Circle of life (Parent edition)

Join Cheryl and Michelle as they discuss taking care of ailing or elderly parents. Is it the children’s responsibility or not?? Is the nursing home the first or last resort??! Do you agree with putting family members in nursing homes for a higher level of care?? We also discuss whether you should always be on your significant others side when out in public ? 

Michelle fills us in on the politics of this world. Please feel free to write us at Row5offtheclockpodcast@yahoo.com with any topic suggestions and feedback. Please write in with any dilemmas you would like to be discussed on the show, emails will remain anonymous if needed. We would love to share our point of view with you.

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:01

Welcome, welcome, welcome to another episode of Roll Five Off the Clock. I'm Cheryl Poison here with Michelle. Hi, Michelle. Hey, darling.

SPEAKER_00 0:09

How are you today? I'm good. Actually, really good. You're really good. It's nice outside. It's nice outside. I made it to church. I had a little excursion yesterday.

SPEAKER_01 0:19

It was fun. And I'm adjusting to this um daylight savings time. Yeah. It was hard for me last week, but I think I'm getting used to it this week.

SPEAKER_00 0:27

Yeah. I still question the person that decided to do it on the weekend.

SPEAKER_01 0:33

Um, I forgot last weekend and I was late to something.

SPEAKER_00 0:36

Ooh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 0:38

I was thinking, I was ahead of time. I was like, oh, I got good time. I was just laying around chilling. And then I happened to be looking on my iPad, and my iPad had 12 o'clock. It was like 12 something. I was like, Why is that? Why is it 12 something? Then I was like, oh my God, daylight savings time. Yes, indeed. I'm late.

SPEAKER_00 1:00

I lugged up. I didn't have anything planned because I did forget. Oh, okay. But I didn't have anything planned, but half the day was gone by the time I realized that it had changed. I was like, no wonder I feel kind of weird. I forgot. I totally forgot.

SPEAKER_01 1:11

I knew about it, but I still forgot about it. Yeah, so I was late. That's all right. It happened. Yeah, it was all right. The person was looking at me like, why are you late? It's like daylight Satan's time. It happens. It happens. So, Michelle, we got an email. Yes, we did. I'm excited. Would you like to read some of the email?

SPEAKER_00 1:31

Just a little piece of it. Okay. Um the email is from David Pissara. Please forgive me if I mis mispronounced that. Um, and he proceeded to tell us. He says, Hi, Cheryl and Michelle. Your conversations always bring fresh perspectives and real life stories that stick with me long after listening. As someone who spent over two decades in family law working to empower dads representing themselves, I believe my experiences could add a practical and heartfelt angle to your show. Through Union of Dads and Dad's Law School, I help fathers find their footing in family court from building their own cases to ensuring their voices and their kids' needs are truly heard. Now, I don't know how long everybody's been listening, but we do talk about a lot of family um situations, issues, and things. And so I do appreciate him. Um an actual lawyer who knows what he's talking about. Uh-huh. Um, I appreciate his encouragement to us and his uh his um offer of support. So thank you so much, Mr. David Pissara.

SPEAKER_01 2:41

And I appreciate him helping dads because dads need help sometimes too. Yeah, they get a bum rush, they get a very bum wrap, yeah, sometimes. And not all dads are bad.

SPEAKER_00 2:51

No, not at all. Yeah. No, quite a few who are one full.

SPEAKER_01 2:55

I know quite a few good um dads. So thank you for your service. Really appreciate it. And thank you for listening to us. Indeed. And if y'all want to write, anyone can write us. If you want to just give us a little advice, you wanna give us some encouragement to a topic you want to talk about, you can reach us at row5 off the clock podcast at Yahoo. We'd really appreciate it. We sure would. All right. So today our topic is Is it the children's responsibility to take care of aging or sick parents?

SPEAKER_00 3:35

You know my answer is yes. Yeah, my answer is yes, they're taking care of us. Yeah. It's to me that it's the natural order of things for it to switch at a certain time. Um the circle of life. Circle of life. And my mom had 10 children, and I you've been with me while she was going through all the things that she went through every time 2002, I think it was, when she had an aneurysm.

