Episode 27: Haunted America: Midwestern States Pt. 2

Join us as we continue to explore hauntings in the Midwestern states. Heather will also share her trip to Tennessee. Have a haunted experience or story to share? Send us an email to readytoconnectpodacst@gmail.com or reach out to us through our social media. Consider becoming a supporter through Patreon and get access to bonus content. Get Ready to Connect! 

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Welcome back, everybody, to Ready to Connect. I'm Lisa. I'm Heather.

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And I'm Ryan.

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And we're so excited to continue a haunted America series today into the Midwestern states, but and the bonus state of Tennessee because Heather is back from her trip from Tennessee and she can report a little bit about what she found down there with some of her free time that she was able to get. And but before we begin, love to know what you guys have been up to. Ryan, you want to share a little bit about anything that's been interesting for you of late?

SPEAKER_02 0:51

Sure. Yeah. I thought the weekend was gonna be kind of quiet with some cleaning, but then I had an unexpected visitor at my back door. So um basically Bigfoot. Was it Bigfoot? I wish. That would have been way more interesting, but yeah, no, it wasn't Bigfoot. But basically I went grocery shopping, uh, came home, put stuff away, then I I looked back out towards um our back door is you can see it from the kitchen area, and um I saw a a big hawk just right at the bottom of of our deck stairs, and at first I was like, wow, what bird is this? Because I haven't seen one up close like that. Um so then I slowly walked towards the back door with my phone trying to take a photo of the dog staring at me, like, what are you doing? So but I got I got some good photos. Um but basically the long story short, the hawk decided to bring its meal to my back door and ate it there. So, but the funny part of it is is that just the other day I was saying out loud, I was like, wow, I haven't seen a feather recently, because I usually see feathers as like a sign, you know. Yeah, like, oh, I'm on the right path. Same thing like when I see a a penny or a quarter, and um or the number three, and but then yeah, the hawk came and brought all the feathers, so because its meal was another break. So nice pile of feathers. Now there's a pile of feathers, yes.

SPEAKER_05 2:22

That's that's a really big message, then, isn't it?

SPEAKER_02 2:24

It really is. I was like, I don't know what this message is. I guess I'm on the right path. Everything's gonna be fine. So yeah.

SPEAKER_05 2:33

Were you able to figure out what kind of hawk?

SPEAKER_02 2:36

Um, you know, that's a good question. I think to be quite honest, I think it might be one of those uh red tail hawks. Yeah, there's a lot of them, right?

SPEAKER_01 2:43

This is like a deep auburn color with white spot kind of white filtering through the feathers. The red tail hawks tend to have that um ginger color to them. Yeah, yeah, I think it might have been one of those. So it's mating season, so definitely there's quite a few red tail hawks behind the house, I think.

SPEAKER_05 3:03

That yeah, yeah.

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But yeah, I'm I mean, to be quiet, like I feel bad for the bird that it ate, but also I'm like, well, I'm glad it didn't just like randomly come to my feeder and like take one of the birds from that because that would have been worse. So at least at least, you know, got the message of all the feathers, uh pile at the bottom of the stairs. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so yeah, that was quite an adventure. I guess so. I guess so, huh? Wow. Well, what about you, Lisa?

SPEAKER_05 3:37

Um, actually it was an interesting weekend, what I thought was just gonna be kind of like uh quiet. Um but it turned out to be busy, but in a nice way. I mean, um I hadn't seen my friend Karen in a while, and we had gotten together Friday, but it turned into sort of an impromptu night away. Um we ended up going into Amherst up by Northampton. Um, and we ended up just spending the night in an inn there and then coming back. We did a lot of thrifting. We like to thrift when we're together, uh, checking out different stores, you know, around North Haven and things like that. Um but we came back uh Saturday early. She had something she had to attend. Um, and then Sunday I met up with my youngest son who's getting married in September, some wedding things attend to. And my brother came out with um his daughter to give, you know, exchange give to me, uh drop off to me. So she's staying um with me for the week. She wanted to help out babysitting uh my grandson and stuff like that. You know, she's older, she's 15. Um, but so it was like a lot of things happening all at once that I didn't really um initially plan it to be that that way. I mean, I but it was wonderful. It was actually a wonderful weekend. Um, yeah, you know, wonderful weekend.

SPEAKER_02 5:02

That's awesome.

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What about you, Heather?

SPEAKER_01 5:05

Your weekend had an amazing weekend, amazing weekend and 85 degree weather and no snow, and all the dogwoods and daffodils and tulips are sprouting down in Clarksville, Tennessee. So it's quite quite wonderful. And lots of exploring, lots of adventuring.

SPEAKER_05 5:27

Nice, yeah, nice.

SPEAKER_01 5:30

Okay, yeah, all right stories to give you guys once it's my turn.

SPEAKER_05 5:37

All right, well, then let's get right into our haunted America series, and we're gonna start with the state, the great state of Minnesota. Ryan, take it away.

SPEAKER_02 5:45

Yeah, so I found a couple uh lo well, several locations, three locations to be exact, um, that are that have some spirits residing in them, um potentially. So the first one I found is the Palmer House Hotel in Sock Center, Minnesota. Uh Socks? I think Sock. S-A-U-K.

SPEAKER_05 6:09

How do you pronounce that? Okay. S-A-U- Yeah, SOC. Yeah. I thought maybe it was sock, like, you know, on your feet, like wearing socks?

SPEAKER_02 6:16

No. That would be interesting. Sock Center. It sounds like uh you're gonna go buy some socks at the store. That'd be a great store name. Anyway, so so this place uh is it's considered um a haunted hotel. Uh it was built in 1901. Um and it sits on the site of an even older hotel that was burned down in the uh in 1900. So that was pretty interesting. Um one of the spirits that uh is one of the most talked about spirits is a man named Raymond. And uh he is and so they're saying that this place may have been a brothel, and so Raymond actually ran the brothel out of the hotel in the early 1900s. He was uh quite controlling. Um they're saying possibly abusive. Um and yeah, they're not sure if he harmed anyone, so who knows. But they say um if you see a dark male shadow figure appearing in the hallways, guests feeling like the sudden anger or aggression, they're thinking that that's his energy. Um they often report that I found this interesting that they often report that activity becomes more intense when you're discussing him or the brothel history. Like that's when I guess. Oh wow. Yeah. So I found that I found that fascinating. I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 7:47

It becomes more intense, like he doesn't want anyone to dirty his reputation, or maybe or perhaps. Or maybe he's trying to keep a secret, or yeah, interesting.

