world wasn't created in a day, as my grandfather would always say, right? And so, as he would always say, forward, literally.
SPEAKER_02:That, that, that, that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you.
SPEAKER_02:That's going to stay with me all day and beyond and beyond.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. You're doing something with this. Let me tell you. Yeah. I'm really proud of you.
SPEAKER_02:Congratulations. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you for coming in and sharing with me. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Thank you.