SPEAKER_02 4:00

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 4:01

Um, they told us that she was not going to make it, and we didn't believe them, and she didn't either. And she is now 94. We're preparing her for her 95th birthday this summer. Yes. God willing, everything will go smoothly.

SPEAKER_01 4:17

And that is such a blessing. It is. It truly is. Like, why wouldn't you want to take care of her? Right. Like, why would you want her to have any kind of pressure on her about anything in life? Exactly. She should have smooth sailors.

SPEAKER_00 4:30

She had 10 kids. There was no excuse for, like, the doctors wanted us to put her in a home and everything. And I am not talking down about people who have to uh who do it. But my mom had 10 kids and we didn't want to do that. And we so we worked together in shifts and whatever we had to do to make sure so that, yeah. Now when she was in rehab and stuff, because of course that's natural progression of after her illness, um, we did that in shifts. Um, we were blessed with a big family.

SPEAKER_01 4:58

And I really think that's the way it's supposed to be. Like if it's a lot of kids, all the kids need to pitch in and take care of the parents.

SPEAKER_00 5:05

One way or the other, it's not always financial because sometimes people can't do it. But if you can be there in presence to help take care of her or take to doctor visits, just anything. Sit with her when she cook a meal. When one sister needs to go do something, because one of one sister lives there. Um when she needs to go do something, and somebody needs to be there, then go so that that sister can even if it's just for a break. I'm just about to say that. Can go somewhere, you know.

SPEAKER_01 5:32

So everybody needs a break sometimes.

SPEAKER_00 5:34

So or go get mother and take her somewhere so sister can get get a break right there at home. Yeah. You know, something. But try to work together. Now, there are times when care is a little what for me, care doesn't just mean you you doing the physical work and you know, whatever. Because sometimes it is beyond you. And sometimes that person needs more professional care than just a child could give them. But when you get them the care that they need, that is you can't taking care of them. Yes. So you're still taking care of them. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:08

Yeah. Everybody's not blessed with 10 kids. And I know the nursing homes get a bad rap, but sometimes you you have no other choice but to put them in there. Yeah. Like you said, sometimes you can't care for them at home.

SPEAKER_00 6:21

Right.

SPEAKER_01 6:21

Or maybe like you're working and you have to work in order to take care of them. So you have to put them in. Right.

SPEAKER_00 6:28

Because somebody's got to pay for all of this and for the care, the medication, you know, all of that takes it takes away from you know what you can and can't do. So you have to decide what you you're financially able to do, what you're physically able to do. You know, because there are parents who aren't physically able to do a lot. And so that takes physical strength from the person. Person, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:53

Like if you have to wash them, take them to the bathroom, right? That kind of thing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:58

And so you have to just um it's not it's not an easy thing. And judgment on people who put have to put their parents in in nursing care, I I think is unfair.

SPEAKER_01 7:12

Yeah. But I feel like a lot of people just go ahead and put them in there without even trying to care for them. Like there's a lot of people who don't want to be bothered with their parents when they get older.

SPEAKER_00 7:23

And you see that sometimes when you go visit other people. I see that a lot. Yeah. And if you get there and there there are people who are looking forward to your visit because nobody has come to see you and you've come to see someone else, but they're there. And it is sad to see because it is sad. I don't think I think society older and elderly people still have a lot to contribute to society. And it may not be physical, physical, but it could be just learning from them. Stories. Yeah, I used to love to see it, and I still love to sit and listen to my mom talk. You know, some of the times that she talks about weren't easy, but I just like to hear her talk about it. You know, and so their contribution isn't gone. So we don't need to put them in a corner and forget.

SPEAKER_01 8:09

And you got to realize that they are still people, they get lonely, they want to conversate, they they want to do regular things like regular people. Yeah. They want to go to the movies, they want to go to Walmart and just walk around. They just want to do things. And I think people should spend more time with their parents, their elderly parents.