SPEAKER_02 7:58

It it wouldn't surprise me, yeah. That that yeah. So so that's one spirit there. Um another spirit there, her name is Lucy, she's in room number 17. Um, she is believed to have been one of the women who worked under Raymond. Um basically she's they think that her energy is connected to room number 17. It's actually the most active room in the building as well. Um, but uh experiences linked to Lucy include you can hear a woman's voice whispering, the smell of perfume appearing suddenly. Um guests sometimes feel like someone sitting on the bed or objects moving on their own. Um and then they're saying that some investors believe that Lucy uh may be more like a br of a protective energy, that like maybe she's trying to warn visitors about Raymond too. So I don't know. I found that interesting. Um Yeah. Then there's also another spirit called the Bride. So a woman who is reported wearing a white wedding dress. Uh she appears in mirrors or hallways briefly, um near the staircases.

SPEAKER_05 9:09

Um would she officially then be a lady in white?

SPEAKER_02 9:14

I suppose. Yeah, white wedding dress. There you go. Yeah, lady in white. Yep. There's there's some uh spirits of of children as well. Um, so you can hear them laughing, running footsteps, you can uh hear like a ball bouncing down the hallway. Um what I found most fascinating though, and I was curious if either of you have experienced something like this, so some people have also reported seeing small handprints appearing on mirrors. Have have either of you seen something like that? Oh, Heather, you have? Okay.

SPEAKER_01 9:48

I have. We we were we were when I was looking for um a place to buy a house back in the day, uh a girlfriend of mine had purchased one of the houses that I actually liked and quickly realized that maybe this house was haunted and she was wishing I bought the house instead of her. Um but we wanted to, we we did a test because she kept she kept coming to me and saying, Oh my god, you know, I just I hear laughter, I hear footsteps, and they're not like big thudding footsteps. They're sound very light and airy. And I was like, all right, well, we can do a test for that. So we went, it was a long hallway in the home. So we put flour down, like cooking, you know, baking flour down in the hallway. And I said, just ask them to come for the highest good. And you know, let's see if we can capture them. And when she woke up in the morning, I'll I'll I'll try to see if I can contact her. It might not be possible at this point, but we actually took pictures. There was little footsteps of children and handprints in the flower from them going up and down the hallway. Um, so yeah, that was one method we used. And then of course she did the whole leave the ball in the hallway, which she ended up saying. She got up in the middle of the night and took the ball away from them because they were like playing racquetball with it. She was like, I can't handle this. Can't handle this. Um and uh yeah, so yeah, I have I have experienced that. It was the coolest thing because like that legitimizes that there was actual, you know, and she was a grown woman who had regular sized feet and whatever. So she couldn't have there's no way she could have done what done that, you know what I mean? Like we did there was no way to debunk it. So it it really works if you do that. You can put the flower down, and if they they walked through it, and then there was a couple hand prints from you know, whatever. So yeah, it was really cool.

SPEAKER_02 11:54

Wow, yeah, that's that's fascinating. Yeah, I'd like to do that sometime.

SPEAKER_01 12:01

Yeah, and we know some place is haunted, we can you know do a little investigation, and one of the tricks to do is put down flour, and flower is cheap enough where you could put it down to see if you capture the little footprints going through or big footprints.

SPEAKER_05 12:17

If you're in a dusty house and you don't have to worry about it, but no, I've never seen hand prints or anything like that on a mirror um materialized like from steam or anything like that. That would be really kind of creepy, actually, you know, to see something like that. You know, you get those horror flicks where the steam says, you know, comes through on the mirror and like ugh, I don't know about hand prints. Um I ponder all these you know scenes from horror flicks with you know hands coming through the wall and stuff.

SPEAKER_01 12:46

Um no, thank you. If I saw a hand melting through the wall, I'd probably be like, I'm out.

SPEAKER_03 12:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 12:53

There's a lot of things though. Dolls, dolls for me, basements for her, and uh hands to walls. There you go.

SPEAKER_01 13:00

Clowns, clowns, no clowns. No clowns. All right, come on with a clown. We're not gonna go investigating in Barnum and Bailey's, you know, museum. Just not good.

SPEAKER_05 13:15

If we ever do a road trip, a haunted America road trip between the three of us, I think between all three of us, there's at least one brave soul for each little um place that we go. That's true.

SPEAKER_02 13:25

That's a good point.

SPEAKER_05 13:26

So the dolls it'll be Ryan.

SPEAKER_02 13:28

Yeah, that's fine.

SPEAKER_05 13:29

I could do a basement, I can do a basement, and I could do a clown, but it's all that's all that's all on you, Ryan.

SPEAKER_02 13:35

All right, what else did you find? Yeah. Um Yeah, and then lastly at this place, there was uh a spirit called the tall man with a hat. And I know we were talking about that briefly after uh last week. I don't know if we were recording at that point, but the fact that you know we tend to see like the women in red, the the women in green, but then it's like the tall man with a hat.

SPEAKER_05 13:57

Like it's just like it sounds like to me that makes me chuckle. Do you know the the storybook's Curious George? Yes, the tall man with the yellow hat or whatever it was, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:06

Yeah, yeah. And so then I I was like, you know, what about with men? Like, are there any like the green man? I don't know. But uh then I was like, when I when I go, am I gonna be known as like the fun-loving Muppet lover in green? Like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 14:22

Like watches the birds, I don't know. I don't know, yeah. Like leaves coins everywhere. There you go. We hit them all. Exactly, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 14:30

So, but uh the tall man with the hat. So he's just seen with with an old-fashioned hat. Uh he's seen several times in this building. He appears at the end of hallways, stands in doorways, watching guests. He tends to disappear when approached. Um, so yeah. So that was that was this place. Um another interesting uh place that I found is I'm gonna butcher this name too, but the Wabasha Street Caves. How do you spell it? W-A-B-A-S-H-A. Wabasha. Wabasha Street Caves. Okay. So I thought this was awesome. We're definitely gonna have to go visit this if both of you are okay being in caves. I'm the cave.

SPEAKER_01 15:17

But okay, Heather's saying, alright, so so hold my hand.

SPEAKER_02 15:26

I'm cool with a cave.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_02 15:29

Um so the lunking. It's a network of uh man-made caves carved into uh the bluffs alongside the Mississippi River in St. Paul. Um currently they're used for tours, events, swing dancing. Um but there used to be speakeasies there. Um the mob was in there. Like there's a bunch of history here. So but uh they had like nightclubs, dance halls in there. Uh so it's it's pretty cool. It was pretty popular during the 1920s and 1930s. Um so they think that there might be some um gangster spirits in there, perhaps. Uh so witnesses sometimes see men wearing long trench coats or suits. Okay, so that's different than just a guy with a tall with a hat. But um, but they're also wearing fedora style hats, so okay, there we go.

