Transformative Neurotherapy Podcast

Rewiring OCD: How Neurotherapy Calms Obsessions And Restores Mental Flexibility

Dr. Heather Putney Episode 22

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How Does Neurotherapy Help With OCD?

Ever feel like your mind hits the same thought over and over, no matter how hard you try to let it go? We explore how neurotherapy helps a “locked-on” brain loosen its grip, reduce obsessive loops, and regain the ability to shift attention without getting swallowed by anxiety. Drawing on real clinical patterns and clear explanations, we walk through what OCD looks like in the brain and why training the cingulate cortex can change the day-to-day experience of obsessions and compulsions.

We start by demystifying OCD as an anxiety-driven cycle: intrusive thoughts trigger distress, rituals offer brief relief, and the brain learns to repeat the loop. Then we translate the science into plain language. Profiles often show a blend of excess slow and fast brainwaves, pointing to instability rather than a single speed problem. That’s why people feel both foggy and wired. By mapping these signals, we tailor stimulation to calm overactive regions and support underactive ones. The goal isn’t to erase thoughts—it’s to reduce their pull so you can choose what to do next.

From there, we show how alternating stimulation of the anterior and posterior cingulate builds the brain’s switching ability, much like strength training for attention. As flexibility returns, rituals shrink, triggers feel less explosive, and therapy tools like exposure and response prevention become more workable. We also address who tends to seek this care, why some hoarding profiles rarely present, and how one-third of addiction clients show an OCD-like pattern where compulsive use manages anxiety. Finally, we discuss timelines: younger, healthier brains often respond faster, while severe or metabolically taxed systems need longer, but severity is not destiny.

If you’re looking for noninvasive, science-backed care that complements therapy and respects your time, this conversation offers a clear roadmap. Subscribe for more evidence-informed strategies, share with someone who needs hope, and leave a review to help others find practical tools for OCD relief.

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Welcome to the Transformative Neurotherapy Podcast with your host, Dr. Heather Putney, founder and executive director of Transformative Neurotherapy. This is the place where healing happens faster. Because let's face it, your brain doesn't come with an owner's manual until now. Here we take a holistic approach to brain health, bringing together science, mind-body harmony, and the tools you need to optimize your well-being. Whether you're a high performer, executive, athlete, longevity hacker, or just someone tired of your brain working against you, Dr. Putney is here to help you unlock your full potential. From brain fog to chronic stress, we're covering it all. So you can finally experience brain health, mind harmony, and total well-being. Ready to get unstuck? Let's get started.

SPEAKER_01

When your brain gets stuck in a loop, the right tools can help it finally shift gears. Welcome everyone. I'm Julie Schwenzer, co-host and producer in the studio with Dr. Heather Putney, the founder and executive director of transformative neurotherapy. Dr. Heather, it's great to be back with you.

SPEAKER_02

Thank you. Great to be back.

SPEAKER_01

So let's jump right in. How does neurotherapy help with OCD?

Brain Patterns Behind Obsessions

Training The Cingulate To Switch

SPEAKER_02

It's a it's a great question. So, you know, with OCD, we it it's it's basically a subcategory of basically anxiety disorder in in so many ways. And it's and what happens is there's something that causes concern, worry, fear, anxiety for the, you know, for the person. And um and then they respond in certain in certain ways to try to help manage the anxiety. And in in some situations, um, what they do with the like the compulsive piece or some of the rituals they come up with may not look as connected to the to the anxiety, the thing that evokes the anxiety. And so for you know, outside people, that can seem very confusing. Um, and it can be really disturbing for the person as well because other people are judging them. So some of them can seem more bizarre than others. Uh, some can seem, you know, a little bit related to the cue. So you've got people that um maybe have um kind of obsessive fears uh around contamination, getting dirty. So that would be like the ritual be excessive hand washing and various things like that. And the problem with that is that the amount of time they spend doing the ritual in order to manage the anxiety ends up kind of in getting in the way of their life. You know, we wash our hands so many times you actually could have physical, you know, crack, bleeding, um, and and so forth. And um, and like I said, it's the amount of mental energy and time it takes to kind of do the ritual to kind of manage the anxiety, and then they'll have a whole nother cue and it kind of wash, rinse, repeat. And so it it can disturb the clients in in different ways. And it can be a little tricky to um to treat, both in, you know, uh from a psychotherapy uh component as well as in other ways. Neurotherapy uh has some really great results with that. One of the things that we see in the profiles of people that experience um experience obsessive compulsive disorder is a dysregulation kind of in the um in the frontal lobe, kind of here um in this area that near the anterior cingulate, which is kind of the emotional regulation uh center of the brain, but it it it's kind of like the brain gets locked on. I actually have a picture of what this looks like in one of my in one of my clients with OCD. And this is a pretty uh typical example of what we see where where this kind of hot spot, this red at the at the top of the head, showing some dysregulation in the in the anterior, you know, cingulate and so forth. And when we look at this little chart over here, what we like to see is kind of like a swoop down, a peak around 10 or so, and then kind of have it just kind of fade off. So what we see here is that we've got a little bit of excess slowing mixed with some excess fast wave going on. So we've got, you know, parts of it, uh parts of the brain running slower than we like to, and then some parts being like hyper-aroused. So we just got this kind of locked-on experience where the client has trouble shifting out of um, with this case, a lot of obsessive worries and so forth that kind of get in the way and create a lot of suffering because um when we get focused, when our brain gets kind of like locked in and focused on negative things or fearful things, the more we can, um, the bigger that feels in our life and the more we suffer. So what happens as we do neurotherapy, we can help regulate, you know, kind of like calm down sooth and like regulate the functioning of, you know, some of the areas in the frontal lobe, as well as the communication, the switching back and forth between the the frontal lobe and the posterior cingulate, which is another part of the brain that gets dysregulated frequently with with um uh with obsessive compulsive disorder. So we want the brain to kind of like be able to switch back and forth because these parts communicate, but in some situations they get locked on and it has trouble like shifting out of what I should be paying attention to and when it's important, if that makes sense. What's really helpful with these clients is like I said, we kind of work on some of the kind of flexibility in the brain. So we'll stimulate the, you know, the anterior singulate kind of in the front, and then we switch it and stimulate in the back and kind of go back and forth. So we're exercising that singulate, and basically it's like a switch to turn it on and off and on and off. So it's it can kind of respond more fluidly to the to the to the symptoms as well instead of getting kind of locked on in some ways. So and the other thing that we can do is kind of reduce some of that. Um, in this situation, this person's got a lot of excessive like over arousal. Some um the brain is driving too fast as the majority. So we can actually send some frequencies that kind of like counteract and calm down, you know, calm down the brain so that it can think a little bit more clearly as well.