SPEAKER_00 8:30

Understand that. The things that they have done for you, you you probably won't ever get a chance to give that to them. All of that to them. You'll be doing the things that they did for you for your kids. I get that. But for me, the natural order of things is for them to take care of me up to a point, and then after a point, I'm supposed to take care of them.

SPEAKER_01 8:50

Yeah. It's a no-brainer for me. Yeah. If they need me, I'm there for them. Yeah. If I can do it, I I'm gonna keep them out of a nursing home. Exactly. If you can't, if if I can, but if I can't, I'm still gonna be showing up. I always was told that if you show up with someone at the nursing home, the people might treat them a little bit better because they know that someone cares about them.

SPEAKER_00 9:11

Yeah. I use that same uh philosophy with my son at schools. I used to show up at school for a lot. Right. And um, that one time that his teacher lost his test was the last time she lost his test. Um she found it and she never lost any of the other ones.

SPEAKER_01 9:29

I had that problem too with my daughter. Yeah, you just need to show up.

SPEAKER_00 9:32

Show up.

SPEAKER_01 9:33

He was trying to fail her, and she was like, Ma, I did my assignment, I did it. And I had to, dear, to whom it may concern. I had to send nice little nasty. Mama's paying attention, sir. So, or ma'am. And then miraculously, oh, I got it.

SPEAKER_00 9:48

Same. She was gonna actually make my child take the test over even after she had found it. She wasn't gonna tell me that she had found it, but I went to the school the next morning with him into the office, and she had left the test in the office for him to take. And I said, No, he took that test already, and he told the the secretary, he told her what the first two problems on the test were. It was a math test. He told her verbatim without looking at the test, what the first two problems were. I love him. How would he have known that? I love him. I was shocked too, because I was like, How do you remember the test butt? He remembered the first two problems, and she was like, Well, let me call her and see. And so when she called the teacher, she came down there and saw that I was in there, and she was like, No, no, I'm so sorry. I meant to tell them I found his test, and then I found out that the reason she found his test is because the principal had been on her. Because when the principal saw the grade that was on his, you know, the mid, it was midterm, it wasn't the end of the some of the nine weeks, it was the middle of it. You know, they send the in interim report report and it had what it had on it. And the principal saw it and she was like, Miss Samuel, at as I was leaving, she came to me and she said, Miss Samuel, I I well, she said Miss Miss Rogers, at the time I was not. Um, and she was like, I just want you to know that I I um she found that test. I knew something was wrong. I went to her and I told her, No, this can't be right. That's why she found this test.

SPEAKER_01 11:19

He was gonna ace it again anyway, so yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:22

She was used to having lunch with my baby, so she she knew something was wrong.

SPEAKER_01 11:26

They'll get over on you if you let them.

SPEAKER_00 11:28

Yeah, you need to just, you know, make an make them know that you know you're paying attention to them.

SPEAKER_01 11:34

This one has somebody that cares about them. They're gonna check on them.

SPEAKER_00 11:37

Yeah. So anyway, that was my little personal thing. Got off on children. But yeah, for me, we are supposed to take care of our elderly andor sick parents. And sometimes that may mean putting them in a home. Yeah. But be there, be there when that happens.

SPEAKER_01 11:55

Visit, check on them. Yeah. Like my mother um had to put my grandmother in a nursing home, but she would go there all the time. We would be up there all the time with her. She would get her clothes and take bring her clothes home and wash them. And because at first she would let them wash them, but then one day she went in and she saw somebody else with my grandmother's clothes on, and she was mad. Right. So from then on, she would get the clothes and bring them home and wash them and bring them back. Bring them back. Yeah. Yeah. Sharing my my parents. Sharing the clothes. No, absolutely not. But if you show them that you care about these people, they'll treat them a little bit better.

SPEAKER_00 12:32

Yeah. I believe so.

SPEAKER_01 12:34

And I don't understand why people get into that line of work if you don't have patience and you don't care. Right. That's not the line of work for you. Because with older people, you really have to have patience.