SPEAKER_01 16:21

But uh Fedora, I could see like maybe a cowboy hat or a top hat being tall, but I was a fedora.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:29

And then a fedora, yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_02 16:32

Yeah, so they're wearing long trench coats or suits with fedora style hats. Okay. They're believed to be gangsters or mob associates from the 1920s, 1930s. Um they're usually, let's see, seen like deeper in the room is where the old nightclub and gambling areas were located. Um, so usually you'll see them like standing silently along the walls or you know, like appearing briefly and then disappearing. Uh sometimes you can hear male voices like arguing or whispering. So found that interesting. Um there is a woman in white. Uh so she's there as well.

SPEAKER_01 17:10

Uh we're gonna need a lot of white pins.

SPEAKER_02 17:13

Yeah, we're gonna yeah. Usually wearing a long white dress. Um they're saying that she kind of looks like she's gliding rather than walking. And uh she's mostly seen at the old dance floor area uh where where they hosted live music. So people are wondering if maybe she was a singer or performer or maybe just a guest. Um this is fascinating. Uh there's a bartender, well, a spirit bartender there. So yeah.

SPEAKER_05 17:45

So you can you can get your spirits from a spirit? Yeah, there you go.

SPEAKER_02 17:51

Yeah. So they're thinking that once again he was from the speakeasy days. Um, so it's just a man standing behind a bar when the room is empty. Um, sometimes you can see movement with the glasses or bar items. Um and yeah, then there was also another sh like a shadow, like a l watcher lurking lurking spirit, um, like back towards the cave tunnels. So just kind of staying away in the distance. So I found that interesting. Oh.

SPEAKER_01 18:22

So he was introverted.

SPEAKER_02 18:24

Yeah, there you go. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 18:26

Um he was observing for his next kill. That's all there you go. Or maybe he was one of the bodyguards for the mobsters and stuff.

SPEAKER_02 18:36

Oh, that would make sense.

SPEAKER_05 18:38

Yeah, that would make sense. Someone that had to stay back and watch.

SPEAKER_02 18:41

Yeah, yeah. Um, and then you may find this interesting as well. There are uh dancers there, like spirit dancers. So I love that. Yes, I think.

SPEAKER_05 18:56

So sometimes a can can I went, are they like chippendales? What are they doing?

SPEAKER_04 19:03

Because the way Ryan said, you're gonna find this interesting. I'm like, okay.

SPEAKER_02 19:06

I don't know. I mean, if you walk in somewhere and you see people dancing, but they're spirits, like that's that's kind of interesting.

SPEAKER_05 19:13

You know, if you it's funny because you know, one of the more um famous attractions that you can go to in Disney World is a haunted mansion, right? And they have a room of the ballroom, and you have spectrals that are dancing. Sure.

SPEAKER_02 19:26

Right.

unknown 19:28

Why not?

SPEAKER_02 19:29

Very cool. Um so yeah, and then the last place that I that I found here is called um Mounds Theater, and that's in uh St. Paul's. And uh basically that was an old theater opened up in 1922. Um I'm noticing a theme here. I think I found them all in the early 1900s this time. But anyway, um basically uh they originally hosted Silent Films, um, so that's that's awesome. Uh it closed down in 1967, but then it reopened as now it's like a performance venue. So they have live shows there rather than films. Um But the spirits there, there's one called Red, so he's an angry projectionist. So he was a former projectionist who he worked at the theater's projection booth, and he gets angry if people go in there, so he will actually like throw objects.

SPEAKER_01 20:28

Wow, talk about being possessive, yeah, yeah, because he's can't have it. Yeah, yeah. I guess this is back before, you know, Blockbuster and now we're dating ourselves, right? Back before Blockbuster when you could just rent the film, right? Everything was coveted because it was on reels, right?

SPEAKER_02 20:50

Right. Oh, yeah, especially in the in the 1920s and 1930s, absolutely. Um, there's a little girl in the in a pink dress, so we have pink as well.

SPEAKER_01 21:00

Um we got a little girl in a pink dress. That's when we gotta talk.

SPEAKER_02 21:04

Yeah, she she appears usually near the stage or in the lobby. Um, sometimes like you'll see her bouncing a toy ball, or you'll hear children's laughter when she's around. Um there's also another spirit named Jim who was an usher there, and so you'll see him in the theater just walking through the aisles, or he'll just be standing near the sitting area.

SPEAKER_01 21:28

Um making sure you're not throwing on popcorn.

SPEAKER_02 21:32

Exactly, yeah, just doing his job, you know. Doing his job. Yeah. So yeah, so that that's what I found there. And I just uh I don't know, all all different places, all different kinds of spirits. So it'll be interesting if any of our listeners have been to any of those places. Um, especially, yeah, I I don't know. I'm I'm just curious.

SPEAKER_01 21:51

So absolutely. I'd love to meet the little girl. Maybe we could get her to play, maybe we could get her to you know dance around. For us, or you know, get her to laugh on recording. That would be great. That would be really cool.

SPEAKER_05 22:05

Throw some flour on the floor, particularly to get the dancers and all their footsteps. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:10

Yeah, that would be cool too. And if we could like digitally record to see the changes, that would be really cool.

SPEAKER_02 22:16

Oh, that's a great idea. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:18

Like a time lapse, right? Sure. You're the media guy, so I'm not really sure how that all works, but I would think it's just the camera and you just record, right?

SPEAKER_02 22:27

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 22:27

I wonder if they would give permission for something like that.

SPEAKER_02 22:32

I don't know. We'd have to see. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 22:33

As an owner, I'm not sure I'd want you coming in and smattering my floor with flour. You're gonna clean it, right?

SPEAKER_05 22:45

I I think back to the days when my kids were little and what they would make messes with. Oh yeah. The worst I think was when Christopher found the Vaseline tub and Vaselined everything in his room. Oh God, what a mess.

SPEAKER_02 23:01

Sounds like quite an adventure.

SPEAKER_05 23:04

Actually, if I think about a lot of the mess, Chris was probably when he was maybe like four, four or five, we had little kittens and he wanted to play with them. I said, Well, here's the thing of yarn. They like to play with yarn, so why don't you take in the yarn and play? Well, I go, I'm in my bedroom, I cut on my bedroom, and he's literally took that thing of yarn and he wrapped it all around everything in and out of rooms. And it was like, you know, those laser mazes that you have to slip. That's what it was like. How did you do this? Oh my gosh, I'll never forget that. Anyway, I I think you're right. Probably people wouldn't want you to, you know, spread flour around. Not without industrial vacuum cleaner, because flour, man, that can stay.

