Religion is another form of oppression W/Russell

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SPEAKER_01 0:00

People from the US are not smart. So I expect you to be very smart, you know.

SPEAKER_02 0:07

How organized college across the whole board was just very performative way than it was genuine.

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Kindly unfiltered. We will drive. We will fade. Who are we gonna say? It is unfiltered.

SPEAKER_01 0:36

Hello, welcome back to a new episode of Kindly Unfiltered. I am still your O say, and then I have with me the troublesome Wilson. And uh today we're gonna be talking about religion, and to help us with this topic on the couch is Russell all the way from the US sitting with money in the BD. All the way from the US America. All the way from the place where IC is waiting, everybody. All the way from the land of trauma, Madam Madam, Madam Trauma. Welcome, Russell.

SPEAKER_00 1:16

How are you doing, Russell?

SPEAKER_01 1:20

I know how do you find Canada? You don't like Canada because Canada the first world country. Oh, you said that I knew they were here in India. You will try to be black in the USA. You said that you try to be a black man in the US.

SPEAKER_02 1:34

I don't have a problem in Canada. I have a I have more problems with how the roads are constructed, how the signs are not. How? Yeah, board enough.

SPEAKER_01 1:43

Do you want it to be? Yeah, very civilized. Yeah, very civilized. What do you run into? Why would you get there regardless? It's so easy to. Because when you're jumping out today, we'll just easily.

SPEAKER_02 2:00

It's just so easy to miss your exit, and then the next thing you're driving at additional 16, 20 minutes.

SPEAKER_01 2:05

I mean, I think our rules are usually not built for like people from the USA, because um you're people from the USA are not smart. So our rules are beautiful for smart people, and I expect you to be very smart, you know? I have nice roles. Yes, God. So I was going to Canada. I mean, we're nice. Well, that was really nice. Wasn't that nice? Yeah, yes, no, because you cannot it's you cannot undervalue us. Yes. We are smart people. Period. Everything is slowly slow today, waste the ways. It's not by the US. And that is why you were able to vote in someone like Trump about that. Okay, uh, moving on. Yeah, so I said I wanted to I mean, like, on this podcast for this particular um episode because I know that uh you we share the same like belief on religion and the same standpoint. So what at all? So me, I don't share the same belief with more religion. You know, you have like a very traditional belief on religion. Ooh, that's not the truth. Like we've had conversations about religion. But your standards. I mean, of course, I'll I will never I'd rather never talk about religion because I was thinking you're gonna get into that conversation. Well, yeah, I don't feel yeah. So um I just you know, I just want to like stand off, like start up with like a conversation where they said, like, for you, when do you think, when did you know that religion was not it for you? Like, what was that in for you? So did you ask him if religion was it for him? No, I know it is not. Uh huh. Yeah, I told you that. Yeah, because we have the same belief. So for our viewers, so to perfect sense, high religion? No. Russell is not religious, so um, yeah. So, Russell, what was that incident? What happened that changed your that made you take like a 360 uh belief on religion?

SPEAKER_02 3:58

I think I've always been very irreligious, even though I grew up in your weakness home. I grew up in a very religious household. You have a weakness, not in the biography. Um and I saw how organized religion across all boards was just very performative. Right. Then it was genuine. And across all boards it felt very transactional. You know, like people were for me, I always just believe that it's a religion in itself is a misguided, what's the name, psychological experiment that took a horrible turn as a moment, you know, and a bunch of individuals along the road decided, oh, I don't like how this person does it, so I must set up my own and come up with my interpretation of what I believe the Bible is. Right. And then another white person, another white man, predominantly always no white men, um, decides, oh, I don't like how this person, so I'm gonna set up the Methodist church, or another person says, oh, I want to do Pentecostal or Seventh Adventure.

SPEAKER_01 5:06

Right. Jehovah's Witness.

SPEAKER_02 5:08

Different version of so everyone comes up with their idea or interpretation of what the Bible is and run along with it, but then I think the part that really um gets to me is how everyone believes their idea of God is better than the other person's idea of God. Right. So fit Newton. I think it's more humanity for me. Um if you look at a lot of a lot of history shows how religion, even till date, I mean, look at the present situation of America in the world author, um a lot of the actions and inactions, look at Palestine and all of those things, are guided by religion. Look at all of the major wars that has happened in human history. It's been backed by either the Catholic Church or, you know, having to pray for the ammunition to kill the other enemy. Right. Then you come around and tell me God is love. What was the concept of love when you were? Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 6:07

Yeah. And then and and yeah, another just to add to your point, there's something that you know Christians say, like, whenever they are praying, which pisses me off, like just for your point that says uh they feel like their God is better than your God. Um when um let's say uh an accident happens, they go, Oh my god, thank God. Oh, Father Lord, I pray that I'm sorry for your son that died. Except that it doesn't happen to be that person. You're using that person's agony as your point. In every concept. In everything give change. In everything gives sense. So are the are the express of other person, are the express of your neighbor. Well, like I said, in everything give changes. That is why I said a lot of times you have like this ideology of religion that is very traditional. From traditional, but freedom.