SPEAKER_00 12:44

Right. It's if I didn't go into, you know, anything like that. It's not that I don't care about people or or you know, it just be for you. It's not for me. And I and so I would never go into it.

SPEAKER_01 12:57

Yeah, I think it's worse than having a little kid. Like, yeah. You really have to have a lot of patience. Yeah. You hear some stories. Yeah. So if it's not for you, please, please do something different. Right. I agree. Yeah, and I read a story about um the uh husband and wife. I think it it must have been the husband's mother was sick and needed to come live with them. But the mother and the wife didn't get along. So they were trying to figure out how they were gonna do how you're gonna handle that.

SPEAKER_00 13:32

Well, I I hate to say it, but somebody's got to bite the bullet. Um I think if she needed help, I think I could look past that.

SPEAKER_01 13:42

Right. Right. I would at least give it a chance for you know, see how it works. Now, if it don't work, I'm gonna be like, I can't live like this in my own house. But I would at least give it a chance.

SPEAKER_00 13:52

She's gonna have to bend too though. Yeah. So it's for me, there are times when an an older person will say something, and I think to myself, try not to take it personal because they are.

SPEAKER_01 14:10

And they don't have any, what's the word I'm looking for?

SPEAKER_00 14:12

They're not sensitive.

SPEAKER_01 14:13

They don't have like a filter. Right, right. Like they're like kids. Kids gonna tell you the truth, old people gonna tell you the truth. Yeah, yeah. If you fat, an old person is gonna tell you your truth. Tell me about it. Anything about you that's wrong, the old per people are gonna do it.

SPEAKER_00 14:29

They will point it out and try not to get your feelings done. They worse than little kids, especially family members. Yeah, yeah. Family members are gonna do it.

SPEAKER_01 14:35

So you got to kind of look past that. And I think older people get a little bit meaner.

SPEAKER_00 14:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:43

So you have to look a little past that too. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:46

Well, I'm I'm pushing a certain age myself, so I'm trying not to.

SPEAKER_01 14:52

I don't think you reached, you haven't reached. I haven't reached that yet. Yeah. I haven't reached the but I'm meaningful.

SPEAKER_00 14:56

I do try to be aware that, you know, I am a little less patient than I was.

SPEAKER_01 15:01

Yeah, I think that's everybody. Yeah. I have less patience too. Please don't try me, because I'm not putting up with anything. Anything that disturbs my peace, I'm letting go of it. I just can't do it. If it bothers me just a little bit, I'm gonna say something about it. And then if it don't change, I am deuces. Gotcha. You will not hear from me. I can't say anything bad about that. Yeah, so I think I think I would let my mother-in-law move in if I had a mother-in-law. I would. I would hope that I would get along with my mother-in-law.

SPEAKER_00 15:36

Yeah, that that part would be a blessing. I when people say, you know, how lucky I am that I like my daughter-in-law, I'm like, what are you saying?

SPEAKER_01 15:46

I mean, you don't like your daughter-in-law. Because they're not used to it. I like a lot of mothers don't like who their sons deal with. I'm finding that out.

SPEAKER_00 15:54

When people ask me how I feel about my son being married, and I'm like, oh, it's just wonderful. I love everything about her, and they're like, How? How is that possible? I don't know why.

SPEAKER_01 16:04

Just need to be real protective of their son.

SPEAKER_00 16:06

I am. I'm very protective of him, as I just demonstrated about the school. Um, but I also allowed him for me, it was important that he be a man. He grow up and be one. He chose this woman. It's and I find nothing objectionable about her. So I'm gonna be the mother-in-law that I hope she she's happy to have.