SPEAKER_01 23:49

Well, you know what we could offer as a solution is we'll bring a giant tarp and we'll keep all the flour on the tarp. And that way we can just fold the tarp up and sweep up the rest of anything that falls off from them kicking, right? I mean, we'll have options.

SPEAKER_05 24:05

I love how we're true we're troubleshooting something before we even have permission to do it.

SPEAKER_02 24:10

I mean, that's a that's a better I was thinking we could bring a vacuum, but like you're right, we could just have a tarp.

SPEAKER_01 24:17

Listen, it's expensive to check vacuums. We're not checking all vacuums.

SPEAKER_05 24:23

We're doing Ghostbusters. We come with flour and a vacuum and a tarp.

SPEAKER_01 24:29

We get to keep the vacuum because we're not traveling back to forth.

SPEAKER_02 24:34

So the all right, so they get a parting gift. Here's your vacuum.

SPEAKER_04 24:40

You can have a vacuum full of the flour that we put all over your house. There you go. Oh man. All righty.

SPEAKER_05 24:50

All right, ready to travel to Wisconsin?

SPEAKER_02 24:52

Yes, yeah, go ahead, Lisa.

SPEAKER_05 24:54

So I went to Wisconsin. Well, I didn't go there, but uh in my research, I I went to Wisconsin and I decided to take a different tack. We've been doing a lot of like hotels, not that I didn't research some of those, but I was fascinated with creepy roads. How would you like to go down a creepy road or walk down a creepy path and what would happen? So I did find two actually in the great state of Wisconsin. One is called J Road, and it's purported to be maybe one of the most haunted roads in Wisconsin. Um, it's said to be a rural drive that stretches from the small town of Boltonville in Washington County to the shore of Lake Michigan. Some people called an oblique rural drive. It's supposedly thickly lined with trees and has a stagnant swamp that's adjacent to it. Um, so there are two uh ghostly legends around J. Road. The first, and probably not as well known, is one of spectral cats, so ghost cats.

unknown 25:58

Nice.

SPEAKER_05 25:59

And that story is about a woman who lived alone on Jay Road with her cats. Um, according to legend, uh teenagers from the town used to harass the woman, and eventually it escalated to where her home was set on fire. Oh and the house supposedly burned to the ground and her beloved cats were lost to the blaze.

SPEAKER_01 26:23

Is this where the crazy cat lady theory comes in?

SPEAKER_05 26:26

I don't know about that. I don't know about that, but um, so supposedly travelers have reported, um, you know, travelers that don't know anything about it, but have reported seeing apparitions of burning cats running alongside of the road. How sad is that?

SPEAKER_01 26:41

Wow, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 26:44

Now, if you go a little further, you'll find some Boltonville residents that don't seem to recall a house ever actually burning down in that area. However, if you go even further, um there's a researcher that uncovered a former resident of J Road who had discovered a burned out foundation of an old house on the property that they had rented. Um so along with other apparitions, uh, they would often encounter cats in their home that weren't really there. So these people who rented this other house on the property that where this burnt-out house house was, um, they had have had experienced other apparitions, including cats. So uh there might be something there, there, right?

SPEAKER_04 27:26

Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_05 27:28

Being a cat lover, that would be hard for me to see. I mean, I know I have visitations for my own cats that have crossed over Rango Bro Bridge and stuff like that, but burning cats, uh, that'd be hard.

SPEAKER_01 27:38

And the smell, if you're actually like clear gustings, or yeah, ooh, I uh kind of you know.

SPEAKER_05 27:48

Um, so the more well-known ghost story of J. Road is that of the jogger on the road. So apparently there was a tragic action accident that happened. Um, according to the story, a woman was out jogging along the road and she was struck by a drunk driver, and the force sent her creaning into the swamp. Remember, there's a stagnant swamp there, and her body sank into the muck and was never recovered. Um so apparently on certain nights, um, with the of course, with the fog rolling in over the swamp, um, rolling in from the swamp over the road, people have reported seeing a woman still jogging down the road. Um when their headlights hit her, she apparently will glance at the car and then vanish. Um and if you look back in your rearview mirror, you can um see the jogger again. So yeah, apparently she startled many um driver. Um and it is it is reported when you look in your rear view mirror, if you don't see her jogging on the street, you'll see her sitting in your back seat.

SPEAKER_03 28:59

How would you like that?

SPEAKER_05 29:00

Pick up the jogger.

SPEAKER_03 29:01

Wow.

SPEAKER_05 29:02

I'm tired of running, man. Give me a ride. So apparently she startled many a driver by appearing in their back seat when they look in the rear view mirror. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:13

That's that's something.

SPEAKER_05 29:15

So I don't know which would be more alarming for me going down J Road, seeing burning ghost cats, or if I'm driving, looking my back seat and seeing boop, there you are.

SPEAKER_02 29:28

I don't know. I think it'd be startling either way.

SPEAKER_01 29:31

Yeah, either way for sure. Um we do talk about this in like psychic class, how like sometimes when you're driving down the road, if it's not that white line or yellow line hypnosis, right? Like when you're driving down the road and all of a sudden you find yourself like answering questions, like, yeah, I can see that, or yeah, you know, and we talk about how sometimes our family members or spirits, when you're driving, will jump in the car with you and you find yourself just having conversations. Um, I mean, nothing, well, I suppose if you're not open to it, it'd be pretty creepy to like look over at your passenger seat and see someone talking to you. But um, I mean, I've had that happen where I'm just driving, jamming outs of music, and all of a sudden I look over and I'm like, yeah, I can understand that. And it's like, wait, wait, who am I answering? Right? Or you look real quick in the back seat and you see someone, you know, sitting there. So I mean, it wasn't creepy, but like it can happen.

SPEAKER_05 30:31

Well, I don't think it's very creepy to you because you're clairvoyant to begin with. So that's that's in your warehouse of your experience, right? Um, for me, I'm not as clairvoyant all the time. So when I do see spirit in that, it's startling. I I wouldn't say it's scary, it startles me. Um, but I definitely put people in in a car with me. Sure, I would sense their energy and I would pick that up and you know, definitely start getting their thoughts and things. But um, yeah, interesting.

SPEAKER_01 31:00

Ever have a conversation, you just start talking to yourself and you're like, and then later realize who the hell was I talking to? Right.

SPEAKER_02 31:07

Exactly. To be honest, I just assume I always have spirits in the car with me. So I'm just always talking to them. I'm like, hey guys, here we're going.

SPEAKER_05 31:16

Especially in your car, apparently. You need that extra guidance as well.

SPEAKER_02 31:20

Exactly. I'm like, let's let's put a bubble around the car right now before we go anywhere.