SPEAKER_02 6:54

Yeah, very African. And I think that that also, that also, I I no, no shade, but every shade there is. And how that also speaks to the colonial trends that a lot of Africans and Nigerians and black people are still immersed in and are still held down by.

SPEAKER_01 7:13

Yeah, so um, I think my next question would be like for you. Do you think um religion adds a lot to play racism?

SPEAKER_02 7:24

Oh, certainly. Certainly. Um Religion and the white man's belief of superiority is the only reason why they come into Africa. Yep. And still a fact. Still your gods, put them in museums. Exactly, and make them look at it and then, you know, make it look like cool art pieces to keep in museums across the world, but sell you this idea of this imaginary friend that you do not know. And it reminds me of this quote that talks about God is the name of a blanket, you know, we put over mystery just to give it shape. You know, it's the idea that Aristotle. You're a terrible person. And you need to be doing So prior to prior to colonialism, at least you need to go to an Ogun shrine or an Ifar temple or whatever it is that you believe in. Yeah. Which again, you know, but then at least you could see them. Right. And so the white man comes, tries to take your lands and everything, but then gives you a placeholder for hope. Gives you a placeholder for of some sort of an anchor. Yeah. And then sells you this. Oh, I don't know who this person is. You know, a couple of persons has written us a books and then we edit it then.

SPEAKER_01 8:45

But is there a substance of hoped for but not seen? Period. I've been a fate. Oh shit. Yeah, hope and fate are quite similar. Yeah, quite similar, but you're hoping for it, but you're not seeing it.

SPEAKER_02 8:56

But then the idea of that hope is what they sold to a lot of people over the years. Look at Africa, look at Nigeria specifically, where the system just doesn't work. It's built not to work by your colonial masters. Exactly. You know, but then everywhere there's a church. You know, at least around the world we have over the.

SPEAKER_01 9:13

Mind you, just to sorry for cutting you. Yeah. There is a church and they're all successful. Allegedly. No, they are they are successful. Are they though? Yeah, make it match.

SPEAKER_02 9:28

The funny thing is, I attended a deeper life school growing in Nigeria. Wow. You just you you just had a mix of horrible.

SPEAKER_00 9:38

Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_01 9:39

So what shape feels where you are today? Because that's basically because you saw the inside of both words.

SPEAKER_02 9:47

I mean, I wasn't really willing to see the inside of everything. Um just game because it was. My grandmother was Muslim. She went to Mecca. Um my grandfather was an apostle from the apostolic church. Funny. My mom grows up in that environment and becomes a Jehovah's Witness is the environment that I grew up in. And no threat to anyone, but um, there was no, it felt very performative for me. Right. You know, having to live up to an expectation, familial, societal, religious expectations. And it becomes so untrue to you at the end of the day that you feel stripped of your own identity because you're having to keep an act, keep a performance up, you know. Um, I mean, okay. But yeah, um, I think the part where I became more convinced about being irreligious was where you observe across the board how all of these religions and their belief systems are still stripped of humanity. Right. It's still stripped of human decency, right?

SPEAKER_01 10:54

Stripped of kindness.

SPEAKER_02 10:56

Kindness.

SPEAKER_01 10:57

Yeah. Which is what's the thing. I mean, say God is love. And God, this the way they push God, God is not actually love. So, like, I want to get also your perspective.

SPEAKER_02 11:05

Let's talk about God is love for a minute. Oh, okay. How is God love when you have children with cancer?

SPEAKER_01 11:11

Um, so I think the idea, the idea, okay. So, question before we go there. Because I before I make my point, this will also lead to my point. Are you are you just not religious? Are you spiritual or you're not? I would say I'm more spiritual than I am remote. So do you believe that there is like an eye of power in somewhere? God knows where they are.

SPEAKER_02 11:31

I mean, I I'd suppose. Uh, but I think for me, humanity is more of a religion for me. It's in the way that I would show up. You know, if if this Bible says we're in his image, you don't make a copy of a photo and then it's subpart to the photo. Black and white. You know. Um so I believe every human is God, and so it's in the way that you that I show up for the people that matter around me.