SPEAKER_01 16:28

There are good women out there. All women are like mothers think all women are bad and out to do some harm to their son. Right. And your son is not always right, yeah, ma'am. Back up, so ma'am. And a lot of mothers take up for their sons when they know their sons be wrong. I've dealt with that firsthand. Like you know your son ain't about nothing. Exactly. And you still defend him. Yeah. Now I had a son, I'm gonna be like, I'm I'm always for right or wrong. If you're right, I'm gonna be with you. But if you wrong, I'm gonna let you know you're wrong. I hate to tell you this, but you wrong. Yep. Yep. That's the best way. I'm like that with everybody. My daughter, my parents, my sister. Yeah. If you're wrong, I'm gonna tell you.

SPEAKER_00 17:15

I got no problem. I think everybody should be like that.

SPEAKER_01 17:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:18

You love your family, but how much do you love them if you can't correct them?

SPEAKER_01 17:23

So, what about like people say, like, if they're um saying something against your spouse out in public, do you defend them there no matter what? And then when you get home, correct them?

SPEAKER_00 17:38

Okay, you mean like if someone is is my spouse with me? Or somebody's talking about my spouse.

SPEAKER_01 17:44

Either, either. Okay. Maybe something's going on with your spouse and someone else. Okay. Do you take your spouse's side there? And then when you get home, be like, oh, you was wrong.

SPEAKER_00 17:56

Well, my main thing is if the issue is between them and my spouse, then they need to be taking care of that, not me. Now I will discuss it with him if he wants to talk about it and if I have an opinion about it. But I usually talk to, you know, I would talk to him about it. I wouldn't try to mediate between the two of them.

SPEAKER_01 18:17

I hear a lot of people saying don't go against your spouse uh out in public.

SPEAKER_00 18:21

Like Okay, okay. I get I get the out in well, it depends on what he's doing. I mean, like if he's trying to fight somebody, I'm gonna correct that. Sure.

SPEAKER_01 18:29

What are you doing? You know what I'm saying? I don't know how I feel about that.

SPEAKER_00 18:32

I don't have a spouse, but yeah, no, I don't, I don't for me, it it's similar to like delayed punishment or delayed whatever. If if the situation is over and then I say something about it later, is it as effective as if I did it correctly? Yeah, in the moment. So I guess it depends on what it is and how you do it.

SPEAKER_01 18:54

So you don't believe in punishing a child after the fact either?

SPEAKER_00 18:57

I don't like that. I feel like if you see them doing something wrong, correct it then.

SPEAKER_01 19:01

That's how I am.

SPEAKER_00 19:01

Yeah, and if you don't, then leave it alone. Because some people like build it up. You don't know. I don't I don't like that. I like because I think people learn better when they're in the situation than if you go back and talk to them later. Because part of my thing is, well, why didn't you say something then? You know, as a even as a child, I'm like, if why didn't you say something?

unknown 19:22

Yeah, I think that's it.

SPEAKER_00 19:23

At least a little bit of doubt.

SPEAKER_01 19:24

Yeah. Do it right then and there.

SPEAKER_00 19:26

Yeah. And I don't um like I said, I don't think disagreeing with your spouse is the same thing as disrespecting your spouse.

SPEAKER_01 19:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:33

You two are human beings, separate, individual people.

SPEAKER_01 19:36

A lot of people say, don't do it in public though. If you're in public, you go with your spouse and then behind closed doors.

SPEAKER_00 19:43

If my spouse goes and says something totally just absolutely crazy, and I let that go in public, I'd feel bad. I'd feel bad for him that he he especially if he's going on and on and he just on and on wrong, and I'm letting him go on and on wrong.

SPEAKER_01 19:59

Or you uh defending him like, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:01

Yeah. Not if he's wrong. Yeah, okay. And I don't think he would do the same. I I don't think he would do that with me either. If I was wrong, there like I said, there's a way to do it. You don't have to be disrespectful about it.

SPEAKER_01 20:14

But um, yeah, there's a way. I just threw that in there, it came to mind.

SPEAKER_00 20:18

Yeah, it's something to think about. Yeah.

unknown 20:20

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 20:22

So we both in agreement so we're gonna take care of our parents.

SPEAKER_00 20:26

Let's take care of our parents, people.

SPEAKER_01 20:28

And not put them in a nursing home if we can help it.