SPEAKER_05 31:25

There you go. All right. So here's another, here's another. This is a lane. It's called Boy Scout Lane, and it's a secluded road in Stevens Point. Um, and this one is definitely got some eerie stuff happening, uh, definitely some urban legend or local lore. Uh apparently there was a very tragic event in the 1950s or 60s, not really clear on the the date, but it was in the 50s or 60s, um, that involved a Boy Scout troop. Uh, and there are different versions about what happened to it, but um, all the versions suggest that they were murdered or disappeared um in in this area, and that's why it's called the Boy Scout um troop or Boy Scout Lane. Um, let's see. So here are the three different stories or legends around what happened to the Boy Scouts. So it was either they were murdered by their scout master. That would be really sick and sad. Um, in other stories, it's the bus driver um that killed them in an in um, I guess out in the woods. Um, and then the other story is that a small group of scouts left the camp and accidentally dropped their lantern, which we created a a forest fire that and killed the entire troop. Either way, they're all very tragic. Um, so you know, whether it's the bus that crashed and caught fire, whether it's the scout members that dropped the lantern and caused a fire that killed them, or the scout master that murdered them all, this Boy Scout troop apparently disappeared. And it was thought that they um were murdered. So what are the stories of the ghosts of Boy Scout Lane? Well, apparently uh it has been reported that you can see uh lights in the woods, like lantern lights swinging, as if you're hiking with a lantern light. Um, there have been reported sightings of a ghostly bus. Wow. So I guess the bus they see traveling and then it disappears. Um, and then there's also been um Boy Scout apparitions that people will pick up and see, uh, a strong sense of foreboding or being watched. You can get the sound of footsteps or breaking branches coming from multiple directions if you're on this lane. Um and this is interesting. If you happen to have brought your car and you parked it and get out and walk the lane, um people go back to their vehicles and they discover handprints on child handprints on their car. Wow.

SPEAKER_01 34:24

Well, now we could do that. We could like, you know, rub the rental down with something to have them, you know, leave their handprints on the car, just make sure we take it through the car wash after, maybe. I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 34:44

I get that, I mean, if they're leaving a handprint, then their hands are probably dirty, you know, and they leave or you know, whatever it is. But um, I just found, you know, if you're in these areas and you're walking down, you know, you're hiking and you hear about different things, but these are two different areas in Wisconsin that have a ghostly lane or a road to go down. So I thought that was kind of interesting. I did go to Milwaukee. Um, how can you go to Wisconsin? Not hit hit Milwaukee, and one of the more uh famous places that are haunted there is the Feister Hotel, P-F-I-S-T-E-R, Feister Hotel. It was built in 1893, and it was known as the Grand Hotel of the West. Um it is it has been, I guess, premier accommodation uh in downtown Milwaukee ever since it was built, and to this day, it continues to serve guests from all over the world. Um, and it sticks to its tradition of providing very gracious style and impeccable service in case you want to go there. During the period of decline, there was a period of decline in the 50s and 60s, again, the 50s and 60s in Wisconsin problem here. Um, it the hotel was purchased by Ben Marcus, who was determined to bring the hotel back to its former glory. And when the hotel went through several years of renovate renovation, and it now it includes a 23-story guest room tower. So this particular hotel happens to be a hotel that is used by Major League Baseball players. Um when they're in Milwaukee, I guess, you know. Um, this is where uh baseball and as well as basketball teams um will stay at the Pfeister Hotel because it's such a grand hotel. But um many of the major league baseball players have reported a wide range of paranormal activity when they stay at this hotel. And some of the things that they report are like electrical anomalies, like things, lights flickering or things turning off and on, um, or objects being moved around or manipulated in some way, and of course, then also apparitions. Um there are I'm gonna tell you a couple of the ghost stories from a couple of these baseball players, just so you know. Um and one was uh from uh a former Rangers infielder, his name was Michael Young. He has been quoted as saying that he doesn't he's not someone to spread ghost stories, but if he's telling you about it, then be for sure that this really did happen. According to him, um, he was in bed trying to sleep after a night game, and he was apparently out. Um, his room was locked, but then he started to he was woken up by footsteps inside the room, a lot of stomping around in the room. Um, and of course, he had already heard about these ghost stories. So what he his tact was to say, hey, make yourself at home, just don't wake me up. And apparently that worked.

SPEAKER_02 37:57

Um that's good to know.

SPEAKER_05 37:59

Yeah. Uh another baseball player, Adrian Beltree, he's a former player for the LA Dodgers. He was um interviewed by he said actually in an article in Sports Illustrated that when he was at this hotel, he heard knocking in the hallway on his door, and but when he went out to investigate, found no one later. Uh the air conditioning and the television would switch on and off by themselves in his room. Now I could see maybe an air conditioner if it's controlled by a thermostat, but a TV. I don't know. Um when he was sleeping, apparently, he was also uh woken up by pounding noises from behind his headboard. Apparently, he was so scared he took his back.

SPEAKER_01 38:42

No messing around with pounding noises behind the headboard. Come on now.

SPEAKER_05 38:48

Apparently, he was so squared, scared he took his back to bed for protection. I think that's just adorable. Um he reported only sleeping for two hours during his three-night stay.

SPEAKER_01 39:00

Oh boy, he was exhausted. At that point, he was hallucinating.