SPEAKER_01 11:57

It's in the little things in the I hear you, but my question is um do you believe like there's a there's an IR power somewhere there? That's a power. Yeah. Because that's what I believe as well. And what's the higher power? God. That's what I'm saying. Like if it's if the person I mean, because just the way just the way you were giving Russell, I I believe if that higher power is called God, I would reference to that person as God. God. Do you get what I'm saying? Yeah. So I mean, I know that there's a like a lot of like things turned. Or you're saying we have gods in human form. But your God might not be my God. Yeah, but your God is in human form. Like, you see, because you said that you see human beings as God. And it's in the way that I treat them.

SPEAKER_02 12:37

It's in the way that I will respect every human. Yeah. Who they are. I'm not trying to pick or judge, you know. I'm not, I'm not doing the Christian love because I've come to realize that there's no greater hate than the Christian love.

SPEAKER_01 12:54

You know, but I feel like you're he seems to say you're spiritual. I mean, you came from a very religious background. So I mean, so will you say religion guide your spirituality?

unknown 13:05

No.

SPEAKER_01 13:06

No.

SPEAKER_02 13:10

I think my personal values guide my spirituality. Okay, and I my personal values.

SPEAKER_00 13:17

Is it your question?

SPEAKER_02 13:18

Is it your question? I'm asking you. My personal values can again, my idea of spirituality. Um because I think to every religion there's an idea of morality. Right. And that is why certain religions will consider um black people as less human. Right. Um, and that's because that's the interpretation of God. And certain religions will consider um white people as not to be in their space or anything. Because, but then again, everyone carries around their own idea of God.

SPEAKER_01 13:48

Just also to your point, I think we black people also feel that by also idealizing white people. Like if you go to churches right now, go to churches in Nigeria or Africa or anywhere. See a white person once a white priest, or a white person hanging in their church as Jesus. If I say anything, I get I could get killed. Actually, there's no very Jesus. Actually, because I grew up there in the world. No, there's never there's never been a project of church that is. And even Marina White. Yes, everything jump everything. Mind you, these people, according to the history, they are from like um eastern part of the world, um, like um all this Palestine or Israel, that's where they are from. After God. But they the the image of Jesus and God that they've painted to people is white. It's really white. And that is why I want to ask you, why are you like, what is your perspective of being traditional Christian because or religious? What what what form your conviction? Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving. What is where is this? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

SPEAKER_02 14:50

Wait, great. Is it the Nigerian idea of Thanksgiving or the American notes?

SPEAKER_01 14:55

No, no, no, I mean, like I said, in everything gift. That's so, like you said, if an accident happened, I mean, of course, I'm not saying I'm not- You were derailing from the question. Why are you traditionally religious? Like, is there something that convinced you, like, oh yeah, this is my path? No, for me, I'm not religious, though. And you just said you are traditionally religious. No, like no, but I'm not religious because same thing also, God is love. I'm sorry, no, I mean, let me think gifting, right? And be kind, be good, and that's my own. Be morally, I mean, act upright, morally, of course. I agree with you.

SPEAKER_02 15:34

What is your idea of acting upright?

SPEAKER_01 15:36

Knowing what is good and what is bad. Okay, now that you mentioned that's so debatable. Yeah, so what determines what is good and what is bad? Exactly. You, whatever you call sin. So you can do that. No, for me, me, I mean I believe whatever you call sin is sin to you. That is that's you taking it back to religion. That's my personal one. Whatever my call sin. I mean, if I if if I say being gay is not a sin for myself, that's not a sin to me. Okay, yeah. But and who told that's my problem. Like, a religion told you that it's a sin, meaning you're still subscribed to the standard of that religion. I shall say I'm not religious.

unknown 16:10

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 16:10

Exactly. So if you're not religious, you would not consider like something like being gay or being um whatever. No, it's never about being gay. I'm not saying like personally, yeah, that's a that's an example. Being a sin to you is a sin to you. And what I didn't even even try to tell you, oh, prayer against this person. If I feel like, oh, that's necessary, I'm not playing against this. I mean, if I steal it, it's not a sin to me. It's not a sense to me. My dear, if you steal, it's it's it's it's it's not good morally.

SPEAKER_02 16:33

But can we talk about the fact that you know this your idea of morality is shaped by the religion? Religion. Because the same religion tells you you're provided with free will. Exactly. That God created you with free will, right? Exactly. But then you do something outside the scope of that religion. Yeah, and you're condemned to eternal damnation. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:58

Well, that's my own thing whereby it's not the religion, whatever religion says a sin, it's not a sin to me. Yeah. Like my own personal belief. Is what and that is why I actually have a problem with people. Whenever, like, oh, when when they're like a debate about religion, no, I have a problem.

SPEAKER_02 17:14

It's a debate. It's a more like, no, it's more for me. It's like your idea of God or your God is not my God. Yeah. But I respect your God. As long as you're not trying to convince, which is always a staple with a lot of religious people to their own. The moment you do not oblige by their idea or religion is kind of like it's either they get really offended or they're trying to enforce that idea onto you.