SPEAKER_00 20:30

If you can help it. And if you do, visit them for God's sake. Go see them. I know I know that everybody gets busy, but you need to drop in there because they need to see familiar and and loving faces.

SPEAKER_01 20:44

I think it helps them too. With this situation, like if they're if they're already sick and down and no one's coming to see them, you have nowhere else to go but brother down. Yeah. So yeah. Take care of your parents' people. You only get one mother and father.

SPEAKER_00 21:04

All right, Michelle. Yes, ma'am.

SPEAKER_01 21:08

What's going on in this world that we live in?

SPEAKER_00 21:11

Um a lot. Well, we're still at war, or we're in an incursion or an excursion, or whatever word they want to use for it this time. Um, this week. Uh the Also they use a new word for it? Yeah, yeah, because the question uh it has arisen of whether or not a war can be started without Congress, because Congress didn't sanction this war. And um I don't have the Constitution in front of me, people, but uh I've heard people reading from the Constitution where it says that Congress has the power.

SPEAKER_01 21:46

So my question is, if it wasn't agreed upon uh with Congress, why is it still going on? Why is it being funded?

SPEAKER_00 21:54

It it raises the question of why did it even start? If you know what I'm saying, if Congress didn't Sanction it. So I think because a lot of norms are not considered normal anymore. And that has, you know, why I think the the norms have been challenged so hard and so um thoroughly. Like almost every thing that I grew up with that I was taught yeah back in the 80s when I was in school, there are things that were in our history books and you know things about the government that we took in government economics class. Yeah, and and I don't think those things changed. I think that they're just letting people walk all over it. Yeah. And a part of the reason, you know, I always go kind of jokingly say it's all Barack Obama's fault, because you know, he he scared a lot of people, seeing that that much confidence and that much intelligence and that much respect being given to somebody like him. And I think it scared a lot of people. And so then now they're just taking anything they can get, as long as it's not someone like him.

SPEAKER_01 23:06

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 23:07

Maybe that's just my theory.

SPEAKER_01 23:08

That's your theory. It might be you might be onto something. Yeah, that's just my theory.

SPEAKER_00 23:12

But yeah, this one but that's really sad. Like yeah. It it's really sad when you think about it. It makes me sad. I I get mad too, but it makes it makes me sad that the that uh we had one. It was one president in all these. Don't destroy the country because we had one. Please stop it. That's all I'm saying. Just stop with the pretending that you don't know that he's not qualified. Yeah, and and not just that, that that every that the things that he's doing are not normal. They're not normal. I mean, taking over the press or trying to. Even um Pete Heggseth just said in uh in one of his um rants because he was angry with them for, I guess, having the audacity to report accurately on the right. And he was like, I'll be, I think he was on angry with CNN at the time, and he was saying something like um, he was gonna be glad when Ellison took over or something like that, because I think someone is in the process of trying to buy that network or something like that. Yeah, and so it to me that he it was just an admit an admission that they want to take over the airwaves so that they can just say and do whatever they want to and nobody will question it. Nobody will know. That's terrifying.

SPEAKER_01 24:42

That's what it is. They want to do what they do behind closed doors, and no one's gonna know. Nobody's gonna report on it. The people who are on their side is not gonna report on stuff.

unknown 24:51

Right.

SPEAKER_00 24:52

And that to me, when he said that, it it chilled me a little bit because I was like, oh my God, he's admitting what you're doing.

SPEAKER_01 24:58

I mean that you know that they're up to no good. Yeah. Because if you don't want people to tell the truth and the facts, what's going on?

SPEAKER_00 25:06

What's going on? And to me, it also points uh a finger at the fact that they know that what they're doing is wrong. Because when they do it right, you're not trying to hide it and you're not angry about it. How are you angry that they are reporting about service men and women? Those people certainly, as far as I'm concerned, deserve to be talked about, to be reported on, and they deserve our respect.