SPEAKER_05 39:04

Maybe um and now another baseball player from the Minnesota Twins, he was playing for the Minnesota Twins at the time, was Carlos Gomez. He experienced something um on the day before his big game. He heard disembodied voices and then saw his iPad switch on by itself, and then the iPod began vibrating so um violently or wildly that it almost fell to the floor. He put the iPad back on the table where it started doing the same thing again. Um, so you have to wonder, was it table shaking or was it something shaking the iPad? Um, so yeah, these are some accounts that have been reported by people in Major League Baseball. I found that interesting. Um, so there's a lot of other, many other reports by people, um, you know, any kind of mischievous activity, including electrical malfunctions. Several guests reported seeing an apparition of an elderly gentleman. Um and then, of course, uh, and that is thought to be the founder of the hotel, Charles Feister, just walking in the halls. Uh, you can go and stay there if you want at the Feister Hotel. Um, you know, as maybe it's something we check out. Um, I did try to look up ghost ladies that, you know, that have a color attached to them. I did find and I got real excited, and then I got um not so excited. Um, I found mention of a lavender lady. Oh yeah, and I thought, oh, cool, we could put a purple pin on there, right? Um she was found at the roads, you can find the lavender lady at the road center of for arts. Um and in recent years, I guess, there is tales of a uh a spirit called the Lavender Lady. Um she hangs out in the restroom that's attached to the lounge in this theater. And the reason she's called the Lavender Lady is not because she's lavender, but because she smells like lavender. So it is so this ladies' room, restroom, is filled with a lot of long mirrors, and one of the more common claims is that you can see her form in the mirror. Um so she appears in those mirrors. Um, and if you don't see her, you can definitely smell her lavender, her lavender perfume. So I was excited for the lavender lady, but then she turned out just to be smelly and not so much purple. So uh yeah. Yeah. Um, and then you know, in my quick grasp for some sort of lady that had a colour attached to her, I did find that there is in the Mabel Tainter Theater um in I I I might put you this Ryan Menom Menominee, Wisconsin. M-E-N-O-M-O-N-I-E, Menominee, Wisconsin. Um, it was built in 1889. Um, it was originally a structure that was created to give tribute to Mabel Tainter, who was a young woman from the area who loved the theater and arts, and she died at the age of 19 in 1886. Um and her parents, who were very wealthy, constructed this theater as a memorial to her. Um so it is said that in this theater there's a lot of things that that do happen. Um so in the changing room area in the downstairs of the building, people have seen shadowy figures, heard phantom footsteps. Um there's even been a paranormal group that went in there, and of course, they caught voices on their audio recorders. Um they a lot of times people feel as if they're being watched in the in these changing rooms, which of course would be uncomfortable. Um, another haunted area in this theater is um the auditorium where performances are taking place. Again, people will see shadowy figures walking through this area um and they simply just disappear. The figures um are most often seen on the catwalks that are over the stage, right? Where the lighting and all that stuff is. Um and they hear voices and footsteps coming from the catwalks, um, despite no one being there. Um other times during rehearsal, actors will say they see people watching them from the seats, and these figures will then vanish. Um and then still other times, some weird things. Things will happen with the soundboards, and apparently the organ that's there make will make noise on its own. But apparently, the most famous ghost that haunts this theater is that of Mabel Tainter herself, and she appears as a woman in a white dress. There you go. So this is a woman in white, and she will be seen floating through the building. Um, most of these apparitions are seen on the second floor and in the women's restrooms. So um, there you go. If you happen to go to the Mabel Tain to theater and you are on the second floor and you see a white w a woman in a white dress, woman in white floating by, just say hi to Mabel, apparently. So again, I would love to know if anybody in Wisconsin traveled these spooky roads or been to the hotel or this theater. Um, I don't know. That was my that was my research in Wisconsin. I know there's lots of other places. Um, when I was in reading up on Wisconsin, I found this really cool house that I would love to visit called the Octagon House that apparently has a lot of secret passageways through it. Um yeah, but yeah, anyway, that was Wisconsin. So that's in the Midwest, but let's go back down to the south to good old Tennessee. What you got?

SPEAKER_01 45:13

Again in the Seos, absolutely, it was uh a different way of life for sure. Um different, different um personality uh compared to the Northeast here. Uh, but very, very fascinating. And of course, we didn't know where to put our attention um for the day trips that we had planned because there is so much rich history down in Clarksville, Tennessee, um, just between the wars and you know the river and um all sorts of things, but I focused on one where we went to the Bell Witch Cave, and this is currently closed, um, so you can't at the time at this time um can't go to this Bellwitch Cave, but it drew my attention. Um, it's located in Adams, Tennessee, and so to get there, you go through these rolling long, beautiful roads just filled, you know, with green grass right now, especially right now it was 85 down there. Uh big difference from our north, you know, northeast weather. Um didn't pack correctly for that one, but that's okay. A little sweat and tears, right? Nothing wrong with that. So we took a ride, it's about 45 minutes outside of Nashville, uh, in Adams, Tennessee, and it's called the Bell Witch Cave, which is located next to um lots of property, and it also caught the attention of uh future at that point in the 1800s, future president Andrew Jackson, and the Bell Witch of Adams has so much folklore around it and so many ghost stories around it, where they're saying that if you go into the cave, you're gonna have this haunting, if you go into the the homes, you're gonna have these hauntings. So, what is the bellwitch? It was a supernatural story that has come to be at this point. Um, it was it's claimed that in the in the bellwitch cave that Kate Bats, um owner of the property, would practice her witchcraft in this cave. And so they the the tour hall prides itself that when you go into this cave, you're gonna have some form of supernatural uh interaction. But then you have the reality story of it's believed that Kate Bats use that cave to um escape the heat, because down south, you know, we get those we get those humid, you know, mouthful of soup kind of feeling. And that was a terminology that we were told when it gets so muggy and humid down there, it's like breathing in a mouthful of soup. And it kind of raised an eyebrow because that's obviously not something we say up here in the northeast. Although I can remember a few days, I'm sure you guys too can too, where it's been pretty humid and it does feel like a mouthful of soup. Yep. Um, but the accounts is the bell witch claimed to be, you know, like I said, Kate Bats, and um, and then she had an unfriendly neighbor of John Bell, who was believed that he cheated her out of land, and she was she was very angry about this. And so I don't know. I don't know. We we came to realize quickly that folklore and maybe reality were bumping into each other just because of just because it's a great story. Um, but give me one second. So from 1817 to 1821, a man named John Bell and his family were harassed by a mysterious and invisible spirit known as the Bell Witch. And this became legend down here in Adams, Tennessee. And it was said that this witch had the ability to speak and shape shift and be in multiple places at once. Now, this is probably a dream for a lot of people, or you know, that want to multitask. Included.

SPEAKER_04 49:35

I was on that.