SPEAKER_01 17:41

Yeah, I hate the fact that the Bible has become like the moral standard of you know, you know, assessing people or like judging people. Yes. And I think a lot of the the rules and laws that we have in this world is literally guided by the Bible, which is which is to me not great. And that was I have a problem with that.

SPEAKER_02 17:59

And that was how uh slavery was allowed to go on for years. Exactly. Colonialism. Oh. Which again, I think the whole the whole idea of the Bible was just a bunch of poets and it's just like out of like they added it and make sense.

SPEAKER_01 18:17

Well, the bug is like a storybook, if you read it to your understanding.

SPEAKER_02 18:20

Yeah, but that storybook, some of these things are not true. As as someone who even got baptized as a Jehovah's Witness.

SPEAKER_01 18:28

Let me tell you something. My father is a reverend, my mother is a pastor, Mrs. I saw the inside of everything that religion has to offer. So if you wait, wait, hold on. So I if you're I mean, I mean but both of you actually. I mean, you guys had, you know, once of course, like you said, very similar. You guys had like you know, we had your mother was a Christ, I mean your mother was a Jehovah's Witness, or that you was a your mother was a Muslim, and you grew up like in a very, you know, religious home. So would you say if that didn't happen, what would be, will you have the same take on religion? No, I think it um if you didn't grow up in your deal. I think I probably would have arrived at the same point where I am because my I wasn't pushed out to find out my own journey if I was like my my queerness pushed me out. Because if I wasn't queer, that would be the answer. I probably wouldn't have, you know, taken the journey of like finding out what religion meant to me. I would have continued on that road of oh, Jesus is God convincing people going on evangelism. If I wasn't queer, to be very honest, I probably wouldn't have like had like a different take on religion. So if that's so if you're I think your queer awakening kind of shape to queerness actually awakened my religious part.

SPEAKER_02 19:38

And do you think that's because the religion that you grew up with and around stripped you of your identity as a queer person?

SPEAKER_01 19:45

100%. 1000%.

SPEAKER_02 19:48

Trinity was such despice and disdain as if you were not worthy of being loved.

SPEAKER_01 19:55

Exactly. And that was why I had to go on the journey of like finding myself. I questioned everything. I'm like, and the fact that I under I went under like deliverance for like seven years of my life. So that is what religion did to me. Tore me apart to make me for a for a Bible verse that's for a religion that said God made you in his image and you're perfect. So it made me feel like I'm not perfect. Like God made a mistake on me to I think there's a lot of debriefing to do about religion, but unfortunately we don't have the time to do that. No, you know, you're not asking. You asked your question. I was like, asked it behind camera. If we do not grow up, yes, oh true, true. Yes, would would you have the same belief on religion? Or I can't answer.

SPEAKER_02 20:37

I played the little cards that life has dealt me, and that's what I'm still doing. And I think playing with those cards is what has brought me here. Who knows? I might have had a different outcome if I probably didn't grow up in a very religious household.

SPEAKER_01 20:50

Right. I would say before we go to the dilemma, we have an oath that we want you to take. So you raise your which one is your right hand? Uh another one now. You say I your name. I Russell. I Russell, solemnly, solemnly swear.

SPEAKER_02 21:07

Solemnly swear.

SPEAKER_01 21:08

To spill the tea.

SPEAKER_02 21:10

To spill the tea and nothing but the tea. And nothing but the tea.

SPEAKER_01 21:14

See, that's the U part. No, don't I don't get the part. Anyways, you guys sent what do you have for us, Wilson? Yeah. You guys sent in your dilemmas, and of course, I want to read it. This one sounds juicy. You guys, boyfriend, girlfriend, boyfriend, girlfriend. You said help. Uh came with help. Cry for help. My boyfriend can't get it up.

SPEAKER_03 21:37

Ahin's wicked action.

SPEAKER_01 21:48

Important. Anyways, I'm really I'm really struggling. My boyfriend hasn't been able to get intimate for about a month now, girl. I'm encouraged, I'm I I've encouraged him to visit a clinic, but he keeps Avoiding it and blaming work. I'm feeling sexually deprived, but I don't want to cheat. I don't know how to handle this. I'm said, stop. Girl, you better cheat. Oh wow, no. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:09

Interesting take.