SPEAKER_01 25:33

So they want us to think that there's people going over there and none of our people are gonna get hurt. Yes, they're not supposed to report on it. That's crazy. It's it's I really think we're in a twilight zone. I wish, because then we'd have a chance of getting out of it. I feel like we're in a twilight zone or a parody or something. Like it has to be better not live on steroids. Yeah. Like you're just picking people off the street to run a whole country.

SPEAKER_00 25:58

Speaking of which, 24-year-olds. What's his name? Let me see. Oh, should we, well, uh, I was gonna say, should we save that for the next time? Um, because like um, I was talking about the war, and I wanted to mention that um it's being reported that Russia is actually um helping Iran. You know, our our president has a wonderful relationship with Putin. They're tight, best friends. BFFs. It's being reported that Putin is not only helping them, but they are also giving them intel on the United States.

unknown 26:42

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 26:43

Now that's being reported. I'm gonna need y'all to go back and um it don't shock me. As I always say, when I say something, please go back, look it up yourself, get your own understanding of it. Yeah, get your own clue facts, yeah. Get your own understanding of it, but try to understand. Don't be like, well, maybe this or maybe that. Look at the facts. There's no maybes in that when you look at facts. You know, well, maybe he meant to say, but that's not what he said. And people who only speak English should be well well versed in how to communicate. If you speak in English and I speak English, I should not need an interpreter in between us to tell me what you meant. Well, he always changed up what he said.

SPEAKER_01 27:27

You said what you said, sir. I didn't mean it like that. Or his little cleanup girl would come and be like, that's not what he meant. That Bondy girl.

unknown 27:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:37

And she. It seems like everyone in that, they just all mad. Like, y'all mad for no reason. Like, why are y'all still mad? You got the power. You're where you are. And you're still mad. She's I hate to see her up there talking. That's what I I really don't watch the news. I try not to watch the news. It gets me down and depresses me. So I I don't watch the news.

SPEAKER_00 28:01

You have to take a break from it, I don't know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:04

I don't watch it at all. I try not to watch it. I'll get little clips here and there, but I don't just sit down and watch the entire program all the way through. It can be a little much. I'll be hitting a bottle. It can be a lot. Because when you think about it, it's enough to make you want to take a drink. Yeah, definitely. Definitely.

unknown 28:23

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 28:24

Anything else you want to throw in there?

SPEAKER_00 28:26

I know. No, I just wanted to throw that in about the the Russian help. Wanted to make sure people knew that.

SPEAKER_01 28:36

I read a little something where they said that Iran said they're gonna widen the the war. So I guess they're gonna reach out further.

SPEAKER_00 28:44

Expand. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:46

Yeah. Um oh, and they threatened um your president too. Yeah. You should have saw the comments. I was about to say, what a shame.

SPEAKER_00 28:56

The comments were crazy. I mean, honestly, we accidentally bombed a girls' school. I mean, what do we think they could do?

SPEAKER_01 29:06

Did you say it was their fault? It was their fault.

SPEAKER_00 29:08

He tried to say it was, but it even their even our own U.S. investigation. But how could it be their fault? Right, because they don't they don't have tomahawks as far as anybody knows, and far as as far as our Intel fail. I think he meant to do that. Well, they're saying that it was they were working on old Intel. Well, sir, why were you working on old Intel? You know what year it is. Thank you. You would have had better Intel if you hadn't gotten rid of all the competent people.

SPEAKER_01 29:35

Something as serious as bombing something, you need to be checking it.

SPEAKER_00 29:40

And up to date.

SPEAKER_01 29:40

Yeah, checking it twice, three, four times.

SPEAKER_00 29:45

But they keep stressing that um it's not the United States' um policy to target, deliberately target um civilians. Civilians. But you did. But they say it was an accident. And you know, if it were any other president, and y'all, y'all understand I I try to stress each show how I feel about this particular president. So you have to take what I say um about this situation with a grain of salt and go check for yourself. The way I feel, I wouldn't put it past him.

SPEAKER_01 30:21

Past him, yeah. I feel that way too.