SPEAKER_01 49:36

Yes, yes. Um, but the area down there in Tennessee, it's a it especially back in that era, it was just rolling wilderness, you know, forest as far as the eye can see, and you wouldn't see your neighbor um unless you went miles, you know, to get to it. Um, but they say that there were strange occurrences during this whole time period where the Bell family farm came across a dog-like creature. Um, and this is where John Bell um fired his gun at this animal and it vanished very quickly. And then following that vanishing of the dog, there were many disturbances that the Bell family um reported. They began to have knocking on their home and noises and lots of gnawing sounds and sounds of chains dragging across the floor, which I really couldn't find any research why there would be chains dragging across the floor because she was a free woman and she, but again, folklore meeting, you know, hitting the pavement to reality. Um, but it they do say that it became um after all the sounds and it became interactive, and this is where the family of John Bellon, um, his wife and his daughter Betsy um seemed to have received most of the abuse. And there's an account that the witch possessed um Betsy, the daughter, and she began speaking in tongues, full conversations in tongue, where the family felt that she was possessed. Um, and it directed it was directed at John Bell with insults, and um they quickly responded that the witch had possessed her. Um and John pleading with the spirit, asking the witch to speak to him, which I apparently has happened, and the spirit was, you know, telling him that I was a very happy woman, and you've disturbed me and make me you made me unhappy. Um even the families, and I please I use this word loosely because we're from the northeast, we don't have certain southern prejudice that they do still have somewhat in the south, but they use words um because this is back in an era when this was real, where the families' enslaved workers did report strange happenings. So there's definitely some form of something happening on this land, and whether it's through witchcraft or just natural generation, I don't know. But the enslaved people did say that they encountered the witch several times. She would come in the form of a dog, um, a dog-like creature, sometimes having two heads, um, and admitting that the encounters were uh all kind of made around this witch. And so the Mr. Bell had gone out there, he was gonna meet this, you know, this witch dog at you know face value. It claims, as I said earlier, shot the dog and the dog vanished. Um many people that still go there say that they're grabbed and that there's invisible entities of fire that happen and terrible odors. Um, but again, the claim is all that it's happening in this cave and at the Bell property and also at the at the um other property. Um, and then of course, John Bell became physically uh started to climb physically in the December of 1820. Mr. Bell passed away, and of course, her his death was blamed on this witch, um, that she poisoned him somehow. And uh it's even said that the witch crashed his funeral and sang cheerful drinking songs during the ceremony. Um yeah, yeah, pretty fascinating. I'm not sure. I mean, I've been to several funeral homes where you know your loved ones are standing there, and but I've never heard cheerful drinking songs happening.

SPEAKER_02 54:19

That's something. Wow.

SPEAKER_01 54:21

Yeah. Um, but it is said that once John Bell did pass, that some of the um hauntings and the abuse kind of stopped, you know, lessened and then eventually stopped altogether. Um, unfortunately, we weren't able to go in there and kind of test out that theory. So it was uh it was a matter of coming to our own deduction of, you know, is this folklore, is this folktales, is this really happening? Um, was the supernatural connected to the land? Because I mean, uh Clarksville, most of Tennessee has deep rich history with the Cherokee Indians. Um, so it could have been the land. Um, but you can go and you can go to the Bellwitch huntings. Um, I would go with a very open mind because it does seem that some of this uh folk tale or folklore has been embellished uh to attract ghost hunters hunters and attract, you know, people who want to have, you know, some form of experience. Um and it might have been over embellished at this point. Uh we also received later confirmation when we took a ride to Port Royal um State Park, and we were very blessed to meet up with a um park ranger who was extremely knowledgeable. We spent over three hours with this gentleman and later him admitting that he is actually married to an ancestor of the witch. And so, of course, there was a whole different version of the caves and the John Bell story that came to light there. So I think some of this has been embellished for you know, profit, which there's nothing wrong with that. Just do your research. Um, it did appear to be quite fascinating. Unfortunately, like I said, we weren't able to go into the caves. Um, but again, paranormal is paranormal. The the legend is uh a huge old story from an old time, and then also having our, you know, at that our former president Jackson there um was you know brings another whole part of that history to to everything. So from there we decided that we were going to uh take a little ride and uh go to the Smiths uh and I might be butchering this because unfortunately I wasn't able to actually talk to anybody, but in Clarksville, Tennessee, there is the Smith Trahern Mansion, and um this is a grand mansion that stands on top of the hill overlooking the river. And so the Smith Turrant uh Trahern Mansion stands at guard over the Cumberland River. It is a historical river where there is actual documentation of you know war traveling across the back and forth across the river, down the river, which this river actually leads down right down to New Orleans. It connects into the Mississippi. And from learning from this wonderful park ranger, he told us all rivers in Tennessee do lead into the Mississippi down into Louisiana. And so as we stood at this beautiful, beautiful mansion, brick with the tri traditional columns and um on this big hill, just looking as far as the eye can see, um, this house has a legacy. This house loomed, it actually looms over the area. It's it's kind of has its like own presence because the rest of the area doesn't have that quite uh fascinating. But Clarksville is a hub for tobacco. And so the gentleman who owned this home what made his fortune in tobacco. Uh, throughout Kentucky and Tennessee, he was known for his dark fire tobacco, um, was internationally popular because tobacco is an up-and-coming kind of product that was sought after by many people, um, hence we're smoking, right? And this all kind of took place in the 1858 on. Um, but it is said that this home is uh, you know, a mansion full of rich history, and it was sold in 1919 to um, you know, and renovations had taken place, and this is where everything kind of got uh stirred up, right? We often hear about stories how when older mansions are starting to be, you know, reconciled or refurbished, that it stirs up, you know, it it stirs up the the ghosts, right? And they all made it very clear they weren't happy that this was being changed. So um, but it does, it is said that you can go in there in that it is an intellectual haunting. The house is very much a civil war house, and it has, but it was also um not only like colonial presentation, it also had a it was very Italianated, it was very much products brought from Italy over to this countryside, which was not known over there in Tennessee. Um, the house is known for people that hosted German immigrants, and it was also a German immigrant who helped revise some of the um fixings of this beautiful mansion. And we were hoping to go in there because we, you know, the legend is that everyone loves a good ghost story, including me. So we wanted to see if we could have an interaction, and there's lots of talk about how the upstairs room in the mansion um were rented out to people that needed a place to stay for maritime, you know, purposes, um, and lots of other, you know, typical right, typical hauntings. Um, and it is said that Lucy Smith passed away in the home in 1909, and that her grief is still hanging there. And so unfortunately, we weren't able to go in there and elaborate on this. What I did was I did walk around, you can walk around the property. So if you're looking at the bottom of the hill up at this great mansion, to the left is an enormous cemetery, so you know that's full of lots of lime, and then you have main roads to the right of it. But on the front porch is an old-fashioned rocking chair, and so just me beating me, I just kind of took a moment of reverence to kind of review the house. And as I was taking pictures, I did notice. And please understand, there was not a breeze in the air, it was very still, it was very warm. It moved, didn't it? It moved in acknowledgement, and I was like, you know, whoa, okay. So there is something going on there, right? And unfortunately, as I continued to take pictures, I could see someone, which now I firmly believe it was the daughter, up in the window. But as I pinched all my pictures, I cannot find her silhouette. So she was not captured in my pictures. But I promise you, what I saw spiritually was this beautiful person standing in the window looking back out at me. And that was the extent of my experience there. Um, just because there was a lot more other things I wanted to get to. Yeah. Um if you ever go down to Clarksville, uh, I highly recommend, you know, go talk go to Port Royal um State Park and engage the park rangers. They have a plethora of information, um, extraordinary, absolutely extraordinary. So the reason why I went to obviously to Port Royal was because this is one of the locations of the Trail of Tears. And the Trail of Tears is obviously initially known for the removal of the Cherokee people and over 300 years ago at this point. So I just want to talk for a second because I uh I wanted to walk on this trail just because of reverence um for the Cherokee people. And so I brought tobacco and I brought some corn and to do an honoring. And as we as I got on this path, I realized there was no more reverence, there was no more feelings. And I have been to other um historical native sites where you can see, you know, our Native Americans in the woods doing duck and dive for hunting, and sometimes you would get the smells of you know the different foods they were cooking, and that was no longer present here. It was almost like everything had just been tamped down into the ground, and now it was just a state park. And it kind of made me sad, you know, because like this is an important part of our history, whether you're from the wherever you're from, to be honest with you. But initially the Cherokee were given a time frame of two years to be removed from their land, removed from this homeland that they only knew. And um back in 1837, and very few people, you know, very few Indians obviously wanted to be removed from their land. Nobody wants to be removed from their land. Um many of them had fled, um, but it became volatile. And at the at the end of the two years, the removal just became forced because nobody was doing, you know, nobody was removing themselves. This was their land, it began in 1838, and um it was an involuntary detachment, right? And it is said that over you know 10,000 Native Americans died in just the first year of this removal, and it just got worse and worse from there. Um, you know, there's documentations of from Elijah Hicks, who you know penned in his own words that here in Port Royal of October 24th, 1838, he was the leader of 11 involuntary detachments of the Cherokee people that came through Port Royal on the journey west. And it was it is it was heartbreaking, the the tragic. of sickness and the removal of these people is heartbreaking, right? And retracing the trail of tears, you know, you're invited to walk on this path, but again, it's just a it's just a park. I mean we walked into the park and there's one little sign that says you know Trail of Tears Path here. And then you walk down this path and it opens up to the river and there's people fishing and picnicking and much debris up on the shore because that river floods up to you know immense amounts down there. They they have immense floodings and it felt I felt sad. I felt sad that we have lost some of this to history right that we've lost um the true reverence. So when we went over to the main building in Port Royal again meeting up with this um awesome uh state park ranger he was I asked him I said you know why isn't there more reverence for this why isn't this still being told why are there no monuments why are not why are the Cherokee people that still remain here and fun fact uh nine out of 10 people in this area of Tennessee can trace their roots back to Cherokee Indian Wow that's amazing yeah yeah so um it became quite clear that you know it the Cherokee people were very influential down there. Um and he basically said the reason why the reverence is so small is because of prejudice. They're not open like we are they don't they don't see it liberally like we do up here you know and and it it does go to show you the different energies of you know places that you go to where what is acceptable and what is not acceptable. But there is um there is a you know there is a push obviously with our um day and age that there is a push to bring back their um bring back some heritage there right bring back the reverence for what our native Americ the Cherokee Americans you know well they're not Americans the Cherokee people um endured and uh but it's slow going it's uh closed mindedness and um not not at the top of anybody's list let's put it that way and the gentleman told us about a bike ride that happens every year it is it's called the remembrance of the removal of the Cherokees and this is an opportunity for all Cherokee women and youth women young youth men and women um to train and they go through vigorous training um and they actually do a bike ride uh through for the whole Trail of Tears and they learn stories of their heritage and it's the removal you can find the group on Facebook um it's remember the removal of the Cherokee and these people get to connect with their stories and with Cherokee elders and um you know if if anything if that's some reverence there which is is great to see that the Cherokee people are bringing back their language and they're repopulating and they're reconnecting and the youth are the only ones that can ride in this so that they can experience what their ancestors experienced um to a certain degree obviously um right uh but it is it is a beautiful park don't get me wrong if you're down there definitely visit it um you can catch later on where I'm gonna record some information about Port Royal because I have three hours of wonderful knowledge that I want to impart which we're not going to impart here. So definitely jump over to Patreon and subscribe so that you can hear about this Port Royal which is has an absolute amazing history not only with the Cherokee people but the settlers of of um you know Tennessee Port Royal uh but yeah if anybody else has anything they want to add to this I'd love to hear from you this is such a watered down rendition because I could talk all day about this in all the locations I went um but trying to do my best to just hit the facts here. And in closing on the Trail of Tears there was no ghosts there was no cooking there was no duck and dive hunting there was no um powow sounds or singing sounds it has all been pushed down into the earth of 300 years of history and um there was no no experience that to be had at that time when I was there.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:20