SPEAKER_01 22:11

No, I'm not done though. I mean, to be honest, you said you've been trying to encourage me to go to the clinic. But this is this clinical abbe is because maybe it has been damaged. What would they just do in the clinic? No, so it looks like so. What he said, my boyfriend has not been able to get it uh month. So meaning probably he was able to do that prior. Prior, yeah. So it's just that at that point development. I mean, I want to, I mean, he said work. Well, which kind of work person would do you know, get them up. Or maybe you're not even socially appealing to him anymore. Again, there's also that I say what I said. I I would say that um maybe you help him find time. Wow, wow, wow, that's what you're gonna do. I would say that maybe schedule sale for him, try to figure it out because um clinics are open on Saturdays. But you know, other things are bit like I don't like I I think even if you go to the clinic, you would rather damage it more. No, damage it? Yeah, because what remedy do they have to get your pennies up?

SPEAKER_02 23:18

Um okay, so someone who has a bit of a medical background, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:21

No, alright. I mean they're gonna be a good background.

SPEAKER_02 23:25

Because I think um oftentimes we we stigmatize erectile dysfunction and not realize that there are causative factors such as stress. Stress. Uh like she mentioned said work style choices or it could just be that this person, again, some people experience different things, and maybe he is experiencing a very tough face or depression. She talks about work, so it could be stress to this person. And I mean, that's what I could speak about. And as for getting uh Western medical evaluation, yeah. I think that's important because it helps you determine what's going on. Exactly. I think age also plays a factor in a bunch of other things, but Oh, that's true.

SPEAKER_01 24:12

Maybe the person she's dating is an old man. No, but I say as it gets older, your liberty is also increasing. No, that's what I'm saying. Like, maybe what I heard.

SPEAKER_02 24:19

A legend.

SPEAKER_01 24:19

I mean That's how you see most of all these old men, they they get turned on by little girls. Because uh that should still not be justified. That is not true. I mean, I'm not gonna justify that. I'm not sure they says I mean because I was like, why do old people always go over little girls? Why are they not seeing? I'm like, oh, as they get older, their limit is getting higher.

SPEAKER_02 24:39

When we talk about little girls, please let's be very specific.

SPEAKER_01 24:42

Do you mean younger than children? Not younger adults. Perfect. So not no pushing pedo here. We're not still file the colour. This is not a Trump depending. They just said like as you get older, your libid is getting because I was like, ah, he's supposed to look less, it's supposed to be less. But they said it's all this as an evil. Yeah. So I'm not even well age, but I mean, of course, get medical help. Maybe there might be something that the guy is hiding. Yeah, so I feel like maybe this gate. Okay, I don't know if you're a girl or a guy, but maybe you're also being too pushy. Like, try to talk to him. I think they have spoken. That is why. No, but she says someone says she's sexually deprived. I mean, sexual.

SPEAKER_02 25:26

She's the car see or eat. We talk about we talk about mental health, physical health. Yeah. But some people would never talk about sexual. I think it's a topic that we're not necessarily talking about. Exactly. So it's important for, I would say, for this person to either go see a doctor or evaluate the, you know, certain cauciated factors around them, especially in resources. Maybe it could be the overwhelmed at work, or it could be they just had a high intake of alcohol in more recent times. Or it could be a couple other factors. I wouldn't say don't, don't, don't.

SPEAKER_01 26:04

Yeah, I also feel like your relationship is built on um fair sex. Because if not now, no. I mean, you know, I'm not sure. I feel like if you're complaining a month not of not having sex with you. Baby, what do you mean? Someone says sexually deprived. You know what I'm saying? Like, you don't have sex in a relationship. I do, but you can't. I mean, can you do that? So you you can go a month without sex? Of course. When we are all busy. Well, you're all busy with every 24 hours a day. Um seven days a week? Yes. Even if even if another, even if anytime sat, I mean, make out. What the um this man needs to get out. No, I mean, make out sex soon. No, that's what I'm saying. Like, I think sometimes your relationship gets to the point where you like, you know that, oh, we are busy when it's time. I think a lot for a month. No, that's what I'm telling you. A lot of people fantasize about relationships of oh, when I get into a relationship, it's gonna be every day. No, it's not. It can't be every day, definitely. There's nothing to be every day. There's sometimes you will not even you will go in months without having sex because you're busy. And sometimes that's not piping. Like huddle, make out. Probably, but that's what I'm saying. She's saying she wants sex. They probably are doing that as she wants sex.

SPEAKER_02 27:14

Okay. Do you get what I'm saying? While she wants something, doesn't mean the other person wants it.

SPEAKER_01 27:19

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 27:20

Um, I would say to the person who has the situation. She would say it's it. I don't want to say, don't blame it on work. How long is your relationship? How long is your relationship going on forward? Now that did not state. Um I'm even saying she. Why are you still doing that? That's that's why I used it. They, you know, um evaluate certain things. Clinical environmental. Apart from the clinical, have a conversation with this person. Exactly. Have a conversation with them. Um at the same time, evaluate maybe you guys are still in a relationship. Um I was saying this.

SPEAKER_01 27:52

But look at it, that's what I'm saying. Just have a conversation.