SPEAKER_01

And when patients come in, are they mostly recommended to you by other providers or do they seek out this help themselves because they're exploring other options themselves? I was just curious because OCD is such a unique condition.

SPEAKER_02

A lot of times with this situation, uh, they're coming in because of the mental distress of the OCD, and maybe they've tried some different um treatments and things that they just they haven't gotten a lot of relief. And so they want to try a more holistic approach. And so a lot of times they will self-refer and um you know, to kind of have this new experience to, you know, to get on stuck because it OCD is um compared to some of the other mental health uh um conditions, this one could be a little bit more challenging one to treat and uh and to respond. So uh it could be a little bit more vexing for the for the clients than some of the other conditions.

SPEAKER_01

When it comes to neurotherapy, like when people come in that have addiction problems, you know, they they recognize that they have an issue and are seeking help. And OCD, is it trickier because it's it's a lot different than maybe like like you mentioned people who maybe are germophobic or have a hoarding issue, you know, something like that. Can they recognize that easier? Or does it I mean I'm just curious how it all works because the fact that they're coming to see you for help means that like you said, they they probably tried other things and they really do want to help themselves. So there was a point of recognition uh, you know, at some time.

Severity, Speed Of Response, Next Steps

SPEAKER_02

I I would say um the hoarders are less likely to come in because um I I I've experienced that um yeah, they they may be less aware or less willing to address some things they they don't feel as disturbed by what they're doing as um family members and other things, yeah, and other people. So I would say uh, and they tend to be more homebodies as well and more comfortable with that. So I would say that wouldn't be the majority of my clientele coming in, but other ones, um the other clients, they are bothered by how much time it take it's taking from their life or how much energy these obsessions or compulsions are um how much how much energy they're taking up in their lives. And so they will self-refer to come in and they are motivated. It's interesting that you mentioned addiction though, because um about one-third of the um addiction clients have a have more of an OCD profile. Um, and so the addiction may be like kind of like that hooper hyper focus. That's the that's the theme to kind of manage the anxiety. And it's it's a little different than the other forms of um some of the other profiles for addiction. So it that one actually can overlap with about a third of the clients with uh addiction. So it it may be that that ruminated uh obsessive piece revolves around the the addiction to manage uh anxiety or whatever it is that they are using the addiction to manage. So um, like I said, so that requires, you know, treatment for this piece in order to help them break free of addiction as well.

SPEAKER_01

Does it matter how severe the OCD is in terms of how they react with neurotherapy? Does it like if it's something that's truly like affecting their life and they can't, you know, they can't work, they can't take care of themselves in a healthy manner, you know, it's very extreme. Does it take longer for the neurotherapy to possibly make a difference, or does that not matter at all?

SPEAKER_02

You know, it it matters there's a couple of different factors that that matter. So some people are faster responders to neurotherapy based on how much energy they have in their brain, their overall health, their age, and other factors. So younger, healthier, good brain energy is more likely to respond faster to someone with maybe a metabolic condition, um, maybe a little bit older and so forth. So it's it's just it's kind of so intermingled with other factors, it's it's tough to say. But the level of severity, I mean, I guess the more the more dysregulated the brain is, it'll probably generally take more time to to write itself, if that makes sense with the with the treatment. But like I said, some of it depends on you know how uh how well the brain can absorb the treatments that make the shifts, and that that relies on some other like kind of health factors, age. So a little tough to say.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, this is really interesting. And we know OCD is a huge issue for so many people, so thank you for helping.

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Thank you.

SPEAKER_01

A lot of people do it in a way that doesn't involve medication or you know, other invasive options. So, Dr. Heather, thank you again for breaking that down so clearly. We always appreciate your insight, and we'll see you on the next podcast. Thank you. Have a great day. You too.

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You've been listening to the Transformative Neurotherapy Podcast with Dr. Heather Putney. Remember, your brain isn't supposed to hold you back, it's supposed to power you forward. So stop letting it crash your party and start letting it do its job. If you're ready to optimize brain health, sharpen your focus, and age like a fine wine, schedule your free consultation today at Transformative Neurotherapy.org. Or call us at 412-204-7397. Because here, healing happens faster. See you next time.