Okay well thank you for doing all that yeah incredible yeah all right well um we will continue our haunted American America series in the um coming episodes but before we leave today I just want to do a couple reminders from events that you'll find us at first coming up is in March um Sunday March 29th um all three of us will be at the ASC's New Age Fair which you'll find on 30 Greenfield Street in Weathersfield Connecticut at the William Pitkin Community Center there. So the three of us will be there uh we'll have hopefully have our um map of the United States with all the different uh ladies that we've been finding with their different pins and color getting that together for that and definitely stop by um would love to hear from you love to get some of your uh thoughts and opinions about potential topics possibly for us and we really just want to see you all and say hello right we love meet and greets and we got some swag for you um yeah we have some swag yeah it's all at Ryan's house um and then the second event coming up is on May 4th may the fourth be with you may 4th uh uh in the evening on it it's a Monday evening here in Coventry at the Millbrook Place um on Main Street there we will be doing a live taping of our podcast so we'd love to have you in audience definitely come out and support us that way so that you can um ask questions and if you have a story to share we would love to maybe get your voice on our podcast sharing that story uh so definitely register for that you can register for that on um either Serena Grove Wellness website um Serena Grove Center's website at in the events or also at R Saving Media I believe you have a link there too for that and then uh finally just to let you know we're gonna record a special bonus content about the green ladies uh for St. Patrick's Day and we decide to make that piece of bonus content which is usually reserved for um our subscribers over at Patreon but we're gonna make it public so if you are not a subscriber yet at Patreon you could definitely hop over there. We have three tiers of support there that you can do um you might want to see if you could uh listen to what bonus content is like for us um and you can uh that one will be made public for everyone to hear and that will be I believe we'll have that posted by Tuesday on St. Patrick's Day itself right um and that's coming up as well and I believe that's all I have as far as information for our little group our little troop here um if anybody wants to sponsor us on a haunted America uh road trip do let us know.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:11

Please let us know yes so in honor of St.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:15

Patrick's Day coming up for this week and next week I decided to look up affirmations that uh are about having good luck. Are we ready for those? Sure I thought you were going to say about with the color green but okay no no um but I like this one for today and here it is I am worthy of having everything I desire and I think a lot of people have issues with feeling worthy for things in their life but you don't I am worthy for having I I am worthy of having everything I desire. It's a great affirmation to say for yourself. And so with that being said uh let's look forward to connecting next week. How about that?