SPEAKER_02 27:56

Because um men oftentimes as a rel as a result of their ego feel very uncomfortable talking about things around sexual health and the regardless function. And it's always important not to make them even feel worse about it. So have a conversation, be empathetic with your conversations, please. Don't, don't, don't.

SPEAKER_01 28:15

I still I genuinely still feel like the relationship is based on sex. I don't think so. I genuinely feel so because I mean that's not what I base my partner.

SPEAKER_02 28:23

I mean, it can be true. Maybe your idea of a relationship works, you know, basically.

SPEAKER_01 28:26

I think relationship is should go beyond the sexual part of it. It should be more of partnership. And I think at the point where your partner in this, like a bit of break, you should be able to, like, you should be able to airbani uh or it can airband, you can float. Something that you know makes partnership, partnership. But in this one, what makes you relationship?

SPEAKER_02 28:45

What forms your your relationship? What's the base of your part? Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 28:48

What's the base of your relationship? Is it sex or of course it's not sex, but I mean of course sex to be had. So should you should your partner say they cannot go um like oh for one, like maybe they are working back to back in a month? And that's fine. Exactly because of course I would see it. Exactly. So um and maybe if this girl is seen that oh, it's work, maybe she'll even understand. Maybe she's not gonna be like, that's what I'm saying. Like, maybe she's just like they talk work, but you're not going to work up, but maybe you're working with the body.

SPEAKER_02 29:15

So beyond the physical, because what I'm hearing on both ends.

SPEAKER_01 29:17

No, for me it's intimacy.

SPEAKER_02 29:19

Again, that is still be that's still physical, beyond the tangible, which is sex, the things you can hold. What is like the basis of what are the cores that that the shape you can do?

SPEAKER_01 29:30

My own love language, quality time, you know, acts of service, by your chain, bio wreath, words of information. Wilson can stress you. Yes. What do you mean? He can date you. Exactly. Yeah, actually. If Wilson stresses me, he cannot date me. No, because I'm gonna bump pussies. Gonna bump what? I mean, it's not for me, um, it's not biceps. But let me funny thing. My first ever relationship was like for a year. We never had sex. Oh, it was virtual, right? No, it wasn't virtual. It was a virtual relationship. It wasn't, oh god, what do you mean? It wasn't virtual. We'll see one year. I swear to God, I'm never like I can actually, I'm sure the person would say I we never had sex. Oh. We never there was no form of penetration or anything. It was basically um. You were doing and wash. No, it was just like we're just like having a good time. Yeah, I think starting. Yes, yes. You know, things like that. No, wait, wait, wait. What is your definition of sex, by the way? It doesn't, it mustn't be penetrated. Exactly. It mustn't be penetration for your sex. I mean, you can maybe you want to see. That was graphic. Yeah. Very graphic. Anyway, so before we go before we let you go, we have this question that we we we took from um Olivia Dean's song. Um, this song that that she said, um, how would the how would it feel for you to um hurt your friend, let alone the one you love? So my our question to you now is which one is gonna hurt you more? Like hurting your friend or hurting your partner? Which one is gonna hurt you more?

SPEAKER_02 31:12

Well what I don't see myself having a partner in the near future. No, no, don't come but my friends are very important. Those are just picking your friends on this, then why didn't you pick friends? Well I think my friends are really very much important. I think uh partners can come a little and go. But my friends are anchors for a lifetime. Right. That's how I value my friendship. That's how I'm quite intentional. I'm I'm not the best friend. Right. Uh uh. I'm a work in progress though, but I'm very intentional. For those who have been close friends with me, I can tell. Though those who have been very close friends with me know that I'm very, very, very, very, very intentional with my relationships with especially I consider my friendships as my relationships that we each. That's cool.

SPEAKER_01 32:10

And that was my point I was trying. I say I was trying to be diplomatic. No. No, no. What Wilson's answer was was that oh, before I bec before I dated or before I'm in partnership with my partner, we were friends. So yeah. And I have to be friends with my partner too. Yeah, and that was the reason why meant to spray. So your partner is no longer your friend in that in this context. Your partner is your partner, and then your friends are your friends. So you say, Oh, my friend, my partner is uh still my friend. No, no, no. Let's separate both of them.

SPEAKER_02 32:36

I don't get partner, so I I could not be bothered with. I I don't even want one.

SPEAKER_01 32:41

Oh, anyways, another episode we'll talk about that. Oh my god, let us steam. Yes, let us team. So we are in the segment where we let us steam. Okay. We talk about like what is pissing us off. What is that thing that's annoying you like right now? In the world, in the world, maybe like you said, Canadian road is annoying you. Canadian show him off in the comments, but what is pissing me off right now?