SPEAKER_00 30:23

That's the way I've all I'm sorry. I never felt that way about any of our presidents.

SPEAKER_01 30:29

Yeah, I never thought that they would just do something just to do it.

SPEAKER_00 30:32

Because we were we we were always supposed to be better, right? That's what they they teach our children.

SPEAKER_01 30:37

We've always had politicians as presidents, and politicians and slightly decent people.

SPEAKER_00 30:43

Yeah, even the ones you don't don't agree with. Yeah, you might not be able to do that. Right. I mean, empathy. No president has been perfect. Empathy, sympathy, yeah, just common decency, almost all of them had some level of that.

SPEAKER_01 30:59

And like, no one else burns me. You want to name everything after you.

SPEAKER_00 31:04

Oh, yeah. What he doesn't understand is it has very little effect when you name something after yourself. Yeah. Kennedy didn't name the Kennedy Center after himself. Someone else named it. People chose to do that. You see what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 31:21

He's so full of himself. He wanted everything to be named after him. George Washington didn't put his face on that.

SPEAKER_00 31:27

On my rushmore. Somebody else did. Because of the great person that they considered him to be. Now, we can talk about all the other stuff and and how I feel about the slave owners and and this, that, and the other. Yes. But somebody else still chose to put that per that face up there. He did. But no one's never gonna do that for him. No, not unless it's people who are under duress. And I I feel like a lot of people that are just being so self-effacing and and and just sucking up to him and just saying all these wonderful things, like he's the best president that the country has ever had in my lifetime. Mr. President, you are the smartest man, you are the sexiest man, you are the most handsome man, you have the best hair man. All those people. He knows they're lying. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:14

Because ain't no way someone told him he has good hair. I'll find it for you and let you see. I'll find it for you and let you see. No way. Handsome. Mm-hmm. Sexy. What he needs to do is go somewhere and sit down and retire and enjoy his retirement life. That's what he needs to do. But he's um he's past that now.

SPEAKER_00 32:39

And I think there should be an age limit also for presidents. For president, right? If you can't like, isn't there a an age limit when it comes to how old you have to be? Like a 24-year-old can't be our president, right? Yeah. Okay, so yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:56

And there should be term like age is 30 something? 36?

SPEAKER_00 32:59

30. Is it 34 or 36? I'm not quite sure. I know what's going on. It's somewhere in the 30s. Yeah. So if we can have a start limit, maybe we should have a stuff.

SPEAKER_01 33:08

Yeah, I think maybe 60 something. Yeah. I mean somewhere in there.

SPEAKER_00 33:14

Where the retirement age should have stayed. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:19

Somewhere in there. 62, 65. By the time I retire, it ain't gonna be no retirement age.

SPEAKER_00 33:25

Yeah, well, um, I've heard some people um float the idea of the fact that why are old people retiring anyway? I'm like, come on now, man. No, why?

SPEAKER_01 33:36

Because n people don't want to hire old people. So why can't they retire?

SPEAKER_00 33:41

And there are certain things that I feel like they they shouldn't have to do after a certain amount of time. I feel like it's you worked all your life. The retirement age used to be 55, and it could have stayed there if our government had done what they were supposed to do with the monies and had at least put it back when they took it out of Social Security. So I know it ain't gonna be nothing there when I get ready for it. No, they're finding all kinds of ways to take money now and put it in offshore accounts where only one person has access to it. But you know, that was a just a little mumble that I threw in there.

SPEAKER_01 34:17

It's fine. I'm gonna have to find me a husband and put our two and two together, cuz it's hard enough.

SPEAKER_00 34:23

I'm there. And it's hard. It's still hard. Hello, help us.

SPEAKER_01 34:31

All right, Michelle. All right, Michelle. That was a great show. I think so. I enjoyed it. I hope you guys did. Yeah, once again, I need y'all to take care of your parents. Please. Yes. They loved on you, love on them. And once again, you can reach us at row five of the clock podcast at yellow. And we will see y'all next week. Bye.