SPEAKER_02 33:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:11

A lot. Pick one. We don't have the time, but I pick one. You wanna go ahead first? Uh nah. You're the whole sorry, you're our guest, so go first. Let's give I'm if you need to if you need to gather your thoughts. You say it's a lot, so just pick one.

SPEAKER_02 33:27

Nigerians are gonna be Nigerians are oh, Nigerians are SNER.

SPEAKER_01 33:31

Oh. Oh.

SPEAKER_02 33:32

Um what are they doing that are pissing you off? It's just everything. I think uh from the look of things, you guys deserve the government that's in Tunugu allegedly around. The entire system is built to strangle you. Wasted that chain, you're helping them tighten it. And you guys love your chains a lot. I I would say specifically Nigerians in Nigeria and certain not all Nigerians, but most Nigerians who you read certain things and you're like, damn. This one's in God's inner. Not from you, so they're gonna be. It's not, I mean, uh, foolish people are everywhere. I I I live in a country with a vast majority of uh but America's under the bus.

SPEAKER_01 34:25

You know, I was going through TikTok one day and I saw in Nigeria and in Ghanaian they're trying to like do their passport strength. And you would not believe the countries Nigeria cannot go to. I was I was shocked. Nigerians cannot go to Kenya without a visa. Kenya go to Kenya. You can't go to Thailand. But Ghanaians we go to or these top countries without a visa. You want to know something?

SPEAKER_02 34:51

You want to know something funny? I came across a post from the um from one of the US governmental, what's the name, free a few days ago. I mean, there's a whole ban on Nigeria with traveling and all that. But there was specifically a post targeting Ghanaians, you know, like come for the Western name, the world. Is it what do they have in Nigeria? Africa. One of the games was happening or whatever. Afghan, African match. And then to get visas. And I was like, damn, you're Nigerians, you have a long time.

SPEAKER_01 35:18

I was sure. Even Mauritius, you can't like Mauritius. No, without a visa. Yes. Are you sure? Yes. Maybe we'll just update. No, it's been like that. Really? Yes. Mauritius is one of the places. Like Nigerian government, what are you guys doing? Look at just neighboring countries. Nigeria has a government. Look at neighboring country, just go to the game. They have rulers. Not rulers. They have rulers, yeah. Monarchy. Dictatorship. Yeah. They have rulers, you know. That's very brazy. Who brazy and crazy? Brazy and crazy. No other Ghanians. Like, look at look at small Ghana. Don't I mean I wouldn't have big countries small.

SPEAKER_02 35:56

No, no, I'm not saying this.

SPEAKER_01 35:57

I'm just saying, look at neighboring countries. Yeah. The promotion that we saw. It's because of how the rulers, like you said, have placed us. No passport strength. That is even your fellow African country, you have to apply for a visa. That's brazy. Yeah, so so crazy and brazy. Um, so I think my letter of steam is um where's my camera?

unknown 36:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:20

Of course. Whenever she eats it with a camera, it's immigrants, whites, Indians, all of them. No, that's that's that's that's I I watched uh before you let yours off.

SPEAKER_02 36:30

I'd seen a what's the name of a recent episode where you talked about racism from Indians, and the idea of that still poofs my head. Right. Because I saw a video a few days ago of an Indian here in Toronto calling a black person the N-word. Oh, yeah, I saw it.

SPEAKER_01 36:43

It was like it was crazy. Not just him alone, him and the workers are Osmosis. Osmos. I'm not giving anybody. No, let's just call that brand out. Osmosis. Osmosis, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If you're enabling racism, ironing racists in in the Card War continent.

SPEAKER_02 37:04

But the idea from the idea of a brown person being racist. I mean, the idea of it is not if it's the idea of the concept of race hair that they have something that they can I would say prejudice. It's more prejudiced than anything. And y'all want to be white so bad.

SPEAKER_01 37:24

Oh no, you cannot. You cannot be white. You see, you see, there's these. I say you know, yeah, when they're looking to Europe, they see them say that coily hair. So chant and accentuate India. Very, very champ, blonde hair, white.

SPEAKER_02 37:38

I'm not coming after anybody, but if you live under you, if you if you operate from the chokehold of poverty. They said y'all are poor. Whiteness is not the standard. Okay? I'm sorry. They need to get into the sun to get their skin barred. I'm not throwing jabs at any. Have you seen this, Melanie? I'm not throwing jabs at anybody. I'm throwing jabs. No, that's anything I don't give a fuck. They kept me in slavery for years, so I'll throw the jab. If you as a brown person, an immigrant, a black person, and you're upholding the idea of white supremacy, be it in the things that you do, the things that you say, the way that you operate around the world and you look down on other people, you don't deserve oxygen.

SPEAKER_01 38:26

Period. You don't deserve to breathe. You don't you don't deserve to breathe. And that's on what? Period. Love it. Oh, it happened to you too? Oh shit. Was it a brown person? Oh, it's always them.

SPEAKER_02 38:40

So it's always them. I am not a violent person, but anyone who tries it with me, let this go and write. Jump on them. So when it happens, I'm a jump on you. I would arrange for those that would whoop your ass.

SPEAKER_01 38:53

So man. So A is whom I took out of it now. So forgive is not my job. Anyways, yeah, it's my own let's off steam. African parents, your children don't own you jack shit. They don't own you or they don't own you shit. They don't owe you jack shit. Whatever you give them is out of your responsibility. Whatever you get from them is a privilege. So whenever you whenever you open your mouth and say, oh no, you're supposed to give me. No, my best. I carried it for nine months. No, who make way? You carried me for nine months. You and your husband entered the bedroom. You enjoyed the sex and you brought me to this useless world. Are you expecting me to be grateful for that? I don't owe you jack shit. No useless world. I don't owe you shit. So when I give you something, go down on your knees and say, thank you, my son. Okay? Not out of my responsibilities. Not my responsibility, especially if you as a parent, you were not a parent growing up. You just were just on the sideline. And you just have the other. I like open your mouth and say you ended an entire family name. I saw a story on TikTok that pissed me off. Um, a mom telling her daughter that she's going to disown her for not um paying for her rent. I'm like, ma'am, fuck you. Go and live on the street. Your mates are on the street. Go and check the white people. Their mothers are on the streets. Because you, you are black, you think you're crazy and crazy. I was what I think I'm like. That's crazy. Um children they put their parents out of the trees. I love it. Put your mother out of the tree. I don't know why you, as a parent, you are not planning your life. You are only using your children as uh your insurance for your future. That's what it is. See, use thank God my mother has four children. Their children is a gratitude. Thank God my parents, they decide they know best to have four children because if I was the only child, you would sleep on the streets. Girl, I would just bring blanklett. Uh then do my code. Please. I mean, ah. Now I know why you don't want your child. No, but I mean, I could speak. Children are liability. You have to plan out the children.

SPEAKER_02 41:04

I know how they want the child now. I would say this. Um, as someone who, I mean, I could speak on the idea of parenting and all that.

SPEAKER_01 41:13

We have the episode coming up. Hold that thought. Hold that thought.

SPEAKER_02 41:16

But I would say that dear Nigerian parents.

SPEAKER_01 41:19

Dear African parents. It's their parents. Parents.

SPEAKER_02 41:22

This is your camera. Look it. Do better. Oof. Be better. Be better. Because your actions or inactions have children a greater impact. You think you're doing something for now, but the impact down the line, and then you come around and say you want children from these children.

SPEAKER_01 41:42

Don't worry. Let's unpack it. But yeah, y'all better just just do better. Do better. But my own is don't expect a jack shit, any jack shit from your parents. Save this. Save this. Will your parents keep money for me? Why do I have to be the one? It's your mates, no. Tyler Perry. Wait a minute. Save your back on that end. Dango Te. Dubai house. For adulter to get married. With Mr. Easy. Money is everything. I'm sorry, money's everything. Love is sweet, so when money is love is sweet.

SPEAKER_02 42:16

You guys are not.

SPEAKER_01 42:19

So with these few points of us, we have come to the end of this episode. Thank you so much, Russell, for coming and joining us today. Traveling all the way for the record.

SPEAKER_02 42:28

This is my first time on video.

SPEAKER_01 42:29

Oh, right. Oh, yeah. This is a comeback for him, actually. He's on about sabbatical leave. Sabatically.

SPEAKER_02 42:36

Coming back, but this is the first time. But it's a comeback video. I'm always behind the scenes. Alright. So this is my first time doing it. How do you feel? How do I feel?

SPEAKER_01 42:44

Let's hold your hands. Ah. I'll see. Moving on. Moving on. Anyways. So thank you guys for sticking with us. This is the end of the episode. This was good. Remember, if you have a dilemma, please, if you want to send it to us anonymously, you can use the link in and buy your Instagram at Kindly Unfiltered. If you want to send it to us for us to see, you can send it to Kindly UnfilteredwheelGeno.com or via our DM, not my DM, not his DM, but via our Instagram DM. What do you mean? No, it's it has to be, you cannot see it. You need to be raw and very intimate and very intentional reaction every time you see the dilemma. On that note, standing out still remains shade. In the words of Hollywood J, nigga. Don't use it. That man is cool. I said look. He's gonna do us. But anyways, cuckoo Bantuabah. I didn't say that.

SPEAKER_00 43:38

We will drive. We will save. Who are we gonna save? This is okay.